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I watch like 5 anime a season minimum and still haven't watched it. I know I need to. It's apparently really based I just have other shit I need to catch up on first.
>HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT SEASONAL ANIME ON Ganker
reminder that Ganker revolves around Ganker, always has always will. only Gankergays get upset when you post anime on this site.
this
mmos used to be largely community driven instead of content driven
new world was unironically the closest attempt in recent memory despite the game being derailed early on by rampant bug exploitation
This is one of the reasons why Eve Online is still kicking, they provided a platform for communities to form and impact the game. That and it's a true MMO instead of an instanced theme park masquerading as one.
making a game that satisfies constantly shifting social needs of it's community, has proper endgame content, is profitable and somehow resistant to the speed at which the information is passed around it on the internet is probably impossible, so give up
every single modern multiplayer game is live service and has a battle pass which MMOs now have to compete with the time of players to be their main game rather than just other MMOs. The riot MMO just got scrapped and revamped, it will be a f2p live service game with a battle pass which looks nothing like WOW style mmos the rpg part will probably be diminished
The value proposition of the MMO is "interact with strangers online" and people know what that's like by now and how generally shit it is.
Also there's better skinnerboxes now. f2p live service competitive games with battle passes, gacha, etc take a lot of the potential market.
There's not a single MMO with the following components >hot and cute girls >manly men >appealing, high visibility graphics >smooth, bug free gameplay >engaging combat >solid UI/UX >decent pricing system, no MTX >good worldbuilding >easy to understand, no overwhelming the player with a million systems
I think they're all pretty self explanatory but I'd like to say something about graphics. It's not just looking good. They need to be appealing. MMOs may have realistic graphics, but they all end up looking generic as shit. They can't be generic, they have to be appealing because MMOs by definition are games that you play for hours. I can't stress this point enough. MMOs look like bland, generic shit with very few exceptions.
This isn't as bad, but it's still flat, generic, boring
WoW has amazing graphics, not in the sense of fidelity, realism and detail of course. But people still talk about their favorite zones.
WoW is still the only MMO with all those characteristics.
Korean MMOs in general tend to have cute girls and hunky men, and solid combat, but everything else is a shitshow.
>There's not a single MMO with the following components >WoW is still the only MMO with all those characteristics.
Which one is it moron bro?
also >Hot and cute girls
if you are into pixar style sure?
but that niche is already filled out by GW2 and XIV >Manly man
yeah wow has that, osrs has that, debatably xiv >appealing, high visibility graphics
wow literally had visibilty problems and the disneyification of graphics controversy.
But yeah I don't know any mmo with good graphics, only artstyle >smooth bug free gameplay
LMFAO HEARTHSTONE EVENT DIDN'T EVEN FRICKING WORK YOU moron
From what I heard xiv is like relatively bug free with some connection issues >engaging combat
tab target mmos were never engaging.
Vindictus and BDO clears any other mmo >solid ui/ux
it's customizable in every mmo so that point is weird >decent pricing system, no mtx
wow token? in-game store with shitty mounts and mogs?
No mmo does has that sadly >good worldbuilding
warcraft had amazing world building with shit story, wow has shit world building with shit story
dunno which mmos have that.
xiv is a visual novel and GW2 is a soap opera >easy to understand, no overwhelming the player with a million systems
wow requires you to drop every other game to learn it for atleast 2-3 months with youtube guides, addon guides and daily wowhead scrolls.
IMO ESO has the best easy to understand systems
>Which one is it moron bro?
There's not a single MMO with the following components
That isn't WoW, obviously
>wow literally had visibilty problems and the disneyification of graphics controversy.
Modern WoW has visibility problems, and modern WoW isn't even a shadow of its former self. >LMFAO HEARTHSTONE EVENT DIDN'T EVEN FRICKING WORK YOU moron
I don't even know what that is, but WoW is the smoothest MMO there is. I don't care about a single niche event. If you ask pretty much anyone who played the game will agree that WoW has butter smooth gameplay and pretty much no bugs.
>tab target mmos were never engaging.
Opinion. Plenty of people love WoW combat.
>Vindictus and BDO clears any other mmo
I already said that Korean MMOs have good combat and characters, but shit everything else.
