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If it actually becomes competent I don't care, frick artists, bunch of up their asses homosexuals.
Till then, I'll prefer fapping to """real""" art, since it's more attractive.
>"""real""" art
I get where you're coming from. People start fuming when you say AI art (which it isn't btw), but that's because the meaning of the word "art" has been battered and diluded into nothingness: some Black person makes some shitty half assed coom character and it's called art.
schizo moron. art is art.
Indeed, xister! Those chuddies will never understand that everything is art because... Well, it just is.
You're making a fool of yourself, but it's still art. It's just shitty. No one ever pretended otherwise except for those that use this "artworks" to launder money. But just because something is shitty it doesn't cease being the thing. Same way you haven't ceased being a human despite being shit at it.
I make art in the shower every time
however the plumbers may not appreciate it
but that's just because they're sexist racists
Art hasn't existed since Monet.
So A.I art IS art. Thanks for conceding, chud.
>artists drawing technically impressive but artistically uninspired pin-up coom paintings going suicidal
>grade school technique but SOVLfully inspired art is unscathed
It's more than a silver lining. Artists now have to get off their ass and think more before putting pen to paper if they want to compete.
Your post (with some word changes) could be straight out of a 1910's hand written letter to the national gallery. "what is art?" is at least recorded over a century old now and I don't think there's an answer.
this is because in english you can use the word "art" to refer to a painting or drawing instead of having to use those words. A statue is a statue, a movie a movie, a book a book, but a painting is art. If this wasn't a thing and people said painting like half the chimp shitflinging about this would vanish because people would be able to easily verbally distinguish between paintings (art) vs AI paintings (not art). Instead of the current art (art) vs AI """art""" (not art) which is clumsy and sounds moronic.
And yeah not all painting are art just like not all movies or books or statues are art. If artgays accepted this a long time ago the other half of the current bullshit would have been averted.
you people are fricking deranged
you're a homosexual
I can tell you that SFM animations of a vidya girl doing it with an animal aren't art
marvels' lates capeslop isn't art
a statue of wonder woman flashing her panties isn't art
the phone number compendium book isn't art
Yes but you can't express why any of that stuff isn't art.
here's a simple rule of thumb for you
was it made with the intent of being art?
cause that animal fricker image was made to get you cumming
the marvel movie was made to have mass market appeal, make money, and promote ethnic diversity
the statuette was made to make money by getting you hard
and the phone book was made to hold information
>only things I like are art
same lol
whats going on with her left eye and right ear?
>was it made with the intent of being art?
I wouldn't know unless I talked with the creator about it.
>cause that animal fricker image was made to get you cumming
>the marvel movie was made to have mass market appeal, make money, and promote ethnic diversity
>the statuette was made to make money by getting you hard
That doesn't mean that there wasn't any artist intent involved.
Just intent huh? Lol
I really think you'll find you have nothing new to add to the conversation anon.
Here's someone from 1917 with a retort to your definition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)
>just
>definition
is it really that hard to have basic reading skills?
the words "rule of thumb" were in the first sentence of that post.
>I wouldn't know unless I talked with the creator about it.
you can usually tell.
>doesn't mean that there wasn't any artist intent involved.
too bad it was wasted on an end result that isn't art.
>you can usually tell.
No all you can do is guess.
>too bad it was wasted on an end result that isn't art.
It is art.
Yeah your rule of thumb is retarted because some furry can just think what they're making is "art" and suddenly it's art.
You can't even approach deciding what art is without being wrong, you're arguing with people who were trying to figure this out before your grandparents were born.
it's pointless
if some furry is mentally ill enough to think two dogs fricking is high art then whatever fricked up shit he produces will certainly be art.
>all you can do is guess.
no, no you can tell
>It is art.
yeah, keep telling yourself that while jerking it to AI-generated hentai and watching Thor 5. You're actually a connoisseur of the arts.
>no, no you can tell
No you can't.
>yeah, keep telling yourself that while jerking it to AI-generated hentai and watching Thor 5.
You keep making this argument that if something is not high art it's not art but that's simply not the case.
>You're actually a connoisseur of the arts.
Who said anything about being a connoisseur?
Man you just dont get it at all, like you're not internalising anything being said to you.
no I just think you're wrong and a gay
>everything can be art
hippie
can be art
Kinda, it's more like "art has no standards ".
When you view the art scene of the 20th century as artists just shitposting on each other to make a point, it makes a whole lot of sense.
Now they just shitpost because shit gets them going. Sometimes literally.
Nah the shitposting just has to get more obscure and esoteric because everything is a reaction to everything else so we're hundreds of levels deep now, to the point where if a piece's meaning is "war bad" or whatever it's looked upon as boring and done to death.
when people say "modern artists just sit around eating poo" (and even if they do) you're missing the context of all the layers of what got them to that point.
That's a terrible rule of thumb considering a lot of great pieces in museums and galleries were just some emperor/religious dude commissioning something with the artist just in it for a paycheck
not to mention that ancient societies didn't really have a culture of doing things just for "art" and a lot of art pieces were made solely for worship.
Try to define what "art" is, go ahead, you'll immediately understand why the centuries of debate exist
>the centuries of debate
that a lot of debate!
The reason people have difficulty defining art is because they define it by the people looking at it, the people "consuming" it. They don't value the person making it, they only care about how it affects them, not to mention it ended up being used by members of high society as a tool to elevate themselves further pretending to be cultured and look better in front of others.
Art is defined by the person making it. Art is a person's mind put on a canvas, or some other form if you think of the word in a general sense. It's one expressing themselves in a way words could never possibly give, with the act of creating which itself gives a feeling of purpose, fulfillment and freedom like nothing else.
Art is the act someone creating such a piece for the sake of creating it, what is done AFTER the fact with it(showing to other people, selling it because you have to frickin eat etc.) is a different matter and doesn't change what it is. Thing is most people that aren't artistically inclined wouldn't accept that definition because they'd simply say
>What do I care if it makes the artist feel free and fulfilled, we care about what role it has in society and how it makes US feel
So they want a definition based on the people consuming it, which would naturally be a problem because everybody is different from each other and everybody has different reactions from one thing.
>Art is defined by the person making it.
You're so wrong, it's kinda sad.
And you're so dumb it's pitiful. What you posted does not disprove my point, but I would doubt you even read the entire post.
definitions are created and uphelp by the sheer number of people using the definition.
whether the artist says their creation is "art" or not or any of the other long winded shit you said has no bearing on whether other people will declare it is or not.
there also exists "art" where the creator did not believe they were doing anything especially grand or good or even any effort at all and people claim it is art, the converse is also true.
like every definition of art ever, yours doesn't work either.
Art is inherently about Human expression which is why the less emotion something has, the less it expresses, the less "artsy" it becomes. The nature of art is even if a human creating something isn't actively aiming to express something, they will still leave their own imprint just as a result, like a person trying to hide their emotions but still showing what they feel in the tremble of their voice.
This is what makes the difference between a human producing derivative works and just copying what exists and an AI doing the same.
A human will inevitably leave his ever so slight imprint even if actually aiming to copy something. Over time this means that what is currently popular in art will start to shift and evolve, iterate upon what's there or try to put a spin on it.
Meanwhile AI image creation can only amalgamate what is already there and not add anything "original" to it. The artistic value is only as a result from the input data and over time AI feeding onto itself will slowly decay as each iteration away from human artworks will substract the original human element of the training data and only leave meaningless noise behind.
It's better for everyone when the definitions for "art" are kept loose.
The mistake you're making is that you want to be able to classify all art as "good" without scrutiny. That's fricking moronic, Anon. Art can be bad. Most art is bad. We as thinking apes need to use our brains to separate the good art from the bad.
You deserve your dystopian hellscape. Don't say we didn't warn you, moron fricking homosexual
>AI art
it is art everything is
??? what a moronic post. Art has nothing to do with quality. You people are legit 80 IQ mongoloids.
