It's not "zoomers", modern internet in general seems to be carried by a select number of dedicated autists and nobody else, the skibidi toilet dude is a perfect example he's got 0 reason to put out a million of those videos a week but still does it, trannies have 0 reason to complain about every fucking videogame (even those that cater to them) yet still do, this autism translates into everything needing to be as categorized and overdone as possible, the repetition breeds patterns that the weirdos love and because social media doesn't segregate they blend in with the normalfags.
>the skibidi toilet dude is a perfect example he's got 0 reason to put out a million of those videos a week but still does it >0 reason
I think getting millions of views is a pretty good reason, dude is making BANK off of children watching his videos
No one ever has liked that version of The Backrooms. The Kane Pixels version is the only one that has ever achieved widespread popularity, and it is hardly horror. Cope.
all of these are pretty shit except for my house
I feel like horror is meaningless these days since it's just random autistic shit people make up and latch onto
rather than something with a clear intention and mind behind it
There's a video saying the Backrooms wont even do jackshit to disabled people now. Just having the entities coddle and baby them. We should contain these new "fans" there and fix it back up the original roots of fearing the unknown and what could be.
I always loved how the idea of the backrooms expressed a feeling of being in a weird manmade place you weren't supposed to. Sort of uncanny, but more like an alien, strange, accidentally made negative space in the gaps between areas intended for foot traffic. "No clipping" into them was more so a joke to compare to stuff like the "blue hell" in GTA, not some sort of rule they had to follow. It was enough that a backroom was neither a natural space or a purpose built artificial space, but something somewhere in between.
But like any horror, the "sequels" ruined it by overexplaining, adding "lore", trying to include crossovers, sticking too close to the "original", and oversaturating the market with more and more entries. Too many people either missed the point or weren't articulate enough to keep it going at a high quality. And likewise, especially with games, the backrooms aren't scary without a context of a regular world around it. The scariest backrooms are still the ones in normal video games.
I'm feeling old as shit while reading this thread. This Backrooms stuff has only been popular for a few years, and this thread is speaking about it in a strangely reverent and nostalgic tone.
>asian horror >one day a woman died here so now if you cross this bridge and your phone in your pocket is facing outwards she'll take the glans off your penis
There was so many failed slenderman ARGs. The only other two I can remember is EMH which did eventually have an ending and TribeTwelve until the creator got busted for being a groomer, but the series had fizzled out a long time ago.
How could someone who posts Wojaks have even the slightest hope of "fixing" anything? It's already clear you lack both a creative soul and an imaginative mind. I hope you forget to lock your door the next time you leave home and nothing bad happens, but you have a sense of unease for the rest of the day.
Horror was and always did belong to the survival HORROR genre.
As in limited resources and having to fight monstrocities while being low on ammo and health.
All of this zoomer shit with no combat walking simulator garbage is what ruined horror.
Horror is not a walking simulator, horror is an active game where you actually have to fucking SURVIVE and kill monsters, not "Experience" it by staying in the shadows and walking through all of it.
Survival Horror is boring as fuck unless done perfectly tho
Also Silent Hill combat is so bad besides Downpour that i think the series would be better as a walking simulator
Go to a haunted house if what you want is "OMG LOOK AT THE SPOOPY MONSTERS SO SCARIEEEE WOW BETTER HIDE IN A CLOSET TEEHEEE!!11213"
Bad combat is better than no combat, Horror comes from facing your fears and dealing with monsters that are stronger than you.
Not just hiding under the bed until the spoopy footsteps disappear!!!11
>bad combat is better than no combat, Horror comes from facing your fears and dealing with monsters that are stronger than you.
But they aren't.
I can just beat them back with a stick and they can't do anything.
I'm not facing my fears at all, im just pressing the attack button a bunch of times while the enemy gets stunlocked
That's Silent Hill combat
>judging an old game through a modern lense
Call yourself a stupid bitch.
you say all this but the market rejecting the continuing tide of crappy resident evil derivatives was a significant contributor to the downturn of the Japanese industry and its subsequent westernization during the seventh generation
Its perfectly normal for the market to reject it, no one actually likes being afraid.
Games are a power fantasy, and zoomies want to feel powerful.
