Is this the fastest vidya disappearance of all time? Not even on twitter are people still talking about this game, let alone does anyone still seem to play or stream it. What gives?
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>Inferior gameplay compared to previous games
>Baffling CG cutscenes
>Shit story
They can't even do outrage marketing for it now that Assassin's Creed game sucked the air out of everything.
Their marketing campaign was squarely aimed at youtube "pc master race" types. They were denied a bigger budget by Gearbox, so some quack pushed a little campaign hoping to "positively weaponize the elitist toxicity of the RTS community" to drive engagement and thus advertise the game. Unfortunately the toxic rts elitists think the game fricking sucks lol.
BBI will be closed by September.
I can easily point to streaming number to say the marketing strategy reached tens of thousands of viewers. It's really BBI's fault for the game not impressing all those viewers and driving sales.
Or Gearbox's fault for not putting HW3 on Xbox Game Pass.
I know why.
This relationship was a nightmare, I'm happy it's over now
that signatures Pert+ sleek and shine
>open up some random "let's play" to check out the gameplay
>skip to a random point
>it's a clip of this chick whining about her emotions in the middle of a mission
>all the other character in the scene can reply with is "what?"
All it took was 10 seconds and I already knew this game was going to be shit. If it cares so little about that part of the aesthetic of homeworld then it's going to care equally little about everything else. And I see I have been validated in this assumption. See, this is the great thing about heuristics. I don't need a fricking big-ass detailed review. I just need a couple of seconds, and I already know. I already know everything else is going ot be shit based on them alone.
I just wish heuristics functioned better in a positive capacity. Its uncanny how well it works for knowing if I won't like something or if it will objectively be bad though. I could tell what a stinker Starfield was going to be by just 30 seconds of that initial combat reveal with the square shotgun chambers.
Are there financial instruments like puts where you can bet against video game successes? I'd be so fricking rich predicting every single major flop especially in these last 5 years.
The uniform scale goes hard
what the frick
Who is the target audience for this?
Buyers of the first two games. You, and people like you, just don't understand. They make games for fans but not to appeal to fans, just to spit on them.
Purpled haired women who don't play video games, comics, or table top games but every thing most pander to them bigot.
The israeli ubisoft writer who's married to a gearbox exec and was put in charge of the studio halfway through development (as a writer still) while firing all the original devs
She even forced them to model the main protagonist after her
hold up hold up hold up...This isn't true right? minus the israelite part.
it is lol
I'm sorry, what I meant was, can you Black folk give me at least 1 source so I know I am not interacting with mental illness please?
>Shadman
I don't get the reference.
ban this newbie
miss the man of shade threads like u wouldn't believe
>shadma'am
what episode of star wars the clone wars is this?
>Talking in moronic mind palace or something
>Grows to equal height to the giant nig
>"Hmh, clever girl."
WHAT IS SO CLEVER ABOUT THAT?!
This shit looks like one of those weird deviant art-tier fetish animations
I hate women so god damn much
Where's her giant futa wiener?
What even is the context
what the frick did they do to homeworld??????
and I bet this shit cost more to make than the 2d cutscenes from the older games
hm
made my day
I dont get it 🙁
What is the story of Homeworld about?
Recovering from a major LOSS
explain like I'm a redditor pls
moronic namegay as usual.
you don't know what a namegay is you fricking moron
okay explain then
Sage doesn't work since years ago.
Feel free to test it if you don't believe me
I tested it. It works (it goes in the options field if you are not based enough to use all of them)
never gets old
>this joke continues to live on
I'm at a loss for words.
it was always niche
it going full woke just destroyed any chances of it making some profit
that is why big franchises always start out as none woke and onyl to then slowly die when they get woke
What do you mean? Every niche game always has some genuine discussion around it post release, no matter how small. A dozen people discussing challenging parts of the campaign or interesting aspects of the story, at least. Even the tiniest niche games stick around for at least a couple of weeks.
But HW3 has nothing. Zero. Absolute radio silence. As if it had been scrubbed from existence. What is going on?
It was mid
Plain and simple
thank you anon.
HW became niche when Relic>Blackbird threw a hissy over Cataclysm being more-original and having better gameplay than HW1. HW2 was the sequel we didn't want.
I suppose Deserts of Kharak was the prequel we did want; but it should have been better (making buyers pay extra for the lore manual was buttfricking stupid).
HW3 was the opportunity to revive the franchise and they blew it. Because they ran out of ideas in the first game, and can't paper over it with a jumped-up fan game like Kharak was.
>HW2
I will never agree with people who say HW2 wasn't a good sequel.
Never go full ESG.
>it affected a franchise *I* care about now!
>so I will react exactly how right wing chuds told me to react even though I'm apolitical and hate chuds!
why do gamers do this
>why do people pick candidates with chances of winning instead of who they want to win.
I don't support Trump, but God as my witness I'm voting for that man
You're a genuine moron if you think Trump getting elected is going to get us out of the mess we're in. He's a useful idiot tool for the corporate 1% frickwits that want us to keep fighting each other.
Yeah dude, this is better. Vote for this again you fricking tool.
I will because even if he sucks, he's not cheeseburger Putin.
?
then its all window dressing and it doesn't really matter who is or isn't president
Therefore I will vote for the candidate with greater meme potential
Then you should vote for RFK Jr. to really stick it to the system.
>RFK Jr.
Definition of controlled opposition. Elites saw Trump supported getting vaccinated so tossed in someone who didn't to eat at those votes.
>He's a useful idiot tool for the corporate 1% frickwits that want us to keep fighting each other.
You can use the word israelites here
same thing but im voting for biden and live in PA
Whenever I see a roastie as a community manager I wonder if they ever even played the game whose forums they're moderating. Or if she sees all the players in it as "toxic men" she has to corral.
They're hired on the latter premises.
>western should not be the default for the term rpg
It's ironic how they can't see things with another perspective other than their own. She assumes English is the way truth is encoded and can't probably fathom that in Japanese, the term "RPG" means "Japanese RPG" by default and they probably have a special term to refer to Western RPGs (probably something derogatory).
These people are a classic example of accusations being admissions. In a cultural/social context these people are complete imperialistic chauvinist colonizers. They walk into a room and assume every person in that room has the same opinions as them and agrees with everything they believe, I mean why wouldn't they? Its called just being a decent fricking human being.
So if somebody doesn't, well thats going to need to be rectified.
Damn. Well put.
I dunno, the lady in charge of the Rebel Galaxy Outlaw discord was nice and ran the place pretty well. I was sad when she stepped down.
RGO as a game was... ehh, Freelancer with a slightly better story (remember that Freelancer's story itself wasn't as good as WC Privateer). But the community was fine.
The answer is almost always no. There's a rare few companies that force their CM's to play the game on livestreams (warframe comes to mind).
The rest just ban people on forums for going against the narrative.
I aint reading all that
The TLDR version
A picture truly is worth a thousand REEEEEs.
As soon as I saw this I knew KSP 2 was going to be a dumpster fire
You can be sure the only one in that image who does any work at all is the guy in the middle who looks like all the blood and vitality has been sucked out of him.
A man out of fuel.
Stuck between the Moon and Mars.
A cruel irony.
More like stuck between Jupiter and Saturn
Spending your life in a dusty museum storage room sounds comfy
community managers don't matter, the only question is who bothers to free up budget for them
Good community managers pay for themselves via twitch streaming and youtube content. The fans get to feel as if the company is listening. All you need to do is hire a CM that doesn't immediately insult the entire playerbase. The last part is what they keep getting stuck on.
why hire a community manager in the first place?
The only community a game-dev should manage is the one inside the game.
You don't need a person to talk to random users on twitter.
You don't even need to pay people to manage subreddits and discord.
Involving community in development is a meme, you might as well ask journos to direct your game.
Promoting the game and events isn't even the job of a community manager.
>why hire a community manager in the first place?
Because devs should be developing video games and not handling their community. If there was ever a case for that it's Bioware's Social Network forum where devs spent more time chatting than actually developing games. Of course, your CMs should not be unprofessional Reddit and Discord mods.
another cautionary-tale is Hello Games back when No Man's Sky was being promoted. Sean Murray promised a lot of shit he was hoping to get into the game but Sony forced the unfinished mess into Gold status.
If some flak had got in front of Murray and delivered the hype, we'd not have heard the promises.Or at least not as many.
>make a living as a professional Final Fantasy XIV player
the frick?
>procedural damage
... what?
There is very little.
homeworld gays deserve it
You chuds KILLED it!!
Hope youre proud of urselves buttholes, so many developers will lose THEIR JOBS because of you
Oh, definitely.
There was nothing to ruin. Homeworld 2 was already shit. Only the original and Cataclysm were any good.
Sad thing is, this was the original vision lmao. Only tech limitations and Sierra writers saving the plot made HW1 and Cata good. HW2 was a disaster because devs started to go off the reservation with their "visions"
Only the original, you mean. Cataclysm was infected by the "let's copy Starcraft" disease that ruined every 1999/2000 RTS and added pig farms and excessive micro.
