How did Nintendo ever greenlight this?

THREE kids.

I mean, that's literally how it is though. I would prefer no love triangle, or harem route, as opposed to a Melia situation.

If the NG+ screen was just that on its own and they never double down on its implications in 3, you'd have a point, but it's retroactively proof because of 3.

Then doubling down on something slapped on later doesn't make it proof

Hasn't his wife been fairly hands-off with these games for ages now?

Is it true that Rex talks about troony shit in the DLC?

Alvis is retconned into a schizo hermaphrodite now so they can wring more shitty waifubait out of 1's corpse.

concession accepted

I'm not sure if my message was not clear enough, or if you are baiting me.
I was saying that every person who praises japanese voice acting is a hypocrite who refuses to watch movies that are not in their native tongue. This is a fact, especially if that person comes from USA, Germany, or France.

Who the frick said anything about live action? You don't know that Germany does dub for every movie?

Would English happen to be your second language? It would explain much of the confusion, at the very least

>only story elements
>no gameplay elements
This is why Xenoblade turned me off so much. I'm basically a passive observer while the game happens in the background. Where's my agency?

>Where's my agency
You as the player uncover the noppon scheme and liberate argentum
You also uncover the phoney king from Tantal
You also clean up the mess caused by Mor Ardain nearly inciting a war (also you save the emperor's life)
You also save the world, through gameplay. Not sure what agency you think is missing here.

>literally 'muh heckin' Rexarino was the bestest choice'
I suppose grasping the greys of political structures IS too much for your average 2homosexual.

Who would be a better fit by your estimation then? Seems like you don't have any answer to this, you just cry that it shouldn't be Rex despite all the factors that point to it. I didn't even think these needed mentioning before but he is literally best friends with major political powers in all the major nations (except Uraya, where his role with the mercs is more of a minor connection, but again they are the least relevant nation), and is also a descendant of the legendary hero Adamm, who is so important in this world that Tantal is in it's current predicament because they are afraid to admit they AREN'T related to him.

>all this headcanon
Just admit it doesn't make sense. Even the writers didn't try to make it make sense.

which part of it isn't an objective fact? Every single point I made is directly from something that happens in game, there's no subjectivity to any of it.

That's cool but they have zero reason to fuse together, hero or not

2 nations were already fused together (Mor Ardain and Torigoth), Tantal's leader is a sham who has no rightful claim to the throne, Argentum is a nation that only exists to trade money so they have no reason not to merge if everyone else is doing it. In the end only Mor Ardain and Uraya have any reason to remain separate. And there's no reason for them to do so in the new world, so merging into one unified nation is not at all out of the question, especially if they are led by someone idealistic like Rex.

>Barely has control over his own country as the nobles do shit behind his back all the time,
And those nobles suddenly started behaving themselves once Nia the 15 TP brainlet took over?
How does that make sense?

Outside of Nia being queen (and by extension Rex being king), we know nothing of the new governing system in xbc2's world, so there's no way to know what became of those nobles. Any answer would just be speculation based on nothing.

>and by extension Rex being king
He's never referred to as the king, not even in FR when they talk about Nia. That's speculation too.
>Any answer would just be speculation based on nothing.
Your entire answer is speculation is based on nothing. Monolith avoided addressing it because they themselves knew it doesn't make sense. They just needed to have a parallel to Melia being the queen in her world, that's the sole reason.

>I've demonstrated several objective facts that paint Rex as a viable candidate for a leader in a post xbc2 world
And yet FR doesn't ever refer to him as such. So that's headcanon

>Tantal's leader is a sham who has no rightful claim to the throne
What claim does Nia have?

>YOU CAN’T SAY THAT, THAT’S SPECULATIVE
>does nothing but speculate, just in a way that rims Takahashi’s lazy ass that shat out 3’s story

>literally 'muh heckin' Rexarino was the bestest choice'
I suppose grasping the greys of political structures IS too much for your average 2homosexual.