Except extensive market research was done on why audiences suddenly (yes, suddenly, because if there were no success there wouldn't be imitators in the first place) turned on the genre, and of course it confirmed exactly what everyone thought: that any "horror" game with worse design than Silent Hill (the entire genre by that point) was being interpreted not as horror, but as action games with really bad mechanics.
>le old game is bad becuz i am a stupid
The whole point of horror is isn't jump scares retard
if I just wanted to be ear raped by shadowy figures for hours I'd just go on the discord gays lurk under this board
modern horror games are for retards who want to play action game with a halloween theme or just fuck anything in sight
coomerism is actively ruining games because they cannot stop dicking about fucking everything in sight even the very thing that is supposed to be scary
Who said Silent Hill was bad?
I said the combat is shit because IT IS SHIT you idiot >The whole point of horror is isn't jump scares retard
Who tf even talked about jumpscares? The enemies simply aren't scary to fight >if I just wanted to be ear raped by shadowy figures for hours I'd just go on the discord gays lurk under this board
modern horror games are for retards who want to play action game with a halloween theme or just fuck anything in sight
coomerism is actively ruining games because they cannot stop dicking about fucking everything in sight even the very thing that is supposed to be scary
Why did you even post this? this has nothing to do with my post
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you just did
you are pretty much openly admitting that you think the game is shit because of the combat
which makes 0 sense because the entire point of silent hill is struggling with what is going on in the character's life and what the town is doing to them mentally
modern games and their melee combat systems are for literal morons who are too lazy to simply time their attacks correctly and step in and out properly
it's why all the dark souls games are just gay and retarded
they provide the sense of being good without being good
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you are pretty much openly admitting that you think the game is shit because of the combat
No? I like Silent Hill, i just think the combat is shit >which makes 0 sense because the entire point of silent hill is struggling with what is going on in the character's life and what the town is doing to them mentally
Only SH2, Homecoming and Downpour >modern games and their melee combat systems are for literal morons who are too lazy to simply time their attacks correctly and step in and out properly
You don't need to do that in Silent Hill
Fucking play the games you're defending you fucking retard, ffs.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>get mad when game does not auto lock the attack onto the enemy >waaah this isn't timing the attack correctly
nope
I don't believe you have the mental capacity to even have a real discussion
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>get mad when game does not auto lock the attack onto the enemy
What the fuck are you talking about?
Literally just point your MC tto the enemy you idiot
Hell, guns DO autolock, just point them in the enemy's general direction
Idk how you reached the idea that im a seething soulsfag, but it qin't working fag
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you cannot give a good example as to why the combat sucks so I'm only gonna assume you are a retard and even then it's still evident because of the fact that you don't believe gameplay mechanics and story are heavily tied together
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you cannot give a good example as to why the combat sucks
It's extremely braindead and makes any confrontation lose all that makes it scary >that you don't believe gameplay mechanics and story are heavily tied together
I do
It doesn't work when the gameplay boils down to staying put in one spot stunlocking the enemy while saving up ammo(that you actually don't need to save up becuase you get a fuckton) so that you can melt the super scary boss in seconds to reach the next story beat
Silent Hill is good, great even
but people who try to defend the actual combat are completely out of their minds
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>do retarded thing >it's the game's fault
so you're saying we need to retard proof the game
you say all this but the market rejecting the continuing tide of crappy resident evil derivatives was a significant contributor to the downturn of the Japanese industry and its subsequent westernization during the seventh generation
>noooo you can't expand or add anything on to this 2 paragraph greentext with an interesting premise stoooop
You probably forgot the backrooms as a concept even existed before zoomers came along and "ruined" it for you.
i love FNAF but i will never forgive it for being the death of the horror game genre
horror games from now on are just going to be fronts for their mascot toy business.
im still convinced that garten of banban was only made to sell merch of the characters and that the game was the devs lowest priority.