>Art has nothing to do with quality
Not modern art, that's for sure. Man, how can you art Black folk denounce AI slop when you're the main slop consumers of this era?
Art can be of high or low value. Coom art has low value due to its subject (and the level of the artist), AI art has low value due to its process : it's a Frankenstein of real art with no thought behind.
Indians make these posts
>talks about his wiener
yeah as expected from the likes oy (you)
lma0 there is, one is bad the others are worse and unskilled
There are tiny brained 'jeets here who think it's already competent. They think you're lying when you tell them you saw the OP image and immediately clocked it as AIshit. They literally can not discern quality.
I feel bad for the artists.
I don't necessarily respect most of them, but the fact of the matter is that I do respect the broad concept of doing work that's creative instead of just being in a corporate rat race forever.
When these people are closed off from being able to make a living, the world just gets darker and shittier and less creative.
That being said, progress is just going to keep marching forward no matter what. There's really no choice but to cope and hope that the good will outweigh the bad.
>posts VN
It could be interesting. Maybe it'd make procedural generation suck less.
i cant wait for ai to start making good 3d models
>was cropped out
>outline is shittily erased
>artifact near the head
brown thread
This looks ugly.
>terrible proportions
>arms don't fit the rest of the body
>right bicep is overtaking the elbow
>face is a different color from the rest of the body
>mouth opened awkwardly
>cameltoe is too pronounced, looks fake
>oddly shaped thighs
>both breasts shaped completely differently, look plastic
>lighting/shading makes no sense
>left thumb has a claw sticking out of it
and that's just the top of my head, as a non-artist
there's probably 100 other fricked up things I didn't notice
this tech is still years and years away from being useful for games, if ever
SEETHING artgay
If i was into muscular tomboys and fapping while playing ops game i wouldn't even notice 10% of what you mentioned.
>Muscular tomboys
that happen to be futa too btw, not gay tho xd!
Sounds like the kind of moron that would pay for a game with AI generated assets.
i am into muscular tomboys and i noticed everything that he mentioned
yea but were you fapping too?
hold on let me try again
Half of what you said isn't even true while the other half are minor problems.
Bro, you'll have to find a real job at some point. The clock's ticking.
No one gives a frick, artgay moron.
The question is: is the art fappable? Simple as.
>both breasts shaped completely differently, look plastic
real breasts are not completely identical to each other slapnuts so it's the opposite
This person's right. Just look at the proportions of the arms and shoulders. It's totally off.
It's fine to be against AI but when you do nitpicky shit like this you're only hurting your cause by making it seem like your side can only grasp at straws. "Mouth opened awkwardly", are you for fricking real?
Exactly, those are Man Arms. Even Girls that work on Farms dont have such Arms
THIS. Tbh liking buff Grils means you are scared to admit that you are liking Guys in secret, its not that hard to understand. You miss your Dad and now you search for his strong arms by simping for buff Girls its really nasty and sick
Why do you homosexuals always project your own gay fantasies when someone likes musclegirls?
Kek at all the sseething underage failed drawgay zoomers getting mad at this post
He's absolutely right. The shit in the OP looks straight out of some shitty anime girl dress-up game from the 2000's.
He's not right and he's desperately reaching to find things to complain about.
>The shit in the OP looks straight out of some shitty anime girl dress-up game from the 2000's.
You're very obviously too young to remember anything from the 2000's, you most likely weren't even born yet.
and still better than 98% of all digital artists.
>chink meme
wienerroach spotted.
>just the top of my head, as a non-artist
you're fooling nobody homosexual
They hated him because he told the truth.
>and that's just the top of my head, as a non-artist
lmao
Just sad.
I mean it's ai and all, but it's no worse than DLsite trash, not to mention WEG Daz gabbos.
kek
Nice fingers homosexual.
Just read the news.
>india#2
yeah obsessed schizos
is too pronounced, looks fake
Are you going to complain about the oversized eyes or the lack of detail on the teeth next? You fricking sperg
You are correct about the thumb and face color and that’s it
Its not a claw, its the pinking with bad shading
>all those seething replies from failed artgay
based, AIsloppers stay losing
Lmao look at all these seething AIshitters replying in anger because they’re too fragile to handle critique
As someone who has downloaded 1000+ koikatsu cards and scenes, body proportions are literally just a matter of taste, especially when sexualized.
So it's just moronic to try and blame AI here, when you're actually blaming the prompter's fetish.
Ahh that reminds me,I haven't checked in months about any paywall gay leaks
I like AI as a toy so I don't have to pay artists for my stupid shitposts or custom shit, but I don't think it's quite ready for commercial products. I also doubt most companies are as autistic as I am when it comes to prompting, img2imging, and inpainting shit as I am when it comes to designing my Yuffie dakis.
>but I don't think it's quite ready for commercial products
WOTC apparently does...
>wotc thinks
wotc would sell a KKK lynching, baby decapitation, monkey torture secret lair if they thought it was socially acceptable
It's not like the blurred photos they usually use for VN backgrounds had any soul to begin with
Op pic is shit in that regard, but when someone competent does them it becomes a selling point too, look at everlasting summer, background art is beautiful and he got hired by some anime studio or people who makes fate or something
i'm fine with it as long as it only uses the random ChatGPT dialogue
proven fake btw
>source: dude trust me
>still seething after moving the goalposts to outer space then abandoning the thread
lol
>still mad
>doesn't realize what upscaling means in the context of the 4 tiny pictures generated
You have seethed for 2 years, isn't it time to let it go?
cope
holy frick the seething
>Ganker contrarians call a crayon drawing sovl in retaliation to ai
>Ganker contrarians will also say ai is flawless
>MOGGED
I hate zoomers so much.
Can someone post the original thread?
the number is right there just go to it. it's fricking hilarious though. they kept backpedaling and changing goalposts until finally just disappearing.
Not archived
Its from /ic/ not v.
/ic/ doesn't have 9-digit post numbers in 2022, let alone 2024. They are still at 7 digits.
Yes it is.
>if using ai to make art makes you an artist then using a calculator makes you a mathematician
Wow someone cracked the code.
It's obviously Ganker newbies. ic isn't even a blue board
Ganker is at 8 digits, the posts are 9 digits
It's 100% Ganker
Holy frick btfo
Anime art style is so primitive AI art is virtually indistinguishable from real sweaty japanese nerd drawings
In other words, a good fit
i will personally boycott any game movie cartoon or comic where ai has replaced a human in any capacity
death to all robots
it's a tool like any other, but people are putting WAY too much trust in something that's still too primitive at this point
In the near future millions of morons will buy some AAA games at $70, despite that it cost half as much to make thanks to AI.
peak soulless
AI art almost all looks the same and AI "artists" are just as homosexual as "real" artists except with an even bigger chip on their shoulder.
VNs are not games
>Short hair
>Abs
>Brown
BASED
it is literally impossible for your tastes to be more generic
sorry, im not a pedo like you
>xitter tier projection
have a nice day
His tastes are the Gankeralgorithm
it is literally impossible for your tastes to be more based
If it's coding sure. Hey Ai take this decompiled souce of zelda link's awakening and make a master system port.
I do not care, SIR!
game?
>Ooh no! we are gonna get shot by the gunship!
>Quick! the tunnel!
>("Please no more, that's 15 cars already")
uh oh here comes the truck
Tongue it is then.
please for the love of god tell me this is netorare plEASE THERE ARE ZERO GOOD NETORARE GAMES THIS YEAR
It's called gacha, you cuck yourself out of playing an actually good game.
Now “developers” will actually have to develop their games
You know, AI reminds how guns eventually killed medieval warfare, Pandora's box has been opened for better pr for worse
It's great.
OP's pic sucks though, go flip through /hdg/
to see what anons are baking recently, the best prooompters are rapidly approaching top tier coom artists.
With those fricked up hands, arms and legs? You and they are fooling themselves.
