How do we unforget him /tg/?
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How do we unforget him /tg/?
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You'd have to retcon everything that happened with 8th ED and onward. Which is impossible retcon at this point sadly.
Literally who?
he needs to remain forgotten, interesting idea godawful execution
My hobby store has like 4 boxes of him next to the legionaries kits and I just know they're gonna be there until the end of time
Idk what you mean in terms of execution, but I don't imagine a dark daemon of forges and fire and industry to be skinny and wiry. his eyes are just soulless in a bad way and his face looks like a mask. just no personality. he looks like a mindless daemon-engine
the energy they poured into this vashtorr bullshit should've been poured into speeding up the release of a new plastic line of chorfs for AoS
never trust bald penis headed mf's like horus
>dark daemon of forges and fire and industry to be skinny and wiry
All artifice*
Clockworking, locksmithing, he technically claims it all under his portfolio even pottery
deamonic pots would unironcally be really cool if theres ever a bronze age chaos culture, like the blood pact but its deamonic hoplites.
Deamonic locksmithing would be a cool idea to explore, you need a sacrifical victim of a hyper specific build, height, frame etc so they're body is used as a key and broken and torn to unlock the lock in a specific manner
>his eyes are just soulless in a bad way and his face looks like a mask.
Should have looked like this old obscure bit
>Idk what you mean in terms of execution, but I don't imagine a dark daemon of forges and fire and industry to be skinny and wiry. his eyes are just soulless in a bad way and his face looks like a mask. just no personality. he looks like a mindless daemon-engine
His face looks like the Basedface meme
They should just have make a greater daemon of hashut or something
That'd open the door to a lot of extremely jank crossover between Warhammers, and the Dark Mechanicum design language has a long history of difference from Chorf industry furthering said issue.
Should have thought about that before they made Chaos crossover with even the same characters.
Most of the existing overlap is grandathered in from the earliest "Warhammer In Space" bones of the franchise, with Chaos having the largest share just because of model line considerations. Porting the Chorfs chaotic backend into the Dark Mechanicum just doesn't work because they're different in look and function on almost every single matter. Chorfs are just "early-industrial+Chaos", the Dark Mechanicum are "Deep Weird Shit Through High Technology And Chaos".
He's effectively a god of industry rather than technology directly, with how his priesthood are involved in Zarr Naggrund's factory-work and don't hesitate to leverage magic in it.
IIRC, they scrapped Squats and all the "engineers of the Empire" was moved to the admech. So it would totally fit if they did the same to the chorfs (chuats?)
I don't know why people keep saying this, when Hashut isn't a technology god. He's the god of slavery, darkness, and fire. Chorfs are technologically advanced because they're dwarfs, not because they worship Hashut.
Hashut made their industry more reckless and unrestrained, kind of like darkmech
Replying to myself here: After typing this, I realize that Vashtorr also has themes of fire and slavery, so maybe it's not *that* stupid after all.
this. hashut is an elevated greater daemon of khorne. he unlocked the destructive desires in them but the tech direction is because dwarfs.
No he isn't. Stop trying to reduce chaos back to just 4 gods, it's lame as frick. Especially when it makes no sense.
ntg but "hashut looks a lot like a khorne daemon and his symbol looks a lot like the khorne symbol" is something that's been pointed out in official lore sources
Literally who?
Flesh out the Forge of Souls into an actual thing beyond just him and the Soul Grinder. His fluff mentions indentured daemons and two other daemon engines, so add those.
This, really. The Soul Forge has been in the background for years but ended up getting the Ynnari treatment in their tabletop debut, minus the two infantry-sized characters that are more feasible to run in small armies.
Churn out an infantry box, the Daemon engines mentioned, and maybe a couple generic daemon brokers and you'll have an actual debut at least on par with Votann, WE and TSons, instead of asking a player to start an army wholly dependent on creative conversions and paint jobs to get the idea across.
What an absolutely fricking horrendous looking model
Release more Primaris Leutnants.
His entire purpose could just be filled by Perturabo if they're committed to this whole bringing the primarchs back BS. Literally explains what he's been up to, how the Iron Warriors fit into the story progression, etc. But no, instead it's the brand new super serious demon who answers to no one and a huge threat to the chaos gods even though he's never come up in conversation up until just now. Also, shit model.
>His entire purpose could just be filled by Perturabo if they're committed to this whole bringing the primarchs back BS.
