Of course they do thats why I usually stay off Ganker whenever something is close to releasing. That being said if your a person that gets mad at spoilers at a piece of media thats been out for Years and years your a moron.
I usually avoid spoilers for games I'm interested in like the plague, but often enough I accidentally read a spoiler for a game that I didn't care about that was so interesting I had to play it.
Based deranged bro. I too sometimes read last page of a book way before the book ends. Once, fricking Dagda of all people came and killed main character of a book. I kept waiting for Dagda to appear in the story, but that fricker just appeared at the very end just to kill of main character. Michael Murkock's Chronicles of Corum
If you're trying to avoid spoilers and you get spoiled, that definitively does not increase enjoyment. This only applies to media you didn't particularly care about being spoiled on to begin with and that's pretty obvious that learning an intriguing plot point of something you didn't really care about might make you more interested in it.
I'm going to guess this is what actually happened in the study but pre-existing interest is not something you can control for in a test like this, so all it tells us is that spoilers make you more interested in something you weren't already interested in.
There are a few games I've played *because* they were spoiled for me and the spoilers sounded so interesting I had to see how the story got there and experience it for myself.
In hindsight, I can't think of which game.that was. Maybe Drakengard. And I would also say that 99% of the time this is not the case. Games writing is so tepid and lacks and backbone so whatever spoilers may exist won't exactly rouse nor dampen my enthusiasm.
Depends on the game. Something relatively obscure and niche and you can just avoid topics. Big-dick releases and you have to avoid Ganker or video game places in entirety. I can't think of the last snape kills dumbledore situation for a huge-dick-media-extravaganza except maybe the last avengers movie for capefans.
Spoilers are kind of a minefield, and if I truly care about being unspoiled I'll take an internet sabbatical until I clear the game in question. But I'll also admit that sometimes after getting spoiled on something I'm relieved I didn't have to make a twenty-hour investment before getting to something that disappointing.
If a game is good enough you forget spoilers, I heard a pretty big spoiler for Automata and was very bummed but kept playing and completely forgot and the twist hit me like a brick.
yes, you lack self awareness, and when confronted with it, it happens to be a result you didnt expect, because you've never actually stepped back to reflect and think.
>it's only a spoiler if it's the interesting part of a story >"hearing about the interesting part of a story makes you more interested in a story"
Holy frick, stop the presses
if knowing a spoiler ruins the story, the story was not good. this single piece of information cannot outweigh the character development, emotion, suspense and atmosphere of the entirety of the work.
Except that single piece of information can completely recontextualize all that "important" stuff, and the value of everything you listed can go from untennable to great through that recontextualization.
You're correct for spoilers like "darth vader is luke's father", but completely wrong for spoilers like "you were the cat".
That's all well and good but you can still reflect on all of that after you've watched something for the first time which is an experience that you will never get back. I just finished watching The Sopranos and no, I didn't hop on a bandwagon as I already had plans on doing it before Sopranos posting became strangely common for these past few weeks and the many deaths would have hit harder had I disciplined myself. Good shit though and would gladly erase my memory of it to experience it again, spoiled or not.
This "research" sounds shady considering how many people can't stand spoilers. But for me spoilers were never a problem.
If I see a spoiler and it's something that sounds cool than I will look forward to experience that moment for myself. If if see a spoiler and it sounds like something I'd absolutely hate, then I'd drop that game and will think that I've dodged the bullet.
Only idiots can be convinced that they have been spoiled, since you can't know if spoilers are true until you experience the material yourself. If you find out spoiler was true first-hand, then it doesn't even matter because you just learned it yourself in the present.
Bullshit, even if you don't know if it's true, you're no longer wondering what will happen next, you're expecting a specific outcome to become true or not true based on that information that was given.
I was spoiled about Zelda, but when Deltarune comes out, I stay off of Ganker until I'm done with my routes.
>even if you don't know if it's true, you're no longer wondering what will happen next
My point exactly, you have to be a gullible emotional moron that can't think for themself to let something they don't even know destroy their drive.
He's not wrong.
For example: Your pawn dies at the end of Dragon's Dogma 2 to save the player's life.
Do you believe me? How do you know if I'm telling the truth?
You'll have to play and find out, and you'll only know that I spoiled you when it actually happens in game. Which is, coincidentally, the exact moment you would have learned that happens even if you weren't spoiled.
