How do you refute disability inclusivity in dungeon crawling without sound like you're mad?
How do you refute disability inclusivity in dungeon crawling without sound like you're mad?
How do you refute disability inclusivity in dungeon crawling without sound like you're mad?
>b-but how do they cli-
why would he take the wheelchair with him up the wall???
that just adds extra weight
if it's just to keep his legs in a steady position then surely there are options that are less cumbersome.
It was specifically for this argument.
>what do you mean wheelchairs can't climb? this capable black man did it, my fantasy character should be able to, too
because he stole the wheelchair and is trying to get away
To make a statement.
>easy V0 holds
leglet Black folk ruining the mats just to take pics
It looks like he's climbing the easiest grade. Almost everyone can campus up that without using their legs.
>Almost everyone can campus up that without using their legs.
I've done 7c outdoors and can't campus since I don't train for it.
Good for him, now ask him to do a 5 mile hike while carrying gear and being ready to fight off ambushes. Ask him to go up stairs...oh wait, he's screeching now because there isn't a ramp. Ask him to go up THESE stairs which are kinda difficult for regular people already.
>mb stairs?
That one actually has an answer. To oversimplify it, they go in reverse.
ok you need railing but fair
Does the military have people in wheelchairs on the front lines?
Only an Aryan one!
>vulksturm in action, March 1945
Dungeon parties usually aren't military or the front lines.
And militaries are notoriously risk averse when recruiting. Otherwise President Bone spurs would have won Vietnam Nam.
In most fantasy worlds, they are basically the spec ops groups
The Nazis used them in the Volkssturm, they weren't really good in spite of being WW1 vets. Which makes a good refutation of the whole idea; wheelchair gays have an inferiority complex that they like to compensate by being big and loud and needlessly complex at the expense of the people around them.
think, anon.
it is a magical setting.
if someone still has legs, their ability to walk can be fixed, or given a way to move around normally
a fricking MAGE has no excuse for being stuck in a wheelchair.
The character could be cursed, healing magic not accessible, the character goal could be even getting a healer with strong enough magic to fix them in the first place. There are literally thousand ways you could make it work by using basic world building.
itd be an easier sell to have a big guy carrying wheelie over a modern wheelchair(brown) complete with rubber handles on the back, its not even an offroad wheelchair.
To be fair the D&D wheelchair is incredibly OP and is magical, id rather take
>DM has you cross paths with a wizard
>Uncripples you
What now Tiefling?
>uncripples the pc against their will
hilarious
>create character, get okay from DM
>set lofty character goal
>DM makes a magical wizard appear in my path and grant my character their goal for no reason
Sounds like a really boring campaign
a cripple with a medline wheelchair isnt setting a goal to uncripple, the wheelchair is part of who they are. Their character quest is probably to find a gold cup and scissor their girlfriend or some shit
>it work by using basic world building.
And how do they explain their wheelchair somehow going over all terrain and into dungeons and castles and through forests?
I did have an idea once for a wizard that was cursed into an endless slumber by a walking skeleton chair that leeches his magic and speaks on his behalf.
That's just Bedman you frickin fraud
No, mine's chairman
eh, bedman's bed is a device he created, and it doesn't speak. it also has no relation to his need to sleep. it's similar but not the same.
*rapes you on epstein island*
Idiot
Don't need legs to fly. Don't need a hand to use mage hand
Mage hand has a weight limit moron you can’t lift yourself with it
Multiple mage hands then
Or, you know, Tenser's Floating Disk.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Tenser's_floating_disk?so=search
Never said you'd use mage hand to lift yourself, you can just bring shit to you
That does frick nothing about getting around
seriously?
fly, float, levitate, telekinesis, jump, teleport, etc
Then that character would not be dungeon crawling.
when the wheelchair breaks theyd arguably be the only one dungeon CRAWLING
Without the wheel chair, they definitely will be crawling
Then stay at home, be a craftsman, blacksmith, or artisan. Dungeon crawling is not for them, what if there's a trap that requires them to fricking crawl on the floor? What if there's a trap that eject some big ass boulder and requires them to run? What if there's a water trap that requires them to swim? What if there's a trap that requires them to climb using all four?
It’s fiction, people can do whatever they want
Nah, DnD by itself is autistic as shit, youd better have a rocksolid world with well developed characters. Anything shy of that breaks the illusion and makes the entire experience feel homosexual and moronic
Roleplaying is homosexual and moronic by default, being tryhard about it changes nothing
It changes my friends experience to be more enjoyable, if your party member shows up in a wheelchair I am dumping you out of it at the beginning of every engagement and hucking your chair at the enemy
If you cared about your friends experience you wouldn’t be having an autistic meltdown over a fictional wheelchair one of them wants to use
>dumps you out of wheelchair
>throws it at enemy
sorry charlie
are you telling me it isn't funny?
Barbarian that chucks first wheelchair and then dude laying down. Hilarious
If his friend cared about the experience of the group he wouldn't be forcing a stupid wheelchair on everyone and making everything have to revolve around it
If your friend cared about everyone else's experience they wouldn't make a fricking wheelchair bound as part of an adventing party.
>go to roleplaying session
>complain that roleplaying is bad
I choose to not be crippled
No reasonable adventuring party that cares about being alive would accept a fricking cripple who literally always slows the party's travel to a crawl.
Also the technology required to build an actual wheelchair involves pretty complicated metallurgy which would also be sufficient to mass-produce firearms. Specifically the wheels need bearings. Unless it's meant to be a wood axle like a wagon would have, then it just wouldn't work without immense strength just to turn the wheels, and would be awful.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE MAKING TOO MUCH SENSE, DELETE THIS RIGHT FRICKING NOW
The answer being "uh....wheelchair" does not make sense
moron.
>moron
>the character goal could be even getting a healer with strong enough magic to fix them in the first place.
I also like Steel Ball Run.
This would be more like Steel Ball Run but Johnny is racing in a wheelchair instead of a horse while everyone else is still using horses.
>tfw no jrpg puzzle platformer about going on an epic quest to get your childhood sorceress friend uncursed so she can walk again
That would make a pretty interesting ICO clone.
Was thinking the same thing before I posted actually, "Shadow of the Colossus for kids! Wait, it's just Ico without the language barrier. That works too!"
