Convincing the general of an army that his devotion to Caesar is blinding him of a glaring flaw of his expansion plan (spreading the Legion thin) that will no doubt cause their downfall in the end isn't convincing enough?
yes the highest ranking generals of the faction, one of which is a scholar as well as a strategist, never sat down for one second to think "if I move my army from east to west the east becomes vulnerable" great writing
dilate
Cop out? It's very clearly stated on his dialogue if you actually bothered to read it
Especially if Caesar dies
2 years ago
Anonymous
He only agrees because he knows the Courier is right, but his devotion and loyalty for Caesar is clouding his judgement.
As I clearly said on my post
yup, one of the things he outright admits is that during the Denver campaign the Legion almost starved and got lucky the city broke before they did
the reason you need 100 speech or 100 barter is not because you're lying to him, it's because you're working through massive layers of delusion and loyalty to get him to realize a truth he already knows
2 years ago
Anonymous
Have you not played the game? Do you not know how strong the motivation/threat of dis/obeying Caesar is to the Legion troops? Literally, LITERALLY his soldiers are used as meatshields and fodder in wartime combat. Those men throw themselves into death, what makes you think the highest ranking general isn't wholly devout to Caesar to the point of making humongous, foot-shooting sacrifices?
A lot of the plot of NV in general seems cool until you realise it's pretty surface level nonsense. It's intriguing enough to make fanboys out of the autists, but not enough for anyone who isn't a lobotomite
I'd say it's the other way around. Context is everything in this story, and whittling it down to the bare elements in a reductionist fashion fails to paint the proper picture and serves only as entry level of ridicule as a Family Guy cutaway.
You need 100 speech to convince him of this. In the same way someone with 100 science can hack through pre-war high security facilities.
It's not so much he didn't realize it, he says something like Caesar dedicated too many resources to this campaign, even now he draws too much of the blood from the east blah blah blah..
So it's more like he knew / suspected but was bound to invade anyway (honor or loyalty to Caesar maybe?) and you having 100 speech aka being the most convincing fricker on the planet that can talk down and sell any bullshit argument to anyone, anywhere, is able to fully convince him of this
That's my take at least
Convincing the general of an army that his devotion to Caesar is blinding him of a glaring flaw of his expansion plan (spreading the Legion thin) that will no doubt cause their downfall in the end isn't convincing enough?
You can convince Lanius to frick off with high enough speech or convince him there's not enough supplies with high enough barter or lie and say there's a trap up ahead. The best thing about New Vegas is that speech isn't the be all end all stat and other stats like science or medicine can help you win conversations too.
Sorry
aap jaanate hain ki rekha ka shaabdik arth hai ki rom kaise sahee hua? {-haipar inphleshan} das se oopar ke kisee vyakti ko yah kaise nahin mil sakata hai
That's character skill, and possibly the worst form of skill there is since you the player aren't the one getting better or having agency, just the game giving you free shit because you spend useless time getting an arbitrary number so you can put more arbitrary numbers that will give you for free those conversations. True skill is different, and probably won't be done since the tech isn't there, and most people wanting to talk philosophy with npcs don't realize that the vast majority of people are morons.
you got me there, but beig honest ive never seen a game there the speech skill didnt feel like bullshit. the idea of talking people down from war, murder and so on in half a minute just feels cheap and moronic.
damn did the 3spammerschizo really go out his way to make this? and theres not even a single genuine argument or fact to be read in there.
damn, you really got mindbroken by new vegas being the better game hard.
Are New Vegas vs Fallout 3 gays the most moronic people on Ganker? You're the only ones who haven fallen for that moronic ESL italiananon's bait when everybody else has ignored him for a decade
by who?
any moron who will leave the Dam will be ambushed by vulpex
they can't do nothing
Yeah just have your army of primitives with armed with spears and machetes, dressed in football gear and based out of a fort made of trash build a bridge across the Grand fricking Canyon and assault the far side with just so happens to be defended by at least several thousand troops armed with modern weapons. Easy peasy.
ROMANS BUILD BRIDGE, WALLS, FORTRESS ETC...
YOU WANT TO LARP AS A ROMAN?
START TO BUILD
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Rangers and Sharpshooters who won the actual battle
2 years ago
Anonymous
the rangers who escape and bait the legions into a trap?
they didn't win nothing
2 years ago
Anonymous
This kinda looks like winning to me
2 years ago
Anonymous
LEGION CONQUEST THE DAM, NCR ESCAPE AND LEGION FOLLOWED DAM INTO A TRAP
WHAT IF THE LEGION DECIDED TO NOT FOLLOWED THEM?
NCR LOST
i dont understand how anyone can like 3 more. its so much more linear, the setting is repetitive and boring, and the writing/story is a fricking joke. even the worst dlc of nv, lonesome road, is still better than 3.
BETTER MAP
BETTER CHARACTER
BETTER QUEST
THE PLOT IS A COMPELTE MASTERPICE WITHOUT A SINGLE COSPLAYER OR GHOUL IN SPACE
Reddit Hivemin must get the rope
2 years ago
Anonymous
What? the Legion was getting it's high command picked off by Rangers and i'm pretty sure the entire Dam hadn't fallen yet if the Legion didn't pursue the Rangers then they would have probably still lost due to their officers all getting killed
2 years ago
Anonymous
NCR general order full retreat for this trick
2 years ago
Anonymous
So? a few Rangers fell back and killed a massive portion of the Legion's army while the main NCR army still held
2 years ago
Anonymous
held what?
even if a compelte retreet do not include low tier farmers these farmers in no way can surviv againstt legions soldiers if all the best rangers escaped
2 years ago
Anonymous
What? the NCR would be mostly fighting disorganized recruits and some Veterans because the majority of the Legion's elite force would be pursuing the Rangers also the NCR's army isn't that shit and there would probably still be a few elite troops holding like the Heavy troopers
2 years ago
Anonymous
not the point tard
the point what if the legion didn't follow the escaping NCR army?
would jus took over the Dam
nothing more
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's a chance they couldn't because once again their army was getting it's officers killed and was starting to just become a disorganized mob if they didn't chase them then they would just keep getting shot at
2 years ago
Anonymous
the goal is took over the Dam and you still follow them for revange?
not the legion
die for the goal is the point
What hidden content ? Besides GNR's whole questline and Sydney's quest what is there in DC the old capital of the USA ?
Oh yes, just 2 things worth exploting, the capitol acting as a dungeon with a Boss, and the Underwold (one of the most dissapointing towns in the whole series).
So much to explore in DC lmao.
look the image
walking for DC an find this
an unmarket locations in an unmarket place of DC
SO KINO
All bethesda know about writing Fallout story is basically just >BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL IS LE GOOD >POWER ARMOUR IS LE COOL
SINCE FALLOUT 1
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah and it's a lot harder to take the Dam when your best men are getting killed by the Rangers
2 years ago
Anonymous
all NCR best man escaped where is the problem?
2 years ago
Anonymous
They fell back because the Legion sent their best men to kill them if they didn't the Rangers would stay and continue killing their officers
2 years ago
Anonymous
Looks like a wild wasteland encounter or the same room you find in Li's escape to the Citadel. Next you will show me the frick you door as something worth to see kek ?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Build a bridge out of fricking what? Corrugated iron? Under machine gun fire? Across the GRAND CANYON? Seriously?
2 years ago
Anonymous
OF EVERYTHING
2077 materials of megalopolis are not bricks tard
Fallout 3 is obviously a flawed game and pales in comparison to the other Fallout games and even Fallout 4 in some aspects, but I still find it fun, though it's partially because it was my introduction to the series. The Capital Wasteland really does feel desolate and just walking around in the literal wasteland and fending off raiders is enjoyable in of itself. Point Lookout and the Pitt were great experiences too, probably the highlight for the whole game for me, really. The stupidly high resistance of the tribals and the swampfolk is still stupidly high though.
complete flawless masterpice
if you hate fallout 3 you just hate exploration and gaming
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if you hate fallout 3 you just hate exploration and gaming
No, I hate enemy level scaling and percentage speech checks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>enemy scaling
you hate gaming since fallout 3 block you from oneshotting everyone
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't even try to defend the percentage speech checks
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
a real RPG
YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO FAIL
This is moronic. Far easier to just do what the Legion is doing in New Vegas, massing cannon fodder to storm the dam while weakening and harassing the NCR from the inside via terrorism, raids out of Cottonwood and support to their enemies like the Fiends
this is not moron
the legion build an entire camp for all their soldiers
helf of that woods will build any bridge or ship you want
They fell back because the Legion sent their best men to kill them if they didn't the Rangers would stay and continue killing their officers
THE GOAL WAS TOOK OVER THE DAM NOT KILL PEOPLE
>t. hasn't played FO3 in a decade
Put more effort into your shitposting dumbfrick idiot. Commando+Rifleman builds oneshot the shit out of everything, as do crit shotguns.
>t. hasn't played FO3 in a decade
Put more effort into your shitposting dumbfrick idiot. Commando+Rifleman builds oneshot the shit out of everything, as do crit shotguns.
Enemy scaling tard
in new vegas you can reach level 20 by just speaing making the rest of the game just 1 shotting
2 years ago
Anonymous
And they can't take the Dam if their entire army breaks apart because the NCR sniped all of their leaders
2 years ago
Anonymous
The entire legion army was full , yeap veterans many veterans get killed but the point of having an horder of primitvism is haing infite man power.
once took over th Dam doesn0t matter how many vetena died NCR has no more position , water, power, to do anything
if it was a real rpg you wouldn't need enemy scaling to make the game harder.
you would do what NV does and just have tough enemies be in areas they should be tough.
lol
TO MAKE THE GAME FREE TO BE EXPLORED
FO3 has enemy scaling too dumbfrick moron. It's why it's a rule of thumb not to EVER enable broken steel in your main save until you're at the very last stage of the MQ because of feral ghoul reavers that tank mini nukes due to fricked up lvl scaling
EXPLORATION KINO
NOT RAILROAD
2 years ago
Anonymous
>to explore
that just sounds like a sandbox, not an rpg.
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hate exploration
truly VN reader
Damn this is kind of indisputable. I like both (prefer NV) but this pretty much nails it.
LMAO TOTALLY moronATION
2 years ago
Anonymous
Touch grass Black person
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can barely understand what you'e saying but the Legion army was mainly recruits that were used to take the majority of damage in the assault if enough of the Legion's Officers and Veterans die than the recruits will break resulting in the Veterans being vulnerable and having to retreat
2 years ago
Anonymous
if it was a real rpg you wouldn't need enemy scaling to make the game harder.
you would do what NV does and just have tough enemies be in areas they should be tough.
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I'm guessing you have literally no idea of the scale of the Grand Canyon. Its big. Hilltops aren't that hard to fortify, people have been doing it since the neolithic era. Even the irl Romans though probably couldn't have built a bridge across the Grand Canyon, sans machine gun fire.
2 years ago
Anonymous
ARE YOU JOKING RIGHT?
Romans created a bridge on the Rhine 100 times bigger than this baby river
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Rhine wasn't a big ass canyon defended by a modern army. And Caesar's Legion are not the Romans. They're a collection of primitive tribals crudely beaten into a fighting force. The heights of their engineering prowess are building a hillfort and some barges out of corrugated iron sheets. That's it. They've almost nothing in the way of solid building materials, what with being based out of a fricking desert.
2 years ago
Anonymous
see that fricking pic moron?
even a 5000yo civilization can create a bridge on that fricking river >massive advancd technolgoy
FARMERS WITH 1800 CANNON AND BROKEN RIFLE WITH NO SUPPLIES
Really impossible enemy right?
every single moron can win a siege gainst these idiots
Personally, I like using Hitman's season mods but I like to disable his laser weapon animations and replace them with rockbiter's animations.
Also pick up rockbiter's clean animations, you can use them both and clean animations largely just affects weapons added by mods.
[...]
I like exploring nv.
I do not like exploring in fallout 3.
too easy, not enough reason to explore.
just wacky teddy bears and plungers on mannequins everywhere.
lol
correction you love following a quest mark
I can barely understand what you'e saying but the Legion army was mainly recruits that were used to take the majority of damage in the assault if enough of the Legion's Officers and Veterans die than the recruits will break resulting in the Veterans being vulnerable and having to retreat
veterans died but the Dam was took over and the NCR escaped.
if they stopped battle won
>YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO FAIL
That's not a good thing. You can have maximum speech in Fallout 3 and still fail speech checks. Or you can have low speech and just reload your save until the game randomly decides to let you win.
IS AN RPG
DICE ROLL TARD
Touch grass Black person
mad redditor
2 years ago
Anonymous
If the Veterans die than the shitty recruits will either break or just fail to punch through the NCR line
2 years ago
Anonymous
shitty recruits + the veterans who survived agains some moron who forgot to escape with 0 mercenary to support them since all escaped
how can you lost tard?
Yeah those classic weapon animations he made are great.
I don't really like using Webb's huge pack on its own so I installed just the weapons from that pack I liked individually, grabbed hitman's animations he made for them and just tweaked the .json file to affect those versions of the weapons.
It's crazy how much more enjoyable that wattz pistol from 2008 is when it has actually good animations.
[...]
I have quest markers disabled in the tweaks mod.
like the classic fallouts.
like a real rpg.
Elijah is a real kino character and is right about quest markers being shit.
lol
yeap bro we trust you
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah they have a bridgehead established at Cottonwood Cove. The thing is, if they tried to send their main force across there, the NCR would spot the large troop movement instantly and they'd be stuck between three or four NCR forces, the ones at the dam and Boulder City, the ones at Helios One, reinforced by Camp McCarran, and Mojave Outpost which can be readily reinforced from California proper. Their army would be surrounded and destroyed.
However, if they successfully storm the far side of the dam, they've a straight push toward the city of New Vegas. There's no need to expose themselves to reinforcements from California via the Mojave Outpost.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NO Hoover Dam?
no water, no energy, supply base for Legion raids
etc...
loosing Hoover Dam mean lost all the war, local population will kill every single NCR moron for a glass of water
2 years ago
Anonymous
>YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO FAIL
That's not a good thing. You can have maximum speech in Fallout 3 and still fail speech checks. Or you can have low speech and just reload your save until the game randomly decides to let you win.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you have 1 charisma you should fail speech checks. That's how RPGs work. If you have average charisma of 5 and 100 speech you get a 100% chance on almost every speech check and with charisma of 10 you get 100% on the hardest speech checks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>t. hasn't played FO3 in a decade
Put more effort into your shitposting dumbfrick idiot. Commando+Rifleman builds oneshot the shit out of everything, as do crit shotguns.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is moronic. Far easier to just do what the Legion is doing in New Vegas, massing cannon fodder to storm the dam while weakening and harassing the NCR from the inside via terrorism, raids out of Cottonwood and support to their enemies like the Fiends
Yeah just have your army of primitives with armed with spears and machetes, dressed in football gear and based out of a fort made of trash build a bridge across the Grand fricking Canyon and assault the far side with just so happens to be defended by at least several thousand troops armed with modern weapons. Easy peasy.
I honestly don't mind the east coast brotherhood of steel being different from the west coast chapters, and there is background lore for them being the way they are to justify their portrayal
Role-playing skill based mechanics is based.
Seethe.
i dont understand how anyone can like 3 more. its so much more linear, the setting is repetitive and boring, and the writing/story is a fricking joke. even the worst dlc of nv, lonesome road, is still better than 3.
3 is the better actual game if you ignore that it has: >worse perks >no traits >less skill checks >less importance of special >less items >less weapons >less unique weapons >no alternate ammo >less crafting >less quests >less quest choices >less locations >less NPCs >more invincible NPCs >less factions >less options >worse combat >worse companions >less chances for roleplaying >less lore >less interesting setting
Checkmate.
How is the gender reassignment going? Have you guys had your bottom surgery yet?
Here's the hardest pill to swallow: without Bethesda you would've never heard of fallout, never would have bothered playing it and never would have gotten New Vegas which is probably the only one you've actually played to completion as you people usually pretend to like 1 and 2.
Even then, fans of 1 and 2 are 99% modern fans who discovered the IP after Bethesda marketing put it in the spotlight and not boomer day 1 fans from the CRPG heyday where 5 people bought the games.
>Here's the hardest pill to swallow: without Bethesda you would've never heard of fallout, never would have bothered playing it and never would have gotten New Vegas which is probably the only one you've actually played to completion as you people usually pretend to like 1 and 2
This would make a zoomers head explode, but of course they're too stupid to even process this information or consider what it means for even a single second v
>muh Bitter Springs
The Great Khans have been a shitty raider faction that has harassed the NCR since it was made. They do nothing but kill and hurt innocent people and make and sell drugs. Even in the "good" Great Khan ending in which the Followers of the Apocalypse help them get better, they don't REALLY get better. Like what did they expect? That the NCR wouldn't attack them the moment they get a chance or an opportunity to wipe them out? The only thing the NCR did wrong was fail to kill all of them.
Nope
if you kill the great khans because for you are Evil then you need to kill everyone in new vegas too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
moronic logic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NCR volontary attack not raiders of the great khans to cover their incompetence caravan defense.
objective evil
2 years ago
Anonymous
>not raiders of the great khans
Just because they're women and children and old people doesn't mean they're not part of the raider gang, stupid. Those kids would grow up to be active raiders themselves. And those old people were probably raiding when they were younger too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
better shoot them while they flee in that case. they MIGHT have done a raid or two after all.
homie the khans are methheads living strung out on couches outside of dilapidated mobile homes
literally one of the first lines in the game is Benny berating the Khans with a stereotype of inhumane cruelty
Seems to work, the Khans have been around longer than the NCR. they were the only named and threatening raider group from Fallout 1.
I dunno man yeah they're chemheads but something about them seems to work.
>thinking there is a black and white good and bad faction in NV
gwa ha ha ha >"oh, I did bad shit but it was for a good purpose"
damn dude, so the Master was the true good ending of F1 after all?
i dont understand how anyone can like 3 more. its so much more linear, the setting is repetitive and boring, and the writing/story is a fricking joke. even the worst dlc of nv, lonesome road, is still better than 3.
