He's right you know. Only no lifers are able to have perfectly trained Pokémon without genning for VGC.
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He's right you know. Only no lifers are able to have perfectly trained Pokmon without genning for VGC.
>vgcucks when they have to play the games
>vgcucks admitting that the game isn't fun to play or worth the hassle at all
This would be the more correct statement
that's the reason I stopped playing the format.
Then stick to Showdown
No, I must spend thousands of dollars in order to compete for pennies.
This. A week in Japan + tickets to US/EU is easily over 2 grand, which you'd need to get 8th place to begin to break even. 8th place in fricking Worlds.
Now if people could actually say this.
But they won't, because they're too addicted to Pokemon.
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play the game the way you're supposed to or kys, nobody cares other than to laugh at you whiny b***hes
strict and rigid rule following even when it shows no benefits is an actual real sign od autism
and spending tons of money for a game you don't play and don't even know how to cheat it is a sign of moronation
>no benefits
i would say not being kicked out of a tournament youve spent thousands of dollars to attend qualifies as a benefit
The stupid cucks, maybe. The rest of us are going to continue to inject and continue not getting caught, as we have for over a decade.
Post your in game hours
When in reality it takes a couple of hours. People seem to be stuck in a mindset of gen 3. 100% this dude is sitting in front of his desk with the damage calculator open for hours a day too.
>b-but
Stop cheating
>When you're a VGvuck but you're contemplating divorce and quitting your job so you can raise a pikachu
LOL
Seriously though what kind of desperate nonsense is this? You can't just be your own strawman in an argument.
Just don't play VGC then you moron, you waste too much money flying around too. Pick up a more productive adult hobby
That's called a business expense
Businesses are supposed to be profitable.
You can only go so long losing money before the taxman says its not a business.
Being a competitive gamer isn't a business. You have to attach that to a related business to write it off. Having a shitty youtube channel doesn't count. You will raped in the ass by the irs for doing stuff like that.
>muh productivity
People do not exist to make money for people richer than them that they don't even know
Life is to be lived, not wasted slaving away for nothing.
>I live my life wasting money time and energy flying to japan and getting cucked out because I couldn't gen properly
doesn't sound very fulfilling of a life
It's not a waste if I'm having fun. I just want to play some fricking Pokemon with other players
>I just want to play some fricking Pokemon with other players
Yeah bro, prize money has nothing to do with it.
If you want to play some fricking pokemon, fricking play to build your team. Dexcut works in your favor, it narrows down the meta to about 20 realistic viable pokemon options (you don't even have to think what team to use or make a choice for yourself), you can get all of them in less than 24 gameplay hours and then some more for tera shards by changing the date on your switch. The games have been out for about 9 months and it's not like you can't reuse the Urshifu from last year. You can get a legal, perfectly built meta team in less than a week. Compare that to anything that requires actual skill, using your own head on team/deck building instead of copying the meta or investing on specific gear.
The only gatekeep vgc has against mongoloids is asking to spend some time playing the games and building your own team (as if it was some kind of monster raising game). So sad that you couldn't pass that bar.
You can still do that, just don't cheat in the process.
>competitive requires time commitment
Oh no
>b-but I don’t have the time
Then maybe they need to accept that VeeGeeCee just isn’t for them, its not a right, it’s not even a need.
And why are Xitter-gays unable to make an argument without bringing up hyperbolic non-examples
Time commitment should be used for practicing and coming up with strategies.
Seriously, how hard is that to understand for all the morons in this thread ?
just play the game lol
This. These entitled morons think they should be able to compete at the highest level of competition without sacrifice.
The funny part is that posts like this make it even more obvious that they don't play the games.
Of course they don't, all they play are ultra sweaty simulators.
Even funnier is they are making it obvious they DONT have a wife, kids and maybe not even a job. They are pathetic losers trying to act like they are too busy.
>Only no lifers are able to have perfectly trained Pokémon without genning for VGC.
I would describe people who don't have enough time to raise their Pokemon properly yet do have enough dedication to buy a plane ticket and hotel reservations to Worlds as "no-lifers", yes.
We're not "raising" anything. It's just grinding to make numbers go up
Still a thing no-lifers do.
If you don’t have the time to make a legitimate competitive team, maybe don’t compete in a World tournament filled with people who make that time. Compete recreationally, do locals, just play Showdown, etc.
These people are legitimately the most entitled buttholes I’ve ever seen in any competition. What a cancerous community.
People find the time to have all kinds of hobbies, even more time-consuming, expensive and life-threatening than a kids' game.
If you can't find time for it, then just play on Showdown on your free time, which is also better from a financial perspective.
Maybe it's time-consuming because it's meant for children and teens to work hard on it, not 30+ manchildren moaning because they can't get their competitive bundle of pixels as easily as clicking their mouse a few times.
If anti-cheat filters all those people, honestly I think it'd make actually passionate gamers a favor, especially younger ones.
... And besides all that, what exactly holds you back from trying whatever you want on Showdown and then only invest your in-game resources in what you concluded is/are the teams you find most fitting?
I don't care about VGC, I don't farm Raids (only engage in them sometimes) and I have enough in-game resources to build Pokémon for 7-Stars Tera Raids in a couple hours.
How do you expect to be taken seriously as a competitive player if you can't even do that much?
Resources are so easy to farm in Gen9, there's no excuse to whine over anti-cheating checks at this point.
Play the game, or leave VGC to players who are actually passionate enough about Pokémon to invest their time in that.