That's cool but they have zero reason to fuse together, hero or not

And all of these nations wouldn’t immediately join together once the land problem was fixed, only Uraya and Mor Ardain were fighting over the resources. Those two would still exist as individual countries. Tantal was isolationist and Zeke is next in line to rule even if his family’s claim to royalty is a lie, he still has all the knowledge necessary to rule a country. Leftheria didn’t have a major government that we know of, so that one is up in the air. Niranira is the actual chairman at the end of the story so the trade guild is not disorganized like you say it is.
The only nation that didn’t have a working leadership is Leftheria, and that’s only because they aren’t relevant to the story so we don’t learn about if there is one. That’s the only one that Nia could have become a queen for, not all of Alrest.

>Would rather REEEE about dangerhairs and transdykes, then clean up the fandom
No arguments then?

We had decent fricking threads before these dopamine-addicted morons jumped on. People could actually embrace the sex appeal of the games without making it the only thing they'd talk about.

Anon, that hasn't been true at any point in the entire Xeno series. Even xenogears was nothing but people jerking off how totally better it is than final fantasy, and how the waifus are heckin cute and valid, to the point where they blatantly excuse the lazy second disk that's just 50 hours of exposition.

What about my posts? am I not typing out my grievances in a respectful manner? You act like I'm posting wojaks and calling people trannies. All I'm saying is that the games could use less story and cutscenes, and this pisses people off. I don't get it.

Please elaborate.

Ah, XCX is the one i didn't play. But i like XC games' gameplay. Both exploration and combat. I guess XC2's combat would be my favourite among them, though the game itself is also the one with the biggest issues.

>If they speak to me like trash, then I'm supposed to smile and be happy about it. Being unable to backhand Mythra after her stupid crap was aggravating.
Yeah, well, JRPG are like that. The MC is not "you". I guess normal RPGs are more to your liking, then.

XC3's combat system is more streamlined and polished, but XC2's is the best one imho.
Also, XC3's chain attacks are fun, but they fell like a "win" button. At least in XC2 you had to build up your chain attack during normal combat, and keep your team alive to keep the gauge charged. In case you didn't kill the enemy, you would put yourself in danger by having depleted the gauge, too.

I will provide for the family. Raising the kids is the woman's job.

Do you have any idea how game development works? Seriously, some of this shit is absolutely mind-boggling to read.

Yes, frame rate problems are a thing, and can hamper an experience, but some games legitimately cannot run higher than 30fps on certain hardware and still achieve their desired quality in the gameplay and visual departments. The world of BotW/TotK is the fundamental basis for which its gameplay is built, and the primary appeal for the game, but a world that large is not possible on Switch hardware without cranking down the framerate a bit to accommodate and remain stable. This isn’t a case of devs simply being bad at their jobs, if anything the fact that TotK runs as well as it does on Switch is a technical miracle on its own.

>Games can’t just be whimsical adventures anymore
There it is. Again, you’re conflating your own personal preferences with what games should be with objective quality. Yes, there are plenty of games that have very limited story and lack cutscenes as a result. These sorts of games are still popular and made quite frequently these days (Super Mario Wonder and Sonic Superstars literally just came out). (1/2)

Why are you bothering answering seriously to fricking ACgay, the moron that genuinely argued chess is a movie game because there's nothing you can do on your opponent's turn? You might as well be talking directly to a brick wall, nothing you argue could ever change that autist's mind, he's made his "crusade" on "movie games" his ENTIRE life and personality for over a decade now.

(2/2)

>This is the rhetorical equivalent to arguing that movies shouldn’t have sound simply because the medium primarily relies on visuals to convey itself, or that books should never have pictures.
I unironically hold these viewpoints when movies and books abuse their positions. Like when a movie has no idea how to properly take advantage of sound design, and what should be a quiet horror scene is filled with background characters burping and expelling all manner of bodily noises, your ambience is now completely destroyed. Yet the director defends it as "artistic license". On the contrary, I just think he's lazy. Or like when a book is nothing but pictures, but the pictures make no sense, they're not even in order, so it's just random imagery. There's no attempt whatsoever to make it cohesive, so at that point yes I would argue against using pictures in books. I'm sorry if one bad apple spoils the bunch, but if every apple thinks it can get away with it, then you have a rotten apple pie for everyone.