Fallout 1 was like that >wide open barren overworld >few interesting places >skill checks are few and far inbetween >waterchip timer semi-forces you into the story >only decades later did they "remove" the second timer
only with surface level thoughts >bethesda buys fallout >guy from the memes tell the new devs/team to learn fallout and shit >they watch a youtube on what it is >make fallout 3 based on what they got from fallout 1
it makes sense if you dig a little deeper with thinking. sorry anon
that was never the point.
im saying fallout 3 was barren and huge map because thats how fallout 1 was
>nutrannies are mentally ill
Shocking.
>modders throwing tantrums on forums makes all new vegas players trannies
ill never understand this train of thought
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NOOO STOP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES
Curious.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>download this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/23556 >have fun in 3 again
maybe get another hobby other than monitoring trannies?
you can be one of us just stop bringing your gaybag with you wherever you go proping it up as your whole personality
2 years ago
Anonymous
fallout 3 works with no mods
new vegas can0t even run without 10k of them
2 years ago
Anonymous
>fallout 3 works with no mods
the game literally doesn't launch on windows 10 PCs without modifications anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
buy the steam versions on sale? even fo1/2/t works on win11
>maybe get another hobby other than monitoring trannies? >you can be one of us
Already trying to fricking groom people huh homosexual? You'll burn in Satan's inferno you gay rapist.
is it still grooming when trying to ungay you?
Just weird coincidences.
why do you have so many of these on hand ready to go? this is what i mean by gaybag
2 years ago
Anonymous
almost every "new" feature in NV are just integrated popular mods for Fallout 3, like ammo crafting and weapon mods
2 years ago
Anonymous
that isn't what made NV better than FO3 or FO4, though
2 years ago
Anonymous
3 is the better actual game if you ignore that it has: >worse perks >no traits >less skill checks >less importance of special >less items >less weapons >less unique weapons >no alternate ammo >less crafting >less quests >less quest choices >less locations >less NPCs >more invincible NPCs >less factions >less options >worse combat >worse companions >less chances for roleplaying >less lore >less interesting setting
Checkmate.
if NV is such a good game then why aren't you playing it instead of coping about how this pale imitation of Fallout 3 with more expensive writers is such a superior game
2 years ago
Anonymous
if FO3 is a better game why aren't you playing it instead of crying about NV on a mongolian basket weaving forum?
2 years ago
Anonymous
because it doesn't work on Linux
2 years ago
Anonymous
By your logic, posting on 4chin is strictly prohibited, dummy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>STOP SAYING MEAN THINGS ABOUT FALLOUT 3!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes. Stop.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am playing it right now though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I feel bad for Veronica because I genozide the Irongays in most runs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If she didn't want me to genocide her family she should have let me frick her
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if NV is such a good game then why aren't you playing it instead of coping about how this pale imitation of Fallout 3 with more expensive writers is such a superior game
Then why must 3 gays cry how much better 3 is with troony posting?
Do you think people are coping from the outstanding FO3 perks like +5 to a skill?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is this an actual argument that 3gays like to make or something? I've noticed my friend who prefers 3 b***hing about NVgays using a lot of mods and going "If NV is so good why are they using 400 mods?????" from time to time, but I find it hard to believe that they actually think that >3 is a perfect game that doesn't need mods and cannot be improved by them >Long time fans of NV using mods in a game with a lot of mods available is a bad thing and invalidates their opinions on the games
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're not playing New Vegas hahaha
You're playing a game with 400 mods, 200 of which are for your specific fetishes. Just look at yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But I like playing games in 144fps, with realistic recoil, ragdolls, blood and gun hit effects, actual working viewmodels etc.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well that sounds fair actually.
I think the cutoff should be if you've ever found yourself sucking penis in New Vegas, you shouldn't be defending the game. That's just how I feel though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
3gays also use mods. They just don't want to admit it because they want to sound superior over NVgays.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no one use mod in fallout 3
after the game yes but not to play fallout3
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Source: dude trust me
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The 3652000 DLs is just a photoshop
2 years ago
Anonymous
>fallout 3 works with no mods
homie f3 crashes on consoles, let alone steam release
2 years ago
Anonymous
>maybe get another hobby other than monitoring trannies? >you can be one of us
Already trying to fricking groom people huh homosexual? You'll burn in Satan's inferno you gay rapist.
>its so much more linear, the setting is repetitive
The actual Fallout 3 world allows for way more freedom in exploration, which is far more important than freedom in faction reputation management, especially in a game like New Vegas where choices don't matter at all.
The setting being more repetitive is a dogshit lie. It's orders of magnitude more detailed than the NV desert to the point even Obsidian would call you a wiener riding fricking lying b***h. They had way less time and a much smaller team to decorate an entire world that has twice as many quests than Fallout 3.
no choice of new vegas matter since there is only 1 route
you choice a pro legion mission?
you fail 99% of the quest and can0t enter anymore in 99% of settlements
>not raiders of the great khans
Just because they're women and children and old people doesn't mean they're not part of the raider gang, stupid. Those kids would grow up to be active raiders themselves. And those old people were probably raiding when they were younger too.
women and children do not steal because if they do this mena NCR soldiers are the biggest joke ever and this was just a coping punitive campaine to hide their incompetence
I prefer the exploration, FO3 you could wonder about and find interesting stuff, FONV essentially makes you take a long linear semi-circle to find a place that was down the road (felt like a waste of time to be honest, both myself and the character I roleplayed).
I never understood the appeal of Fallout 3 exploring, you only explore : >rumbled buildings >metros >super markets >destroyed vaults
In most of these locations you will never found a frendly NPC or an unmarked quest, its only an evironnement to explore without a story to tell.
Wheras, New Vegas as way more stuff to explore, character to see and notes to read. All related to quests and with some loots, so no exploration is wasted in the end. Every location has a story to tell or a reason to exist, when in Fallout 3, it looks like they made locations at random and put the good unique ones at the extremity of the map.
I also dont understand people who complain that you can go to Vegas if you wish to. Vegas is filled with content and the detour you do to get to Vegas is only a fraction of what the game shows.
Its like nobody here actually played this game lmao.
in a single piece of DC there are more hidden content then in all new vegas
I love how artificial this whole NV hate shit on this site is and can tell how it's just 1 dedicated schizo. As soon as it stops spamming thread goes back to normal and people who like NV just come out of the woodwork and praise the game in good faith like it's always been kek
What hidden content ? Besides GNR's whole questline and Sydney's quest what is there in DC the old capital of the USA ?
Oh yes, just 2 things worth exploting, the capitol acting as a dungeon with a Boss, and the Underwold (one of the most dissapointing towns in the whole series).
So much to explore in DC lmao.
>Vegas is filled with content and the detour you do to get to Vegas is only a fraction of what the game shows.
Bold of you to think these clowns played the game long enough to know that you CAN infact not follow the story on repeat playthoughs and how easy it is to walk past the high level creatures blocking the path straight to vegas.
>, its only an evironnement to explore without a story to tell.
Every single piece of architecture in Fallout 3 has a story to tell, this is so clearly not the case in New Vegas that people who play NV first can't settle this due to extreme autism and needing notes and numbers and homosexual transvestitism to play their game
>Every location has a story to tell or a reason to exist
Wrong. It has hundreds of pointless empty shacks with ten rounds of pistol ammo, nothing about it could be less unique or more repetitive in design
Okay give me 3 memorable locations that arent towns, bonus pokts if you dont mention Gary Vault, the Vault where you get hallucination or Dunwinch Buildings. >Wrong. It has hundreds of pointless empty shacks with ten rounds of pistol ammo, nothing about it
You just describe what a shack is in the desert for travellers and bandits in the Mojave. A shack means there is life nearby and most of the tipe its a correct assumption qince you can fund traders, raiders or soldiers around these locations. This fact is the same for Fallout 3.
Again, most of the explorable buildings and locations in New Vegas are tied to quest and unmarked quest so yes there is more story and stuff to see in 3 than NV. Thats a fact.
I prefer the exploration, FO3 you could wonder about and find interesting stuff, FONV essentially makes you take a long linear semi-circle to find a place that was down the road (felt like a waste of time to be honest, both myself and the character I roleplayed).
>bear bad but then good >legion bad but then good >you didnt know what you delivered because thats how couriers/mail system works but you are responsible for blowing this place up >now you die >or not
lobos are np
scorps are annoying but thats why god almighty gave us pulse ammo for kinetic weapons. and are no problem with energy or melee. assuming melee has piercing strike
It's not, but having interesting buildings to explore that tell stories about what happened there is better.
Lonesome road takes away your opportunity to explore in service of a cinematic, linear finish for the game. But they needed to make the entire DLC runtime feels as good as the last 10 minutes to make it worth the lack of freedom instead of making you run in a tube with scenic surroundings you can't actually explore while throwing filler enemies at you
>takes away your opportunity to explore in a service of a cinematic linear finish for the game
which is exactly why it's a great thing it's a breath of fresh radioactive air after rolling around in dust for hours with fiends
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did you say this about Operation Anchorage too?
It was decent for like 30 minutes when you get to the ruined town part where it's still pretty linear but there's small tidbids sprinkled around the small area to explore.
But then the last 80% are just running through boring highways and canyons while enemies spawn infront of you
2 years ago
Anonymous
??? >Operation anchorage
I could never bother to play fallout 3 because how terrible it is
it got boring to me after 3 hours
I seriously don't understand the appeal of what motherfrickers like you and op get out of doing shit like this. >Oh man I boiled down a persons point and now it looks STUPID
No shit nerd you can do this with litterly fricking anything. You doing this doesn't prove anything as people already know how overpowered speech is in these fricking games.
Lonesome road is a garbage DLC gameplay wise. People remember the talks with Ulysses and the scenic shots of apocalyptic landscapes but these are 10% of the DLC. beside a few optional buildinds with a few rooms you can enter, the entire DLC is spent walking in a linear tunnel where you have to fight the same burned men and lizardpeople 30 times and doing a "puzzle" mechanic where you point a laser at an object in your way and hold left click for 3 seconds. There's barely any environmental storytelling anywhere either, if you turned all the textures blue it could pass for Operation Anchorage.
When a game is unpopular on Ganker for long enough, eventually people will larp as fans just to keep things fresh. You're starting to see it with Skyrim too.
>fallout 3 is so much more linear >in new vegas i can clip around black mountain to go around the deathclaws and cazadors so i can go to vegas before the the plot allows me to
??????????????????????
>>in new vegas i can clip around black mountain to go around the deathclaws and cazadors so i can go to vegas before the the plot allows me to
Yes its called freedom to do what you want
no scaling difficult
when you return back enjoy one shot everyone
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah? so? that's the point. it's a open world role playing game not a locked down linear game besides for one dlc
2 years ago
Anonymous
no gaming
you just hate gaming
Obsidian gays just want VNs
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
so go to play VN and don0t ruin RPG with your opinions
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can't ever become female my son
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's not how it works your fricking level 4
if you want to one-shot max lock pick and get the scout sniper near camp golf >You also don't have the caps or ammo supply to use it
it just feels so boring and lifeless. so many things about it are just not as good as NV. the voice acting is terrible, the writing is terrible, and the setting is just not as interesting. As well as the fact that the game is just so fricking linear.
The linearity is probably the biggest issue I have with it. It's just so fricking boring. There's no exploration, no side quests, nothing. Just a straight line from start to finish. NV had so much more to offer in that regard. The linearity holds it back in so many more ways than one. Allow me to elaborate,
The setting is incredibly boring and repetitive. There are only a handful of locations that you visit over the course of the game, and they all look and feel the same. There's no sense of exploration or discovery.
The writing and story are a complete joke. The main quest is incredibly simplistic and lackluster, and the side quests are even worse. There's no sense of urgency or stakes. It all feels incredibly safe and bland.
The voice acting is terrible. Every single character sounds like they're phoning it in. There's no emotion or passion in any of the performances.
Overall, Fallout 3 just feels like a cheap knock-off of NV. It's not nearly as good in any regard, and it's a complete waste of time.
If it just wasn't so linear, it could have been a much better game. The linear map as well was the linear gameplay strikes me as odd. I would have much rather had a more open world to explore with side quests and different things to do.
There's no doubt that Fallout 3 was heavily inspired by New Vegas. However, there are also a number of ways in which New Vegas ripped off Fallout 3.
For example, the way the game handles companions is very similar to Fallout 3. In both games, you can have up to two companions following you around, and they will help you in combat. However, in New Vegas, you can only have one human companion at a time, while in Fallout 3, you could have multiple human and non-human companions.
Another example is the way the two games handle questing. In Fallout 3, you would typically get a quest from someone, and then you would have to go out and find the person or thing you were looking for. In New Vegas, however, many quests are given to you by NPCs who simply tell you where to go and what to do. This can often lead to a lot of backtracking, as you have to go back to the quest giver to get your reward.
Overall, there are a number of ways in which New Vegas ripped off Fallout 3. However, it's still a great game in its own right, and it's worth playing if you're a fan of the Fallout series.
>It is possible that the developers of Fallout 3 were inspired by the desert setting of New Vegas when creating their own game. As the setting for Van Beuran was also inspired by New Vegas.
New Vegas was actually in development before Fallout 2 was released.
>As well as the fact that the game is just so fricking linear. >The linearity is probably the biggest issue I have with it. It's just so fricking boring. There's no exploration
Fallout 3 is objectively less linear and has more exploration with a larger variety of locations that are unique
>The setting is incredibly boring and repetitive. There are only a handful of locations that you visit over the course of the game, and they all look and feel the same. There's no sense of exploration or discovery.
You're just describing new vegas
>There's no sense of urgency or stakes. It all feels incredibly safe and bland.
Okay so the point of your post was to complain specifically about New Vegas but call it Fallout 3 in an attempt to troll, sorry I'm kinda slow
>the voice acting is terrible
literally LIAM NEESON + dog and Eden 1 of the best voice acting in videogame history >it just feels so boring and lifeless.
oh desert instead what is?
HELL ON EARTH
this is DC not your funny colorfull reddit travel >As well as the fact that the game is just so fricking linear.
EXPLORATION
the game want you to do wtf you want without railroads
how can be linear?
SIMPLE QUEST MARK
you can0t explora by your own so you need a gsp to railroad you >The setting is incredibly boring and repetitive
wasteland, DC ruins, metro
all different cities and different story
MEANWHILE ALL SAME DESERT NOT?
Story is a complete masterpice about morale not about politcial moronation
EDEN,AUTUMN, HJAMES ,SARAH
all unforgettable character
TELL ME A SINGLE GOOD NCR CHARATER
in short
YOU HATE EXPLORATION
YOU HATE RPGs
YOU WANT JUST A RAILROADED EASY TRAVEL NOT A REAL ADVENTURE
You miss so much of the art of complaining about New Vegas. A Fallout 3 fan would never defend the story. I'm so disappointed by your inability to flesh out this Indian character even after thousands of threads.
Didn't the computer president in Fallout 3 commit suicide because one of the optional choices was to tell him that he was an affront against god for being a computer? And that just did it for some reason. Killed himself AND blew up the Enclave.
Yes. Also the FEV serum is the only way to help the Enclave despite being unable to join them and being hostile on sight. Even if you do it they are still hostile in Broken Steel, so what the frick was the point of helping Eden?
in broken steel he is dead even if you don0t kill him.
Eden is his own version of the enclave and his ending block the DLC
>[Speech 9000] O my radiation-immune friend, can you please flip the switch off in the radiation chamber so no one has to needlessly die? >NO, IS YOUR DESTINY
Defend this
GAMEPLAY FORCED
in no way a companions can survive the final battle
Yeah it's hilarious. I usually play a silver tongued scientist for maximum dialogue options, so I had this really civil conversation with him where we chatted about how he's a computer and his reasoning, and then I abruptly told him to kill himself and he was just like "Can't argue with that!"
>tell General Olivegarden he needs me to run the Dam since I have 100 Science and its "very complex" >there is a character down in the Dam who tells you he has been working on and renovating it for like ten years >there are entire teams of people down there who can call my bluff immediately
>[Speech 9000] O my radiation-immune friend, can you please flip the switch off in the radiation chamber so no one has to needlessly die? >NO, IS YOUR DESTINY
Defend this
You are the biggest, most vile homosexual to ever live.
Sacrificing your life needlessly when you have the option to achieve the same result without having to do so is the most brain-dead moronic kind of thinking.
Sacrifice only hold weight when you have no other option but to scarifice.
Fricking moron dumb frick.
They literally forgot about the companions that are immune until the last second. It's not the devs trying to be deep, they literally had a tard moment and forgot lmao. I guess that's a defence?
most people recognize that having speech checks as an I win button is a copout. Fallout 1 is still the sterling example of defeating the final boss using speech.
I think you tried to say something along the likes of
I rather use my ass to shit than to stick wiener init
or something like that idk
I do have hand cancer.
Is Lanius forgetting what happened to the previous Legate when he failed to take the dam? He's getting executed as soon as he steps foot in Caesar's tent. I guess Obsidian forgot that too, Lanius should not give up that easily when his fricking life is on the line if he fails.
Honestly, they should've made it like FO1, where you need high speech AND some kind of physical evidence that the Legion are spread too thin. Maybe some supply logs you find in The Fort that show supplies slowly dwindling as the Legion's numbers grow, or testimony from Vulpes showing that even he thinks this kind of expansion isn't good for the Legion in the long-run. That'll also reward people who don't just ape out and kill him the moment they see him in Nipton.
That's just bad understanding of historiography, the Legion is expanding and acquiring more resources, they are the ascendant faction. NCR is the stagnant faction that is undergoing a catabolic process.
only morons ever said legion has deep shades of grey. >i offer safe roads, in exchange you become a literal slave with no rights and your women and children will be shipped off to fight pointless wars of expansion or be sex slaves for my officers
>>i offer safe roads, in exchange you become a literal slave with no rights
I'm pretty sure the Legion trader who talked about "safe roads" wasn't a slave >your women and children will be shipped off to fight pointless wars of expansion
They don't send women and children to fight wars. That's what the men are for. That's why they're "misogynistic", to prevent women from dying pointless deaths >or be sex slaves for my officers
And you get their women in exchange, if you prove your worth, so it all evens out.