There's a short JRPG (not many puzzles, but a few) about going on a quest to remove the curse of blindness on the childhood friend sorceress girl you start the game with.
>The character could be cursed, healing magic not accessible
Ah, just like in real life!
>The character could be cursed, healing magic not accessible
So summon a pair of golem legs and wear those
The character doesn't need to be cursed
>healing magic not accessible
You can count the vidya setting like this on a leper's hand
>The character could be cursed
That's a moronic justification, and the fact that the only piece of media who attempted that angle is a fricking parody anime should tell you a lot.
And even then her curse isn't directly about being crippled, the wheelchair is just there for convenience and laziness.
She can and do get up when needed, because even a half brain dead animu writer could recognize that the concept of an adventurer stuck in a wheelchair is only reasonable as a background joke.
The cursed angle could work to an extent, but only if its part time. Like a wizard uses all their power to be able to move around normally, but in order to use any other spells, they'd either be super limited or have to sit down for a while.
Kinda like how megumin needs carried after using explosion one time.
>You can count the vidya setting like this on a leper's hand
Anon, anti-cripple magic ain't even easily accessible in fricking D&D. You need Regeneration/Divine Intervention/Wish and the cheapest of those costs 5000 gold and access to a level 13+ cleric/wizard. 95% of the population will literally never have access to that sort of healing
Lesser restoration fixes non removed limbs 40gp
Remove curse is 90gp
Restoration for removed limbs is 90gp
Regeneration is 100gp
95% of the population aren't adventurer either.
Finding 5k gold is nearly trivial, and any major city will have a 13+ caster - unless it's old AD&D which SJW don't play to begin with.
And his prices are off by an order of magnitude and the wrong spells
Lesser restoration and remove curse cover almost all cases and combined they are 130gp
Are you trying to imply that disability is a curse, bigot? Fix them, are you implying there's something wrong with them, chud?
Remove curse is 90gp
If you're going to be a cripple in a fantasy setting at least be a fricking cool one. Have an animated chair that walks around for you on animal legs or some shit. Have an artificer-crafted exoskeleton. Have a necromancer animate your dead legs. Be a homosexual if you must but be a creative one.
>reanimated legs
Holy frick that is brutal. Stolen.
Godspeed, Anon.
Any level 5 wizard could lift the curse, and level 5 wizards aren't uncommon. Any major city would have one. If you could afford to build a fricking wheelchair I'm sure you could afford to pay a wizard to cast a level 3 spell to fix your fricking legs.
Cost to buy remove curse in a city
According to adventure league
90gp - 10 times influence
Lesser restoration is 40gp -5 times influence
>Puts on Ring of Levitation
Many crippled shrugs where had that day
What if magic can't heal paralysis? You're operating under the assumption magic can resolve any issue.
>Why don't they just magic away the problem?
Same goes for anything.
You can accept a world with wheelchairs but not one where magic that can do damn near anything can fix a spinal cord?
the existence of full heal and resurrection spells means disabled people co-existing with magic is maximally unbelievable.
magic by definition can resolve ANY issue. That is why it's called magic, moron.
>What if magic can't heal paralysis?
In D&D it explicitly can, and one of the spells that can do it isn't even a high level spell, it's a first or second level cleric/druid spell.
>Lesser Restoration
It literally can't, Restoration heals "Paralysis" in the sense of a status effect caused by another spell or maybe like paralyzing poison. It does nothing for permanent nerve damage.
Where the absolute frick are you getting those prices from?
>95% of the population aren't adventurer either.
95% of adventures are also no better than random-ass bandits or mercs. PCs by definition exceptional people with the potential to be living legends. The vast majority of them still live paycheck-to-paycheck and will never see that sort of wealth.
>and any major city will have a 13+ caster
You're assuming they'll actually want to meet with a random cripple. Anyone level 13+ is the equivalent of an international celebrity so getting to meet them is gonna be a major questline in itself.
It fixes paralysis
This is all forms "one disease or one condition afflicting it. The condition can be blinded, deafened, paralyzed, or poisoned."
Adventure league and dnd beyond
As defined fiest in "tyranny of dragons" and later added to core
>It fixes paralysis
Anons, "condition" is a purely mechanical term implying short-term effects caused by spells/poisons/diseases. Permanent nerve damage/fricked spine/destroyed eyes is covered
by the optional Lingering Injuries table, which explicitly points to all of those requiring Regeneration.
Anyone who still thinks Lesser Restoration applies to anything actually crippling is moronic.
So those prices don't actually matter that much because the price of the service will naturally be much higher than the component cost unless you're getting healing as a quest reward or something.
I'm checking the Spellcasting Services section of the ADVLeague Player Guide and the price for Lesser Restoration/Remove Curse are the only correct one you cited. There's no price listed for Regeneration and Greater Restoration is 450 gp.
It also removes diseases
Like paralysis
one disease or one condition afflicting it. The condition can be blinded, deafened, paralyzed, or poisoned.
Regeneration was on there when I added it two years ago
Sorry I was a writer for Wotc till December so I guess they changed some things after I left
Oh okay, so you're just trolling.
>it still will be within reach of a peasant family saving for it.
Anon, an unskilled laborer gets maybe 10 silver in savings a month. Assuming 3 working family
members saving every coin for healing a criple, just getting a single Greater Restoration is 125 years of labor.
And again, anything short of Regeneration can't unfrick nerve damage or missing limbs.
> because the price of the service will naturally be much higher than the component cost
Well duh.
The guy taking a fee still won't change the price by several magnitude, and it still will be within reach of a peasant family saving for it.
>Greater Restoration is 450 gp
Trivial for getting your legs back, and magnitudes cheaper than commissioning an overly-enchanted wheelchair.
>Where the absolute frick are you getting those prices from?
NTA but Player's Handbook prices a Greater Restoration at a Material cost of 100 GP worth of Diamond Dust.
Lesser Restoration, a Level 2 Abjuration which cures paralysis, has no material cost and requires only verbal and somatic components.
Of course, finding a non-player character who casts these might be easier said than done.
Remove Curse has no material costs and is a Level 3 spell.
It might be the costs of services listed in the 5E Dungeon Master's Guide, but I only checked the spell costs in the PHB.
