>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007
cope, seethe and dilate
>who said it was bad
I always thought it was a meme, like some games are often recommended just to frick with people, it was funny to me because it's a movie tie in game, for a movie that wasn't even so popular, with an unnecessarily long and dumb name, so I just decided to download an iso just to have a laugh (I often play bad games on purpose) and imagine my surprise when I was genuinely enjoying it
The movie is what happens when a fanboy is given infinite budget to geek out. Sometimes the executives do actually know what they're doing when they're meddling with the creator's vision.
The movie is so fricking long every time I tried to watch it I got bored and quit before they even get to the island
Reminder that it came out right after LotR and nobody minded 3 hours. Besides, if you got filtered with exposition to a decent movie, that's on you. From the top of my head, Waterworld drags like shit for most of the time, but is still a super-energetic action flick as a whole
The movie is what happens when a fanboy is given infinite budget to geek out. Sometimes the executives do actually know what they're doing when they're meddling with the creator's vision.
Except in this case they didn't and the result is easily the best Kong movie since the original, both on technical side and actual movie itself. Issues started when they did, and we got Hobbit "trilogy" out of it
Dunno, I had loads of fun with it when watching it in cinema and then re-watching it few years later in TV. For contrast, didn't even learn there was any game until '10 or so. And it's a one fricking solid game.
Every Hollywood movie WISHES to be like that. '05 Kong made enough splash for people to seriously entertain the possibility that Jack Black could be playing serious dramatic roles (which he can, but that's not the point here)
It was just another movie that was advertised everywhere then quickly forgotten about like the Narnia movie, the Willy Wonka movie or the Series of Unfortunate events movie that came out around the same time. Every Hollywood movie makes a huge splash then disappears just because they are advertised like crazy until they move on to the next movie.
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Anonymous
>t. too young to remember how it actually was, just projecting modern situation
Friendly reminder that Avatar came out in the tail end of 2009, and not earlier
It was a cool passion project no doubt but it had virtually no staying power, I've never seen it brought up post 2010.
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Anonymous
It's like you are missing the point on purpose. It's not about staying power (which I openly stated myself that it had none), but about the fact there is a huge difference between "movie is a big deal for a while, no matter how short-lived" and "movie is made"
One of the best movie games ever and it was one of those early Xbox 360 games with easy achievements that meant you could rent a game and get an easy 1000GP. All the achievements were worth 100GP or more and were tied to story progression only.
Peter Jackson also worked on the most kino DVD release of the original 1933 King Kong ever, and it came with this very long documentary about the making of King Kong that included Weta recreating the Lost Spider Pit Sequence using all the available information and only period effects.
PDF now please. I've been searching fricking everywhere for this book since I love the creature designs and finding a scanned copy is seemingly impossible.
You tell me. I've been searching for it since late 00s, when it was more or less still accessible, considering back then pricetag below 100 bucks to be "too much". Now it's four times that much. It's really fricking weird nobody scanned it or nobody tried to cash on it during Ultra HD release
IIRC there are 2 versions of the PC copy. The original which is closer to the xbox version and a newer one which is complete dogshit and for some reason uses gamecube assets.
Or just emulate the Gamecube version
>Gamecube
Isn't that the worst version of this game barring the second PC release?
On the Xbox 360 at my older cousins house, this was the first seventh gen game I ever saw. It seemed good looking but not good in any other way. I can't imagine it looked much worse in PS2.
Out of curiosity I looked up the 360 version vs the prior gen version. It seems like one of those cases where you have a better lighting engine, higher res models and higher res textures but it still manages to look worse.
pretty good example of the devs not knowing how to make the most of the hardware. same issue with the PS2 when it first released. 2007 was the 360s launch year and it had pretty unique hardware compared to its predecessors.
I don't think that's whats going on here. To me it looks like the 3d modeller dropped the ball when creating Ann's face rather than any technical issue. The one on the left clearly has a way higher polycount so they created an entirely new model and probably didn't put as much effort into it as the original.
I remember this was a big deal not just for Jackson, but for Michel Ancel directing it, and he was a bit of a game critic's darling at the time. Rayman was one of the few respected post 16bit era platform mascots, and Beyond Good and Evil got a lot of praise.
movie tie in games really feel so quaint now, that a medium or higher budget game could be made based solely on a theatrical release, impossible nowadays.
