How can people say this is the best action game ever when the majority of the enemies and bosses suck ass and it isn't even the best DMC game? The Vergil boss fights carry this game hard.
How can people say this is the best action game ever when the majority of the enemies and bosses suck ass and it isn't even the best DMC game?
>bosses
best in the series
>enemies
simple but threatening unlike 95% of the enemies in 4, 5 and deboot
also
>best difficulty
>best story
>best ranking system
>no dogshit characters shoved down ur throat to play as
>best difficulty
Is this a shitpost? DMD mode is pure anti-fun garbage.
>inb4 git gud
>why is a hard mode actually hard!!!
DMCVck sisters...
I only care about fun and DMD in 3 isn’t fun.
If you know the answer why did you bother “pretending” to be retarded?
NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT GIVE ENEMIES HIGH JP TO ENCOURAGE EFFICIENT GAMEPLAY I WANNA DO GAY FAIRY DANCING AND LOVETAP JUGGLING NOOOOO
Pigeonholing the gameplay is not fun. 3 on DMD isn’t even the same game.
You don't HAVE to use DTE. Its only a pigeonhole if you make it one
>best in the series
>Gigapede
>Geryon
>Arkham
>Doppelganger
>Gigapede
decent
>Geryon
good
>Arkham
Nightmare but better
>Doppelganger
Good gimmick
>Gigapede
>decent
I mean he's better than like 90% of DMCV's bosses.
>better presentation
>dont have to fight him thrice
>is an actual fight instead of a glorified simon says
>has a neat offline coop mechanic
>DMC''V''
Yep, it's bait
>bait
How come? That's how capcom refers to the game.
>Arkham
>Nightmare but better
please be bait
>Arkham
>Nightmare but better
Nice bait
Gigapede is basically a miniboss and for what it is its fine, and doppelganger is a fun fight, only Geryon and Arkham are bad.
>Gigapede is basically a miniboss and for what it is its fine,
>Gigapede
>Fine
No.
Okay, whats so bad about it? The challenge to jump on top of it isnt really that difficult especially on repeat playthroughs and ripping it to shreds with Cerberus is satisfying. doesn't have a lot of depth but like I said its effectively a miniboss and the fight never lasts super long.
>Lets make a boss that's completely counter to what DMC is all about
That's why its bad
What is DMC all about? Don't say something stupid like combos
It's about family. If Dante wasn't chasing down Vergil then he'd be depressed and have nothing to live for.
No one's ever really gone
Not him but what makes DMC good is its interactive and open-ended combat. It's what distinguishes from other action games where you're only meant to complete a challenge and there's often one preferred way to do it.
Gigapede has very little of that. The only thing you can do to affect it is hit its head so it will go faster. It flies in set positions, there's no real way to interrupt its attacks and it spends a lot of the fight not being in the arena at all.
Compare that to something like being able to make Beowulf flinch by hitting his eye whenever you want, or being able to disarm A&R, make them hit each other, or kill them at the same time so they won't enter their second phase. Even Leviathan's heart gives you some options on what organ you want to hit, how you'll deal with the mobs and if you'll damage the heart from up close or far away. The best fights in DMC are very interactive and have many ways to go about them.
It's like a sandbox of blocks. In other action games you gotta fit the blocks in rigid slots......in DMC3+ you just get to fit the blocks in whatever slot no biggie. The key is experiementation in which blocks can go where and why you should use the square instead of triangle.
Sorta agree, you can hit its head or reflect it's projectiles, and while I agree that the best dmc fights have depth through interactivity, I don't see anything so bad about gigapedes design it's "not fine"
I'm not that Anon, I don't think Gigapede is all that offensive, but it's pretty much just a setpiece, which is kinda boring.
It's objectively not a miniboss though.