>it's customizable in every mmo so that point is weird
Korean MMOs in particular have terrible UI and UX. They're disgustingly bad.
>wow token? in-game store with shitty mounts and mogs?
Yes, modern retail WoW is a mess. And look at their shitty numbers, if anything it proves my point. I'm defending peak WoW (anything up to Wrath)
>wow has shit world building with shit story
WoW has AMAZING world building, at least up to Wrath and even then, the world and the zones were always a strong point
Even now, people who don't play retail agree that the world looks pretty and unique
>wow requires you to drop every other game to learn it for atleast 2-3 months with youtube guides, addon guides and daily wowhead scrolls.
True of modern retail WoW. And again, their numbers are pathetic.
wow was all of these things at one point besides no mtx. I think its pretty easy to understand as a dps player too, and learning as you go is how most people learn anyway. I also think wow is the best game ever made btw
still fricking mad they outsourced wc3 re to asiatics. they literally already had perfect modernized wc3 designs in HotS and could've just extrapolated from there
Don't frick with me, the premise gives them an instant fix for the stagnation all these shows run into, you can have characters complete their arc and die off while the elf exists and a constant across eras.
Don't fricking introduce this concept then immediate slow the timescale back down to normal what the frick are you doing?
I'll throw you an audio/book recommend called Minla's Flower, about a passing space traveler taking an interest in helping a doomed no-where planet population over the course of a few generations. It's nothing to him, but everything to the population, and the girl he meets as a child and out lives. It will give you a character arc, at least. Scratch an itch maybe thinking about long living.
The point of the show is that Frieren is realizing how to make meaningful connection with people that inevitably will not outlast her. There's absolutely a good show where it spans Frieren over the ages but it's going to be a lot less meaningful for the audience if the character churns and burns through tons of people over vast amounts of time without any seeming effect upon her. What we have is someone who is already ancient realizing that despite having infinite time, it's still an exceptionally valuable and precious resource.
The implied thing is that time feels to flow way slower for Frieren when she's around humans, you'll have to wait for a moment when the team gets separated for more than a week, which the elf will suddenly realise that this "week" was actually several decades when she reunites with the team.
It's more that she is deliberately paying more attention now that she's experienced death of a loved one. She could still zone out for a decade because she's autistic but she at least understands what that actually means now.
the last 10 episodes are a shounen magical tournament arc where a bunch of shounen characters stand around talking about how cool their special magical ability is.
More sexy alexstrasza, more sexy tyrande, more sexy liadrin, more sexy thalyssra, more sex vareesa, more sexy yrel, kill sylvanas and jaina permanently off screen
I hate playing with EU homosexuals they have no banter compare to Na bros, I am EU btw, just wish they didn't ruin the single server and keep the CTAs all over the clock.
Literally all a MMO dev has to do is copy Albion, every single thing including the Megaserver idea and make the combat WoW style or Monster Hunter style and it will print money. The only bad thing about Albion is the dogshit MOBA gameplay.
Devs are too stupid to do that, imagine if wow was sandbox like Albion, grear being crafted from the resources you find etc. Mass ZVZ to defend cities from horde? Guild leagues like albion...
WoW has too much player-bound power and nothing to balance uneven fights. The players at the top would stay there forever and dunk on everyone. The slightest power difference makes you immortal in that game.
There are way too many skills. PvP is completely one-sided. You just faceroll your keyboard and stat-check to victory. It's also a visual clusterfrick if a fight has more than three participants.
It wouldn't work without a complete overhaul in favor of PvP.
Meanwhile in Albion you have five abilities, long cooldowns and a sprint. During ZvZ with hundreds of players you are basically reduced to your E spell.
albion online es un mmorpg no lineal en el que escribes tu propia historia sin limitarte a seguir un camino prefijado, explora un amplio mundo abierto con cinco biomas unicos, todo cuanto hagas tendra su repercusíon en el mundo, con su economia orientada al jugador de albion los jugadores crean practicamente todo el equipo a partir de los recursos que consiguen, el equipo que llevas define quien eres, cambia de arma y armadura para pasar de caballero a mago o juego como una mezcla de ambas clases, aventurate en el mundo abierto y haz frente a los habitantes y las criaturas de albion, inicia expediciones o adentrate en mazmorras en las que encontraras enemigos aun mas dificiles, enfrentate a otros jugadores en encuentros en el mundo abierto, lucha por los territorios o por ciudades enteras en batallas tacticas, relajate en tu isla privada donde podras construir un hogar, cultivar cosechas, criar animales, unete a un gremio, todo es mejor cuando se trabaja en grupo [musica] adentrate ya en el mundo de albion y escribe tu propia historia.
you cant, its a catch 22 genre in that it needs to be a forever game but forever games fricking suck. If someone no lifes a game for a couple years they're going to want all their shit dragged forward for the next 20 which stifles creativity more than it already is.