The fact that people actually defend the NCR because "no slavery", even though it's the one faction that fails to run New Vegas even in THEIR OWN ENDING will never fail to astound me. Housegays I can understand, because he keeps people on a tight leash and doesn't spread his resources too thin. But NCRcucks are hit over the head in every single NCR quest about how the NCR is corrupt and how its current structure just doesn't work, and they just refuse to accept the message.
>Yes, I SHOULD be allowed to join a faction that is xenophobic to everything that isn't them even though they don't view me as a human, even vault dwellers and pure humans.
Enclavekeks are delusional
Because it would be funny to shit on ignorant players by having them cucked in the end.
A moron (or useful moron, from an in-universe standpoint) joins the Enclave because they think the faction looks cool, only for the Enclave to frick them over once the player's "usefulness" runs out.
They should have let you "join" them, only for you to be stabbed in the back in the end.
Then nobody would join them, moron. Why bother making a joinable faction that nobody will ever join because players don't want to get cucked?
Because it would be funny to shit on ignorant players by having them cucked in the end.
A moron (or useful moron, from an in-universe standpoint) joins the Enclave because they think the faction looks cool, only for the Enclave to frick them over once the player's "usefulness" runs out.
Isn't the whole point of the storyline that all but 1 of them have left the dogmas of the Enclave behind and all they want to do is One. Last. Ride?
Unless you side with the Legion instead of the NCR, in which case 2 out of the 5 leave and like 1.5 of them don't feel very good about it
do you nerds still do the main story quest? just finish the tutorial and go out and start killing > leveling > crafting > repeat like every bethesda game since the 90s
New Vegas' first quest is one of the best introductions in any RPG. Lots of optional stuff. Skill passes. All the NPCs are unique, and have things to say. You can choose who to side with, or how to engage. The Goodsprings area has lots of interesting loot, if you're willing to explore. Solid and great introduction to the game.
The first quest in Fallout 3 is about getting food from an old supermarket. There's no interesting characters, no skill checks, no interesting loot, no factions, and the conflict isn't urgent. Boring.
There's a companion you can get at Megaton but you need bad karma to recruit him. Iirc he's a former raider guy who's a complete butthole. The problem with companions in 3 is that they are one dimensional and have a one-note personality, and don't have any quests or interesting dialogue.
NV isn't a railroad? you can go straight north to NV, take the primm pass to get to novac without going all the way south or you can just go all the around the south. the only locations that are barred plot wise is the legion camp if memory serves, you can't take the barge until you get the invitation I think.
>and lose half the game
that's hardly half the game and you can always go back and do those quests. personally I always go north first, unlock the gun runners and freeside fast travel points then go back to questing in the southern part of the map so I have the best vendors available from the rip.
NV isn't a railroad? you can go straight north to NV, take the primm pass to get to novac without going all the way south or you can just go all the around the south. the only locations that are barred plot wise is the legion camp if memory serves, you can't take the barge until you get the invitation I think.
My favourite way to get to vegas early is to go through hidden valley and sneak past the first super mutant group at black mountain to get to the hillside path with the beartraps and falling boulders with the dead NCR soldier. It leads right to the ranger safehouse which has a clear shot at places like McCarren from there. The dead NCR soldier's clothes from the mountain can give you a disguise for the monorail, it's great.
what sprint mod is that? the one I use just holsters my weapon
It's part of the JAM mod. It adds a bunch of lightweight but really useful features like Fallout 4's quick loot menu too. I'm gonna guess that mod you use that puts away your weapon is Project Nevada. That mod is really old and was always buggy as hell and lead to crashes, it's heavily recomended by everyone to get replacements for it like JAM.
>FO3 has better exploration
New Vegas has more locations, more items, more weapons, more quests, more NPCs, more story and points of intrigue, etc. FO3 barely has any interesting content.
>New Vegas doesn't let you go where you want though
It does, you just didn't try.
NV I think does the "go where you want" thing better in that you can go where you want, but that doesn't mean the world will roll over for you. it's a dangerous place with dangerous creatures and the game reflects that, FO3 is a fallout themepark that hits all the notes without really understanding what they're making into the attractions.
I take a lot of drugs and shoot them to death. Having hundreds of stimpaks also helps, basically every build is immortal if you just play the economy correctly.
you serious? did you not complete the DLCs? did you waste your level ups on stupid perks? you should be an unstoppable rapetrain at this point in the game. it's been a while since I played, but I vividly recall blowing his head off and mopping up the grunts without a single hit to my HP.
I just stealth past them. I don't remember needing to kill 10 of them at the same time. I can 2v1 them just fine. Also I cannot join the Legion or something? Does the game in the end force you not?
Completing the dlcs makes it significantly easier. In one run I stuck him with a chainsaw and his body exploded.
One of my favorite memories of the game.
>Go to Canterbury Commons where Antman and Ultron are fighting each other >looks like a complete shithole just like everywhere else >Apparently it's the center of caravan trade in DC.
Shit world building.
YEAP BECAUSE WAS ATTACKED moron >HUB CENTER
BECAUSE WAS IN THE CORNER OF THE MAP TARD
>and lose half the game
that's hardly half the game and you can always go back and do those quests. personally I always go north first, unlock the gun runners and freeside fast travel points then go back to questing in the southern part of the map so I have the best vendors available from the rip.
>one shot everything is gaming
NO SCALING DIFFICULT
>weak things being weak is bad
it's called world building my guy, if you're running around in early zones with power armor and gauss rifles you should be tearing shit up because the enemies there aren't equipped to handle such a threat. you want a bandit with a pool cue to be a threat to a level capped Courier in the best armor in the game?
>download mod that puts all bobblehead and skillbooks outside of 111 cave area >download a mod that fixes level scaling/hp beyond level 20 >just go out and kill shit randomly
i had fun in 3
>we're stuck with bethesda fallout forever now it seems like.
What the goddamn frick do you mean? How in the FRICK are you blaming Bethesda for Obsidian making a Vegas Strip with seven buildings? You think any amount of budget shortage could result in a Vegas Strip so small and fricking massively disappointing? Go make a fricking map, it takes less than a week for one person to design something like that. Obsidian just didn't fricking know what they were doing, they were trying to shove to much dogshit filler quests into the fricking game to bother making anything that looked worth exploring.
NV has most locations and quests of any FO game, if I'm not mistaken.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, they didn't make a world. They made a desert and they put 1000 awful, valueless quests that are mostly speaking to Person A and then person B. No missions worth playing, no world worth exploring, linear two directional start, god what a trash heap
2 years ago
Anonymous
The new vegas quests are fun and they're interconnected with each other and lead you to new locations and you learn new things about the world and the Mojave and the people living there. Sorry your ass is so blasted but New Vegas will always be a beloved classic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The new vegas quests are fun
You can lie to me and you can lie to yourself, but we both know this is totally false deep down.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, exploring a vault full of plant people is fun.
Cope, seethe, etc
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look I don't know what your game is, pal, but there is no way you felt dopamine release while holding W through the desert for nine hours and I politely request you stop trying to gaslight me into thinking you had fun
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I had fun with this game. >NO STOP, YOU'RE TRYING TO GASLIGHT ME!!!
Get some sun, pal.
2 years ago
Anonymous
At first I was kidding but now I sense a nervous energy from you
You're just lying to fit in aren't you anon? It's okay, I did once too, over a decade ago. That was thirty years ago.
2 years ago
Anonymous
name a single quest in fallout 3 I can't take apart with logic with how badly it fricks up with lore or world building
just try me
2 years ago
Anonymous
name 1 that does frick up with the lore
2 years ago
Anonymous
the aliens which is just a random event gag in 1 (wanamingos aren't aliens) being hinted at starting the great war
FEV/radiation causing fern/fauna to die permanently
2 years ago
Anonymous
TENPENNY TOWER SINGLE HANDED BTFO EVERYTHING EVER WRITTEN BY OBDISIAN A REAL QUEST
WHAT GHOULS IN SPACE EAT?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>moron doenst understand even talking mutants are morons
2 years ago
Anonymous
I know you probably aren't here to discuss anything and just want to reeeeee at NV, but I always enjoy doing Come Fly With Me
Lots of stuff to kill, creepy pre-war facility to explore, an insane amount of shit to scavenge and sell, different routes you can take (kill the ghouls or help them with the nightkin, who you can also just kill or find the shipments, plan to blow the rocket up, different ways of obtaining the materials with toy rockets or heading to that radiated area with the geckos)
There's a few quests I hate though. Same with most games.
>obsidian didn't know what they were doing
well what the frick did you expect Black person? them to know the engine in and out despite never working with it? even the modders who know the engine better than bethesda themselves still have issues making all of vegas open
I am not blaming bethesda for the strip being small autismo, I'm saying we'll never see a follow up where it's fully realized BECAUSE we're stuck with bethesda fallout now. Did you just completely miss the "sequel" bit of that post?
What's the deal with the pajeet praising Fallout 3 anyway? I recall hearing about it being banned in India or some shit during it's release over it's depiction of brahmin.
I fricking hate how charisma does basically nothing in this game and has no impact on speech checks. Just make it lower the requerements for speech checks a little, it's not so complicated.
>5% dmg and dr per cha for comps
i have handfuls of games where i shoot for 7-10 cha for characters
only time where i feel that cha is useless is LR and OWB. even then, theres mods to bring your buddies
Among Fallout New Vegas fans there seems to be this misconception about his character. That he is some supposed all-knowing god's gift to humanity, who will steer civilization towards a better future. That is of course, a complete misunderstanding of his whole character profile.
Mr. House is a pre-war businessman with a resume full of deceit. His words alone deny his ambitions for anything beyond the Strip, which he wants to turn into a post-war Dubai. A sick, twisted joke of modern capitalism and mindless consumerism. It is purely coincidental that his saving of the strip from atomic bombs just happens to paint him as some kind of techno-jesus who saved the world from nuclear annihilation, when it is simply the first unavoidable step in his plan to becoming a merchant king. He is essentially a post-war Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos, someone who thinks they have a mind for politics just because they have considerate economic wealth.
He is completely full of himself and delusional about his abilities. He has to hire raider goons to do his bidding when his raison d'etre, the platinum chip, is on the line, which leads to him losing the chip due to him being a bad judge of character (Benny), and only managing to track it down because of pure coincidence when the courier, who should have been dead, actually wasn't, and goes to retrieve the chip for him. This is but a small, brief interaction but wholly exposes his character, and inability. He has no mind for politics due to his poor judge of character and judgement. He has no ability to look out for his own interests and needs to rely on 3rd party problem solvers who end up betraying him because of the aforementioned.
This then ends up becoming a salient point in exposing his folly as a man who so many look up to, but ending up being nothing more than a weak, desperate old man, grasping on to his long-gone days of glory and power.
I always wondered how he managed to build an empire when the singular resource he had available to him (old world money) was now completely defunct. is this ever addressed or is this just a case of "don't worry about it"
>no water in the desert
there is plenty of water, they're stationed at a dam my guy. A Mr.Handy could purify enough water for everyone easily. >no food
pic related
>no water
There's literally a lake filled with water nearby. It's right behind Hoover Dam.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>using lake for agriculture
why commies are so dumb?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You stupid or something? That's quite literally what a lot of lake water is used for, especially when it comes for people living in desert cities. Are you a moron?
2 years ago
Anonymous
sure tard
people use lake water of intensive agriculture and not the colorado river one right?
is incredible how eat obsidian tad can eat
2 years ago
Anonymous
>is incredible how eat obsidian tad can eat
You talk like a complete moron.
>I always wondered how he managed to build an empire when the singular resource he had available to him (old world money)
You forget the technology. Mr. House has 10x the technological prowess of any other faction in New Vegas.
Consider this: the NCR has trouble getting a single solar power station to run, the Legion doesn't even attempt to use technology. Meanwhile, Mr. House has an army of custom-programmed cyborgs with rocket launchers.
It's like fighting stone age gorillas with 22th century weapons.
Did you know that you can bargain with stuff other than money? Like, an army of murderbots under your absolute control, and the threat of violence they present, should your demands not be met?
Tell me this: how are there hundreds of obscenely rich people wasting their money in casinos, when everyone outside of the tiny New Vegas strip is barely capable of surviving on a subsistence level? There's not a single business or corporation that's still properly functioning, except drug and weapon dealers.
Where does the money that gets wasted in New Vegas come from?
Almost everyone in new vegas is a tourist besides town settlers
Okay, but does that mean there are wealthy and safe settlements in other parts of the USA? If yes, then why aren't the few wealthy people in the Mojave moving there?
I didn't play Fallouts other than New Vegas, if that's showing already.
>Okay, but does that mean there are wealthy and safe settlements in other parts of the USA
That is the NCR, basically. >If yes, then why aren't the few wealthy people in the Mojave moving there?
Issues with the law, can't take their land with them, better opportunities in the Mojave, don't want to pay taxes, pick your choice, honestly.
SKILLED + LOGANS LOOPHOLE IS THE FRICKING BEST SHIT EVER
I CUT OFF ONE TESTICLE BUT KEEPING THE OTHER OUT OF SOLIDARITY
I WANT A SLAVE WIFE BY THE LEGION NOHOMOBRO
I CAN FIX VERONICA
I KILL THE KHANS
I KILL EVERYONE IN DLC BECAUSE SAME EXP BUT FASTER
Lost what? Literally though. The respect and admiration of the most transsexual gaming community that ever existed? People here on Ganker laughing at it being Indian? That's your definition of winning? Does Obsidian even exist anymore?
>bethesda games are literally designed by a troony who is their lead writer
Well they must not be grooming as fast as they are over at Obsidian considering the fanbase, which is still one of the great joys of the internet, laughing at the New Vegas fanbase for it's baffling connection to the gay community
you do know there is practically no one left in obsidian that worked on new vegas now right? a good 50 out of the 70 people on the team moved on to other things and the majority of them were the lead devs/writers besides sawyer. I'd understand your reaction if people were talking about more recent Nu-obsidian garbage (Outer Worlds, Pillars of Eternity), but you're either baiting for (You)s or just genuinely moronic.
Just like Turtlerock and Back for Blood. This shit is very common in games, and if a studio you haven't heard of comes back ten or so years later, they aren't the same studio.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah, blatant false advertising by riding on someone else's name. many such cases that one aussiegay who bought the microprose name and made it start publishing strategy games again is pretty based however
the whole idea is that the NCR didn't have the engineering expertise to continue using those weapons. You need the infrastructure for manufacturing those components, or at the very least preserving them. The BoS is in a small enough scale that they don't experience the logistical demands that the NCR does, especially since the NCR is an expansionist organization while the BoS is reclusive and even at their isolationism they constantly need to send out missions to resupply their limited and otherwise finite resources
If the robots at REPCONN headquarters can maintain themselves in the middle of the desert for 200 years I would assume that the technology in fallout is resilient enough to not need constant maintenance.
to be fair the NCR presence in NV are mostly poorly supplied rookies, the best troops and best weapons are likely being used to guard the territory at the behest of the cow barons.
That's not how it works your fricking level 4
if you want to one-shot max lock pick and get the scout sniper near camp golf >You also don't have the caps or ammo supply to use it
For me it's Cass. She's cute, I like her different location and NPC comments, her companion dialogue is fun, massacring the Van Graffs is always good, and two people with Shotgun Surgeon are better than one.
cass's VA is a literal who with no other credits to her name but somehow got the perfect mix of playful sarcasm and care in every line and no one appreciates it because they only remember long dick Johnson or couldn't recruit her to start with >point gun at her >'don't MAKE me take that away from you~'
my HEART
How did you get troony from him liking the way Cass's voice actress sounds?
He sounds gayer than a French tuba player in Delaware
Your heart? You're fricking swooning? I don't think so pal I think you're a fricking legit gay and you need to keep an eye on that because you're prime to start slipping up with that pussified attitude
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol it's the anon who has tantrums when people use the word 'cute'
go dig a hole, hank hill
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't try to defend yourself, this is for your own health and benefit. I'm making myself out to be a bad guy to make sure that you never do this
>point gun at her >'don't MAKE me take that away from you~'
my HEART
i haven't played NV since the year it released so my memory is foggy but these autistic threads make me want to go back and play it again. these threads make it seem like there is way more to do than what I remember. is the dlc good too?
can't say much for the dlc but I loved honest hearts but if you do play it again I suggest going out and modding it to the max you can use viva new vegas as a base guide and change some of the mods out but do look at the moids to avoid otherwise you can get a pretty good modded experience as long as you don't follow it to 100 percent and change some stuff out
also dusty distance redone is a must
DLC is a mixed bag. you either love em or hate em it seems like, if you're going to play follow this https://vivanewvegas.github.io/ guide for modding, includes all sorts of essential mods to make the experience not feel like total shit.
I replayed it some months ago, it's still holds up and is one of the best RPG made, just get some mods that remove your typical bethesda jank and you can even make it into a servicable shooting game.
Sprinting is "must have" at least for me when you're replying it for the nth time. Frick walking through gomorrah 10 times for that slave prostitute quest for example.
>Yellow Goodbye
very based list.
You can get some better sprint animations from this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74839 that don't mess up things like reloading. I like it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the sprint mod i had worked fine, you can adjust things like weapon holstering and AP cost iirc
2 years ago
Anonymous
the sprint you had works fine, yeah, I use the same one.
the one I posted just slightly expands upon it. it's not a replacer. just an enhancer.
I just cant play with sprinting, I prefer my games where my character has the same abilities as the other NPCs. So no sprinting.
Besides, I prefer more relaxing playthroughs where I can see the scenery and have a comfy playthroughs. Sure its no RDR2 but with some graphic mods it can be tolerable enough to enjoy a dangerous trip from Red Rock to the Powder Ganger Vault.
