The central design doc is decades ago deprecated concept that was replaced by different tools that better do the job.
Like lots of small docs, game development wikis, whatever proprietary software was made specifically to track it.
>game dev wikis
Doesn't seem like anyone was using it. >attempting pilpul as if "design document" refers to a physical, thick folder filled with documents and pictures bound by a paperclip
even if you're circumsised, that just means you have brain damage, you're not israeli, your verbal IQ is too low, just stop embarrassing yourself.
Emil did nothing wrong. Todd and him have said time and tjme again that they write all this wonderful dialogue. But the majority of players skip dialogue to get the quest
Microsoft owns Bethesda and Obsidian. That's one of the biggest monkey-paws in gaming, since Obsidian's excuse for literally everything was a lack of funding.
depends on what you're planning to do
oblivion has it's ups and downs, if you're looking for a decent elder scrolls experience then yea, it is: daedric quests are great , thieves guild and DB are much better than skyrim and the shivering isles is kino. if you're looking for an extensive RPG with complex gameplay then no.
>onions slurping bong posts 2hr whine video about how people should stop bullying this guy for being lead writer on a shitty game >provides evidence.zip on how some reddittgay post seeded this hatred >bashes on random youtubers, including seething juvenile morons, idiots posting 8 hr videos, and shitbergs repeating the popular opinoin, calling them out for fanning the flames >turns into the very thing he's bashing by repeating the sin of cherrypicking clips to make people look bad >still has a good point that one shouldn't focus apeshit blame on one rando
help me Ganker i'm really conflicted on which bandwagon side to take here
how about realizing cdpr has like 20+ writers for their games and thinking one guy has enough power to doom a project is a bit silly
I personally got annoyed by things that werent related to writing at all. The writing team didnt make the game launch without dlss, fov sliders, or implement the shitty black levels, or make every room being full of redundant junk.
Don't take the bandwagon that simple. Starfield had bigger issues than just it's writing.
i mean yea the game is bad, i dont think anyone with half a brain disputes that at this point.
bethshit is full of outsourced garbage and broken shit left right and centre.
the question i have is whether good writing can still be found at bethshit, emil or otherwise, and save the shitty games they're putting out.
or as a more general question ... can good writing save any game at this point, or are we past that?
>i mean yea the game is bad, i dont think anyone with half a brain disputes that at this point.
Thats somewhat bandwagy take, if someone likes that fine. The game still has like 60k positive revs on steam.
Now the game suffers in that if you go online and discuss the individual elements compared to recent games like bg3 or cyberpunk its flaws get a bit obvious.
Bethesda can always course correct, try different approaches which are easier to make happen now that their game got criticized so heavily. It wouldnt be surprising if they made an expansion for starfield thats great
>game has horrible writing and design >see pic related in the credits
>No it's stupid to blame him!
Every game he has written and directed as sucked ass. All the hate he gets is deserved. No one cares about tech documents or other shit. He wants to be credited as the main writer and design director? Take the heat when your product is shit.
to my knowledge, he is the *only* writer credited. I don't think he's a good writer, but that just comes off weird to me no? sounds like they put one guy to take all the blame in case things go sour (which they did)
fwiw i agree no one cares about stupid tech documents, that was dumb shit that 8 hr video man harped on and whining bong man tried to refute
to my knowledge, he is the *only* writer credited. I don't think he's a good writer, but that just comes off weird to me no? sounds like they put one guy to take all the blame in case things go sour (which they did)
fwiw i agree no one cares about stupid tech documents, that was dumb shit that 8 hr video man harped on and whining bong man tried to refute
Fallout 4 and skyrim have a lot of good parts like the environment/map design and the combat overhauls that ID software did in fallout 4. it would be a much better game even with the consolisation if they got an actual director/designer to put coherence to all of their developer resources ala ken rolsten and a writer/quest designer that wasn't just interested in making 500 heinlein squash the bugs/generic raider enemy gauntlets
the Shen guy is a 5/10 writer who made the far habor and valentine quests and even a guy like him, the quality of his content is leagues above everything else which was mostly made by pagliarulo
the no central docs meme was thoroughly and embarrassingly debunked already so you can stop talking about emil
That just makes it worse though, they planned ahead and still fricked it up.
Debunked how? Emil himself says they don't need one.
The central design doc is decades ago deprecated concept that was replaced by different tools that better do the job.
Like lots of small docs, game development wikis, whatever proprietary software was made specifically to track it.
you kinda dodged the question there boss
>game dev wikis
Doesn't seem like anyone was using it.