I can't get into MMO anymore. >Pointless fetchquest that just involves you running around wasting your time >nobody interact with anybody anymore >System is designed around you being able to play by yourself without ever interacting or chatting with anybody at all >System is designed around making your spend money >FOMO events that once you missed it, it's gone forever
It's just too much to ask for, and I'm not ready to invest huge chunk of my time in a game designed around keeping me hostages.
It's crazy to me that if copycat MMO's to old WoW or FFXI/1.0 XIV came out today with minor improvements they'd sell gangbusters with how starved everyone is for a new good one, the early 2000's were just way too oversaturated. XIV Classic when?
>How can we save the MMORPG genre
just make a vanilla wow, FFXI or EQ velious clone instead of yet another retail wow and FF14 single player mmo. it's not that hard
I honestly liked wakfu more purely because of the enviromental things you can do in the enviroment & less janky animations. THOUGH then you have Waven wich is way less MMO and nowhere as good but the faster animations and the pick up and play nature of it means its arguably more accesible if not as complex.
The character design is pure sexo tough.
>no game for the biggest anime of the season >not even mobile slop
The absolute state of anime in the 20's. If this shit dropped just five years ago, it would have already had a gacha game before it even came out. By this time, there would've been a shitty arena fighter announced.
Keep seeing this anime referenced but haven't watched it. Is this "Fern" mage girl like Bocchi, a character proposed to have large breasts but doesn't actually have them and it's all just a fanart gag like Hex Maniac?
Fanart of course exaggerates the size to make wieners throb and leak profusely but she does have big breast in-universe too. The second biggest set of breasts we've seen so far actually. Also Bocchi does have big breasts in the manga, she just got nerfed in the anime.
For your average jap girl, but Japan is aware of big breasts you can tell their best huge titty animators like Takagi Jun have probably paid slavic prostitutes with cow breasts and studied their movements.
>Takagi Jun have probably paid slavic prostitutes
sounds like bullshit provide sauce along with more slavic cows
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Takagi Jun brought you Manyuu, Seiko No Quesar and a bunch of other titty anime from the 2010s.
His animation style is very good at capturing big breasts even if the jiggle is unrealistic at times.
A man has to observe a lot of big breasts to get it that good, he clearly has experience.
also WoW, GW2, and FF14 are the only ones that exist apparently. morons will say they want a new mmo but b***h if it isnt exactly like these three. They say they want a huge open world but just want to hound in arena all day. Its pointless to make a mmo for the western market
It makes worthless NEETs feel like they have a job or purpose in life. Logging in and doing all that mindless bullshit every day actually feels like work to them. If you are employed or really just doing anything else with your life, you won't understand and most likely won't be able to get into it.
Well the spirit of MMOs is conceptually something that hasn't gone away as evident by the frick load of Isekai anime that actually take place IN MMOs.
Since the days of the original Tron movie or Star Trek's Holodeck people have wanted to LARP in a simulation of a fantasy world and pretend to be heroes saving the land.
MMOs were an attempt for videogames to reach that emersion by allowing a massive amount of people play in a single game world instance and have a good portion of the experience depend on their interaction. Such a feat came at the cost of gameplay available to single-players at the time, so RPGs mechanics built around latency became the framework(what's known as "Tab targeter" hotkey gameplay) until MMOs like Lineage pushed the boundaries with things like "action combat". A lot of the enjoyment from MMOs came from that community interaction.
At their peak MMOs provided things taken for granted these days, such as seamless communications networks. There wasn't discord, skype or any of that shit and people used shit like Ventrillo or Teamspeak to establish voice communication. Once Skype, Discord and others launched and integrated their own "communities" but with EVERY game, MMOs lost their edge.
