it pretty much is because way too many trainers throw bird, bug, grass, and poison types at you in RB. relying on bulbasaur in those games feels like hacking through a jungle with a plastic bat
>game is about catching all pokemon and use a team of 6 >anon thinks you are supposed to only use 1 pokemon for the entire game
Charizard sucks ass at every gym but 1, and E4 yet people consider him the single strongest pokemon of all time
gyms are like 4% of the game tops, and if you're already talking about using pokemon other than bulbasaur to make up for its problems you're proving my point. charmander don't give a frick bout no birds and bugs and neither does squirtle.
90% of the game is rock/ground/water and guess who rape these?
also, Bulbasaur being part poison makes it immune to poison status which most bug pokemon cause
>90% of the game is rock/ground/water and guess who rape these?
extremely false, but squirtle does without getting raped by everything else >it still has more advantages than Charmander
it might seem that way to someone who hyperfocuses on gym matchups but if you actually spend time playing the games and trying things out you will find charmander shredding through birds, bugs, plants, and rocket teams where bulbasaur isn't. and there's a hell of a lot more of those than gym fights.
6 months ago
Anonymous
the worst thing against Bulbasaur in RBG/FRLG is unironically Zubat/Golbat
Flying types are weak
Fire types are rare
Psychics aren't common either
Ice pokemon are mostly part water
Bug type doesn't have moves
6 months ago
Anonymous
this is why I say you really have to spend time on the ground actually playing the game and not theorizing about it from afar. you're not considering a lot of things that become obvious to you once you actually sit a bulbasaur in front of a bug catcher.
here's what that little moron learns. grass moves do 50% less damage to bug types. is it starting to click yet? jungle. plastic bat.
6 months ago
Anonymous
so I sit there with Leech Seed and stall like a homosexual
6 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, plastic bat, just as I said
you didn't need every move to beat the game >Razor Leaf with its insane 100% critical rate >Body Slam for everything else >Leech Seed/Toxic >Sleep Powder/Toxic
is it optimal? no
but every movepool in Gen1 is garbage
and bulbasaurs is particularly garbage for handling the average trainer battle. and wild pokemon too. birds and bats and bugs and plants fricking everywhere. he doesn't even handle tentacools properly so the water isn't great for him either.
6 months ago
Anonymous
At least Bulbasaur doesn't need 10 potions to beat 1 gym like Jobberzard
6 months ago
Anonymous
you've never used bulbasaur and it shows
6 months ago
Anonymous
you didn't need every move to beat the game >Razor Leaf with its insane 100% critical rate >Body Slam for everything else >Leech Seed/Toxic >Sleep Powder/Toxic
is it optimal? no
but every movepool in Gen1 is garbage
I was thinking about mentioning how much brainlets who actually don't have a lot of on the ground time in red and blue tunnel vision on gym match ups despite them being an extremely small portion of gameplay but I mistakenly thought /vp/ might be better than that.
most of red and blue is hacking through a bunch of trainers throwing birds and koffings and oddishes and ekans at you and bulbasaur just doesn't like it
Gyms are <4% of the game and it doesn't matter if you crit everything when you do 50% and even 25% to lots of the most common trainer pokemon.
you've never used bulbasaur and it shows
We're not talking about FRLG in here buddy. Go load up a red blue rom right now and pick your toad and put on the smug mask over your seething crying face after realizing you will only have normal and grass type moves the entire game.
now let's take a look at the other little moron in question. by level 9 he's already equipped with tools to take on most types you're going to run into.
also worth noting, brocks pokemon don't have a single rock or ground type move. you can actually push them over with a charmander with a couple of potions and knowledge of bide mechanics.
I don't even like charmander, I just spent so much time playing RBY as a kid I know how things actually go when you play the game. I pretty much always pick squirtle, then charmander, mainly because venasaur is just fricking ugly but also because it's slow and easiest to replace
yeah, go use it. get your feet on the ground. that tackle is all you've got for an enormous amount of battles where you're really gonna be wishing you had something else.
Never said that. Someone said bulbasaur isn't the worst starter, and I corrected them, at least when it comes to red and blue. It's fricking terrible compared to charmander and squirtle in red and blue, where you don't have to press 'A'(x, what? zoomer) to win, but unlike with bulbasaur, you can.
it's pretty simple actually, you press 'right' once or twice, then 'up' once, and then 'A'.
That's not a frog
Now go online and search dicynodont
okay but it still has characteristics of a frog
And an onion apparently
Name three anuran traits bulbasaur has, go on
social media zombies saw a meme on 9gag says "Bulbasaur worst starter" and they believed it for decades
it pretty much is because way too many trainers throw bird, bug, grass, and poison types at you in RB. relying on bulbasaur in those games feels like hacking through a jungle with a plastic bat
>game is about catching all pokemon and use a team of 6
>anon thinks you are supposed to only use 1 pokemon for the entire game
Charizard sucks ass at every gym but 1, and E4 yet people consider him the single strongest pokemon of all time
gyms are like 4% of the game tops, and if you're already talking about using pokemon other than bulbasaur to make up for its problems you're proving my point. charmander don't give a frick bout no birds and bugs and neither does squirtle.
