How did Nintendo become the market leader in the videogame industry?
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Made good gaymes, art style over fidelity, experience over narrative of experience, etc. Just a better understanding of the medium and what it is.
>Made good gaymes
No lol.
>Zelda Botw
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
>Splatoon 2 + Octo Expansion
>Mario Odyssey
>Xenoblade 2 + Torna the Golden Country
>Mario + rabbids
>Smash Ultimate
>Bayonetta 2
>Kirby Star Allies
>Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
>Mario Tennis Aces
>Mario Maker 2
>Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee
>Fire Emblem Three Houses
>Astral Chain
>Link's Awakening
>Tetris 99
>Luigi's Mansion 3
>Ring Fit Adventure
>Pokémon Sword/Shield
>Animal Crossing: New Horizons
>Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
>Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate
>Paper Mario: The Origami King
>Clubhouse Games
>Pikmin 3 Deluxe
>Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
>Mario 3D World + Bowsers Fury
>Octopath Traveler
>Monster Hunter Rise + Sunbreak
>Pokemon Snap
>Bravely Default 2
>No More Heroes 3
>Metroid Dread
>Shin Megami Tensei V
>Pokémon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl
>Pokémon Legends Arceus
>Triangle Strategy
>Kirby & the Forgotten Land
>Switch Sports
>Mario Strikers
>Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes
>LIVE A LIVE HD-2D
>Xenoblade Chronicles 3
>Splatoon 3
>Mario + rabbids Sparks of Hope
>Bayonetta 3
>Pokemon Scarlet & Violet
>Fire Emblem Engage
>Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon
>Zelda Totk
>Pikmin 4
goyslop
Holy based, tendies btfo.
>irrelevant bullshit
Even more games never coming to the switch, based.
How's sekiro, starfield, warzone, Diablo 4,starcraft2, wow etc. etc. etc. on the switch? Lmao
>those games don't count
>Blizzardgay calling other games goyslop
All on PC, and just like the court ruled, that PC and Switch are objectively superior to PS5/Xbox Series X.
>and Switch
All on PC.
No, the court ruled that the switch has no games and that MS ouldn't compete against Sony without buying Activision.
Source?
Source?
>Neo-blizzard slop
>Thinks he has any semblance of taste
LMAO
>it doesn't count
I know, that's why the switch has no games.
Don't people ever get sick of playing the same weeb shit over and over again?
don't you get tired posting the same seethe over and over again?
Don't you get tired of playing the same israelite propaganda all the time?
I'm not. That's why I have a switch.
>japanese company makes japanese games
well no fricking shit anon.
Weebshit games>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
movieslop.
Anyone that actually likes games arrives at this conclusions eventually. Western gaming has been dead for going on 10 years now.
That list is damning for Sony and Microsoft. Even if you don’t love all of those game, which I don’t…somebody did.
Honestly this. Dozens of pretty well received games
You have to take into consideration that those exclusives do come at a cost of all 3rd party releases running like shit on the Switch, or aren't on it at all.
Twenty years ago that meant something but the popular third party games now are just F2P shit like warzone and apex legends so who really cares.
Kind of a non-issue. Some 3rd party games, especially high profile ones like Witcher 3 are indeed available on switch and run fine. Otherwise, go buy yourself a PS5/PC unless you're a poor gay or mentally ill loyalist.
They don't run fine though, they run objectively the worst on the Switch than on any other platform they are available on.
I dunno, there are far more 3rd party games I'm interested in than any Nintendo exclusive. Just one big release like Elden Ring or RDR2 already completely shits on the entire Nintendo catalog.
They actually do run fine. Obviously at lower settings than more powerful machines. I haven't heard of a 3rd party switch port that was almost unplayable solely because of the hardware. If you're a graphics gay then you're probably underage posting anyway
Elden Ring is just padded out souls shit and an easy pass to most people. RDR2 is definitely something Nintendo missed out on but games like that come out once a decade
>an easy pass to most people
Huh? Elden Ring sold more copies than ToTK did.
For now
Zelda botw sold more than elden ring
For now. Elden Ring has 6 years to catch up to BotW and the difference is not very much actually considering ER was already at 20 million copies last year.
Now that's just cope. If you can blame Microsoft for Redfall, then you also have to give them credit for Hi-Fi Rush. Both of those games were a direct result of Microsoft's hands-off approach to publishing.
Elden ring isn't going to continue selling millions for years like zelda does
That seems like wishful thinking on your end. Souls games tend to have very strong legs plus there is a DLC for ER just coming up.
That's true. I forgot souls games tend to have good legs. Elden ring might outsell zelda botw
But then again it's not really a good comparison. Zelda games are exclusives while elden ring is a multiplat
arkane was never good
tango will never be good again
american publishers are poisonous to game development
I do not blame Microsoft for redfall actually. In fact I personally believe all arcane games range from shit to mediocre.
When a billionare buys out a local restaurant he doesn't get credit for providing the town with food as it was there regardless. When a chef in said restaurant burns your steak but still charges you full price on it instead of throwing it out and making a new one you can safely shit on the owner for the poor service of his restaurant.
>food analogy
Doesn't count, snoy. Elden Ring is a horrific game. I'll enjoy elden ring remastered in 10 years in the switch 3.
Elden Ring is on the PS4 anon, if anything it's happening on the Switch 2 already
Lmao, sure, moron. That's why dark souls which ran on the 360 appeared on the wii u (about as powerful as a 360, making a e3 presentation to brag about finally being able to play arkham asylum of all things)
Idiot.
Publishers not wanting to port games to the Wii U is a completely different issue
Elden Ring appearing on the Switch 2 is incredibly likely to happen, screenscap this post if you want to
>Elden Ring appearing on the Switch 2 is incredibly likely to happen
Switch didn't even get Dark Souls 2 because the first one flopped.
Nintendo gamers have demonstrated time and time again they only buy nintendo IP. Even octopath had to jump to Xbox.
Octopath traveller sold 2 million on the switch alone. It was a massive succes so square decided to port it to other consoles. The game was never meant to be exclusive and that's fine
>Octopath traveller sold 2 million on the switch alone
Frankly, pathetic for a console owned by 150 million people who all just bought it for the bundled mario kart.
Selling more consoles doesn't suddenly make JRPGs more popular, doofus.
You can't use attachment rate against Nintendo consoles, we invented this "argument" to make fun of the ps4.
That's just moronic. The market for jrpg's doesn't grow larger when a console sells more
Aren't we currently pretending that FF16 is a flop because it sold a mere 5 million copies in its first week?
Correct
It sold 1/3 of what ff15 and ff7r did during the same timeframe. That's a flop
yeah, but it's still massively more than OT2 sold, or Xenoblade Chronicles 3 for that matter. so the question remains, why do JRPGs sell so badly on the Switch?
Why are you comparing 2 much more niche games to a AAA game like ff16? Xenoblade and ot by far do not have the same budget as final fantasy does. If a xenoblade game sells 2 million is's a big succes. If a final fantasy games sells 2 million it's a huge flop.
Those games are AAA as well. Xeno had a huge marketing budget. Again. AAA doesn't mean "games that sell well on non-nintendo platforms", moron.
>Those games are AAA as well.
Those are A titles. They are considered a big success with 1 million sales.
The minimum standard for a AAA game is 1 million in sales, so that doesn’t preclude them at all. As long as they add ~100 full time employees it is AAA.
>The minimum standard for a AAA game is 1 million in sales
This isn't the Sixth gen anymore anon. The upper echelon of games have budgets that above 200 million. GTA 5 had a budget over 250 million and 6's budget is supposed to exclipse that. You can't call games like Octopath a AAA game when AAA studios would shut down with sales below 5 million.
Was Octopath worked on by 100 full time developers?
No. One dude made it part time, for free. Therefore it's a huge hit when it sold 1 copy.
No, but team size is irrelevant. It's all about budgets. For instance, Larian Studios has been 200+ since Original Sin and up to 400 for BG3. The Original Sin games aren't AAA games but BG3 might be.
You can have more than 100 developers at a studio and not have them all working on the same game.