MMO's also ran into a problem of trying to keep people playing them, perpetually underestimating no-lifers. This led to unsavory "daily" mechanics and gear treadmills. Then the ASShomosexualS was created and crunched the entire MMO experience into an hour long match all whilst koreans realized how to milk their MMO addicts using methods you zoomers are familiar with today in Gacha. Together they killed the MMO.
What? It's just supposed to be a live service character progression game. People have this warped perception that it's some social hub with fantasy themed avatars
You don't need it but it is and always will be a major draw.
That was the contributing factor to their popularity, bad consumer practices and failing to improve on this draw killed it.
It's a similair failure to VR, built on a yet reachable premise.
You could still make games with MMO like playercounts, they don't have the same effect as MOBAS proved.
is not dungeon meshi about food only? it is boring
I don't know but when i saw shorts about the party eating insect and other ugly creatures i couldn't watch it. Don't know who's the audiencie for that stuff. Vore gays?
I don't know what dungeon meshi is, but vinland saga failed because the protagonist is an insufferable butthole, and the only good character was killed in season 1.
>the protagonist is an insufferable butthole
I only know about the "i have no enemies" thing and the author being a massive pretentious moron , what did Thorfinn do?
Round-based MMORPGs with a set start and end date. Make it so players can actually beat the game, reach the top and then try again next server wipe. Have some cool endgame event that you spend all your playthrough preparing for.
Aimlessly grinding forever isn't fun. Something like Foxhole but as a classic MMORPG.
Why save it?
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star wars galaxies 2
I think a SWG2 would actually be successful right now
a lot of streamers would pretend to be hyped for it
Why do autistic people keep spamming threads about shitty fotm anime on a video game board?
my husband is so cool
Shut up vegeta
let people enjoy things?
No.
You aren't any better than them, moron. You idiots spam dbz threads on Ganker all the time.
at least DBZ has games
It's been 6 months, dude. At some point you have to admit that it's not a fotm anymore.
>it's been as long as the show has been airing
mental moronation or bait
call it
Kek. DBZ fan thinks he has any room to shit talk anime
anime website
>this is my safespace!
poor weeb
no, that's Ganker anon
this is Ganker
same website
just let weebs enjoy things chudley
I watch like 5 anime a season minimum and still haven't watched it. I know I need to. It's apparently really based I just have other shit I need to catch up on first.
>Watching comfy fantasy animu
>It suddenly gets a DBZ tournament arc out of nowhere
I must admit, I didn't see that one coming.
Yu Yu Hakusho did this to me. Started as a spirit detective anime, then BOOM, tournament saga. Frickin' good one tho
indonesians
I'll take frieren over that troony from bleach any day of the week
The anime follows vidya dungeon crawler rules so the audience is shared. Frieren game when? I'd even be happy with a cheap GBC game
wtf? that kid was still alive in the manga. why did they change it?
don't remember who the grave is for but he's still alive in the anime, he's a grandpa that chats with them
>flavour of the month anime
>HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT SEASONAL ANIME ON Ganker
reminder that Ganker revolves around Ganker, always has always will. only Gankergays get upset when you post anime on this site.
it's an anime website you dumb Black person
You literally can't. A MMO is as good as the players and most players are Millennials and Zoomers.
this
mmos used to be largely community driven instead of content driven
new world was unironically the closest attempt in recent memory despite the game being derailed early on by rampant bug exploitation
This is one of the reasons why Eve Online is still kicking, they provided a platform for communities to form and impact the game. That and it's a true MMO instead of an instanced theme park masquerading as one.
big breasts and cute butts
making a game that satisfies constantly shifting social needs of it's community, has proper endgame content, is profitable and somehow resistant to the speed at which the information is passed around it on the internet is probably impossible, so give up
Wrong board
see
every single modern multiplayer game is live service and has a battle pass which MMOs now have to compete with the time of players to be their main game rather than just other MMOs. The riot MMO just got scrapped and revamped, it will be a f2p live service game with a battle pass which looks nothing like WOW style mmos the rpg part will probably be diminished
literally impossible and your thread proves why
you are a weeb normalgay moron and you are interested in games you don't like, you are at least 40% of the wow playerbase
>Fern
I'm starting to get it Architectgays
The value proposition of the MMO is "interact with strangers online" and people know what that's like by now and how generally shit it is.