Yes, youre right. Not sure why that guy is mad that healing paralysis is really easy and makes no sense for anyone crippled to exist, except by nature of not allowing anyone to heal them or not actually being crippled but l refusing to stop using the op wheel chair.
The costs cited above are adventure league (later ported into vore via dnd beyond) and cover the hiring a caster to cast the spell "material components are not covered and must be supplied"
>Anyone level 13+ is the equivalent of an international celebrity so getting to meet them is gonna be a major questline in itself.
If it's a divine caster that will literally be part of his daily job.
And you only need an actual 13+ for absolutely over-the-top case.
Standard "got my spine broke in a freak farming accident" and other "local witch cursed me for kicking her cat in the 'nards" cases can be handled with lower level spells nearly any random-ass village big enough to be marked on a map will have a temple that offer it. Might require a year worth of savings for a peasant, but that's still a no-brainer investment to get one of your family member back in the fields.
Some basic math shows that a city of 20k people will roughly have 15ish 13th level characters
3 divine casters in that range
>I don't play rpg but THERE ARE THE RULES IN MY HEAD
Oh frick off back to twitch you barking moron
It can raise people from the DEAD. It can fix a broken back.
The problem with magic is unless its super limited in world, it still makes no sense to have disabled people at least ones who require a wheelchair.
Sure, there might not be a healing spell, but there would be a myriad of spells that could move their legs, levitate, command their legs to do what their mind tells them too, etc.
>the assumption magic can resolve any issue.
because it's fricking magic that's the point and that's why the whole "magic is advanced science" is droolies church prayers at best.
a setting with powerful magic would not have crippled characters, or at least their disabilities would have better solutions than a wheelchair
Depends on the fantasy setting and how magic is distributed. Some random berserker becoming crippled in a world with sorcerers is acceptable because they might not like the guy or care enough to heal him. A sorcerer in a wheelchair like OP's pic is completely moronic though.
ya would have to be someone who really hates magic or something and refuses magical aid of any kind. honestly there's some neat ways to make this idea work but I don't think thats what OP had in mind
>party member is a cleric chud
>secret action heals party members legs in her sleep
>she still cruises around in a chair despite having working legs
You can’t, because it’s fiction the author can do whatever they want by providing a scenario
Here's a simple question, why is the person in a wheel AND also the wizard on the front line face to face with the enemies?
Probably suicidal because of the fact that she is stuck in that wheelchair, or the others pushed her there
>this is a game about imagination. why did you imagine yourself still in the damn wheelchair?
Leftists have no imagination, they are NPCs. Otherwise they'd come up with something like this for their cripple characters.
Fate has based fastwheels though
Is fastwheels a servant? Because both the characters in that scene are masters, aka regular ass humans.
You don't know who fastwheels is?
I've never heard the nickname before.
If I accept the presence of magic then why haven't they fixed it with magic?
>magic can resurrect the dead and heal wounds
>magic can give and take away sight
>magic can make you fly
>cant make legs work
Imagine rolling a wheelchair on uneven dirt, now imagine doing that before paved roads existed
I don't. you only get horribly disabled from curses or using forbidden magicks though.
>modern wheelchair design just with some brown recoloring
Lazy and stupid
okay i'm now imagining everyone in this thread has been ascended into a higher dimension and are now also able to control time and space and are therefor immortal. this is fantasy and it's my fantasy.
>can't run away
>die easily
>less disabled adventurers.
self-insert gays should stop ruining things and if you want to role play with a disability you better not make it annoying or everyone else at the table will be pissed
At least its an anime girl and not some fugly tumblr style abomination
People would have different means of dealing with disabilities in a fantasy setting and there would be different disabilities when compared to what we are currently dealing with, especially in a pre-industrial setting with societal design that isn't anti-human.
Just directly porting modern shit is moronic and lazy and this picture is AI sloppa.
It's AI.
AI is very recognizable because it is a pattern completion machine and you are a pattern matching machine.
Looking at certain AI art styles just leads me to expect high pressure Indians even if there aren't any.
Of course it's AI slop what do you expect from people who play DnD lol
Like this; FRICK YOUR STUPID SELF INSERTS. If the game is such a fantasy, then why does your stupid avatar HAVE TO BE DISABLED like you in real life? Grow up, you dumb b***h.
Someone in a wheelchair would not get past early levels of adventuring. Nobody just starts in a levitating Dr Eggman armchair.
People don't hate it because they hate disabled people, they hate it because it's absurd even in the realm of fantasy. You got healing magic that can revive skeletal warriors from the dead and de-age milfs (worst spell imaginable, I know) but you don't got any magic that would fix your fricked up spine? And how about dungeon delving, they don't got ramps you know so one loose cobblestone and you're fricked. "Oh but they can cast levitate on themselves" SO WHY DON'T THEY?
Thank God the local necromancer decided to make his evil lair wheelchair accessible.
At least do disabilities properly.
He is not crippled, he is augmented.
>wheelchair accessible dungeons
lmfao, I'm just imagining some butthole evil wizard laughing at cripples unable to enter his lair and take him down because he didn't make it wheelchair accessible
I can buy disabled people existing in a fantasy setting. Maimus the god of crippling injury or whatever.
What I absolutely abohor is a modern wheel chair in a fantasy setting, or absurd accessibility in an environment that is supposed to be hostile
you forgot the rest of the image op, but don't worry, I gotchu
And add the fact disabled people don't want to be disabled even in their games
This is a fact. I've been playing DnD for over a decade with my friend who's been in a wheelchair since we were sixteen. And around a year ago we invited a few friends of a mutual friend we have into our group and the b***h that was the DM for the scenario forcibly rewrote his character to being in a wheelchair because he is in one. Suffice to say, he told her and her partner to frick off for good
Can't believe I agree with the fricking e-girlcon.
The fourth point is what bothers me the most, these morons have zero creativity.
>driders are disabled drows
>wizard on the frontline of battle
>wheelchair user on the frontline of battle
>FFTA has a character in a wheelchair
>He's taken to a fantasy world
>Understandably, he's given the use of his legs again because it's a magic world
>And fights against the main character, who wants to take everyone back, because it means he'd end up in a wheelchair again
it still boggles my mind that they actually approved of
>guy who wants to be able to walk = villain
>guy who wants to get his way even if it means the other guy cant walk = hero
>world where the guy can walk = super duper evil
just how did that story get past quality assurance?