I don't give a frick, as long as the art looks good. Right now, it doesn't. 99% of the AI art used right now looks like the same generic slop.
Alternatively, if the writing were really good then I would be able to overlook the subpar art. Unfortunately everyone using AI art in games right now is just doing it to cut corners and make a quick buck, so their stories are god awful. Even worse than the art.
>go flip through /hdg/
>Everything is Chronenberg Horror shit
>Dicks Breasts arms legs melting into each other
>Clumped Feet
>Six fingers
Yeah no, thank you.
It will get more advanced and better.
this is legitimately one of the scariest things imaginable
It already has gotten better but some of you homosexuals are too lazy to even inpaint or too incompetent to notice the huge flaws.
AI doesn't quite get the weird niche artists I enjoy. Which is fine since they do tons of shit that caters to me regardless so I'm happy
>anti-AI luddite homosexual not resorting to extreme hyperbole to disparage AI generated images challenge: impossible
The problem with AI art is normies.
It could be used as a tool if normies had standard, but these disgusting creatures can literally not tell 2d animation from 3d, digital from film, a 10/10 masterpiece from a low budget flick, or pay attention for more than 30 sec bursts.
They will gobble up anything thrown at them with no regards or understanding for quality. Ai won't be use to create new beautiful work that pushes boundaries, it will be used to satiate the normies glutenous appetite from mediocre schlock.
That's why it's shit.
>Biggest AI shills are on this site
Are you telling me Gankerners are just normies?
Ganker is made up of 2 groups, people who are genuinely too mentally moronic to fit in with the status quo, and people who have nothing more to learn from the status quo.
The internet has normies.
We're just a more moronic microcosm of the internet.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Ganker Ganker opinions can simply be ignored, just like people here were wrong about BG3.
AI shill threads are a tiny circlejerk, meanwhile people out there are desperate for a way to filter AI shit from their internet, shit is like the new pop-up.
I was imagining how much money one would make if someone invented the first functioning AIblocker.
AIblocker would be such a fricking obvious thing, why didn't anyone make one yet is baffling.
I've seen AI patreons that make thousands, when it comes to porn there's a low bar. And with AI? I guess it's in a weird spot, it's not well known, and even though people could they would rather pay for the output rather than learn how to use the ai themselves
Feels great since Daggerfall and Dwarf Fortress are in my top 5.
Whats the best way to make a brown tomboy? Just Chie from P4 but brown and abs?
I just want people to lose their jobs so the economy crashes and everyone can be as poor and miserable as I am.
Lots of failed artists seething at ai lately
>tranimals
>chadnimals
>le epic chadinmals
no sars, not needful.
Nooo I am not indian noooo
KING
cute
you would too if your livelihood was threatened.
i'm a codemonkey, for the time being i'm safe but it will come a day when i'm getting replaced by an ai.
What is the coding equivalent of a 6-fingered hand?
if else
>failed artists
just say artists, 90% of them never earn enough to make a living with their art
>How do you feel about tools being used to make things?
I think I don't care what's used so long as the end product is good.
Blame moronic anglos who use the word "art" instead of "drawing" or "painting"
>admits brownskins are too dumb to create, let alone learn concepts and words
GOOD MORNING SIRS
>How do you feel about AI being used in the making of video games?
I only buy video games and gaming peripherals or systems that are over a decade old because everything made in the last ten years is either stale reboots/remakes/franchises or diversity hired bland crap
If we're talking about Hgames, half are already extremely low quality art. Maybe the AIslop will make some coomable. I don't think so though honestly. I've noticed that AI coom art is really generic and sucks at making fetish stuff or anything specific. Maybe just not enough in the algorithim? It won't really help the dev with no artists since you'll still have to higher an artist to make the results coomable. I'd say it will only help VNs, since they're mostly single panals/portraits (also the worst hgame genre).
Like with all AIslop, there's no reason to care, as a consoomer, until its good. Which it isn't yet.
why is the anime girl named john?
I'm not against the idea of it per-se, but I simply do not trust the people to not spam the market with absolute dogshit games with zero quality control, and there simply are not systems in place to meaningfully curate a never-ending deluge. AI-generated assets and code are going to make everything worse until we figure out how to deal with it, and there's no telling how long that will take.
I feel contempt for the creators just for the fact that sites like fanza and dlsite have filled with it making finding new things really difficult if you're looking for something that is actually self drawn.
beats bad art
>This thread every day
Do you enjoy people calling eachother luddites and pajeets that much?
Are you discord troons actually getting paid for this?
I'm all for it.
I would rather play games with programmer art before I ever touch asset flip games and ai games. I have taste and standards and my standards haven't suddenly changed with the emergence of aislop. Good art and stylish visuals made by real passionate artists can be a selling point for a game but those games have always been few and far between
If you aren't willing to pay someone to make it, don't expect me to pay you for it either.
>How do you feel about AI
Soulless.
>Soulless.
Yet artist sell their souls for money. CURIOUS!
too many imperfections, like her right arm is unnaturally swole, her face color doesn't match her body, fingers ofc are fricked, and it just has that "AI" feel to it.. and in the end AI proopmting you're never actually in control. Even if you get extremely precise in your prompt you're still just settling for whatever the AI churns out. Which some people might not care about. But you can't create scenes that you want 'exactly' because of it. The bottom of the bucket coomers probably won't care but I can't imagine an AI game ever doing very well until AI improves even more.
I see some kanikama in this
Yup. It just made a mess with him by himself, but came together nicely when mixed with others.
her skirt is stuck to her bag lol
yeah I thought it was a real hehe moment like maybe her panties are exposed.
I inpainted and lost the original, it's just a 1girl with
>artist:dorontabi, artist:mignon, artist:healthyman, artist:kanikama
I literally don't know how faces work.
>This image contains no metadata.
what was the prompt?
her ears are coming out of her cheeks
Fine. It beats the everloving shit out of most WEG art.
This. Il take AI over thr garbage produced by weg art any day.
Summertime Saga would unironically be improved with the addition of ai art.
Those renpy wegs that are dime-a-dozen that get one or two updates and never touched again have become more numerous. I've seen one good one out of very many so whatever.
As long as they don't use that fricking art style
Doesn't seem much different from using asset store stuff
At least it produces semi-original things instead of making me see the exact same zombie model over and over
AI art is just a fun toy to make something on impulse, nothing really more than that. It's consistently improving, yes, but to think it's replacing humans completely is only the dopamine rush making you believe that will be the case.
>conveniently ignores all the instances of AI replacing artists
>It's consistently improving, yes, but to think it's replacing humans completely
It likely won't replace artists entirely, but in a few years it will be a valuable tool in most good professional artists' toolboxes.
>It likely won't replace artists entirely,
it has been
Very reasonable way of seeing it, it's a good way to get ideas and see how things could look.
I do find it odd how so many people feel the need to replace actual artists but then I realize it's a few raging autists hellbent on feeling important for the first time.
kek no it will replace them 100%
look at some of the examples posted, takes most people years of dedicated study to be able to make art like those
its sad but we're entering an era of complete creative death
and what about when there's no more professional artists coming on to the scene because art education went down the shitter. why would anyone want to actually learn anything when AI gets them 98% of the way there anyway
To get the other 2% of the way there. How is that even a question?
as a certified ideas guy I hope it makes me able to create the games I often think about
and I hope you all enjoy them
I don't care. If it's used well, then it's good that games can be made more efficiently, if it's used poorly then it sucks.
I don't understand why anyone would care more than that.
The important stuff should always be handcrafted. if I'm walking in the forest I would rather have 50 AI generated trees than see the same 3-4 trees over and over again. Background elements like books on bookshelf, I really don't imagine anyone is actually going to care that an real artist never made those.
Detalied backgrounds are great.