Showdown is not the same as going to tourneys
Then they could just play online in-game without going to Worlds and tournaments?
I don't understand the entitlement of wanting to get a free pass for cheating.
"It's hard" is not an excuse, the Olympics are also hard and time-consuming to train for, yet it doesn't make it alright for atheletes to dope.
1. Nintendo's online service is absolute shit
2. There's no humanity or sportsmanship in playing with someone you can't even see, you might as well play against a bot
There's no sportsmanship in cheating either dipshit
>Genns perfect IV pokemon
>talks about muh sportsmanship
Then the best option, if nothing else works, is very simple: don't play.
Only play for recreational purposes.
Meet up with friends.
Have meetups with other gamers who like competitive but don't have time for it, play together, have fun, then go back home.
Don't act entitled because a kids' game World Tournaments take too long or too much effort to prepare to legally.
I don't see any issue, if I can't do something with the time and resources I am allowed to have, I just don't do it, I don't act spoiled and entitled because I was caught cheating.
What friends? I can't find any. Majority of people nowadays have none, or at the very least, less than they did decades ago
There are no meetups where I live.
How is that their problem
Don't you have online friends who play competitive?
You can battle each other online and then maybe meet in person once every year.
Surely if you're all adults with your own life who can afford paying a plane and hotels to go to official tournaments, you can organize a playdate with a handful of online friends.
>Majority of people nowadays have none, or at the very least, less than they did decades ago
THAT is a cope. Holy frick, you friendless homosexual, just tie the noose.
Showdown has a vgc format so thats false. Although even if showdown didn’t exist calling people no lifers for telling you to play the game you supposedly enjoy is silly, especially when properly raising a pokemon is so trivial now
Its not the same as doing it in person with a bunch of people watching cameras on you people announcing shit about what you're doing /
>But they have a chat and sometimes stream it
Legit not the same without the human factor and element of socializing
You are not entitled to that.
Socializing is literally a human need for optimal health, both physical and mental. If your health isn't optimal, you can't live.
You can socialize without veegeecee though
You know what I was referring to.
VGC is a privilege, not a right.
Bro just build your team legitimately. Or stop playing Pokémon and pick up an activity at your local recreation center if you're so starved for human interaction. IDK how to explain to you that it is indeed possible to socialize with others without cheating in a video game tournament. If you cannot figure out a way to make friends that doesn't involve hacking a video game, I think you have bigger problems than entering a Pokémon tournament.
>spend thousands of dollars at once to socialize
I thought you Black folk had lives wtf?
That's a big factor in why so many people in the US are lonely though; there's nothing you can to do socialize that isn't ridiculously expensive unless it's with friends you've known your whole life; if you want to make new friends, or keep them, be prepared to go broke
The problem is that usually interests imply spending money. You probably won't find deep friendships just standing around in a bench or at a beach. Unless your hobbies are hiking, you'll probably have to spend money.
I was thinking about this myself but even most of what I like to do (drawing, cooking, vidyagames) usually you can't do socially without an implication of spending money. I guess if you already play an instrument or draw you could technically just walk up to other artists and participate in the same hobby without the implication of spending money. I'm a europoor though, so I don't know if planning those activities with others would also imply spending money.
NOU stupid D O U B L E N I G G E R
I'm just explaining why doing something digitally is not the fricking same as doing it in person with a shitload of people watching/talking about you.
Also holy shit it costs next to nothing to spend a week in Japan 2K is a really really nice week. If you wanna be cheap just spend your time in a comfy ass capsule hotel, they charge less if you rent for a week. 20$ a day on food is piss easy, booze is fricking cheap if you want to buy gut rot massive bottles of whisky for highballs srsly its dirt cheap you were able to get 5L bottles in the past for less than 40$.
I thought competitive Pokemon was just about the data and predictions??? Are you telling me there's more to the spirit of the competition than just what all these VGC players are claiming???
Any decision that BTFOs the soulless robotic demon types is a good decision. You cannot be too mean to them, because they literally have no soul.
BEEP BOOP SYSTEM ERROR BANNED FROM TOURNEY DOES NOT COMPUTE EXECUTE TOASTER IN BATHTUB
Except Nintendo knows how prevalent of an issue this is now so you can expect much more strict measures for vetting legit mons going forward. Get fricked robot. Learn to have fun playing the games and not treat everything as a math equation, autismo.
The DQ'd players got caught because they couldn't be fricked to engineers a legit home tracker ID, something that pkhex flags when you gen. If it wasn't for that, they would have passed the check like everyone else who supposedly had perfect Chien-Pao and Landorus at worlds
Nintendo gonna C&D pokehex and others, just like they did with 3DS hacking, thus making the whole process for tourney-mons even more tedious all becuase you worthless homosexuals can't just play the game the way you're meant to. Okay child, you will see. Clearly you do not know the history that Nintendo has with dealing with fraud. It's alright, you'll learn.
Pokehex is pretty nebulous, though. There might be issues with C&D it for that reason, but I'd be all onboard with it. Honestly. Can they hit Showdown while they're at it?
YES. HOLY SHIT IMAGINE THE SMOGON SEETHE IF THEY BANNED SHOWDOWN.
>implying the issue is that they got caught cheating, not that they were cheating in the first place
homosexual, you're part of the problem.