Also there's better skinnerboxes now. f2p live service competitive games with battle passes, gacha, etc take a lot of the potential market.
Weighted action combat, physics driven. Something like Dragons Dogma Online but actually done with a budget.
There's not a single MMO with the following components
>hot and cute girls
>manly men
>appealing, high visibility graphics
>smooth, bug free gameplay
>engaging combat
>solid UI/UX
>decent pricing system, no MTX
>good worldbuilding
>easy to understand, no overwhelming the player with a million systems
I think they're all pretty self explanatory but I'd like to say something about graphics. It's not just looking good. They need to be appealing. MMOs may have realistic graphics, but they all end up looking generic as shit. They can't be generic, they have to be appealing because MMOs by definition are games that you play for hours. I can't stress this point enough. MMOs look like bland, generic shit with very few exceptions.
This isn't as bad, but it's still flat, generic, boring
WoW has amazing graphics, not in the sense of fidelity, realism and detail of course. But people still talk about their favorite zones.
WoW is still the only MMO with all those characteristics.
Korean MMOs in general tend to have cute girls and hunky men, and solid combat, but everything else is a shitshow.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
>There's not a single MMO with the following components
>WoW is still the only MMO with all those characteristics.
Which one is it moron bro?
also
>Hot and cute girls
if you are into pixar style sure?
but that niche is already filled out by GW2 and XIV
>Manly man
yeah wow has that, osrs has that, debatably xiv
>appealing, high visibility graphics
wow literally had visibilty problems and the disneyification of graphics controversy.
But yeah I don't know any mmo with good graphics, only artstyle
>smooth bug free gameplay
LMFAO HEARTHSTONE EVENT DIDN'T EVEN FRICKING WORK YOU moron
From what I heard xiv is like relatively bug free with some connection issues
>engaging combat
tab target mmos were never engaging.
Vindictus and BDO clears any other mmo
>solid ui/ux
it's customizable in every mmo so that point is weird
>decent pricing system, no mtx
wow token? in-game store with shitty mounts and mogs?
No mmo does has that sadly
>good worldbuilding
warcraft had amazing world building with shit story, wow has shit world building with shit story
dunno which mmos have that.
xiv is a visual novel and GW2 is a soap opera
>easy to understand, no overwhelming the player with a million systems
wow requires you to drop every other game to learn it for atleast 2-3 months with youtube guides, addon guides and daily wowhead scrolls.
IMO ESO has the best easy to understand systems
>Which one is it moron bro?
There's not a single MMO with the following components
That isn't WoW, obviously
>wow literally had visibilty problems and the disneyification of graphics controversy.
Modern WoW has visibility problems, and modern WoW isn't even a shadow of its former self.
>LMFAO HEARTHSTONE EVENT DIDN'T EVEN FRICKING WORK YOU moron
I don't even know what that is, but WoW is the smoothest MMO there is. I don't care about a single niche event. If you ask pretty much anyone who played the game will agree that WoW has butter smooth gameplay and pretty much no bugs.
>tab target mmos were never engaging.
Opinion. Plenty of people love WoW combat.
>Vindictus and BDO clears any other mmo
I already said that Korean MMOs have good combat and characters, but shit everything else.
>it's customizable in every mmo so that point is weird
Korean MMOs in particular have terrible UI and UX. They're disgustingly bad.
>wow token? in-game store with shitty mounts and mogs?
Yes, modern retail WoW is a mess. And look at their shitty numbers, if anything it proves my point. I'm defending peak WoW (anything up to Wrath)
>wow has shit world building with shit story
WoW has AMAZING world building, at least up to Wrath and even then, the world and the zones were always a strong point
Even now, people who don't play retail agree that the world looks pretty and unique
>wow requires you to drop every other game to learn it for atleast 2-3 months with youtube guides, addon guides and daily wowhead scrolls.
True of modern retail WoW. And again, their numbers are pathetic.