No but if you're in a thread after the game comes out and a homie goes >Damn tho I wish the pawn didnt die at the end
He probably said that because the pawn dies and that's what he's talking about. People (usually) don't drop fake spoilers as part of casual discussion.
oh no mommy help i know how the story ends
that also means i now know every single story beat for the 20+ hours of gameplay now
i'm totally not just a gigantic b***h who wants any reason possible to throw a crybaby shitfit
You know how it ends, everything usually builds up to the ending of a game or big moments, so it loses suspense and impact.
oh no mommy help i know how the story ends
that also means i now know every single story beat for the 20+ hours of gameplay now
i'm totally not just a gigantic b***h who wants any reason possible to throw a crybaby shitfit
Depends. For some games it doesnt matter but for others it can make the experience a bit worse. Like your told that X dies so you play the whole game knowing this dude is gonna die. Though it could also be a sort of test. Does knowing the outcome of something make the whole experience pointless or just really bad. Like in that frickin ice and fire shit that people love. If I told you who gets the iron throne in the end or whatever does that make the entire experience of the boos pointless and not worth reading now?
>there is no such thing as a spoiler.
knowing some simple information and having an experience are two separate things unrelated to each other. if your brain cant differentiate that, then you have a flawed, subhuman brain. if you think that knowing something "ruins" it, then you're moronic. also if knowing something "ruins" it, then it was never good in the first place, because any replay of it would be "ruined". anyone who complains about spoilers is a drooling moron with inferior mental faculties.
Post the actual study. I strongly suspect it's the usual bullshit where the majority (as little as 51%) showed a minor boost in interest after being spoiled then blown out of proportion by journos like they always do.
I'm not a spoilerphobe. I've noticed that the worse the story is, the more deranged people get when it comes to keeping everything under wraps so that you waste your time and money on it (such as Undertale). A good story would still be enjoyable even if you got spoiled. Besides, I wanna see how the story unfolded to get to that point. Why homosexualface McGee is the final boss and getting to kick his ass myself. Also most people troll the spoiler fans by posting fake ones so sometimes it's hard to tell what's real and what's fake if the story's plot is batshit insane enough.
For video games, i don't really care about the story. It's just an excuse to do cool stuff and visiting awesome locations. I spend more time exploring world of fallout 3 , then doing quests.
Honestly I can't be bothered to check out damn near anything unless someone gives me a spoiler that makes me interested in seeing whatever it is happen.
I have no idea how to change your brain but like I always NEEDED spoilers to enjoy anything. When I read books as a kid I'd always read the last 20 pages of a book before the rest. I'd always read the entire primas strategy guide before I played a game. And when I got the internet I'd always look up EVERYTHING about games, books, movies and TV shows before I consumed them.
They don't make me enjoy it more, but a few don't kill my interest for whatever it is.
Not because the spoiler itself is ok, but because 95% of the time, the person doing the spoiling is an unimaginative homosexual who doesn't capture anything of the context, essence, impact, etc of what he's spoiling anyway. So his reciting a small fact literally doesn't matter - the substance and soul is still waiting to be experienced.
I think this depends on what’s being spoiled. People complained about yakuza intros having spoilers but they’re completely out of context and just in there to get you hyped up to play the game. Sure afterwards you can think oh wow they just showed you everything but it’s not a big deal. Same thing with the new broly movie. they ‘spoiled’ gogeta being in it, but knowing he was going to make an appearance made me want to watch it even more.
However if knowing a twist or what’s going to happen diminishes the entire product for you then it wasn’t very good to begin with. I knew the character in the sixth sense was dead all along but it didn’t ruin the movie for me when I watched it
Women enjoy spoilers because they don't have to give their undivided attention to the screen and can just browse their phones whenever two people aren't having sex or insinuating that they want to have sex.
Of course they do thats why I usually stay off Ganker whenever something is close to releasing. That being said if your a person that gets mad at spoilers at a piece of media thats been out for Years and years your a moron.
aww frick zanzibart the forgivening is coming out now I have to leave
just have early onset dimentia
I usually avoid spoilers for games I'm interested in like the plague, but often enough I accidentally read a spoiler for a game that I didn't care about that was so interesting I had to play it.
I'm far more interested in how the story got to the spoiler than the spoiler itself.
Based deranged bro. I too sometimes read last page of a book way before the book ends. Once, fricking Dagda of all people came and killed main character of a book. I kept waiting for Dagda to appear in the story, but that fricker just appeared at the very end just to kill of main character. Michael Murkock's Chronicles of Corum
wow what an intellectual take
please impregnate me
If you're trying to avoid spoilers and you get spoiled, that definitively does not increase enjoyment. This only applies to media you didn't particularly care about being spoiled on to begin with and that's pretty obvious that learning an intriguing plot point of something you didn't really care about might make you more interested in it.