Larian works on one game at a time, they just may be working on different versions like how the console versions usually comes later. As for Monolith, they have been the workhorse for BoTW and ToTK.
I just looked it up for you, only ~40 devs worked on Original Sin, and they upped this to 130 for 2.
Marketing budget makes it AAA, not the game itself, that's why so many Nintendo games are all AAA. They run very expensive ads for their horrible games everywhere.
>They run very expensive ads for their horrible games everywhere
The ran expensive ads for the Switch, smaller ads for Mario and Zelda, and targeted campaigns for everything else stemming from the Directs. Nintendo doesn't really do AAA games. Most of their ads in recent years have been random people, including John Cena, playing the Switch with random titles popping up. TV is platform for marketing the Switch, the Directs and other internet showcases for everything else.
Nintendo is literally one of the few companies doing AAA games.
Spoiler: a 30 hour movie with graphics rendered in real time is still a movie, not a game.
Most game companies lost the meaning of what a game meant and why it was a different medium from cinema. That's when the industry started going to shit
>Nintendo is literally one of the few companies doing AAA games.
Only Zelda is AAA. Mario and Smash are AA, everything else is A. Most of their games are made with the intent of selling 1 million units, the exceptions being Zelda, Mario, and Smash Bros. Now if you were to add in Pokemon, Pokemon Go definitely had a massive marketing campaign.
Just like final fantasy then. I accept your concession
>Just like final fantasy then.
Nope. Final Fantasy has been considered a system seller for generations now. Their budget for cinematics is probably bigger than Octopath Traveler 1 + 2 combined.
But Xenoblade Chronicles is THE flagship JRPG title for the Switch. Nintendo even bought Monolith to make them an official first party studio. Why is the biggest JRPG exclusive to the Switch such a niche title that it sells barely 2 million copies on the single most popular console on the market with by far the highest attachment rate worldwide and especially in Japan, the home country for JRPGs?
Even then, XC is a niche game, while Final Fantasy is an icon of the videogame world, to the point that even normalgays who don't game at all heard about it.
Thinking about comparing it doesn't sound really fair.
With that all said, i don't understand why people call it a flop. It seems to be selling better. You don't need to beat every other game of your own series to be a success.
Xenoblade isn't a flagship, it just has a following. If Xenoblade 4 or whatever never gets made, it only really affects Xenoblade fans. Nintendo would be fine without it and Monolith could probably make something else.
That would be pokemon
Do you not know what pokemon is?
Xenoblade 3 sold over 500,00 copies in Japan. It's not unpopular.
It's just that series like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest have a long history and brand recognition among Japanese casuals. Xenoblade won't have this advantage for another 15-20 years. Those series are also pioneers of the genre, a prestige Xenoblade will never have.
Also so many games after them imitated their mechanics, making getting into them easy, while Xenoblade has a pretty unique combat system.
Also I think Xenoblade is disproportionately popular outside of Japan compared to some series.
I love Xenoblade but it'll never get that advantage because it's a Nintendo exclusive and the average Nintendo fan hates JRPGs that don't have a Mario skin. Look at how a direct with a lot of RPGs gets treated as awful but the last direct had virtually none besides SMRPG and was 50% Mario games got treated as amazing. Xenoblade has everything working against it being a JRPG filters out the average Nintendo fan and it having auto attack centered gameplay filters out even more people. I know morons that unironically think Xenoblade games play themselves.
>5M
Please point at me the source of that number.
It's always a flop when it's not on Nintendo consoles. Metroid dread only selling 100k in it's first week? That's a huge hit. Snoy.
It literally does
Zelda botw sold as much as the switch itself during launch. According to you zelda totk should sell 125 million copies to be considered a succes
Your logic doesn't work
zelda tiktok should sell more than botw, but probably won't. Also seems to have a really high trade in rate, I don't think people like it as much.
Barry, it's over
It's almost as if game sales don't scale with console sales
What a surprise!
You can't use attachment rate against Nintendo consoles. Don't you get it? This "argument" is solely reserved for Nintendo's competitors.
>Even Octopath had to jump to Xbox
You're one disingenuous motherfricker aren't you? If Octopath sold "so bad" how's that Triangle Strategy (a fricking nice TRPG which sold 1M on Switch alone) and Octopath 2 even exists?
How's that Octopath 2 sold better on Switch than it did on PC AND PS4/5?
>How's that Octopath 2 sold better on Switch than it did on PC AND PS4/5?
Simple explanation, OT1 had the nintendo bonus and people were fooled into thinking it was an actual good game because of how highly rated it was back when it was a Nintendo exclusive. Now that everyone had the chance to play OT1, obviously they didn't fall for the same trick twice and buy some ugly ass jRPg for 60 bucks.
Octopath Traveler at least helped me realize that the people vouching for it were legitimately moronic, so I guess there's that. I haven't played many video games that were as immediately and aggressively unfun as that game, and I like JRPGs.
Oh yeah, that entire teams games are a joke and genuinely awful. Every Bravely Default, octopath, shit was all terrible.
It's not that bad, and OT2 is a big improvement, what exactly do you want?
Not Octopath Traveler, apparently. I thought it was very bad. I don't actually think you're a moron, anon; I'm just being an butthole.
Yes, I was very disappointed when I tried Octopath. Thankfully, Kiseki is strong and washed that poor taste away.
how do you reconcile this notion with third parties doing well enough on the Switch that the head of Activision outright said it was a mistake not to support it the other week
>head of Activision outright said it was a mistake not to support it the other week
How do you reconcile him saying this while saying gamepass is unsustainable and harmful while wanting to be bought out by the gamepass company?
He's clearly insane.
ok
Man, I've been replaying Dark Souls on my Switch recently and have found myself fiending for Dark Souls II on there as well.
Is an extremely super late port, people like myself couldn't really justify to buy the Goddamn game for a 4th time at almost full price.
Maybe the Switch 2 will be able to handle ER at 720p and unstable 30 fps, but then that proves once again that all third party releases are always worst on Nintendo hardware. I highly doubt the Switch 2 will be even close to the Series S in terms of hardware power, let alone the PS5 or Series X, so ER at any proper resolution and FPS is out of the question.
>but then that proves once again that all third party releases are always worst on Nintendo hardware.
Nobody who buys and plays Switch games really cares about this or expects a literal tablet to perform like a high performance video game console.
I'm someone who built a PC that can play modern releases at high framerates and resolutions and will readily admit that 720p at 30fps is perfectly serviceable for most video games. The Switch 2 will likely target 960p at 30fps in handheld mode if I had to guess.
>720p at 30fps is perfectly serviceable for most video
LOL
seethe more
>can't even reach 24 FPS for a genuine cinematic experience
lol. lmao even.
except it clearly does as you can see in that graph, almost like you're cherrypicking minor issues to cope.
Game drops frames everytime you activate the hand on busy areas moron and in multiple places, cope
You would have keeled over dead if you were alive to play video games in the 2000s.
You're the one crying rn 🙂
Just played Dark Souls on my PS3 yesterday at a far worse framerate and enjoyed it all the way through 🙂
Why do Nintendo fans love this stupid portable-console hybrid so much? I would genuinely be interested in buying a new Nintendo console, but not if it's some cheap ass portable hybrid thing. I really hope Nintendo will make a real console again and then just sell a complimentary handheld hardware separately, but unfortunately with the Switch selling 20 billion units, that's likely never going to happen.
What's a "real console" to you? Entertain me.
a console that is only used stationary and has no handheld component. A console-portable hybrid will never be able to compete with a pure console in terms of hardware power because of the extra cost of the handheld components. So the only way for Nintendo to ever release a new console that has competitive hardware is if they ditch the tablet and sell it extra as a standalone handheld.
so
>muh power!
cope.
yes, I don't care about handheld gaming, so the fact that I can't play games at a proper framerate and resolution is a dealbreaker for me. I get nothing out of the Switch being a tablet, I don't want to play games when I'm outside or on the toilet or in my bed. When I'm at home, I want to play games on my big ass tv and if I wanted to play games when going outside, I'd much rather just buy a dedicated handheld device like the 3DS or the Vita used to be.