>Cataclysm has excessive micro compared to HW1
Cataclysm was more about story than gameplay. Just like homeworld 3 is. Except story of cataclysm is really really good.
>Except story of cataclysm is really really good.
>A minorly edited still frame with a voice over enters the room and btfos your entire team of CGI artists and writers
How do you respond without sounding mad?
Now imagine the cost difference between the two lmao
Not only did the original homeworld/cataclysm teams do it for less, they did it better.
You can bet your fricking ass those HW3 cutscenes cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, with an entire team of CGI artists, writers, producers, ad nauseum working on them for months, while the HW:Catacylsm one is 3 dudes having fun and did it in a single weekend.
>cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions
>cutscenes look worse than animations in some fricking weg
HOW THE FRICK
>A still drawn image, some voiceover work done by the devs themselves maybe btfos a big budget CGI suck fest
Actually preferred Cataclysm. Instead of a vast fleet, you're just a compact strike force. Every ship feels more precious to the cause, as opposed to mass building a swarm to throw at the enemy.
homeworld 2 was great gameplay wise, story was eh, still not as bad as this tho
savage but truth
I watched it so now everyone else has to.
There is some weird satanic shit about giant female faces like this
I LOLED
Fricking hell, games have never been so shit they are now.
Corporate and femoids ruined this industry
Jesus Christ that animation is jarring, like a Pixar movie from the mid 2000's or something.
Mid 2000s Pixar was on top of their game. That's a step below early 2000s Dreamworks, more like.
Pixar was never so bad.
SAVAGE
Another franchise down the shitter, nothing to see here, folks.
>Let's make a homeworld game that isn't like homeworld
hmm
Bro, like 3 people played the original Homeworld games for longer than 20 minutes.
We like to pretend Homeworld is some cool and fun game but it's really quite tedious.
It's funny, back around 2012, people on Ganker made jokes about Homeworld by Gearbox being something with Skrillex and Borderlands humor. We did not know how bad things would become.
>This was one of the posts that tried to predict what a Gearbox HW would be like
Yo 100 years ago uh sattelite detected an object under da sands o' da Great Desert. An expedition wuz sent.
<WUBBING INTENSIFIES>
An ancient starship, buried in da sand.
<wub Wub WUb WUB WUB WUB>
Deep inside da ruin, wuz uh single stone dat would change da course o' our history forever. On da stone wuz etched uh galactic map, an' uh single werd mo' ancient than da clans themselves.
<WUBBLE WUB WUB WUB WUBBLE WUBBLE WUB WUB WUB>
Hiigara.
<PAUSE>
Our home , wOrd!
<BASS DROP, SKREEEEE WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB SKREEEEE BOOP BEEP BOOP BEEP>
Even if it existed like that people will say it's ass today as Borderlands humor ages like milk
I was just thinking that there was a severe lack of Homeworld 3 threads. I guess the AssCreed Shadows thing has stolen the spotlight.
But yes, the summary of what they've done is the South Park meme of putting a chick in it and making it lame and gay. What a shame. I guess everyone can go back to Homeworld 2 and have fun with their mods.
>I was just thinking that there was a severe lack of Homeworld 3 threads. I guess the AssCreed Shadows thing has stolen the spotlight.
The last three I saw were literally deleted for some reason.
Mods have been deleting threads about it.
what'd you post anon?
I think I see the issue. You pointed a finger at the wife of a writer. That can be construed as targeted harassment, regardless of how correct you are about how she shat up the story. You've got to be a bit more subtle when calling the writers moronic c**ts these days.
Not that it matters at all. It seems they're enforcing a "if you don't have anything nice to say, you're banned" policy currently.
kids these days don't even know their own history.
I've seen people getting permabanned left and right for just mentioning Sweet Baby Inc.
Of course they would, it's a buzzword with no substantial proven relationship to the game being discussed.
You shouldn't need to reach for SBI to raise a stink anyway, it has enough problems.
>[SBI]'s a buzzword with no substantial proven relationship...
Let me guess *crystal ball* 38 or 39 year old white man with a bachelor's degree with "studies" on at least one major, some kind of office job probably in legal, and you heckin' love science
ah yes
the Sweet Baby Inc Detector really touched a nerve with them, didn't it?
It's like exposing a vampire to sunlight. I suspect the various groups that compose the DEI industry don't like people knowing about them and are making a push to strangle any and all discussion of them and destroy anyone who makes an effort to point them out to the customers. Could cost these groups and the companies they're parasitically attached to a lot of money if customers had some kind of warning before they bought a DEI infested turd, wouldn't it?
>hwb2.png
That's fricking grim. Is any of this actually true?
Fricking savage
Where was it mentioned that Cunningham had his wife approving the script?
Lindsey Joyce is the Managing Director of Narrative Properties for Gearbox Entertainment, married to Steve Gibson the President of Gearbox Publishing
>marrying someone with danger hair that pronounced
But why?
Education: University of Texas Austin
Take one God damned guess.
>Austin
Shithole fricking city. Half the women are like Joyce, the other half are LA Instagram "life influencer" bimbo bossqueen badbitches. I fricking hate it here man.
muh keep it weird hippie and cowboy fusion LEL.
If Russia nuked that city I would literally thank them.
It's not even necessarily about humanity, because until the nu-homeworld games, we never saw anyone's face. It was only ever implied that everyone is human, but even that was wishy washy with how many competing racial factions there were in the setting and what the implications would be for 100k's of years genetic selection and isolation for these respective factions.
Making everyone human feels like the first chip to the foundation of the lore that would eventually collapse and destroy the entire series.
>Making everyone human feels like the first chip to the foundation of the lore that would eventually collapse and destroy the entire series.
bullshit
Oh you think so?
Imagine if they had kept everyone faceless, would you have got
?
As soon as they began directly humanizing everything, it wedged the door open for the DEI racism bullshit to barge in years later and destroy the setting. Even making s'jet a woman was a wedge piece that has now culminated in this
; though I'm sure if they had never ever made the races human in Homeworld, we likely would still have seen this happen.
In any case, the focus back then was on an entire race of people and their struggles, not the achievements of individuals. The more it became about an individual's accomplishments, the more it slid towards modern cape-quip and ideological iconoclasm because it became a useful propaganda tool for screaming in the gamer's ear how awful white men are and how great women and shitskins are.
it didn't invite anything, they forced it
stop blaming good story writing of the past because someone destroyed it later
It was never even about individual characters. The only named character was Karan S'jet, who was like one paragraph in the game manual backstory, and one line in the end cinematic.
>temp ban for a few days
Boo hoo
You can actually cry when you get a 200 year ban.
/v/misc/ before 2018:
>greeks
>white
pick one
/v/misc/ after 2018:
>this is greek erasure
just say you don't like Black folk
stfu Black person
sneed the game
>mandy abandons HW3 to play garten of banban 7
>has a better time playing the latter
Oh no no nonono
abandons HW3 to play garten of banban 7
source?
I'll just replay 1 or 2. Make better games.
Get warned your game is shit and nothing like even the game from 1999. Fricking 1999. Hire our of college zoomer morons to develop it and not tons of talented autistim mod developers that want 100% accuracy and actually have a vision.
Ignore the feedback, ignore the fans.
Hired DEI morons to write a story about a woman exploring herself and not you know the war.
Game fails exactly like all the other DEI moronic "nuRemakes" aka sequels such as AoE 4, Coh 3, Dow 3 and so on.
Shocked pikatchu
No one's left. Everything's gone.
o7
Like the Kushans we must find a new space franchise to call home...
Kind of poetic ending to this game series if you think about it.
They already took away the credits song of HW1, there was no redemption for queerbox after that.
They actually used this song in the campaign in the scene where they find and free the protagonist's grandmother. They used Adagio for Strings as a "hopeful and pretty" song.
They have not even watched a let's play of the previous games.
We are in the video game dark ages with cargo cult germanic tribe devs larping as ancient romans desperately trying to emulate their ways with the meagre leftover knowledge they dug up
Should have never trusted Gearbox not to frick this up somehow. i don't care if the fault lies with BBI, Gearbox let this happen.
It's pretty safe to just blame everything on Gearbox.
As soon as gearbox gets their hands on anything, they destroy it. I honestly don't understand how they're still in business. Probably the single worst publisher in the entire industry right now. Signing on with gearbox is basically a death sentence for your studio and they don't even have the money of EA, Activision, or Microsoft so at the end of the day you aren't even rich, you just sold out your IP for literal peanuts and then got to watch it be eviscerated and destroyed in front of you.
I wonder, if you asked the original BBI team if they wanted to sign on with Gearbox to work on Homeworld again, if they'd have taken up that offer instead of sticking to doing their own thing, completely indie, as their own studio? I would bet they would've turned Gearbox down.
>I honestly don't understand how they're still in business
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embracer_Group#Subsidiaries
>Probably the single worst publisher in the entire industry right now.
