How do we feel about invasive anti-cheat software? League of Legends is adhering to this latest craze, overall good or bad for the community?
How do we feel about invasive anti-cheat software?
How do we feel about invasive anti-cheat software? League of Legends is adhering to this latest craze, overall good or bad for the community?
i dont give a FR*CK about league of legends
>I don't give a FRACK about league of legends
burgerfats are so obsessed with oil it's insane
We're all doomed to proxy battles anon.
I'm thinking of uninstalling League because of it but I'm not sure I have any sensitive data on my PC. All I use it for is gaming and browsing this website but I did log in to my YT account a couple of times before.
gotta be invasive for any hope of working
at least it works. look at fricking csgo
>csgo
Virtually no cheaters, what's your point?
>at least it works
Whatever happened to that anti-cheating AI bullshit company that had a 99% success rate?
turns out people tell lies
never would've guessed
One of the chinese gacha game you all are playing already did the same thing and I don't see anyone care.
I'm gonna uninstall LoL and get a cheap 20€ SSD just to boot into a different windows to play LoL.
>But they already have your data!
That's not a reason for me to give RING 0 control over my computer AT ALL TIMES
>You must be hiding something!
No, I don't want Tencent to have a service at KERNEL LEVEL on my computer AT ALL TIMES
>It's for the greater good!
I don't care about cheating in chinese slop games enough to, again, give Tencent permission to install a rootkit that is ALWAYS ON AT ALL TIMES
>It doesn't gather any data
Said the data merchant
Vanguard bypasses all that
Vanguard can already read your thoughts, no point on doing all this
I simply do not feel like installing Vanguard on my daily windows !! Ughhhhhh I knowww right?
Do it or else >:(
I'm losing my shit over GankerBlack folk and they complete lack of intelligence.
You think that switching a program to another drive will magically nullify all the things it does?
Yes. Explain how Vanguard will read info on hard drives that aren't connected to the motherboard at that time
Tencent uhh finds a way
Wait a second, maybe my brain refused to understand the moronic shit you said.
You're telling me that you will buy another drive, install windows on it, install valorant and remove all other drives whenever you feel like playing?
You might just be MORE moronic than I thought, just in a different way.
How often do you think I play Riot products? Do you think I use them daily or only on the weekend when my friends are on? How hard do you think it is to handle 2 SATA connectors and boot into another win10? Does it take less than 1 minute to do?
>how often
Often enough to feel compelled to buy another drive and manage """sata(lol) cables""" whenever you want to play it, plus all the inconvenience that using two unsynced (you wouldn't want your information leaking would you) OSs brings. Such as being only able to log in into places you don't mind being shared to le ebil boogey chinaman personally snooping into your files, having to set up everything back again and the myriad of other small annoyances just to play a fricking copy of csgo or whatever.
I can't believe you're still replying instead of reflecting on how much of a moronic fricking idea that is.
So, 1 minute, got you. Plus I get a cheap SSD I can use to experiment when my friends stop playing lol (not valorant btw). You're trying way too hard to be right, by the way. Replying to you is a pleasure at this point. You type like you're possessed by emotion
Nah I honestly don't care, its just that this is the stupidest idea I've seen this week so it just caught be by surprise. It's pretty rare to see someone so oblivious to the fricking dissonance between claiming "i don't even play the game bruh" and "buying new gear, setting up a another windows installation, rebooting then plugging/unplugging every time you want to play".
I don't know this might just be my opinion but if I didn't play a game that often and would need to do all that shit just to feel some peace of mind I would rather not play it at all. I might be the crazy one thoughever.
Do you consider 20 euro to be a lot of money?
Do you consider windows 10 to be hard to install?
Yes or no answers will do
No, but that's not the issue.
Well, if you still can't see the issue more power to you my man, can't wait to see your dedicated boot device for websites containing javascript, you wont BELIEVE the shit they can do!!!!!
Very nice deflection!
>he thinks I will browse the web with it
Did I not convey that the whole point of the 20€ SSD will be to play chinese slop and nothing else? Did you think I would browse the web or go on Discord while using it?
I can't believe you're doubling down hahahahah, so you won't use NOTHING else aside from "chinese slop"? I thought you were playing with your friends? You won't communicate with them at all?
I beg you, please reread our conversation and at least try to reflect on it, it sounds so moronic it's actually not even funny.
I can't wait to see how startled you get when I tell you I already use Discord on my phone 50% of the time. Will you suffer a stroke?
Huh? But what about the little israelites watching you through your phone camera? Do you also cover it? What about the mic? Didn't you know google actively hires indians to hear every single mic feed so they can better sell your information?