Hello, me and my sister play rpg maker horror games and they are fun. I bought fatal frame from steam but she can't handle it not even if we share the bed
FNAF is weird because the dev catered too much to his fanbase. The first game was novel because it was subtle and atmospheric. Then each sequel got progressively more in your face with the animatronics until it became this unrecognizable mess. Even with 2 I wondered why people liked it since it was nothing like the original
>he loves blue crayons
what a fucking gay
real gamers pick green
I don't understand this image at all.
ppl complaining because the backrooms changed
they went from something mysterious and genuinely creepy into what is basically a action-fantasy-adventure YA novel open-sourced to kids
>something mysterious and genuinely creepy
have a nice day, zoomer
>something mysterious and genuinely creepy
Fuck off zoomer, the backrooms are the comfiest thing in existence
The backrooms essentially became great value SCP foundation since they don't have an age requirement.
Zoomers have a pathological need to have everything overexplained to them because all they understand is gross matter and not subtlety.
It's not "zoomers", modern internet in general seems to be carried by a select number of dedicated autists and nobody else, the skibidi toilet dude is a perfect example he's got 0 reason to put out a million of those videos a week but still does it, trannies have 0 reason to complain about every fucking videogame (even those that cater to them) yet still do, this autism translates into everything needing to be as categorized and overdone as possible, the repetition breeds patterns that the weirdos love and because social media doesn't segregate they blend in with the normalfags.
>the skibidi toilet dude is a perfect example he's got 0 reason to put out a million of those videos a week but still does it
>0 reason
I think getting millions of views is a pretty good reason, dude is making BANK off of children watching his videos
The concept of the Backrooms fundamentally changed when the Zoomers got hold of it, and that change was for the worse.
You're not immature enough to get it
Simple yet compelling elevator pitch concept got stretched into le spooky mattpat lore garbage
>2020 vs 2022 nostalgia
growing up in the tiktok era must be hell
gay
QUEER
I dont get it, why are you so angry at this one specific anon
HOMOSEXUAL
>me walking thru my Amazon smart home at 3am.
HOMO
so you're a queer aren't you?
YOU gay
Not exactly a new concept, for example people were regularly nostalgiaposting for launch/beta TF2 by the Sniper/Spy update.
FAG
No one ever has liked that version of The Backrooms. The Kane Pixels version is the only one that has ever achieved widespread popularity, and it is hardly horror. Cope.
yeah this version is so much better
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s2VrTgkgZq4
>implying that zoomer slop was any good
It amuses me that people still post wojaks and expect to be taken seriously. I guess children just don't know any different.
The Backrooms was never interesting and the fact that it opens with "noclipping out of reality" made it impossible to take seriously.
The grimace shake thing was an ad campaign. Do zoomers really?
They turned it into this retarded fucking meme about grimace coming to kill you if you drank the shake
No.
Don't Hug Me I'm Scared is Gankercore, though.
Isn't it made by leftists?
Why woild it be Gankercore
Local 58 and DHMIS are millennial horror though
Millennials were in their 30s when that stuff was out. Those are for zoomers.
Millennial horror is Candyman, Scream, Blair Witch, The Ring
Man, millenial horror is fucking garbage
It was literally a one-off Ganker post, it was never meant to spawn a whole series.
all of these are pretty shit except for my house
I feel like horror is meaningless these days since it's just random autistic shit people make up and latch onto
rather than something with a clear intention and mind behind it
all it's missing is a bad VHS filter
Why is the Caretaker's Everywhere At the End of Time album on here? Did it get suddenly popular or something? It's not even horror.
tiktok and youtube algorithm got a hold of it and now there's a 'challenge' to listen to the whole album in one sitting or whatever
still a wonderful album tho
>classy music
>classy music, slower
>class music, slower AND muffled
Whoa... Amazing...
Don't you shove SCP onto us moron
People were really scared of Grimaces Birthday Shake? Damn fast food mascots really are the clownphobia of gen z
Anon SCP Foundation was a thing when zoomers were still in pre-school or diapers.
My House is not horror.
There's a video saying the Backrooms wont even do jackshit to disabled people now. Just having the entities coddle and baby them. We should contain these new "fans" there and fix it back up the original roots of fearing the unknown and what could be.
>So the worst he'll do is open a wormhole to level -2 #@%# instead of shoving a firecracker up my ass
>redditjak
go back
>wojak and pepe
do they know you escaped from the nursing home yet grandpa?
the right is better
The right is funnier
Fascinating how there's always at least one retard who outs himself whenever that pic is posted
Both are funny
I always loved how the idea of the backrooms expressed a feeling of being in a weird manmade place you weren't supposed to. Sort of uncanny, but more like an alien, strange, accidentally made negative space in the gaps between areas intended for foot traffic. "No clipping" into them was more so a joke to compare to stuff like the "blue hell" in GTA, not some sort of rule they had to follow. It was enough that a backroom was neither a natural space or a purpose built artificial space, but something somewhere in between.