Dead Money is great if you're endgame kind of level. You go from being invincible anti material rifle killing machine in power armour / ranger armour with millions of food / water / stimpaks / drugs... Into naked and afraid with no supplies.
It's pretty refreshing to have to really fight to survive again, kind of like when you first start the game (but worse)
>these threads make it seem like there is way more to do than what I remember.
Of course they do, these threads are the single most dishonest place on the internet. Not even a Jezebel article has such malicious falsehood stitched into every fabrication and half truth. Theres been a gay forum war going on for 13 years, do not believe a single thing you read in this thread, I cannot stress this enough. Don't even listen to me, discover for yourself firsthand the contrast between social contract and reality that is this game versus the way people overrate it
You're underestimating just how much some people love the Fallout universe and interacting with its world building. For this NV is the superior 3D Fallout, and I think what makes most people bounce off is the fact they're not really fans of either CRPGs or the Fallout universe. For fans of the former, NV is still imo one of the better examples of how a classic RPG would look in a modern time and for fans of both CRPGs and Classic Fallout it's a love letter to both.
I've tried to get back into it but I always get bored after a few hours. There is no difficulty, no item scarcity and extremely simplistic RPG elements.
I remember when oblivion was considered extremely simple and boring. Now it's simpler bastard Offspring is considered deep and a story about grumpy man fighting over a piece of land is considered interesting.
I'd rather go back and play Morrowind or fallout 2 before playing any more of this dummed down abomination.
dunno, how do 3tards defend >[Science 95%] mr. president, have a nice day my man
and before you say "hurr in fallout you had to prove to the master that his plans would fail", maybe that would have been a point had new vegas gotten more dev time or maybe it wouldn't have been. we can never know, but since most of the anti new vegas shitposting seems to come from the same enclave-obsessed indian, they probably never even considered it. frick you all.
>dunno, how do 3tards defend >[Science 95%] mr. president, have a nice day my man
Probably because that's one of the most famous pulp sci fi tropes that ever existed is defeating a robot with logic and the image of Captain Kirk jerking his body around to outwit a machine, is laser tattooed in the brain of everyone who worked on the game, and Fallout is a series that loves pop culture sci fi where it fits perfectly and you're just a zoomer homosexual repeating something he heard a slightly older zoomer homosexual say
Very strange to see Fallout 3 gays whine about zoomers when it and Oblivion are like two of the most iconic zoomer childhood games ever.
Also frick you. If that's really the case I don't ever wanna see 3tards ever whine about pop culture shit in New Vegas ever the frick again.
How difficult is it to get into making mods? Always wanted to try my hand at making a custom companion like Niner or Delilah but I see the GECK and I have no clue what is going on.
Every rpg with a CHA/Speech stat is like this because it’s written by a stupid fricking nerd >I am irrational person with violent intent, here is my moronic reason with clear logical faults >aha I am the high CHA character, I will point out your obvious faults! >whoa you’re right time to kill myself lmfao
Irl trying to talk to a murderous thug just ends with you dead, so you might as well embrace the moronation of it.
I love how artificial this whole NV hate shit on this site is and can tell how it's just 1 dedicated schizo. As soon as it stops spamming thread goes back to normal and people who like NV just come out of the woodwork and praise the game in good faith like it's always been kek
>Me: "Today, I will kill an NPC in Fallout 3." >Fallout 3: "Wait no, you can't do that." *revives them like they're Jesus Christ waking up from a 3 day nap*
No one here played Fallout 1 so i rest my case, Bethesda took once a cool franchise and turned it to shit, how is that Fallout 76 going? enjoying the new season pass?
Fallout 1 kinda feels barren and bafly needs content, Fallout 2 is very good until you get to San Francisco it becomes dogshit, and idk how they could ruin a super premise and idea like Chienese descendants in SF, by adding the most boring cliches from 70' action kung fu movies and scientology knock offs. Could've been very great with a whole new way of perspective for the great war or an interesting localisation filled with mercenaries and Shi fighters. Could've been cool but they made it so dog shit omfg.
>Fallout 1 kinda feels barren and bafly needs content
nah the game is the most replayable in the series alongside Fallout 2, took me 30 hours the first time and each playthrough will at least take 15 hours to finish, a lot of build variety to start each time.
I dont agree, Fallout 1 has little replay value. Especially in an evil playthrough. You cant really build a unique character since all .233 pistol, Plasma Rifle and Rocket Launcher are the objectively best weapons for their respective class and once you get a Power Armor/Tesla Armor you cant be killed by Mutants.
Fallout 2 did far better things in that regard with much more choice, quests and faction to play with.
Black person I never said it was bad, its just a very short game with little to do or with interesting choice. The atmosphere, factions and world is masterclass, but its not the best C-RPG that everyone say it is. That title belongs to Arcanum.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fallout 1 is one of the best 2d RPG ever made RPG is not a table game with the goal of being always replayble
2 years ago
Anonymous
Other games did a better job than F1 when it comes to that, Fallout 2, Arcanum, Baldur's Gate 2 and Age of Decadence at the top of my head.
Reality is that Fallout 1 layed the ground works for better top downs RPG and what one can do with a market saturated with Sword and Sorcery stuff.
>I dont agree, Fallout 1 has little replay value
top of my head >sniper build >melee build >pacifist silver tongue build >not including all the traits, skills, perks and stats that you can toy around with.
c'mon now.
>Sniper Build >Melee Build
All combat builds, the playthrough wont change much. >Pacifist
One out of two ways to play the game actually. >All the traits
Excluding Jinxed, non of the traits really change much. You can play as a vampire in Fallout 1. Its fun until you notice nearly all the quests cant be done at night.
Also they arent got that many good unique perks compared to NV or 2 so not a very convincing argument.
I make the case that, considering what the Republic did to the Brotherhood back west, Lyons had a point on changing how things worked in his chapter.
Of course, all of that's for naught thanks to that bastard Maxson.
Fallout 3 is obviously a flawed game and pales in comparison to the other Fallout games and even Fallout 4 in some aspects, but I still find it fun, though it's partially because it was my introduction to the series. The Capital Wasteland really does feel desolate and just walking around in the literal wasteland and fending off raiders is enjoyable in of itself. Point Lookout and the Pitt were great experiences too, probably the highlight for the whole game for me, really. The stupidly high resistance of the tribals and the swampfolk is still stupidly high though.
New Vegas Redesigned 2 or 3 will probably be your best bet. BNW is essentially version 4 and adds new voices but I don’t think it affects as much characters as 2 or 3.
FCO is honestly alright and there’s people making patches for custom companions with it, and while a lot of people complain about pink face bugs I’ve personally never had an issue with it. Definitely not everyone’s cup of tea though.
Dragbody has some neat looking overhauls, but for most of his stuff the eyes are actually considered ‘items’ and not actual parts of the head, so they don’t move and it can look a bit weird. Think he’s moving away from that with his most recent stuff, though, and the armor he does looks neat.
I think most players that aren't trying to scrounge up some form of cope can agree that Lanius is a let down. For him to be convinced of the West's weaknesses becoming his own, then you should have actually had to do shit like complete the quests where you see how stretched thin the NCR is trying to hold Nevada or attest to how Hanlon considered the region indefensible in the long run, let alone something like going on to conquer Arizona. That this is something that's happening despite having the advantage in numbers over the Legion, so no matter the prowess of their soldiers, they would be physically stretched way too thin to hold both. Then if Lanius said something like >while I detest the skulkery of Vulpes, we can easily place key members to control regions
You could retort with having defused the situation with the Omertas, Great Khans, or even just their sabotage at Camp McCarran. Like some people would probably try to cite "muh deadlines" but this is a critical part of the game, and it is a flaw they didn't make it enough of a priority to add in some simple quest step checks to the speech options
Ulysses is ultimately a bit better, since you actually have to pick the right dialogue options to convince him or he'll get pissed even with 100 speech
I don't mind that people want to like fallout 3 over NV. Don't agree with it, but whatever.
What I don't get is how sweaty you guys are about a single player rpg.
To get to this dialogue, you need to have maxed out speech. While any Fallout player would know that speech is important, there are only 5 or 6 significant speech options that require a skill over 80.
The only reason this seems easy is becasue we all know there is a 100 speech option there. A new player might not know because you were never asked for 100 speech before.
I'm replaying NV on Very hard and I might have died 4 times in 60 hours, mostly due to my own explosives. I know where to get the best weapons, where enemies spawn etc. Criticizing the game for being easy would be stupid. I just played it too much.
In Fallout 1 you can get the best ending by having a holotape.
I'm starting all over on my new vegas playthrough since I fricked it up and did a no no
so far I like the mods I'm install over the ones I had before
ysi and darn look so much better than vanilla ui plus and actually makes the menus more tolerable
FO3 has enemy scaling too dumbfrick moron. It's why it's a rule of thumb not to EVER enable broken steel in your main save until you're at the very last stage of the MQ because of feral ghoul reavers that tank mini nukes due to fricked up lvl scaling
Personally, I like using Hitman's season mods but I like to disable his laser weapon animations and replace them with rockbiter's animations.
Also pick up rockbiter's clean animations, you can use them both and clean animations largely just affects weapons added by mods.
I like exploring nv.
I do not like exploring in fallout 3.
too easy, not enough reason to explore.
just wacky teddy bears and plungers on mannequins everywhere.
lol
I'll just use his seasons then and install his extra mods that I like in anniversaery then
I at least have a good excuse now to restart over again since he started doing classic weapons
Yeah those classic weapon animations he made are great.
I don't really like using Webb's huge pack on its own so I installed just the weapons from that pack I liked individually, grabbed hitman's animations he made for them and just tweaked the .json file to affect those versions of the weapons.
It's crazy how much more enjoyable that wattz pistol from 2008 is when it has actually good animations.
see that fricking pic moron?
even a 5000yo civilization can create a bridge on that fricking river >massive advancd technolgoy
FARMERS WITH 1800 CANNON AND BROKEN RIFLE WITH NO SUPPLIES
Really impossible enemy right?
every single moron can win a siege gainst these idiots
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correction you love following a quest mark
[...]
veterans died but the Dam was took over and the NCR escaped.
if they stopped battle won
[...]
IS AN RPG
DICE ROLL TARD
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mad redditor
I have quest markers disabled in the tweaks mod.
like the classic fallouts.
like a real rpg.
Elijah is a real kino character and is right about quest markers being shit.
lol
don't enbs still break imods? The bets one is one that doesn't break anything in the game, so none.
Honestly though childhood is idolizing them, adulthood is realising that using vanilla and a mod that slightly tweaks the colour correction is the way to go.
shitty recruits + the veterans who survived agains some moron who forgot to escape with 0 mercenary to support them since all escaped
how can you lost tard?
[...]
yeap bro we trust you
we? it's just you against all the other people in the thread.
did you run out of things to attack me for? did finally realise that I'm right?
yeah enb breaks mods but also the game itself as well which the why you should just install stuff like yellow good bye or desert natural weathers instead
exactly this. yellow goodbye or desert natural weathers are the best modern way to go. I use the latter with climate control. it's fantastic.
I didn't mean mods, I said imods. imods are things like the screen effects in the vanilla games like fade to blacks used in various cutscenes across both Fallout 3 and NV. when they don't work with things like enbs it makes lots of things jarringly ugly like Fallout 3's birth intro, the Broken Steel intro and things like Dead Money's intro.
Rushed development cycle, probably. Whole ending feels like it would have been a lot more, such a grand finale reduced to just a minor set piece seems weird. Maybe could have been a proper dialogue tree had they not put out a KotOR2-like game.
You know that isn't the only line of dialog in the Legion showdown finale? Hell you still have to fight to get to this point. Convenient shitposters forget that.
>Ganker used to almost unanimously laud this game >threads full of great, knowledgeable discussion almost every time you saw one >now thanks to a few Fallout 3 Pajeets and troony obsessed /misc/cels who spend dozens of hours a week searching "[game name} + troony" to compose epic screenshots every NV thread is a dumpster fire
NewBlack folk leave.
Not the best, still miles ahead of 3's version of this dialogue >have a nice day my man
Why would I do that? >You're an abortion of science, you need to die*
Ok, that checks out.
*Not paraphrasing for comedic effect that's the entire reason given for the hundred year old supercomputer to delete system 32.
>khans finally get a taste of their own medicine >NOOOOO you can't just raid us back only we can slaughter women and children its not fair SAVE US PAPA
gorgeous trips. I hate how easy it is to but a single bullet in an ally who wanted to melee fight, only for them to start attacking you or running when the fight is over and you're supposed to be getting your quest rewards
>negotiate for khan release >they tell me the next quest step for finding benny >run out and immediately shoot lt monroe >ambush all ncr by going back in the load zone and abuse VATS >kill the hostages >kill all the khans afterwards too
LOCK ME UP
Role-playing skill based mechanics is based.
Seethe.
there's nothing wrong with speeching the final boss down, but they really couldn't come up with anything more convincing?
nope wring as shit
naturally i want a possibility to speech the final boss but this chance must be created during the game.
example you forgot to do a secondary mission inside an hidden location?
chance lost
Like for Planescape
"you may be victorious in battle, but the Legion does not possess the logistics to hold the NCR"
is an entirely reasonable way to convince a general not to invade
hunger has won more wars than any tactic in history, and Lanius knew it
yes the highest ranking generals of the faction, one of which is a scholar as well as a strategist, never sat down for one second to think "if I move my army from east to west the east becomes vulnerable" great writing
dilate
He only agrees because he knows the Courier is right, but his devotion and loyalty for Caesar is clouding his judgement.
As I clearly said on my post
nice cop out
Cop out? It's very clearly stated on his dialogue if you actually bothered to read it
Especially if Caesar dies
yup, one of the things he outright admits is that during the Denver campaign the Legion almost starved and got lucky the city broke before they did
the reason you need 100 speech or 100 barter is not because you're lying to him, it's because you're working through massive layers of delusion and loyalty to get him to realize a truth he already knows
Have you not played the game? Do you not know how strong the motivation/threat of dis/obeying Caesar is to the Legion troops? Literally, LITERALLY his soldiers are used as meatshields and fodder in wartime combat. Those men throw themselves into death, what makes you think the highest ranking general isn't wholly devout to Caesar to the point of making humongous, foot-shooting sacrifices?
A lot of the plot of NV in general seems cool until you realise it's pretty surface level nonsense. It's intriguing enough to make fanboys out of the autists, but not enough for anyone who isn't a lobotomite
I'd say it's the other way around. Context is everything in this story, and whittling it down to the bare elements in a reductionist fashion fails to paint the proper picture and serves only as entry level of ridicule as a Family Guy cutaway.
You need 100 speech to convince him of this. In the same way someone with 100 science can hack through pre-war high security facilities.
It's not so much he didn't realize it, he says something like Caesar dedicated too many resources to this campaign, even now he draws too much of the blood from the east blah blah blah..
So it's more like he knew / suspected but was bound to invade anyway (honor or loyalty to Caesar maybe?) and you having 100 speech aka being the most convincing fricker on the planet that can talk down and sell any bullshit argument to anyone, anywhere, is able to fully convince him of this
That's my take at least
Convincing the general of an army that his devotion to Caesar is blinding him of a glaring flaw of his expansion plan (spreading the Legion thin) that will no doubt cause their downfall in the end isn't convincing enough?
You can convince Lanius to frick off with high enough speech or convince him there's not enough supplies with high enough barter or lie and say there's a trap up ahead. The best thing about New Vegas is that speech isn't the be all end all stat and other stats like science or medicine can help you win conversations too.
>perpetuate strawman
>"UHHHH SHOULDNT IT BE BETTER"?
lol okay homosexual
the bluff speech route is better anyway
You know the line is literally referencing how Rome fell right? {-Hyper inflation} How can somebody above ten not get that
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
KYS
Sorry
aap jaanate hain ki rekha ka shaabdik arth hai ki rom kaise sahee hua? {-haipar inphleshan} das se oopar ke kisee vyakti ko yah kaise nahin mil sakata hai
bhaad mein jao tum teen sabase achchha gambheer kutiya maan kameene 41% ho jaata hai
Really? That's interesting.
That's character skill, and possibly the worst form of skill there is since you the player aren't the one getting better or having agency, just the game giving you free shit because you spend useless time getting an arbitrary number so you can put more arbitrary numbers that will give you for free those conversations. True skill is different, and probably won't be done since the tech isn't there, and most people wanting to talk philosophy with npcs don't realize that the vast majority of people are morons.
It's a role-playing game, you fricking idiot
ROLE PLAYING FOR THEM MEAN VN
are obsidian homosexuals they only like click on dialogue options
by doing it once for giggles and replaying it a few hundred more times while most of those games dont even progress past benny in the tops
Kek, this is me. 800 hours and I only finished the game 4 times for the achievements.
>nutrannies are mentally ill
Shocking.
>NOOO STOP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES
obsessively playing the same game 100 times is mentally ill
nope, modern video games are just shit
you got me there, but beig honest ive never seen a game there the speech skill didnt feel like bullshit. the idea of talking people down from war, murder and so on in half a minute just feels cheap and moronic.
Reminder. 3spammer on suicide watch, eternally mindbroken by New Vegchads.
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
the left cant meme
>he thinks every argument has to be a meme
this is your brain on fallout 3.
>t_d redditor is also a 3 fan
Like clockwork
reddit blown the frick out
THE REAL IMAGE HERE moron THIEF
damn did the 3spammerschizo really go out his way to make this? and theres not even a single genuine argument or fact to be read in there.
damn, you really got mindbroken by new vegas being the better game hard.
He's obviously a satire and a good one at that, I hope he keeps up the good work
Are New Vegas vs Fallout 3 gays the most moronic people on Ganker? You're the only ones who haven fallen for that moronic ESL italiananon's bait when everybody else has ignored him for a decade
excellent satire, needed more capslock
I hope this is real.. so many pajeets defending fallout 3.. memes write themselves
>Yeah just siege a force defending the other side of a bridgehead you're trying to capture
We got Napoleon over here
1ST RULE OF ANY WARFIRE
YOU CAN'T ASSAULT A FORTRESS WITHOUT PREPARATION WITHOUT SIEGING IT FIRST.