Whatever, you beat it in two minutes and it doesn't talk to you or have a big intro cutscene, its effectively a miniboss.
bait
>best enemies
>best bosses
>best difficulty
>best story
>best ranking system
all belong to dmc5 unironically
>no dogshit characters shoved down ur throat to play as
shame about V but dante, nero, and vergil all play better than 3 dante
So fucking wrong.
not an argument sweeties
No. I can't even began to say how wrong you are
>>best enemies
in what world garbage like qlipoth roots and empusas are good?
>>best bosses
The good ones were done better in older games, the bad ones are the worst in the series
>>best difficulty
It's just SoS with DT.
>>best ranking system
>nothing matters except style points
>can be cheesed with faust
>encouraged to skip fights
>no SS ranks
>S ranks are easy except for like 2 missions
in what world are garbage like enigmas, chessmen, bloodgoyles, arachne, dullahans, soul eaters, and fallen good?
Dullahans are the only bad enemies in the list.
I much prefer the more chill mission ranking system in DMC5. After playing a bunch of Platinum's games I could not be more fucking sick of the turbo autistic sweaty shit you have to do get the highest rank, Fuck having to reload just because I got hit once. Fuck being forced to do the gay gimmick secret missions where I have to enemy step a gorillion times without hitting the floor. The point of these games is do some cool combos. That's all there should be to it
DMC5 has the best rankings in the genre because it's the only game where you get bonuses by getting the requirements instead of needing to meet them. The only issue is that that doesn't extend to things like completing all encounters or doing secret missions, so there's very little that compels you to do the missions in their entirety.
The no damage bonus is also shockingly low for how much skill it generally takes to pull off. A shame, but I guess it's one way to discourage sitting in a corner and spamming double bazookas or whatever for the whole mission
Well no damage stacks with no continues, at least from what I know, so it's basically guaranteed to give you an S even if all you did was shoot in a corner.
What even is the point of ranks if they're piss easy to obtain?... And if you care only about combos you have the void.
>What even is the point of ranks if they're piss easy to obtain?
This implies a good player and a bad player would get the same rank, which they don't. The good player will always have better ranks.
You already agreed that S ranking is piss easy in DMC 5.
The difference in score between beating every encounter with S and not getting damage and just S is at least twice that between S and D. S rank alone is only beating the mission at a satisfactory level.
Never overestimate casuals, I guarantee you the drooling hordes probably got mostly Cs
But at any rate, the point of the ranking system should be to encourage you to get better at the game, which is not a good reason to subject you to the Chinese water torture of reloading your save every single time you take damage. DMC is fun and mechanically interesting enough to the point where it doesn't even really need a mission ranking system to encourage the player to get better. It's kind of its own reward. So all that needs to happen is we get provided a framework of how to get better, and that's simply getting more style points, as it always has been. Having to fuck around collecting red orbs or doing dumbass speedrun shortcuts doesn't make you better at the core gameplay, so why should the game grade you on it?
:>Having to fuck around collecting red orbs or doing dumbass speedrun shortcuts doesn't make you better at the core gameplay, so why should the game grade you on it?
So what you want is a glorified bloody palace?
That is kinda what the main story of every DMC game already is, yes
I liked when I was playing Resident Evil the campaign was just Mercenaries.
>>best difficulty
this is a lie. DMD fucking SUCKS. you cant even use devil trigger LIKE A DEVIL TRIGGER you constantly have to charge it to do consistent damage. everything takes WAY to long to kill.
Then maybe dont let enemies enter DT mode? Fucking retard.
DT mode isnt the problem, the problem is that they enter it too quickly and their base health is WAY to high.
God Hand is the best action game ever. Adn while DMC3 may not be the best DMC, 5 is mechanically the peak of combat.
God tier taste wirh King's Field 4 there. How recently did you play it?
Sometimes last year. King's Field 1 is better but 4 makes me look more based.
what's doom hand
God Hand mod for Doom
DMC3 is more than a combo sim. That's why its the best one
sneed chuck's suck and fuck
sneed chuck's suck and fuck
DMC5 has the best combat but DMC3 is the best as a complete package. The presentation in particular really elevates it, the cutscene direction and soundtrack are some of the best in games in general.