I used to feel iffy about it but now I fully welcome it seeing how many creators have either become cucks or c**ts with their works.
art made by ai, third worlders or woke artists are all soulless.
there's no difference
As an Artist, most of them are uppity fricking homosexuals that need to be brought down a peg, AI is good for everyone. It just needs to be refined better.
once it starts taking programmers jobs, I'll openly embrace it.
they're killing the only fun creative jobs first and in the process are destroying everything aspirational and enjoyable about the visual arts for no goddamn reason.
You have to go back to the fields goy. You will own nothing, will rent everything, and will work whatever makes use of your body that the robots can't do yet.
Enjoying your work? Creative jobs? Work life balance? Ha, not you, you are cattle, you were made to serve us. It was bad enough when you tried to work from home already. You only have yourself to blame
I don't think current AI technologies are scalable to be able to make any meaningful programs. Just from a sheer memory perspective it seems unfeasible.
I don't know what this image means anon.
a jump from 1M tokens to 1B.
I'm not an expert in AI, so I don't know exactly what that means. Aren't the tokens like the elements the AI recognizes? Or is the image the amount of tokens an AI can handle in its memory?
The issue I was talking about was the AI not being able to build a complex system, because it can't fit everything in its memory. If you have a long chain elements will be dropped or forgotten as it goes on, and you need the AI to be able to remember all of that to make it build on top of itself to make a complex system.
>Aren't the tokens like the elements the AI recognizes?
Yes, how much context it can maintain in memory when reading a prompt. 1b tokens means it will be able to write books in one shot and code much better.
Thanks for clarifying anon. If we can make that much progress this early guess I'm just really fricking wrong.
Is this "LongNet" implemented in anything yet?
>Thanks for clarifying anon. If we can make that much progress this early guess I'm just really fricking wrong.
Yes, most anti-AI people are.
>Is this "LongNet" implemented in anything yet?
It'll be a GPT-5 thing.
I'm not anti-AI though. I'm just skeptical of the doomposting on AI taking over everything in a really short amount of time.
It would be good if that happened but it probably won't. AI is progressing at an exponential rate though.
>AI is progressing at an exponential rate though.
Was. AI sort of hit a brick wall as it has basically read the entire internet for info, We aren't going to see any real larger leaps like we have. It seems like the future is going to be into making AI better understand context, then trying to feed it more massive amounts data.
Is. And this is why I called you an anti-AI moron, you tards just can't help it.
That 'aint me chief. I'm this guy
??? I'm not anti ai nor am i the guy you were replying to.
>It would be good if that happened but it probably won't
This I very much disagree on. There's been proof of concepts for like 90% of jobs for over a decade now. If we actually manage to make those proof of concepts economically viable at roughly the same time, society is fricked. We need it to be slow and spread out enough for society to adapt to each change and for us to actually build systems in society to future proof things once it becomes undeniable AI will eventually replace the entire concept of "work" as it has existed throughout human history.
it doesn't really matter how good the AI is in terms of raw specs. the issue with letting AI program is that
>current datasets are insufficient for about 90% of "casual" programming and 99% of business programming (datasets will likely continue to get even worse)
>programming requirements are highly specific and arbitrary, while AI mostly just wings it by combining patterns from different datasets
>managing a programming AI is probably going to require programming training anyway, because non-programmers simply do not grasp the various needs, threats and opportunities regarding development, and thus can't notify the AI about them
what is actually worrying is that the suits will not care and will just say "ok lay off 50% programmers, we will let AI do it", which won't properly work and will end up overworking those programmers while also destabilizing the job market. europe, japan, etc. probably won't suffer much but america is probably going to go full moron with AI, offshoring and all the other new memes just so they don't have to pay those 200k salaries to their programmers (and perhaps pulling those salaries down to more reasonable values is a good thing)
I barely give a frick about anything at this point
>renpy
just about the level of quality i expected. hope you like your soulless slop
The issues people identify in AI art are unnoticeable to you, me, and anyone else who isn't a seething autist from /ic/. It's hilarious seeing them point out the most miniscule shit as some sort of gotcha when in the end no one gives a frick about any of that when the piece as a whole looks great.
Human art is never perfect either and yet no one cares unless it obviously looks wrong to the eye at immediate glance.
I haven't kept up as much lately with other tech such as text gen or voice gen, but image generation is virtually flawless. It's absolutely braindead to not adopt it in some way. Do it like the Japanese if you really feel like it needs some personal input; provide the corrections to the image yourself.
I don't wanna hear about muh soul or slop btw. You Black folk literally cannot tell a piece made by AI or a person apart lmao.
Art for art’s sake is an empty phrase. Art for the sake of truth, art for the sake of the good and the beautiful, that is the faith I am searching for.
Literally 2/10, 3DPD.
Fricking disgusted, by the "art" and by the fricking moronic devs trying to make a quick buck with their slop
reminder that the ai tards have down syndrome
>reminder that artistards are literally getting trampled on by downies without even using a pen
you are embarassing yourself artistroony.
At some point in the distant future, it will all just lead to image related.
visual novels aren't video games by definition
how do i filter ai thread?i tried /^AI$/ but it doesnt work
ask chatgpt
most dalle images have the same resolution so you could just filter it and catch them all
doesn't do anything to stop the hobbyists who generate locally though, their proompts come in all sizes
i can see this thread exactly because OP used a different image resolution,i just need a way to filter "AI" as string
i can't imagine anybody going this far with filters but not even filtering Ganker entirely.
you are just dumb that why.anyway i found a way bye
bad regex. Try /AI/i
John has nice breasts
I'm only curious if people have cracked/worked around consistency by now. As it stands now it feels like it'd turn out like some western HRPG like Legend of Queen Opala with all the guest artists but even worse.
It's fine when used to generate assets like trees, not main assets.
It should be being used IN games, not to make them.
>It's fine when used to generate assets like trees, not main assets.
you think so?
I wanted to use ai for backgrounds so I can just draw the characters... but all the shitposting has me wearily of using ai at all.
Will not pay for anything if contains blatant AI prompted shit.
>pays for SJW trash
>if you refuse to pay for one thing that means you are paying for another
Prime slavshit logic.
not gonna buy lazy AI slop now matter how you spin it
2d is losing its ability to hold back the crushing realisation that hundreds of millions of years of animals having sex ends with me and I am objectively a failure as a living being.
I haven't bought a AAA game in 10 years.
I haven't bought a game for more than 40 bucks in 12 years.
people b***h about AI 'ruining the market' but the market has been shit, and if AAA studios start using AI, great, i still won't buy it unless it's good, and it's been over a decade since it's been good.
I've enjoyed plenty of smaller titles, and if ai lets smaller groups or individuals get more done, and it's good, I'm all for it, and if it doesn't, then nothing changes. AAA can pump out all the ai slop they want, i haven't bought it in 10 years and will continue to do so.
It's simple. You used AI, I'm not giving you money. I don't think lack of skill or effort and taking shortcuts deserve to get rewarded, especially in the current state of gaming.
Lack of skill is a silly argument. Most programmers outsourced art to artists.
Debating making a porn game. I wonder how hard the coding bits are and how much I'd need to pay for music. I'd probably have to go without voice acting, at least until the project actually makes money, but that hurts the coom factor and revenue in the first place.
Go the distance, make a porn game with an AI image generator attached so it comes up with images on the fly
I've been waiting for the first gacha like that to come out but, realistically, it would be really difficult to implement something like that. AI is not good enough yet for anyone to get anything perfect in one try and errors would be really immersion breaking.
Learning basic coding isn't too bad, just make a day with it and watch some tutorials on youtube for the basics. get a feel for it, try stuff out, have 'mini" projects you go for before your primary target, you'll learn a lot.
Basic coding isn't that hard. I haven't made anything before and started working on an advance wars clone recently. With Youtube Tutorials and ChatGPT I've been working through and learning a lot without too much difficulty. Though the prospect of making a level editor for it is still very intimidating.
Use renpy.