If Ubisoft didn't exist I'd fully agree with you. I don't know how they keep getting away with this shit. They fricking destroyed Risk of Rain, the old drama with Aliens: Colonial Marines, Borderlands being absolute dogshit since... forever.
>Borderlands being absolute dogshit since... forever.
BL was fine until BL2's DLCs, that's when the humor got REALLY fricking obnoxious and unfunny.
I can't think of a single good thing Gearbox has ever did in its entire existence
>single good thing Gearbox has ever did
Blue Shift / Opposing force waay back in the day.
>Homeworld 3
Huh?
Have i been living in a cave?
just ignore it exists, better for your mental health
I seriously had no idea HW3 was even a thing.
There was that one spinoff that takes place on the planet but never heard of actual HW3 till this thread.
Marketing wasn't really pushed either.
They either banked on nostalgia and word of mouth or they knew they had a turd in their hands.
HW3's marketing was the responsibility of Embracer Group since Gearbox was still owned by them while HW3 was in development. Nobody at the studio or Gearbox is responsible for it. Since the sale from Embracer to Gearbox happened in the months before launch there was no way for HW3 to even get a marketing budget since Embracer wouldn't market a product they didn't own and Gearbox didn't have the funds to do it themselves. They relied on word of mouth and streamers to do the job and it worked really well.
There's also a sins of a solar empire 2 in early access on EGS, where it's been for over a year.
But no one knows about that one either because EGS also does zero marketing.
No, Sins 2 has launched on EGS. Stardock brought it out of EA a few weeks ago, and they're going for a fully-budgeted Steam launch in August since the game is feature-complete.
Yes.
Stay there, it isn't worth it.
>Is this the fastest vidya disappearance of all time?
good, frick that game and frick that hack Ron Gilbert.
Why does it look like LeChuck is going to sexually harass Elaine and then an AppleTalk voice is going to ask me how Guybrush should handle the situation?
>disappearance
I don't think it ever appeared in the first place.
it peaked at 9k, the site must have been down to not pick that up
The worst part is it peaked on a Monday and the weekend is basically invisible in that chart.
Unironically mods will fix it.
Played the demo and the controls and UI felt really bad, which was kind of surprising to me since I really had no such issues in HW1, 2 or Cataclysm. The UI bothered me especially. I likely would have been fine dealing with this but then I saw that extraordinarily terrible cutscene and how it utterly ruined the atmosphere and feeling that the previous HW games had and I just couldn't be fricking bothered anymore.
It's fun to laugh, but then you realise that we were deprived of even a competent new Homeworld game by these overpaid hack-frauds.
When they first showed off the railgun frigate for backers and it was wobbling while charging its gun, I knew it was going to be bad. The ship design really didn't look like anything from Homeworld up to that point, the wobbling looked silly, and I didn't understand why they needed a railgun frigate when we already had ion frigates. It was clear that whoever was working on the game, from that one model, wasn't interested in maintaining the legacy but using the name as a license for their own sci-fi story.
That's what pisses me off about the Wheel of Time tv series. Not only is it awful, but it precludes us from getting a good one.
Between HW2 and 3, I'm starting to think HW1 was just an accident. They always wanted to do something like HW2 and 3, they were just reigned in by various imitations.
Maybe *current year* changed the skin complexion of some characters, but substantially I'm not convinced it changed much. I feel like if you follow the trajectory from HW1 to HW2, it's plausible to end up in the vicinity of HW3.
Even DoK's upsides, like the cinematics, may have been due to budget constraints when the project scope was determined. It already had the sjetwanking after all.
Barking Dog may have actually been the only devs to actually understand and appreciate "the HW1 that released". For the devs, the released game may have always been a horrible approximation of what they actually wanted to do.
The death knell was probably them excitedly meeting with Gearbox employees determined to make their own game, using HW's brand to get the approval from upstairs because it guarantees some minimum amount of sales. As tends to be the case with all these legacy IP projects that hate their audiences, it's all just people wanting to do original content but being de facto forced by Marketing to wear the skin of existing IP.
Also someone shot Ruskay with a tranquilizer dart.
Homeworld 1 was what it was.
Homeworld 2 was a refinement and a technological leap over Homeworld 1 to catch up with where the gaming industry was going.
>Homeworld 2 was a refinement and a technological leap over Homeworld 1
It was actually a step backward in technology compared to Homeworld 1. This sort of statement can only be coming from someone who never actually played these games on their release dates.
Homeworld 2 had a slightly nicer UI, and it looked better graphically, but on the backend mechanically it was 1000x worse, and on the story it was 10x worse. You hardly feel anything at all playing Homeworld 2; it's generic scifi slop writing and never came close to touching the feel of Cataclysm and HW1. Mechanically though, you lost all the emergent simulationist, physics-based aspects of the original engine, which created friendly fire, gave a reason to use formations, and resulted in actual tactics and strategies that didn't depend exclusively on a rock/paper/scissors scripted combat mechanic that HW2 tried aping from Starcraft et al.
Even today, you get entirely the wrong idea of the two games if you play the remaster because they literally just took all the HW1 assets and dumped them into the HW2 engine rather than remastering the HW1 engine. Even the new supposedly "original engine" made to run on modern computers, is full of bugs that completely ruin it. The only way to actually play HW1 and Cataclysm as they originally were is to have the original games and run them on emulators, or go through the trouble of getting them to work otherwise.
(nta) And HW3 has more in common with the original (not remastered) HW1 than with HW2.
>And HW3 has more in common with the original (not remastered) HW1 than with HW2.
That's such a huge stretch of the reality of the situation.
HW3 to HW1 is like a 4 year old child's fingerpainting to franz frazetta, or tic-tac-toe to tabletop battletech. They might have tried to emulate what HW1 did right, but it's incredibly amateur with no idea what the frick they were actually doing, dumbed down needlessly to the level of 85 IQ playtesters.
Homeworld had a lot of mystery
>the garden filled with those fanatics
>the ghost ship
>the graveyard dog
>the garden filled with those fanatics
The Kadeshi are explained as other survivors of the exile from Hiigara who chose to settle in the nebula, making them members of your own race you're forced to kill due to tragic ideological differences.
It's almost like the writing was good back then
>They might have tried to emulate what HW1 did right
Yeah, that's a better way to put it, actually
It's hilarious to me that they couldn't get the fuel system working for HW remastered, which entirely defeats the purpose of an entire ship.
>you lost all the emergent simulationist, physics-based aspects of the original engine, which created friendly fire, gave a reason to use formations, and resulted in actual tactics and strategies that didn't depend exclusively on a rock/paper/scissors scripted combat mechanic that HW2 tried aping from Starcraft et al.
No, that's really my entire point. The industry moved away from physics-based weapons fire for RTS games because it was an expensive technique that players generally didn't appreciate. It became the industry standard, and so HW2, rather than reinventing an archaic wheel, moved on. It's like how we no longer have V8s in cars; the industry moved on no matter how much enthusiasts prefer them to a turbo 4cyl.
>the industry moved on
The industry would be happy to make them. The government policies you forced on them made them illegal. You are quite disingenuous and therefore there is nothing worth taking seriously from you.
>because it was an expensive technique that players generally didn't appreciate
What? It's not an expensive technique at all. In fact if you look at how much effort has to be spent on finetuning every single possible variable by hand, the emergent properties of physics based systems becomes dramatically cheaper in the long run, especially when it comes to maintaining that shit.
There is absolutely nothing cheap about rock/paper/scissors style mechanics unless you never go further than the most basic b***h streamlined, 3 variable mechanics of it. Balancing it especially is something that takes fricking years of experience with the system and playing it in order to finetune correctly and then you end up with shit like "ok this specific tank has 20% damage resist against rockets, and 40% against AP projectiles, and 90% vs small arms, but this other tank has 10%, 30%, etc." Like you end up having these gigantic balance spreadsheets trying to work over 3000 different fricking variables all affecting balance outcomes in your game. It fricking baffles me that devs haven't learned to stop doing this instead of taking physics (systems) based approach to it all; where you apply properties to things and their physical interactions automatically determine outcomes without autistically finetuning every single variable involved.
The only thing that the RPS simplistic mechanics style has over emergent physics based ones is that it's like 3000x easier in terms of mathematics understanding, so of course it's what all the fricking morons make.
>It fricking baffles me that devs haven't learned to stop doing this instead of taking physics (systems) based approach to it all; where you apply properties to things and their physical interactions automatically determine outcomes without autistically finetuning every single variable involved.
Gates of Hell Ostfront uses physical impact angles to decide damage outcomes and it really adds that spice of random chaos to a hectic warzone
>The only thing that the RPS simplistic mechanics style has over emergent physics based ones is that it's like 3000x easier in terms of mathematics understanding, so of course it's what all the fricking morons make.
They used a ready-made game engine. What did you expect?
Homeworld 3 has ballistics, tho. I had my mothership nuclear missile collide against a piece of scenery earlier today because it was too dumb to aim first.
And friendly fire is a thing in this game.
>mothership nuclear missile
Come again?