90% of the game is rock/ground/water and guess who rape these?
also, Bulbasaur being part poison makes it immune to poison status which most bug pokemon cause
it still has more advantages than Charmander
>90% of the game is rock/ground/water and guess who rape these?
extremely false, but squirtle does without getting raped by everything else
>it still has more advantages than Charmander
it might seem that way to someone who hyperfocuses on gym matchups but if you actually spend time playing the games and trying things out you will find charmander shredding through birds, bugs, plants, and rocket teams where bulbasaur isn't. and there's a hell of a lot more of those than gym fights.
the worst thing against Bulbasaur in RBG/FRLG is unironically Zubat/Golbat
Flying types are weak
Fire types are rare
Psychics aren't common either
Ice pokemon are mostly part water
Bug type doesn't have moves
this is why I say you really have to spend time on the ground actually playing the game and not theorizing about it from afar. you're not considering a lot of things that become obvious to you once you actually sit a bulbasaur in front of a bug catcher.
here's what that little moron learns. grass moves do 50% less damage to bug types. is it starting to click yet? jungle. plastic bat.
so I sit there with Leech Seed and stall like a homosexual
yeah, plastic bat, just as I said
and bulbasaurs is particularly garbage for handling the average trainer battle. and wild pokemon too. birds and bats and bugs and plants fricking everywhere. he doesn't even handle tentacools properly so the water isn't great for him either.
At least Bulbasaur doesn't need 10 potions to beat 1 gym like Jobberzard
you've never used bulbasaur and it shows
you didn't need every move to beat the game
>Razor Leaf with its insane 100% critical rate
>Body Slam for everything else
>Leech Seed/Toxic
>Sleep Powder/Toxic
is it optimal? no
but every movepool in Gen1 is garbage
>Bird type
So they use Missingno?
also Bulbasaur line destroys the first 3 gyms and does well with the 4th and 8th
I was thinking about mentioning how much brainlets who actually don't have a lot of on the ground time in red and blue tunnel vision on gym match ups despite them being an extremely small portion of gameplay but I mistakenly thought /vp/ might be better than that.
most of red and blue is hacking through a bunch of trainers throwing birds and koffings and oddishes and ekans at you and bulbasaur just doesn't like it
you still haven’t correctly named Pidgey’s second type
so I have to assume you’re talking about Missingno
Bulbasaur is actually EZ mode for gen 1. Razor Leaf crits everything to death and you rape most gyms outside of Sabrina and Blaine
Gyms are <4% of the game and it doesn't matter if you crit everything when you do 50% and even 25% to lots of the most common trainer pokemon.
We're not talking about FRLG in here buddy. Go load up a red blue rom right now and pick your toad and put on the smug mask over your seething crying face after realizing you will only have normal and grass type moves the entire game.
LMFAO I played blue before you buddy
now let's take a look at the other little moron in question. by level 9 he's already equipped with tools to take on most types you're going to run into.
also worth noting, brocks pokemon don't have a single rock or ground type move. you can actually push them over with a charmander with a couple of potions and knowledge of bide mechanics.
>Potions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT THIS PUSSY
>with a couple of potions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
doesn't matter, because with charmander you'll already be in mt moon while your plastic bat is still leech seeding weedles in viridian forest.
it starts with this move called Tackle too, ya know
Shitmander gays don't play the games
they just jerk off to Charizard belly and feet
I don't even like charmander, I just spent so much time playing RBY as a kid I know how things actually go when you play the game. I pretty much always pick squirtle, then charmander, mainly because venasaur is just fricking ugly but also because it's slow and easiest to replace
it’s faster than Blastoise, dumbass
not at beating trainers. taking a venasaur through route 13-15 is like wading through molasses
by that point I can spam Body Slam
or even
get this
take the Cycling Road path
>needs TMs to make it usable
charizard and blastoise don't.
bike path is littered with poison types.
silph co is pure AIDS with a venasaur in front.
Silph Co has the Swords Dance TM
okay? interesting.
while we're on the subject of TMs, let's see what kind of type diversity we can get for damaging moves on the various starters.
>Charizard
Normal
Fire
Fighting
Dragon
Ground
>Blastoise
Normal
Water
Ice
Fighting
Ground
>Venusaur
Normal
Grass
Bulbasaur is literally just a shitty pick for red and blue.
yeah, go use it. get your feet on the ground. that tackle is all you've got for an enormous amount of battles where you're really gonna be wishing you had something else.
Because the turtle is cuter
Friendly reminder that if you chose Charmander you are most likely an autistic furry now
I wish that I was either autistic and/or furry to be perfectly honest
>if I don't press X to win then pokemon is useless!!!!
Never said that. Someone said bulbasaur isn't the worst starter, and I corrected them, at least when it comes to red and blue. It's fricking terrible compared to charmander and squirtle in red and blue, where you don't have to press 'A'(x, what? zoomer) to win, but unlike with bulbasaur, you can.
I only hate Bulbasaur because its the only dual-type starter besides Rowlet
>How can you not choose this cute frog as your starter?
>Bulbasaur will never literally take you downstairs
Pain!
Squirtle is cooler
Bulbasaur wins easily by design alone
I lived in Texas for 30 odd years. Water and rain were always welcome. Heat not so much.
I saw the water-elemental turtle with cannons on its back and I was like, "Yeah. Yeah, that's my boy there."
I chose Squirtle due to Brock.