Use ai for ART
Use ai for MUSIC
Use ai for SFX
Use ai for WRITING
Anon tha's a sure way to make the sloppiest slop to ever slop. Just look at Steam it's already full of that garbage because it's so easy. He needs to differentiate himself in some way, not make the most generic, easy shit imaginable
honestly why not just make the sloppiest AI game possible before everyone else does?? secure the bag and then use it to fund whatever you actually want to make. too many idealists let their dreams die with them because they aren't willing to make compromises and start small.
>Just look at Steam it's already full of that garbage because it's so easy
Who cares, it pays the bills, people pay for literally everything.
>UHHHHH AI BAD OK????
Jesus wept
fricking spit out my coffee you c**t bwahaha
so true sirs
>aaa make lazy money grab games
Nooooooo gaming is dead
>Aaa start using ai slop and shat more lazy and genric games
Wawa wow gaming is healing bros, frick artgays go make some burgers
I'm just not going to buy AI slop
hahaha I'm sorry I'm sorry
I just won't buy it
>I can steal the hottest AI art and sell it as my own because AI art isn't copyrightable
Thanks for the JPEGs gays.
It has that generic A"I" artstyle that's easy to identify.
It doesn't look THAT bad.
Plus, it will only get better. In ten years this shit will probably have been perfected. I only wish AI were more accessible as a tool and shitty corporations didn't get exclusive access to it.
I think VAs should be entirely replaced by AI voice because the potential is actually already there, but we just can't frick with it yet because it's not in our hands.
its a skill issue, AI artstyle can be any artstyle. if you are good at prompting you can create anything you want.
if you were skilled, you wouldn’t be using AI to make your game, so that is irrelevant
>if you were skilled
you can use AI to leverage your skills to build bigger. thats the point.
>you can use AI to leverage your skills to build bigger. thats the point.
Kek funniest shit Ive read this week
Wheres he wrong? Thats 100% correct.
Ok post something good.
point is eventually someone will make something good with it and this technology is still at its beginnings
This might be the only place in the entire godamned internet where the possibility of using AI art in cheap slop games is still given credence by some people.
Proof we are full of morons here.
It is being shilled by pajeets who for some reason think they will get all the money by prompting
AI art is just art. It can be used well and used badly. You anti AI tards are fricking insufferable and i cant wait to see your endless seething as AI art gets even better and more prolific.
It helps that Ganker is anonymous and Ganker doesn't have flags so they can hide their turd world flags from everyone.
>AI is still in diapers
>somehow manages to surpass the skill level of arguably 70% of so-called "artists"
No shit they are shilling against it everywhere on the internet, give it 5 years and those morons will be doing mcjobs for a living.
they already are doing mcjobs AND mcblowjobs
Or unlearn copyrighted materials and see it degrade to the sad state it was in before.
>unlearn copyrighted materials
Like every human ever? This argument is so dogshit.
Human brain works in an entirely different way.
So no, Rajeesh.
No i dont think it does. Go ahead and explain why Ill wait.
>Rajeesh
Not sure where this comes from in relation to ai art. Sound a bit schizophrenic to be honest.
The way AI learns art seems to be very similar. Ive never once heard a good argument against this. This video seems too broad for what were talking about. Also
>50 minutes
Good one my dude. Just say you dont know the answer next time.
Literally just watch the first 5 minutes you braindead zoomer
>human brains arent the EXACT SAME as AI learning
No shit. Now what about art and gathering material for an artstyle? This video doesn't address anything relevant whatsoever.
It's not the same at all.
The human brain has concept of 3D, it understands how things work in the world.
AI on the other hand... It understands nothing at all. It's just a pattern recognition machine. It just uses billions, billions of artworks and basically kind of mashes them with the so called noise.
You on the other hand, you don't need millions of anime girls to understand how they exist, how they look, etc. A simple example, a human will never draw a hand with 6 or more fingers for example, like even a child will just draw 5 fingers. AI was infamous for making fricked up hands until it was fed a few more millions of hands. And it still does things no human would do.
You use reality as a basis, the machine is just looking for patterns it got. It simply doesn't have any intelligence.
Long story short, you can imagine, transform and conceptualize.
AI identifies, copies and merges.
I think a multi-billion corporation creating a commercial product based on copyrighted material and without reimbursing the original authors is a guillotine-worthy move. I like GPT/Dalle, but Microsoft should pay up, those greedy thieves.
>Laws pass to do this
>only multi billion dollar corporations can use AI, everyone else is shit out of luck because it costs too much to access
Thanks a lot homosexual.
humans can and have learned to draw through nature and geometry, not copy righted material
So AI cant learn from non copy righted material? I know this cant be the argument youre making. That makes no sense.
>humans can and have learned to draw through nature and geometry, not copy righted material
Tell that to every Japanese artist.
A fricking newspaper will rape Microsoft in courts.
A fricking newspaper.
>American israelites cripple ai for burgers.
Good.
AI only got so far because it steals from good artists you turbo mongoloid.
>steals
Like human artists.
>real artists photobash their pieces from other artists work or straight up trace the work of others
topkek have this (you)
>or straight up trace the work of others
Are you serious? They absolutely do that. You guys literally have no idea what you're talking about. Ai isnt just "photobashing" and you know this. This disingenuous shit just makes your argument weaker.
>your defective toy does not.
Seething """real""" artist. Does combining millions of things together not give some originality? All artists are inspired by someone elses art that they then "steal" from.
A"""""""""""I"""""""""""" """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""art""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" is just shit and it's incapable of creating something original because your toy is fricking moronic.
>I CONCEDE REEEEEEEEEE
>PLEASE DONT MAKE FUN OF ME PLEASEEE
OK? If you don't even have an argument just say so next time moron.
>>DONT MAKE FUN OF ME
But I want to shitjeet.
feel free to explain how it works then
Human artists add originality and differentiate themselves from the piece they stole from, your defective toy does not.
>add originality and differentiate themselves from the piece they stole
top artistroony kek
How's that latest cryptoscam going? 🙂
>steals from good artists
Good. The 70% of garbage "artists" that can't compete aren't needed if so. Let the AI learn from the best, frick the rest of you shitters.
If the AI learns from 'the best', why are the results so shit?
>best ai art in the world, perfect, better than any human artist
>best ai art in the world, perfect, better than any human artist
2nd try
>best ai art in the world, perfect, better than any human artist
3rd try
>all shit
What is this supposed to prove?
>What is this supposed to prove?
Clearly it triggers you that a machine can make these within seconds, and it upset you so much you are still seething over 14 months later.
But I understand.
I still don't care and will use ai if I want to, of course, but I do understand your anger.
>Clearly it triggers you
Nice projection.
>projection
Come back to the thread when that machine has no internet connection to steal other people's work and claim it as their own.
>no internet connection
you can run ai locally, guess that shows you how little you actually know about it
thanks for the laughs
>best ai art in the world, perfect, better than any human artist
4th
(these seem all right, not my taste, but whatever)
lmao, why would you want to steal from shit artists????
>"heh, AI's only going to affect the """boring""" jobs, creative positions such as my own will be perfectly secure for decades ;^)"
>AI becomes popular and people immediately start using it to make art, code, voice acting, etc.
>the screeching still continues to this day
you get what you fricking deserve
that artistards are literally getting trampled on by downies without even using a pen
>you are embarassing yourself artistroony.
this is cute, and kemon style is fappable
do furshitters screech about ai too?
maybe I should just embrace kemono instead, it just seems a lot more easier for ai to gen Furries, am I wrong???
what game???