OH WAIT! You bought ANOTHER phone just so you can use discord and those other information-stealing services right? Ah anon, you're so damn smart!
You're getting emotional again, your posts are getting desperate
I will buy a 20€ SSD on Amazon and install a fresh windows 10 to play LoL in as soon as it requires vanguard. This makes you emotional and it's a great show
Sorry man it's just way too funny, can't wait to see your /fwt/ post asking on how to "debloat" and "remove the spyware" from the 2015 ltsb windows copy you downloaded from 4shared.
Are you the same moronic anon I'm talking to? If so I'll actually concede.
If you're schizophrenic enough to do all that then sure, I don't think you'll be bothered by swapping OSs every time you want to play something.
If I could at least give a single piece of advice would be either "get help" or "move to linux", I'm fine with whichever you find more appropriate.
Making shit up to make yourself feel right. Hilarious. You're obsessive. The other reply is a different person btw. I doubt he will reply back
>obsessive
Pretty rich when coming from someone using all commodities of this century yet stupidly refusing to acknowledge that his data is getting harvested no matter how much he struggles.
Good luck on your adventure anon, I'm sure that arbitrarily deciding on this week's boogeyman and all the hijinks you'll need to do in order to avoid "giving them your information" will consume a lot of your time.
Well, I sure hope you're replying to me while using a 2007 corebooted thinkpad using trisquel and a javascript-free browser (bypassing the captcha by using a pass paid with laundered bitcoin so you cannot be tracked) because if not, you've already failed at the first step.
You don't want an NSA backdoored cpu do you?
Not him, but there's a big difference between 200 companies having 1 piece of information about you each, and 1 company having 200 pieces of information about you, night and day when it comes to tracking and profiling. Just because you can't prevent all harvest doesn't mean you should Livestream your masturbation sessions in Facebook or that you can't reduce your footprint
>Entire paragraph
>Reaching into NSA backdooring CPUs arguments now
You're trying like 100x too hard to feel like you're right. You put the obsession on yourself. At any point, you could be like "let that moron do whatever he wants", but you don't, you feel compelled to reply. You want me to be wrong! That's mostly what it is. You want me to back out of the argument at some point which I'm not going to, so how much time do you want to waste?
homie it's a fricking saturday, there's at least 4 different people calling you a moron yet you refuse to even reflect on your own stupidity.
I find your attachment to the word "obsessive" really cute since you're the one willing to go to such lengths just to play a fricking video game you don't even like.
>a video game you don't even like?
Do you plan on continuing your projection? Do you wanna just type in whatever you want at this point? Also you're ready to be here until the thread gets deleted? I'll check back in every 20 minutes or so, we're going to play LoL now.
>I'll do all this moronic shit to play fricking league of legends of all things, that will show you!
Not even that guy, but I implore you to reconsider.
>All this moronic shit
>Buy a 20€ SSD
>Spend 60 minutes installing windows 10 + lol
Where does the "all" come from? Have you never had more than 1 OS set up at once?
I think you're missing the forest for the trees, anon. More power to you if you really want to go trough all those hoops just to play lol of all things for an hour every week.
Man, this is the first thread I see today and we're off to a good start. Gotta love this board sometimes.
>All those hoops
Meaning buying an SSD and installing windows on it. It's also three to four hours of LoL mostly. I don't understand why this is so mindblowing to you
Also not that guy but lmao at buying more hardware and going through a second OS just to play League of all things. Unironically get some help
>more hardware
A 20€ SSD
>Going through a second OS
Yes. How is this a colossal task
I just leave my phone in the other room and my desktop doesn't have any mics or cameras. The only mic other than my phone is my headset, and again, I just leave that in my box of peripherals not hooked up for the 95 percent of the time I'm not using it.
You use dis-ACK!
In that case, my question would be why the frick would you bother doing all that for a game you barely play? Just uninstall and play one of the fifty other nearly mobas.
But my friends play lol, I want to play with them.
>all that
"All that" means 20€ and 60 minutes to install windows 10 + LoL while I watch TV?
Yeah. That and having to switch machines every time you want to play. Seems fricking insane for a video game.
>Hey guys, wanna go watch The Simpsons? Wait here, I'll go get the other TV to hook up so we can watch it.
>Switch machines
A.K.A. plugging 1 (one) (uno) sata connector 2 minutes before my friends jump on, unplug it when I'm done. How difficult do you think this is to do? Do you have this weird belief that switching windows 10 installs is this colossal task that takes forever?
I'm saying it's far more effort than anyone should put in for a single stupid video game. The fact that you even conceived of and are seriously considering something like this instead of just not playing the game comes off as an addiction.