>That doesn’t mean all games shouldn’t have one, or that it’s wrong for a game to try and do so.
What I'm arguing is that every game should minimize the narrative. Gameplay should always take center stage. That effectively means permanently discarding certain elements from the medium, like "win in the fight, but lose in a cutscene" moments. If you want your bad guy to come back another day, you're gonna have to come up with better reasoning, and better gameplay to accomodate it. Gameplay-story integration shouldn't leave you frustrated.

>A story like Xenoblade could not be conveyed through gameplay alone
I staunchly disagree. You just need to rip apart the story and characters. The gameplay is still salvageable, but it too needs to be worked on. For starters, it should employ more elements from games like Rogue Galaxy, where verticality matters more and jumping plays a vital role in-combat. (2/2)

>Do you have any idea how game development works?
I do know that games like Minecraft and Terraria can have filling and vast adventures without all the cinematic accompaniment of a modern hollywood AAA game. So clearly they must have some secret that most game devs don't have.

>but some games legitimately cannot run higher than 30fps on certain hardware
That's just making excuses. Every game can run at 60 FPS on switch, the question is what sacrifices you're willing to make, to achieve it. If you want a clean 60 FPS, then maybe you have to cut the graphics, cut the story, limit the polygon count on environments and NPCs. I'm not asking for a hyper realistic game with le epic PS5 level graphics. Infact, if you could pull off a game that looked like a PS2 title, you'd still be in the green. But you should still be willing to make that sacrifice. My favorite game, Terraria, runs at 60 FPS even on the switch, and that's because fancy realistic graphics were not a priority, neither was scripted cinematic storytelling. It limits these things, and because of it, the game is allowed to shine in the game department.

That being said, games can go in other directions given the flexibility of the medium and the breadth of developer skill in the industry. Your argument is inherently limiting to what the medium is capable of.

This is the rhetorical equivalent to arguing that movies shouldn’t have sound simply because the medium primarily relies on visuals to convey itself, or that books should never have pictures.

Games don’t necessarily all need narrative, I agree, plenty can exist without one and be just fine. That doesn’t mean all games shouldn’t have one, or that it’s wrong for a game to try and do so.

A story like Xenoblade could not be conveyed through gameplay alone, it’s simply impossible. The cutscenes are necessary to fill in the gaps that the gameplay cannot cover. And no, before you say it, you can’t just add more gameplay systems on top of one another to replace those cutscenes in specific instances; it would cause file and development bloat the likes of which have been previously unseen.

These choices aren’t made out of laziness, it’s pure necessity to fulfill the creative vision of the developers on the team. Any creative project is a balancing act, and less-than-optimal sacrifices need to be made in service of said vision, which does change through the course of development. Those priorities may not align with what you personally enjoy, and that’s fine, but that’s not the discussion we’re having here and it’s frankly egotistical at its core to expect every game to cater to your preferences alone.

As someone who has worked in the games industry for years now (going on roughly eight) and has worked on titles both simple and cutscene heavy, I can assure you very few decisions during the development process are made as the result of laziness or apathy. Nobody actively seeks out to make a product that runs poorly or contains blemishes in noticeable areas.

This is my last reply to you. (2/2)

>That being said, games can go in other directions given the flexibility of the medium and the breadth of developer skill in the industry. Your argument is inherently limiting to what the medium is capable of.
I disagree. I am looking at a game that loves piling cutscenes ontop of eachother, and I see potential being wasted. There are so many times you could have the gameplay be an active participant, but the devs can't be bothered, so they just turn it into a cutscene, like any time two characters are fighting, that could be a fight or a boss or anything interactive, but the story just can't restrain itself. It HAS to go a specific way. That sours the whole experience. Like in Xenoblade 2, when Malos fights Pyra. That's a boring cutscene. It should've been more gameplay oriented. Isn't that the whole point of the medium? (1/2)

>What are you talking about?
Environmental narrative, IE the reason why you do something without needing a cutscene to tell you to do it. Like a metroidvania that just lets you explore because you're naturally curious for adventure. I don't need a princess to rescue, I just want to explore and climb that mountain, and collect a brand new powerup that might be there.