>oh yeah I turned all the kids from our school into zombies and killed them
but Marche is the bad guy....
>”what? My friends are becoming worse people? Then I should beat the shit out of them and chuck them out of Final Fantasy rather than explain the error of their ways to them! Never mind that my brother can finally walk again!”
Your hero, everyone
From what I remember in past threads the translation apparently removed part of the plot where it was revealed everyone was going to die if they didn't escape.
most of the monsters you kill were people turned to monsters and if you dont turn reality back theyre fricking dead forever....and for what, legs?
Escapism is bad for you, you stupid homosexual
gba era about a ff game where the kids are from a modern universe where they talk about final fantasy games. it was isekai before it was cool and the mc isnt a escapist that wants to play make believe forever. even if he doesnt fully understand the risks, he at least understands that they have a responsibility to return to reality
Their problem was that there was no obvious or stated consequence for living in that world. If they had discovered that the world was draining away their life or something it would've made more sense.
In Persona 5 Royal it makes sense because they are dreaming and their physical bodies are still in the real world.
>it makes sense because they are dreaming and their physical bodies are still in the real world.
The whole point of the endgame was that the cognitive world was merging into the physical world, all the shit from Holy Grail onwards is reality
In Royal, moron. In the months take place in January/February after you beat the grail.
Yeah it's still not a frickin dream world
It's the therapist dude hijacking what Yaldaboath was doing
And why the game over shows the protagonist sleeping and covered in cowebs?
They even twist the knife further by making the hero a direct anthitesis of the villlain.
Marche means walk in french
you cannot inspect quality into a product
its either there by the time it reaches QA or it won´t be there at all
quality is a team effort
source: 17 years as a QA
Classic Marche.
FFTA?
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
It also handles it poorly because Doned puts out a hit on Marche before even trying to talk to him about the situation. He simply hires assassins to murder his brother the moment he discoveres Marche is trying to go back to the real world. They ended up having to make the final boss flat out state that Marche is right because they'd done such a poor job through the entire game.
why a wheelchair instead of something cooler like robo spider legs or more setting appropriate like a mount or floating magical item
phew it's a good thing this lich planning to cast the world in one thousand years of darkness built a wheelchair accessible ramp for his spiral tower!
i mean, he's a genocidal maniac that wants to end all life, but at least he's not a bigot!
>Wheelchair instead of a magic carpet or some mecha made with magic aura
Disabilities in fantasy settings can be pulled right, but you know, you need to be creative for it, something that danger hairs and landwhales aren't
this. Nobody gives a frick that your cool as shit porate warrior is missing a hand a leg and eye. But hes not exactly cruising around on a Medline wheelchair
>storming the lichs lair like
I'm gonna put stairs in all my dungeons
if i were into DND and some guy pulled the cripple crap on me id counter it exactly like this
>put a spell scroll across the party's path early on that'll cure the cripple character perfectly WITHOUT getting rid of whatever free points they got
>every dungeon beyond that will have at least one anti-magic field that makes the magical wheelchair unreliable, has a 1/20 chance to trigger a random backfire (a feature of the chair gets disabled for a bit) every 5ft
>constant stairs. everywhere.
>dungeons are also NOT wheelchair accessible, they'll have wheelchair paths that lesser enemies have blocked with things like crates rubble.
>other party members will have to step in and take care of the cripple themselves due to everything in the way
>smarter enemies that have a higher chance to go for the chair instead of the person sitting on it.
intentionally creating tension between the cripple character and the rest of the party. until they decide to off the character or force the spell scroll onto them whether they like it or not.
>they have to chance roll every step to not get caught on a rock or piece of debris
Add in a wheelchair accessible ramp entrance...in the sewer, and only wide enough for single file, so he has to wheel his way through a foot of shit for a while, but the others can just enter up the front stairs.
>Heal Permanent Wounds scroll found
>Remove Crippling Injury scroll found
>Instant Legs scroll found
>Regular Walking Ability scroll found
>Spinal Resurrection scroll found
>Rod of Walking found
And all in the starting tavern before we've even left on our adventure to the castle of perpetual stairs.
The combat wheelchair is cool though. Also you could make it harder for them in more interesting ways than disable every 5ft. The scroll could be later and also have some kind of trade off. Have actual fun with it instead of whining. The wheelchair character could use some spells or something to move stuff out if the way it they want to take the easier path or something. Build around it, etc.
>have fun with the attention seeking homosexual
how about N O
NO PLAY THE SAME CHARACTERS OVER AND OVER
What's so exhausting about it?
>PLAY THE SAME CHARACTERS OVER AND OVER
see im perfectly fine with new characters, but there's a difference between a fun character and a boring mary sue character
the whole fricking point of making your character have a disability is working AROUND that disability.
if you just slap in a catch-all device thats straight up better than being 100% functional with no drawbacks then no, your character is stupid and deserves to be hated by the rest of the party.
this behavior is so fricking exhausting that it makes "Barbarian who hates magic" seem like a breath of fresh air
Because it exists solely for people to use it as a special snowflake virtue signal, to the point that they made up a super wheelchair that basically negates anything bad and if anything, improves them over regular people, making the crippling pointless in terms of roleplaying
Why everything has to be inclusive anyways?
Leftist talking points are flanderized to the extreme.
We are now at the point of "my IRL in-group is not being actively represented in fiction = this fiction is actively hostile that maliciously wants to exclude my IRL in-group and if you like it, it means you want to literally genocide me in real life".
D&D clerics did irreperable damage to fantasy.
>Bro just heal it! No consequences of anything! Raise dead is a common mid-level spell!
I'm no D&D expert but I remember that in Wizardry reviving a death teammate with a spell actually cost you a level, doesn't it?
no
Why don't you at least roleplay with it? Have a bodyguard that carries you around, have a floating crystal chair, have servants carrying you on a litter, have magical legs you cast every morning that replace your nonworking ones, SOMETHING other than "I'm in a modern wheelchair like those diverse brave cripples I've heard of but never met, and also all the forests, dungeons, fortresses and cities of Faerun are now luckily wheelchair accessible".
The problem is the basic b***h wheelchair.
If it was some ogre or dragon carrying around a crippled but very powerful mage it would be cool.
Just look at the prince Lothric fight in DS3.