I'm going to guess this is what actually happened in the study but pre-existing interest is not something you can control for in a test like this, so all it tells us is that spoilers make you more interested in something you weren't already interested in.
There are a few games I've played *because* they were spoiled for me and the spoilers sounded so interesting I had to see how the story got there and experience it for myself.
In hindsight, I can't think of which game.that was. Maybe Drakengard. And I would also say that 99% of the time this is not the case. Games writing is so tepid and lacks and backbone so whatever spoilers may exist won't exactly rouse nor dampen my enthusiasm.
how hard is it avoid spoilers? i just avoid threads around release time nad havent been spoiled once. i dont even buy them around release time either.
Depends on the game. Something relatively obscure and niche and you can just avoid topics. Big-dick releases and you have to avoid Ganker or video game places in entirety. I can't think of the last snape kills dumbledore situation for a huge-dick-media-extravaganza except maybe the last avengers movie for capefans.
do you avoid youtube? because you can bet on the algorithm pushing some zoomers video with heavy spoilers in the thumbnail or title
frick
MOMMY NO
Spoilers are kind of a minefield, and if I truly care about being unspoiled I'll take an internet sabbatical until I clear the game in question. But I'll also admit that sometimes after getting spoiled on something I'm relieved I didn't have to make a twenty-hour investment before getting to something that disappointing.
If a game is good enough you forget spoilers, I heard a pretty big spoiler for Automata and was very bummed but kept playing and completely forgot and the twist hit me like a brick.
>research shows that this is how you feel.
yes, you lack self awareness, and when confronted with it, it happens to be a result you didnt expect, because you've never actually stepped back to reflect and think.
Have you tried not being mentally moronic?
>it's only a spoiler if it's the interesting part of a story
>"hearing about the interesting part of a story makes you more interested in a story"
Holy frick, stop the presses
if knowing a spoiler ruins the story, the story was not good. this single piece of information cannot outweigh the character development, emotion, suspense and atmosphere of the entirety of the work.
spoilers dont matter.
Except that single piece of information can completely recontextualize all that "important" stuff, and the value of everything you listed can go from untennable to great through that recontextualization.
You're correct for spoilers like "darth vader is luke's father", but completely wrong for spoilers like "you were the cat".
That's all well and good but you can still reflect on all of that after you've watched something for the first time which is an experience that you will never get back. I just finished watching The Sopranos and no, I didn't hop on a bandwagon as I already had plans on doing it before Sopranos posting became strangely common for these past few weeks and the many deaths would have hit harder had I disciplined myself. Good shit though and would gladly erase my memory of it to experience it again, spoiled or not.
Spoilers make the game better most of the time
This "research" sounds shady considering how many people can't stand spoilers. But for me spoilers were never a problem.
If I see a spoiler and it's something that sounds cool than I will look forward to experience that moment for myself. If if see a spoiler and it sounds like something I'd absolutely hate, then I'd drop that game and will think that I've dodged the bullet.
Plotgays dumb as hell.
Almost as bad as contentBlack folk.
I don't get it.
I enjoyed Persona 4 more knowing that Adachi was based and tvpilled, thanks Ganker
Only idiots can be convinced that they have been spoiled, since you can't know if spoilers are true until you experience the material yourself. If you find out spoiler was true first-hand, then it doesn't even matter because you just learned it yourself in the present.
Bullshit, even if you don't know if it's true, you're no longer wondering what will happen next, you're expecting a specific outcome to become true or not true based on that information that was given.
I was spoiled about Zelda, but when Deltarune comes out, I stay off of Ganker until I'm done with my routes.
>even if you don't know if it's true, you're no longer wondering what will happen next
My point exactly, you have to be a gullible emotional moron that can't think for themself to let something they don't even know destroy their drive.
This is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read
He's not wrong.
For example: Your pawn dies at the end of Dragon's Dogma 2 to save the player's life.
Do you believe me? How do you know if I'm telling the truth?
You'll have to play and find out, and you'll only know that I spoiled you when it actually happens in game. Which is, coincidentally, the exact moment you would have learned that happens even if you weren't spoiled.
How can I really know once I see it in-game? How do I know I'm not just a brain in a jar being stimulated with electrodes?
No but if you're in a thread after the game comes out and a homie goes
>Damn tho I wish the pawn didnt die at the end
He probably said that because the pawn dies and that's what he's talking about. People (usually) don't drop fake spoilers as part of casual discussion.
>studies say
>experts claim
YOU STILL FALL FOR THIS SHIT?!?!! HOW DUMB ARE YOU?!
>click link
>click sources
>read the study it quoted
>repeat the experiment myself
>same conclusion as the headline
Huh? What did I fall for?