An addiction that takes place only on the weekends from 3pm to 6pm and then we go play something else. Uh-huh.
>3pm to 6pm on weekends free meaning he's likely single and childless
Nevermind, you're a fricking loser hahahaha
That's it? That's the best reply you've got?
>At all times
Doesn't it only tun become an active process when you're actually running LoL? You don't keep the launcher up 24/7 do you?
I recall it being mandatory for vanguard to run as a service from start to finish at all times. If this information is wrong and it only runs while the game is open, it would still be 2000% too invasive.
>I don't want 15 year old timmy to run scripts in league, so I will give Tencent full access over my computer while I play to stop it!
Yeah, no. Kernel level is kernel level, doesn't matter if it's for 1 minute or 20 or 2 hours.
>Doesn't it only tun become an active process when you're actually running LoL?
No. It is active 24/7 and if you want to close the process you have to restart your pc after
install linux and do vfio passthrough to a windows virtual machine
it's an absolute pain in the ass to set up, but it's nice
I'll bet a penny they'll detect winodws running in a VM.
I can bypass battleye just fine, but I assume riots thing should be way more pozzed
You're an addict. Quit now.
Right now I'm playing Banished, AoE2, baldur's gate 3, FTL and age of wonders 2. On the weekends, I play LoL and TFT with my friends. I really enjoy playing those with friends
If i have windows on one disk and Linux on other, the anticheat will be restricted to the disk where windows is or it can acess all my disks?
It can access everything but if you use full disk encryption like every other normal troonix pepo whatever they access would be useless to them.
What kind of data does Vanguard want, can it see what I post here?
It can read your thoughts, anon
>inb4 no it can't
Yes it can
Posts like this only make people more suspicious of Vanguard.
why call it hacker and not cheater?
I don't play shitty games to begin with, specially chink ones so I don't care op
>Cheating on Valorant has existed since beta
So the anticheat doesn't even rid the game of cheats completely
>You need a service running at all times!
Even when I am not playing the game?
>Yes!!!!
But Tencent has a history of censoring and probing the chinese population through apps like WeChat and giving the info to the CCP
>Who cares lol take your meds
I think i'll pass
>Even when I am not playing the game?
I remember that you can pretty much turn it on when you want to play the game and turn it off when you don't
the annoying part is to restart, but if you don't have a nvme in this day and age...
>trying to make sense out of a "feature" that gives me homework and can cause major collateral damage for a potential benefit I will likely never reap
It's insane and a sham. Just because it exists in police states where its citizens are brought up being taught not to offend current president man (China) and in games in which half of their playerbase are the nost subservient of sexes (women) (Valorant), doesn't mean it should exist anywhere else. I want my freedom rights to be upheld.
It is funny how tencent lives rent free in anons heads when they are actively at odds with ccp at large and do their best to funnel assets out of mainland china.
>are actively at odds with ccp
explain why tencent should not be considered a branch of the CCP
on Valorant has existed since beta
>So the anticheat doesn't even rid the game of cheats completely
This is the main problem for me.
Instantly delete any games that add this garbage, just like with denuvo.
Good. Everyone gotta be on the same level.
>MOBA
Nothing of value lost.
>dozens of other games use Kernel level anticheat
>nobody cares
>LoL does it
>NOOOOO MY DATA!!!!!!
Is this some kind of weird virtue signalling?
None of the games I play use Kernel level anything, but even if I did, I would rather have the anticheat not be developed by people working for a 100% Tencent owned company
I don't play one game with kernel anti cheat, only have this shitty client installed for teamfight tactics, and shall uninstall when it's time for vanguard to be implemented.
Wow you guys are so cool and epic and privacy minded! Also I sure hope none of you play any of these games
https://www.easy.ac/en-us/partners/
No, I don't play any game with a required easy anticheat service. Next question
I can assure you that at least 80% of the board has never had any interest in any of that GAAS dogshit.
Oh good, another Spyware program to install on my computer!
I already have the chink store installed, is this any worse?
Yes. Giving any service kernel-level permissions is not justifiable. That's what a rootkit does. You'ren basically installing a rootkit operated by Tencent employees and trusting them when they say it doesn't collect data. Also it's an open door for anybody that sucessfully exploits vanguard.
and how many times has having a commercial anticheat installed on your device for the purposes of gaming caused any sort of mass data breach or hack?
Welp, I guess this is how I uninstall League. I doubt they'll backpedal on this.
MUH CHINKS MUH CHINKS MUH CHINKS SAVE ME MISCEGENATION MANNNN
>uses google services all day long
>in her ios/android phone
>or her pc
>while backing up her dick pictures into the cloud
I’m gonna start shilling Tencent
They don't support my OS so I don't play any games that have them.