>Yes, and movies got along just fine before they introduced sound to them. But we still introduced sound to movies and nobody went around saying
I'm starting to doubt this, because of the ever-ballooning budget that movies have. They can't just have sound, but now they need fancy cinematic orchestras and fancy voice actors, and before you know it, you're spending 10 billion dollars on the next marvel movie. Is it worth it to waste that money? If it meant the destruction of modern hollywood mannerisms, a return to silent films would unironically be a good decision.

>False assumption that cutscenes and storytelling through gameplay are at odds with each other.
There are several times when they conflict, like in a previous post mentioned where you beat a boss, but the game decides that you lose because the boss has to come back later. Like said before, there are so many better ways to do this. I've even seen shmups handle this better, where you fight a boss early on, and then when you beat him, his armor comes off and shows a second form, and you fight that later. The game doesn't artbitrary decide that you lose and then kill your character in a cutscene. they're a little more clever about it.

No cutscenes, no story, just have me see the princess in a cell or a cage somewhere REALLY early on, and have it so rescuing her gives you a powerup. Kind of like how a metroid game will tease you with a powerup early on, but you cannot obtain it until you have a specific move that lets you reach there. Give me GAMEPLAY incentive to care.

>I'm starting to doubt this, because of the ever-ballooning budget that movies have
>a return to silent films would unironically be a good decision.
AC-gay, defender of silent films

Yes, unironically. I'd bet dollars to donuts that even the earliest silent film would still be better than the latest slop being made for hollywood audiences that gets dropped right onto netflix.

>man falls on banana
>he falls over
>haha how hilarious

versus

>DUDE WE NEED TO STOP THANOS FROM USING THE DEATH STAR TO DESTROY HOGWARTS!
>here's 50 celebrities that we're each paying 100 billion dollars for, so they can make snarky quips throughout 5 hours of the film

That silent film is looking pretty nice.

>I'm starting to doubt this, because of the ever-ballooning budget that movies have
>a return to silent films would unironically be a good decision.
AC-gay, defender of silent films

>But as far as why Mio over Glimmer that's not playing favorites.
I mean.... It kind of is.
>She leads the interaction basically telling her don't commit suicide
>commits suicide 1000 years later anyways
lmao

>there's the very nuanced difference between jumping off a cliff in a middle of nowhere and giving your clone a lease on life to fix your frick ups,
If Nia had just given the key to Glimmer then no, there wouldn't have been much difference in the grand scheme of things

>M gives the key to Ghondor who later ends up in prison resulting in the prison sequence
Nia couldn't have possibly known any of that. You're basically saying "it happened that way because the plot needed it to happen that way"
If Glimmer had the key, then her house would've just kept it safe for 1000+ years or whatever and then gave it to the party when they reached the City.
The contrived shit with Ghondor and the prison exists solely to set up the execution scene through forced melodrama

>You can't take it for granted that Glimmer had her house at that time
You're getting too caught up on the details. Glimmer would've just kept it herself until she died and then given it to her kids, then it would've passed to her grandkids, etc until it just became family tradition.
>She gives the key to her descendant who she knows isn't a Moebius by choice
Bit of a tangent, but Nia knowing this makes no sense even though the script obviously makes it seem like she does know. She wasn't hooked up to Poppi during this time so how would she even know that? Was she always just secretly stalking N and M from the shadows?
>It's not like she gave the key to Dirk.
N, X, Y or Z still could've found it at anytime. Honestly it's kinda shitty writing that she kept it a secret for centuries. Like where did she hide it when N was anally raping her?

>tfw XC3's plot requires you to believe that Nia was such a moron that she'd rather take a far more risky option when two entire worlds hang in the balance solely for the 'muh bio dautter' angle
>tfw haremshit fanservice actually caused XC3 to have long-term story issues
But remember guys, they had all of this super planned out right after Xenoblade 1 wrapped!