Why was I able to tell this was AI from the thumbnail alone
Really it's the modern wheelchair that I hate more than anything else.
Medieval tech didn't have wheelchairs like that, and if you're going to go fantastical rather than historical a wheelchair is just fricking BORING.
Give me a druid who rides their animal companion or an artificer who has a magitech golem carrying them around.
A wheelchair just takes me out of the setting, it's like if your adventurer showed up in a t-shirt and jeans.
>alcoholism is a disability so my character has to be drunk all the time and sending unwanted advances to all the female companions
Disability specialist here. OP is a b***h, a gay, a b***h ass gay, and ID AND DDL to boot. Track those last two because it's the new moron.
The REAL issue there is framing including disabled people as fricking "INCLUSIVITY", like saying your game of star control with 25 fricking alien races lacks "INCLUSIVITY", because it doesn't have identifiably lesbian left handed eskimo albinos or whatever the intersectional stack says you should do..
You put as many or as few disabled people as you fricking want for what ever reason you fricking want. Attempting to decontextualize this to only "INCLUSIVITY" is a move for UNIMAGINATIVE b***hES.
To slow it down for the 'tards, the CORRECT move is to do because it's fricking AWESOME, or because your DICK LIKES IT.
The truth of the matter is that Vidia is fricking LOADED With disabled characters, and has been since 19fricking78.
Protoss Immortal
Space Marine Dreadnought
Belgher from Final Fight.
A full ASSLOAD of blind swordsmen.
Pic Related. You know Gillias thunderhead from the first Golden Axe? He rides on that fricker in the sequel.
And go play some endoparasitic. If you're going to have this shit, you might as well make the gameplay work around it, instead of the half assed politicial posturing OP has..
Kek take her wheelchair and we'll see some real dungeon crawling
It's always leg cripples instead of armless or blind or mute or midgets
Theres an armless cripple in the op tho
>Blind
Pretty sure the blind swordman is basically a cliche at this point. Even Mortal Kombat has Kenshi
>Midgets
Wizardry has a ton of those
>Mute
A mute wizard could be interesting
>Armless
Magical or pseud-steam punk prosthetics, yeah, will need more of those
Mute is damn near the only disability that would drag a spellcaster down, there's a ton of spells that require a verbal component
just carry a parrot on your shoulder at all times and train it to speak the verbal component when you need it to. pirate magic.
>teach the parrot to speak
and how do you plan to do that Mutey McNoVoice
hang around spellcasters until the parrot learns
with magic
illusions sometimes don't require a verbal component
that's would actually be an awesome character in a role playing situation.
and also maybe my favourite side character in Pirates of the Caribbean.
I dunno about current D&D but 3E had feats to remove verbal requirements. You could be a mute spellcaster but it'd be a heavy investment and a real rough start.
I meant more as that the combat wheelchair guys only ever acknowledge wheels and that's not even getting into mental disorders and disabilities like schizophrenia or brain damage
>a world where illnesses can be cured on a whim
>a world where death itself can be thwarted
>a world where teleportation, levitation, and magic flight exists
>a world where any injury and wounds can be healed virtually instantly
>a world where magic constructs, golems, and all manners of beasts and creatures could either function as your legs or transportation for you
>and yet, somehow I'm supposed to believe that the MAGIC USER is incapable of both getting their legs fixed, finding someone that can do so, or use literally ANY other form of transportation besides a wheelchair
Why as a matter of fact, that does sound impossibly moronic.
Sure there's disabled people in fantasy, and they'd be living in a village somewhere, not adventuring in a fricking dungeon.
>cast fireball on wooden wheelchair
>I'm a wheelchair ridden person in a medieval setting
>I cannot go anywhere on my own as there are no pawed roads
>cannot easily move in rock roads
>but I'm a power mage
congratulations you are a powerful mage that is stuck in one place, I ain't dragging your ass with me.
>I don't care! I would summon a golem to carry me and move me around! ha!... wait... I guess I don't need the chair anymore.
I want to be a halfling or gnome that rides around on a golem's shoulders all day.
how about a gnome with dwarfism
>I have an infinite mana pool
>I have infinite summon slots
magic isn't free, it costs something. you beat bet is to be scholar not a fricking adventurer.
and a mechanical requires maintainece... even if dark lord gruchus was kind enough to add ramps in his dungeon
What is bro yapping about?
This wouldn't bother me at all if I randomly saw it in a game but now that people have inserted their weird politics into it, I just reflexively am turned off on the entire idea and hate it.
By D&D rules those have a duration and use concentration so you cant use more useful spells
Quake 3 Arena had the best characters.
>Missing legs?
>picrel
>Fat?
>Lucy
They had everything.
I played DnD with some annoying pick me girl, she played some talking bird with schizophrenia and she thought it was cute to be in character and constantly ramble on. Ultimately I ended up mute on her intermittently which IRL pissed her off and she didnt talk to me for a few weeks
Make fun of the morons lack of creativity
>Using a wheel chair instead of an all terrain giant tarantula that you ride on
ngmi
Create a magical spell that fulfills the same function, it is that simple.
I cant accept that an evil, genocidal lord of darkness would fill his lair with murderous traps with the express intention of keeping people out, but would still make sure its wheelchair accessible.
a based DM would make wheelie wait outside or drop them into the first trapdoor.
Well yeah, they had to hire a diversity consultant when designing their dungeon if they wanted funding.
If it led to a creative roleplaying schtick, like a wizard who has to cast a spell to walk, or a guy who is carried around by a burly barbarian helper, or a cripple mentally piloting a mechanical or magical body, sure. But just tossing in a wheelchair and having zero thought put into how impossible that would be on a medieval era adventure is stupid.
Simple, they need to give me a backstory. In a world of magic you do in fact need an explanation for why your character either can't or refuses to let themselves be healed and I will absolutely weaponize it if it's something that can frick them up when they expect to be allowed to have their cake and eat it
This is an AI image, so naturally it is soulless dogshit by default.
And there’s nothing wrong with disability but if you are just gonna roll around in a regular wheelchair, you are boring. At least add a permanent pair of mage hands or something that pushes you around
There are much better solutions than wheelchair.