Basic war tactics knew since day 1 of humanity
The workers building the bridges and ships would get shot at you moron
by who?
any moron who will leave the Dam will be ambushed by vulpex
they can't do nothing
ROMANS BUILD BRIDGE, WALLS, FORTRESS ETC...
YOU WANT TO LARP AS A ROMAN?
START TO BUILD
The Rangers and Sharpshooters who won the actual battle
the rangers who escape and bait the legions into a trap?
they didn't win nothing
This kinda looks like winning to me
LEGION CONQUEST THE DAM, NCR ESCAPE AND LEGION FOLLOWED DAM INTO A TRAP
WHAT IF THE LEGION DECIDED TO NOT FOLLOWED THEM?
NCR LOST
BETTER MAP
BETTER CHARACTER
BETTER QUEST
THE PLOT IS A COMPELTE MASTERPICE WITHOUT A SINGLE COSPLAYER OR GHOUL IN SPACE
Reddit Hivemin must get the rope
What? the Legion was getting it's high command picked off by Rangers and i'm pretty sure the entire Dam hadn't fallen yet if the Legion didn't pursue the Rangers then they would have probably still lost due to their officers all getting killed
NCR general order full retreat for this trick
So? a few Rangers fell back and killed a massive portion of the Legion's army while the main NCR army still held
held what?
even if a compelte retreet do not include low tier farmers these farmers in no way can surviv againstt legions soldiers if all the best rangers escaped
What? the NCR would be mostly fighting disorganized recruits and some Veterans because the majority of the Legion's elite force would be pursuing the Rangers also the NCR's army isn't that shit and there would probably still be a few elite troops holding like the Heavy troopers
not the point tard
the point what if the legion didn't follow the escaping NCR army?
would jus took over the Dam
nothing more
There's a chance they couldn't because once again their army was getting it's officers killed and was starting to just become a disorganized mob if they didn't chase them then they would just keep getting shot at
the goal is took over the Dam and you still follow them for revange?
not the legion
die for the goal is the point
look the image
walking for DC an find this
an unmarket locations in an unmarket place of DC
SO KINO
SINCE FALLOUT 1
Yeah and it's a lot harder to take the Dam when your best men are getting killed by the Rangers
all NCR best man escaped where is the problem?
They fell back because the Legion sent their best men to kill them if they didn't the Rangers would stay and continue killing their officers
Looks like a wild wasteland encounter or the same room you find in Li's escape to the Citadel. Next you will show me the frick you door as something worth to see kek ?
Build a bridge out of fricking what? Corrugated iron? Under machine gun fire? Across the GRAND CANYON? Seriously?
OF EVERYTHING
2077 materials of megalopolis are not bricks tard
complete flawless masterpice
if you hate fallout 3 you just hate exploration and gaming
>if you hate fallout 3 you just hate exploration and gaming
No, I hate enemy level scaling and percentage speech checks.
>enemy scaling
you hate gaming since fallout 3 block you from oneshotting everyone
>he doesn't even try to defend the percentage speech checks
lol
a real RPG
YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO FAIL
this is not moron
the legion build an entire camp for all their soldiers
helf of that woods will build any bridge or ship you want
THE GOAL WAS TOOK OVER THE DAM NOT KILL PEOPLE
Enemy scaling tard
in new vegas you can reach level 20 by just speaing making the rest of the game just 1 shotting
And they can't take the Dam if their entire army breaks apart because the NCR sniped all of their leaders
The entire legion army was full , yeap veterans many veterans get killed but the point of having an horder of primitvism is haing infite man power.
once took over th Dam doesn0t matter how many vetena died NCR has no more position , water, power, to do anything
TO MAKE THE GAME FREE TO BE EXPLORED
EXPLORATION KINO
NOT RAILROAD
>to explore
that just sounds like a sandbox, not an rpg.
lol
>hate exploration
truly VN reader
LMAO TOTALLY moronATION
Touch grass Black person
I can barely understand what you'e saying but the Legion army was mainly recruits that were used to take the majority of damage in the assault if enough of the Legion's Officers and Veterans die than the recruits will break resulting in the Veterans being vulnerable and having to retreat
if it was a real rpg you wouldn't need enemy scaling to make the game harder.
you would do what NV does and just have tough enemies be in areas they should be tough.
lol
Yeah, I'm guessing you have literally no idea of the scale of the Grand Canyon. Its big. Hilltops aren't that hard to fortify, people have been doing it since the neolithic era. Even the irl Romans though probably couldn't have built a bridge across the Grand Canyon, sans machine gun fire.
ARE YOU JOKING RIGHT?
Romans created a bridge on the Rhine 100 times bigger than this baby river
The Rhine wasn't a big ass canyon defended by a modern army. And Caesar's Legion are not the Romans. They're a collection of primitive tribals crudely beaten into a fighting force. The heights of their engineering prowess are building a hillfort and some barges out of corrugated iron sheets. That's it. They've almost nothing in the way of solid building materials, what with being based out of a fricking desert.
see that fricking pic moron?
even a 5000yo civilization can create a bridge on that fricking river
>massive advancd technolgoy
FARMERS WITH 1800 CANNON AND BROKEN RIFLE WITH NO SUPPLIES
Really impossible enemy right?
every single moron can win a siege gainst these idiots
correction you love following a quest mark
veterans died but the Dam was took over and the NCR escaped.
if they stopped battle won
IS AN RPG
DICE ROLL TARD
mad redditor
If the Veterans die than the shitty recruits will either break or just fail to punch through the NCR line
shitty recruits + the veterans who survived agains some moron who forgot to escape with 0 mercenary to support them since all escaped
how can you lost tard?
yeap bro we trust you
Yeah they have a bridgehead established at Cottonwood Cove. The thing is, if they tried to send their main force across there, the NCR would spot the large troop movement instantly and they'd be stuck between three or four NCR forces, the ones at the dam and Boulder City, the ones at Helios One, reinforced by Camp McCarran, and Mojave Outpost which can be readily reinforced from California proper. Their army would be surrounded and destroyed.
However, if they successfully storm the far side of the dam, they've a straight push toward the city of New Vegas. There's no need to expose themselves to reinforcements from California via the Mojave Outpost.
NO Hoover Dam?
no water, no energy, supply base for Legion raids
etc...
loosing Hoover Dam mean lost all the war, local population will kill every single NCR moron for a glass of water
>YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO FAIL
That's not a good thing. You can have maximum speech in Fallout 3 and still fail speech checks. Or you can have low speech and just reload your save until the game randomly decides to let you win.
If you have 1 charisma you should fail speech checks. That's how RPGs work. If you have average charisma of 5 and 100 speech you get a 100% chance on almost every speech check and with charisma of 10 you get 100% on the hardest speech checks.
>t. hasn't played FO3 in a decade
Put more effort into your shitposting dumbfrick idiot. Commando+Rifleman builds oneshot the shit out of everything, as do crit shotguns.
This is moronic. Far easier to just do what the Legion is doing in New Vegas, massing cannon fodder to storm the dam while weakening and harassing the NCR from the inside via terrorism, raids out of Cottonwood and support to their enemies like the Fiends
Yeah just have your army of primitives with armed with spears and machetes, dressed in football gear and based out of a fort made of trash build a bridge across the Grand fricking Canyon and assault the far side with just so happens to be defended by at least several thousand troops armed with modern weapons. Easy peasy.
>just 2 screenshot at the end of game
As opposed to fallout 3's 1 screenshot?
I honestly don't mind the east coast brotherhood of steel being different from the west coast chapters, and there is background lore for them being the way they are to justify their portrayal
How is the gender reassignment going? Have you guys had your bottom surgery yet?
i see you stopped using your readily available handy folder of transexual stuff
its ok to be curious
for the next 6 or so hours at least
>How is the gender reassig-ACK!
Here's the hardest pill to swallow: without Bethesda you would've never heard of fallout, never would have bothered playing it and never would have gotten New Vegas which is probably the only one you've actually played to completion as you people usually pretend to like 1 and 2.
Even then, fans of 1 and 2 are 99% modern fans who discovered the IP after Bethesda marketing put it in the spotlight and not boomer day 1 fans from the CRPG heyday where 5 people bought the games.
So without Bethesda the name of fallout would enver be ruined forever by new vegas?
the game who killed all fallout themes turned it into a polticial garbage game
BTFO and now mad
LMAO
no I'm confused because you have a poor grasp of the English language.
shit language
why you can0t argue back?
have you mental problems?
>Here's the hardest pill to swallow: without Bethesda you would've never heard of fallout, never would have bothered playing it and never would have gotten New Vegas which is probably the only one you've actually played to completion as you people usually pretend to like 1 and 2
This would make a zoomers head explode, but of course they're too stupid to even process this information or consider what it means for even a single second v
>Ok boomer, what ever you say boomer
Go back to the retirement homes grampa you shat yourself again
Don't get salty zoomer, just accept it. Without Bethesda you would never have played Fallout, so quit screeching.
Damn this is kind of indisputable. I like both (prefer NV) but this pretty much nails it.
i didn't realize fallout 3 was so shit until I actually played NV
3>4>new vegas
2>3>4>76>new vegas >1
anything else is nonbased
>I'AM IN CHARGE HERE! I'AM THE ENCLAVE!
YES
AUTUMN THE REAL MC OF FALLOUT 3
>muh Bitter Springs
The Great Khans have been a shitty raider faction that has harassed the NCR since it was made. They do nothing but kill and hurt innocent people and make and sell drugs. Even in the "good" Great Khan ending in which the Followers of the Apocalypse help them get better, they don't REALLY get better. Like what did they expect? That the NCR wouldn't attack them the moment they get a chance or an opportunity to wipe them out? The only thing the NCR did wrong was fail to kill all of them.
>They do nothing but kill and hurt innocent people and make and sell drugs
like every faction in new vegas
Great khans are kinda respectable raiders who are somewhat civilized.
if you want to kill them all be ready to genocide every single person at east of california.
MOTOR RUNNER INSTEAD?
A REAL MONSTER?
it's ok bro do wtf you want
>If you want to kill the Great Khans then you're evil
lol, no. You're just plain wrong and moronic. There's no redemption for the Great Khans.
Nope
if you kill the great khans because for you are Evil then you need to kill everyone in new vegas too.
moronic logic.
NCR volontary attack not raiders of the great khans to cover their incompetence caravan defense.
objective evil
>not raiders of the great khans
Just because they're women and children and old people doesn't mean they're not part of the raider gang, stupid. Those kids would grow up to be active raiders themselves. And those old people were probably raiding when they were younger too.
better shoot them while they flee in that case. they MIGHT have done a raid or two after all.
>not convincing them to do a suicidal attack against the legion
homie the khans are methheads living strung out on couches outside of dilapidated mobile homes
literally one of the first lines in the game is Benny berating the Khans with a stereotype of inhumane cruelty
Seems to work, the Khans have been around longer than the NCR. they were the only named and threatening raider group from Fallout 1.
I dunno man yeah they're chemheads but something about them seems to work.
Imagine dying on this hill when NCR have been British-tier expansionists since they secured a water supply.
Can someone translate this to English?
stupid people need to go back
>fallout 3
YOU DIE FOR RESTORE LIFE IN DC
frick off tard
the virus just kill mutans
>autumn
doomed to fail
in no way coudl stop liberty prime with just 1/4 of enclave
>YOU DIE FOR RESTORE LIFE IN DC
DO NOT REDEEM!
lo siento amigo pero neccessito que aprendas mas ingles antes de puedes usar el Ganker
Como odio a los argentinos, tanto que es irreal
Your head explodes if you drink purified water after siding with Enclave
meme to avoid an enclave route in broen steel
without the DLC there is nothing about it
>thinking there is a black and white good and bad faction in NV
gwa ha ha ha
>"oh, I did bad shit but it was for a good purpose"
damn dude, so the Master was the true good ending of F1 after all?
i dont understand how anyone can like 3 more. its so much more linear, the setting is repetitive and boring, and the writing/story is a fricking joke. even the worst dlc of nv, lonesome road, is still better than 3.
Fallout 1 was like that
>wide open barren overworld
>few interesting places
>skill checks are few and far inbetween
>waterchip timer semi-forces you into the story
>only decades later did they "remove" the second timer
Comparing a game made in 2008 to one made in 1997 is not a good argument.
only with surface level thoughts
>bethesda buys fallout
>guy from the memes tell the new devs/team to learn fallout and shit
>they watch a youtube on what it is
>make fallout 3 based on what they got from fallout 1
it makes sense if you dig a little deeper with thinking. sorry anon
So you admit Bethesda is moronic and Fallout 3 is a bad Fallout game?
that was never the point.
im saying fallout 3 was barren and huge map because thats how fallout 1 was
>modders throwing tantrums on forums makes all new vegas players trannies
ill never understand this train of thought
Curious.
>download this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/23556
>have fun in 3 again
maybe get another hobby other than monitoring trannies?
you can be one of us just stop bringing your gaybag with you wherever you go proping it up as your whole personality
fallout 3 works with no mods
new vegas can0t even run without 10k of them
>fallout 3 works with no mods
the game literally doesn't launch on windows 10 PCs without modifications anon
buy the steam versions on sale? even fo1/2/t works on win11
is it still grooming when trying to ungay you?
why do you have so many of these on hand ready to go? this is what i mean by gaybag
almost every "new" feature in NV are just integrated popular mods for Fallout 3, like ammo crafting and weapon mods
that isn't what made NV better than FO3 or FO4, though
if NV is such a good game then why aren't you playing it instead of coping about how this pale imitation of Fallout 3 with more expensive writers is such a superior game
if FO3 is a better game why aren't you playing it instead of crying about NV on a mongolian basket weaving forum?
because it doesn't work on Linux
By your logic, posting on 4chin is strictly prohibited, dummy.
>STOP SAYING MEAN THINGS ABOUT FALLOUT 3!
Yes. Stop.
I am playing it right now though.
I feel bad for Veronica because I genozide the Irongays in most runs.
If she didn't want me to genocide her family she should have let me frick her
>if NV is such a good game then why aren't you playing it instead of coping about how this pale imitation of Fallout 3 with more expensive writers is such a superior game
Then why must 3 gays cry how much better 3 is with troony posting?
Do you think people are coping from the outstanding FO3 perks like +5 to a skill?
Is this an actual argument that 3gays like to make or something? I've noticed my friend who prefers 3 b***hing about NVgays using a lot of mods and going "If NV is so good why are they using 400 mods?????" from time to time, but I find it hard to believe that they actually think that
>3 is a perfect game that doesn't need mods and cannot be improved by them
>Long time fans of NV using mods in a game with a lot of mods available is a bad thing and invalidates their opinions on the games
You're not playing New Vegas hahaha
You're playing a game with 400 mods, 200 of which are for your specific fetishes. Just look at yourself.
But I like playing games in 144fps, with realistic recoil, ragdolls, blood and gun hit effects, actual working viewmodels etc.
Well that sounds fair actually.
I think the cutoff should be if you've ever found yourself sucking penis in New Vegas, you shouldn't be defending the game. That's just how I feel though.
3gays also use mods. They just don't want to admit it because they want to sound superior over NVgays.
no one use mod in fallout 3
after the game yes but not to play fallout3
>Source: dude trust me
>The 3652000 DLs is just a photoshop
>fallout 3 works with no mods
homie f3 crashes on consoles, let alone steam release
>maybe get another hobby other than monitoring trannies?
>you can be one of us
Already trying to fricking groom people huh homosexual? You'll burn in Satan's inferno you gay rapist.
Just weird coincidences.
>its so much more linear, the setting is repetitive
The actual Fallout 3 world allows for way more freedom in exploration, which is far more important than freedom in faction reputation management, especially in a game like New Vegas where choices don't matter at all.
The setting being more repetitive is a dogshit lie. It's orders of magnitude more detailed than the NV desert to the point even Obsidian would call you a wiener riding fricking lying b***h. They had way less time and a much smaller team to decorate an entire world that has twice as many quests than Fallout 3.
>especially in a game like New Vegas where choices don't matter at all
>choices don't matter at all
no choice of new vegas matter since there is only 1 route
you choice a pro legion mission?
you fail 99% of the quest and can0t enter anymore in 99% of settlements
women and children do not steal because if they do this mena NCR soldiers are the biggest joke ever and this was just a coping punitive campaine to hide their incompetence
Tell me one choice that matters
I never understood the appeal of Fallout 3 exploring, you only explore :
>rumbled buildings
>metros
>super markets
>destroyed vaults
In most of these locations you will never found a frendly NPC or an unmarked quest, its only an evironnement to explore without a story to tell.
Wheras, New Vegas as way more stuff to explore, character to see and notes to read. All related to quests and with some loots, so no exploration is wasted in the end. Every location has a story to tell or a reason to exist, when in Fallout 3, it looks like they made locations at random and put the good unique ones at the extremity of the map.
I also dont understand people who complain that you can go to Vegas if you wish to. Vegas is filled with content and the detour you do to get to Vegas is only a fraction of what the game shows.
Its like nobody here actually played this game lmao.
>more things to explore
WHAT THE DESERT?
in a single piece of DC there are more hidden content then in all new vegas
ok redditor
What hidden content ? Besides GNR's whole questline and Sydney's quest what is there in DC the old capital of the USA ?
Oh yes, just 2 things worth exploting, the capitol acting as a dungeon with a Boss, and the Underwold (one of the most dissapointing towns in the whole series).
So much to explore in DC lmao.
>Vegas is filled with content and the detour you do to get to Vegas is only a fraction of what the game shows.
Bold of you to think these clowns played the game long enough to know that you CAN infact not follow the story on repeat playthoughs and how easy it is to walk past the high level creatures blocking the path straight to vegas.
>, its only an evironnement to explore without a story to tell.