The cost of parts that make it a handheld? What are you even talking about? Are you moronic? What makes it a handheld? A screen, smaller parts, having some control interface.
Did you even see the latest gpu? They are bigger than the wii. The cost has little to do with it in the context you are talking about. They don't put more powerful hardware in it because it would be fricking huge and would no longer function as a handheld.
And yes, the cost DOES apply in different context because these consoles do end up cheaper due to the lower cost. It allows them to sell at a lower price point, and they know the value of the hybrid model and ease of transport is something people are interested.
I can agree that the hybrid is jsut a handheld pretending to be a "real" console but honestly it gets the job done and not any worse than a "real console" just being a system pretending to be a PC.
I own PS5, I like its performance and all but the thing weighs over 9 pounds. There's a reason sony and xbox have pushed towards remote replaying your console instead which has it's own issues.
>They don't put more powerful hardware in it because it would be fricking huge and would no longer function as a handheld.
That's my whole point though. I don't want a handheld, I have no use for it. I want the budget to go towards hardware components that allow me to play games at 60 fps and a decent resolution, I don't want to make a compromise having to play games at 720p and 25 fps just because the console is also acting as a portable device.
Also what do you mean by "fricking huge"? The Series S is vastly more powerful than the Switch and actually smaller.
The switch is 20.9 cubic in and less than one pound
Series is 164.7 cubic in and weighs over 4 pounds
Does not sound "actually smaller" to me by any measure
It feels like a pretty real console to me even though it's literally a tablet with a dock.
I enjoyed Nintendo's handheld output in the late 2000s and 2010s a lot more than their home consoles at the time so I can't say I've been too upset with the direction they've taken. I also don't feel the need to turn to Nintendo for high-fidelity, high performance video gaming since I already own a pretty powerful PC.
I agree it would be cool to see Nintendo make another GameCube, but I genuinely don't think that re-entering the hardware rat race would make their games any better.
Because its aimed at japan, who gave up consoles after the PS2 era.
Because, other than the Wii, every single handheld that Nintendo has produced dwarfed the home console of their respective generation by a MASSIVE margin.
The original Gameboy is still in the top of the best seller list. Look at how much the 3DS sold compared to its disaster of a sister we call the WiiU.
So Nintendo, not being entirely full moron like most of the other console manufacturers, put 2 and 2 together and realized that their variety gaming public was more interested in "gaming on the go" than investing a lot of money into a living room electronic decoration and, lo and behold, they hit the mark right in the middle with their aim. They were 100% right in their assumption and managed to make an incredibly versatile hybrid console with a huge library of variety and classic games that touches almost every audience in one way or another as opposed to other manufacturers who trapped themselves into a situation where their public is mainly adults who grew up with "mature games for mature gamers such as myself" who want a Bluray player that can also allow them to play "extremelly realistic moviegames" that take a shitload of space on the console and a full decade to develop which mainly appeal to a public of adults who want games that make them feel like mature adults which explore mature and IRL thematics that seem fricking boring to a general public who might just want to BING BING WAHOO for an hour or two.
And I speak as someone who deeply enjoyed the nuGOW movies. It's just that these kinds of games are not videogames to a public who actually like to play videogames. Mario Party is a videogame. It's nothing but a virtual board game, so the kind of public for such a game is obvious, but what to say of games such as Red Dead, Cyberpunk or even Elden Ring that all have really interesting mechanics and universe, but focus most of their energy in the universe itself and making bloated games that can allow most people to pour hundreds of hours in.
>Huh? Elden Ring sold more copies than ToTK did.
TotK will outsell it in the long run.
elden ring sold 13 million in 3 months
totk sold 10 million in 3 days. you do the math snoy
Elden Ring sold 12 million copies in its first 2 weeks actually. Either way, TotK is obviously very front loaded because everyone who owns a Switch was waiting for the release and nobody ever waits to buy Switch games on sales, because they never have sales.
Elden Ring sold purely on hype because of people like George R.R. Martin and Elon Musk recommending the game. It has bad word of mouth outside of troony hives like Ganker and reddit.
TOTK has sold well because so many people liked BOTW and wanted more.
>It has bad word of mouth outside of troony hives like Ganker
Exact opposite, Ganker is the only place where it gets bad word of mouth.
Those don't count. Every shitty 3rd party game on the switch(always the worst way to play them)? Those games count triple the amount.
portability doe
>muh shit hardware
The fact that the Nintendo Switch, a glorified tablet, is absolutely mogging all competition tells you that you don't fricking need a cutting edge console to sell games. Most people simply do not give a flying frick about graphics or performance if the games aren't fun. Sony has been focusing on graphic fidelity and realism for years now and forgot how to make fricking games. The console is a glorified Bluray player.
The craziest part is that most of those games were made on a shoestring budget. We know from the FTC trail that Sony has spent upwards of 200 million on games like Last of Us 2. They are bleeding money.
It's only shoestring relatively. 70% of that 200 Million is completely wasted on advertising, bloated teams full of people doing nothing, and middle managers taking huge paychecks for doing nothing. Ninty saves shitloads of money by having people who make games, and putting together a cheap trailer package on youtube and some posters and good enough for advertising.
Efficiency would be the optimal word. Yeah, Sony and a lot western developers should look at Nintendo's model and try to emulate it.
I think a larger problem with western development in general is the obsession with games as a service. Many of these successful first party Nintendo titles are single player games or just simply multiplayer games that don't require a massive team of people working around the clock on patches and server maintenance.
Nintendo could've released TOTK last year, but they took the risk of testing it for a year.
And look how it paid off, other devs are fricking dumbfounded on how a game like it is even on the Switch at a stable rate.
Most devs would just put their games out on early access rather than pay for testers to put it through the ringer lol.
remove shovelware: gone --
Mario Rabbids
Mario Kart
Splatoon 2
Mario Tennis
Let's Go Pikachu
Tetris 99
Ring fit adventure (LOL
Clubhouse games
Switch sports
mario strikers
>Ring fit adventure (LOL
This shit was sold out everywhere for almost a year...
>Mario Rabbids
not a bad "baby-XCOM" but I understand that many hate the Rabbids
>Mario Kart
I'm not a fan of re-releases, but the truth is that if you include the Deluxe content+Booster Course Pass content and now with even more characters, I have to say that you have to take it into account now
that doesn't mean I don't want Mario Kart 9 on the next console
>Splatoon 2
why? regardless of whether there is a third game, all the content it contains is valid and interesting
Maybe you're just saying that because you don't like Splatoon in general
>Mario Tennis
>Let's Go Pikachu
>Tetris 99
>Ring fit adventure (LOL
>Clubhouse games
>Switch sports
fair
>mario strikers
I haven't had the chance to play it much, but it doesn't look like a bad game, and they keep adding new content
>Ring fit adventure (LOL
this has sold more than FFXVI
Wow. The Switch really has nothing worth playing.
If you think nothing on that list looks fun then I am sorry to tell you but videogames aren't for you anymore and you should find a new hobby
Nintendo simply doesn't make good games, and their fans don't even know this.
I’ve never actually done that before in the near decade I’ve played 8/deluxe lmao
Playing games is about being creative within a possibility space. Nintendo games are about simple feed back loops. You get the coins, you get the flags, you "finish" in first, but it's not about player expression. It's not about gaming, it's about fulfilling the checklist.
This has been true of Nintendo games since the beginning. They always hold you back. That's what tripping was about in Brawl.
Zelda totk is the most creative game ever made
It also suffers a limited possibility space, it's not about a challenge you have to game to surpass, or even can game to surpass. It's about collecting the baubles, filling out the map, coloring in the lines.
It's an anti-game.
I mean sure but Lakitu in 8 blocks nearly all frickery that could happen. Can’t blame them after how much of a glitch fest Mario kart Wii became and mama wuhu was before it surprisingly got patched. At least they let the mushroom gorge shortcut stay in 8
CTR had no problem with these kinds of short cuts back on the PS1. Mario Kart 8 simply isn't designed to be a game, it's designed to be a toy/activity.
125 million people disagree with your statement but no only you can be the right one
Brutal.
