How do you feel about the fact that on top of locking the signature theme of Baldur's gate (being a bhallspawn and resisting the allure of evil) to Larian's shitty origin system, they also made Dark Urge and Gortash have an undeniably homosexual relationship pre-orin?
>Larian made me play a sodomite character for 2 acts
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forgot to post the better Gortash by the by
ok this gortash looks better wtf, i really think his hair sucks, seems very ff14
How about you stop shilling and have a nice day instead.
wah wah wah. That's all you do, that's all you are. You're nothing. wah wah wah, wah wah wah, wah wah wah. What's a matter? Gonna cry? Oh noooo, gonna cry? Noo, don't cry, really don't cry. wah wah wah, look at you, crying!
He couldn't just be a normal man
They had to give him a fricking emo haircut. Jesus fricking christ, did they get anything right in this game
I'm gonna be completely honest man, I fricking despise emos but with the mod
I reckon he looks pretty cool and really suits the bane part of the dead three. Original gortash should have defo been given a normal haircut though it's horrid
>Jesus fricking christ, did they get anything right in this game
Really makes you think
Why yes, I love to wear overly edgy clothes that scream "I AM A BAD GUY" while attempting to gain legitimate position as Baldur's Gate's duke.
One of the Lords of Waterdeep is a goddamn Beholder. The standard for holding public office in Forgotten Realms are pretty damn loose, some boomer that never grew out of his teenage angst (and haircut) totally has a chance.
To be fair beholders are fricking scary. Who the frick is going to tell it that it can't?
One of their dukes is a Black so that tells you something about their standards
>made me
You're a fricking imbecile.
>they also made Dark Urge and Gortash have an undeniably homosexual relationship pre-orin?
Proofs?
Wtf is OP actually talking about
Not an RPG
Well being evil is gay
don't know why are acting surprised
VTMB is half a game WITH patches, it doesn't even work without patches. And let's not forget that PST and Arcanum become unplayable slogs in their final acts, as well as the games in their entirety being wonky and unfinished, as in much lower in quality in their entirety than bg3's act 3. And then there's NWN 1 and 2 who's base campaigns are universally hated and their only praised for their buggy paid expansions. Oh and both pathfinder games phoning in like an entire 80 hours of gameplay after the fall off in the first 2 chapters. (out of like 8)
I mean, it's just absurd. No crpg is good when held up to the standards people are criticizing bg3 at here.
Did you feel that this comment so insightful that you felt compelled to copy paste it into multiple threads?
yes I want my superior opinion to be seen by as many people as possible.
>people don't copy paste his shitposts everywhere for him
lol shitpostlet
>VTmB has good writing
>is considered salvageable
>Arcanum has good writing
>is considered salvageable
>PST has good writing
>is considered salvageable
>BG3 has terrible writing
>is shat on, despite not being that bad on technical level
If only there was some kind of pattern...
If you value writing so much how about you pick up a book?
If you don't, why don't you frick off back to Ganker
>is shat on
By a handful of contrarian edgelords, in reality it is arguably the most critically acclaimed game among all the games you mentioned.
The story is too over the top for my tastes, and some of the characters have so much donut steel packed into them I can't take them seriously, Wyll is the worst offender.
>oh I am a legendary hero already at level 1
>oh I have replaced my eye with stone one
>oh I have signed off my soul to demoness
>oh I have horns now
>also I have a tadpole
>uh oh daddy issues
I mean they all have too much going on also, and better writing can and should have restricted the tadpole to only the MC to make him more unique but it was a lazy way for them to skip introduction scenes primarily that I can see.
I rate all that as fricking awful, and it hits bad because it's foundational to the rest of the writing.
However that said they also behave very naturally and realistically as far as being people, and all of them are charismatic in the voice acting and interactions writing. There are a lot of good little characterization scenes with npcs throughout, they get the feeling of scenes like the harpies really well, or Lae'zel ready to kill you at the signs of tadpole mutation, goblins, volo are entertaining, the druid interplay is well done, shadowheart's religious stuff is well done etc.
The micro is much better than the macro with Larian writing.
>appealing to game "critics" in The Year Of Our Lord 2023
Games are art thats quality is more than its mechanical collection of Bing Bing wahoo features. BG3 may hit all the checkbooks of what an rpg should have, but it's still shit. It lacks soul.
/vrpgers/ who pride themselves on being le objective mene may not like to admit it, but it is the case
Sounds like a mentally ill take.
>Larian made me play a sodomite character for 2 acts
you werent forced at gunpoint to play BG3 you choose to be a sodomite character for 2 acts instead of turning the game off
>locking the signature theme of Baldur's gate (being a bhallspawn and resisting the allure of evil) to Larian's shitty origin system
What are you even talking about, the dark urge character is a fully custom character. Some stuff about their past is set in stone but in BG1 you're also always Gorion's ward who grew up in Candlekeep, so what's the big difference?
Gortash is better than Irenicus, BG3 has a multitude of villains which are significantly more interesting than BG2's.
>Gortash
Now thats just straight up cope.