At least give em a cool alternative. Let em get sit on a floating rock, ride a woodland creature or mechanical legs crafted by dwarfs, theres so many possibilities
A wheelchair is so boring and out of place, thats why people dont like it. You wanna adapt to the world, not force your bullshit into it
Wouldn't a spell caster use a levitation spell to circumvent their disability? There is no need for a wheelchair.
Apparently its not resonating with irl autist tranxpxple with actval disabilty on xitter therefore wheelchair is a must
Don't you have to start focused to levitate? You use the chair then levitate when you need to.
Perhaps constant magic requires a constant flow of mana which will run out eventually.
*blocks your path*
Nothin personell
yep
it's gaming time
how are they gonna bring their wheelchair up the stairs?
How do you think people do it irl
b***h until they get their way?
I cast 'Whatever this thing is'
Chair lift.
this shit drives me up the fricking wall
Guess i'm going on the barbarian's shoulders again
For all the shit Taimi (GW2, Asura w/ degenerative bone disease), at least she used a fricking robo-golem instead of a moronic wheelchair.
No dungeon would be built wheelchair accessible.
wheelchair assistance is cringe. give me a cripple like lorian
Why wouldn't you have mechanical legs? Hell, why not mechanical spider legs or four legs or extendo legs or hover flying machine legs?
or a comically small horse that can fit in tight spaces
How do you do, fellow centaurs?
>metal foot clangs the ground loudly
In a fantasy setting, disabilities are only a problem for the poor and those without access to magic.
>WE NEED MUH HECKIN CRIPPLED REPRESENTATION
>fantasy setting, can do whatever
>WHEELCHAIR
Is there anything gayer than getting pushed in a wheelchair?
Like, just put your ducks in each other
i'd let you quack my duck anon :3
Because the Wizard who made the dungeon is evil, and isn't nice enough to cater to wheelchair people.
He's notoriously seen teleporting them to high staircases to watch them fall down.
>not making a cursed wheelchair ramp that magically increases in grade sending the cripple flying down it at 150mph into the gatorpit
>random person gets a cursed by some witch And loses their ability to walk
>Regular magic won't work
>They take matters into their own hands and go to undo the curse themselves
It's not even that hard to explain why someone would be trying to adventure in a wheelchair
Why a wheelchair? Why a MODERN wheelchair?
and a wheelchair is all you could come up with? in all the realms of fantasy?
Is that how you became a moron?
You're a boring homosexual if you have them in an OP mary-sue combat wheelchair (some shit that shouldn't even exist in a medieval setting and is absurdly OP in-game) instead of something more fantastical and less game-breakingly overpowered
Go with an Artificer exosuit or something, anything, that's more unique than a wheelchair
I would have a magical disc I sit on. It won't affect much of "gameplay" at all, it would really only serve as funny flavor, because it would make this sound constantly
?si=-slTnMg_vaoeozew&t=13
Does the dungeon also come with accessibility ramps?
If I were an evil demon I would include accessiblity options when building my lair.
Replace the wheelchair with a beast mount and no one would complain
>DM: you are rolling along the path when....OH MY! A SCROLL OF HEAL LEGS!
>stubborn cripple: skip
>DM: you roll passed the scroll, thinking of what could be....maybe just a quick glance
>cripple: no, onward
>DM: you continue along the path when....OH MY! ANOTHER SCROLL OF HEAL LEGS, WHAT ARE THE ODDS!
and so on and so forth
kek
>every quest reward is a Scroll of Heal Legs until the gay finally accepts it
>every NPC ends the conversation with "Also I can heal your legs! for free!"
>You reached a new experience level! You can learn one of the following spells:
>Minor Leg Healing - 0 mana cost
>Leg Healing - 0 mana cost
>Greater Leg Healing - mana cost
>Our village has been so ravaged by the excesses of the demon king that we can't provide you with gold for completing this quest, however we would be willing to provide alternate remuneration
>Is it is a scroll of Heal Legs?
>It is a scroll of Heal Legs
>Do you have anything else?
And thus began the self-assigned quest to deal with Don "The Legbreaker" O'Sullivan, a man so impactful that he singlehandedly transformed the economy of the valley that the party would be traveling through before reaching the steppe of a thousands steps.
>the steppe of a thousands steps
>Wheelchair
>Someone has to push it
>So not only is it your cripple ass who is going to get burned when that dragon deep breaths fire you are going to make someone else die with you.
There is a fricking reason you don't send cripples in to battle. They can't dodge shit
Hear me out, why wouldn't you just make a leg-brace shaped golem, that's also magically controlled by the wearers mind?
Wheelchairs are just a stupid choice for adventuring, especially in a setting like D&D where conjuring a floating disc is a level 1 arcane spell and flying is a level 3 arcane spell. Winged Boots in 5e are an Uncommon rarity item which the DMG lists as suitable for characters as early as FIRST LEVEL. Potions, magic items, healing spells, spells that allow for alternate means of transportation, there's more than enough accessible magical bullshit to completely eliminate the need for a fricking wheelchair in a profession where you spend most of your time exploring and maneuvering around non-handicap accessible environments. I'll let you play as a cripple at my table if you really want to but I'm not gonna let you play as a fricking moron.
Use a wheelchair as a form of worship to your goddess of disability to gain additional buffs
Mimic wheelchair ramps
You make them magically be able to walk, then make them the bad guy
[laughs in Japanese]
how did a pre-industrial society get high quality rubber for those wheels huh?
Same way they get the materials to build spaceships
Their spaceships are literally just boats.
The spaceships are wooden or iron boats with magical engines/enslaved elementals to power them. If you want a setting accurate one then you're going to have adventure to make a permanent Tenser's Floating Disc
We're headed down Rubble Road, toward the Great Staircase, across the Swinging Rickets, up to the Tower of Slime and Ice, along the Cliffs of Perilous Ledges, and finally to the peak of the Grand Ziggurat.
no swamp?
We started in the Swamp Tavern
Post wheelchair alternatives
Here's a dwarf in a full body fantasy mech-suit
P:rove to me this fat frick is actually disabled and not just lazy.
I mean I don't see any legs, do you?
I'm not assed looking them up again, but there's 2 leg-cripples in Witch Hat Atelier:
- One's got magical stilts around his legs, allowing him pseudo-levitate, close to walking and jumping normally
- One's got a kickass frickhuge chair with moving goat legs. It also flies occasionally, because he's a powerful wizard who doesn't give a shit
>people play games to escape reality
>fill games with miserable reality (annoying women, Black folk, cripples
amazing
Mad? Why would I be mad about pointing out that being able to use healing magic but still being a cripple is moronic and makes no sense.