Every single piece of architecture in Fallout 3 has a story to tell, this is so clearly not the case in New Vegas that people who play NV first can't settle this due to extreme autism and needing notes and numbers and homosexual transvestitism to play their game
>Every location has a story to tell or a reason to exist
Wrong. It has hundreds of pointless empty shacks with ten rounds of pistol ammo, nothing about it could be less unique or more repetitive in design
Okay give me 3 memorable locations that arent towns, bonus pokts if you dont mention Gary Vault, the Vault where you get hallucination or Dunwinch Buildings.
>Wrong. It has hundreds of pointless empty shacks with ten rounds of pistol ammo, nothing about it
You just describe what a shack is in the desert for travellers and bandits in the Mojave. A shack means there is life nearby and most of the tipe its a correct assumption qince you can fund traders, raiders or soldiers around these locations. This fact is the same for Fallout 3.
Again, most of the explorable buildings and locations in New Vegas are tied to quest and unmarked quest so yes there is more story and stuff to see in 3 than NV. Thats a fact.
They're just being contrarian because it's fun to argue on the wrong side.
They're like ds2 fans but more self-aware
I'll admit it is funner to defend 3 because it's more challenging. I won't defend shit like magaton however, that's too moronic to defend.
if you just want good writing, read a book. 3 is the better actual game.
3 is the better actual game if you ignore that it has:
>worse perks
>no traits
>less skill checks
>less importance of special
>less items
>less weapons
>less unique weapons
>no alternate ammo
>less crafting
>less quests
>less quest choices
>less locations
>less NPCs
>more invincible NPCs
>less factions
>less options
>worse combat
>worse companions
>less chances for roleplaying
>less lore
>less interesting setting
Checkmate.
It had that lever gun and gabes top hat. Game was awesome.
I prefer the exploration, FO3 you could wonder about and find interesting stuff, FONV essentially makes you take a long linear semi-circle to find a place that was down the road (felt like a waste of time to be honest, both myself and the character I roleplayed).
>lonesome road worst dlc
lmao
>bear bad but then good
>legion bad but then good
>you didnt know what you delivered because thats how couriers/mail system works but you are responsible for blowing this place up
>now you die
>or not
Literally go play old world blues you moronic monkey and tell me having lobomites at every corner with 3-6 robot scorpions is better
lobos are np
scorps are annoying but thats why god almighty gave us pulse ammo for kinetic weapons. and are no problem with energy or melee. assuming melee has piercing strike
It's not, but having interesting buildings to explore that tell stories about what happened there is better.
Lonesome road takes away your opportunity to explore in service of a cinematic, linear finish for the game. But they needed to make the entire DLC runtime feels as good as the last 10 minutes to make it worth the lack of freedom instead of making you run in a tube with scenic surroundings you can't actually explore while throwing filler enemies at you
>takes away your opportunity to explore in a service of a cinematic linear finish for the game
which is exactly why it's a great thing it's a breath of fresh radioactive air after rolling around in dust for hours with fiends
Did you say this about Operation Anchorage too?
It was decent for like 30 minutes when you get to the ruined town part where it's still pretty linear but there's small tidbids sprinkled around the small area to explore.
But then the last 80% are just running through boring highways and canyons while enemies spawn infront of you
???
>Operation anchorage
I could never bother to play fallout 3 because how terrible it is
it got boring to me after 3 hours
Moviegame without sense to bait the new nuking ending wanted by avellone
I seriously don't understand the appeal of what motherfrickers like you and op get out of doing shit like this.
>Oh man I boiled down a persons point and now it looks STUPID
No shit nerd you can do this with litterly fricking anything. You doing this doesn't prove anything as people already know how overpowered speech is in these fricking games.
Lonesome road is a garbage DLC gameplay wise. People remember the talks with Ulysses and the scenic shots of apocalyptic landscapes but these are 10% of the DLC. beside a few optional buildinds with a few rooms you can enter, the entire DLC is spent walking in a linear tunnel where you have to fight the same burned men and lizardpeople 30 times and doing a "puzzle" mechanic where you point a laser at an object in your way and hold left click for 3 seconds. There's barely any environmental storytelling anywhere either, if you turned all the textures blue it could pass for Operation Anchorage.
When a game is unpopular on Ganker for long enough, eventually people will larp as fans just to keep things fresh. You're starting to see it with Skyrim too.
>fallout 3 is so much more linear
>in new vegas i can clip around black mountain to go around the deathclaws and cazadors so i can go to vegas before the the plot allows me to
??????????????????????
>>in new vegas i can clip around black mountain to go around the deathclaws and cazadors so i can go to vegas before the the plot allows me to
Yes its called freedom to do what you want
cope
you lost half of the game
moron do not understans that character in game can lie
Yes, I can go to vegas but I'm not forced to do the quest num nuts. The rest of the game doesn't vanish if I go and get a fricking new laser gun
no scaling difficult
when you return back enjoy one shot everyone
yeah? so? that's the point. it's a open world role playing game not a locked down linear game besides for one dlc
no gaming
you just hate gaming
Obsidian gays just want VNs
so go to play VN and don0t ruin RPG with your opinions
You can't ever become female my son
That's not how it works your fricking level 4
if you want to one-shot max lock pick and get the scout sniper near camp golf
>You also don't have the caps or ammo supply to use it
>clip
????
it just feels so boring and lifeless. so many things about it are just not as good as NV. the voice acting is terrible, the writing is terrible, and the setting is just not as interesting. As well as the fact that the game is just so fricking linear.
The linearity is probably the biggest issue I have with it. It's just so fricking boring. There's no exploration, no side quests, nothing. Just a straight line from start to finish. NV had so much more to offer in that regard. The linearity holds it back in so many more ways than one. Allow me to elaborate,
The setting is incredibly boring and repetitive. There are only a handful of locations that you visit over the course of the game, and they all look and feel the same. There's no sense of exploration or discovery.
The writing and story are a complete joke. The main quest is incredibly simplistic and lackluster, and the side quests are even worse. There's no sense of urgency or stakes. It all feels incredibly safe and bland.
The voice acting is terrible. Every single character sounds like they're phoning it in. There's no emotion or passion in any of the performances.
Overall, Fallout 3 just feels like a cheap knock-off of NV. It's not nearly as good in any regard, and it's a complete waste of time.
If it just wasn't so linear, it could have been a much better game. The linear map as well was the linear gameplay strikes me as odd. I would have much rather had a more open world to explore with side quests and different things to do.
>Overall, Fallout 3 just feels like a cheap knock-off of NV
Can't imagine the mind that would say this knowing that New Vegas is literally the knock off and you're only saying the opposite to distract from that
What a creepy Black tier lie
There's no doubt that Fallout 3 was heavily inspired by New Vegas. However, there are also a number of ways in which New Vegas ripped off Fallout 3.
For example, the way the game handles companions is very similar to Fallout 3. In both games, you can have up to two companions following you around, and they will help you in combat. However, in New Vegas, you can only have one human companion at a time, while in Fallout 3, you could have multiple human and non-human companions.
Another example is the way the two games handle questing. In Fallout 3, you would typically get a quest from someone, and then you would have to go out and find the person or thing you were looking for. In New Vegas, however, many quests are given to you by NPCs who simply tell you where to go and what to do. This can often lead to a lot of backtracking, as you have to go back to the quest giver to get your reward.
Overall, there are a number of ways in which New Vegas ripped off Fallout 3. However, it's still a great game in its own right, and it's worth playing if you're a fan of the Fallout series.
>There's no doubt that Fallout 3 was heavily inspired by New Vegas.
Kek
>It is possible that the developers of Fallout 3 were inspired by the desert setting of New Vegas when creating their own game. As the setting for Van Beuran was also inspired by New Vegas.
New Vegas was actually in development before Fallout 2 was released.
>As well as the fact that the game is just so fricking linear.
>The linearity is probably the biggest issue I have with it. It's just so fricking boring. There's no exploration
Fallout 3 is objectively less linear and has more exploration with a larger variety of locations that are unique
>The setting is incredibly boring and repetitive. There are only a handful of locations that you visit over the course of the game, and they all look and feel the same. There's no sense of exploration or discovery.
You're just describing new vegas
>There's no sense of urgency or stakes. It all feels incredibly safe and bland.
Okay so the point of your post was to complain specifically about New Vegas but call it Fallout 3 in an attempt to troll, sorry I'm kinda slow
>the voice acting is terrible
literally LIAM NEESON + dog and Eden 1 of the best voice acting in videogame history
>it just feels so boring and lifeless.
oh desert instead what is?
HELL ON EARTH
this is DC not your funny colorfull reddit travel
>As well as the fact that the game is just so fricking linear.
EXPLORATION
the game want you to do wtf you want without railroads
how can be linear?
SIMPLE QUEST MARK
you can0t explora by your own so you need a gsp to railroad you
>The setting is incredibly boring and repetitive
wasteland, DC ruins, metro
all different cities and different story
MEANWHILE ALL SAME DESERT NOT?
Story is a complete masterpice about morale not about politcial moronation
EDEN,AUTUMN, HJAMES ,SARAH
all unforgettable character
TELL ME A SINGLE GOOD NCR CHARATER
in short
YOU HATE EXPLORATION
YOU HATE RPGs
YOU WANT JUST A RAILROADED EASY TRAVEL NOT A REAL ADVENTURE
You miss so much of the art of complaining about New Vegas. A Fallout 3 fan would never defend the story. I'm so disappointed by your inability to flesh out this Indian character even after thousands of threads.
the story is a masterpice in fallout 3
you are just moron
Didn't the computer president in Fallout 3 commit suicide because one of the optional choices was to tell him that he was an affront against god for being a computer? And that just did it for some reason. Killed himself AND blew up the Enclave.
EDEN LOST
AUTUMN REVOLTED AGAINST HIM
HE LOST THE CONTROL OF THE ENCLAVE
HE LOST HIS CHANCE TO USE THE VIRUS
HE LOST EVERYTHING EXCEPT 1 THING
YOU
YOU ARE THE ONLY HOPE OF EDEN FOR HIS PLAN
IF YOU REFUSE HE IS DEAD
this is the difference
No texan tard will make Lainus lost the control of the east
Yes. Also the FEV serum is the only way to help the Enclave despite being unable to join them and being hostile on sight. Even if you do it they are still hostile in Broken Steel, so what the frick was the point of helping Eden?
using his virus
in broken steel he is dead even if you don0t kill him.
Eden is his own version of the enclave and his ending block the DLC
GAMEPLAY FORCED
in no way a companions can survive the final battle
Yeah it's hilarious. I usually play a silver tongued scientist for maximum dialogue options, so I had this really civil conversation with him where we chatted about how he's a computer and his reasoning, and then I abruptly told him to kill himself and he was just like "Can't argue with that!"
>tell General Olivegarden he needs me to run the Dam since I have 100 Science and its "very complex"
>there is a character down in the Dam who tells you he has been working on and renovating it for like ten years
>there are entire teams of people down there who can call my bluff immediately
sounds realistic, is that a god thing or bad?
>[Speech 9000] O my radiation-immune friend, can you please flip the switch off in the radiation chamber so no one has to needlessly die?
>NO, IS YOUR DESTINY
Defend this
I don't think I can. Just a terrible game honestly with surface level rpg elements. If you want an rpg go play fallout 1 and 2
fallout 3 was also shit but you are a massive homosexual. dying for a good cause is good. not dying after a good cause is unironically bad
You are the biggest, most vile homosexual to ever live.
Sacrificing your life needlessly when you have the option to achieve the same result without having to do so is the most brain-dead moronic kind of thinking.
Sacrifice only hold weight when you have no other option but to scarifice.
Fricking moron dumb frick.
They literally forgot about the companions that are immune until the last second. It's not the devs trying to be deep, they literally had a tard moment and forgot lmao. I guess that's a defence?
This is made funnier by the fact that when you meet fawques he offers to go and get the GECK for you so you don't die of radiation.
that's the dumbest way to frame that speech check ever
>starfield releases next year
>locked 60 fps
>skyrim 2 releases in 2-3 years
>locked 60 fps
>fallout 5 releases in 10 years
>capped 90 fps
You can very easily overcome the fps lock on PC though, granted it's a stupid problem their games still have
if the khans didnt have the most well stocked ammo supplier in the mojave i would kill them every playthrough
bethesda hasnt made a real fallout game yet
>Eden is objectively more evil an destructive than Colonel Autumn and the Enclave
>Can only help Eden, and not Autumn
This is fricking stupid.
>is the real fallout 3 in your path
Fallout 3 is the only successor of Fallout 1
YES
most people recognize that having speech checks as an I win button is a copout. Fallout 1 is still the sterling example of defeating the final boss using speech.
>YOU b***h! YOU FRICKING b***h! DO NOT REDEEM THE FALLOUT NEW VEGAS!
I'd rather use my hand to wipe my ass than to stick my entire fist in it like you, bastard troony
You can't stick your entire fist in your hand what are you on about.
Do you have hand cancer anon
I think you tried to say something along the likes of
I rather use my ass to shit than to stick wiener init
or something like that idk
I do have hand cancer.
Is Lanius forgetting what happened to the previous Legate when he failed to take the dam? He's getting executed as soon as he steps foot in Caesar's tent. I guess Obsidian forgot that too, Lanius should not give up that easily when his fricking life is on the line if he fails.
how can Caesar do anything when he's a smudge on the walls of his tent
Honestly, they should've made it like FO1, where you need high speech AND some kind of physical evidence that the Legion are spread too thin. Maybe some supply logs you find in The Fort that show supplies slowly dwindling as the Legion's numbers grow, or testimony from Vulpes showing that even he thinks this kind of expansion isn't good for the Legion in the long-run. That'll also reward people who don't just ape out and kill him the moment they see him in Nipton.
That's just bad understanding of historiography, the Legion is expanding and acquiring more resources, they are the ascendant faction. NCR is the stagnant faction that is undergoing a catabolic process.
They think it's JUST LIKE MUH CLASSIC FALLOUTS even though they've never played any classic Fallout.
New Vegas is a better game than 2.
1 is better than both.
https://www.strawpoll.me/46091190
Let's settle this.
they're both shit.
Not the question. Didn't ask if they were both good or not. I asked which is better.
change the question then pussy.
NVgays then
>New Vegas is great because both the NCR and the Legion have deeper shades of grey morality and aren't just pure good vs pure evil
NVgays now
only morons ever said legion has deep shades of grey.
>i offer safe roads, in exchange you become a literal slave with no rights and your women and children will be shipped off to fight pointless wars of expansion or be sex slaves for my officers
>>i offer safe roads, in exchange you become a literal slave with no rights
I'm pretty sure the Legion trader who talked about "safe roads" wasn't a slave
>your women and children will be shipped off to fight pointless wars of expansion
They don't send women and children to fight wars. That's what the men are for. That's why they're "misogynistic", to prevent women from dying pointless deaths
>or be sex slaves for my officers
And you get their women in exchange, if you prove your worth, so it all evens out.
The fact that people actually defend the NCR because "no slavery", even though it's the one faction that fails to run New Vegas even in THEIR OWN ENDING will never fail to astound me. Housegays I can understand, because he keeps people on a tight leash and doesn't spread his resources too thin. But NCRcucks are hit over the head in every single NCR quest about how the NCR is corrupt and how its current structure just doesn't work, and they just refuse to accept the message.
>Yes, I SHOULD be allowed to join a faction that is xenophobic to everything that isn't them even though they don't view me as a human, even vault dwellers and pure humans.
Enclavekeks are delusional
Shithole obsidian writing
AUTUMN REFUSED TO KILL MUTANS WITH THE VIRUS
IT'S OVER TARD
YOUR FANFICTION IS NOT CANON
and now with MODUS and the Golden Enclave ENCLAVE RESURRECTED
They should have let you "join" them, only for you to be stabbed in the back in the end.
Then nobody would join them, moron. Why bother making a joinable faction that nobody will ever join because players don't want to get cucked?
Because it would be funny to shit on ignorant players by having them cucked in the end.
A moron (or useful moron, from an in-universe standpoint) joins the Enclave because they think the faction looks cool, only for the Enclave to frick them over once the player's "usefulness" runs out.
Enclave is shit only in the dogshit obsidian fanfiction tards
Isn't the whole point of the storyline that all but 1 of them have left the dogmas of the Enclave behind and all they want to do is One. Last. Ride?
Unless you side with the Legion instead of the NCR, in which case 2 out of the 5 leave and like 1.5 of them don't feel very good about it
Fallout 3 is a real game with real character
in fallout new vegas there are no characters just fanatics who spam their ideology.
Enclave and BoS fascist doomed to die
IN FALLOUT 3?
CHADS WITH THE ONLY GOAL TO SAVE DC POPULATION AND RESTORE AMERICA.
Real game VS propaganda
I really like this meme, very soulful and innocent
can you really sex deathclaws in nv?
t. hasnt played either game
You can in The Frontier fan mod
do you nerds still do the main story quest? just finish the tutorial and go out and start killing > leveling > crafting > repeat like every bethesda game since the 90s
Bethesda game are exploration tard
without exploration the main quest has no meaning.
did you have a stroke? the frick do you think happens when you hunt to kill
That's boring
I don't play FO3 or 4, but I do do that in modded Skyrim. In NV I do the quests though because I like them.
New Vegas' first quest is one of the best introductions in any RPG. Lots of optional stuff. Skill passes. All the NPCs are unique, and have things to say. You can choose who to side with, or how to engage. The Goodsprings area has lots of interesting loot, if you're willing to explore. Solid and great introduction to the game.
The first quest in Fallout 3 is about getting food from an old supermarket. There's no interesting characters, no skill checks, no interesting loot, no factions, and the conflict isn't urgent. Boring.
goodsprings is a microcosm of the overall main story, it's wonderfully executed.
There's a companion you can get at Megaton but you need bad karma to recruit him. Iirc he's a former raider guy who's a complete butthole. The problem with companions in 3 is that they are one dimensional and have a one-note personality, and don't have any quests or interesting dialogue.