Tie-ins are still around, just on much smaller scale and spectrum. And it's telling when the last "big" one was in 2015. Otherwise, they are relegated to mobile game trash, because they are cheap to make and last for about as long as the fad itself.
One thing I miss about tie-in games is how you'd often get devs who were fans of the property using the license to do their ideal game with elements from the source material not in the movie, or doing a nostalgia homage in general. so in a Spider-man movie game you'd fight all these villains never in the movie, or get references to other characters. Transformers games would have G1 references. Superman Returns was a respectable but ill-fated attempt at making the developer's dream Superman game, and so on.
The 07 Ninja turtles GBA game is a success story in that regard. The GBA was barely alive in 2007 so they had like no faith in this game in all likelihood, but its a better Konami TMNT game than even the Konami GBA games themselves. 15 years later the developers got to revisit the property in shredder's revenge
As far as fanboism goes, nothing comes close to Butcher Bay.They went from "ok, we will call this guy Roland Bigdick and pretend this is not a Riddick game" to being an official tie-in with Diesel getting involved for free (and for his ego trip, ofc)
it's also not retro
>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007
cope, seethe and dilate
Because it's one of the better games of its year
I guess that leaves me with the only counter to your combo: ywnbaw
uh kabalo bros.... did we get too wienery
CAVALLO NO!
who said it was bad, it's usually called one of the best movie tie-in games
>who said it was bad
I always thought it was a meme, like some games are often recommended just to frick with people, it was funny to me because it's a movie tie in game, for a movie that wasn't even so popular, with an unnecessarily long and dumb name, so I just decided to download an iso just to have a laugh (I often play bad games on purpose) and imagine my surprise when I was genuinely enjoying it
The movie is disappointing compared to the game.
The movie is so fricking long every time I tried to watch it I got bored and quit before they even get to the island
The movie is what happens when a fanboy is given infinite budget to geek out. Sometimes the executives do actually know what they're doing when they're meddling with the creator's vision.
I guess but the game was also ran by Peter Jackson and it came out fantastic
Reminder that it came out right after LotR and nobody minded 3 hours. Besides, if you got filtered with exposition to a decent movie, that's on you. From the top of my head, Waterworld drags like shit for most of the time, but is still a super-energetic action flick as a whole
Except in this case they didn't and the result is easily the best Kong movie since the original, both on technical side and actual movie itself. Issues started when they did, and we got Hobbit "trilogy" out of it
Yeah but compared to the game it's clearly inferior by a large margin.
Dunno, I had loads of fun with it when watching it in cinema and then re-watching it few years later in TV. For contrast, didn't even learn there was any game until '10 or so. And it's a one fricking solid game.
>for a movie that wasn't even so popular,
You must've not been around back then. I will grant you its popularity dropped FAST, but in 2005/06 it was a fairly big deal.
That's basically every Hollywood movie though.
Every Hollywood movie WISHES to be like that. '05 Kong made enough splash for people to seriously entertain the possibility that Jack Black could be playing serious dramatic roles (which he can, but that's not the point here)
It was just another movie that was advertised everywhere then quickly forgotten about like the Narnia movie, the Willy Wonka movie or the Series of Unfortunate events movie that came out around the same time. Every Hollywood movie makes a huge splash then disappears just because they are advertised like crazy until they move on to the next movie.
>t. too young to remember how it actually was, just projecting modern situation
Friendly reminder that Avatar came out in the tail end of 2009, and not earlier
It was a cool passion project no doubt but it had virtually no staying power, I've never seen it brought up post 2010.
It's like you are missing the point on purpose. It's not about staying power (which I openly stated myself that it had none), but about the fact there is a huge difference between "movie is a big deal for a while, no matter how short-lived" and "movie is made"
There were a lot of decent movie tie-in games that gen.
Fun fact: Peter Jackson himself actually was on the team making this game. He even irritated the devs by strong arming his vision.
KK was generally an interesting multimedia project. The World of Kong: A Natural History of Skull Island was a really damn good art book.
Is it scanned anywhere? I can't find it and it's listed for $400 used. Google books has a preview so there has to be a scanned version.
One of the best movie games ever and it was one of those early Xbox 360 games with easy achievements that meant you could rent a game and get an easy 1000GP. All the achievements were worth 100GP or more and were tied to story progression only.
Peter Jackson also worked on the most kino DVD release of the original 1933 King Kong ever, and it came with this very long documentary about the making of King Kong that included Weta recreating the Lost Spider Pit Sequence using all the available information and only period effects.
