How did the grass starters go from the unpopular choice to the best overall designs? Only Rillaboom looks bad.

How did the grass starters go from the unpopular choice to the best overall designs? Only Rillaboom looks bad.

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Water
    Always sucked
    >Grass
    Used to suck but literally has only one dogshit design (rillaboomer)
    >Fire
    All mid at best

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah Water is the best option

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Implying
        Lapras, Vaporeon and Starmie mogged Blastoise hard.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      you and OP are both homosexuals

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sceptile is pretty much tied with Blaziken.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, plus Sceptile was competing with both Treecko and Grovyle in the top 30, with Blaziken's evos nowhere close, and still beat Blaziken by a few hundred votes. I'd say Sceptile is easily the more popular of the two

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based
        Makes me sad they they continue to shill Blaziken despite Sceptile being more popular. I love them both, but Sceptile’s my favorite.
        Funny enough, same exact thing with Decidueye. Incineroar seems to be pushed a bit more, despite not being as popular if I’m not mistaken.
        Feels good to see Meowscarada pushed so much. Grass finally wins a Gen.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Incineroar seems to be pushed a bit more, despite not being as popular if I’m not mistaken
          That's because of baracat being made a prime VGCmon, both the cat and owl were pushed (Decidueye even got a regional form), but the owl just can't beat Aslowla stats on top of grass being ass a typing.

          Meow has better function due to being popular all around, and the other starters being either way too complicated (skeledirge) or unpopular (quaquaval), and having some middle road use in early VGC

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    except quiladin or whatever the frick, the whole lines are mid at worst and grovyle at best

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venusaur: 8/10
    Meganium: 5/10
    Sceptile 9/10
    Torterra: 10/10
    Serperior: 6/10
    Chesnaught: 5/10
    Decidueye: 7/10
    Rillaboom: 3/10
    Meowscarada: 0/10

    If anything, they got worse.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Chesnaught should be less than or equal to Rillaboom.
      In general starters have gotten worse over time. But had some serious winners in newer games like Sceptile, Torterra, Serperior, and Decidueye.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed, grass starters for the first 3-4 gens were kino

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why does this board circlejerk Torterra so hard? It's good, but not fricking 10/10 good.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fire used to be shilled like crazy every generation but they've been dropping the ball hard with fire starters lately and water has always been a mixed bag so grassgays are on the rise. We finally got the shill starter spot too, though honestly by default...

        Massive portion of this board and general playerbase started with Gen 4.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just because you're a zoomer doesn't mean all the millennial posters stopped existing. BW hate threads are not trolling by the way, they're genuine.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >bringing up unova out of nowhere
            You alright, sis?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't even know which gen Unova is but I'm assuming you mean gen 5, you're delusional.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >out of nowhere
                He literally claimed everyone was a zoomer that started with gen 4 you dumbass.

                Again, asking how Gen 5 has anything to do with my post

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you dumb? If you started with gen 4 then of course you'd think gen 5 is good and not extremely shitty.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                But nothing in my post had anything to do with unova, the original reply was in response to someone asking why torterra was rated so highly, how did you to gen 5 from that?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the original reply was in response to someone asking why torterra was rated so highly
                I don't care, I'm talking to

                Fire used to be shilled like crazy every generation but they've been dropping the ball hard with fire starters lately and water has always been a mixed bag so grassgays are on the rise. We finally got the shill starter spot too, though honestly by default...

                Massive portion of this board and general playerbase started with Gen 4.

                specifically that claimed most people on here started with Gen 4 which is a blatant lie and cope.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                what is the truth then?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                For the 3rd time, what the frick does that have to do with Gen 5. Why did you bring it up unprompted? Are you actually alright, sis?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Doggy style florian
                unf

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you care so much about gen 5? I sure don't, which is exactly why I talked shit about it. You're the only one that wants to discuss that shitty gen here.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think you're actually alright, sis...