All on PC, already beat fire emblem three houses, bayo3, smtV, totk and astral chain, thanks for paying moronic cultists
STOP
STEALING
GAMES
>already beat fire emblem three houses, bayo3, smtV, totk and astral chain
Stop playing weeb shovelware.
>totk shovelware
This game will probably be remembered for decades just like OoT
You think so? I actually haven't seen a single TotK thread on Ganker in weeks. Seems like the game is already completely forgotten and will be remembered as the BotW Gmod DLC
So you...only live on Ganker? Like this is the only place you ever browse?
>This game will probably be remembered for decades just like OoT
TotK is literally already forgotten.
>All on PC
Legally?
Yes, technically. It is legal to buy a Switch game and rip it to play on an emulator.
Okay? So you admit the switch has good games
Because of mouthbreathers like you is that we can't have nice things, you dumbfricks are bringing waaay too much unnecessary heat to emulation and we all going to pay the bill sooner than later.
Emulation is legal
Dumping your own copy of the game is legal
There's nothing Nintendo can do other than cry and gaslight people into thinking it's wrong
You completely missed his point moron
Abortion also used to be federally legal.
Did you dump your games yourself?
Do you understand why rights can be lost?
Did you dump your games yourself?
Frick no I pirated them all, dumping a game is too much of a hassle
>Do you understand why rights can be lost?
No and it won't be because I'm pirating
That guy literally said "thanks for paying" implying he himself did not pay
>MY $3000 PC CAN RUN BORTABLE GAMES TOO
Any modern dirty cheap Ryzen or Intel and an RTX 2060 super is more than enough to run yuzu with framerates and resolution better than the switch dumbfrick nincel
with glitches emulation jank and slowdown, sure
and no portability or MP or gyro 😉
>with glitches emulation jank and slowdown, sure
it really depends on the case, if you wait a few weeks they will polish the emulation of that game and most of the bugs
>portability
If I played all the time in dock mode, why would I need portability?
>MP
there are servers now (pic rel) and you can also play games on lan, with other consoles on the same network
>gyro
>That player numbers
Kek this is why most normal people won't emulate any current console.
exactly, not everyone who emulates intends to play online
but still, it is a good option that exists for those who are interested
>not everyone who emulates intends to play online
I mean, that's one way to cope. If you can go online on Splatoon/MK8D/Smash on emulators as easy as you can on the real Switch, there will be less reason to buy the real hardware. But no, it's still way more complicated that most normalgays just chose to buy the Switch. Emulators have their benefits, but MP is not one of them.
>Emulators have their benefits, but MP is not one of them
and what did I just tell you? emulators are not for playing online, it is just an extra thing, which exists, but only an extra thing
also
>more complicated that most normalgays
why do you say obvious things? do you think that I would recommend a normalgay to play on pc in the first place?
I would be the first one who would tell him to buy a console and not to complicate himself
I have more or less this exact setup in my PC, and Switch emulation has been very hit or miss for me. Tears of the Kingdom runs mostly fine at a high resolution and higher framerate, but the framerate is very inconsistent, and I haven't been able to fix the black screen bug no matter what fix I try. I also found that that the cel shading in that game looks much worse in Yuzu and Ryujinx than it does on the Switch for whatever reason.
Where Switch emulation really excels in my experience is in the ports of Wii U games.
>high resolution and higher framerate
>but the framerate is very inconsistent
weird, someone with amd gpu can play it without major problem
try to play in native resolution, with 60 fps
>and I haven't been able to fix the black screen bug no matter what fix I try
there are mods for that, I also went through that problem before, some are updating them, try to search in gbatemp
>I also found that that the cel shading in that game looks much worse in Yuzu and Ryujinx
I think I know what you're talking about, but I've been playing yuzu for so many hours, compared to the first 10 hours of ryujinx, that I'm used to it
>Where Switch emulation really excels in my experience is in the ports of Wii U games
it is obvious that if those are games from the previous console, at that point it is better to emulate in cemu, with the exception of MK8D.
>try to play in native resolution, with 60 fps
That was one of the first things I tried, but it still hitches pretty often. More than I would like it to, at least.
>there are mods for that, I also went through that problem before, some are updating them, try to search in gbatemp
I tried several mods already and no dice. I liked what I played enough to just buy the game for my Switch.
I do play a MK8 Deluxe on my PC every now and then and hoo boy, that shit looks and feels real good.
>but it still hitches pretty often
like in the video?
because if you want a lock 60 fps, sorry but, you will need a better cpu
ToK in yuzu (and I guess the same in ryujinx) is very dependent on your cpu, and you won't have a lock 60 fps if you don't have a better cpu
your best bet is to go to 2160p with 30 fps locked, since on switch the game is running at 30 fps
>I tried several mods already and no dice
maybe it's the game version you are on?
I am on 1.1.2, which is not the latest version.
try to find the mods from here
https://github.com/HolographicWings/TOTK-Mods-collection
and remember not to mix certain mods, they may conflict with others and cause problems
>I do play a MK8 Deluxe on my PC every now and then and hoo boy, that shit looks and feels real good
because they are Wii U games, you said it yourself, it is obvious that those will be emulated fast and without fail
for example, when 3D World+Bowsers Fury came out, the game was already 100% emulatable days before release, without any bugs, and that was because it was based on a Wii U game
besides these games are not open world like ToK, obviously it is a more demanding game, like what I told you about the cpu
I also tried it at native res and 30 fps, and I have a Ryzen 5 3600. Still wasn't satisfied with the performance; it hitches quite noticeably pretty often. I was running 1.1.2 as well.
Moot point considering I bought the game and have since been playing it on my Switch, but I appreciate the concern nonetheless.
>Ryzen 5 3600
there's the problem, I thought you had a later gen cpu, of course it will go even sub 30 fps
there is also the detail that you have at least 16gb of ram and work at 3200mhz
>bought the game and have since been playing it on my Switch
ah is fine in that respect, you might as well get used to the framerate of the switch
anyway, do not try to put so many zonai charge in the gacha thing, the framerate will go nuts
>Snoy fans: Nintendo games are worthless
>Also Snoy fans: Let me get out of my way to play Nintendo games on PC.
It's ok, i get it. They are worthless, but sometimes you do need to have some fun playing games.
It's ok, Nintendo sells plenty even if you guys are emulating them.
A lot of games on the Switch would indeed be fun if they were on hardware that could do them justice. Like Monster Hunter Rise at 30 fps is absolutely attrocious, but MHR at 60 or 120 fps on a proper console or PC was a lot of fun.
Nice, good taste, so you agree, Nintendo does make good games.
Is this the snoy mindset that playing games and having games that people want is somehow a bad thing?
>astral chain
I played on my friend's switch a few months after release, it's a good game
all the other games i play nowadays are emulated, and yes, in general you don't need to buy the nintendo console if you have a slightly decent pc.
no, nintendo games are good and that's why I emulate them
any game that doesn't interest me I just don't play it, but sometimes people don't understand that one talk about emulation not because you hate their software, but because of their outdated hardware
>origami king
>mario sports games
>any pokemon game
>good
>list also includes 3rd party games not made by nintendo
>any swtich pokemon games
>good
frick off
XY were the last good pokemon games.
X and Y weren’t good either.
They were exactly what I wanted in a pokemon game. I started with red/blue and XY are probably my favorite games in the series. Multiplayer has never been so good before or after. The Kalos dex was great. Megas were great with the exception of a few pointless additions based solely on popularity like Garchomp. The game didn't waste my time at all, you could train up a whole batch of competitive mons in not time at all. The only people who didn't like it were actual manchildren upset that the exp share made their game designed to be beaten by literal 6 year olds too easy.
brutal
>Pikmin 4
The game's not even out yet, genius. Are you just a mindless drone?
Do you even have to ask
Why do you fricking drones pad out the list with shovelware and multiplats? There are plenty of good games without doing that.
all those games are for little kids
Based, soon the liste will break character limit. Nintendo literally can't stop winning.
have a nice day, dickygger
Xeno 3 is on that list.
You invalidated the entire list.
So, fun?