Of course forgot to add the file
PDF now please. I've been searching fricking everywhere for this book since I love the creature designs and finding a scanned copy is seemingly impossible.
You tell me. I've been searching for it since late 00s, when it was more or less still accessible, considering back then pricetag below 100 bucks to be "too much". Now it's four times that much. It's really fricking weird nobody scanned it or nobody tried to cash on it during Ultra HD release
No shit, it was well known back then that this game was surprisingly decent.
Just be careful when playing the PC version because it contains DRM which can brick your PC
And the DS version is shockingly bad
There's the WIFI_Darth_Maul repack for the original PC version or you could get the Gamer's Edition.
Or just emulate the Gamecube version
IIRC there are 2 versions of the PC copy. The original which is closer to the xbox version and a newer one which is complete dogshit and for some reason uses gamecube assets.
>Gamecube
Isn't that the worst version of this game barring the second PC release?
>for some reason uses gamecube assets.
Actually it's based on the Xbox 360 version
>DRM which can brick your PC
what the frick, never heard of it
how does that even work
Nta, but it doesn't. As in - using original release is a great way to frick up your system, unless you are on XP legacy hardware.
Consult
for contrast. Part of the reason Kong wasn't in sale for ages was its using StarForce, and that's just bullshit security.
*it's just that bullshit
Brain cloud is no joke
Movie games from the 6th gen are good in general
it is impressive how cinematic it managed to be in the sixth gen, more so than even movie game in the 8th.
On the Xbox 360 at my older cousins house, this was the first seventh gen game I ever saw. It seemed good looking but not good in any other way. I can't imagine it looked much worse in PS2.
Out of curiosity I looked up the 360 version vs the prior gen version. It seems like one of those cases where you have a better lighting engine, higher res models and higher res textures but it still manages to look worse.
pretty good example of the devs not knowing how to make the most of the hardware. same issue with the PS2 when it first released. 2007 was the 360s launch year and it had pretty unique hardware compared to its predecessors.
pic unrelated
I don't think that's whats going on here. To me it looks like the 3d modeller dropped the ball when creating Ann's face rather than any technical issue. The one on the left clearly has a way higher polycount so they created an entirely new model and probably didn't put as much effort into it as the original.
360 came out in 2005 moron
Not that bad? It's a great fricking game, a rare example of a good movie game
Best played with KBM, obviously
I remember this was a big deal not just for Jackson, but for Michel Ancel directing it, and he was a bit of a game critic's darling at the time. Rayman was one of the few respected post 16bit era platform mascots, and Beyond Good and Evil got a lot of praise.
I wonder what he's up to now that he left Ubisoft
He's working on BG&E2 since '18. Pretty much nobody at this point expects delivery.
Prior to that he did Rayman Origins and Legends
>Cinematic FPS with realistic visuals
In what way is this retro? PS1 should be the hard limit on "retro" games
>Cinematic
>PS1 should be the hard limit
Doesn't the PS1 have MGS? Pretty sure that has way more cinematic cutscnees than this game.
I remember this game; I played the shit out of it. Film based games used to be pretty good.
movie tie in games really feel so quaint now, that a medium or higher budget game could be made based solely on a theatrical release, impossible nowadays.
Tie-ins are still around, just on much smaller scale and spectrum. And it's telling when the last "big" one was in 2015. Otherwise, they are relegated to mobile game trash, because they are cheap to make and last for about as long as the fad itself.
One thing I miss about tie-in games is how you'd often get devs who were fans of the property using the license to do their ideal game with elements from the source material not in the movie, or doing a nostalgia homage in general. so in a Spider-man movie game you'd fight all these villains never in the movie, or get references to other characters. Transformers games would have G1 references. Superman Returns was a respectable but ill-fated attempt at making the developer's dream Superman game, and so on.
The 07 Ninja turtles GBA game is a success story in that regard. The GBA was barely alive in 2007 so they had like no faith in this game in all likelihood, but its a better Konami TMNT game than even the Konami GBA games themselves. 15 years later the developers got to revisit the property in shredder's revenge
As far as fanboism goes, nothing comes close to Butcher Bay.They went from "ok, we will call this guy Roland Bigdick and pretend this is not a Riddick game" to being an official tie-in with Diesel getting involved for free (and for his ego trip, ofc)