Especially with the "twist" you can see coming from a mile away how "a-a-ackshually the Elder Brain was in control all along and planned everything" and then the final Michael-Bay-esque asspull where levels up and becomes the Netherbrain.
The writing is simply weak as piss. Its a basic b***h millenial-writer-story where they somehow had to add every single bit of memberberries and put it in a blender.
I'm a millenial boomer and I found BG3's writing, plot, and characters to all be absolutely insufferable. Game is trash. Had nice graphics and music, that's it.
Go ahead and recite a single iconic and memorable line from Gortash from memory, without searching for a script or a screenshot or a video. We'll wait.
Not him, and not that I'm really arguing, but it's still a bit unfair. You meet Irenicus at the beginning of the game, and everyone has seen that introduction dozens if not hundreds of times, so of course most people who have played the games will know an iconic line or two from him. You don't even see Gortash until Act 2, and he's not the main antagonist, so... not really a fair comparison by just going off some of his dialogue.
Sure, but anon said that Gortash is a "better" and "more interesting" villain than Irenicus, which I cannot fathom someone saying with a straight face. I've played BG1+2 within the last year, and finished BG3 within the last month, and I can't remember Gortash doing or saying anything of note. Every villain was a total snoozefest, neither interesting, clever, or memorable in any way as an antagonist.
Gortash is noteworthy only for his Final Fantasy tier haircut.
Only if your benchmark for what makes a "good" villain is that they're "memorable". I liked Gortashs' character, personally, he was the most interesting of the three, and I even sided with him in my first game.
Both Gortash and Orin are great. Gortash turning his parents into meat puppets alone puts him over Irenicus, but just his general vibe as some sort of pompous hobbesian king is pretty interesting. Are you really going to tell me
is worse than
I'm not so sure you're being honest.
>Gortash turning his parents into meat puppets alone puts him over Irenicus
Yeah he's a great villain, putting killswitches on gnomes that make their heads explode, building a giant mech army, the whole shit with submarine, the strong leader speech, being sold to a demon by his parents, all of it is pretty good.
Is this bait or do zoomers actually think Saturday Day Cartoon villain-shit is great writing?
Its anime Hitler with a power gauntlet.
But anon, Hitler was a democratically-elected leader who was widely popular with the people and freed his people from tyranny. Gortash is the opposite. He was fraudulently installed in a coup using mind control, he has to hide away in a fortress surrounded by guards, and he imposes a tyranny on his people.
>Hitler was a democratically-elected leader who was widely popular with the people
Yeah, so was gortash. He's royalty. He politically maneuvered into his position and there's campaign pamphlets all over the city about how he's gunna fix everything.
*hes not royalty
>zoomer proves he cannot read
BG3-Fans in a nutshell
Do you know why Hitler went to prison?
I know why your dad went to buy cigarettes and never came back.
Answer the question. Why did Hitler go go prison?
>Answer the question.
No.
I accept your concession and now I'm gunna fap to that e-girl.
No, I accept YOUR concession.
>they also made Dark Urge and Gortash have an undeniably homosexual relationship pre-orin
No? They did not? Are you moronic?
>Handsome young man
>World's tallest Mexican street urchin who dresses like an anime character
>they also made Dark Urge and Gortash have an undeniably homosexual relationship pre-orin?
Ive looked high and low for this and there's nothing of the sorts
I'd know, Im gay as hell for Durge
Gortash is a Bane worshipper. Bane worshippers view everything exclusively through the lens of homoerotic hierarchy. You either give and command, or take and submit. It especially makes sense for Gortash, since his first relationship consisted of him being molested by pedo Raphael, so now like a typical victim of pederasty, he models all of his relationships on that experience.
If Gortash and Durge were indeed in a homoanal relationship, Gortash would treat Durge as either his cumdump that must crawl back to his daddy and beg for forvgiveness (if he was top), or he would prostrate before his big mastarer's wiener while spreading his bussy.
Instead his actions are a form of courtship - he tries to establish a homosexual hierarchy with threats of retribution and promises of cooperation, meaning that such a hierarchy was not established yet - meaning that no anal sex occured, to Gortashes massive frustraition. He obviously idolized the old Durge and wanted to become his beloved onahole, but intead was treated like a mere nuisance - so now he's doing his absolute best to make senpai notice him for sure with them inagurations and steel watch and underwater prisons, barely keeping himself from inviting him to a candlelit dinner when he shows up with amnesia - those are all textdoob desperate cries for a mutual affection. And you think that's this is how old gay lovers interact? Contrast with an actual proven example: Astarion and Cazadore. Now that's a dom greeting his sub back.
Gortash is essentially a homolusting midget incel who got cucked by his Bhaalite oneitis and can't get over it - the perfect image of a seething Banegay.
>your brain on moronation
BG2>BG3>>>>>>>>>>>BG1
The Baldur's Gate games were shit. BG3 is no exception.
If you got that far into the game you already saw a literal lesbian angel stomp an old white male to death before making off with his daughter and giving the PC a relic about how Selune isn't a virgin. The quality of the game's writing should not be a shock at this point.