But like any horror, the "sequels" ruined it by overexplaining, adding "lore", trying to include crossovers, sticking too close to the "original", and oversaturating the market with more and more entries. Too many people either missed the point or weren't articulate enough to keep it going at a high quality. And likewise, especially with games, the backrooms aren't scary without a context of a regular world around it. The scariest backrooms are still the ones in normal video games.
I'm feeling old as shit while reading this thread. This Backrooms stuff has only been popular for a few years, and this thread is speaking about it in a strangely reverent and nostalgic tone.
take inspiration from asian horror
>girl I want to have sex with running towards me
damn the japs are based
she's korean
>asian horror
>one day a woman died here so now if you cross this bridge and your phone in your pocket is facing outwards she'll take the glans off your penis
kino
asian horror is all the same though and only le hecking slowburn and subtlefags like it
I see you have never watched Tetsuo
>ghost of a streamer goes after people that watched a problematic deleted vod
lil bro watched a vod and woke up dead, no cap
How the hell do you wake up dead
i'm glad marble hornets existed before zoomers could ruin it.
slenderman was arguably the very first example of zoomer horror albeit
slenderman was fine. it didn't get cringe until several years after the series ended.
slenderman was only fine when it was just a photoshop phriday meme back when goons were slightly less embarrassing
There was so many failed slenderman ARGs. The only other two I can remember is EMH which did eventually have an ending and TribeTwelve until the creator got busted for being a groomer, but the series had fizzled out a long time ago.
How could someone who posts Wojaks have even the slightest hope of "fixing" anything? It's already clear you lack both a creative soul and an imaginative mind. I hope you forget to lock your door the next time you leave home and nothing bad happens, but you have a sense of unease for the rest of the day.
Reminds me of the rage comics. People liked them until they became too popular.
It's actually the opposite the chuck is backrooms then, but you wouldn't know about that.
>haha zoomers are so silly being scared of liminal space it's just an empty room
>noo why are zoomers ruining my spooky liminal space kino
More sex, unironically.
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Horror was and always did belong to the survival HORROR genre.
As in limited resources and having to fight monstrocities while being low on ammo and health.
All of this zoomer shit with no combat walking simulator garbage is what ruined horror.
Horror is not a walking simulator, horror is an active game where you actually have to fucking SURVIVE and kill monsters, not "Experience" it by staying in the shadows and walking through all of it.
Fucking zoomies.
Survival Horror is boring as fuck unless done perfectly tho
Also Silent Hill combat is so bad besides Downpour that i think the series would be better as a walking simulator
Go to a haunted house if what you want is "OMG LOOK AT THE SPOOPY MONSTERS SO SCARIEEEE WOW BETTER HIDE IN A CLOSET TEEHEEE!!11213"
Bad combat is better than no combat, Horror comes from facing your fears and dealing with monsters that are stronger than you.
Not just hiding under the bed until the spoopy footsteps disappear!!!11
>bad combat is better than no combat, Horror comes from facing your fears and dealing with monsters that are stronger than you.
But they aren't.
I can just beat them back with a stick and they can't do anything.
I'm not facing my fears at all, im just pressing the attack button a bunch of times while the enemy gets stunlocked
That's Silent Hill combat
>judging an old game through a modern lense
Call yourself a stupid bitch.
Its perfectly normal for the market to reject it, no one actually likes being afraid.
Games are a power fantasy, and zoomies want to feel powerful.
>judging a game based on standards
Wow what a concept you fucking imbecile
This is how I know you're a zoomer BITCH.
Ok retard
Except extensive market research was done on why audiences suddenly (yes, suddenly, because if there were no success there wouldn't be imitators in the first place) turned on the genre, and of course it confirmed exactly what everyone thought: that any "horror" game with worse design than Silent Hill (the entire genre by that point) was being interpreted not as horror, but as action games with really bad mechanics.