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                If someone insults someone for being underage and liking gen 6 does that mean they can't talk shit about gens 7-9? You're not the brightest person on this board.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomers like gen 5 more than other people, that's a pretty accepted fact.

                neither of those points make

                Just because you're a zoomer doesn't mean all the millennial posters stopped existing. BW hate threads are not trolling by the way, they're genuine.

                a post that makes any sense. it looks like he replied to the wrong post and is doubling down and refusing to admit it lol

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomer detected.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                you just confirmed it

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the original reply was in response to someone asking why torterra was rated so highly
                I don't care, I'm talking to [...] specifically that claimed most people on here started with Gen 4 which is a blatant lie and cope.

                actual schizophrenia being witnessed

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zoomers like gen 5 more than other people, that's a pretty accepted fact.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                no?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >out of nowhere
              He literally claimed everyone was a zoomer that started with gen 4 you dumbass.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because he is
        Simple as

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Deshitueye is just as much of fursuit garbage as any of the surrounding starters, gay.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Decidueye is a dogshit starter carried by controversy and a god tier first stage

        Hisuian Decidueye otherwise is based, but since it has actual competition, people see how "bad" it is.

        Everyone saying Meganium is bad is just a gameplaygay. The design is 10/10.

        based

        >Pretty sure the three galar starters are all equally hated
        Not really?

        >trashnime defines popularity
        a day of the week ends in Y

        Using its chest as drums makes sense, but the overall design of this one just looks worse.
        Someone needs to make a Zarude + Rillaboom fusion. A perfect blend of those two would be a phenomenal starter.

        pic somewhat related

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Anime chooses the most liked starter according by fans
          Correct rillaboomer

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >according to fans
            Rillaboom has its flaws, such as having the worst inspiration, worst type, as well as having the worst signature move and of course shipping autism over-inflating Cinderace and Inteleon's popularity even more, but that's irrelevant.

            Yes, trashnime manipulates people. For example, something that a pokemon has in its pokedex can be perfectly explored in the anime, and not in the games, and this makes people like a species more.

            Clearly people would rather choose a purple pile of goo over a badass rhino/rabbit because of the design, not because it was an Ashmon.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Trashnime manipulates people.
              They shilled leon's rillaboom into making it the beast that sweeped diantha's team and that wasn't still enough to brainwash people into liking it this simply means he's just that shit

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, Rillaboom is based. Meowscarada is the worst designed one.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Nah, Rillaboom is based. Meowscarada is the worst designed one.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were always one of the best choices if it wasn't the fire type, water has had it far worse.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venu 8/10
    Meganium 9/10
    Sceptile 7/10
    Torterra 6/10
    Serperior 10/10
    whatever the gen 6 one was called 2/10
    Decidueye 9/10 / H-Decidueye 6/10
    Rillaboom 6/10
    Meowscarada `9/10

    All breddy gud, only gen i didn't go grass were gens 3 and 6, Sceptile is good but not as good as the other two, Chespin was cut but Quilladin is the worst starter ever.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone saying Meganium is bad is just a gameplaygay. The design is 10/10.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The design is 10/10
      Johturds are delusional

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        no you gay c**t the design is just that good

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >johturd
        I hope you know that term is now going to be heavily associated with the shartygay just like "borts" is with discord.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Decidueye is a horrible design and ruined its line.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venusaur and Sceptile are the only grass starters I like. For water it's Blastoise, Swampert, and Samurott. For fire it's Charizard, and Typhlosion.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    are you baiting? the designs almost literally only get worse

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Cool ambigous dino-frog monster
    >Let's slap a flower on a dinosaur and pretend it's a monster design
    >Literally just a fat dinosaur
    >Literally just a turtle with shit on it's back
    >Literally just a snake but at least has some design elements that makes it interesting
    >Cool buff warrior glyptodon
    >Badass owl/Badass owl but japanese
    >Let's put a green wig on an ugly gorilla and call it a monster design
    >Werewolf but for cat people with illusory abilities

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venusaur: 10/10
    Meganium: 6/10
    Sceptile 7/10
    Torterra: 8/10
    Serperior: 9/10
    Chesnaught: 5/10
    Decidueye: 6/10
    Rillaboom: 4/10
    Meowscarada: 4/10

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    every other thread I enter has some autist spamming "shitnoh" and "shatinum" or moronic genwarring about gen 5.

    unironically have better pokemon discussion on Ganker these days

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't like gen 4 either if that makes you cope any better.

