u have to cum in a vial and mail it to a gamer verification center and then they send you your encrypted dongle that you need to have plugged in to play any game
never
the site owners know that pc covers almost every video game in existence due to emulation as well as touches on a vast number of other topics and will irrevocably destroy all boards and split every video game board in favor of pc
also the console shills wont get the eyes and ears of pc players because why would a pc player spend their time on the console board
Not a zoomer. If it was a zoomer they would want the game to look like a piece of shit PS1 game with a bunch of VHS damage effects, CRT shaders, etc
Also, they're absolutely right, why the frick would you pay $60 for a fricking emulator?
>stop romanticizing old shit
no
games should be experienced in as much of their original context as possible
'updating' graphics is unnecessary, implies older visuals are somehow deficient and NEED updating, and almost always makes them worse in some way or breaks some aspect of the intended effect
>implies older visuals are somehow deficient and NEED updating
they are, especially early 3d >almost always makes them worse in some way or breaks some aspect of the intended effect
irrelevant to the issue
if you could make them better without fricking anything up you would, and making mgs better graphically is really not that hard
>if you could make them better without fricking anything up you would
The only thing I would even slightly consider changing would be the ground and wall distortion, but I wouldn't even do that >they are, especially early 3d
they don't always look great but what we got is an indelible part of the package, changing the graphics changes the experience too much >irrelevant to the issue
Absolutely not, the initial designers, even if they were working with limitations, made deliberate decisions about how it was supposed to look, and the ideas and feelings they wanted to convey. Some idiot deciding that something can 'look better' can easily erase an important stylistic choice
>but I wouldn't even do that
I would and I would go way further
you can't possibly compare a ps1 3d model with anything some random butthole could make in an afternoon today and objectively prefer the ps1 version without additional context >changing the graphics changes the experience too much
and the issue here is you're not judging a game, you're judging some piece of history which doesn't hold up to today's standards
I would have obviously preferred the remake in the 2000s and that's peak objectivity right there >Some idiot deciding that something can 'look better' can easily erase an important stylistic choice
I agree : twin snakes, besides the change in direction, fricked the colors massively and the game overall felt less claustrophobic as a result
but twin snakes is a terrible example of remaking a game while staying true to the original
when you check shit like fire emblem 2 and shadow of valentia it's not even a contest
>you can't possibly compare a ps1 3d model with anything some random butthole could make in an afternoon today and objectively prefer the ps1 version without additional context
There's a difference between graphical fidelity and artistic value though, a lot of those older models have their own distinct look and flair that isn't 'worse' even if it's less technologically advanced >and the issue here is you're not judging a game, you're judging some piece of history which doesn't hold up to today's standards
Says you! It IS a piece of history (and is being re-re-re-released to cash in on that, specifically) and quite honestly, despite the improvement in technology today's standards are pretty garbage. >I would have obviously preferred the remake in the 2000s and that's peak objectivity right there
At one point I would have preferred it too, now I just think changing things erases too much context and destabilizes a delicate balance
I'm probably overly hostile to the concept of remakes and remasters these days but it's very rare to find one that's actually an improvement
have a nice day. it's not romanticizing, its appreciating the game for what it was. I still think it's moronic for konami to have released the collection 4 times but you will buy it anyway you frick
Yeah, fricking zoomers, back in 1998, we all played 240p games on 4K LCD monitors and thought it looked fine. This is exactly the original vision and intent.
He's not wrong, if nothing extra is offered with an easily emulatable game then it's better to just spend no money, emulate it and use the large array of available configurations to tweak your game.
t.nearing my 40's. If you want to retain and appreciate the originals graphics, appreciate and play the original. There's nothing wrong with a graphical overhaul, it doesn't remove the original. Stop being autistic. If they babyfied the gameplay that'd be another story. But it doesnt change the gameplay or how it functions does it, so its all good. Stop fixating on a single aspect autist. Not everything has to stop what its doing because you fear change or have a kicking screaming fear of not being heard.
ban consoles and anyone under the age of 30 from playing games. all problems solved.
>31
Yay, I get to continue playing slop.
How do we verify ages? Everyone on steam just puts the default date of 1900 when prompted.
Verified SSN like Korea does
u have to cum in a vial and mail it to a gamer verification center and then they send you your encrypted dongle that you need to have plugged in to play any game
/vpc/ - PC Gaming when?
It would just be 2 dozen doom generals.
So infinitely better than Ganker has been in 10 years?
Make it happen, Hiroshima.
I would browse that board instead
/vst/ + /vpc/ would make a great combo
never
the site owners know that pc covers almost every video game in existence due to emulation as well as touches on a vast number of other topics and will irrevocably destroy all boards and split every video game board in favor of pc
also the console shills wont get the eyes and ears of pc players because why would a pc player spend their time on the console board
how is that wrong?