Something else to consider is that they had to keep Glimmer a secret until the DLC came out. But retroactively this does make it seem like Nia was making really moronic decisions.
There's another example of this shit where the "we can't reveal [thing] until FR comes out" made a weird inconsistency - for some reason Linka names her house "Cassini" instead of her actual last name (von Genbu)
Obviously the real reason is because they couldn't put the name von Genbu on the City statues, or it would spoil part of FR's reveal. But in-universe, I guess Linka chose a different name because she just hates her real last name? I have no idea, it's so fricking dumb. XC3's existence is a mistake.

>She gives the key to her descendant
But Glimmer is also her descendant. People are always going on about how the harem is just a huge happy family and the kids have 3 moms and blah blah blah. So wouldn't Glimmer be a better candidate than M, considering Glimmer isn't part of the enemy faction? Or is Takahashi actually saying that blood + marriage relationships are the only ones that matter and Nia is actually a spiteful c**t?

A lot of XC3's story feels like a first draft that got rushed into production.

Wasn't Nia already in deep sleep long before the time Glimmer got liberated from her flame clock?

And I have a huge problem with Mio getting the Moebius eye because the entire swap falls apart with a bit of scrutiny.
>If Noah is interlinking with M then he should see M's memories since the interlinkers don't get to pick and choose what memories they show. Since Noah is extremely observant he would have noticed but we hear nothing from him during the battle.
>Also on interlinking, how is M able to interlink with Noah in the first place? Interlink partners for Ouroboros are set in stone, and M isn't Mio. If it's just Mio's body that's required for interlinking similar to how Moebius powers are tied to the body, then how is Mio able to interlink with Noah using M's body? If being Ouroboros is tied to the soul and not the body and M and Mio and Noah and N are considered to be the same soul, then why don't all four of them have the Moebius and Ouroboros eye the moment Vandham hits the stone?
>Where is Mio's Moebius core? She doesn't have one on her model after the swap.
The game breaks its own rules to make the swap work. I don't have a problem with N fusing with Noah because that one really straightforward.
>Noah and N fight, talk it out and agree to walk together.
>They grab hands, both of their Irises light up and they literally start glowing.
After that N disappears. However for Mio and M, that fusion conveniently doesn't happen until after the Homecoming because, once again, their Irises are still the normal ones before M dies.
Also why are you talking about the ending scene of the worlds separating? That scene wasn't what I was talking about and isn't relevant, it's just the scene where everyone is looking at the two worlds in the grassy field. If you're saying that it was a space created, then how did they get there, who made it, and how do they get back?

This conversation is going in circles.

But that's just what M did.
The poppi surveillance system existed before she went into hiding. But if you assume she only used it after hiding out, I guess she just picked up on the subtext. Inferred after recognizing M is being moody and suicidal.
And that bedroom was 100% dead. N never left the couch. Also N, X, Y and Z could've found the key no matter where it is. A lot of things are predicated on Z being Z and sticking to his let the flow decide mantra. So when it comes to opposing Z it's less about being sneaky and more about feeling unironically. If the right people don't get the key, it might as well not exist at all.

Noah is able to pick out that Mio is fighting to the Agnian offseeing tune the first time they fight, he does notice the small details. And there aren't an "oddball of memories" that are swarming around when he's interlinking with M, it's an entirely different set of memories. As for the costumes, that would be the same as saying that Taion's core crystal isn't canon either because we don't see it outside of the dlc outfits. If we were never meant to see it, then why model it in the first place? Same with Nia in 2 before she reveals her Blade form. We never see Gormotti Nia with her core crystal but it's implied to be there, and it's visible on her swimsuit outfit. All Moebius have a core. Mio is now Moebius, therefore it should be on her body.
You're right that they're existing as separate bodies prior to M's death, because they are separate people at that time. Then M dies, and suddenly Mio has the Moebius eye but didn't have it at any point prior to that. I don't care about what you're assuming with N because if he did turn into motes they would have shown some motes, you're assuming what's happening to make it somehow bend to fit the previous nonsensical fusion.

It's the same set of memories because they shared memories with the body swap.
And the difference is that you're talking about the absence of something. They had to add the core crystal to the model. They didn't make a pre-chapter 6 and post-chapter 6 version of the swimsuit costume. Those are different. Even if you don't care about any assumptions regarding N, the fact that Mio didn't have the Moroboros iris prior doesn't matter. The first time we see the iris is after M fades into motes and there's no longer two instances of Mio existing at the same time. If there was a time to fuse, it would when only one Mio remains.