THE FIRST QUEST IN FALLOUT CAN BE ANYTHING IS NOT A RWAILROAD LIKE REDDIT VEGAS
>MUH LORE
YEAP THE SUPERPOWER WHO DESTROYED BOS AND ENCLAVE IS LOSING AGAINST EVADE PRISONER
LOL
hello, pajeet
The first quest in FO3 is the one where you play as a baby and can't be skipped. Hehe.
KINO INTRODUCTION
COPE
and lose half of the game
ENJOY
>and lose half the game
that's hardly half the game and you can always go back and do those quests. personally I always go north first, unlock the gun runners and freeside fast travel points then go back to questing in the southern part of the map so I have the best vendors available from the rip.
>lol nope
no one shows you how to get around the deathclaws using the hillside platforms and shit on black mountain?
NV isn't a railroad? you can go straight north to NV, take the primm pass to get to novac without going all the way south or you can just go all the around the south. the only locations that are barred plot wise is the legion camp if memory serves, you can't take the barge until you get the invitation I think.
My favourite way to get to vegas early is to go through hidden valley and sneak past the first super mutant group at black mountain to get to the hillside path with the beartraps and falling boulders with the dead NCR soldier. It leads right to the ranger safehouse which has a clear shot at places like McCarren from there. The dead NCR soldier's clothes from the mountain can give you a disguise for the monorail, it's great.
It's part of the JAM mod. It adds a bunch of lightweight but really useful features like Fallout 4's quick loot menu too. I'm gonna guess that mod you use that puts away your weapon is Project Nevada. That mod is really old and was always buggy as hell and lead to crashes, it's heavily recomended by everyone to get replacements for it like JAM.
>FO3 has better exploration
New Vegas has more locations, more items, more weapons, more quests, more NPCs, more story and points of intrigue, etc. FO3 barely has any interesting content.
>New Vegas doesn't let you go where you want though
It does, you just didn't try.
NV I think does the "go where you want" thing better in that you can go where you want, but that doesn't mean the world will roll over for you. it's a dangerous place with dangerous creatures and the game reflects that, FO3 is a fallout themepark that hits all the notes without really understanding what they're making into the attractions.
FOR NEW VEGAS A SKELETON IN THE DESERT IS A LOCATION
AND IF OBSIDEN MADE FALLOUT 3 EVEN LITTLE LAMPLIGHT WOULD BE A FACTION
EVERYTHING IS A FACTION FOR NEW VEGAS
>not just playing both in succession using TTW & some difficulty mods
ngmi
How do people actually beat him, if you can't convince him to fight 1vs1?
The gank squad of around 10 elite soldiers plus him are downright impossible with most builds.
grenade machinegun + turbo
holorifle+better criticals
I take a lot of drugs and shoot them to death. Having hundreds of stimpaks also helps, basically every build is immortal if you just play the economy correctly.
you serious? did you not complete the DLCs? did you waste your level ups on stupid perks? you should be an unstoppable rapetrain at this point in the game. it's been a while since I played, but I vividly recall blowing his head off and mopping up the grunts without a single hit to my HP.
I'm doing a melee only run. Only parts I've died is the fricking packs of deathclaws and the airfield. Get good
and how are you going to kill deathclaw packs melee at all?
prob turbo
I just stealth past them. I don't remember needing to kill 10 of them at the same time. I can 2v1 them just fine. Also I cannot join the Legion or something? Does the game in the end force you not?
Completing the dlcs makes it significantly easier. In one run I stuck him with a chainsaw and his body exploded.
One of my favorite memories of the game.
Could always just lay down a shit ton of mines before you engage him
Plasma mines
by not being a discord shill :^)
>Go to Canterbury Commons where Antman and Ultron are fighting each other
>looks like a complete shithole just like everywhere else
>Apparently it's the center of caravan trade in DC.
Shit world building.
YEAP BECAUSE WAS ATTACKED moron
>HUB CENTER
BECAUSE WAS IN THE CORNER OF THE MAP TARD
>one shot everything is gaming
NO SCALING DIFFICULT
>BECAUSE WAS ATTACKED moron
By fricking what?
>weak things being weak is bad
it's called world building my guy, if you're running around in early zones with power armor and gauss rifles you should be tearing shit up because the enemies there aren't equipped to handle such a threat. you want a bandit with a pool cue to be a threat to a level capped Courier in the best armor in the game?
force the player to railroading
you mean Obsidian cucks BTFO BY ME
>force the player to railroading
what does this even mean lmao
>A tiny village with 2 houses and 1 quest is FO3's equivalent of The Hub
Woaw.. so atmosphereic sirs...
NOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU POINT THIS OUT! DO NOT FRICKING REDEEM NEW VEGAS!
REAL IMAGE HERE TARD
NCR secured nothing
all raiders already kill
>Bethesda: WE CAN'T STOP JERKING OFF THE BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL!
reminder that all new vegas has going for it is a mediocre story.
1. It's a cool story with multiple endings.
2. It has many fun sidequests.
3. You're a homosexual.
JUST 1 ROUTE WITH 3 SKINS AND 1 LEGION DEMON ROUTE
>SIDEQUEST
GO A RETURN B
MEANWHILE IN FALLOUT 3
STEAL THE DECLARATION OF INDIPENDENCE
YOU ARE A homosexual
shut up, esl.
>download mod that puts all bobblehead and skillbooks outside of 111 cave area
>download a mod that fixes level scaling/hp beyond level 20
>just go out and kill shit randomly
i had fun in 3
Any mods that let me join the Enclave in 3? Sick of being railroaded into helping the good guy brotherhood every playthrough.
you can use the virus and bombard the citadel if you want Enclave to win
why is this thread so full of butthurt toddgays
bethesda got cucked out of its own franchise, deal with it
Anon there are only like 12 morons being trolled who are butthurt, the rest are just trolling newbies
>its own franchise
Bethesda didn't make Fallout. It was created by Interplay, and they bought it. This image is more accurate to reality
Fallout 3 is the only succesor of fallout 1
obsidian never made fallout
READ HERE
THE REAL SOUL OF FALLOUT
>so to redeem myself
SIR, DO NOT REDEEM!!!!
>Chris Avellone hates Fallout 4 and 76
This shows how much he must dislike Bethesda for ruining his baby which he's tried to keep alive for years.
I wish New Vegas would get a sequel where the Strip grew to a full-sized city
we're stuck with bethesda fallout forever now it seems like.
>we're stuck with bethesda fallout forever now it seems like.
What the goddamn frick do you mean? How in the FRICK are you blaming Bethesda for Obsidian making a Vegas Strip with seven buildings? You think any amount of budget shortage could result in a Vegas Strip so small and fricking massively disappointing? Go make a fricking map, it takes less than a week for one person to design something like that. Obsidian just didn't fricking know what they were doing, they were trying to shove to much dogshit filler quests into the fricking game to bother making anything that looked worth exploring.
>hurr not enough buildings
go play skyrim or an assassins creed game or something
>Defending an empty desert without a shred of irony
That's you man, couldn't be me.
NV has most locations and quests of any FO game, if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, they didn't make a world. They made a desert and they put 1000 awful, valueless quests that are mostly speaking to Person A and then person B. No missions worth playing, no world worth exploring, linear two directional start, god what a trash heap
The new vegas quests are fun and they're interconnected with each other and lead you to new locations and you learn new things about the world and the Mojave and the people living there. Sorry your ass is so blasted but New Vegas will always be a beloved classic.
>The new vegas quests are fun
You can lie to me and you can lie to yourself, but we both know this is totally false deep down.
Yes, exploring a vault full of plant people is fun.
Cope, seethe, etc
Look I don't know what your game is, pal, but there is no way you felt dopamine release while holding W through the desert for nine hours and I politely request you stop trying to gaslight me into thinking you had fun
>I had fun with this game.
>NO STOP, YOU'RE TRYING TO GASLIGHT ME!!!
Get some sun, pal.
At first I was kidding but now I sense a nervous energy from you
You're just lying to fit in aren't you anon? It's okay, I did once too, over a decade ago. That was thirty years ago.
name a single quest in fallout 3 I can't take apart with logic with how badly it fricks up with lore or world building
just try me
name 1 that does frick up with the lore
the aliens which is just a random event gag in 1 (wanamingos aren't aliens) being hinted at starting the great war
FEV/radiation causing fern/fauna to die permanently
TENPENNY TOWER SINGLE HANDED BTFO EVERYTHING EVER WRITTEN BY OBDISIAN A REAL QUEST
WHAT GHOULS IN SPACE EAT?
>moron doenst understand even talking mutants are morons
I know you probably aren't here to discuss anything and just want to reeeeee at NV, but I always enjoy doing Come Fly With Me
Lots of stuff to kill, creepy pre-war facility to explore, an insane amount of shit to scavenge and sell, different routes you can take (kill the ghouls or help them with the nightkin, who you can also just kill or find the shipments, plan to blow the rocket up, different ways of obtaining the materials with toy rockets or heading to that radiated area with the geckos)
There's a few quests I hate though. Same with most games.
>obsidian didn't know what they were doing
well what the frick did you expect Black person? them to know the engine in and out despite never working with it? even the modders who know the engine better than bethesda themselves still have issues making all of vegas open
>all caps schizo disappears
>random angry ESL rambling appears
hmm....
I am not blaming bethesda for the strip being small autismo, I'm saying we'll never see a follow up where it's fully realized BECAUSE we're stuck with bethesda fallout now. Did you just completely miss the "sequel" bit of that post?
do to what?
obsidian gays has no soul
how is there controversy surrounding these games?
they're both pretty bad
What's the deal with the pajeet praising Fallout 3 anyway? I recall hearing about it being banned in India or some shit during it's release over it's depiction of brahmin.
It's a troll/joke. Everyone here already knows it, but it's funny to reply anyway.
no thread is allowed to exist without a resident autist because the board has fully pivoted away from talking about games in any amount of good faith
Some person that has nothing better going on in their life than trying to become an epic meme on Ganker
He's a Romanian gypsy, not a poo in loo
Report all ESL shitposts, and then ignore him
I fricking hate how charisma does basically nothing in this game and has no impact on speech checks. Just make it lower the requerements for speech checks a little, it's not so complicated.
>5% dmg and dr per cha for comps
i have handfuls of games where i shoot for 7-10 cha for characters
only time where i feel that cha is useless is LR and OWB. even then, theres mods to bring your buddies
Let's talk about Mr House
Among Fallout New Vegas fans there seems to be this misconception about his character. That he is some supposed all-knowing god's gift to humanity, who will steer civilization towards a better future. That is of course, a complete misunderstanding of his whole character profile.
Mr. House is a pre-war businessman with a resume full of deceit. His words alone deny his ambitions for anything beyond the Strip, which he wants to turn into a post-war Dubai. A sick, twisted joke of modern capitalism and mindless consumerism. It is purely coincidental that his saving of the strip from atomic bombs just happens to paint him as some kind of techno-jesus who saved the world from nuclear annihilation, when it is simply the first unavoidable step in his plan to becoming a merchant king. He is essentially a post-war Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos, someone who thinks they have a mind for politics just because they have considerate economic wealth.
He is completely full of himself and delusional about his abilities. He has to hire raider goons to do his bidding when his raison d'etre, the platinum chip, is on the line, which leads to him losing the chip due to him being a bad judge of character (Benny), and only managing to track it down because of pure coincidence when the courier, who should have been dead, actually wasn't, and goes to retrieve the chip for him. This is but a small, brief interaction but wholly exposes his character, and inability. He has no mind for politics due to his poor judge of character and judgement. He has no ability to look out for his own interests and needs to rely on 3rd party problem solvers who end up betraying him because of the aforementioned.
This then ends up becoming a salient point in exposing his folly as a man who so many look up to, but ending up being nothing more than a weak, desperate old man, grasping on to his long-gone days of glory and power.
moron who did nothing for 200 years
I always wondered how he managed to build an empire when the singular resource he had available to him (old world money) was now completely defunct. is this ever addressed or is this just a case of "don't worry about it"
he's a realtor
NCR OBTAIN 1 MILLION PEOPLE IN DESERT WITHOUT A SINGLE RESOURCE
SO WHY NOT?
>NCR OBTAIN 1 MILLION PEOPLE IN DESERT WITHOUT A SINGLE RESOURCE
I have no idea what you're trying to convey here.
no food in the desert
no water in the desert
NCR STILL WIN
>no water in the desert
there is plenty of water, they're stationed at a dam my guy. A Mr.Handy could purify enough water for everyone easily.
>no food
pic related
Yes the famous hoover dam of shady sand
>no water
There's literally a lake filled with water nearby. It's right behind Hoover Dam.
>using lake for agriculture
why commies are so dumb?
You stupid or something? That's quite literally what a lot of lake water is used for, especially when it comes for people living in desert cities. Are you a moron?
sure tard
people use lake water of intensive agriculture and not the colorado river one right?
is incredible how eat obsidian tad can eat
>is incredible how eat obsidian tad can eat
You talk like a complete moron.
>I always wondered how he managed to build an empire when the singular resource he had available to him (old world money)
You forget the technology. Mr. House has 10x the technological prowess of any other faction in New Vegas.
Consider this: the NCR has trouble getting a single solar power station to run, the Legion doesn't even attempt to use technology. Meanwhile, Mr. House has an army of custom-programmed cyborgs with rocket launchers.
It's like fighting stone age gorillas with 22th century weapons.
technology do not matter moron
NCR can beat anyone
2 and NV are the worst fallout
>NCR can beat anyone
Literally not. Except in the ending where the main character saves their ass, they lose most of their territory in New Vegas
He had an army of killbots and the only remain electricity source in the place.
Did you know that you can bargain with stuff other than money? Like, an army of murderbots under your absolute control, and the threat of violence they present, should your demands not be met?
He had robots, and weapons, the strip, and vault 21. Play the game maybe?
>200 DIFFERENT ENDINGS GOY
by playing the game duh
Tell me this: how are there hundreds of obscenely rich people wasting their money in casinos, when everyone outside of the tiny New Vegas strip is barely capable of surviving on a subsistence level? There's not a single business or corporation that's still properly functioning, except drug and weapon dealers.
Where does the money that gets wasted in New Vegas come from?
>Where does the money that gets wasted in New Vegas come from?
They are tourists. Like, the game explicitly tells you so.
Okay, but does that mean there are wealthy and safe settlements in other parts of the USA? If yes, then why aren't the few wealthy people in the Mojave moving there?
I didn't play Fallouts other than New Vegas, if that's showing already.
>Okay, but does that mean there are wealthy and safe settlements in other parts of the USA
That is the NCR, basically.
>If yes, then why aren't the few wealthy people in the Mojave moving there?
Issues with the law, can't take their land with them, better opportunities in the Mojave, don't want to pay taxes, pick your choice, honestly.
The whole territory west from mojave is NCR territory, midwest is populated. Control vaults actually work.
Almost everyone in new vegas is a tourist besides town settlers
the opposite happens to me
ncr randomly comes up on me while buying water
>Talon Company Mercs
>You're marked for death?
>Why?
>There is no why.
you are changing the rule of DC tard
why mafia kill good people?
FAKE AND GAY WEST COAST BOS IS ALIVE TARD
SKILLED + LOGANS LOOPHOLE IS THE FRICKING BEST SHIT EVER
I CUT OFF ONE TESTICLE BUT KEEPING THE OTHER OUT OF SOLIDARITY
I WANT A SLAVE WIFE BY THE LEGION NOHOMOBRO
I CAN FIX VERONICA
I KILL THE KHANS
I KILL EVERYONE IN DLC BECAUSE SAME EXP BUT FASTER
Never see a day without a New Vegas thread. Winning.
Who really cares about speech check Lanius?
It's for speedrunners and challengers anybody who played normally can beat him without issues
The Toddshills in this thread are ridiculous.
Bethesda lost. Get over it.
>Bethesda lost
Lost what? Literally though. The respect and admiration of the most transsexual gaming community that ever existed? People here on Ganker laughing at it being Indian? That's your definition of winning? Does Obsidian even exist anymore?
lost their creative freedom being bought by Microsoft
bethesda games are literally designed by a troony who is their lead writer
kys
>bethesda games are literally designed by a troony who is their lead writer
Well they must not be grooming as fast as they are over at Obsidian considering the fanbase, which is still one of the great joys of the internet, laughing at the New Vegas fanbase for it's baffling connection to the gay community
you do know there is practically no one left in obsidian that worked on new vegas now right? a good 50 out of the 70 people on the team moved on to other things and the majority of them were the lead devs/writers besides sawyer. I'd understand your reaction if people were talking about more recent Nu-obsidian garbage (Outer Worlds, Pillars of Eternity), but you're either baiting for (You)s or just genuinely moronic.
Just like Turtlerock and Back for Blood. This shit is very common in games, and if a studio you haven't heard of comes back ten or so years later, they aren't the same studio.
yeah, blatant false advertising by riding on someone else's name. many such cases that one aussiegay who bought the microprose name and made it start publishing strategy games again is pretty based however
the whole idea is that the NCR didn't have the engineering expertise to continue using those weapons. You need the infrastructure for manufacturing those components, or at the very least preserving them. The BoS is in a small enough scale that they don't experience the logistical demands that the NCR does, especially since the NCR is an expansionist organization while the BoS is reclusive and even at their isolationism they constantly need to send out missions to resupply their limited and otherwise finite resources
THE FRICK?
ENGENIERS CAN GO TO CONGO AND TAKE THE RESOURCE NEEDED FOR THAT?
SCHOOL, PROJECTS, MILITARY SECRETS, RESOURCE, ETC..
NOT A SINGLE FARMER CAN AFFORD THAT
what the frick are you screeching about you Black person?
If the robots at REPCONN headquarters can maintain themselves in the middle of the desert for 200 years I would assume that the technology in fallout is resilient enough to not need constant maintenance.
to be fair the NCR presence in NV are mostly poorly supplied rookies, the best troops and best weapons are likely being used to guard the territory at the behest of the cow barons.
STILL WIN NO MATTER WHAT
enjoy
ONESHOT EVEERYONE IN THE RAILROADS PART YOU SKIP
I had fun with both Fallout 3 and New Vegas, even if I liked NV more.