>WoW has AMAZING world building
wow was all of these things at one point besides no mtx. I think its pretty easy to understand as a dps player too, and learning as you go is how most people learn anyway. I also think wow is the best game ever made btw
still fricking mad they outsourced wc3 re to asiatics. they literally already had perfect modernized wc3 designs in HotS and could've just extrapolated from there
I just saw that Cronous shutdown a few years ago... rip my favorite mmo Diablo clone
I just started watching Frieren, please tell me the creators have balls and Fern dies of old age before the first season ends.
>anime
>any competant writing past the premise
You silly willy.
Don't frick with me, the premise gives them an instant fix for the stagnation all these shows run into, you can have characters complete their arc and die off while the elf exists and a constant across eras.
Don't fricking introduce this concept then immediate slow the timescale back down to normal what the frick are you doing?
Oh nonononononono...
What a waste of a show, I'm pretty disappointed.
I'll throw you an audio/book recommend called Minla's Flower, about a passing space traveler taking an interest in helping a doomed no-where planet population over the course of a few generations. It's nothing to him, but everything to the population, and the girl he meets as a child and out lives. It will give you a character arc, at least. Scratch an itch maybe thinking about long living.
The point of the show is that Frieren is realizing how to make meaningful connection with people that inevitably will not outlast her. There's absolutely a good show where it spans Frieren over the ages but it's going to be a lot less meaningful for the audience if the character churns and burns through tons of people over vast amounts of time without any seeming effect upon her. What we have is someone who is already ancient realizing that despite having infinite time, it's still an exceptionally valuable and precious resource.
japanese are dumb writing
no that would have been too kino. I was hoping Frieren would grapple more with her near immortality but mostly she just doesn't care
The implied thing is that time feels to flow way slower for Frieren when she's around humans, you'll have to wait for a moment when the team gets separated for more than a week, which the elf will suddenly realise that this "week" was actually several decades when she reunites with the team.
It's more that she is deliberately paying more attention now that she's experienced death of a loved one. She could still zone out for a decade because she's autistic but she at least understands what that actually means now.
the last 10 episodes are a shounen magical tournament arc where a bunch of shounen characters stand around talking about how cool their special magical ability is.
More sexy alexstrasza, more sexy tyrande, more sexy liadrin, more sexy thalyssra, more sex vareesa, more sexy yrel, kill sylvanas and jaina permanently off screen
Here's my list of demands for WoW.
?t=22
This game was comfy until they split servers into asia europe and na.
Better ping and in-game timers for EU players. I can finally join a guild and participate in events without having to play at 3am.
I hate playing with EU homosexuals they have no banter compare to Na bros, I am EU btw, just wish they didn't ruin the single server and keep the CTAs all over the clock.
Literally all a MMO dev has to do is copy Albion, every single thing including the Megaserver idea and make the combat WoW style or Monster Hunter style and it will print money. The only bad thing about Albion is the dogshit MOBA gameplay.
Devs are too stupid to do that, imagine if wow was sandbox like Albion, grear being crafted from the resources you find etc. Mass ZVZ to defend cities from horde? Guild leagues like albion...
WoW PvP is ass compared to Albion. WoW is a PvE game.
The pvp they have now but imagine if wow had mass scale city defend or zone like albion?
WoW has too much player-bound power and nothing to balance uneven fights. The players at the top would stay there forever and dunk on everyone. The slightest power difference makes you immortal in that game.
There are way too many skills. PvP is completely one-sided. You just faceroll your keyboard and stat-check to victory. It's also a visual clusterfrick if a fight has more than three participants.
It wouldn't work without a complete overhaul in favor of PvP.
Meanwhile in Albion you have five abilities, long cooldowns and a sprint. During ZvZ with hundreds of players you are basically reduced to your E spell.
albion online es un mmorpg no lineal en el que escribes tu propia historia sin limitarte a seguir un camino prefijado, explora un amplio mundo abierto con cinco biomas unicos, todo cuanto hagas tendra su repercusíon en el mundo, con su economia orientada al jugador de albion los jugadores crean practicamente todo el equipo a partir de los recursos que consiguen, el equipo que llevas define quien eres, cambia de arma y armadura para pasar de caballero a mago o juego como una mezcla de ambas clases, aventurate en el mundo abierto y haz frente a los habitantes y las criaturas de albion, inicia expediciones o adentrate en mazmorras en las que encontraras enemigos aun mas dificiles, enfrentate a otros jugadores en encuentros en el mundo abierto, lucha por los territorios o por ciudades enteras en batallas tacticas, relajate en tu isla privada donde podras construir un hogar, cultivar cosechas, criar animales, unete a un gremio, todo es mejor cuando se trabaja en grupo [musica] adentrate ya en el mundo de albion y escribe tu propia historia.