Honestly, half of me wants them to ban showdown because it promotes an unhealthy meta experience. The other half just wants to watch people throw tantrums online. They don't even have the legs to stand on that normal video game fans do when they get a fan game taken down. Showdown is literally just a Pokemon battle sim, just play the fricking game if you want to do that shit. It's not hard. I hate TPC and even I'd love to see TPC go for it and slap that shit into oblivion. I'd probably celebrate it.
>implying the issue is that they got caught cheating, not that they were cheating in the first place
Yes lol that is the issue. unless you're fricking egregious about it with genning errors or a team of 6 Shinies with 31IVs in all stats then you don't get caught genning, and you saved time that could be spent doing other things. Competitive players do not give a shit about "playing the game the right way" they play to win, and grinding for mints and bottlecaps doesn't increase their chances of doing that. Always been like this. Eleven years ago you'd probably be whining about how RNG Reporter cheats the experience of catching good legendaries
>cheating good
opinion discarded, filtered even
can't wait for the next gen to ramp up legitimacy checks and you to reeeeeeeeee at that as well
>catch shinies
>use bottle caps
>profit
Easiest way to kill the franchise
The franchise was there before hex and showdown and it'll be there after. If people leave because those two are struck down, then they weren't real fans from the start.
>Easiest way to kill the franchise
nah, that would have been bringing back the nat dex
no he dont even play the game legitimaly to say that, its easy to build a team now, UNLESS YOU FRICKING WANT 0 IVS, and guess what? CHEATERS DO EXACTLY THAT! You can manipulate time in the console to farm tera shards, not to mention Blissey raids RIGHT FRICKING NOW GIVE THOUSANDS OF SHARDS, FRICK THIS homosexualY
If you're gonna cheat, then cheat in tera shards. I don't think anyone cares about hacks really, everyone knows people have been hacking in VGC for years, but when you get sloppy with it and get caught, the correct response is to go "damn, I fricked up sorry" and then either stop cheating, or don't make it fricking obvious you're hacking next time.
It's easier than ever to build a comp team, these people wigging out and acting as if we're in the age where IVs were locked and you can't fricking trade over the internet just make them look ridiculous. People going like cheating is their fricking right are insane, I think it goes to show that people who take competitive Pokemon seriously have never once played any other game that has competition, they should be happy getting caught with hacks gets them only a DQ and not a permanent ban from competition.
>you can't fricking trade over the internet
How do you know if that trademon isn't genned?
BASED moron thinking I meant trading for fully completed hacked mons and not some shit like 31/0 IV dittos to blitz through breeding.
JUST CHEAT YOUR TEAM SO IT'S UNDETECTABLE HOW IS THAT A PROBLEM?
VGCplayers are quite literally moronic
Even fricking worse just hack in the tera shards if you can't spare the few hours jesus christ
you don't even need to modify the fricking pokemon
If you want to be the very best you'll have to work for it. How privileged are these people that they want to dedicate themselves to winning yet also want a normal daily life? Imagine real athletes thinking like that. This entitlement is why e-sports will forever be a joke.
>Only no lifers are able to have perfectly trained Pokémon without genning for VGC
And only no lifers should fricking BE at VGC.
My homie if you have enough money to go halfway across the planet you have the money to buy the games.
And I'm not being funny but for how many teams in VGC have 4-6 Mon that are EXACTLY THE FRICKING SAME I'm starting to believe the "the mon don't matter, the skill is in USING them" less and less. homies getting carried by fricking Nu-Misdreavus and Nu-Hariyama I remember when the asiatics game out swinging with a tanky Pachirisu and shit.
Said it before and I'll say it again: this is what happens when you excessively casualize. You create an entitled playerbase who feel entitled to participation.
We went from the days of buying Ruby, Fire Red, Colosseum/Gale of Darkness AND Emerald to have a respectable collection and taking pride in what you'd collected to "b-but I don't want to play this 20 hour RPG and use the easily streamlined process of training to make a good Mon for online..!!"
Whiny fricking diaper babies.
Maybe you shouldn't be playing competitive Pokémon then. I could use the same argument for trying to get into sports but using PEDs because I can't take enough time off to train.
Cheat if you can get away with it, but don't whine after getting caught.
It takes no time to do this, pokemon is a hobby. Once you have a team or two or three. Thats it you have it for the whole gen till a new game is out. You can trade shit with people you can X. Its not like this take hundreds of hours to do. Frick man its not gen 3 and you're trying to create the perfect fricking shinymons.
Imagine showing up the world championships of MTG with proxy/counterfeit cards and kicking screaming shitting your pants when you get called out for cheating. Or claiming you are a woman when you are a roided out dude and win first place at X womens evenr. Then go insane getting violent when people say you're a man and cheating. Or fricking any number of the things one can do to cheat at sports. Not even racing is as bad as pokemon when it comes to cheating.
Its a hobby it takes no time are you really so lazy or do not like the game that you have to cheat and scream like a israelite when called out for once again cheating at not only a "professional event" but the world series promoted by the fricking company WHICH IS PAYING WINNERS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY NO FRICKING SHIT THEY DONT WANT PEOPLE TO CHEAT WHEN OTHER PLAYERS ARE NOT CHEATING AND WOULD LOSE DUE TO CHEATERS AND SAID CHEATERS WINNING GETTING A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND OTHER FREE SHIT
These America cheating troony zoomers are so enraging its not even funny. Way to go making the west look fricking not only bad but beyond fricking lazy greedy and stupid.
>These America cheating troony zoomers are so enraging its not even funny. Way to go making the west look fricking not only bad but beyond fricking lazy greedy and stupid.
THIS.