>She gives the key to her descendant
But Glimmer is also her descendant. People are always going on about how the harem is just a huge happy family and the kids have 3 moms and blah blah blah. So wouldn't Glimmer be a better candidate than M, considering Glimmer isn't part of the enemy faction? Or is Takahashi actually saying that blood + marriage relationships are the only ones that matter and Nia is actually a spiteful c**t?

M also isn't part of the enemy faction. She isn't there by choice. She spent incarnation after incarnation fighting Moebius and ended up as Moebius after supremely unfortunate events. If M was going around wiping colonies for fun there'd be a point but she wasn't. We know she wasn't because one of the things she did early as a consul was allow soldiers to reach the end of their 10th term and die

>I guess it might be to show how stupid Moebius are
If you need your villains to be absolute bumbling morons in order for your plot to work, you can't also depict them as an almighty organized empire that your heroes look like insects trying to fight.

I don't see why it has to apply to just one Xenoblade 3 just has it infinitely worse, because the villains there are the empire that actually took control of everything, where in 2 they're a terrorist faction.

I don't think it's ever clearly stated how long it takes for Torna to form up properly from the end of Golden Country to when we meet them in 2's Main Story.

It was just a half dead Malos and Jin at the start. Even with how strong they are, they couldn't take on the whole world in that state. At some point, they find Mik, then recruit the siblings and later Nia. To be clear, for most of that time, they were just searching for Mythra, and once they found her, only then did they bother grabbing Rex to open her seal.

It was great actually, designs were cool

It looked cool doesn't excuse dogshit writing. We're not talking popcorn flick, we're talking about an extensive 80 hour story that was supposed to act as an ending to two other 80 hour stories. In that regard, the story might even be worse than X, because at least that had the excuse of 'Maybe the sequel (lol) will address some of this'.

holy SOUL

holy COPE

X has coomer shit as optional side costumes along with dozens of other costumes, 2 has coomer shit as the main designs. Its not comparable you disingenuous homosexual.

These are the canon outfits for all the characters.

kino

>Worthless twat knows he has no argument, but must defend BRAND

>The theater room isn't an HQ based on how Mio talks about it. The Moebs don't know where they are or that they're in Origin. Z controls all of that.
Why does that matter? The point is that she keeps the key in the same place where all the other Moebius are. It would obviously be safer in the city.
>Z isn't performing cavity searches
But N is
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but 2 is the most popular xeno game on reddit, so wouldnt that make it a reddit game?

pvre KINO

It looked cool doesn't excuse dogshit writing. We're not talking popcorn flick, we're talking about an extensive 80 hour story that was supposed to act as an ending to two other 80 hour stories. In that regard, the story might even be worse than X, because at least that had the excuse of 'Maybe the sequel (lol) will address some of this'.

>The referenced the thing I recognize AND I CLAPPED!

Just like every piece of praise you levied at XC3?

>If you think that's cope, then whatever.
I do because you posted those things in response to criticisms of the writing, as if good aesthetics magically make the writing okay. Just make a separate post if you wanna gush about the aesthetics being good.

>Was she running around Aionios?
Yes? We see her standing on some random fricking cliff.
>Her having more freedom of movement prior would give her more information not less.
How so? Poppi can scan the entire world. That's obviously a more efficient method of gathering information than doing it on foot. Like, do you think she was sneaking into KevesAgnus camps to gather Intel?? I genuinely don't understand what you meant by this
The only friendly factions for Nia would've been the city, which we know she didn't visit, or the Liberators, but Rex acts like he hasn't seen her either

>She on the cliff to find M specifically
And she knew how to find her there because....? Feelings I guess?

>How Nia entrusting her kid with a really important mission any less organic than any of the aforementioned events?
Because none of the things you mentioned involved delivering the special victory Macguffin to the enemy faction

Does Nia have the ability to just teleport to anywhere in Aionios? Or was M just sulking on that one cliff for weeks while Nia hiked across the continent to find her?