He probably means the fusion missile upgrade the mothership gets. It makes a big red boom and I too had it impact my own ships at one point when something happened to be in the way and the missile didn't adjust or anything. Friendly fired my other mothership on the last mission, kinda hilarious.
No, you can tell there was still some level of competence involved in the writing and art direction (but not the game mechanics, polish, programming, or UI) with deserts of kharak. It had the DEI shit but it wasn't completely over the top, it was still bearable and the overall story despite retconning some interesting and good lore wasn't complete ass, just not as good as it could have been.
But with Homeworld 3 you can clearly see that they just gave up. Whoever was actually competent in that studio was either completely suppressed and prevented/pressured from working on the game effectively, or outright fired. The collapse in quality even just between DoK and HW3 is like going off a cliff, whereas between HW1/Cataclysm and HW2 is a steep slope, and HW2 to DoK a shallow slope.
I like how HW3 made Cataclysm universally beloved. It was already well liked, but before this blunder any HW thread would often have the token purist shitting on Cata for being "not canon" and saying how HW2 despite all its flaws is the real successor to Homeworld.
Now suddenly everyone realized Cataclysm was Homeworld 1.5 and HW2 is where it all went wrong in the first place, thanks to HW3 taking all its flaws and none of the good parts.
HW1 being good was not an accident and I don't know why this is your conclusion. Relic just wanted to cash in on its success by franchising it even though hardly anyone actually played it. Homeworld 2 was designed to push the visual spectacle as far as possible without your CPU catching on fire. Ballistics and unit tactics were stripped to achieve this. Units were given far less health so that you could watch ships popping all day and it makes for cool marketing screenshots. The story was intentionally vague and grandiose to in attempt to capture the grandiose legacy the first game had garnered with what little story elements it had. The minimal UI was replaced by the ugly neon blue mouse compatible UI that took up half the screen.
These are all compromises to appeal to people that heard about Homeworld 1, but never played it. Homeworld 3 is simply following this trend. Homeworld is a game that gets a lot of praise from gaming journalists that never played it, but know that holding it in high regard is a respectable opinion. This is who they are trying to impress. It's people who don't play games making a game for people who don't play games so that they can leverage that into marketing to people who don't play games, let alone RTS games.
Kinda like Halo!
I'm actually pretty upset this game sucks so much. I was really looking forward to it.
At least I wasn't stupid enough to preorder. Learned that lesson long ago
If you played released hardspace shipbreakers then you knew the punchline before ever seeing the joke.
>hardspace shipbreakers
never played it but it's on my wishlist. is it also pozzed?
They initially had a fun daily grind simulator and fricked it up by adding an intrusive plot.
How intrusive you may ask? It actually prohibits you from playing whilst it lectures you.
Early Access launched with 1 ship bay, no story, 3 ship types with a number of "variations" in internal layouts and some external hardware attached. You had a cutter, grapple, and scanner to do most of your work and a tech tree that promised to let you dismantle ships quicker, cheaper, and with the promise of eventually profiting from your work.
It launched out of early access with 1 ship bay, no story, 3 ship types with a number of "variations" in internal layouts and some external hardware attached. You had a cutter, grapple, and scanner to do most of your work but they changed the tech tree so that most upgrades were incremental, rather than changing or improving the behavior of how things worked.
They also added, instead of multiplayer, a campaign story that followed you through your shipbreaking career and emphasized that you, the shipbreaker, are a wagie living in a cagie and the only way to break free is to unionize under the leadership of a strong black woman, stand up to the white man boss, and withhold your valuable manual labor. It's a story that's just preached at you because you can't really do anything to control the story; you just have it happen while the NPCs talk to you over the radio and you get a cheap-looking slideshow at the very end showing how the boss is now stuck in the low-end job while your black woman union leader is sitting at the negotiating table with all these high-powered CEOs.
The worst part is that they had a discord and early access community committing to making mods and giving feedback to the devs.
The most requested/asked for/anticipated thing was more ships, maybe vertical ships ala The Mothership in Homeworld considering how massive the bay is. You know how the devs responded?
>Oh, we can't make new ships or different layouts because the engine isn't technically proficient enough to allow it. The physics break if we go above a certain size or a different shape.
People also hoped for multiplayer; there's so many opportunities for shenanigans with just the early access game.
>Co-op would be a KILLER feature but it would likely take our entire team months just to investigate if it's even possible.
Customization never really made it into the game despite the fact that they were willing to add stickers and posters to the tools and hab. Is it really that hard to give players the chance to buy different colors of suit or something? REALLY!?
God don't remind me. It's baffling that they wrote something that bad.
>Create a world in which companies have absolute power, can kill and revive you at a whim and tank your fiances with ultra debt
>UNIONS
Absolutely disgusting. I had hopes for HW3 because I thought the writing teams were not the same but I guess I was wrong.
I mean, if you're doing an insurgency-type of story in a setting like that I would've thought they'd go with black-market shipbreaking where you steal parts from ships your salvaging or moonlight at another yard, slowly building up a rep for breaking up ever more dangerous wrecks or going out to regions like the asteroid belt where maybe you don't have access to all the tools and need to work on the cheap.
That reminds me, they never added new hazards after launch did they?
Saw my friend play that shit. Mind numbing boring “game.” Who’d even play that kind of shit.
It's an interesting puzzle game to try and break up ships for maximum profit.
Ponder on THAT
Even EVE Online is better than this shit and it's been dead for years
Go woke go broke. It's funny seeing all the woke games like Homeworld 3 flop while antiwoke games like Starfield is mega successfull.
All DEI EGS troony shit should just die.
>antiwoke games like Starfield
huh?
>antiwoke
>Starfield
Didn't this come out with mobs of zombie-looking PoC zombies in every city? or did Bethesda correct that in patches
>starfield
>anti-woke
They proudly bragged about how diverse their team was.
Get woke, go broke,
Specially if you don't have billions to safe net your woke projects.
My gut told be something was off with the reveal tailer, but I chose to ignore it.
Ship design probably
I wanted this game to be good so much...
I wouldn't even have cared about the story if the gameplay and skirmish was good. HW2 was fun.
But this... this is just pathetic and sad.
Not only is the story a childish joke, skirmish fricking sucks. You fight your ships more than your enemy. You can't even adjust ship caps...
Mods will fix it. In fact, there was a ship cap mod shared on Discord earlier
So I wanted to remake this webm with hw3
And this is the best I could do with hours of trying.
Even the largest maps are so fricking tiny that the AI is constantly on your ass.
And even if it wasn't your fleet at cap is SO. FRICKING. TINY.
If you couldn't tell, I'm upset.
But unlike HW2 you finally have formations in HW3!
Except you don't because they don't fricking work
Yes, and they're completely useless. How the frick could not implement technology from the first game from 1999?
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/taMsuR5VqAA?feature=share
top kek anon, well done
>unjoyce
Did you notice she's just one of the writers in the credits and doesn't have her title as show there?
It's surreal to me just how many writers this piece of shit had. What did they do? First Homeworld was written by THREE people and I'm talking script, manual and story concept altogether.
Stop harassing her, you bigots!
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeworld/comments/1cvpaxe/did_they_just_remove_the_interview_with_lin_joyce/
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeworld/comments/1cvqrti/i_guarantee_you_they_didnt_pull_the_joyce_qa_to/
>Geabox is already trying to erase evidence of why the game ended up being shit
Every fricking time.
>Don't you find it _infuriating_ when the popular jury misses on all of your virtue signaling and targets you as is you were one of THEM?
Those damn nazis!!
topkek
>so proud of her and all her work in the leadup
>YAAAS QUEEN sorry chuddie, this isnt a game for you!
>game bombs
>who could possibly be responsible for this
>muh narrative scholar
typical, was all set up to take credit but wants none of the blame
>to take credit but wants none of the blame
This reminds me of a certain demographic I can't quite put my finger on
>put my finger on
Don't put your finger on them anon, you'll get aids
>"Okay we know this woman ruined a project worth millions of dollars and crushed the life work of dozens of people and countless of fans, but you can't make her feel bad!"
this is a fricking hilarious parallel with how the shitty Homeworld 3 game ended
>"Okay sure the stupid YAS QUEEN kill millions of people but she feels bad! You can't be upset at a woman who feels bad! How dare you!"
>Not sure why you think I'm "whipping up over woke DEI", she's just a shitty writer, don't care about DEI as long as it doesn't impact the story negatively
Ok, frickface, if you care so much about shitty writing "only" what is it exactly about DEI being ipso facto never far from this shitty writing but you absolutely refusing to notice or comment on the pattern and link between the two if not outright denying it as a conspiracy theory?
How is it not a literal conspiracy then and just what the frick is your angle you fricking AAAAAaAaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
I swear just like they said during the 2020 Wu flu, I don't care if and even hope these people literally die. Their families too. Literally fricking die. in real life, at Hassan's house in LA.