No, it's a bit more than that. Besides, "fun" is a thought-terminating concept.
Pokémon is their top seller and it’s none of these things
The concept/gameplay loop is very good.
>the idea of the game is good
ummm sweaty, it's actually mk8d and it's all of these things
>b-but midmon sold more overall
gen 8 and gen 9 both sold ~50 mi which is what mk8 alone sold
legends arceus and lgpe when coupled sold slightly more than mario odyssey
if we count other mario games pokemon gets mogged
or marketing to kids
Muh kids. Most gamers are adult men with disposable income
This is delusions. All Nintendo has is brand names. Nintendo sells because of Mario, Zelda, Pokemon and on their names alone. You can see that with how obnoxiously over praised those games are. Way more highly rated than they deserve.
>All Nintendo has is brand names.
You sound salty.
Same reason why Xbox and Playstation sell. It's the brand name.
The main difference is that Nintendo consoles have exclusive games, while others have non-exclusive movies that you can also play in the PC.
this
but also this
Have a strong brand and don't frick with it. Sony is incapable of maintaining a strong new IP. The only first party game Sony has made that was decent was Ghost of Tsushima and they closed the studio right after it came out. The people running the company have no idea what they are doing. They are running it like modern Hollywood executives.
>and they closed the studio right after it came out
You may be thinking about Bend studio, not Sucker Punch. Bend made Days Gone, and no, they didn't close but fired the director for whatever reason. It's bad, but not as bad as closing the studio that made Tsushima
FPBP
You need to commit suicide. Right now. Go dangle from a noose. Same with every other homosexual that spams like you.
grooming kids at a young age.
Not spending 200 million dollars making ten hour long movie games probably helps
yeah this too, mario games or classic-style rpgs dosen't nned that much money but earn fricking tons
They make fun games for kids that some adults can enjoy as well, even if the social stigma is not to. And kids in general are the driving force for way more industries than You think.
>social stigma is not to
What? Everyone my age I know, even with no kids, has a switch. I'm 30
Kids don't like Nintendo games moron. They like cod
>makes an actual fun console instead of a stylized laptop
>makes actual fun games
>has a bunch of fun characters people know
ps makes good looking movie games
xbox has given up and makes shit games
Hi-Fi Rush was a better game than anything Nintendo has made in years though.
>Hi-Fi Rush was a better game than anything Nintendo has made in years though.
tango gameworks was working on it before being bought.
m$ would have never greenlit a game like that
Yeah. Hi-Fi Rush is great. But it's just one game.
Let's see if they can continue to make games like it, and more often than just once every blue moon.
Meanwhile Nintendo releases good games every or every other year.
I liked it well enough but it's really not
I agree, but still like the switch and most Nintendo games
Nintendo accidentally catered hard to autistics and homosexuals, which are a growing demographic, and because they are the only ones to cater to those demographics, said autistics and homosexuals cling onto Nintendo so hard that they unironically white knight for them and consume their products without question
The 125 million people who bought a switch aren't autists and homosexuals. You need to take your meds
seethe
Snoys are projecting hard as frick right now.
>mentioning Sony out of nowhere
Mindbroken tendie. Many such cases.
>out of nowhere
Literally in the OP.
Correct.
Keep seething, Eric.
I like your bait, here have some of mine.
Sounds like he hit the nail on the head. Didn't look at your image by the way.
Sounds like projection
No u.
Calm down Darin
Snoys seethe at this, but Sony where the ones who tried to go woke and cater to the homosexual market.
Exactly. Nintendo is the only console who is "trad".
Family friendly games, zero LGBT grooming shit allowed.
>final fantasy
You sure you want to talk about that?
Raincode, a Nintendo third party exclusive walking simulator sold more than FF16, the Sony exclusive walking simulator.
Nintendo caters to everyone.
yeah unlike sony who catered to them intentionally
>schizophrenia on display
>and homosexuals
That's 74% of Playstation users though.
You wot m8?
Nintendo isn't the company that puts own troony and halfshave dyke games like TLOU2 and Forspoken
Damn I played Halo 3 online with those people?
>company that publishes games makes more money from publishing than companies that don't publish games
Amazing insight...
they put out A game.
I genuinely have no idea. What games do people even play on the Switch? One new Zelda game every 6 years?
The switch gets a new exclusive game every month. Indies are also very popular on the switch
yeah but other than Zelda and Pokemon, nobody seems to buy any of their exclusives. I mean, Xenoblade 3 was one of their big flagship JRPG releases this year and it sold like 2 million copies or something embarassing like that.
mario and mario kart don't forget :O)
Animal Crossing sold better on the switch than either of those games
>nobody seems to buy any of their exclusives
Are you moronic? Tons of switch exclusives sold millions and are the best selling games in their franchise
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games
These guys live in fantasy land. Don't even bother correcting them with actual data.
>yeah but other than Zelda and Pokemon, nobody seems to buy any of their exclusives
Why are you ignoring Smash?
7 switch games have sold better than every single PS4 exclusive
Are you forgetting about the animal crossing pandemic?
Everything. Everything on the switch sells like hotcakes.
This, every switch game has sold over a million, most companies would kill for this to happen to them.
I have like 20 jrpg games in my backlogs on switch. Yeah, it's my jrpg machine and some indie shit like Dead Cells, Hollow Knight and Hades.
Good exclusives, clever marketing
>Console publishing
>Made good gaymes, art style over fidelity, experience over narrative of experience, etc. Just a better understanding of the medium and what it is.
cry
Games, FAR better marketing, and switch is relatively inexpensive. Wii U was a necessary failure so the switch could live.
By making games for children. Nintendo aims for 0-10 year old kids and man children eat it up too.
Nothing like a hot cup of coffee and Gankertards eternally seething about Nintendo on a fine Tuesday morning.
Come to the idort side, my troubled friends
BOW DOWN TO THE
BOW DOWN TO THE KING
Ready for the foam star party?
Don't go woke don't go broke.
They failed the console business and turned to portables
By being the only company making games
Cope dumbfrick cultist and keep paying
Being this proud of being a thief is kinda cringe bro fr. Strong poor NEET vibes from this one, but good on you for getting to enjoy the great games anyway
They focus on the video games and not the other dumb stuff
Making games that keep people entertained, instead of movie games that Sony makes.
Make a fricking animated movie then and release-it on Play-station store don't call it a game.
Play-station as always still has no games.
It starts with no games.
Despite all the cope, the Switch is the most normie console. All the girls in my job have one. The Chads too.
The PS5 seems to be only for homosexuals for some reason.
>most people didn’t know the Wii U existed
>Most see the switch and the Wii successor after years
>no one played the Wii U
>port Wii U games to switch since they’d essentially be new games for most
>success
I think Nintendo has the right idea with staying a few steps behind when it comes to tech. It might sound silly but it allows devs to focus on gameplay and whatnot instead of graphics and keeps budgets lower. If Switch 2 is around PS4 or PS4 pro tier I think thats the perfect level of power to allow you to make any game you could possibly want to make. As long as the Switch is roughly that level of power and has ssd type storage then its fine.
For most people ps4 tier Nintendo games with modern bells and whittles would be amazing. Pokémon will still look and run like crap somehow
Can't argue there. Ohhh, Gamefreak
they actually made videogames incredible stuff isn't it?
they have games
>ftc vs Microsoft
When did this court info come out? Today or some days ago?
Past few weeks during hearings and filings
>in terms of first party revenue
Sony and Microsoft make billions more from third party sales and subscription sales
And those games are also on PC aren't they?
Wow fortnite vbucks and fifa card packs, what a win for sony
Nintendo has more profit than playstation or xbox anyway so the argument is irrelevant
They look so happy together
>Sony and Microsoft make billions more from third party sales and subscription sales
>Sony
>about to lose CoD
not any more
Having the sole portable device with no competition and a decent output of games + overpricing the shit out of everything they do (console and game cart manufacturing).
People are pretty fed up with AAA games. Nintendo has yet to fully embrace the AAA meme (Zelda is like the only game the qualifies) and the Switch is a platform full of A or indie games, some of which people really enjoy.
