How do I get gud at fighting games? I was recently playing KOF 2000 and I realized I suck.

How do I get gud at fighting games? I was recently playing KOF 2000 and I realized I suck. I routinely find myself button mashing and just adding credits whenever I lose, so I only beat the arcade through sheer attrition. How can I get gud at fighting games? Especially arcade one's without a training mode.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Learn some combos and build off that. Not a KOF player but learning some knock up to air combos really helped my game in MVC2.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's advice for a game like MvC2 or anime fighters, where the entire game revolves around doing flashy combos. For most SNK fighters, your normals matter WAY more (and very simple combos, like which punches let you make a free second punch afterward).

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Play them repeatedly.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I promise Ganker is the last place you want to get real fighting game advice. Look up youtube tutorials on the fundamentals (ie: if you don't know what neutral or frame data are, start there), and see if theres a dustloop page or something similar for the game you wanna learn.
    Beyond that, people here will largely give you "I was the best on my street" level advice that will get you raped if you play on Fightcade or something.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you call this stance?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The wobbly hangers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Jesus, Mai" Pose

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thats the stance I use when I wipe my ass

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically play against real people. You will never git gud fighting the computer. You will only learn how to habitually exploit the AI at best. Play against real people and learn how to take loss after loss without raging, and preferably find someone who's willing to help point out your flaws and give you constructive criticism on top of the beatings.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pick a character you like and learn it. Start by using training mode and arcade mode to get familiar with them. Nowadays basically any /vr/ FG has a training mode hack for you to practice. Look a guide on what are your characters best normals and use those in neutral. Know which of your moves are safe and which are not (look up the frame data). Combos are a bit of a noob trap, and it's more important that you learn neutral first. At first you can just punish with whatever, once you're more comfortable look up some ez combos and practice those.
      Learn not to rage, losing is part of learning, and remember to be patient. If you get a life lead then wait for the opponent to make a mistake and punish them even more. Run the clock if you have to, don't be afraid to play lame.
      If your goal is only to beat arcade mode then most of the above applies but there are of course AI patterns to exploit.

      You can't get good at fighting games fighting the computer. You need to play online. It'll be hard with KOF because the only people left playing them are all good already, and the ones that will play long sets with you will definitely switch characters a lot just to frick around with you, but if you can enjoy the process of learning through losing, you'll start to get better.

      Playing arcade is good for making sure that you're capable of doing your combos and things automatically in a realish situation, but you won't really learn a lot doing it.

      Appreciate the feedback anons, I think my biggest issue, is learning how to take a loss cause I'm not use to actual competitive gaming

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly the best way to think of it is to realize that most of the people you're playing with aren't going to be taking the game that seriously unless you're in a tournament or something. Don't even worry about winning, just worry about improving. Set yourself little challenges against players, like "The next time he does THAT, I'll be sure to block it" rather than just constantly thinking about winning.

        Just try to do shit you think is fun, if you see someone do something cool, ask them about it and try to do it yourself. People who think of fighting games as a grind and talk about grinding out matches and stuff are the ones who burn out. Just have fun and keep your eyes open, you'll pick stuff up as long as you're playing against people.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Forgot to add also, try to avoid locking yourself in a frustration spiral. If some guy's beating you and just starts acting like an butthole and is actively trying to make you mad, realize you can just walk away. Don't start thinking stuff like "FRICK this guy I'm gonna beat him!" If you keep playing because you're mad, you're not gonna learn anything and you're just gonna get mad.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pick a character you like and learn it. Start by using training mode and arcade mode to get familiar with them. Nowadays basically any /vr/ FG has a training mode hack for you to practice. Look a guide on what are your characters best normals and use those in neutral. Know which of your moves are safe and which are not (look up the frame data). Combos are a bit of a noob trap, and it's more important that you learn neutral first. At first you can just punish with whatever, once you're more comfortable look up some ez combos and practice those.
    Learn not to rage, losing is part of learning, and remember to be patient. If you get a life lead then wait for the opponent to make a mistake and punish them even more. Run the clock if you have to, don't be afraid to play lame.
    If your goal is only to beat arcade mode then most of the above applies but there are of course AI patterns to exploit.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have some patience and keep playing. I'm not good at fighting games either and generally not interested in them, but i'll play and learn if one actually interests me. So far the only ones in my life have been Mortal Kombat 2, Killer Instinct, Soul Calibur 1 & 2 and the Tekken series. Could never get into Street Fighter and it's SNK clones.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like everybody gets their start just playing arcade ladder. I mean, if you enjoy playing the game that way, why not? It's still playing. You'll hear talk of "bad habits" and while that can be true, it's still a valid starting point for learning what all your moves are and gaining a general idea of how to apply them. But that's all it is--a starting point. To really get BETTER, you'll have to play against real people like other anons have said.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keep changing your attack style. You want your enemy guessing. Also be fast. Finally, taunt. Taunting makes them even more of a nervous wreck, giving you the edge you need to humiliate your opponent who hopefully destroys their console/PC out of infantile rage.
    It's good times.
    -t. SFII Switch player