>BPD + ecstasy Stacey comes in
>queen b***h of the universe delivered from on high by Randy b***hford himself
>story is already mostly done
>trashes story because it isn't HER special snowflake vision
>acts like a boss b***h because her online listicles told her it owns the patriarchy or something
>she gets off scotfree to daisy chain her way into another cushy position
>meanwhile the hard workers get shafted
ok I am genuinely mad
ENTER
>Sands and Sinners!
>By Viin Caal's Arrow!
>May the burden remain.
Who thought Homeworld 3 needed memeable slogans to be repeated in every fricking cutscene?
,
I remember Cataclysm had some but it fitted more with the mood of the situation
>Curse you back to Kharak!
The same people who looked at homeworld being like "so this is basically dune and star wars?" then decided that like said media it should have a bunch of "iconic" moments that will be turned into wacky internet memes like "they fly now" and "somehow Palpatine has returned"
Unable to distinguish 'laughing with you' and 'laughing at you'
the same morons that thought it needed capeshit marvelslop quips and 3d models yaas queening eachother probably
Higher quality video
>lopsided ships
>wobbling as if they were underwater
>can't stay in formation
>shit starts exploding right away
>running around in disarray like morons
It illustrates what playing this game feels like very well.
Homeworld 3 is not even a 20 hour game.
It's not even a 10 hour game
I dunno, I think it's probably 12-15 hours for most people if you factor in multiple mission failures or people letting their entire fleet get wiped and rebuilding it.
https://www.howlongtobeat.com/game/4496
>Main Story: 16 Hours
I know about quality > quantity, but that is just pathetic.
What game did you play for 16 hours? Homeworld is only a few hours long. Did you get trapped in a neverending loop of skirmish matches or something?
>speedrun
>rts
H1Classic speedrun is amazing
build only scouts to limit cap and literally trainwreck everything to the last mission
I definitely remember at least 20 on my first playthrough. The game is hard, not only in difficulty, but that your ships transfer over to the next level, so there is a very strong possibily that you have to start the game over because you lost so many ships and can't afford to replace them all in order to beat the following mission.
people speedrun all darksouls games in 1h tops, does it mean average player finishes the game in 1h?
it took me about 18 though i played on hard and died a bunch on the ship dockyard mission so there was a number of retries
most of the missions though felt pretty easy and having the same amount of missions as DOK, i liked those missions way more than the ones in H3
The missions in 3 looked like they were mostly very short, cinematic ones, at least from what I watched.
they are, i tended to go slow since you don't have a choice when to leave after the objectives are complete and i wanted the max amount of resources so i would delay leaving a lot of the time which also added more to the playthrough, that being said i did restart the dockyard mission a whole bunch on hard, i didn't realize how the reinforcements worked so i was trying to rush but that ended up giving the enemy even more stuff all at once instead of spreading the waves out
So the game AI, like in HW2, scales directly off how well you're doing? If you play smart and conserve units, it results in exponentially increased spawn rates and shit like that?
That's what killed HW2 for me the first time around. I'm only a few missions in, take my time at the end of the mission to get my fleet in top shape before I jump, you know, going into the unknown fully prepared for anything. Mission starts and it's an immediate clusterfrick, being swarmed by impossible odds that don't make any kind of gameplay sense. Beat my head against that wall for a few days and give up.
I later read that the 'correct' way to play is to metagame the AI and recycle all ships before jumping, so I start with nothing (but RUs), and the AI spawn rate is set at 'light patrols', not 'multiple capital ship assault clusters'.
I heard Remaster fixed this.
Original HW2 was brutal. The AI would spawn in waves every few minutes, and for each ship you had, it'd spawn three, plus they'd always be the right type to counter your current ones. You had to fight cleverly because trying to match production made it go insane.
they need a rerelease after another year
The game has been in development for like 8 years with multiple delays. I don't think it's salvagable. Ganker needs to buy the Homeworld license, then make an actual Homeworld 3.
>RTS, good graphics, coop
I was looking forward to this never having played a HW game, but everyone says it sucks and it doesn't look like issues that can be fixed in a few updates
How is Sins of a Solar Empire II coming along?
Just go play homeworld remastered in co-op instead. There's a shitload of mods you can use to spice it up too.
Sins2 still needs a long time in the oven.
Is there a campaign coop mod? I've been playing SoaSE:R Co op recently, but would love something with an actual mission structure.
It's bad.
Unironically how do you go from Sands of Kharak to this? Like seriously how does that drop in quality happen that quick?
Deserts of Kharak was 8 years ago. That dev team and most of the contractors probably already left the company.
Kharak was a completely independent production, only scooped up by Gearbox in the final third of dev time and officially made a Homeworld title. HW3 was entirely made after Gearbox took over and forced all kinds of homosexual corpo mandates on them.
Gearbox is usually very hands off other studios. They might do things their own way for Borderlands but as a publisher they haven't exercised a lot of control over the content of other studios.
>completely independent
Kharak felt like a Homeworld game though. Gameplay, the look of it, the background lore...
It retconned so much how could you call it Homeworld?
more souless cinematic less gameplay. they'd better remake ugh from golden age
holy frick
Are the remastered versions of the first two games worth playing? I remember people saying they were buggy on release.
Homeworld Remastered's formations are fricked up, even with the community patch. Homeworld 2 Remastered, from what I've played, is just HW2, but with better graphics. Someone can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
Are the formation problems in the Classic versions as well, or are those identical to the original releases?
There's no formation problems in the classics(I'm assuming you're talking about the 2 original games bundled with the remastered collection). I don't think they're identical to the original versions because someone said the developer introduced some weird bug in the "classic" versions. I've never had any problem with them, and they're a lot easier to mod since there's workshop support for them since they're in the RC.
Buy there's literally 0 mods for homeworld classic in the workshop
You can play the actual original version:
Was
a picture of Imogen S'jet's penis?
The team that made the splendor mod have another patch that makes it modern system-compatible without altering the gameplay:
https://www.homeworld3.ru/forum/archive/index.php/t-2014.html
1.05 patch:
https://www.patches-scrolls.com/homeworld.php
And find the game on archive.org
Let's fricking go. You can easily find CD keys by searching.
Now that I'm playing this I can see they actually brought back a lot of stuff that had disappeared with HW2/remastered. The control scheme, which seemed strange to me because I was used to remastered, is reminiscent of HW1 (even with the "modern" "improvements"). The contextual menu and the concurrent building, too.
This makes me think at some point this game was a true Homeworld game, going back to its roots, before they fricked it up royally. I'm so fricking mad.
Is there something similar for the original versions of cataclysm and 2?
yes, its good
I wrote a post explaining the two DEI groups they consulted with according to the credits and linking to this explanatory video:
Now I can't find the post in my post history. I think they nuked the whole thread without even locking it. I didn't get banned, either.
If this thread disappears you know these groups are pulling strings to cover their tracks.
This is a good video that is well researched, thank you anon
They are not bothering with locking threads anymore, they are directly deleting anything they have instructions to do so.
AHAHAHA
All we need to do is keep talking about it.
>racist
???
>dog whistle for racist or disciminatory content
They can't escape it
Eventually their hubris will catch up to them
Community managers have always been a fricking mistake. They are the worst of the worst. They suck the dicks of awful devs and treat customers like shit and constantly lie to keep their own position. None of you will remember this guy, but I had an exceptional hatred for the EA Games CM "Apoc" who managed the Command & Conquer games. This motherfricker lied to the customers nonstop, pretending to be this brodude who went on adventurous trips around Murrica, sponsored by EA.
I constantly got into fights with Demize and called him a pinhead with no good understanding of how or why a video game is fun way back in the mid 00s on the EA UK Forums before they were all closed. I knew for a decade+ what a fricking homosexual that dude was so it was no surprise he ended up destroying the Battlefield franchise.
The latest, from a CDPR developer.
God I hate how fricking pussy whipped the west is
Holy frick, if you're going to backpedal that hard, why make the post in the first place?
When it comes to DEI shit it's possible he was told he would be fired if he didn't
Wouldn't surprise me, but basically everyone knows how twitter works by now, right? If you post anything that could be considered controversial you will get an entire deluge of people who will want to correct your wrong opinion. He must have known what kind of responses that post would generate, unless he's hilariously out of touch.
>I'm looking forward to the next AC; the setting intrigues me a lot ;D
I can just picture the gun pointed at its head as he's typing this backpedaling PR bullshit lmao
>your opinion goes against the allowed groupthink and thus you are not allowed to have it
clownworld
>making a truthful statement about it being bizarre a game studio's first thought on a japanese shogunate game set in japan ostensibly about japanese people is to find a way to shove Black folk into it
>when the CEO of the company you work for has made several PR videos in the last two years with a vacant slug stare surrounded by homosexual flags proselytizing DEI and Blackrock Investments
Not very bright. And yes it's very plainly obvious he was told to get on his knees and suck off woke shit or he would get fired and anyone saying otherwise is naive or a Community Manager.