I would rather have more named daemons than more fricking primarchs. Any legion or warband can summon a daemon; primarchs are legion-locked.
>builds the Arks of Omen, the newest superweapons to threaten the galaxy
>all Arks are either destroyed in embarrassing 1 sentence ways or just forgotten about
>Vashtorr then vanishes at the end of the same series that he was introduced in
It's like GW set him up to be memory holed
He's another Ynnari.
Were back to "Frick anything that shakes the setting too much".
Dude, there are hundreds possibly thousands of Arks of Omen in the galaxy. The series named only a dozen or so.
The Herald of Misery is still rampaging. The Sobbing God wasn't destroyed by the Tyranids. The Tyranid codex mentions that a daemon saved it and now it's puking Chaos and Tyranid invasions wherever it goes.
We don't because abby's butt-slave is cringe.
He should start a podcast with Kragnos about being a GW has beens who got hyped for 5 seconds only to recieve 0 follow up
kragnos was at least playable
At least Vashtor actually fits with the armies he's supposed to be used in.
Kragnos is the better model though, just doesn't fit into any list.
Vashtorr at least shares design elements with other CSM models. Kragnos sticks out like a sore thumb in any Destruction army, even the Kruleboyz who are supposed to venerate him.
Kragnos looks super cool, shame they never actually made an army for anyone to use him in.
GW Already made him unusable on the TT.
Speaking of, anyone remember Haarken Worldclaimer?
You mean "you're doods chaos lord with a jump pack"
easy, just make him OP in the game. Tabletop lore is the true king.
>Yes, my son? What is it?
>Huh? A vision of the future?
>What are "Arks of Omen?"
>Daemons? There's no such thing!
>"Primaris Marines?" How could anyone improve on the Emperor's perfect work?
>You've just been in space too long, my son.
>Grab your bolter and join me in the vanguard. These Orks won't kill themselves!
they should just End Time 40k already, before running it further into the ground
It will die when the Dark Gods will it and not a moment before.
It's already too late for that, my friend
40k is doing better than it ever has before, there is no reason to End Time it
Primaris marines was already their end times event. These greedy fricks don't have any love for the universe and it shows.
We don't. We stay thankful this Chaos Cawl was forgotten in the trashbin where he belongs with the rest of the cheap equal attention cakes.
Seems like you should unforget the word "remember" first
Stuff like this model would honestly have more staying power as a generic unit like ‘Dark Mechanicum priest’ rather than adding another named character that is forgotten instantly and is only useful in niche lists within a sub faction that isn’t fleshed out
I painted mine and field him frequently
Have him able to take Daemon Engines and Hellbrutes as Battleline?
>fix Vashtorr
He's actually the Eldar Pantheon's Hephaestus figure, Vaul, Slaanesh failed to kill him, having merely injured him badly enough to require millennia of time, raw Chaotic energy, extensive self-made cybernetics and the faith of the mon-keigh to heal himself.
Fragments of the god Vaul, but not all of his memories or consciousness
Tie in to the Blackstone fortresses, hint at other ancient Vaul superweapons
Gathering pieces of himself through his work in the soul forges, Daemons are pacted to bring him mysterious artifacts or warp shards that make him more dangerous or restore parts of him
Tzeentch daemons, Thousand sons and other chaos factions also value these maguffins leading to conflict between Vashtors bonded ones and nominal allies or rivals
Solid reason for the model to appear on the tabletop to secure something or other, gain knowledge about an Items location etc
There's a lot to play with in this idea
It's bullshit that this guy isn't as good at fragging vehicles on the tabletop as the void dragon shard is
I never owned any Chaos model, from Fantasy to Aos/40k but i really like this model.
No idea why the comunity doesnt like it.
I like the models buy AoO was kind of silly and pointless because it was on the tail end of 9e
So it is a lore reason. I dont really know 40k lore in details i mostly played collected and painted Fantasy/AoS.
I find this model quite disturbing but i cant really put my finger on why. Also never seen it in person.
Unironically make him OP as shit ingame. If he appears in every tournament list posted online and stomps people into the ground, everyone will know who he is.
Why should we? He's shallow and boring, came out of nowhere and went right back to it, and he reduces an enormous swathe of Chaos fluff to one slack-jawed shithead that bickers with Abaddon. The model is neat, rebrand it as a "Herald of Vashtorr" and have someone competent rewrite the character from the ground up.