Oh yes, I FRICKING LOVE tons of low-quality content made by fraudsters who desperately want easy money!
what do pajeets have to do with AI exactly?
most of them are too poor to run stuff like Stable Diffusion and Llama locally, and if anything AI's going to replace them first
Just obsessed schizos with no arguments.
running AI scams
Ganker meme, Indians are the only race you can shit on, even as a twitter liberal it seems
POO love ai
you don't love ai, do you anon, that would make you a POO
why you ask this dumb question every ai thread?ai was made and funded by indiands behind amazon funds.ai shills are literally pajeets
Indians love AI and are employed by tech companies by the thousands since they are so cheap
There's a good chance many of the people here in Ganker defending AI in broken english are Indians or Pakis. Then you get some comments like "NO THOSE ARE NOT INDIANS EATING COW DUNG THOSE ARE PAKIS REEEE" which only confirms it
The amount of shit Indians get for writing shit software is deserved. The only reason they haven't took over the world of software development with the amount of people working in tech for pennies there is because the code they write is fricking shit.
nobody likes pajeets, but blaming them instead of the actual Silicon Valley israelites is downright malicious lies, why do you want to protect Hebrews so much???
>good chance many of the people
thinking like this is gay, if you don't like what someone says you can refute their points, it's too easy (and delusional) to pretend everyone you don't like is just some Indian or paki.
Just the latest in as long line of Ganker scapegoats
>S.Korea
I'll assume it's because of their dwindling workforce.
>9th place
lol, why mention them?
Because I don't care about other shitholes that prefer it.
asiatics make their own chips, that probably has something to do it it, Samsung and all.
I can't believe France won
Muslims don't even know what AI is.
France is the last bastion of Art and actually dare to incorporate sex without being straight coomers or pure LGBT wank
First we should distinguish "what did they mean by this?" - cause AI implementation can wary. It is one thing to hope that Tesla will not kill you (this is when as a Russian I say do not trust "AI") and completely another to hope that Lancet will find and kill that Leopard 2 (in this case my hopes on AI, "get them good boy!")
It's the latest generic slide. Something going wrong you dislike? Post indian poo pics. Started around when the israelites went mask off and started genociding palestinians.
AI is a poor man's replacement to having a team of actually competent coworkers. Pajeets are broke but have a large tech-savvy population, making them the prime audience for AI works of all fields.
If they had good artists, they would not care about AI.
If they had good programmers, they would not care about AI.
If they had good writing skills, they would not care about AI.
AI feeds off good humans to guess what something good looks like, having someone who can actually make something good is better, but for people who can't afford someone else's salary, a good guess is good enough.
For the most part it's just a thought terminating word. Whenever presented with an argument or anything taht has any form of nuance, they shut their brain off and go "pajeet".
Most will come up with a hundred excuses about how there's all these great people just eager and willing to work with you, but there simply isn't. AI gets you 80% of the way to what you want, and so you either take 80% of what you want done in an instant, or you deal with seething morons that hate you and will sabotage you and rob you if you try and work with them.
For every art critic, you get someone who doesn't do art, much less will make something for you even if you paid them.
For every writing critic you get someone who doesn't write, much less will write for you even if you paid them.
You always get naysayers that will scream and cry and b***h about it, but won't even lift a finger even if you pay them to do it, so if they refuse to be paid to do what you want, and AI does it for free in 2 minutes, then why give a frick about these people? Why would you concern yourself with people who despise you and bitterly seethe over you when you can just let a machine give you a B- project you want without trying to dox you after months of ghosting you?
Basically my experience when I was working on my hobby game back in 2020 ,getting artgays to do something I paid them to do was a nightmare , and I could have sworn they mf's intentionally did flaws just so they could charge extra for a "redraw" , I went through 5 different artists and outside of one it was basically all the same,and the one didn't even bother to make anything and just ghosted me after paying.
>its all artists being butthurt!
>no its really all non-artists being irrational and mad!
Schrodingers jeet everyone!
It's both. it's sour grapes from both sides.
"The Artist" who feels threatened and the "yeah well I was going to learn how to draw in maybe like a few years I'm just so busy bro" types, and of course just your typical naysayer or hyper politicized moron luddite.
The last few threads on this topic have been people going "i don't draw but if I did I wouldn't draw for you even for 500 dollars' and then you have tumblr and twitter that scream and cry that it's all over because they "Can't compete" and that it's personally stealing their work specifically.
It's many shades of mentally ill that doesn't comprehend 98% of AI users just use it for personal reasons and to frick around or enjoy or use to spice up personal things very few other people will ever see.
Said Anti AI people also will probably seethe so hard they push the government to make copyright even more obnoxious and impossible to get around like EU's proposed "Scan any and all content uploaded for copyrighted materials" bullshit.
i think the biggest obstacle to AI art being widely accepted is the fact that its proponents are generally really stupid. that means most of the AI art you will see looks like shit because it was generated by a stupid person. since it often looks bad and is heavily used in low tier coomshit and gacha, people will associate AI with that stuff almost exclusively, which poisons the well for AI art being used in any actual respectable way. every time we see an actual business use AI art (either accidentally or not) they get slammed super hard for it, and i think that pushback will persist for a long, long time
>most of the AI art you will see looks like shit because it was generated by a stupid person
Most definitely. Ease of access, and just following guides is really obvious.
>98% of AI users just use it for personal reasons and to frick around or enjoy or use to spice up personal things very few other people will ever see.
Nobody fricking cares about them. The entire thread is literally about using A”I” in games publicly. Nobody (especially trannies) cares about what you do inside your own house.
>Nobody fricking cares about them
Now you're just lying. The amount of seethe and hatred and "YOU'RE LITERALLY RAPING ME BY STEALING ART" from people just sharing with each other is constant and unyielding. You have people going into the AI containment threads and mass spamming gore because they seethe so hard about it.
I mean, somebody will always care. I don’t. Its just very sad we live in this timeline. Sadness can always turn to anger. Also the more innocent the hobby is the more somebody will try to attack it, its this site unwritten rule at this point.
It's actually fun in a way,I use AI because i want to see character in different art styles , but someone snitched to an artists who started to constantly Dm me saying how terrible of a person I am and how I'm literally stealing from him and ruining his life.
Personally I think both sides need to stop pretending,the current AI side needs to stop pretending it will replace artists,because in it's current form I can't imagine it, and artists need to stop pretending that AI isn't a danger to them all the while lying what it actually does and demonizing the very notion of AI or automation .
this, is fact.
ive been in arguments in boards that dont even have sd threads because someone posted something and someone else replied "slop" and around the endless cycle goes.
if this applies to you, final time, SHUT THE FRICK UP and preferably have a nice day, end of discussion.
>See slop
>Say "sloppa"
>Endless replies about how I'm a seething artoid getting replaced soon
>Hilarity ensues
Some AI jeets are extremely fragile. Say anything bad about AI or call it slop and they will jump instantly.
Personally I don't have any stakes in this. Sometimes I larp as an AI gay too, but ironically here on Ganker it's way easier to get AI gays to start seething the moment you disrespect their toy
yeah thats called intentionally starting a flamewar and it used to be bannable.
>I don't have any stakes in it
>Actually I spend my time pretending and antagonizing
Hey man look at this thread. Like half of it are insults. This is a thread that gets remade every day hitting bump limit because the dopamine addicts get a high from insulting people they don't like.
If the thread is a civilized discussion and where it belongs I don't shit it up, for example, I don't troll the DALLE containemnt threads because they mostly stay there just proompting and minding their bussiness.
But if the thread is just offtopic bait with a shitty AI image in the OP then I don't really give a shit about that thread going to shit. Post slop, expect to have it called slop, simple as.
>zoomer encounters trolling for the first time after thinking the internet was srs bonus all of his life
Anon I talk to myself all the time to start shit storms in threads because I think it’s funny. I also pretend to be other anons in the middle of arguments and purposefully make shitty arguments to make one side look like a moron
i bought a new computer and reinstalled windows so i don't have my old Ganker x filters. one of the words i filtered out was zoomer because inevitably you have people like this anon doing exactly the kind of thing i'd expect a 'zoomer' (negative) to do. while i think arguing on the internet is pathetic, you're also doing your part to shit up threads and you are a gay homosexual. enjoy your filter.
Wow, that was a lot of words to tell me that you’re a fragile homosexual! Where do I unsubscribe?