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't get good at fighting games fighting the computer. You need to play online. It'll be hard with KOF because the only people left playing them are all good already, and the ones that will play long sets with you will definitely switch characters a lot just to frick around with you, but if you can enjoy the process of learning through losing, you'll start to get better.

    Playing arcade is good for making sure that you're capable of doing your combos and things automatically in a realish situation, but you won't really learn a lot doing it.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your first priority is learning proper execution. Doing each command special or super on each side of the screen 50 or 100 times without dropping. You want to do this early on, because if your inputs are sloppy you will retain poor muscle memory and habits that you will have to unlearn. You should also learn what a hit confirm is and how to do it.
    https://www.dustloop.com/w/Hit_Confirm
    Any game training mode that has random guard will allow you to practice. There should also be .lua scripts for mame and final burn alpha/neo that allow for training mode settings on emulators for certain games.
    Second is stringing together some combos. The wiki page for whatever game you're playing will have bnbs (bread and butters) basic combos that you should learn.
    Third should be learning what neutral/footsies means.
    https://sonichurricane.com/?page_id=1702
    You don't need to read and memorize this whole thing, but it goes in depth into the key concepts of footsies for Capcom style games. King of Fighters is a bit different because it features running, hops and rolling, but once you get an idea of how neutral works the core concepts translate across all of 2d fighting games.
    There are also offensive and defensive concepts like zoning, tick throws, mixups, etc. that you will learn as you go. This is what fighting games are all about, but if you don't have execution you will have a hard time clearing the barrier of entry. Skullgirls's tutorial did a good job of explaining these things. Pirate it if you don't want to give money to Lab Zero or find a used copy.
    You should also ask questions to whoever is knowledgeable. Most fighting game players want to help other players get better and old games tend to attract a lot of autists/trannies who spend a decent amount of time discovering tech.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly dude, if you're playing the CPU and enjoying it and just wondering how to play with intentionality as opposed to mashing, just start defaulting to holding down-back, and start looking for ways to counter as opposed to always going in. Getting "good" at fighting games is a whole ass rabbit hole with a lot to it, but if you're just trying to clear the CPU without getting mad? Just start blocking dude.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Block more and find a button that hits high to stop opponents from jumping at you.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you have to learn frame data, something which is neither documented or explained by the developers or implemented intuitively as part of the visual design of the game.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    i am real SEA curry. trustme.

    dunno. my pp is too hard to play those games.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fighting games are quite complex and trying to take it it all at once can be overwhelming.
    Rather than trying to learn everything at once, I think it's better to just try to master each game one step at a time.

    My system for learning a new fighting game or character is to find one move I really like, and exclusively use that single move over and over again.
    I master everything about the move. I practice it to the point where its range, speed, and power is fully ingrained into my muscle memory. I learn all of its strengths and weaknesses until I can instantaneously recognize situations where it is my best option and use it on pure reaction.
    Then I pick another move I like and do it again. I repeat this process over and over, but now learning how to use all of the moves I have mastered together.

    I'm not sure if this is a good method for everyone, but it's worked quite well for me, so it might be something to try.

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