Speak English, Black person mongrel Hispanic.
>spic
actually that's a spaniard copy paste
Only let straight white males play who speak English. Make them a safe space.
>sousou no reddit
I liked Undead Unluck far more then Frieren and wish there was a fighting game for it.
it started out great but too much recaps and flashbacks
just skip them and you got a 9/10 show
>that time they made such a cool frame that they did FIVE flashbacks to it in the next episode
Shit was tight but cmon man
you cant, its a catch 22 genre in that it needs to be a forever game but forever games fricking suck. If someone no lifes a game for a couple years they're going to want all their shit dragged forward for the next 20 which stifles creativity more than it already is.
Make one that has better systems than every single one out now.
I can't get into MMO anymore.
>Pointless fetchquest that just involves you running around wasting your time
>nobody interact with anybody anymore
>System is designed around you being able to play by yourself without ever interacting or chatting with anybody at all
>System is designed around making your spend money
>FOMO events that once you missed it, it's gone forever
It's just too much to ask for, and I'm not ready to invest huge chunk of my time in a game designed around keeping me hostages.
It's crazy to me that if copycat MMO's to old WoW or FFXI/1.0 XIV came out today with minor improvements they'd sell gangbusters with how starved everyone is for a new good one, the early 2000's were just way too oversaturated. XIV Classic when?
More lalafell
in 2 months
>How can we save the MMORPG genre
just make a vanilla wow, FFXI or EQ velious clone instead of yet another retail wow and FF14 single player mmo. it's not that hard
>native isekai
just double the estrogen dose already
Nobody said that. Are you okay?
>troonyren
How did the French manage to make the best MMORPG?
>best
>failed to get any traction in the west outside of that one porn animation
Thoughever kind of crazy it's still going in france
Dofus Unity will save it in the West!
>France is not the West
MERDE
Its not only popular in france but also ankama is somewhat goverment backed & used as a platform to foment french made media.
I honestly liked wakfu more purely because of the enviromental things you can do in the enviroment & less janky animations. THOUGH then you have Waven wich is way less MMO and nowhere as good but the faster animations and the pick up and play nature of it means its arguably more accesible if not as complex.
The character design is pure sexo tough.
By not rewarding them with your sub money when they frick up
>no game for the biggest anime of the season
>not even mobile slop
The absolute state of anime in the 20's. If this shit dropped just five years ago, it would have already had a gacha game before it even came out. By this time, there would've been a shitty arena fighter announced.
Top:
>perfect balance between semi-realistic features and cuteness
Bottom:
>literal moeshit
Frieren's artstyle is aesthetically pleasing
Isn't the Bocchi manga a literal 4koma?
What is a 4koma?
Some weeb shit idk
ligma balls
I'm hijacking your tranime thread
Can I skip Warcraft 1 and 2 and just go straight to 3?
yeah
how old are you, genuine question. My mind cannot fathom someone who has not played WC3
23
I just never had interest in RTS until recently
fern is a fat
Keep seeing this anime referenced but haven't watched it. Is this "Fern" mage girl like Bocchi, a character proposed to have large breasts but doesn't actually have them and it's all just a fanart gag like Hex Maniac?
Fanart of course exaggerates the size to make wieners throb and leak profusely but she does have big breast in-universe too. The second biggest set of breasts we've seen so far actually. Also Bocchi does have big breasts in the manga, she just got nerfed in the anime.
nah she canonically has huge breasts
That looks like a c cup.
That's "huge"
For your average jap girl, but Japan is aware of big breasts you can tell their best huge titty animators like Takagi Jun have probably paid slavic prostitutes with cow breasts and studied their movements.
It's anime anon, she is hardly big.
>Takagi Jun have probably paid slavic prostitutes
sounds like bullshit provide sauce along with more slavic cows
Takagi Jun brought you Manyuu, Seiko No Quesar and a bunch of other titty anime from the 2010s.