Mario Odyssey and Smash Ultimate are also AAA games
Do you honestly believe Nintendo spent 100m on Smash and Odyssey? Because I do not. Those games are AA as best.
For smash they did for sure. All the licensing for must have cost a lot of money
Unknown. Some of the lesser known character cameos probably get in for free as bragging right. Some of the big names could potentially get a cut of that character's sales. So its possible Nintendo spends very little on characters.
It's hard to say about Nintendo's budgets because all their devs work in the same building on multiple different titles. The people working on Mario are also working on Zelda and Splatoon and Animal Crossing and more.
I really don't understand why other publishers don't copy Nintendo EPD, it seems so much more cost effective and successful to have everyone in one place than having a bunch of different development studios spread out all over the world working independently of each other
Totally. Most Nintendo games are made with a budget of less than $1 million. All those tv ads 24/7 on every kids tv channel? Those kids channels do that for free. All those ads on videos? Youtube does them for free. Magazines do the magazine ads for free, billboards, posters etc.
Plenty of ads for both of those games, hundreds of millions at least. Stop pretending that Nintendo doesn't make AAA, because you're braindead and think AAA mean "games that I don't like"
>Plenty of ads for both of those games, hundreds of millions at least.
Mario Odyssey didn't get the same grade of marketing that GTA or Call of Duty get. Call of Duty gets prime time slot commercials during big events with an all star roster of celebrities. GTA had commercials all over the place plus their internet presence was massive. By comparison, Mario's marketing has always been extremely targeted.
>you're braindead and think AAA mean "games that I don't like"
No, I just don't the marketing costs are the same. I do not buy that Mario's commercials showing up on children's networks cost the same as CoD's commercials full of celebrities showing up during the fricking Super Bowl.
>Mario Odyssey and Smash Ultimate are also AAA games
Mario Odyssey? Yes.
Smash Ultimate? No. The game is still using assets from Brawl.
>The game is still using assets from Brawl.
that has nothing to do with a game being AAA
So Elden Ring isn’t AAA considering how it recycles a metric frickton of Souls assets?
>Fricking this
They couldn't even be BOTHERED to make new codec calls for the new characters and straight up reused the exact same ones from Brawl even in the codes they say Brawl instead of Ultimate.
This and half the DLC characters sucking are my two biggest gripes with Ultimate still love the game though.
>How did Nintendo become the market leader in the videogame industry?
Always was, Microsoft and Sony shot themselves in the foot with gamepass and putting games on pc respectively. Nintendo has a free road for dominance.
Actually Sony didn't shoot itself on the foot, is just that Sony's MO since PS1 days has been relying on the competition to frick up, they themselves don't do anything extraordinary just be there and that's what happening right now, Sony hasn't fricked up is just that Nintendo stopped doing the ridicule and that disrupted Sony's "strategy"
What's the high-end market thing again?
innovative and accessible product that appeals to people who like home console gaming and handheld portable gaming, bringing in a market in both the west and east, while supplying excellent first party games for it consistently, for a relatively cheap asking price for the system and its online features.
Like it or not, the switch was a genius move.
xbobos what the HECK do we do now???
run more developers into the ground
Piracy helping make their games popular by word of mouth. Piracy is very profitable for publishers, it's free marketing
They've been in the game much longer than either Sony or Microsoft were, and Sony basically killed any real Japanese competition Nintendo could have today over the course of the 90s.
Their hardware is cheaper than the competition's and their video games are good. The demographic that wants to buy Xboxes and PS5s is much smaller than the one that wants to buy Switches. It's only natural that they would be smoking the competition right now.
Doing actual games rather than interactive movies made of pure bloatware. Their heaviest game ever doesn't go above 20 Gigs (TotK).
Absolute morons will tell you "LE TENDIES GOY!".
Men of culture and factual knowledge will tell you that Nintendo's strenght has always been in their ability to hold on and capitalize on a niche. Back into the Late PS1 to the late PS2/Xbox era, All of remaining Nintendo's competitors started to move into the "T" and "M" market in order to keep up with their aging audience who moved from Nintendo towards Sony and Microsoft because of their more mature games. This lead to an increasing demand for more adult themed games and an increase in demand for cutting edge graphical fidelity and realism.
Meanwhile, Nintendo, which was not doing too well with the N64 and Gamecube, decided to focus mainly on the "E" audience. Idiots will tell you Nintendo only makes games for toddlers, but Nintendo's audience, from the very beginning, has always been general and nonspecific, so while their competition was leaving the "E" market, Nintendo was left with, virtually, zero competition and since they were seen as irrelevant by both their competitors and their competitors' "mature" audience, it allowed Nintendo to capitalize on the "E" market and specialize in games made for the general public. Games that are more experimental, trying out tech gimmicks instead of focusing their tech budget on nore powerful, performance oriented consoles, increasing a focus on their core, legacy brands and exploring the markrt of normalgays.
Notice how well it worked for Nintendo during the Wii era and how desperate it made every companies from console manufacturers to devs and publishers to tap into the normalgay market when they saw that there was a public for kids, average normos and grandmas that generated millions in profit for the company and that the money was not exclusively in the teenage/young adult market. It was a really strange time for videogames.
>How did Nintendo become the market leader in the videogame industry?
Doesn't matter, the others made $10b from ESG funding, cope
from what now?
Switch has video games.
where did ratchet and clank go?
PC
They make video games across multiple genres that dont cost a bajlllion burger bucks to make. Other companies need to realize that the "killer app" that appeals to everyone doesnt exist and has diminishing returns, providing more games with reasonable sales expectations means way more peoples interests are covered.
How is Eric taking this news?
Don't know, Darren, why did you forget to take your meds again?
so Eric is basically shitting his pants right now.
Nice
You certainly are, Darren. Lmao
Eric will disappear when you take your meds.
Mature a little E
You first, little D.
7 years on and people are STILL seething over the massive success of the Switch
Why?
By having games.
Turns out they were correct, Nintendo really is not competing with Sony and MS.
people buy a switch for a quick game of mario kart and mario party with friends and then it goes in the cupboard forever
people buy a PS5 to actually play games and constant AAA releases over the span of 8 years
it's easy to see why one values one over the other.
>sony and microsoft both try to compete with PCs
>upgrades every couple years, does all your streaming, social fricking media, etc.
>nintendo makes a video game console
>it plays video games (it gets a youtube app a few years in)
I feel like this is kind of a no-brainer. Of course, it's nothing compared to the greatness of a proper Nintendo handheld, but mixing their handheld dominance with their so-called home console of the generation was a smart business move.
-Hardware is relatively cheap
-Games are usually pretty good, generally polished and bug free, and have a wide appeal across ages and generations
-Wide variety of games across genre
-The Switch can truly be played as a handheld on the go, or a couch/sit down console on a big screen.
-Lot of games that are first party, and exclusive to its system - as opposed to non-exclusive games that can be played on any generic platform; This makes having a Nintendo console almost always a valid purchase if you're a variety gamer who seeks out more than just what is presented and universally available on other platforms.
easy when
>cheapest of all 3
>only handheld in the market
>kid and family appeal
>only console that can be modded
>the competition sucks
>Gen 2
>Release banger after banger. mario world, donkey kong country 1/2/3, yoshis Island, Super Mario RPG, link to the past, super metroid, star fox, kirby super star, super Mario kart, f-zero. Just to name a few
>get some of the best 3rd party exlusives at the time
Castlevania 4, crono trigger, megaman x, killer instinct, final fantasy 3, secret of mana, demons quest, harvest moon
>on top of that have most multiplats just be better on SNES
Then it gets frickin crazy
>the frickin game boy
>best hand held option at the time
>came with frickin tetras
>had some great titles even though most were just shat out console ports.
Then pokemon showed up.
For you not alive when pokemon first came out imagine the craziness of when pokemon go first launched but double it.
Pokemon was literally everything and everywhere for like 5 years and pokemania only fell off near the middle of gen 2 until it flat out died when gen 3 dropped.
That's how they became the juggernaut they have always been for nearly 30 years. Dont even need to get into the success of the switch and DS line.They are the video game embodiment of "too big to fail"
they're actually making games instead of movie games and FPSes.