The amount of cheaters has to be ridiculously small already for a MOBA so this feels like a waste of resources.
>The amount of cheaters has to be ridiculously small already for a MOBA
Anon.............
I've always felt that firewalling off everything east of Germany would be about as effective any draconian technical solution.
Do not say that you weren't warned
robot unicorn attackbros... we were... forgotten....
Any creative ideas and or projects that have ever graced your PC are forfeit.
With this, many good indie projects will fall victim along side AAA studios.
You've once again been warned.
>B-but everyone steals!
ngmi
>arcade sona/skinline release
aaaa take me back
All artists steal, the one who did Gnar was just too stupid to be subtle.
What a fricking schizo moronic images. You could find similarities to any fricking character designed for videogames. Because yes, in fantasy everything has been made already
>In fantasy, everything has been made already
Low IQ, unimaginative minds actually "think" like this.
No matter how much you cope. Any "original and interesting" idea you think you just might have thought is probably already written in some obscure fantasy book
>He backpedals from certainty to probability
Good. Know your place, maggot of low confidence.
Imagine being so desperate to focus on how I phrase the matter and deliberately ignoring the actual point. I say possibility because they're thousands of hundred of books written that never get to the mainstream eye or even never get published. So unless I have read them all and have proof that what you just did was made before, it will stay just as a high possibility.
That's just speaking about ideas. Because to that is where you deviated the conversation about.
If we speak about similarities, then yes, no matter what you "create" there will always be people who point out to you other works that are similar to what you just did. Even if not exactly the same (which is what happens in the images I first quoted)
Stay mad Riot shill.
A thief believes everybody steals.
I personally guzzle gasoline from the gas station then spit it back into my car's tank, can't risk getting some chink gasoline backdoor into my car.
>ingesting chink backdoored gas
NGMI, I just use a microscope and inspect the molecules so I can avoid any chinese-made nanobots (american-made ones are fine though).
I agree with you, but read the first thing I said in that post. Do you really think someone that stubbornly refuses to drop a game "he doesn't even play that often" is going to commit himself to diversify the services he uses?
I could bet on the fact that he probably uses windows, google search, youtube and a single gmail account for everything he does.
He's the classic case of Ganker induced paranoia that happens when someone technologically literate encounters a schizophrenic image macro saying that the FBI has your anus' fingerprint through your phone's camera then metaphorically puts the cart before horse when it comes to digital security.
Will never understand the bugman mentality of cheating at a recreational hobby.
playing League is like training for and competing at the Olympics to chinks
This is Valorant not league you frickin morons
The same software has been announced to be coming to league in about 2 weeks
dumbass
i had vanguard on my computer for a long time. so far i still have my money and family so not sure what the concern is. dont think the chinese would care if i looked up beastiality porn every once in a while
nah bro, foreign actors like China are a way bigger thread to the average american citizen than the national agencies caught time and time again sifting through personal information for decades behind the flimsy justification of protecting its people from "terrorism".
you wouldn't want a CHINESE to have your information, would you? imagine the things he could do
like uhhh... or uhh....
yeah, thought so, i would much rather give all my information to my own government so they can both profile me, one-sidedly judge whether i'm a threat or not then enact on that judgment.
the sad thing is that this shit is everywhere and nobody realizes let alone cares
Which other games have it?
I don't cheat so I don't care.
Get fricked.
>just frick me in the ass, I'm not gay so I don't care
hot
>Installing a rootkit is acceptable if it's from a trusted source
Very good, riot is so based for that. Cheaters keep seething cause they can't break it always makes my day
Do you really think cheaters in LoL are that big of a problem? Maybe I've been lucky but I'm diamond and I've seen 2 scripters in almost 300 ranked games. This seems like an excuse to finally install this shit in everyone's computer.
I don't play lol but vanguard coming to league is only a good thing since it works fantastic in valorant
They fear him
This dude and his team are a godsend, so grateful for a team who FINALLY takes the fricking cheating problem seriously.
By treating the game like its super serious locked down jail cell? It's not that deep. If you take the game this seriously that you praise rootkit level anti-cheat you need to touch grass.
It's all fun and games until you get a false positive and immediately banned.
Welp it is time to finally hang up the hobby, thanks for all the memories lol gays
I don't think there are enough cheaters to warrant this. I have 20k+ games in LoL in total and the most I come across sometimes are script kiddies but it's so apparent that the moment you realize they become extremely predictable and easier to play against (because obviously a computer is more predictable than a human)
I can't think of other ways to cheat except scripts and maphacks but even maphack doesn't give you that much advantage to make it worth the risk
I was thinking the same until I made a new account on NA last month when I was visiting my family and wanted to play some quick games without having EUW ping, and boy oh boy, every single game had either a bot on my side, on their side or both. Without fail.