>attempting pilpul as if "design document" refers to a physical, thick folder filled with documents and pictures bound by a paperclip
even if you're circumsised, that just means you have brain damage, you're not israeli, your verbal IQ is too low, just stop embarrassing yourself.
why is this guy so angry
is it because he made an 8h video based on a trash premise
Emil did nothing wrong. Todd and him have said time and tjme again that they write all this wonderful dialogue. But the majority of players skip dialogue to get the quest
Microsoft owns Bethesda and Obsidian. That's one of the biggest monkey-paws in gaming, since Obsidian's excuse for literally everything was a lack of funding.
This homie looks like a regular to Epstein's island
His looks really didn't help his case. It just made him seem like a used car dealer.
>blocks his path
Flute guy from the game awards got a job at bethesda?
Why do fatties wear makeup. Waste of time
After Starfield I went from wanting to instantly preorder TES VI to not wanting to preorder it at all
homie you shouldn't ever wanna preorder period
yeah go tell 12y olds in reddit that they'll find it super helpful advice
So he chooses to save Bethesda now after a 20 year prep. Is this how it's achieved, natty?
there's no saving it
If I were to buy and play Oblivion, right now, with zero mods, would I have a good time?
>zero mods
>would I have a good time
It's feasible but UI mods for every one of their games are mandatory.
Not unless you know how to build a character and how to level up efficiently(yes this is incredibly important).
youd think a pro game dev studio would figure out how to make a leveling system that wasnt terrible
depends on what you're planning to do
oblivion has it's ups and downs, if you're looking for a decent elder scrolls experience then yea, it is: daedric quests are great , thieves guild and DB are much better than skyrim and the shivering isles is kino. if you're looking for an extensive RPG with complex gameplay then no.
This c**t looks down on gamers while being utterly incapable of writing, frick him
He might be a shit writer but he's not the reason why Bethesda games are shit.
>onions slurping bong posts 2hr whine video about how people should stop bullying this guy for being lead writer on a shitty game
>provides evidence.zip on how some reddittgay post seeded this hatred
>bashes on random youtubers, including seething juvenile morons, idiots posting 8 hr videos, and shitbergs repeating the popular opinoin, calling them out for fanning the flames
>turns into the very thing he's bashing by repeating the sin of cherrypicking clips to make people look bad
>still has a good point that one shouldn't focus apeshit blame on one rando
help me Ganker i'm really conflicted on which bandwagon side to take here
how about realizing cdpr has like 20+ writers for their games and thinking one guy has enough power to doom a project is a bit silly
I personally got annoyed by things that werent related to writing at all. The writing team didnt make the game launch without dlss, fov sliders, or implement the shitty black levels, or make every room being full of redundant junk.
i mean yea the game is bad, i dont think anyone with half a brain disputes that at this point.
bethshit is full of outsourced garbage and broken shit left right and centre.
the question i have is whether good writing can still be found at bethshit, emil or otherwise, and save the shitty games they're putting out.
or as a more general question ... can good writing save any game at this point, or are we past that?
>i mean yea the game is bad, i dont think anyone with half a brain disputes that at this point.
Thats somewhat bandwagy take, if someone likes that fine. The game still has like 60k positive revs on steam.
Now the game suffers in that if you go online and discuss the individual elements compared to recent games like bg3 or cyberpunk its flaws get a bit obvious.
Bethesda can always course correct, try different approaches which are easier to make happen now that their game got criticized so heavily. It wouldnt be surprising if they made an expansion for starfield thats great
Don't take the bandwagon that simple. Starfield had bigger issues than just it's writing.
>game has horrible writing and design
>see pic related in the credits
>No it's stupid to blame him!
Every game he has written and directed as sucked ass. All the hate he gets is deserved. No one cares about tech documents or other shit. He wants to be credited as the main writer and design director? Take the heat when your product is shit.
to my knowledge, he is the *only* writer credited. I don't think he's a good writer, but that just comes off weird to me no? sounds like they put one guy to take all the blame in case things go sour (which they did)
fwiw i agree no one cares about stupid tech documents, that was dumb shit that 8 hr video man harped on and whining bong man tried to refute
Fallout 4 and skyrim have a lot of good parts like the environment/map design and the combat overhauls that ID software did in fallout 4. it would be a much better game even with the consolisation if they got an actual director/designer to put coherence to all of their developer resources ala ken rolsten and a writer/quest designer that wasn't just interested in making 500 heinlein squash the bugs/generic raider enemy gauntlets
the Shen guy is a 5/10 writer who made the far habor and valentine quests and even a guy like him, the quality of his content is leagues above everything else which was mostly made by pagliarulo