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You already called half the thread Eric. Take your meds, bro.
No (You)s for the mentally ill
>Company makes games that don't lose value
Hm, it's a mystery.
It might shock you, but they actually make video games and their hardware is also cheap enough for them to actually turn a profit by selling it.
I honestly have no idea what Sony and MS are doing. It feels like Sony is trying its hardest to make titles which are as actively repulsive as possible to anyone actually interested in PLAYING video games while burning money on exclusivity which we know is not actually profitable due to them bringing their own stuff to PC, while Microsoft keeps buying devs and publishers but somehow still doesn't actually make video games. Weird as shit.
And I forgot to mention something. Sony will not release a ps6. They will go bankrupt before that happens.
They always were.
>make 2d platformer
>everyone starts making 2d platformers
>make 3d platformer
>everyone starts making 3d platformers
>make kart racer
>everyone starts making kart racers
>make party game
>everyone starts making party games
>make platform fighting game
>everyone starts making platform fighting games
Now you have devs trying to copy Splatoon and Pikmin will follow soon.
Nah, Nintendo haven't been trendsetters in over a decade. Nowadays it's Nintendo chasing the trends, like making Zelda an open world crafting game with RPG elements.
Then why are people making multiple Smash and MK clones these days?
They do? The only Smash clone I remember is that Multiversus game WB made but I haven't heard anything about that in months. Seems like a fairly dead genre to be honest outside of Smash itself. There are probably more Vampire Survivors and Dark Souls clones coming out any given day than the total amount of smash clones. I really don't see how Nintendo is setting any trends in the gaming industry. Even most open world games are far more inspired by games like Witcher 3 and Assassins Creed than BotW.
PlayStation All Stars Battle Royals
Slap City
Rivals of Aether
Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl
Brawhalla
Just to name a few smash clones
Isn't Nick ASB getting a sequel?
There’s leaks about it but I don’t account for them until a game is officially announced.
Squeenix literally just announced a Splatoon clone
Because they make cute and accessible devices for women and kids, which also slot far more smoothly into normal people's lives than the hulking performance-oriented monoliths modern consoles have become. Nobody should be surprised that they enjoy vastly more success.
ITT Zoomers lose their shit because they had to be told by a court that the company with the highest selling media franchise on the planet has been winning the console wars since before they were born, and that the constant hours they've spend making "zelda ubishit" threads in this echo chamber of a site has been entirely fruitless and undeniably pointless.
I saw someone itt say that Nintendo's current success is due to word of mouth via piracy, and that was a good reminder as to just how detached from reality and history a lot of the posters are here.
they aren't, as shown by most trhid parties skipping switch completely
Nintendo's "every sequel is a reiteration of the series" strat with all the same bosses and characters and so on with no story builds up a strong brand with families over time because upper middle class dad played Pokemon and ALttP as a kid. The kind of nerdy people that want to play other kinds of non-family-driven games have PCs and don't shell out $70 on launch day more than once every few years.
Trying to appeal to people that want novelty is over in videogames, it's all about consolidation of the genres into single flagship titles with strong brands now.
Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom have brought back enemies that haven't been seen in years.
Cheaper console option
No handheld competition
BlackRock wants to kill Sony and Xbox because they don't make children pedobait games
Blackrock has Sony by its balls tho
friendly reminder that Jim Ryan is literally an undercover spy for Niᥒtend𐐬
Jim Ryan is the Don Mattrick of Sony, which is impressive considering Phil Harrison worked for Sony.
Blackrock loves Nintendo
Then why do they barely invest in Nintendo compared to Sony?
It's because Nintendo does what Blackrock wants without a lot of investment already.
Lots of anti lgbt stuff and scarce PoC representation outside of Donkey Kong?
>forcing the player to crossdress and pretend to be a woman in botw is anti lgbtq
Lmao, nintendelusion at its finest. Blackrock also loves how all the pedophiles frick kids at smash tournaments
>not officially by Nintendo
Nintendo doesn't stop them either, which they could very easily do
Didnt Nintendo frick over and stop Smash tournaments?
>Nintendo doesn't need to do anything (and still can do their Jap things) to get money from Blackrock
Jews fear the samurai
>Nintendo doesn't stop them either
But Black, thats exactly why smashtrannies rage at Nintendo
https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/30/23485811/nintendo-smash-world-tour-shut-down-event-tournament
If that was the case then creatures like this would have been in every Nintendo game
Can't they get ride of their US branch that censor shit and replace them with good translators? Everything will be great then.
By actually making games, duh
Pretty simple really
They make games. Sony makes MAYBE one moviegame a year and relies entirely on third party games for everything else. Microsoft buys a bunch of studios, those studios turn into dumpster fires, and they release 1 game after 5 years then they're shut down. Nintendo simply makes more games
By actually having games.
Because they're the only company that still makes games.
PC players are incapable with coping at the reality that video games are meant to be fun. Not meant to be fumbling around with 20 layers of graphcis and Settings just to get it to run until you give up and play your Brazilian/Russian slop called CounterStrike.
it's easy to profit when the hardware is also profitable and not a loss leader, the switch uses 2009 tier hardware, particularly the CPU, that probably costs at max around 40-50 dollars to make in components. that alone is HUGE for their profit margins.
Ancient, forgotten magic
Their games and systems never drop in price and people still pay for it. It's like a cult.
Good thing every Nintendo system except for the N64 emulates near flawlessly.
Which way western man?
Microsoft and Sony fell to the third console curse
Nintendo had already suffered through it years ago
constantly making good games,
They made a decent handheld and their games aren't pozzed slop to the same extent as Sony/Microsoft
nintendo makes games unlike sony and microsoft
Also on PC.
They're the only ones who still make video games. Microsoft and Sony are too busy trying to appeal to everything but video games, plus all the other cancer they've pushed for over the years (paid online, microtransactions, nickel and dime DLC, early access, season passes and so on).
They make games tha cater to kids. Children are a goddamn goldmine across every medium.
>86% male
Sistersisters…………
>first party games costs about 50m~100m
>make about 300~400m
>comparing with Sony/Microsoft exclusives that costs 150m+ to make less money
How? Maybe graphics only appeal to dudebros in america and europe, while the rest of the world and people have brains that like to be extimulated by actual gameplay and fun?
The "standard" AAA pipeline is absolutely out of control.
It’s all spectacle, and spectacle is expensive.
Source for these Nintendo numbers? Marketing budget alone for each Nintendo games is 200m and more.
Source for those marketing budget numbers?
I asked first. I accept your concession.
>Spend like $20 million tops making a new Mario sidescroller
>Sells 10 million+ copies day 1
They spend $200k max, snoy.
It's partially a fluke, like most successful products, but going all in on their handheld pedigree is a big factor in the Switch's success.
Literally, and I mean LITERALLY, the only way Sony could compete is if they release a PS4 Portable that can independently download/play the PS4 digital library + have seemless Remote Play with PS5 Pro, which is specifically designed to seamlessly function with the handheld device divorce from a WiFi connection, and make all future PS5 games come with a digital PS4 playable version as well to use on the handheld; both having seemless cross save and cross progression function in some manner. Literally turn the Playstayion brand into an entire ecosystem between both powerful console experience and convenient handheld that sing with one another.
Instead we got this useless piece of shit, so Sony might as well just accept 2nd place for the rest of the gen.
1. tons of first party exclusives
2. they don't release on PC
This. I've been saying since day fricking 1 that Sony porting games to PC is blinding themselves with short term profits, but will hurt them hard in the long run. Sony should be turning the Playstayion brand into the console equivalent of Steam, making all PS4 releases onward completely backwards compatible moving forward, and use that huge library to their advantage for future hardware, like a PS4 Portable console.
>Take all the HD Remastered Sony made for the PS3
>All the PSOne Classic titles they had on PS3
>Port them all to the PS4/5 with up to 4k 120hz, or their standard release for PSOne Classics
>Release a PS4 Portable that can download and play them all + tje rest of the PS4 library and have seemless PS5 Pro Remote Play function
Every single shitposter on Ganker would buy that shit up, no matter how much they hate Sony. It's a goldmine they REFUSE to tap into for whatever reason.