I never thought I would say this, but I would rather play deserts of kharak with its janky unity engine, not set in space, and rachel s'jet wanking
the one nice thing about this game is that if you're a cheevo addict you can easily get everything in 1 playthrough and maybe replay a level or two if you happen to miss something + 1 skirmish match and a war game or two
it's kinda like the homeworld remasters in that just about everything is easily to obtain unlike DOK which had a ton of multiplayer stuff
I have the hw2 collector's mothership looking nice on my shelf, is it worth to get this one too (just for the model)?
Do not, under any circumstances, give money to Blackwiener Interactive. If you really want the collector's edition, then buy it used.
oshi- just brought shipbreakers
>Buy it used
>Pay scalper prices
No thanks
They are banning people when they ask for a simple "yes/no" answer to whether or not they hired Sweet Baby Inc, therefore I am not buying it.
Homeworld 1
>You jump back to the first map only to see wreckage floating in space, then upon turning the camera around you see your home planet in flames and a couple ships attacking a few cryotrays floating in space that contain what is left of your people - 100 thousand people per tray, and they can be destroyed if you're too slow
>Fleet command and the officer both try to mantain their professional tome and stay to the point, but you can feel that they're in pain
Homeworld 3
>I AM LE SAD AND ALONE AIEEEEEEE MUH FEELINGS NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME AIEEE I MUST VENT I AM SO UPSET AAAAAAAAH I AM EXPERIENCING GENUINE HUMAN FEELINGS RIGHT NOW THEY ARE VERY HUMAN AAAAAAAAH
WTF happened?
,
unbridled narcissism and human atomisation creating the perfect corpo/product/state reliant docile consuming golem.
In other words: a Transwoman (male).
Cataclysm also had fricking amazing voice actors. There's one point where your engineers are trying their best to analyze the beast's samples at the beginning because all your research crew were consumed by it and you can hear the engineer's voice shaking as he tries to explain what's happening. And he admits he isn't fricking trained for this shit
They even add the screams of the crew members in the background as he remembers what it sounded like. Basically the Breast uses the consumed crews neuro tissue to bring the ship alive
Shout out to the sounds of the crew being consumed alive, and hopefully killed, as you detatch them
There's another scene where you come to the Bentusi to ask for help since they are old as shit and the second they realize what it is they lose their shit and attempt to warp to another galaxy to frick off. The peaceful people immedaitely try to kill you to desperately escape before the beast can reach them they are so terrified. And your commander calls them out on their hypocracy. And he just sounds like some tired old mining captain at his wits end since that's exactly what he is
>Cataclysm also had fricking amazing voice actors.
this cannot be overstated. it's like night and day comparing those games with hw3.
I find it interesting those games had such good VA in an age when VA in vidya was largely seen as a joke. Homeworld and Myth in particular always stood out to me.
The French beast VA is beyond fricking terrifying
for it makes my peepee hard, mostly the female part of the beast voice.
That's awful
The absolute state.
>Anthro beast
Do people... really? And while I am memeing I am also serious. Do people actually actually jerk off to the beast? It looks like a perfect thing to make a joke edit to pretend that there are people like that.
There must be a rule like rule 34 that goes "If it exists, someone out there wants to have sex with it"
This is giving me murder drones vibes.
And I love alien abominations that want to suck me dry.
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how the FRICK did they get voice actors to scream like that
Stuffed them in a room filled with smelly French cheese and recorded the screams.
The voice actors cared about their work. They want to convey the absolute horror of being consumed and re-arranged by a monster.
If you guys were unaware this entire game is a nod to Event Horizon. The "Beast" is some extra dimensional "thing" that spreads through ships and consumes organic matter to make them come alive. And it supposedly was brought to homeworld from:
>"a neighboring galaxy, using an experimental hyperdrive of immense power. By the time the ship emerged from hyperspace, it was carrying a malevolent form of life, which had not been present at the start of its journey. "
I think I remember some comment that the Beast was over 20 billion years old, and thinking "that's impossible... oh wait, it's something beyond Einstein/Hubble reality, oh frick"
The fact that it is older than the Progenitors is terrifying. Being older than the entire fricking universe is even more terrifying. It knows what killed them.
I miss the time when mystery was a thing, before everything had to be part of some epic marvelesque universe and you are forcefed lore about details like how they wipe their asses.
The beast would be so lame if it was reveled that they were a bio weapon or some banal shit like that.
>be 10 years old
>get hwc for birthday because it was a video game on the discount rack and we were poor
>mfw the mission where the refugee ships are getting juiced by the beast on the open comms
I was 10 when I played it back in 2000. I had a nightmares that our family car came alive and ate my parents while I heard them screaming to death. And then one where it consumed all my classmates in the schoolbus and chased me down the street
>mfw commander actually gets Bentusi to compose themselves with his delivery
It's pretty damned good writing and voice acting.
>It doesn't matter how we die! One ancient monster is as good as another!
>We... are... not... monsters...
>Aren't you...? Look around! Look what you've done to our fleet! All because we dared to stand in your way! Look at yourselves: the aloof and mighty Bentusi! Slaughtering the people who ask for your help! You're worse than the Beast!! AT LEAST THE BEAST DOESN'T PRETEND TO BE RIGHTEOUS!!!
>We see our own madness reflected in yours. We will do what we can to help.
Good shit. They don't make 'em like that anymore.
WE WILL NOT BE BOUND!
i still don't understand how the frick do they even research the beast
If it can interface with non-organic shit, how the frick do they contain it to observe? How do they get samples of individual cells without it fricking up the machinery on transport and eating through whatever simple hazard suits they have on board?
I'M A JADED 38 YEAR OLD MAN. THIS WAS THE ONLY GAME THAT I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO. WHY DOES THE GAME INDUSTRY KEEP DOING THIS SHIT?
Because it has been thoroughly invaded by corporate greed and cultural Marxists.
Not all is lost, as the indie sector does produce pearls every now and then, but they do require you to dive through an entire ocean worth of shit to find them.
You have to let go of the past old man. There are still good games but its not going to be from your beloved franchises. Those are prime targets for the demoralisation campaign that is targeting (you) explicitly. Its not in your head.
I felt a huge weight lifted off me when I gave up on my old franchises and allowed the past to be the past.
No there will never be another good Elder Scrolls game and I'm OK with that.
I completely forgot this game even existed
can I get the qrd on what happened?
>Is this the fastest vidya disappearance of all time?
Anthem was pretty quick, proportionally.
>Is this the fastest vidya disappearance of all time?
Company of Heroes 3
Dawn of War 3
Total War Pharaoh
Finally got to try skirmish last night with a friend, I knew it was gonna suck but I didn't realize it was this bad:
>Only like 6 maps
>No hyperspace
>No actual open space map
And one of several likely tedious reasons there are no open space maps is turrets can only deploy to actual physical objects like ground
>The whole resource setup is now mine for 2 minutes move onto the next, the whole map was basically gone in 10 minutes
They killed it, I regret getting the collectors edition and I hope everyone who was part of this decision never gets to touch any other IP I like
>skirmish
>No hyperspace
How? It's a fricking Homeworld game.
Dude I don't fricking know. You literally have units hyperspace in, the animations are there, I just found no modules or anything to actually let me do jumps within the map.
they couldn't get hyperspace jumps to work with the megastructures
Not my problem, they either should have had open space maps or let people jump in to giant structures and kill their fleet, it would be a great risk reward mechanic if you pulled it off
Fricking hilarious if true. 20 years ago the technology wasn't there yet and PCs couldn't handle the mega structures. Now technology progressed, but their programmers/designers regressed and we still can't have the megaliths properly without fricking up the game.
there is nothing to talk about
sjw insert killed off another beloved franchise
I'm so tired of this DEI bullshit
>villain doesn't get what she deserves because... reasons
>managing director of narrative properties
i guarantee she gets good amount of money for doing jack shit, world really needs a reset to remove all those nothing jobs
>It's DEI because... blacks!
Homeworld has always been a middle-eastern coded games.
middle eastern doesn't mean black holy shit
yeah but it does mean dark/darker skin. The point is that a homie with the last name 'Paktu' or the incarnate queen being light brown skinned is wholly within the realm of possibility in a game like this. These characters being of a different skin color is not what made this game shit. Them being white would not have made the game or the writing any better.
Shut the frick up israelite
>It's da israeliteS!
Just admit you're a fricking secondary already and find another thread to racebait in.
It's the israelites, now frick off tourist
back to prison Black person
Thanks for your input, you election year tourist.
now swallow you troony homosexual
>election year tourist
Do you really think that is a thing?
It is for China and Russia. Half the posts from this board right now are prob from those guys.
The story is shit because actual writers (their skin color is irrelevant) were displaced so that whoever wrote this travesty could shoehorn diversity into a game that didn't need it.
I played the first HW in 99, it was groundbreaking and there was nothing else like it before or since really. I hope these homosexuals are part of the next wave of layoffs.
The thing that kills me is that DoK was solid, 8/10 all-around with a lot of great immersion and visual/sound details. BBI already proved they can make a good RTS. HW3 is a step backward in most respects, even the way units move is way off, it's like they're too slow or something. I'm mildly disappointed overall. One big I can give is that the Wargames mode is a lot of fun. My one hope is that it gets engoodened.
