How do we stop hackers in online games? Why do so many people defend cheaters?

How do we stop hackers in online games? Why do so many people defend cheaters?
https://twitter.com/EoJihz/status/1753896425094611397

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we stop hackers in online games? Why do so many people defend cheaters?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >brown

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not clicking that twitter link.
    Also it cant be stopped. Competitive matchmaking has ensured that. As long as a player is put into a lobby where they might lose, they'll try to take any advantage they can, and that will lead some people to cheating. Then their opponents seeing them get away with cheating will in turn turn to cheats to even the playing field, and then everyone is cheating ala counterstrike

    technologically speaking, there is literally no way to stop cheating, only make it more expensive for legitimate players and cheaters alike to play the game the way they want to play.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but the difference is no matter what they do, all they do is increase profit for the hackers to turn more canucks into script kiddies.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Then their opponents seeing them get away with cheating will in turn turn to cheats to even the playing field
      Literally my experience with WoT, the only online game I've ever cheated.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        only game i cheated in was GTA online. And that was so I could get protection against other cheaters. Also to be fair, gta online exists just to drain my wallet so frick em, i'll play by my own rules. And those rules are "im flying around in a yellow prison bus i call the magic school bus, because frick you".

        Not clicking that youtube link.

        cry about it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not clicking that youtube link.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Abusing muscle memory in mw3

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        is that the content of the tweet? if so thank you for saving me a visit to that hellscape.
        I actually block twitter at home because every time i visit the site i feel my IQ draining and my anger rising, that shits unhealthy for me.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes, of course quality is shit because filesize

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            thats ok, its enough to show blatant aimsnapping, probably using DMA or EFI cheats and a fake mouse microcontroller

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Half the comments are random accounts saying things like "not aim bot, just get good, jealous" etc. Its got over 6 million views and less than 3k likes.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                half the people saying that have fallen victim to the psyop of "kernel anitcheats are perfect and cant be circumvented because they run at ring 0" as if the EFI layer doesn't exist, or the hardware layer doesnt exist.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why do so many people defend cheaters?
                This is what kills me. Eons ago, cheaters were just cheaters that'd get kicked by a local admin and eventually scooped up by a VAC ban wave. Now even the most blatant examples are defended by delirious eSimps, envious of becoming the next big streamer themselves, that'll claim snapping 180 to an attempted headshot through an impenetrable material is just thousands of hours of good game sense at work.

                When combined with forced crossplay and overtuned aim assist, modern shooters feel horrific to play competitively in a forced matchmaking nightmare.

                I am always surprised at how many people defend obvious cheaters. The people that play these games are dead stupid and ignorant, they believe anything.
                >Hes just using keyboard and mouse!
                >Sometimes he misses!
                >Hes played for so long so of course hes good!
                >It was just lucky this time!
                >Look at those "micro adjustments"
                Cheating software is so advanced now, and yet its still obvious hes hacking in these clips.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's not just cheating software
                like ok, the anticheat runs at ring 0 aka the kernel to run countermeasures against accessing protected game memory and to flag attempts to bypass those countermeasures.

                But then what if you use a custom EFI bootloader that injects custom drivers that masquerade as windows drivers, to act as your cheats. Well then the anticheat has to figure out whats going on via manual verification and then signature matching, ala VAC 1.0.

                And what if the cheater uses DMA by plugging in a PCIE card that claims to be a network card, but in reality is watching the memory bus without making any calls to the CPU, is broadcasting that info via serial to another pc, which then processes that info, and calculates what mouse movements need to occur in order to hit a target, and then broadcasts those mouse movements to a custom microcontroller that can override your mouse's inputs with it's own inputs...