I’ll concede on half the bosses but you’re wrong about everything else
Truth is most of these “character action games” (gross meaningless term but whatever) have a lot of imperfections. There’s a ton of room for them to be better but DMC and Bayo are the only remotely mainstream games in the genre
>Bayo 1 highway level
bayonetta highway level is pretty good outside of the motorcycle part going too long. i feel like the only major imperfections with that game are the camera getting stuck in walls and the secret missions being awful
DMC3 > the rest of DMC
KH2FM > DMC3. Larxene is already bette
R than Vergil 3
The real redpill, which no one wants to accept, is that DMC 2 unironically had better level design than DMC 3.
That means that out of the franchise only DMC1 & 2 have good levels.
because you touch yourself at night
It has the best of DMC 1 and 2 while setting the foundation for 4 and 5 it's the perfect middle point
>How can people say this is the best action game ever when the majority of the enemies and bosses suck ass and it isn't even the best DMC game? The Vergil boss fights carry this game hard.
Yes, the enemies and bosses aren't the best but you don't play DMC for that, if you want to have good battles you should play Dark Souls, Ninja Gaiden or Fighing Games
This, every DMC game is better than the last one except 2 and DmC
>Ninja Gayden
tbh Ninja Gaiden sucks most of the time but when it's good it's very good, learning to fight the ninjas in NGB are very cool
what is this trying to convey? that you can dodge and then hit them back? you can do this in any damn game. god webm gays are so retarded
the only good bosses in DMC3 are A&R, Beo, and Vergil 2+3
DMC5 completely mogs it in that department
t. boomer that bought DMC2 at launch
Sex with Lady
>not playable in 3 or 5
>Itsuno said that after finishing DMC3, they originally really wanted to make a spin-off game for Lady that would have taken place immediately after the ending
>Lady was going to make phone calls to Dante throughout the game asking how he was doing and asking him for personal advice at the end of the game
>Years later this idea was used in DMC5 with Nero making a phone call to Kyrie
>Capcom shut down their plans and told them to work on DMC4 for PS3 instead
Fuck
>Lady was going to make phone calls to Dante throughout the game asking how he was doing and asking him for personal advice at the end of the game
Is there a source on this? I know Itsuno brought up the idea of a Lady spinoff around DMC4's release, but never anything in terms of actual details about it.
For adults, it's Ninja Gaiden Black, the best action game.
MGR and DMC are both ruined by cringey unfunny weebshit """humor""'" for retards who watch shonen anime.
DMC is teenshit while NG can actually be enjoyed by adults and non-autistics.
Other teenshit games to avoid: God Hand, No More Heroes, Yakuza.
DMC3 Vergil last is the action game nirvana.
Trickster and Royal guard are incredibly rewarding.
Difficulty swings like crazy unless you completionist challenges.
Story, characters, and music is all anime tier trash, but japs are the only ones making this stuff.
DMC3 is incredibly overrated, but it's a great game.
So DMC3 is In uTero?
DmC > 1 > 4 > 5 > 2 > 3
DMC3 Dante is the Dante I find most appealing, simple as
>Nevan
>Hold Left+spam Triangle
It's just that EZ.
Hope Nathan Fillian voices Dante in the remake.
>remake
??
They're gonna remake 3 first and call it DMC1
Maybe they didn't play Ninja Gaiden
NG is shit and you are a fucking moron
filtered
stop being a stupid retard
go play totk it's a game specifically made for retards like you
I feel like Gigapede exists just for you to accidentally find out that you can reflect projectiles with attacks
>the majority of the enemies and bosses suck ass
That's every single DMC. The game's are all about you mashing buttons to do cuhrazzy combos and the enemies are just there to witness it.
Three words
Nelo Angelo DT