It was like being on a different game entirely and now I see why they became so desperate to push this kernel intruding program into their biggest cash cow, knowing full well they're gonna lose some players and money in the process.
Hackers really frick everything for everyone.
League players are so moronic they're now threatening to buy a separate computer just for playing that game.
Not threatening to stop playing...but to play on a new computer.
Riot is quaking in their boots.
>Riot suddenly launches line of gaming computers
I'm not moronic so I'm uninstalling it before it goes live. Can't risk having riot and their chinese overlords getting a hold of my login credentials to the game.
lmao you fricking moron, you are literally sitting in a glass house, the government knows everything about you, wake up dumbass
Last time I checked, it's mostly plywood you fricking mongoloid
I don't play games that require anti cheat. If I did I would probably have a separate PC just for gaming and only gaming.
You get what you deserve for playing competitive multiplayer games online.
Instead of making a cheat proof game, they force you to install a rootkit
That's the only option to combat cheating, moron. Cheating evolved heavily, if you don't do anything like this you have no chance against them.
Garbage, should not be attempted before all the multiplayer is handled over community owned dedicated servers.
Communityserversgays are the most annoying bunch, holy shit.
>kill server admin 2 times
>permaban
Great concept, moron
Never happened to me and if it did the server wouldn't last long.
>Server admin is a piece of shit
>No one uses the server
>It's OK, there's another one
>Maybe you could host one
Anything is better than what we have now.
>Doing anything other than being silent and metagayging is a banworthy offense to someone
>No way to catch cheaters other than blanket-banning or aggressive anti-cheat, can't just let people kick other players
>Matchmaking is algorithmically optimal to boost engagement rather than fun
>You're never going to get matched with likeminded people
>The devs can't possibly trust the players with VoIP chat or any means of communication, so every gay goes to Shitcord
Let's not forget that the game just irrevocably dies if the developers lose interest in maintaining it and there is usually a publisher sending C&Ds to every attempt to get unofficial servers up because people might pirate their dead game when there is a strictly worse successor game already. You might get even more unlucky and the revival project is run by moralgays who don't want you to pirate literal abandonware.
Well, time to sell my alpha account and leave for good once and for all
Imagine installing a chinese rootkit just because you have the self control of a 5 year old and you are addicted to some kids game.
Society was utterly doomed in the year of our lord 1521+503.
I don't find competitive multiplayer games compelling so I've never installed one and don't have to deal with incompetent userspace devs poisoning my kernel
if you don't like it messing with your kernels you can just uninstall it afterward
Or I could just not install the software at all because I don't care for the kind of game and I don't care for malware being on my computer as a precondition for playing a game I don't like.
no you just hate fun
>Prease downroad our Rootkit- I mean anti cheat software prease its good no more hackers no more bots its good for you, we no mess with your date or your hardware we reary reary need fur access to your kernel
Already uninstalled this dogshit game, already meaning to quitting this garbage since the "you can just type karthus ult" shit
Make personal servers a thing again and let those running them deal with cheaters.
>inb4 muh profits
Or just install rootkits on everyone's devices and mine bitcoin/data.
I can't remember the last time I saw anyone cheat in LoL, and if I did, it would mean jack shit to me. I don't play ranked mode. What to I want to install a rootkit for again?
I've been playing for like 7 years and I've only encountered one scripter and one cheater, it's obvious this isn't about cheaters.
I feel like modern competitive games are so thoroughly scummy in basically every way possible that malware anti-cheat doesn't even surprise me. If you're dumb enough to want to play this shit then that's on you.
Also I seriously doubt this will actually stop cheating.
Multiplayer and especially competitive multiplayer have ruined gaming. It's caused the and creation use invasive anticheat that makes the sony rootkit fiasco a joke and people suck that right up their ass so hard that devs even shove it into their singleplayer for zero fricking reason. Can't even have fun cheats to unlock anymore because muh cheevos and muh multiplayer and now we even get "live service" and "microtransactions" that are accepted when everyone shit all over the horse armor dlc.
Hard pass for me
These frickers do nothing for their flagship product and now they want to frick you in the ass for privilege of playing it?
I wonder how it's going to go globally tho, for years they refused to fix their game because of low end pcs but now they're basically booting out everyone with rig older than 2018
I prefer how Valve does it. VAC is fairly useless but the actual good intrusive anticheat is entirely optional (faceit)
Bring back private servers