I get that they want to try something new with cinematics by going full 3d, but it's almost unfortunate that their original style is way more interesting and iconic. I liked the animated motion-graphics effect they used in DoK.
As someone said before, DoK was already made as an indie game when Gearbox got its hands on it. HW3 is a full, billion-dollar investment group backed corporate product.
By Sajuuk, Wargames mod for Dok will be fantastic !
>no modules
>linear research
>fighters are wall of guns and not actual fighters
>engagement ranges are basically melee range
>there are no counter to units or counters to counters
>small craft melt everything
>BC can't melt a frigate in one beam shot
>frigate bloat that all do the same thing
>press x for amazeings hit to happen on every single unit
>ai is literally non existent
>not an actual RTS
>it's an autoclicker of how fast you can press build unts and watch them die
>no hyperspace
>no attack move
>formations don't work
>unit limits per unit, not per class
>scale of units absolutely fricked, they all look the same size almost
>fighters are slower than the mothership
>all maps are tiny arenas covered in useless geometry
>you are limited to 8 resource collectors that magically collect RU into your bank no matter how far your MS is
>all resources are scattered evenly around the map, removing any need to contest specific zones
>all fights are won by spamming units and whomever runs out of RU first when the map supply of RU gets sucked up, loses
>no tactics, no unit counters, no ability to rush specific tech
>probably much more
thats not even mentioning the story
this game is not a real game
Good points. But attack move works exactly like before
it doesn't you cant move capital ships and keep them firing
they need to stop to fire main guns
>it doesn't you cant move capital ships and keep them firing
>they need to stop to fire main guns
This is not true. I have completed the campaign and played a couple of PvE games and I can tell you that is not true.
I have had bcs sometimes fire on the move but I basically had to set them to aggressive and just let them do their thing if the other anon has a more reliable way I would love to hear it
Set neutral formation, don't use attack command, just use the move command to get them into range of the enemy. Honestly brute forced my way through the game till the last two levels till I figured that out and it turned the game into easy mode. Dunno why attack doesn't make some units hold formation. Also does anyone sometimes have their mothership seemingly run away or into the enemy in large battles
>does anyone sometimes have their mothership seemingly run away or into the enemy in large battles
If it's set to aggressive, it will do that all the time.
Nah happens when that isn't the case 🙁 like I shouldn't be selected when I frag over my fleet unless I add it but sometimes it seems to still get moving. Idk it's pretty rare but it happened twice in campaign to me near the end during the final two missions which are big battles. Maybe I am just a noob and mistaken though
speaking about attack
>attack dragging a box around enemy units wont make them prioritise units they are supposed to counter
>bombers will strafe a frigate and then go fight fighters right after instead of targeting another
all this shit makes me feel like it wasn't just the story that got hit with the DEI stick
Also, research is not linear. Items within each category can be researched in parallel. You only need to have one research of a previous category to be able to unlock the next one. It's a tree. Interceptor tech unlocks corvette tech, unlocks frigate tech, unlocks capital tech, but within any of those categories, you can research concurrently.
Anon...
yes, its linear
Also, in wargames, it's all completely unlocked. You can research anything concurrently in any order
>scale of units absolutely fricked, they all look the same size almost
TURN OF NLIPS YOU FRICKING moron WHY DOES NO ONE EVER FRICKING TURN OFF NLIPS ARE YOU FRICKING STUPID IM GOING TO FRICKING KILL YOU
jokes aside folks - lets turn off nlips!
I find it hilarious how Hardspace: Shipbreaker had wokeslop gobbledyasiatic for a plot and nobody bats an eye, then HW3 comes out and it's the same turbo AIDS bullshit but now it's somehow Gearbox's fault.
>I find it hilarious how Hardspace: Shipbreaker had wokeslop gobbledyasiatic for a plot
It does?
This guy is a homosexual trying too hard to be a serious Sseth with WRONG opinions.
He is mostly correct though.
The game is just wasted storytelling.
So wasted that its comical.
And now here we are in 2024 celebrating yet another wasted game.
>nobody bats an eye
people fricking hated it when they forced their college communist bawd into the game
did you forget the shitstorm that it caused, it killed the game for good
Why come people blame Gearbox right now then, if it's a known fact that BBI is pozzed?
both of them are at fault
they are both at fault, homeworld 2 had a done of stupid decisions like the core
Blackbird had HIV during the Cataclysm fracas (which they refused as a sequel)
Blackbird showed cases of AIDS during Shipbreakers
Gearbox is just the massive case of Karposi's Sarcoma showing on HW3's gums
Staff transfers between Gearbox and BBI means Borderlands writers worked on this game.
>Imogen: Hyperspace jump initiated
>Skeeter in the background: CATCH A RIIIIIDE
In a sane world, being credited as a writer for Borderlands 3 would've had you blacklisted from ever writing again.
Feel free to point at the corresponding names in the credits.
people were mad at both you stupid homosexual
>I find it hilarious how Hardspace: Shipbreaker had wokeslop gobbledyasiatic for a plot and nobody bats an eye
Shut the frick up. There's been a fricking tsunami of people complaining about that. Are you the same idiot who keeps making Nioh / Ass Is Red: Samurai threads about how "nobody cared when a white man was in Nioh, but everyone cares about a black samurai"?
It's pretty simple you moron, it wasn't as bad.
The most requested feature on the steam forums was an ability to skip the story dialog. Open up steam right now and I bet you find a post about it within the first two pages.
"How do I skip the story?"
>blackbird gets rid of piece of shit gamedev feminist
>she gets hired by gearbox and is made overseer of HW3
>it's a disater
I wonder if they will fire her of blame BB.
Those types NEVER face consequences, nobody wants to deal with their tantrums. You can fire a whole team of regular guys and they'll just look for another job, the freak will instead have a public meltdown and trash up company's reputation.
i cheesed the first game campaign by capturing the junkyard dog and then using it to collect ships from all the different enemies. Was kind of cool to have a beautiful progressive multikulti confederation of ships (of course sending the kadeshi in the vanguard tho to soak up everything)
I should try the original. Bought it on gog, but never tried it.
PONDER DEEZ NUTS
The only good thing going for HW3 is it has modding built in. I think people can at least make something solid with it. I doubt anyone actually will though.
>What gives?
Letting danger hairs crash IP's with no survivors. So nature can heal.
reaching
They self insert as a rule because they're coddled narcissist.
israeli female writer took over creative development and bossed everyone in the studio around because she's fricking gearbox execs
The end result is what you see.
I hope investors and gearbox lost tens of millions of dollars on this because of it
They never fricking learn until it hits their pocket book and then they still struggle to realize it until they're near fricking broke and destitute
the worst part is you know this c**t was paid six figures to destroy this crap
Blackrock money is starting to dry up. People are slowly waking up to everything being a racialized psyop until you challenge chosenites. Then it's black list time and no more hand outs. The timing couldn't be better.
People like you remind me of all those clickbaiting youtube homosexuals swearing Disney is over and will not see another year since fricking 2015
Blackrock money will never dry up
They'll just rebrand their subversion efforts with another name and the press will keep printing dollahs to feed the lifestyle of millenial californian manchildren turning everything they touch into shit
They can keep trying to rage farm and all they are doing is opening up more niche markets to go mainstream. These people are all getting replaced by AI but will still be slop farmers. Autist will finally be able to do their passion projects faster than snail pace. Nature is healing.
Larry is still a trillionaire. All they're doing is renaming it.
Larry has a big mouth and they treat their own the same way the mafia treats people who cause problems.
>Blackrock money is starting to dry up
That kind of money gets printed whenever it's needed.
The fact that you think money is real or important to people with actual power is funny.
Money is like the tokens they give you at your company mess hall to spend on the vending machines there.
Money is for slaves.
It's the incentive for their bad behavior. They also turned on the hands that were feeding them. I guarantee the cross section of ESG/DEI and people ending up on black list are very wide. Money is for owners, because they print it. The West never stopped living under feudalism. It got central banking, usury and the illusion of capitalism as worse terms for their devalued labor. The same way communism is just another front for feudal corporate power. You can't have capitalist systems without sound money and fiat is not sound money.
You better hope they want to keep you around as a slave. Because right now you're just the carbon they want to eliminate.
I want to believe. I am ready.
It's not just the writing, the developer is full of shit.
It's why I approve of Millennial failures burying IP's as fast as possible. So autist with AI assistance can resurrect them and at least autonomous Q&A can replace all the dead weight in the studios that survive.
So long as they remember to gatekeep this time around.
Even the total normies are calling it a shit game, it's fricking orge.
Leftists are too busy worshipping blacks to care, pretty bad release window, poor BBI.
I don't get it man, DoK was decent, it wasn't what most expected or wanted but it was still in line with what you would assume would be a homeworld game. Just different, 3? Its just a nuclear dumpster fire
CG cutscenes
They had such a good thing with the artwork in previous games, and then they did this shit.