The meta is constantly evolving. A few teams isn't enough, you have to constantly adapt to the meta.
This isn't pre-gen 5 on showdown dude. Its VGC and its nu-VGC on top of it. Don't make me laugh and this gen is so god fricking awful its not even funny. All these fricking digimon that are the top tier with powercreep to the max and the most broken&moronic fricking gimick.
Gamefreak needs to stop doing these stupid fricking ULTRA UBER GIGA MEGA MEGA POWAHUR~ shit every generation and instread focus on pokemon without giving them moronic power creep you know by being a game dev and thinking creatively. Divergent evolutions/speices and shit is cool but so poorly done. Just read some basic b***h shit darwin fricking wrote man is that so hard.
Frick man gen 10 better just have pokemon from 1-3 with up too 200 new mons no stupid fricking gimmicks transforming shit mon into 999 BTS with a complete movepool of 250-999 stab moves. Just add in new forms or if you're going to add a new fricking gimmick make it so third stage evos happen at lv 70+ give it a diffrent ability and move the stats around don't make it OP by adding a shitload more. STOP ADDING IN STUPID FRICKING SHIT FOR JAPANESE CHILDREN THAT EVERYONE HATES AND FINDS BEYOND FRICKING MENTALLY moronic.
Forgot to add in every gen 1-3mon is wtv regions form will be called make them super crazy about invasive spieces banning all non-native pokemon make it no more than 450 mons slowly add shit in but only for a battle island
Breeding ~20 pokemon (incl legendaries) is enough for the majority of the VGC gen. That's not a lot to ask. Over the course of the 3 years, the meta will change and DLCs will add new pokes that will make you probably add an extra 10 to that list. That's a total of 30 over 3 years, which can easily be respecd if needed, without having to breed more. I'm even overestimating because I've never seen 30 unique species across the top 10 teams. If you're interested in VGC as a hobby how hard is it to average creating less than one competitive pokemon per month for the 36 months a gen is out
Not only that, Home is free (one box) but it's enough to transfer comp ready mons.
>you can remember any move even tms you used on a mon
>you can change natures to any nature with a simple minor mint invesment
>you can endlessly host ditto raids for other people to join, tons of communities exist where you can join a ditto raid by simply ghosting in them its easier than ever to get a 5iv ditto if it wasn’t enough that you could already transfer all the old ones you had in previous games
>you can fricking buy bottlecaps for hyper training
>encounter power level 2 floods the landscape with whatever specific pokemon you need either to catch them or farm them for EVs
>tera raids shit out all sorts resources to help you with the formerly mentioned
>tera type changing takes roughly around 10 tera raids of the preferred type which you can easily search for after finishing your stock or just refresh your stock
But your fringe IV cases right? So you’re telling me you never found a 0 speed iv mon or a single mon with the fringe IV you need?
>b-but legendaries
The last bastion you have left, which is not also a fringe case but also something designed around you ensuring you catch the right one.
Sure I’ll agree that bottle caps should let you select the IV but that is by far an argument in favor of supporting the idea that genning should be allowed in competitions.
A few years ago with SM I bred a perfect IV team.
It only took a few weeks to make 3 full teams of perfect IV mons through breeding.
Bottlecaps makes that effort meaningless, as I just did it to have done it so I can say I've done it.
Even got a random shiny Gibble for my troubles.
>every other competitive sport requires hours and hours of training
>sacrifices must be made to train, in both the physical and digital forms of competition
>pokemon is magically immune to this somehow
I don't understand the logic with the people saying it takes too long. It has literally never been easier than right now. Mints, easier breeding, easier egg moves, hyper training at level 50. Would it be nice to have a 0 speed bottle cap? Sure, but I'm not a trick room cuck. The people whining about being caught are pathetic
The Pokémon "community" is a fricking laughingstock, genuinely overtaken Sonic autists.
this shit was way harder to during the DS/GBA era, they b***h now that it's easy to do?
you only need a couple hours to make 6 pokemons, after you're done testing on showdown
Stop cheating.
The last one is always the killer. No ammount of crying poverty or "respecting my time" can be taken seriously.
>How the frick did you fly to Japan for a week
Dumb question. They saved up for exactly that. These VGC players aren't just dropping this money out of nowhere, they prepare and put money aside for it.
Then it'd be pretty damn easy to budget $60 for the predictable November release every frickin year
yet they can't put aside money to buy the games.
>Can budgets thousands for trips to regionals, nationals, and worlds in Japan
>Can't budget 60 dollars for a pokemon that came out last year that they claim they need
If you aren't willing to spend $60 bucks for a game you know is necessary, then don't fricking travel to Worlds looking to compete. As a matter of fact, forget the $60. I'm willing to bet that you can find someone willing to give you or trade you a legendary from PLA, especially if you are well-known. All this debacle has shown is how lazy the players at worlds truly are.
>save up for entire year for vgc
>don't play games during that time
>gen team at last minute
>get caught
>cry on twitter
You forgot:
>call for protest, as if you actually matter
that's the funniest part, that they think they have any standing in this argument. I really hope they get perma DQ'd. Clearly they've learned nothing. Mybe they should have a strike system and this would be first strike, but genuinely eliminating these kinds from tourneys will only make things better. This is the dark side of autism, the fricking number crunching soulless robots that can't conceive of why people would think they're c**ts for hacking in pokemon. W-WHAT? I ACTUALLY HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME?! NO FAIR!