>le old game is bad becuz i am a stupid
The whole point of horror is isn't jump scares retard
if I just wanted to be ear raped by shadowy figures for hours I'd just go on the discord gays lurk under this board
modern horror games are for retards who want to play action game with a halloween theme or just fuck anything in sight
coomerism is actively ruining games because they cannot stop dicking about fucking everything in sight even the very thing that is supposed to be scary
Who said Silent Hill was bad?
I said the combat is shit because IT IS SHIT you idiot
>The whole point of horror is isn't jump scares retard
Who tf even talked about jumpscares? The enemies simply aren't scary to fight
>if I just wanted to be ear raped by shadowy figures for hours I'd just go on the discord gays lurk under this board
modern horror games are for retards who want to play action game with a halloween theme or just fuck anything in sight
coomerism is actively ruining games because they cannot stop dicking about fucking everything in sight even the very thing that is supposed to be scary
Why did you even post this? this has nothing to do with my post
you just did
you are pretty much openly admitting that you think the game is shit because of the combat
which makes 0 sense because the entire point of silent hill is struggling with what is going on in the character's life and what the town is doing to them mentally
modern games and their melee combat systems are for literal morons who are too lazy to simply time their attacks correctly and step in and out properly
it's why all the dark souls games are just gay and retarded
they provide the sense of being good without being good
>you are pretty much openly admitting that you think the game is shit because of the combat
No? I like Silent Hill, i just think the combat is shit
>which makes 0 sense because the entire point of silent hill is struggling with what is going on in the character's life and what the town is doing to them mentally
Only SH2, Homecoming and Downpour
>modern games and their melee combat systems are for literal morons who are too lazy to simply time their attacks correctly and step in and out properly
You don't need to do that in Silent Hill
Fucking play the games you're defending you fucking retard, ffs.
>get mad when game does not auto lock the attack onto the enemy
>waaah this isn't timing the attack correctly
nope
I don't believe you have the mental capacity to even have a real discussion
>get mad when game does not auto lock the attack onto the enemy
What the fuck are you talking about?
Literally just point your MC tto the enemy you idiot
Hell, guns DO autolock, just point them in the enemy's general direction
Idk how you reached the idea that im a seething soulsfag, but it qin't working fag
you cannot give a good example as to why the combat sucks so I'm only gonna assume you are a retard and even then it's still evident because of the fact that you don't believe gameplay mechanics and story are heavily tied together
>you cannot give a good example as to why the combat sucks
It's extremely braindead and makes any confrontation lose all that makes it scary
>that you don't believe gameplay mechanics and story are heavily tied together
I do
It doesn't work when the gameplay boils down to staying put in one spot stunlocking the enemy while saving up ammo(that you actually don't need to save up becuase you get a fuckton) so that you can melt the super scary boss in seconds to reach the next story beat
Silent Hill is good, great even
but people who try to defend the actual combat are completely out of their minds
>do retarded thing
>it's the game's fault
so you're saying we need to retard proof the game
you say all this but the market rejecting the continuing tide of crappy resident evil derivatives was a significant contributor to the downturn of the Japanese industry and its subsequent westernization during the seventh generation
We need Manhunt 3.
>noooo you can't expand or add anything on to this 2 paragraph greentext with an interesting premise stoooop
You probably forgot the backrooms as a concept even existed before zoomers came along and "ruined" it for you.
Horror is the most indie friendly game
Tons are released everyday and many are pretty good
i love FNAF but i will never forgive it for being the death of the horror game genre
horror games from now on are just going to be fronts for their mascot toy business.
im still convinced that garten of banban was only made to sell merch of the characters and that the game was the devs lowest priority.
Both the examples in your pic were always gay.
It doesn't need to be fixed
what little kids consider "horror" has no bearing on "the horror genre"
Hello, me and my sister play rpg maker horror games and they are fun. I bought fatal frame from steam but she can't handle it not even if we share the bed
I've been working on a concept that combines horror with Dance Dance Revolution
FNAF is weird because the dev catered too much to his fanbase. The first game was novel because it was subtle and atmospheric. Then each sequel got progressively more in your face with the animatronics until it became this unrecognizable mess. Even with 2 I wondered why people liked it since it was nothing like the original