>while I think arguing on the internet is pathetic
You’re on fricking Ganker, lmfao. People have literally argued between the colors red and blue, apples and oranges, squares and triangles, etc. Way to put yourself as a newbie
there's a difference between arguing (funny) and arguing (autistic).
And anon got triggered because the other anon explained that he purposefully shits up moronic arguments for laughs. You know, the entire point of what Ganker is and always should be?
impersonating other anons to make another side look moronic and everyone confused is pretty funny
>muh filters
Gen Z babs are so fricking soft
there's nothing they hate more than being called out for what they are
>mah copyright
israeli bullshit
AI is owned and funded by the israelites though?
you first, that doesn't even pass the /trash/ stable diffusion general bar
how about you show me what's good first, big guy? clearly I don't know
that seems pretty good to me, care to explain what's wrong with it?
do you not like the style?
>gay israelite gives money to a POO
>blame the POO
how very ~~*curious*~~
https://www.livemint.com/companies/start-ups/india-ranks-fifth-in-ai-startup-investments-receives-3-24bn-in-2022-stanford-report-11681314138709.html
Dunno anon, it's not as simple as that it seems.
see
game good = good
game bad = bad
Don't care how it gets there.
Unironically true.
this guy gets it
in the next decade we will be drown in AIslop vidya but at the same time we'll get a few great games that wouldn't be made otherwise, so I'll accept it.
true and using ai goes into "bad" automatically
just like using stock assets, right?
I don't debate ai-trannies.
I accept your concession.
Discord link sirs
>mah indian mah discord
Get replaced draw-troony there is nothing you can do to stop it
FRICK YOU BLOODY
could tell immediately
>not a new IP
Based big brain haver.
Literally is a new IP when i posted that so you are in the "premium cope" zone.
AI is a godsend. When properly developed it will allow a lot more people to make art and videogames. Draw-trannies can kill themselves.
AI made me realise I can charge so much more for my commisions, because I have become now an '100% organic, artisanal product'.
Thanks bros 🙂
I haven’t done it myself, but I believe that AI is best used for concept art. Type in "make an environment that looks like X", have the program spit out some ideas, and then make them in the game by hand. Anyone who skips that step and tries to use AI for direct assets is delusional.
>pirate every game
devs seeth since forever to this day against piracy, piracy still alive and well
>pirate porn
prostitutes and glorified pimps seeth for an eternity, free tube sites alive and well, making more bank than them
>pirate music
artists seeth like b***hes all the time yet you can get literally every record ever made for free with p2p
>pirate assets and engine software
companies attempt to ban your product, work with pirated version and only give them a penny when you're ready for release and your work is done
>drawgays get mad over AI competition taking over and losing their shit "jobs"
you know the rest
If it’s used in a competent way, good. I don’t care who or what makes the product. I care if the product is hood.
I like how AI art essentially forces troons to admit the existence of the divine (soul), concede that gatekeeping is absolutely a good thing, and bow down to the concept of copyright/intellectual property. they're now adopting the mindset of 16th century chud sculptors, judging images by classical western standards when all they ever drew was beanmouth calarts shit. they're unironically EMBRACING TRADITION as a last stand against ai art.
>gatekeeping is absolutely a good thing
always has been
>and bow down to the concept of copyright/intellectual property
one only needs to look at chinese bootlegs to see what happens when there's no copyright
Funny how draw-trannies bring up copyright when talking about ai and then publish art of copyrighted characters on their paid patron
I don't like it. It's completely soulless and makes the games even worse
HOW COME YOU DON'T LIKE EATING GENERIC SHIT MADE IN 10 SECONDS AND WITH 0 CARE OR EFFORT PUT INTO IT?
YOU MUST BE AN ARTOID SEETHING ABOUT YOUR FURRY TWITTER COMISSIONS
Oh woah thank god draw-trannies don't remake the same shit a million times
What exactly makes ai generated content inherently bad?
>cares about the value of things they consume is incomprehensible for all of them
So if the quality of AI art was indistinguishable from human art you'd be fine with it?
It's impossible.
So you're telling me i could give you 10000 images and you'd be able to tell me 100% of the time which are ai and which aren't? Cope braindead shitposter nobody believes this shit.
>dude you wouldn't be able to distinguish soulless shit made by a lobotomized toy from good shit
Cope harder. Your garbage does not produce anything good.
So you could do that? Just say yes so every sane person here can laugh at you.
Anyone with eyes and who's not a shitskin shilling lobotomized toys can.
Cool. So every sane person or maybe at least someone with an IQ over 85 knows thats bullshit. Anti ai tards have no arguments after the tiniest bit of scrutiny.
>human brains arent the EXACT SAME as AI learning
Why did you just repeat the same thing while adding no actual argument? Yes they are different. Nobody's arguing otherwise.
>Yes they are different. Nobody's arguing otherwise.
homie are you for real.
You don't learn by copying things to your brain and mashing them. It's not how things work.
At first they used non copy righted materials aye, but it barely worked because AI needs more, MUCH MUCH MORE.
>homie are you for real.
Go ahead and point out when i ever said they don't have differences. Wonder why you didn't link
where i explicitly say they do?
>You don't learn by copying things to your brain and mashing them. It's not how things work.
You aren't even trying. What disingenuous bullshit.
I don't know about AI but I struggle to find nice things to say about throwing the most generic stable diffusion prompts into barely customized ren'py alongside poorly written smut.
Why do you oppose the democratization of art
Because I hate shitskins and talentless brainlets like you. Your ilk does not deserve good art. You are incapable of creativity.
I'm all for more people making art, but they should accept that when they publish garbage people will call it garbage.
>They literally NEED this to be true to keep sane
You literally NEED AI to be gone so you can keep your scamfest going
>average consumer cares about the value of things
Average consumer cares about the value of the finished product, not how nor who made it.
>nor who made it.
You massive moron
>literally does it again
Fricking lmao it seems Ive hit bullseye
>use Stable Diffusion and DALL-E for shits and giggles but don't post my gens anywhere besides the Ganker generals
>have a small YouTube channel that consists of AI voice covers
>use ChatGPT to coom to AI-generated ERP and occasionally post logs on Ganker
I personally don't have an agenda or anything, I just think the tech is neat.
Definitely not good enough to straight up make video game assets for you, but I guess you could use it for concept art?
>but I guess you could use it for concept art?
That's what I've been doing. prompt "Pixel art", try to recreate it as actual and not just emulated pixel art.
This. It is absolutely wild sci-fi shit. If I have a horse in this race it's to hope we don't get braindead legislation that ensures hobbyists won't get their hands on newer models and any commercial use means paying your Adobe subscription or using a completely lobotomized system.
I guarantee it's already very widely used for concept art, especially rapid early prototyping that won't be seen even in the artbook should one exist.
Can't wait for shovelware spam to get even worse.
Nobody shops for games, they go by recs and shill spam on Ganker 😉
AI kills static art. so sad, you can no longer load up your template thicc body and paste a fotm anime girl on it and expect to stand out. it's about time someone lit a fire under your ass and you started drawing something dynamic.
>drawtroons gasping at straws while trying to justify stealing other artist's IP
holy frick I love AI so much bros
AI has been used in vidya since the beginning
If I can't tell it's AI then what do I care but the issue is that 99% of the time you can tell right away that it is.
Developers that currently resort to AI just want cheap and lazy solutions and don't actually care if it looks good, just that it looks good enough.
Nobody's going to buy your AIslop
You will, and you won't even know.
No I won't. Your shit is too obvious, and the gays who upload their AIshit to Steam have to mention the fact that they used AI or not and where it was used.
people think that in 5 years from now there will still be games being made that don't rely on AI. it's like all those traditional modern anime that still use cel animation... all zero of them
I'll just stop buying games altogether.
Aside from maybe indie devs who make their own art.
Black Souls 3 will 100% use AI art, by the way.
Nah, gay, he drew all art by himself for BS3.