Honestly it's dumb that eye glasses exist in fantasy land. You think you'd just cure nearsightedness.
most people who wear glasses irl dont play characters that need glasses.
usually magic settings like to establish that long-term, terminal or chronic injuries aren't really magic curable without a pretty damn powerful wizard or cleric behind the wheel, something something the body is an extremely elaborate piece of machinery that even magic has trouble fixing something something the soul interferes
Disabled people don't want to be disabled in fantasy worlds.
They want to be "like everyone else", because it's not about being "special", it's about having the basic abilities that they don't have
Nobody wants to be disabled. Even the disabled.
>Nobody wants to be disabled. Even the disabled.
My internet agenda is not fulfilled until everyone is a disabled morbidly obese black woman
you forgot the most important thing
they gotta have vitiligo as well.
its like this generation's heterochromia
But heterochromia looks cool
and they still never go full albino
That's because full albinos look creepy-I mean uh, I'm just being....inclusive.
it's funny how you're more likely to see a gay crippled demon man than an albino or midget
> after all this hardship and effort during the season I have finally reached my most powerful form
> WHITE
>heterochromia
Damn, I would really like to have some characters with it. I don't even care if it's male or female, it looks really nice.
And vitiligo does not look that noticeable on White people, so they have to make Black folk with it. Who look like fricking failed camo patterns for blending in with White people.
Black person camo
I personally have a vitiligo spot on my ankle. Do I want to see fricking monsters with spots on their faces? NO
Except the deaf
They're fricking weird
i remember hearing once that deaf people don't wanna be undeaf cause what they imagine what things sound like and what it really sounds like is such a stark contrast
that it throws them in a huge loop that they never really mentally recover from
My favorite is the guy who was only told later in life that farting makes noise
I don't get the reeee-ing about wheelchairs in fantasy TTRPGs.
I've never understood it.
Of all the shit to fricking ree over, why this?
Why the FRICK do you care?
Wheelchairs are a modern invention
It was invented in 1655
Yes that's what I said
the 1600s is a bit too modern for medieval fantasy, anon
Ass-end Arthurian type of fantasy maybe but a lot of these D&D fantasy settings and knockoffs are starting to piddle around with bombs and firearms and may or may not already have a burgeoning alchemy and clockmaking scene. If your setting can make a wall clock it should be able to also make a wheelchair at a weird rich cripple's request just like what happened IRL
Nah.
>If your setting can make a wall clock it should be able to also make a wheelchair at a weird rich cripple's request just like what happened IRL
If your setting can make a magic carpet it should be able to make a set of spider legs or something cooler than a set of wheels that gets defeated at a cobblestone road (IE every road in a setting such as D&D)
This depends entirely on how high-magic your setting is, also not every cobblestone road is some poorly maintained shithole in rural Kentucky you homosexual
have you ever actually fricking used a wheelchair? its a pain in the ass when a slab of sidewalk is a halfinch higher than another, now imagine navigating a fricking cave
Fantasy settings usually don't take place in the renascence, hence MEDIEVAL fantasy setting.
Only thing really separating medieval from renaissance is the amount of rich c**ts fiddling around with chemicals tbh
The thing that separates it is about half a millennium.
Wheelchairs were first made for King Philip of Spain in the late 1500s
Why is it so important to be in a wheelchair in this role playing game?
The same reason why 5e's take on playable Centaurs caused so much reee-ing.
The game has rules and part of those rules deals with mobility and terrain traversal and making up shitty additions like 5e continues to do always causes fricking problems because the moronic designers never spend any time thinking about the game design, they just want to win some good publicity shitting out low effort virtue signaling garbage because WotC/Hasbro suits told them to.
Because there are extremely shallow people who take one aspect about themselves and make it a defining character trait and EVERYTHING revolves around it.
You see this most often with homosexuals.
If I was running a game where one player made a character who's entire personality was being in a wheelchair, and another player who constantly complained about the other players character, take a guess who I'm more likely to kick.
Well it's not like the wheelchair player can do any kicking
Probably the latter because you're a virtue signalling homosexual.
You've definitely been kicked from a game for being a c**t, and are still mad about it.
Nope.
I'm from an older generation where none of this homosexualry was around, or at least as widespread as it seems to be today.
This one trait is for some reason always their sexuality. Trannies who always talk about who they want to frick, gays who always talk about who they want to frick, straight men always talk about who they want to frick, straight women who always talk about who they want to frick.
Why are these people like this? What made them think that people care?
>People like to talk about who they want to frick
Excuse me while I go post another waifu thread
I like playing badass disabled people in video games
>Why the FRICK do you care?
Why do you push it so hard? Why is the only way you can conceive of someone being disabled is if they are in a wheelchair?
because it's moronic
>Why the FRICK do you care?
If my adventuring party has to specify that every path, road, and plain is perfectly flat or their sorcerer may fall over, I'm going to put an encounter on a hill and force them to do a saving throw every turn to keep from letting them roll off it down a cliff. I will keep doing this until they are dead.
If you disagree, you do not play D&D and have never had to deal with endlessly needy people who want to make some kind of funny 'gimmick' because they think it pisses you off. Get a floating disk, get a magic carpet, those already exist, and are statted. Leave your moronic hotwheels at home.
In DnD at least, the combat wheelchair is hilariously overpowered but is at the same time available from level 1.
It basically makes your character almost unkillable and able to ignore every sort of obstacle any dungeon could possibly have.
It even makes the obvious counter, like just tipping you out of the wheelchair, much harder to do.
And that's the super-cheap (like a 5th the price of a suit of plate armor) level 1 version.
Copy pasting from reddit:
>All this time I thought the DnD combat wheelchair was just "It's a wheelchair that lets you do anything an able-bodied character can do. Don't think about it beyond that" and that was fine.
>What it actually is is a 12-page description of a single magic item and all of its features. Here's a list:
> You don't need to attune to it
> It can move telepathically
> It counts as a mount
> Any spell that affects you also affects it (including lycanthropy), as well as any attunable magic item
> It takes 3 critical hits to break or 3 80-foot falls in a day (time can be spent repairing it in a long rest)
> It can hover
> Your movement speed becomes 30 when on it
> Going downhill, your movement speed becomes 60. There is no penalty for moving uphill.