>Release a PS4 Portable
It still won't play Nintendo exclusives, so no Ganker will not buy that shit.
Well they better do something fast because dozens of AAA game releases that were coming to the PS5 in the coming years are not coming anymore. It's gonna get real dry on PS5 soon. The Xbox is gonna be packed with games from Activision and Zenimax's dozens of studios while Sony's gonna have nothing to match their output.
Especially since every single PS release nowadays is met with
>yeah okay PC release when?
And people hold off on buying it because they figure it’s going to be released on PC eventually. EVEN IF IT ISN'T, the damage is done.
But there’s no waiting for a port for Nintendo's first-parties because everyone knows that hell will freeze over before Nintendo lets them onto another platform.
By selling as many, if not more copies than the competition while spending far less money to do it.
The Switch is like less than half the price of the Xbox series X and Playstation 5 and actually has exclusives that won't come out on PC. At that point, what are you even buying a different console for? The controllers?
cause they are the disney of the video game world. Their demographics are kids, which they have the stranglehold on
>family oriented
>heterosexual and white centric
>apolitical
>coomer friendly
>not being woke
>not promoting mental illness and children mutilation like ps and xbox
I think this is a winning formula.
It's over. This is the thread that completely destroyed the buttholes of Snoys and Xbots.Their bleeding will never stop.
>first-party revenue
Well no shit sherlock, 80% of Nintendo sales on Nintendo platforms are from Nintendo games
Why are people unable to accept that Playstation Xbox and Steam and Nintendo are different companies with different business models.
Covid lockdowns happened for like three whole years and prevented people from having anything other than a Switch.
>How did Nintendo become the market leader in the videogame industry?
Nintendo hasn't been around for more than 100 years for nothing. They have their stumbles but will always come out on top.
And yet Playstation still has better branding, social presence, community engagement, flow of quality releases and overall respect in the industry. No amount of "sales" and "profits" can make up for this.
>better branding
Yeah, almost as good as InstantPot
>social presence
>community engagement
Imagine caring about this shit instead of good games
>flow of quality releases
Like Flopspoken?
>overall respect
lel
When your market is adults who don’t want to grow up and every kid turning 5, you literally have an infinite growth market
Nobody actually wants to grow up, mi amigo. Some people just don't care and continue enjoying things they've always enjoyed unabated.
>Thinking walking simulators and grey point and shootys is real adult gaming
You might be the one who never grew up and now needs to compensate, chud.
There is a difference between a videogame and a movie, and Nintendo are one of the few companies who understands that.
Because it's competitors are all busy making essentially budget PC for poorgay instead of making game, there is nothing special about PS5 or Xbox other than it's cheap really.
This is an actually interesting topic, it's too bad it's getting spoiled by console war shit. It's interesting because Nintendo have a pretty complicated history of market share. In the 8-bit era Nintendo were winning in Japan, kicking ass in America, and lagging in other markets where they'd delayed entry. In the 16-bit era Nintendo were enjoying a comfortable first place in Japan, slowly clawed their way to first in America, and got their ass kicked in Europe and other markets. In the 32-bit era Nintendo were comfortable but declining behind the competition (more harshly outside of America), and of course the GameCube's sales were pretty paltry. Then the Wii was a novel smash hit, only for the Wii U to be a disaster right after. Then the Switch was Nintendo's biggest home console hit ever. Unlike the Wii though the Switch was more than a novelty, its gimmick had staying power, and it actually had strong third party support for its first few years. For these reasons, plus the fact that moviegames are becoming exhausting and lighthearted escapist media is becoming more popular, the new base Nintendo built with the Switch will probably buy the next Nintendo console in droves.
FRICK THE SWITCH!
Nintendo didn’t dilute their brand with homosex aids Black folk, it’s literally that simple. If they started replacing shit like link with Debra Wilson they would falter too
>Xbox is only 0.8B in revenue behind Sony
Huh. I was expecting it to be a larger gap than that.
Sony and Microsoft are Jacks of all trades, Masters of none
they have countless different divisions each and every single one of them a bigger failure than the last, all kept afloat by their one profitable division that usually stays solvent due to either monopolies, licensed tech or very little competition
Nintendo on the other hand makes videogames, AND ONLY VIDEOGAMES, no extra divisions, no tech R&D, no multimedia entertainment, no products line
each and every single thing they do, each tinny little coin they invest, is all geared to one singular goal, making and selling videogames AND NOTHING BUT VIDEOGAMES
TLDR: Sony and Microsoft brought a double barrel shotgun and grenade launcher to a Sniper competition
>How did Nintendo become the market leader in the videogame industry?
by not sucking the GRAPHIX Dick.
Industry is an a path of self destruction with bloated games productions.
We know now what Sony games on average cost going by the cost of Forbidden west and Last of Us 2.
200M + Marketing + rece to the bottom means games are likely unprofitable or razor thin margins.
Meanwhile Nintendo makes better games on a lower budget, shifting man power to gameplay over grahpics, motion cap, detailed sculpted balls sacks for a horse.
Honestly, I think its their "lateral thinking" philosophy championed by the likes of Yokoi since the start of Nintendo. Instead of using state of the art technology, nintendo focus on how they can best leverage "mature" (ie old) technology to create experience you cant find anywhere else. While this most oviously applies to their hardware development, i think it is true for their game design philosophy too. Rather than throwing millions upon millions into their cutscenes and graphics, they focus on gameplay instead of state-of-the-art presentation. This allows them to not only make games that people catch peoples attention, but also lets them make games for cheaper than their competetors. In turn, this brings in high sales for low costs, a winning formula for any business.
Nintendo games have no competition in a world where games take 6 years to make
There is no 3rd party mario
There is no 3rd party zelda
Rare is dead
they have a dedicated fanbase of 30 year old manchildren that never grew up
Softcore porn games by japanese and indies. thats why.
Nintendo focus on making solid games for the most part while others specially in the West focus on making movie games that you forget you even played it.
Cheap hardware
Making games for their audience hoping their non-core audience will also buys those product. Sony meanwhile... tried as hard as possible to vomit in their core audience while appealing daily to non-buyers and excreting only remakes alongside with awful new IPs targeting... again, surprisingly, no their core audience but western media instead.
Super Mario 3D All-Stars, Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Odyssey, Bowser's Fury, Super Mario Bros. U, Super Mario Maker 2, Mario Kart 8, Zelda Link's Awakening, Zelda Skyward Sword HD, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, Hyrule Warriors, Age of Calamity, Pokemon Ler's Go, Pokemon Sword/Shield, Pokemon BD/SP, Pokemon Legends Arceus, Metroid Dread, Metroid Prime Remastered, Xenoblade DE, Future Connected, Xenoblade 2, Torna TGC, Xenoblade 3, Future Redeemed, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Fire Emblem Engage, Fire Emblem Warriors, Fire Emblem Three Hopes, Bayonetta 1, 2 and 3, Yoshi's Crafted World, Luigi's Mansion 3, WarioWare GIT, DKC Tropical Freeze, M+R Kingdom Battle, M+R SoH, Paper Mario TOK, Kirby Return to Dreamland, Kirby Star Allies, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Astral Chain, Splatoon 2 and 3, Animal Crossing New Horizons, Super Smash Bros.Ultimate, ARMS
>Nintendo dominating revenue
>Xbox beat the shit out of the FTC and sony
As the snoys scream no one hears them because the celeberation of their death is far louder.
>Sony and Microsoft
>Sells consoles at a loss and hopes to make it up with software sales
>dev cycles for their games are multiple years long because of how fricking overproduced their games are now
>games they funded that have been worked on for years can just flop like it was fricking nothing
>Nintendo:
>sells consoles at a profit AND makes money off of software
>games aren't as ridiculously overproduced, so they have sane development cycles, and can get out multiple games people actually fricking want, especially with franchise games
Gee, I fricking wonder.
Making goyslop.
It's pretty simple - they stay away from stupid moronic political shit, and make fun, finished games that have broad family appeal.