Not a zoomer. If it was a zoomer they would want the game to look like a piece of shit PS1 game with a bunch of VHS damage effects, CRT shaders, etc
Also, they're absolutely right, why the frick would you pay $60 for a fricking emulator?
Picrel is a dummy, but the release is far too lazy for what they're charging
Scrutinization aside, moron isn't wrong: they ARE charging a lot for what is barely a port
he's right
stop romanticizing old shit
>t.35
>stop romanticizing old shit
no
games should be experienced in as much of their original context as possible
'updating' graphics is unnecessary, implies older visuals are somehow deficient and NEED updating, and almost always makes them worse in some way or breaks some aspect of the intended effect
>implies older visuals are somehow deficient and NEED updating
they are, especially early 3d
>almost always makes them worse in some way or breaks some aspect of the intended effect
irrelevant to the issue
if you could make them better without fricking anything up you would, and making mgs better graphically is really not that hard
>if you could make them better without fricking anything up you would
The only thing I would even slightly consider changing would be the ground and wall distortion, but I wouldn't even do that
>they are, especially early 3d
they don't always look great but what we got is an indelible part of the package, changing the graphics changes the experience too much
>irrelevant to the issue
Absolutely not, the initial designers, even if they were working with limitations, made deliberate decisions about how it was supposed to look, and the ideas and feelings they wanted to convey. Some idiot deciding that something can 'look better' can easily erase an important stylistic choice
>but I wouldn't even do that
I would and I would go way further
you can't possibly compare a ps1 3d model with anything some random butthole could make in an afternoon today and objectively prefer the ps1 version without additional context
>changing the graphics changes the experience too much
and the issue here is you're not judging a game, you're judging some piece of history which doesn't hold up to today's standards
I would have obviously preferred the remake in the 2000s and that's peak objectivity right there
>Some idiot deciding that something can 'look better' can easily erase an important stylistic choice
I agree : twin snakes, besides the change in direction, fricked the colors massively and the game overall felt less claustrophobic as a result
but twin snakes is a terrible example of remaking a game while staying true to the original
when you check shit like fire emblem 2 and shadow of valentia it's not even a contest
>you can't possibly compare a ps1 3d model with anything some random butthole could make in an afternoon today and objectively prefer the ps1 version without additional context
There's a difference between graphical fidelity and artistic value though, a lot of those older models have their own distinct look and flair that isn't 'worse' even if it's less technologically advanced
>and the issue here is you're not judging a game, you're judging some piece of history which doesn't hold up to today's standards
Says you! It IS a piece of history (and is being re-re-re-released to cash in on that, specifically) and quite honestly, despite the improvement in technology today's standards are pretty garbage.
>I would have obviously preferred the remake in the 2000s and that's peak objectivity right there
At one point I would have preferred it too, now I just think changing things erases too much context and destabilizes a delicate balance
I'm probably overly hostile to the concept of remakes and remasters these days but it's very rare to find one that's actually an improvement
have a nice day. it's not romanticizing, its appreciating the game for what it was. I still think it's moronic for konami to have released the collection 4 times but you will buy it anyway you frick
>its appreciating the game for what it was
I did that 20 years ago you zoomer homosexual
you appreciate it contextually, not two decades later
have a nice day troony shill
Buy?
but he's right
The Twin Snakes is better.
Twin Snakes is unironically the worst mainline metal gear game.
That's not true, "solid" series isn't even mainline you goof.
>weebs in charge of twisting and revising history to suit their shit tastes
You really are the same as the imagined people you despise
Yeah, fricking zoomers, back in 1998, we all played 240p games on 4K LCD monitors and thought it looked fine. This is exactly the original vision and intent.
I mean you're not a zoomer that would want the port to look like this, right?
He's right, these morons are basically selling emulators disguised as remasters.
He's not wrong, if nothing extra is offered with an easily emulatable game then it's better to just spend no money, emulate it and use the large array of available configurations to tweak your game.
The zoomer is right here.
t.nearing my 40's. If you want to retain and appreciate the originals graphics, appreciate and play the original. There's nothing wrong with a graphical overhaul, it doesn't remove the original. Stop being autistic. If they babyfied the gameplay that'd be another story. But it doesnt change the gameplay or how it functions does it, so its all good. Stop fixating on a single aspect autist. Not everything has to stop what its doing because you fear change or have a kicking screaming fear of not being heard.
Wait, why not make a remaster, and then add an option to change the original graphics, fricking Halo and wizardry new age of llylgamyn