>Can save money for a trip to japan
>cannot do the same to buy second-hand switch games
So they can save up enough money to fly halfway across the world, but they can't save up money for a $60 game? I'm not saying that they're worth that much, but it's kinda contradictory.
The average price ticket from a place like German to Japan five+ months from now coast anywhere from 10-15x the amount for one game.
Dumb response. If they can save up for a ticket back and forth and a hotel room for a week, 70 extra bucks is just a drop in s bucket. That's like a day's worth of meals, since you are essentially going to have to eat out the whole time you are there.
Not to mention currency conversion fees
You don't even need to buy the other versions. Just enter a raid, homie get one friend to host one lobby mon you. You just need ONE friend with the other version, you're not doing a triathlon prep.
>But it's a legendary
You have to be 18 years old for the Adults division. Please use your legendary team in the Ultra Weenie Hut Junior division, it's behind the Weenie Hut stand with the kids playing teams of only Pikachu and Charizards.
>vgcucks when they have to play the games
>it takes time and dedication to play something competitively
who could have guessed?
God, I hate normalgays who think they could just be autists about things without the drawbacks.
Just play on showdown, and finalize your team on cart a week before the tournament starts
Stop cheating
It literally takes maybe 4-6 hours per pokemon minus some odd ball exceptions.
Hatch pokemon
Give it some candy.
Bottle cap it.
Give it a herb so it's the nature you want if it didn't hatch that way.
Use ability patch.
Use vitamins for EVs
This is literally the lazy way with no setup like iv dittos, destiny knot, everstone for nature etc. and if you have this stuff it won't take even 4 hours for one mon.
Egg moves which were arguably the most tedious part aside from getting 0ivs is even easy this gen.
Hatched Pokemon aren't, and since gen 6 haven't been, the problem. It's Legendaries/Pokemon that can't be bred.
Dude it takes me 30 minutes for a raid ready Pokémon, how tf are you taking 4 hours?
How the frick are you taking 6 hours? It takes me like 20 or 30 minutes to do this shit, Anon. I think this is a you problem.
Also, you don't need to hatch it, you can go out and just catch one of whatever the frick you want if you're going to Bottlecap it and Vitamin it anyway.
Again, these past few days have shown that supposed 'Pros' in the Pokemon community are a bunch of entitled babies. No shit you've gotta invest some time, otherwise, play some other fricking game. This attitude of "I should be able to compete at Worlds without lifting a finger" is fricking shocking.
it's literally so easy
>chest your team when you're still workshopping it because changing IVs, EVs, movesets, etc. potentially hundreds of times manually is asinine
>when you have your team finalized and ready for the tournament, make it with manual methods to avoid getting b&
im baffled VGCucks haven't thought of this before
>be me
>work 8 hours a day
>live with husband of 12 years
>play other games than pokémon
>have other hobbies than videogames
>still 3200 hours in Shield, 300 in Scarlet from training mons, shiny hunting, PvPing
I don't know, if you think you have to give up your life just to play a game you supposedly "enjoy" it's sounds like a skill issue
Plus I'm pretty sure they have easily 3 times the hours I spend playing these games on showdown.
A bunch of these whiners are content creators, how tf are these homies crying about not having the time when they're the ones who set their schedule? Stream your prep even, make it part of the hustle!
>hustle
>grifting on a webcam
>hustle
>telling loney people to give you all their money
>or telling children to steal mommy&daddies creddit card so you'll say they're name
>The HUSTLE
Srsly dude, but yes I do agree these grifters stream all day this shit takes no time to do which makes this shit even more inexcusable you stream pokemon 40 hours a week and you can't create a few mons that will last years
>BUT BUT BUT LE META CAN CHAGNE DAILY
This generation is full of busted digimon real pokemon have almost no chance to be used. Once again it takes no time to train shit this is not gen 3 if you're going to be a pro frick off don't cheat and fricking don't cry stomp your feet or worse ape out getting caugh cheating. Youre making the west look bad lazy stupid greedy ignorant etc pieces of shit subhuman garbage frick I hate zoomers man you people are more lazy and entitled than boomers are its honeslt amazing
I make comp ready pokemon because my autism demands it, and I still have plenty of time for it even though I work 40 hours a week.
Oh no, wait...they're wagies, aren't they? They're mad because Shekelstein wants them on call 80 hours a week including weekends lol
Farming Tera shards is a pain in the ass and actually changing the type is too expensive but everything else is piss easy
homosexual. It takes all of 10~20min. Do you not know how to reshuffle dens?
Damn bro it’s almost as if the whole point of competition is to reward people who do make those sacrifices to become the best at the game.
These arguments from cheating VGCtards has to be some of the most pathetic I’ve ever seen.
>one single round of ace tourney gives you 200k dosh with amulet coin and happy hour
>takes 10 minutes
>two of them give you enough money to turn any fricking pokemon you have into competive ready
20 fricking minutes, that's how long it takes TWENTY FRICKING MINUTES
but nonbonononno i need that double 0 iv pokemon with sub 1% usage hurr durr
now grind for those tera shards 🙂
Literally part of the game. If you don't like it, don't play the game and don't compete.
If you can't find the time, you don't deserve to compete. This isn't hard. Just don't cheat. If you have to be an adult, be an adult instead. Don't cheat so you can play a children's game competitively. Competing in Pokemon Tourneys isn't a right, and cheating was against the rules the entire time. Just play the game if you want to compete. This shit isn't hard, these people are just acting entitled to shit they don't deserve.