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yas or Nah

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love the idea but it still looks dumb

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      titty cancer

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Using its chest as drums makes sense, but the overall design of this one just looks worse.
      Someone needs to make a Zarude + Rillaboom fusion. A perfect blend of those two would be a phenomenal starter.

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    How did we go from cool dinosaurs and reptiles to the catgirl

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Japanese franchise

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        what the hell is wrong with the Japanese

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venusaur: Least popular
    Meganium: Also least popular
    Sceptile: Probably a three way tie, all hoenn starters are well liked
    Torterra: Honestly not sure, maybe the least popular? I think the sinnoh starters are all pretty well liked too
    Serperior: Easily the most popular
    Chesnaught: Does anyone actually like this thing?
    Decidueye: Probably in the middle of the three
    Rillaboom: Pretty sure the three galar starters are all equally hated
    Meowscarada: Most popular, only because the fandom are all horny bastards

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pretty sure the three galar starters are all equally hated
      Not really?

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chespin is the worst starter of them all.

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    (OP)
    Venusaur: Popular.
    Meganium: Least popular. Worst starter of all, not just grass.
    Sceptile: Probably a three way tie, all Hoenn starters are well liked.
    Torterra: Probably a three way tie, all Sinnoh starters are well liked.
    Serperior: The supreme grass starter.
    Chesnaught: Chespin looks cool, the bigger forms look lame, especially the middle one.
    Decidueye: Everyone's choice Alola starter.
    Rillaboom: Pretty sure the three Galar starters are all equally hated.
    Meowscarada: Most popular, only because the duck is shit and the crocodile isn't cuddly. I still like the crocodile the best, frick you.

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Venusaur: 10/10
    >Meganium: 4/10
    >Sceptile 8/10
    >Torterra: 7/10
    >Serperior: 3/10
    >Chesnaught: 3/10
    >Decidueye: 8/10
    >Rillaboom: 2/10
    >Meowscarada: 5/10

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    U fricking wot mate?

    Apart from standouts like Decidueye and Meowscarada, Grass has always been consistently the least popular or middling from day 1

    >Vensaur
    Mogged by the other 2

    >Meganium
    I don't even need to explain this one

    >Sceptile
    The only one where you can say all 3 Starters are based

    >Torterra
    Mogged by cute penguin and Sun Wukong

    >Serperior
    Better than the pig I guess

    >Chesnaught
    KEK

    >Decidueye
    First time where the Grass Starter is genuinely the most popular

    >Rillaboom
    Least popular of its trio. Made more embarrassing given it's "competition"

    >Meowscarada
    Most Popular of its trio. Tho that is admittedly not a very high bar considering it's "competition"

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Venusaur mogged by Blastoise
      >All gen 3 starters look good
      >Torterra worse than Infergaype

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meganium is the worst starter of all time for being extremely forgettable and bland

  23. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Water is the worst
    It got the turtle Digimon and gay gator

  24. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    .

  25. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    > rillaboom is a monkey, monkey = Black person, I hate it hurdur
    /vp/ tryhardness is always so stale

  26. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like Chesnaught

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Venusaur
      cool toad/dinosaur for boys
      >Meganium
      cool dinosaur for girls
      >Sceptile
      cool dinosaur
      >Torterra
      cool dinosaur turtle
      >Serperior
      beautiful royal snake
      >Chesnaught
      good knight bromon
      >Decideueye
      flawed design but still cool. the Hisuan is even better.
      >Rillaboom
      cool gorrilla
      >Meowscarada
      Another garbage Lucario clone like Braixen and Cinderace

      Based, Chesnaught is too hated. If its limbs weren't so long and stiff looking it'd be better but fundamentally it's not a bad design

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It would become more liked if it's shiny palette was the default