You just know some suit came in and pushed his idea forward for CG cutscenes and ignored everybody who told him that it was bad idea.
>decades of men dev teams
>characters are all atractive men&woman, look nothing like the people who created them
>female devs become a thing
>they self insert themselfs in every game they are part off.
Why do they do it?
Women live vicariously through other people so they can’t separate themselves from the characters they’re playing as or creating
People generalize it as "diversity hires", but really the main problem children are:
>pajeet programmers
>BPD women
>their corporate enablers
Throwing a BPD woman into a room full of nerdy white game devs is like throwing a starved weasel into a chicken coop. These are men who mostly lack experience with women. These are men who generally go along to get along. They are simply not equipped to understand that this is a deeply defective woman because they don't have the experience to recognize this. Thus they invariably let her have everything she wants, and as a BPD woman she wants everything.
No one put their foot down and said "no, this is a series based on understated thematic sci fi and 80s-90s films, not Marvel capeshit". They shrugged and decided it wasn't worth the pain which is going against mentally ill women with princess syndrome.
>this is a series based on understated thematic sci fi and 80s-90s films
Its based on the literal exodus, dipshit. Even has all the oriental and desert themes
The Steam forums are dead, Reddit is dead, Twitter is dead. There is nothing left.
The guardian angel has left us.
>Karen is missing for 20 years
>Imogen, there's no way she could still be alive after this long!
>Ignoring that she's lived since Homeworld 1 happened 250 years prior
This fricking story doesn't fricking know anything about Homeworld
Between the shit they pulled with Hardspace Shipbreakers and the season pass I got sufficiently worried to avoid pre-ordering this shit. Thank God for that.
At this point in time you shouldn't ever pre-order anything. You shouldn't have pre-ordered anything in the last ten years or so, really.
Bruh I literally never pre-order anything
Nothing in a pre-order is ever enough to make up for the game being 95% of the time guaranteed shit.
I genuinely don't understand the mindset of people who pre-order shit. How many fricking times do you have to get burned on pre-orders before you learn to just fricking buy a game when its released?
If you want the pre-order shit so badly just download it afterwards from some pirate site or torrent holy shit
Over the years I've grown a very good eye to avoid getting burned by pre-orders since as you said, there is a very good chance the game will be shit and it has just gotten painfully easy to ID that. Soon as I saw that fricking roadmap it was an immediate NOPE.
Genuinely feels like the more polished off everything looks in terms of roadmaps, backer rewards, concept art, promo materials etc. etc. the more vaporware the game is. Like the only people doing any work are the marketing team.
So as a rule of thumb, anything that has great marketing (especially if its "great" marketing, like spamming Ganker nonstop with shills and bots) it's a game I automatically avoid.
Why not just quit pre-ordering? The extra skins or whatever other trite pre-order bonus is worth the monumental risk of getting burned on the purchase of a whole game? Not cheap these days either!
Not him but these days I just wait a year or two before purchasing new games. By that time you can find a bundle with all the garbage dlc for half price or less. Plus I don't have to deal with horribly buggy 1.0 version.
I havent paid more than $15 for a game in almost 10 years except the odd multiplayer game of which maybe remotely 3 worthwhile day 1 ones came out in that timeframe.
I literally can't imagine paying $60 for a single player game these days, like im living in a panopticon of completely alien consumer behaviour all around me that makes no sense. Who is paying full price for this shit?
If you wait for a steam sale next year you'll have no one to talke about the game with.
Ganker/v/
who fricking cares
why do you need to talk about a game? play it.
Plus you can find cheap game keys easily. I got HW3 with all the DLCs for half the price of the base game.
If it's a game I know I'm going to get no matter what, I'll do it. I did it for Elden Ring and Warhammer 3.
I still don't get it. Why not just click buy when it comes out?
I want bonuses like playing as Ogre Kingdoms or the Adventurer's guide and the ring gesture.
>am told not to be a bigot chud racist neonazi
>interested in new game
>check dev Q/A and forums
>if i spot a single woman who is significantly overweight and/or has unnaturally dyed hair color + piercings shoved from and center I abort (just like they have undoubtedly done multiple times) and cross it off my list
>has never ever led me wrong
>niche genre
>niche series
>incredibly disappointing new release
>very saturated market, most gamers have a hefty backlog to fall back on if your game is shit
Business as usual.
>play HW2 in 2003 and love every second of it, still play skirmish occasionally for many years
>don't care for HW1 gameplay and graphics but enjoy reading all the lore
>Remastered, buy the collectors edition, some annoying changes in 2 like voice lines and music gone for some reason, tbh 2 doesn't even need a graphical update, still looks amazing, but whatever cool
>Kharak, feels a bit too hectic like DoW2 or CoH, but was ok
>Waited 21 years for a sequel to 2, I saw a video of people playing a demo that was available in Feb, saying the game was basically shit, everything I've heard and read makes me not even want to play it
Is a torrent available yet? Not paying for this turd.
Denuvo. Best bet is to figure out if Cream API can unlock it.
You know what never seems to fail me?
A two item checklist:
> Is it epic exclusive?
> Does it have denuvo?
If the answer is "Yes" to either of these two questions, I don't buy it because the game is guaranteed to be shit.
Denuvo is now the industry standard because it works.
That or it's always attached to games that nobody wants to pirate in the first place...
Making games nobody fricking wants to play is the industry standard.
>Mothership 1 is hidden in a fricking space glacier, let's go find it
>Fly into a crack in the ice into a cave and through a tunnel
>Fly OUT into a canyon at the top of the glacier
>Mothership 1 literally just standing straight up on the glacier in full view with the Hiigaran hexagon visible
>Had to fight a whole enemy fleet to find it
IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT THERE OUT IN THE OPEN
HOW IS THIS HIDDEN
WHAT WAS THE POINT OF TAKING THE MOTHERSHIP INTO THE CAVE
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I am at a loss for words, I simply do not know what to say.
how did they frick up her design.
This must have been intentional. She doesn't even look consistently bogged
the weirdness you're seeing is because of camera field of view
just incompetence at every step in this game
made by morons for nobody
>The Queen is only hunting down Imogen because the Hiigarans managed to make copies of the Progenitor Core
>The thing they supposedly did in Homeworld 1
>The thing that got retconned in Homeworld 2 but that almost every species managed to do to get regular hyperspace jump drives
The Precursor Cores, even in HW2, were not some kind of deep-space magic whose very presence enabled the warping and control of hyperspace. They were just very advanced technology that happened to be important for unlocking Precursor weapons and the hyperspace gate network. HW3 just straight-up makes it space magic.
At the end of 2 I got the impression that Hiigarans became the top homies of the galaxy, The Age of S'jet. How is anyone a threat to them in 3?
By Millennial writing.
>The Anomaly exists and spreads
>Karan takes the fleet into it through the unlocked gates
>Gets rekt and disappears for 20 years
>20 years later, war were declared
>Thanos/The Queen snapped her fingers and started blowing up planets by WEAPONIZING HYPERSPACE
>All Hiigara can do is send the half-finished mothership into the anomaly because... because.
Why were they building the new mothership? Wouldn't they have powerful ships like the Sajuuk Bear already?
The Sajuuk dreadnought was integrated into Karan's mothership. So now her Mothership has ion cannons and the Sajuuk gun in the final mission, instead of just CIWS.
It seems Mothership is only used for ships that carry Hyperspace Cores and are capable of farjumping. It took them 20 years to clone the Precursor cores used in the Motherships of HW2.
At least Karen And The Three Cores(tm) have been dumped into hyperspace and maybe we can stop hearing about them now. Gonna be another 20 years till they make HW4.
HW died to me after HW2. I hated the mysticism shit and this game just doubled down on it. Cataclysm was the perfect sequel.
There was always mysticism in HW.
Yeah from the Bentusi, who are space hippies.
>no 4x game in post hw2 universe
Back before remastered was a thing and I was on SSRIs I actually spent two years making a mix of Freelancer and X3 with Homeworld ship designs. I made a whole fricking custom OpenGL engine, learned to load models, do shadows and the whole fricking rendering pipeline + 2D UI and eventually burned out.
In the age of s'jet, i don't the galaxy would have too much action going on.
I believe Homeworld Mobile is like that or at least has a strategic layer.
Reddit
Not even once
You made me check that subplebbit and actually they are shitting on the dreadful story almost as much as we do, minus pointing out the wokeshit because that would get you banned there.
If any of you actually purchased the game you should upload this into the artwork section.
I would but I got banned for replying to someone asking if SBI was involved.
Do you think this will backfire on homeworld jannies in any capacity?
>fight against abominations
>lose many kiith members
>be the only sand-cursed kiith who takes this shit seriously
>finally kill the b***h
>thank you for saving us!!!
>centuries later they censor everything about the incident so people never know about the beast
>that also means your efforts go unsung
Somtaaw suffer more
Denuvo = Dead on arrival.
Terrible performance, and worse gameplay than the previous versions from 20 years ago.
BEAM ME UP