If grinding for money is too hard, get a controller with a rapid fire functionality and challenge the tournament. Then you just buy yourself some vitamins for your max ATK/SPD glass cannon.
Running through the desert and picking up any shiny spots is a good way to make cash, too. That place is filled with sell items.
Japanese players did it without cheating and Japanese people supposedly have less free time than westerners
ITT: autistic homosexuals that cheated and justified it get smacked the frick down by big dick daddy nintendo and throw adult twmper tantrums.
WAAAAAAAAAAA ME NO HAVE TIME TO AKSHUALLY PLAY THE GAME JUST GIVE EVERYTHING TO ME WITH NO EFFORT BECUZ IK GEN Z AND ITA MY WAY OR NO WAY!!!!
I've been waiting so long for them to start cracking down on you worthless cheating homosexuals and God does this feel so good watching you all whine like the b***hes you are because you have actually put effort into the game to get results. Sorry not sorry, that's the way it should have been to begin with and losing cancerous piece of shit l I ke you isn't a loss at all. You pissbabies getting DQ'd only makes life better for everyone else. Bout damn time. Get fricked you autistic homos
>farming tera raids
10 or so raids to get the 50 you need.... That's less than 30min.
>IVs
Oh look. You have 4 bottlecaps and 3m₱ from those raids you did.
>breeding for shiny
You don't need the shiny. That's vanity.
>breeding for IVs
Not needed, it's just going above and beyond. Unless you're doing a 0IV speed thing. (They should have rusted bottle caps in the DLC, for real.)
And even then, only takes a few hours.
Because you don't need that mon to be shiny.
>breeding for nature
Not even needed anymore thanks to mints.
>EVs
You don't even need BP for getting the EV weights anymore. It takes less than an hour to fully train something.
And thanks to forced Exp Share, you can do all your team at once. (Stats willing.)
So it takes like.... A day. For a whole team.
Wow. Such a terrible hill to climb... Really need to cheat cause it's so hard.
Do pokemon players really think their game is that grindy to play at the high level?
It really isn’t that bad, hell if everyone did it legit we would probably see more unique teams instead of all these legendaries.
>b-but zero speed IV
can be bred for and if its a legendary soft reset or don't use it
>b-but tera raids too long
part of the game, deal with it or if you had any brains you would have duped the items needed in 1.0
>NOOOOOO I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME NOW I HAVE TO FILE FOR DIVORCE!!! SAVE ME DONALD TRUMP!!!!
Just stop cheating.
I don't give a shit. I will lagh hard as hell if you are caught with poorly edited pkhex pokemon in a game for children. If you don't want that then grind or hack them correctly next time, homosexual
Do tcg players cry this much when they get told they can’t use proxies?
It’s funny that the second comp players say the games are boring and not fun to play /vp/ becomes the biggest simp for their archaic and tedious mechanics.
Maybe they should stop playng this boring children game then. It would be great
BRO HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BALANCE LIFE AND MY JOB???
40 HOURS A FRICKING WEEK I MAY AS WELL QUIT SCHOOL, DIVORCE MY WIFE, AND KILL MY DOGGO!!!!!
>I don't have time to commit to my hobby!
Then get a new hobby you fricking wiener sucking moron
It's that simple
You're not entitled to an ability to build a competitive team
The only thing you can't do today
>0 IVs instantly
>manipulating specific number IV or EV spreads
>no option to change balls
Honestly why morons just don't hack a 0iv speed ditto? With an item in the first egg you can have it and then just use bottle caps.
0IVs are more for legendaries, I think that it will be a feature for future gens.
>EV spreads
Sure you can. Underbuy the amount of vitamins you need, then increment the rest with feathers. Or EV train against like two wild Pokemon to get the EVs you're missing.
Outside of Unova you cannot farm feathers as easily as the vitamins.
Literally bike around lake Casseroy and you get 30-40 feathers
Also do auctions, you get lumps of them or vitamins in bulk sale
On that note doing these event raids will give you a bunch of vitamins too
Imagine a TCG compgay being told that he can't use printouts of his deck and he b***hes on Twatter/X because he doesn't want to spend hundreds on the real thing.
Unironically based. Frick pay to win. Imagine if you had to assemble your own set of chess pieces by paying for random pieces separately, with some being rarer than others.
Does chess involve prep work like calculating EV spreads and customizing movesets? No, because we arent playing Chess, we're playing Pokemon.
I was talking about the TCG, though. In general, tournaments shouldn't be decided through who owns what, but rather, the players should be able to build any team/deck they want at the venue, with the skill involved in teambuilding on the fly being what decides the battles rather than their luck buying booster packs/breeding before the tournament.
I dont know how I feel about the tcg in that regard except for saying its pretty bullshit just buying the new set that dropped and having the upper hand at a tournament if you got great pulls minutes before registration closes.
That said if we as video game players are going to be drip fed more pokemon we can transfer over through updates either it will be a bonus applicable to those who have the previous games or can trade for those, or make no difference and not be allowed at tournament level, which at that point makes me question what the point would be for letting them be transferred over to begin with.
No, Anon, that's different! Because...it...it...it just IS okay??
doesnt the hack check just check pokemon?
like if you wanted to cheat just cheat items? SV has so many QoL items that just make comp pokemon in like 5 seconds
What have people been using to inject items? I feel like I'm behind on that stuff.