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think it needs the shield on its default palette too tbh

  27. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sceptile was always popular and Venusaur and Torterra became popular once everyone outgrew their "hating on quadrupeds for no reason" phase and realized they were awesome

  28. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Venusaur
    cool toad/dinosaur for boys
    >Meganium
    cool dinosaur for girls
    >Sceptile
    cool dinosaur
    >Torterra
    cool dinosaur turtle
    >Serperior
    beautiful royal snake
    >Chesnaught
    good knight bromon
    >Decideueye
    flawed design but still cool. the Hisuan is even better.
    >Rillaboom
    cool gorrilla
    >Meowscarada
    Another garbage Lucario clone like Braixen and Cinderace

  29. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How did the grass starters go from the unpopular choice to the best overall designs?
    They started pandering to furgays in Gen 9. Everything before then was mid at best with notable lows being 2, 4 and 8.

  30. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Venusaur
    Cool, but I like Ivysaur more.
    >Meganium
    Fun. I could see myself riding one around or having it help me do yard work.
    >Sceptile
    I prefer Grovyle. Sceptile is a downgrade.
    >Torterra
    Really cool. My only complaint is that Turtwig and Grotle are so mid, but at least the wait is worth it.
    >Serperior
    One of my favorite Pokemon. Really cool. Should've been grass/poison tho.
    >Chesnaught
    I actually like it, Chespin is really cute and Chesnaught would've been way more liked if they hadn't given it suck a shit battle pose.
    >Decidueye
    Not a fan of it. I like Dartix a lot more. Hate the Hisui one.
    >Rillaboom
    Garbage.
    >Meowscarada
    I thought I liked it, but I don't really like it too much. I like the crooked smile and mask but the creepy hands really ruin it.
    I hope the gen 10 grass starter is a reptile again. It's been a while.

  31. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sceptile = Torterra > Decidueye > Chesnaught = Rillaboom > Serperior > Venusaur > Meganium >>> Meowscarada

  32. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Torterra is a fat ugly bastard only liked by contrarians on the internet. Chesnaught is the worst gen6 starter by a large margin. Maganium, Rillaboom and Grovile are all pretty mid.
    Other than that, grass usually isn't an interesting choice, because it's not uncommon to find other grass types early on.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Torterra is a fat ugly bastard only liked by contrarians on the internet
      a giant turtle with a whole tree on its back is only liked by contrarians? How can you say this when actual ugly bastards like incineroar and rillaboom exist?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a fat ugly turtle with part of my grandma's lawn glued to its back, is only liked by contrarians?
        Yes.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your grandma's yard is full of jagged rocks?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe they should have made the gen4 starter literally just a tree, and nothing more. Since Torterra is so bad, that a tree is the highlight of its design? It'd be an improvement removing all the chaff attached to that tree.
            You only like that uggomon because it's unpopular. A textbook contrarian.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              I like it because it's a giant turtle with a tree on its back, and the Pokedex entry stating a herd of them look like a moving forest is cool. I don't base any of my identity on what Pokemon I do or don't like. Why are you so mad?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Incineroar and Rillaboom aren't ugly. If you said Skeledirge or whatever the frick it's name is then I'd agree.

  33. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 8 was the first gen I went with grass cause I thought rillaboom looked the coolest out of the 3. I’d like him more and he’d be a mainstay on my team if he didn’t have the drumsticks. The drum could stay. Personally, I’d have preferred it be a bamboo bo staff or something

  34. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Rillaboom looks bad
    I want to frick Rillaboom, your argument is invalid.

  35. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venusaur: 7/10
    Meganium: 9/10
    Sceptile 5/10
    Torterra: 7/10
    Serperior: 5/10
    Chesnaught: 5/10
    Decidueye: 5/10
    Rillaboom: 5/10
    Meowscarada: 8/10

  36. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Subhumans here unironically think Meowscarada is a good design

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Subhumans here unironically think rillaboom is a good design

      I think like this.

  37. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Subhumans here unironically think rillaboom is a good design

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