Another article written by an idiot saying something no one believes or likes for clicks.
Journey not destination
Destination affects journey
You are a Reddit homosexual with shit taste. If spoilers ruin your tv show, game or whatever then it is shit to begin with.
You know how it ends, everything usually builds up to the ending of a game or big moments, so it loses suspense and impact.
They don't bother me because i don't get excitement out anything i play
oh no mommy help i know how the story ends
that also means i now know every single story beat for the 20+ hours of gameplay now
i'm totally not just a gigantic b***h who wants any reason possible to throw a crybaby shitfit
I mean once you know how it ends, depending on the spoiler, everything before can become completely predictable.
you don't, but they matter less because you know how it all plays out in the ends
Depends. For some games it doesnt matter but for others it can make the experience a bit worse. Like your told that X dies so you play the whole game knowing this dude is gonna die. Though it could also be a sort of test. Does knowing the outcome of something make the whole experience pointless or just really bad. Like in that frickin ice and fire shit that people love. If I told you who gets the iron throne in the end or whatever does that make the entire experience of the boos pointless and not worth reading now?
Sometimes I wish I had listened to spoilers, could have saved money and heartache.
>there is no such thing as a spoiler.
knowing some simple information and having an experience are two separate things unrelated to each other. if your brain cant differentiate that, then you have a flawed, subhuman brain. if you think that knowing something "ruins" it, then you're moronic. also if knowing something "ruins" it, then it was never good in the first place, because any replay of it would be "ruined". anyone who complains about spoilers is a drooling moron with inferior mental faculties.
They don't make me enjoy stories more. Fricking bullshit.
Post the actual study. I strongly suspect it's the usual bullshit where the majority (as little as 51%) showed a minor boost in interest after being spoiled then blown out of proportion by journos like they always do.
I'm not a spoilerphobe. I've noticed that the worse the story is, the more deranged people get when it comes to keeping everything under wraps so that you waste your time and money on it (such as Undertale). A good story would still be enjoyable even if you got spoiled. Besides, I wanna see how the story unfolded to get to that point. Why homosexualface McGee is the final boss and getting to kick his ass myself. Also most people troll the spoiler fans by posting fake ones so sometimes it's hard to tell what's real and what's fake if the story's plot is batshit insane enough.
For video games, i don't really care about the story. It's just an excuse to do cool stuff and visiting awesome locations. I spend more time exploring world of fallout 3 , then doing quests.
Honestly I can't be bothered to check out damn near anything unless someone gives me a spoiler that makes me interested in seeing whatever it is happen.
Nethack is more enjoyable with spoilers, that's about it.
I have no idea how to change your brain but like I always NEEDED spoilers to enjoy anything. When I read books as a kid I'd always read the last 20 pages of a book before the rest. I'd always read the entire primas strategy guide before I played a game. And when I got the internet I'd always look up EVERYTHING about games, books, movies and TV shows before I consumed them.
I was like that as a kid, I'd know the story and characters and stuff of a game or tv show practically in and out before I ever played or watched it.
But I grew out of it I guess. It's more fun to go into things blind and be surprised.
They don't make me enjoy it more, but a few don't kill my interest for whatever it is.
Not because the spoiler itself is ok, but because 95% of the time, the person doing the spoiling is an unimaginative homosexual who doesn't capture anything of the context, essence, impact, etc of what he's spoiling anyway. So his reciting a small fact literally doesn't matter - the substance and soul is still waiting to be experienced.
I think this depends on what’s being spoiled. People complained about yakuza intros having spoilers but they’re completely out of context and just in there to get you hyped up to play the game. Sure afterwards you can think oh wow they just showed you everything but it’s not a big deal. Same thing with the new broly movie. they ‘spoiled’ gogeta being in it, but knowing he was going to make an appearance made me want to watch it even more.
However if knowing a twist or what’s going to happen diminishes the entire product for you then it wasn’t very good to begin with. I knew the character in the sixth sense was dead all along but it didn’t ruin the movie for me when I watched it
It makes me want to see how it goes down sometimes
I care about the game itself.
Fun fact: roman plays would spoil the story right at the start, the audiences still enjoyed watching the story unfold.
Depends, I avoided the internet for a week when my copy of Metroid Dread came in late.
Women enjoy spoilers because they don't have to give their undivided attention to the screen and can just browse their phones whenever two people aren't having sex or insinuating that they want to have sex.
There is a certain tranquility in not having to care how something turns out because you already know.
I think spoilers appeal to the people too stupid or too lazy to actively try to foresee where the plot is going as they watch or read something.