Pkhex
Although transferring shit to a legit Switch is tedious
>complaining about the tedium of hacking specifically to get past the time commitment of normal teambuilding
Good luck transferring x999 Ability Patches and x999 Tera shards
you don't need all that to make a team
instead of transfering the items you could trade the pokemon use the items and then trade back
What makes it tedious? Now I'm curious.
>Pkhex x999 stuff on your hacked Switch
>you can only trade one item a time to a legit Switch
Just go to /wfg/ and ask for shit
>In the future when/where you got items and pokemon will be tied to trainer info and if traded they'll be able to check there too
Can't wait
Too much coding work for a small indie studio like Gamefreak.
Given how injecting works in the first place, you could edit the information fairly easily. It would be a big of a rigamarole to get it working though. The trade thing is arguably impossible to implement on Game Freak's end, though.
>Always online Pokemon
Oh boy! This is where these cheating frickers are leading us. I hope they're happy.
STOPPPPPPPPP FRICKIIIIIING
CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEATING
I wonder how fast the next gen console will be moddable. I'm not even sure if you can homebrew newer switches
>Want to play championships for a game about raising and bonding monsters
>”Don’t have time” to play the game as intended
>Want all the rewards and benefits that come with playing the game as intended
There’s no-one less deserving of titles and money for playing the games than these fricking absolute homosexuals. If you don’t have time to play the games you don’t deserve to get the glory of having played them.
can't take the heat? then get out of the kitchen. simple as
The absolute fricking state of this board, any day of the week genners would openly mock every last self righteous anon in this thread defending the days worth of hours they spent breeding, grinding, etc. and yet the second some gays on twitter cry about it the fence is jumped.
It's literally a numbers game at the end of the day if every single thing about the mon down to the last stat is legal who fricking cares how it was obtained. I personally train shit ingame because I'm too lazy to learn the process or hack my shit, doesn't mean I need to police everyone who does it the quick way.
Anyone in this thread calling it cheating is an insecure dipshit who needs to validate their time by demeaning others for not wanting to waste theirs.
If you're solely on the "it's cheating" team currently because it makes some whiny homosexuals mad and that amuses you then congrats you're the only based homies in this conversation
You sound like a homosexual zoomer troon, shut the frick up
You morons just can't understand that your insecurity with playing a fricking videogame doesn't matter, "cheating" doesn't matter, it's an rng heavy game of stats and optimizing it to the best of our limits doesn't need to be done "officially" the end results would not have changed.
The need to jump through hoops at every objection is what makes you homosexuals look pathetic.
BASED
>Insecurity
I’m not the one hurling walls of text at people who won’t read them homosexual. PkHex is against the rules. Coping and seething won’t change that.
Anyone complaining about time is moronic and disingenuous. Building a VGC worthy team takes like a week of sporadic playing at best, it’s not the GBA days anymore. I’m a grown man with a full time job and have shinies and team builds from just playing casually, so do my normie friends. All your block of text did was prove you want to justify cheating.
Why you care about twitter homosexuals? They were caught with pkhex shit. I will laugh at them and there is nothing they can do about it
I don’t think this freak has to worry about wives and families anytime soon
>You sound like a homosexual zoomer troon, shut the frick up
>triggered by true words
No wonder you guys dont like being called cheaters, kek
This, because there is no 5-minutes way to put 0 speed on Cresselia. Simple as.
I WILL cheat.
It does not take an entire year to make a team of 6 Pokemon in this game even if you only play on weekends
they refuse to spend even a minute actually building teams.
You'd think, realistically with how long these people have been playing Pokemon they'd have boxes of legit competition ready Pokemon. With how long the genies have been in the meta and all the opportunities to catch them multiple times over the years that they could have copies for every build or situation they want. It's insane seeing just how little VGC players actually play the game.
Pkhex has a built-in legality checker since forever jesus frick. You only have yourself to blame if you submit invalid code. Don't start whining on the 0 ivs, most of these morons just wanted them shiny
Why does the cheat detector only work on western players?
It's illegal to gen mons in Japan so Japanese players won't do it unless they want to go to jail
Because Japanese player literally can’t cheat
If you have to cheat at a game to win tournaments for said game, then you just shouldn't be playing the game.
Outside of Gen 5, Pokemon doesn't add that many shitters anymore
Gen 6 and 7 were the absolute worst and none of the Pokemon there are meta that stuck around
Sword and Shit + Scarlet and Violet are decent Pokemon games and had modern mechanics too that don't require too much to build a competitive team
If you're a professional you only need B2W2, PLA, either one of Sword/Shit and Scarlet/Violet
If you need more legendaries just pick either one of OR/AS since US/UM has that meme portal race mechanic that autists may not want to play
yes, or better yet don't be a grown man playing a children's game competitively.
All this tells me is that pokemon fans don't actually like playing the games. So why are y'all still here?
meanwhile your average tcg tourneygay will spend thousands of dollarydoos in building their tournament decks which they will have multiple in case shit hits the fan plus other fully built lesser decks because the meta changes monthly
the prize shekels won't even recoup all of their yearly card purchases even if they win top 1
the current runner up who shat himself with a heavy gardevoir setup played with a $80-$90 deck, that's like 2-3 times less than what your average tournament deck cost
You can literally tera raid grind in the bsckground while watching tv, listening to a podcast, or whatever. Blissey events make shards so fricking easy to acquire.
Imagine if the next console is somehow unhackable
>wants to compete at a competitive level
>doesn't want to put in the work to be competitive
Imagine if some sport had a huge cheating scandal and one of the guys that got caught made a post like this. They would forever be a laughing stalk. I guess playing a toddler's game competitively already makes these people laughing stalks so they don't mind.