But can we all at least agree that Fallout 4 is the worst one?
hello my beautiful darling sirs. i love the megaton and libetery prime. who else think fallout 5 should be india?
ME! GOOD MORNING SIRS!
Favourite companion Ganker? From 3 or NV
For me it's Boone and his EAT THIS / ALL MINE kill cam jumpscares
boone is great but if you get low rep with ncr hes a b***h
I perfer cass despite not even trying to be a drunk
For me it's Cass. She's cute, I like her different location and NPC comments, her companion dialogue is fun, massacring the Van Graffs is always good, and two people with Shotgun Surgeon are better than one.
cass's VA is a literal who with no other credits to her name but somehow got the perfect mix of playful sarcasm and care in every line and no one appreciates it because they only remember long dick Johnson or couldn't recruit her to start with
>point gun at her
>'don't MAKE me take that away from you~'
my HEART
God fricking dammit troony just kill your fricking self
are you okay anon
He sounds gayer than a French tuba player in Delaware
Your heart? You're fricking swooning? I don't think so pal I think you're a fricking legit gay and you need to keep an eye on that because you're prime to start slipping up with that pussified attitude
lol it's the anon who has tantrums when people use the word 'cute'
go dig a hole, hank hill
Don't try to defend yourself, this is for your own health and benefit. I'm making myself out to be a bad guy to make sure that you never do this
>point gun at her
>'don't MAKE me take that away from you~'
my HEART
Again.
i'm gonna keep doing it
How did you get troony from him liking the way Cass's voice actress sounds?
Clover was pretty cute, but 3 companions really suffer from having low amounts of dialogue and no quests.
Raul is probably my favorite overall, cool dude.
3: Jericho
NV: Raul or ED-E
Always get Vaquero Raul ending. All is well.
i haven't played NV since the year it released so my memory is foggy but these autistic threads make me want to go back and play it again. these threads make it seem like there is way more to do than what I remember. is the dlc good too?
old world blues and dead money are great, lonesome road is mediocre and honest hearts is kinda shit but joshua graham's in it
can't say much for the dlc but I loved honest hearts but if you do play it again I suggest going out and modding it to the max you can use viva new vegas as a base guide and change some of the mods out but do look at the moids to avoid otherwise you can get a pretty good modded experience as long as you don't follow it to 100 percent and change some stuff out
also dusty distance redone is a must
DLC is a mixed bag. you either love em or hate em it seems like, if you're going to play follow this https://vivanewvegas.github.io/ guide for modding, includes all sorts of essential mods to make the experience not feel like total shit.
I replayed it some months ago, it's still holds up and is one of the best RPG made, just get some mods that remove your typical bethesda jank and you can even make it into a servicable shooting game.
hitman animations are a must
not to mention now he includes fallout classic weapons
Sprinting is "must have" at least for me when you're replying it for the nth time. Frick walking through gomorrah 10 times for that slave prostitute quest for example.
Yeah sprinting is a must have
I couldn't bother to actually play at the base walking speed half the game
shit is tediously slow
what sprint mod is that? the one I use just holsters my weapon
Not him but I use https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66666 you can even adjust it in mcm
good looks anon
this is my modlist
t. webm poster
>Yellow Goodbye
very based list.
You can get some better sprint animations from this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74839 that don't mess up things like reloading. I like it.
the sprint mod i had worked fine, you can adjust things like weapon holstering and AP cost iirc
the sprint you had works fine, yeah, I use the same one.
the one I posted just slightly expands upon it. it's not a replacer. just an enhancer.
I just cant play with sprinting, I prefer my games where my character has the same abilities as the other NPCs. So no sprinting.
Besides, I prefer more relaxing playthroughs where I can see the scenery and have a comfy playthroughs. Sure its no RDR2 but with some graphic mods it can be tolerable enough to enjoy a dangerous trip from Red Rock to the Powder Ganger Vault.
UNFINISHED,BUGGED SJW PROPAGANDA GOOD RPG?
YOU JUST WANT A VISUAL NOVEL NOTHING MORE
Dead Money is great if you're endgame kind of level. You go from being invincible anti material rifle killing machine in power armour / ranger armour with millions of food / water / stimpaks / drugs... Into naked and afraid with no supplies.
It's pretty refreshing to have to really fight to survive again, kind of like when you first start the game (but worse)
>these threads make it seem like there is way more to do than what I remember.
Of course they do, these threads are the single most dishonest place on the internet. Not even a Jezebel article has such malicious falsehood stitched into every fabrication and half truth. Theres been a gay forum war going on for 13 years, do not believe a single thing you read in this thread, I cannot stress this enough. Don't even listen to me, discover for yourself firsthand the contrast between social contract and reality that is this game versus the way people overrate it
You're underestimating just how much some people love the Fallout universe and interacting with its world building. For this NV is the superior 3D Fallout, and I think what makes most people bounce off is the fact they're not really fans of either CRPGs or the Fallout universe. For fans of the former, NV is still imo one of the better examples of how a classic RPG would look in a modern time and for fans of both CRPGs and Classic Fallout it's a love letter to both.
I've tried to get back into it but I always get bored after a few hours. There is no difficulty, no item scarcity and extremely simplistic RPG elements.
I remember when oblivion was considered extremely simple and boring. Now it's simpler bastard Offspring is considered deep and a story about grumpy man fighting over a piece of land is considered interesting.
I'd rather go back and play Morrowind or fallout 2 before playing any more of this dummed down abomination.
Hot take: Fallout 3 and New Vegas are both objectively shit and downgrades from Oblivion, which itself isn't very good.
hotter take: every video game is objectively dogshit in one way or another
dunno, how do 3tards defend
>[Science 95%] mr. president, have a nice day my man
and before you say "hurr in fallout you had to prove to the master that his plans would fail", maybe that would have been a point had new vegas gotten more dev time or maybe it wouldn't have been. we can never know, but since most of the anti new vegas shitposting seems to come from the same enclave-obsessed indian, they probably never even considered it. frick you all.
Seething
EDEN LOST
AUTUMN REVOLTED AND YOU WERE HIS ONLY HOPE
YOU REFUSE TO HELP EDEN?
EDEN HAS NO MORE CHANGE TO RELIZE HIS PLAN
NOT BRO THE EAST
>dunno, how do 3tards defend
>[Science 95%] mr. president, have a nice day my man
Probably because that's one of the most famous pulp sci fi tropes that ever existed is defeating a robot with logic and the image of Captain Kirk jerking his body around to outwit a machine, is laser tattooed in the brain of everyone who worked on the game, and Fallout is a series that loves pop culture sci fi where it fits perfectly and you're just a zoomer homosexual repeating something he heard a slightly older zoomer homosexual say
Am I getting close?
Very strange to see Fallout 3 gays whine about zoomers when it and Oblivion are like two of the most iconic zoomer childhood games ever.
Also frick you. If that's really the case I don't ever wanna see 3tards ever whine about pop culture shit in New Vegas ever the frick again.
How difficult is it to get into making mods? Always wanted to try my hand at making a custom companion like Niner or Delilah but I see the GECK and I have no clue what is going on.
Every rpg with a CHA/Speech stat is like this because it’s written by a stupid fricking nerd
>I am irrational person with violent intent, here is my moronic reason with clear logical faults
>aha I am the high CHA character, I will point out your obvious faults!
>whoa you’re right time to kill myself lmfao
Irl trying to talk to a murderous thug just ends with you dead, so you might as well embrace the moronation of it.
Will you fricking homos quit responding to the gays pretending to be ESLs please.
This shit hasn't been funny in months.
I love how artificial this whole NV hate shit on this site is and can tell how it's just 1 dedicated schizo. As soon as it stops spamming thread goes back to normal and people who like NV just come out of the woodwork and praise the game in good faith like it's always been kek
>Me: "Today, I will kill an NPC in Fallout 3."
>Fallout 3: "Wait no, you can't do that." *revives them like they're Jesus Christ waking up from a 3 day nap*
I wish Cross Crit Gore was in FNV. I never liked ash and goo piles.
No one here played Fallout 1 so i rest my case, Bethesda took once a cool franchise and turned it to shit, how is that Fallout 76 going? enjoying the new season pass?
I played them all except tactics and BoS.
Fallout 1 kinda feels barren and bafly needs content, Fallout 2 is very good until you get to San Francisco it becomes dogshit, and idk how they could ruin a super premise and idea like Chienese descendants in SF, by adding the most boring cliches from 70' action kung fu movies and scientology knock offs. Could've been very great with a whole new way of perspective for the great war or an interesting localisation filled with mercenaries and Shi fighters. Could've been cool but they made it so dog shit omfg.
>Fallout 1 kinda feels barren and bafly needs content
nah the game is the most replayable in the series alongside Fallout 2, took me 30 hours the first time and each playthrough will at least take 15 hours to finish, a lot of build variety to start each time.
I dont agree, Fallout 1 has little replay value. Especially in an evil playthrough. You cant really build a unique character since all .233 pistol, Plasma Rifle and Rocket Launcher are the objectively best weapons for their respective class and once you get a Power Armor/Tesla Armor you cant be killed by Mutants.
Fallout 2 did far better things in that regard with much more choice, quests and faction to play with.
>game is bad because i can't repay it 200 times in a raw since useless dialogue who change nothing missing
Black person I never said it was bad, its just a very short game with little to do or with interesting choice. The atmosphere, factions and world is masterclass, but its not the best C-RPG that everyone say it is. That title belongs to Arcanum.
Fallout 1 is one of the best 2d RPG ever made RPG is not a table game with the goal of being always replayble
Other games did a better job than F1 when it comes to that, Fallout 2, Arcanum, Baldur's Gate 2 and Age of Decadence at the top of my head.
Reality is that Fallout 1 layed the ground works for better top downs RPG and what one can do with a market saturated with Sword and Sorcery stuff.
>I dont agree, Fallout 1 has little replay value
top of my head
>sniper build
>melee build
>pacifist silver tongue build
>not including all the traits, skills, perks and stats that you can toy around with.
c'mon now.
>Sniper Build
>Melee Build
All combat builds, the playthrough wont change much.
>Pacifist
One out of two ways to play the game actually.
>All the traits
Excluding Jinxed, non of the traits really change much. You can play as a vampire in Fallout 1. Its fun until you notice nearly all the quests cant be done at night.
Also they arent got that many good unique perks compared to NV or 2 so not a very convincing argument.
>how do new vegans defend this?
we don't have to defend anything, we're not communists.
All bethesda know about writing Fallout story is basically just
>BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL IS LE GOOD
>POWER ARMOUR IS LE COOL
I make the case that, considering what the Republic did to the Brotherhood back west, Lyons had a point on changing how things worked in his chapter.
Of course, all of that's for naught thanks to that bastard Maxson.
Fallout 3 is obviously a flawed game and pales in comparison to the other Fallout games and even Fallout 4 in some aspects, but I still find it fun, though it's partially because it was my introduction to the series. The Capital Wasteland really does feel desolate and just walking around in the literal wasteland and fending off raiders is enjoyable in of itself. Point Lookout and the Pitt were great experiences too, probably the highlight for the whole game for me, really. The stupidly high resistance of the tribals and the swampfolk is still stupidly high though.
DEFEND THIS NEW VEGAS PEDOS
Any mod that makes characters not look like shit?
New Vegas Redesigned 2 or 3 will probably be your best bet. BNW is essentially version 4 and adds new voices but I don’t think it affects as much characters as 2 or 3.
FCO is honestly alright and there’s people making patches for custom companions with it, and while a lot of people complain about pink face bugs I’ve personally never had an issue with it. Definitely not everyone’s cup of tea though.
Dragbody has some neat looking overhauls, but for most of his stuff the eyes are actually considered ‘items’ and not actual parts of the head, so they don’t move and it can look a bit weird. Think he’s moving away from that with his most recent stuff, though, and the armor he does looks neat.
I think most players that aren't trying to scrounge up some form of cope can agree that Lanius is a let down. For him to be convinced of the West's weaknesses becoming his own, then you should have actually had to do shit like complete the quests where you see how stretched thin the NCR is trying to hold Nevada or attest to how Hanlon considered the region indefensible in the long run, let alone something like going on to conquer Arizona. That this is something that's happening despite having the advantage in numbers over the Legion, so no matter the prowess of their soldiers, they would be physically stretched way too thin to hold both. Then if Lanius said something like
>while I detest the skulkery of Vulpes, we can easily place key members to control regions
You could retort with having defused the situation with the Omertas, Great Khans, or even just their sabotage at Camp McCarran. Like some people would probably try to cite "muh deadlines" but this is a critical part of the game, and it is a flaw they didn't make it enough of a priority to add in some simple quest step checks to the speech options
Ulysses is ultimately a bit better, since you actually have to pick the right dialogue options to convince him or he'll get pissed even with 100 speech
I don't mind that people want to like fallout 3 over NV. Don't agree with it, but whatever.
What I don't get is how sweaty you guys are about a single player rpg.
To get to this dialogue, you need to have maxed out speech. While any Fallout player would know that speech is important, there are only 5 or 6 significant speech options that require a skill over 80.
The only reason this seems easy is becasue we all know there is a 100 speech option there. A new player might not know because you were never asked for 100 speech before.
I'm replaying NV on Very hard and I might have died 4 times in 60 hours, mostly due to my own explosives. I know where to get the best weapons, where enemies spawn etc. Criticizing the game for being easy would be stupid. I just played it too much.
In Fallout 1 you can get the best ending by having a holotape.
is this your first bait OP you've seen
While been baity, there's some common criticism hidden beneath it.
It taunts me, I can't help it bros
I'm starting all over on my new vegas playthrough since I fricked it up and did a no no
so far I like the mods I'm install over the ones I had before
ysi and darn look so much better than vanilla ui plus and actually makes the menus more tolerable
FO3 has enemy scaling too dumbfrick moron. It's why it's a rule of thumb not to EVER enable broken steel in your main save until you're at the very last stage of the MQ because of feral ghoul reavers that tank mini nukes due to fricked up lvl scaling
Should I install anniversary anim packs or seasons instead? or is there any other suggestions?
Personally, I like using Hitman's season mods but I like to disable his laser weapon animations and replace them with rockbiter's animations.
Also pick up rockbiter's clean animations, you can use them both and clean animations largely just affects weapons added by mods.
I like exploring nv.
I do not like exploring in fallout 3.
too easy, not enough reason to explore.
just wacky teddy bears and plungers on mannequins everywhere.
lol
I'll just use his seasons then and install his extra mods that I like in anniversaery then
I at least have a good excuse now to restart over again since he started doing classic weapons
Yeah those classic weapon animations he made are great.
I don't really like using Webb's huge pack on its own so I installed just the weapons from that pack I liked individually, grabbed hitman's animations he made for them and just tweaked the .json file to affect those versions of the weapons.
It's crazy how much more enjoyable that wattz pistol from 2008 is when it has actually good animations.
I have quest markers disabled in the tweaks mod.
like the classic fallouts.
like a real rpg.
Elijah is a real kino character and is right about quest markers being shit.
lol
QUICK, WHAT'S THE BEST ENB?
don't enbs still break imods? The bets one is one that doesn't break anything in the game, so none.
Honestly though childhood is idolizing them, adulthood is realising that using vanilla and a mod that slightly tweaks the colour correction is the way to go.
we? it's just you against all the other people in the thread.
did you run out of things to attack me for? did finally realise that I'm right?
is just a real Ganker user against horders of redditors
fair fight
yes I am the real Ganker user, you are the redditor shitposter.
yeah enb breaks mods but also the game itself as well which the why you should just install stuff like yellow good bye or desert natural weathers instead
exactly this. yellow goodbye or desert natural weathers are the best modern way to go. I use the latter with climate control. it's fantastic.
I didn't mean mods, I said imods. imods are things like the screen effects in the vanilla games like fade to blacks used in various cutscenes across both Fallout 3 and NV. when they don't work with things like enbs it makes lots of things jarringly ugly like Fallout 3's birth intro, the Broken Steel intro and things like Dead Money's intro.
ENBs are great for new vegas and skyrim but the performance hit isnt worth it in F4
>people are still trying to argue with the pajeet
lol
paj33t
WHO is gonna turn on the water filter tho? let's have a war over it
Rushed development cycle, probably. Whole ending feels like it would have been a lot more, such a grand finale reduced to just a minor set piece seems weird. Maybe could have been a proper dialogue tree had they not put out a KotOR2-like game.
You know that isn't the only line of dialog in the Legion showdown finale? Hell you still have to fight to get to this point. Convenient shitposters forget that.
Exactly, it's no different from how you can convince Autumn to stand down in Fallout 3.
3 was more fun
>Ganker used to almost unanimously laud this game
>threads full of great, knowledgeable discussion almost every time you saw one
>now thanks to a few Fallout 3 Pajeets and troony obsessed /misc/cels who spend dozens of hours a week searching "[game name} + troony" to compose epic screenshots every NV thread is a dumpster fire
NewBlack folk leave.
Trolls can't shit on anything if you don't feed them. Too bad nu-Ganker is moronic.
Not the best, still miles ahead of 3's version of this dialogue
>have a nice day my man
Why would I do that?
>You're an abortion of science, you need to die*
Ok, that checks out.
*Not paraphrasing for comedic effect that's the entire reason given for the hundred year old supercomputer to delete system 32.
>khans finally get a taste of their own medicine
>NOOOOO you can't just raid us back only we can slaughter women and children its not fair SAVE US PAPA
New Vegas Redesigned 2 Revised or Character Expansions Revised?
I always kill the khans at boulder city and kill the hostages also
gorgeous trips. I hate how easy it is to but a single bullet in an ally who wanted to melee fight, only for them to start attacking you or running when the fight is over and you're supposed to be getting your quest rewards
>negotiate for khan release
>they tell me the next quest step for finding benny
>run out and immediately shoot lt monroe
>ambush all ncr by going back in the load zone and abuse VATS
>kill the hostages
>kill all the khans afterwards too
LOCK ME UP
OXHORN YOU ARE A HUGE homosexual
FALLOUT 3 IS TRASH