>it's fine that there's a plot hole because the devs were lazy
Since you went full moron I'll address your point about why plots happen and why the events in 1 and 2 were fine but in 3 it falls apart.
>why is rex descended from addam
Because Addam wanted to build a village away from all the conflict after the Aegis war. After several hundreds of years, Addam's blood is in practically every Leftherian. Jn and Malos specifically requested a Leftherian, not Rex, for salvaging Pyra. It was pure coincidence that Rex took the job.
>why did mumkhar turn into a face mechon
Egil was turning all of the captured Homs into Face Mechon to siphon the Bionis' food. Mumkhar is another victim of Egil's actions.
>isn't it convenient that shulk arrived in makna around the same time melia was fighting a telethia
Yes, it is a coincidence, since both parties were in the same area at the same time. It's also a coincidence that the party in 3 were the ones to get hit with the Ouroboros stone. Generally chance events like that are used to introduce characters in stories or to kick off the plot.
>how is nia entrusting her kid with a really important mission any less organic than any of the aforementioned events
Because at the time there's a really reliable group called the City that's either just starting up and is known to oppose Moebius or has been thriving for several years and hasn't been annihilated. Nia should know about the City, so there's no reason to place an important object like that in the hands of someone who is a part of Moebius since that's much riskier than giving it to the City who can protect it. Considering that M ends up giving it to the City as well, giving it to M was pointless.

>Realistically she could make the track there in less than an hour depending on where the cliff was in relation to where she was at the time
I'm sorry, what? Are you saying you can reach anywhere in Aionios within 1 hour? That is blatantly untrue, the party takes several days to venture across the regions.
>M isn't on the run from anyone. Her location at a given time isn't erratic. She found a person who isn't trying to hide from her.
M being "on the run" isn't the point. Rex and Shulk spent several centuries in Aionios, yet they only stumbled upon Glimmer and Nikol during FR, which was close to the end of their time there. So Nia stumbling across M on the exact same day she decides to go into hiding is a huge plot contrivance.

They shouldn't have written themselves into a corner with the body swap then. If the game shows me details and then suddenly ignores them I will question it. Every Moebius prior to M had a core. Even N has a core and he also uses super special MC Moebius armor. But then M doesn't, or it magically disappears from her body for no good reason. Nobody in game addresses it, but they did bother to address other details like how Mio isn't able to use her Moebius powers after the swap is finished, so I would expect them to cover everything. All they would have needed to do is have one line talking about it, or to have it appear on Mio somewhere. But they didn't because they were lazy and wanted to rush to the end of the story at that point.

>member of the original city. Fought Z on several times, and failed which is still a pretty good track record
So did N but I wouldn't trust him with an important item.

>She's moody because she's regretful about being Moebius
Which is directly intertwined with her boyfriend drama.

>you're not meant to see mio's moebius core so we won't model it
>you're not meant to see taion's core crystal but we will model that
Also it's interesting how you're fixated on this when it all stems from the shitty swap. Xenoblade 3 is a fine game if you approach everything with a "don't sweat the details" mindset and you just want some emotional moments but a lot of things in the game don't add up.

>The theater room isn't an HQ based on how Mio talks about it. The Moebs don't know where they are or that they're in Origin. Z controls all of that.
Why does that matter? The point is that she keeps the key in the same place where all the other Moebius are. It would obviously be safer in the city.
>Z isn't performing cavity searches
But N is
lmao gottem

Eh, the fact that the key ends up in the city anyways kinda proves that even the writers know that giving it to M is just a tangent that doesn't really make sense in the story's context. It's just a detour because they want to force their boring drama.

>The poppi surveillance system existed before she went into hiding.
But Poppi was only feeding Nia information while she slept. That's why she was hooked up to the machine while sleeping. How would Poppi even send info to Nia while she's awake and running around Aionios? Does Poppi have a 5G wireless connection to Nia's brain??

Oh and I forgot
>Inferred after recognizing M is being moody and suicidal
somehow Nia instantly knows this means M is having boyfriend issues?

>I'm just pretending to be moronic!

because I want to know who is the gray hair girl. no one cared who she was until OP posted that pic