AI Black folk tried to copy his artstyle and results still looked like shit. Static, boring shit.
>drew
BS3 is still has a decade to go so I don't know what you're talking about. 90% of BS1&2 is pretty much a very good asset flip in the first place.
EMMM himself confirmed that all art for BS3 is hand drawn.
Which is why it takes so much time to finish the game.
Damn, I'm impressed then.
>How do you feel about AI being used in the making of video games?
Think it's an inevitability ,but rn it's too jank and random to use seriously ,NaiV3 does a good job on the anime side,personally I think the 3D side is more promising since if you generate a 3D model then you can use it however you like and it will still be the same,meanwhile 2D still has the inconsistency problem from image to image.
One use case I found out was for low res static sprites for top down rpg's
nice
I sometimes use SD to gen static Pokemon girl sprites, works pretty well tbh
would you say NAI is worth the subscription cost?
>would you say NAI is worth the subscription cost?
Depends how much you want to use it of course ,I've been using local for the most part, but have to admit NaiV3 has us beat in terms of gen quality ,prompt comprehension and just straight lessening of the uncanny AI look
for me it's GBA fire emblem portraits
can't wait to live in a dystopian hellhole with no creative expression bros
With all the improvements AI got in the last years, I'm surprised there hasn't been a new Audiosurf game or something similar. Generating different landscapes and obstacles for every song you play shouldn't be too difficult
That requires creativity from them.
Devs are just going to get lazier and lazier with AI
good for them, if the result is good why would you care
Pricing? They'll do minimal work and still keep the 70$ tag on the game.
79$
>Fire all of their artists and devs
>Shit out some cattle slop
>That'll be 79.99 plus tip, goyim
>It will work since they will just put FIFA or Call of Duty in their title
Dev competence has been on a downward spiral anyway.
I want to make a VN with generated assets, but I don't know where to start.
I can't wait until something on the level of DALL-E 3 can be used to make porn.
iirc NAI V3 is close, definitely way better than Stable Diffusion, but it's not quite there yet
you can now, but requires a decent card, lots of nerd know how and some Photoshop skills, nothing you can't learn on a weekend if you have the will and brains
AI is only good for tranimeshit and some backgrounds it seems.
it makes it kinda bland, especially in games like diablo or daggerfall or no mans sky, it leads to shit tier design that does not communicate any deeper themes / enhance gameplay
every thing feels the same, bespoke tight environments are much better like deus ex MD
Her face seems like it’s a shade different than her body
inevitable and any crying about it is just embarrassing at this point
Good to know that we have so many video games to play through that we don't need to consoooom the latest AIslop.
video games are slop anyway
>slop
>SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
meaningless buzzword
Only AIshit is slop, you probably only play gachashit and some other shitty jarpigs.
>meaningless buzzword
Nope, it perfectly describes what you're making.
no I don't, I barely play games at all and right now I'm playing through sekiro
I don't give a shit if the background skybox was AI generated or made by a pajeet, it makes no difference to my experience
>I don't give a shit if the background skybox was AI generated or made by a pajeet
Thankfully they have to mention it so I can filter their shit.
yeah I get it, you hold a grudge
anyway functionally the shit will be the same so for the end user it doesn't matter unless they're some activist type of people
>video games are slop anyway
Why are you on Ganker Black person?
old habit Black person
If developers themselves don't care about games they generate why should I
I've heard from /trash/ that AI can do some incredible BLACKED porn.
Blacked porn is just generic porn with specific skin tones, of course AI can do it.
what in tarnation is that picture
gacha rolling for blacked ai pics?
The Bleach series isnt the same thing as Bleached porn like at all.
I care more about the overall quality of the work than whether or not a human or a machine drew art.
yeah, AIgays are delusional, in other news - water is wet.
If the average consumer is fine with buying shoes and technology that is the result of slave labour in the third world why would I ever consider the notion that AI's involvement in the creation of fictional material might upset them?
Something something SOUL
My view is that aigays are the failed artists they like to strawman so much and they're just projecting. The fact that there are aigays that actually sign their "art" and try to sell it on paid sites should be proof enough.
I can't draw or AI generate I just sometimes pretend to be an artist seething about AI in these threads because as always trolling is funny.
I think it will be a net positive for voice acting. I'm not talking about AAA game type of voice acting, but something like having fully voice acting for a 100 hour long CRPG. AI voice acting is already very impressive.
games have been slopped for years now where many of my favorite series have already been reduced to soulless husks. it's already beyond natural repair. with ai i see a 10% chance for it to get better, a 90% chance for everything to get sloppier, and a 100% chance of at least providing a fun show at tonight's copenseethe cabaret
unironic slopcore post
This, they didn't need AI to reduce franchises to slop.
>Well it'll get worse!
It's been 10 years where basically the only new games being praised are remakes, remasters, and indie games. It can't get worse.
>AI art is slop and shit
>NOOOO don't make it I'm losing money/commissions
So which one is it actually? If it's so shit then it will fizzle out on it's own yet artgays fight and lie about it at every chance they get . I'm not at artists nor an AIbro ,looking at it objectively it just looks they see the writing on the wall and are afraid of being replaced like people in other industries ,but they're doing it in such a moronic way that only make me want to see it happen. Is AI art at the quality of artists?
Frick no,no one is saying it is ,but just like any other new tech it will get better ,just compare the shit we had last year to now ,but as is now the only use case I found for AI that is decent enough to use is voice AI for calm/monotone narrators or AI translations.
Most artgays worth a damn are making more money this year then they did last year from patreon
t. Making about $700 more the past few months then I was at the beginning of 2023
The best part about AI art is you can pull the bullshit excuse of "WHY DONT YOU DO BETTER" and if they cant you literally win
Like most people I care about the end result and don't give much of a shit how it was achieved.
im fine with it because im not a corpo wienersucker who wants to restrict it to just the military under the guise of muh ethics, and I already don't use steam
I don't give a frick how games or made or who gets fired as long as I get good games.
I trained a stablediffusion lora to get it to understand what a certain character looks like. it got mildly popular and the comments were filled with third worlders asking "how i install file?????" and "how do I fix the out of vram???"
the ai community has to he one of the dumbest ive ever interacted with
>how do I fix the out of vram
how much do 3090s cost in india anyway?
Thankfully I didn't get those comments yet ,think my most downloaded loraI made was a Sarada lora, followed by Toph and Megumin,guess dicky gays are still going strong.
just put "I will not be answering technical questions" in your descriptions. pejeets going to pajeet.
I still remember when the aritst flick ghosted the ashoka trainer guy and the guy basically had to find another dude to do art while he was paying like 200$+ on commissions
Not only do I love this AI shit I hope all artists fricking hang
I just think it's neat
obviously every hack out there who can't draw for shit is going to use AI to generate assets. sometimes AI comes up with cool shit, and honestly if someone has an idea and gets an AI to generate an image that's not necessarily a bad thing because an AI could create something cool based on someone's well thought out prompt.
i don't have a problem with people using AI to create art especially if they know how to code and make a fun game but don't know how to draw. at the end of the day i don't play games based on whether i consider the dev a trve artist or whatever.
however the issue we're going to see is images of characters with too many toes or fingers, extra limbs, etc.. it'll be obvious when someone is lazily using AI to generate their shit. if they had a modicum of art skills they could simply have an AI generate an image and then fix it where necessary.
What’s really funny is that AI art is going to have a hard time improving because the tech is all about scraping the internet. Now a bunch of artgays are signing shit so that they can’t take their work. You know what it will take it from? Other AI art, deformed and all.
>Now a bunch of artgays are signing shit so that they can’t take their work
lol,lmao even
>AI art is going to be the future of game dev
>all it's been used for shitting out the the equivalence to assetflip match-3 games/VN's whose story is probably just ripped off an average Tavern session
Fricking Microjews used it already
>US and EU ban non-copyrighted AI
>China proceeds to dominate the market
>ban copyrighted AI*
China banned it before anyone else.