It literally takes one afternoon/play session to do enough raids to get money or materials to make a team of 6. Money to change natures, bottle caps, held items. Catch raid Pokémon at level 75 and finish leveling them in seconds. Scarlet and Violet hand hold so hard to get an online viable mons, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO BREED FOR EGG MOVES. These guys aren't your regular breed of online cheaters, they're just lazy cheaters motherfrickers. And controlling IV for 0 is an extremely autistic niche.
I'm surprised there's no market for people straight up just selling competitive ready legal Pokemon.
Is that not a thing? Or it can't be done because players don't have access to the cheating tools so buying mons would be pointless cause there's no way to know if they're not genned?
I imagine the latter is the case.
I don't give a shit about playing actual competitive and never have in my entire life, and I made a legit competitive-ready Toxapex from scratch in a single afternoon on Pokémon Sword. Competitive players who use this excuse are a fricking joke. Clearly they can't cope with having to put any effort into anything in life.
Breedcucks get mad at genningchads for the same reason why Nintendies get mad at emulatorchads. They feel personally robbed or scammed and instead of blaming authority (who they think is their friend), they blame the people who are smart and bypass unjust rules.
>the people who are smart
Not sure that's the target here considering how easily they were caught
i dont play modern pokemon anymore cause the games are shit but if people are still genning because your game is just a stupid time waste/grind then the game is the issue. simple as. both corp dick suckers itt and people playing vgc are ultra gays who take it up the ass. both of them are mentally ill manchildren whining about everything they dislike. vgc cucks should play actual adult strategy games and robot dick suckers should get their micro penis kicked in even further by corps. morons.
If people are just going to shit out premade pokemon then gamefreak might as well cut out breeding and egg groups.
>i dont play modern pokemon anymore cause the games are shit but if people are still genning because your game is just a stupid time waste/grind then the game is the issue.
No, this time it's definitely on the players. It's ridiculously easy to get competitive pokemon nowadays especially given that vitamins no longer have a 100 point cap.
They're only genning now because that's what they're used to.
b***h if you have the money and time to leave work and go to Japan for a fricking children's video game tournament then you have the time to raise legal Pokemon.
Your opinion is less than worthless. 日本においては、決して不正行為を許すことはございません。There is no amount of protesting or crybaby nonsense that will ever let you get your way.
This isn't casual fun, this is a hardcore competition. Go play Pokémon Snap if you want to just chill and be a casual like millions already are. もし貴殿が最も優れた存在となりたいと望むのであれば、他の競技者を凌駕する優越を主張したいと願うのであれば、赤ん坊のように泣くのではなく。Other players don't care about your meaningless life. Follow the rules or get off the stage. There are plenty of people that can play Pokémon without excuses.
卓越を追求せよ。規則を厳格に従え。言い訳を顧みるな。緩やかなる関与を超え、激しい競いを優先せよ。Or at the very least, keep your mouth shut.
>that Google Translate Japanese
I wonder what the 5ch reactions are, Japanese people have some of the best bants.
If they have time to complain about it maybe they should have spent an extra 5 minutes making sure their Pokemon were tagged for the correct Region.
>I want to compete in sports but I don't want to spend months training
>What do you mean I lost because everyone else actually trained their bodies?
>but my body after doping is in the same state as their body after one year of training, what do you mean I can’t participate in competition? It literally doesn’t matter we’re the same don’t you get it
>enter tournament with dumb rule you don't agree with
>lie and sign a contract that says you won't break the dumb rule
>if you break the rule you can't enter the competition
>break the rule
>b***h on twitter that you got banned and how dumb the rule is
Sounds like the dumb rule was the issue, then.
>dumb rule is the problem
>its against the law to break that rule in the country hosting the tournament
These gays are lucky they didnt walk out in cuffs. Hell the only "penalty" was earning the same ammount of money statistically as they would have earned if they competed(nothing).
Sounds like the dumb law is the problem. Just ignore it.
then don't enter vgc? there's other pokemon competitions without a dumb rule like "us only OUR pokemon". entering under the terms and not following is fraudulent but also allowing them to exist, b***hing on twitter will not save you from the terms you agreed too and then failed to follow through on.
>we are oppressors, and if you don't want to be oppressed, oppress yourself before we find you
No.
>ahhhhh! I aimply must enter this tournament that has rules I dont intend to follow!
>ahhhhh! I simply must make rules for this tournament that people don't want to follow!
Sounds like a (you) problem
Is this bait? I follow the rules and havent been banned from a single tournament.
There was one event where the format for teamsheet entry somehow fricked up and deleted my Urshifu's Detect and I had to play with only 3 moves, but that's a problem between me and Limitless more than anything else
Did you get your money stolen for saying Black person Black person Black person and were banned in a game by any chance?
These players should lawyer up and sue, so they can double down on their losses and look even stupider.
>host a draft format tcg game
>someone just uses a premade deck
>dq them
>cry that it's too much work to open packs and trade, it should have been a normal tournament
>Caring about tourneyshit
Competitive is cringe, hacks or none.
>staff gets replaced by honorabu Nipponese instead of lowly paid wagies who didn't have a shift at Walmart that day
>hackers get caught red handed and DQ'd
KWAB
It's not about moral principles. Cheating in games is actually ilegal in Japan. I'm pretty sure the Worlds employees there were mandated to check for hacks.
Either way, making a hack indistinguishable from the real thing is easy.