His animation style is very good at capturing big breasts even if the jiggle is unrealistic at times.
A man has to observe a lot of big breasts to get it that good, he clearly has experience.
also WoW, GW2, and FF14 are the only ones that exist apparently. morons will say they want a new mmo but b***h if it isnt exactly like these three. They say they want a huge open world but just want to hound in arena all day. Its pointless to make a mmo for the western market
When both Fern and Stark die? Theres too much showtime wasted wanting you to give a frick about them
What is the appeal of MMOs and MMORPGs? WoW was before my time but every mmo I've ever looked at just didn't seem that appealing
It makes worthless NEETs feel like they have a job or purpose in life. Logging in and doing all that mindless bullshit every day actually feels like work to them. If you are employed or really just doing anything else with your life, you won't understand and most likely won't be able to get into it.
I'm not sure about that. Back when I played everyone on my guild was either in school or college
Well the spirit of MMOs is conceptually something that hasn't gone away as evident by the frick load of Isekai anime that actually take place IN MMOs.
Since the days of the original Tron movie or Star Trek's Holodeck people have wanted to LARP in a simulation of a fantasy world and pretend to be heroes saving the land.
MMOs were an attempt for videogames to reach that emersion by allowing a massive amount of people play in a single game world instance and have a good portion of the experience depend on their interaction. Such a feat came at the cost of gameplay available to single-players at the time, so RPGs mechanics built around latency became the framework(what's known as "Tab targeter" hotkey gameplay) until MMOs like Lineage pushed the boundaries with things like "action combat". A lot of the enjoyment from MMOs came from that community interaction.
At their peak MMOs provided things taken for granted these days, such as seamless communications networks. There wasn't discord, skype or any of that shit and people used shit like Ventrillo or Teamspeak to establish voice communication. Once Skype, Discord and others launched and integrated their own "communities" but with EVERY game, MMOs lost their edge.
MMO's also ran into a problem of trying to keep people playing them, perpetually underestimating no-lifers. This led to unsavory "daily" mechanics and gear treadmills. Then the ASShomosexualS was created and crunched the entire MMO experience into an hour long match all whilst koreans realized how to milk their MMO addicts using methods you zoomers are familiar with today in Gacha. Together they killed the MMO.
What? It's just supposed to be a live service character progression game. People have this warped perception that it's some social hub with fantasy themed avatars
We play videogames both for the problem solving aspect (the game) and the immersive world.
The draw to playing a game in an open world fantasy setting with a lot of other people is a draw. Why else do you think in WoW there were RP servers?
you don't need player interaction for immersion or else every game would be multiplayer. Again, fringe people insist mmos is some fantasy-themed forum
You don't need it but it is and always will be a major draw.
That was the contributing factor to their popularity, bad consumer practices and failing to improve on this draw killed it.
It's a similair failure to VR, built on a yet reachable premise.
You could still make games with MMO like playercounts, they don't have the same effect as MOBAS proved.
where did frieren succeed where other fantasy anime like dungeon meshi and vinland saga failed?
is not dungeon meshi about food only? it is boring
Does he know?
I don't know but when i saw shorts about the party eating insect and other ugly creatures i couldn't watch it. Don't know who's the audiencie for that stuff. Vore gays?
I don't know what dungeon meshi is, but vinland saga failed because the protagonist is an insufferable butthole, and the only good character was killed in season 1.
>the protagonist is an insufferable butthole
I only know about the "i have no enemies" thing and the author being a massive pretentious moron , what did Thorfinn do?
Being an angsty vindictive butthole, and not accepting that Askeladd was a better dad than his own pussy dad ever was.
Vinland Saga isn't fantasy.
Bait
Round-based MMORPGs with a set start and end date. Make it so players can actually beat the game, reach the top and then try again next server wipe. Have some cool endgame event that you spend all your playthrough preparing for.
Aimlessly grinding forever isn't fun. Something like Foxhole but as a classic MMORPG.
>pov:your elf gf asks you "please show me how you jerk off anon"
i love autistic elf girls so much bros
wait for and play monsters and memories?
anyone have that webm of the fern army with AKs and tanks?
I wish I could've played Rift when it launched with the adult brain I have today.