                ... its just so ridiculous. You can't beat cheaters through automated means, because all you're doing is setting rules they have to find ways around. And they will find ways around them. It's just a matter of time and money.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                If someone is mentally ill enough to do all this they do actually deserve to be publicly executed because they’re such huge homosexuals, I’m not exaggerating

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                kind of agree, if its a coincidental consequence of some other program being developed that just so happens to be master at cheating then... that's fair I guess, but whenever is that the case? Never cuz cheaters are fricking homosexuals and russians and chinks literally cannot stop themselves from cheating.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can deal with twitter moronation for the most part, what really makes my blood boil is imgur moronation, whenever somebody links there I end up scrolling down and getting upset.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >People gotta understand these are all HIGHLIGHTS from 2 weeks of playing. I've been doing this actively for 2 years ish, so obviously my aim is not gonna be all over the place. Here's a clip in the same game as the second clip in my tweet where i overflick.
        https://twitter.com/EoJihz/status/1754562312646566189
        Totally not hax guys. Im just better than you!

        Perhaps the Overwatch system wasn't that bad after all.

        >playing without headphones or listening to some r*p """""""music"""""""
        >accuse non-morons of cheating

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        This video right here is why I hate the cod community and every youtuber/livestreamer in it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Combat Master has this system where they just give like double XP to players without cheats or mods on.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I forgot to add that this system seems to work pretty well. I hardly run into cheaters.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Competitive matchmaking has ensured that
      I've experienced cheaters in all kinds of games

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        competitive matchmaking has ensured that it's commonplace to cheat, not just in competitive matchmade games. When it becomes the norm, it occurs everywhere.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you play online multiplayer games in 2024 you are cattle and should just download cheats like every other sub 85 IQ moron.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    SSN number required on Steam. No more cheaters. No Chinese. No Brazilians

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >People gotta understand these are all HIGHLIGHTS from 2 weeks of playing. I've been doing this actively for 2 years ish, so obviously my aim is not gonna be all over the place. Here's a clip in the same game as the second clip in my tweet where i overflick.
    https://twitter.com/EoJihz/status/1754562312646566189
    Totally not hax guys. Im just better than you!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What a weird way of coping. A cheater I sometimes played CS with did it exactly like that. Played normally most of the time, would cheat for a few minutes at a time, then turns it off for a while again, etc. Never got caught either. He does the same shit in other games too.
      And that fricker's acting as if you're always cheating or never cheating, nothing inbetween.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        low IQ people cannot understand that you only have to cheat "sometimes." And this is why you can never trust a cheater.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have the exact same friend. Cheats but keeps it subtle. Just enough to end up being juust one click above others. Then throws a fit if ever spotted. A grown man. Suddenly in high pitch voice. Giving examples of times he doesnt cheat to distract away from the cheat.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just ban them.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    get rid of matchmaking and bring back dedicated servers

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do so many people defend cheaters?
    This is what kills me. Eons ago, cheaters were just cheaters that'd get kicked by a local admin and eventually scooped up by a VAC ban wave. Now even the most blatant examples are defended by delirious eSimps, envious of becoming the next big streamer themselves, that'll claim snapping 180 to an attempted headshot through an impenetrable material is just thousands of hours of good game sense at work.

    When combined with forced crossplay and overtuned aim assist, modern shooters feel horrific to play competitively in a forced matchmaking nightmare.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    RealID
    then start executing cheaters IRL
    only way to be sure

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The effects of "Every multiplayer game has to be ultra competative" has been a disaster on the multiplayer community.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      People are cheating in casual games where it doesn't matter at all

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah because of competitive esports freaks.
        Even in casual modes it's full of people who think they're at a world cup final.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >competitive games invented cheating

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >esports freaks did this

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Has no argument

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man I remember thinking VAC used to be good. Maybe it was never good. Playing against cheaters daily in cs2 these days. And I mean the spinbot scout bhopping kind

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Perhaps the Overwatch system wasn't that bad after all.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    real life id in the account + kernel level and everything else, there's literally no other way, fps is pretty much a dead genre for me now because it all moved on to be competitive and have tons of cheaters everywhere

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    without real life consequences it's impossible to stop it

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Legislation, if we can't chuck cheaters in a jail cell for a few weeks they won't stop.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    there is a market for it so it'll never stop.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    When AI cheats start taking over it will be basically impossible to stop them, everybody and their grandmother will have the skill of a 80000h streamer/pro

    On one hand competitive multiplayer gaming is getting worse everyday because of cheats, but on another you probably should play it while you can because it's gonna be over soon

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