> You have advantage on saving throws against being knocked prone.
> You can use it as a weapon and can reposition enemies with it.
> It costs 200g
>And that's just what the chair can do before you add the upgrades. The upgrades are similarly OP and are really cheap for what they do. Just one example, for 550g you can add armor to the wheelchair and gain +2 AC. So as soon as a fighter in this wheelchair has 3050g, they can get a total of 22 AC with full plate, a shield, and this wheelchair upgrade.
Advantage against getting knocked prone is fricking egregious
Iirc getting back in the wheelchair if you do get knocked prone is basically free too
>Any spell that affects you also affects it (including lycanthropy)
????
Yep.
Fricking handi-capable magic werewolves.
It's completely and totally moronic.
It's so you can hand wave away shape shifting things
A werewolf that's wheeling itself towards you at a mild speed!
Have you considered playing something that isn't 5e?
Or at least, not taking some morons homebrew as canon?
>Have you considered playing something that isn't 5e?
ALREADY DONE.
>Or at least, not taking some morons homebrew as canon?
It's got official endorsement. Dude's a rouge by the way. Sneaking around on his wheelchair.
I'm imagining like a thief scenario with this character.
>dead of night
>some guy is sleeping soundly
>massive noise as a guy in a wheelchair breaks through a window, drags himself inside with the wheelchair while throwing nearby objects to the ground
>guy is now pretending to be sleeping because he doesn't want to sound mean towards the hardworking cripple
I wonder if anyone playing an able bodied character has ever egged on someone playing a cripple by getting a wheelchair themselves even if they don't need it. They could just say theyre using it for the AC and movement too and the cripple can't say shit about it.
Because the b***hes who put it into ADD were dumb powergaming munchkins who set the things up to have absolutely stupid stats and screeched that it was a civil rights violation to not have them in.
The cost and stats are such that EVERYBODY should be fricking using them.
It absolutely doesn't bother me if some anon wants to run a game with that. But choosing NOT to want it in your setting or to adjust the stats , or to insist that they pick something that fits the setting should be no problem too.
I actually am in favor of the wheelchair for some endgame supervillian shit.
I think the crippled would rather fantasize about walking again.
But what if i, who can walk, want to pretend to be a cripple
I will not accept that some legless warlock who cannot regenerate his lower half due to a curse or other factor would go adventuring in a fricking wheelchair instead of using magical artificial legs, a spider chair that can navigate non-flat terrain, or just fricking floating instead.
If the wheelchair is the only option, he's not fricking coming on the adventure. He can't go into the forest or caves without severe help if there's not even levitation magic to sub in, and he can't dodge attacks if a goblin slips through or something. Unless the magic man is literally just sitting outside the dungeon and functioning like a guide using magic from the outside, or just fumigating the dungeon before we go in, he's a liability.
I have used a wheelchair when I was in the hospital, and I'm sorry wheelchair anons, but wheelchairs are fricking lame. Get that man a mount. A magical spiderchair. A fricking broom to ride. Anything but a cumbersome mobility device that only works in semi-intact ruins and regular civilization.
One guy push her of the chair and she is gobling desert, ladders in dungeon filter them
disabled people don't want to play as a disabled person in a roleplaying game
it's insulting, not only to believe that a disabled person wants to pretend to be disabled but to make this cheery shit like "LOOK, IT'S ACCESSIBLE EVEN THE FRICKING STUPID CRIPPLE CAN COME ALONG IN THE DUNGEON"
sorry guys, my paladin travels by recumbent bike
Post the guy in a wheelchair fighting with a small dagger
>How do you refute disability inclusivity in dungeon crawling without sound like you're mad?
a set of stairs
why would anybody choose to be disabled in fantasy? the entire point of fantasy is to be a fantasy.
Tons of people want to have disabled characters in fantasy, but they also generally don't want the character to suffer any drawbacks or lack of ability despite the handicap. Think of Luke losing his hand in Star Wars. People love that shit. Robotic hands, eyepatches, etc. They just want it to be a cool gimmick to their character that can still function perfectly fine no matter what injury they've sustained. Nobody actually wants to ride the combat wheelchair, that's just WotC being homosexuals like always.
>but they also generally don't want the character to suffer any drawbacks or lack of ability despite the handicap.
Tell them tough shit, there are mechanics in most tabletop games for breaking or losing limbs, and oyu suffer drawbacks for them as you should.
A wheelchair in a setting like D&D when hover disks exist is just cope to be a dickhead to other people.
I don't think you understood me. I'm saying that no one actually wants the wheelchair, that's just stupid virtue signaling bullshit from WotC. In reality, people want handicap characters solely because they think it looks cool, like having a magical/mechanical prosthetic arm in place of a real one. It's purely an aesthetic thing for 99% of players.
>Tell them tough shit, there are mechanics in most tabletop games for breaking or losing limbs
In my current DND campaign, we suffered a TPK but the DM made it so we were captured and tortured, since we were actually fighting people who could raise the dead. Two of our characters lost one arm each, and as such we suffered appropriate penalties during combat for that (one of them had to choose between using his shield of keep using his weapon), and rolling disadvantage on attacks since they weren't used to missing their arm.
Then we had the opportunity to regrow one of the arms back, and the other had a very rudimentar mechanical arm. Spent even more time with penalties getting used to the new arm and mechanical arm, with the mechanical arm dude losing a free attunement slot since he required to be attuned to the mechanical arm.
>Tons of people want to have disabled characters in fantasy, but they also generally don't want the character to suffer any drawbacks or lack of ability despite the handicap.
Far too many people think of being handicapped as just an Aesthetic.
>World has magical healing and restoration
>people still want their character to be wheelchair bound despite it being complete fantasy.
Dumb frogposter replies to a post that has nothing to do with his premise
Accepting magic means disabled people can't exist in the first place. And even if magic just can't fix them for some reason your telling me adventure in the wilderness and dungeons all suddenly became wheelchair accessible? But wait You're also going to tell me that the wheelchair has a bunch of magic bullshit that can do everything for the character except make them walk? Disabilities seem to be the be all end all for these people and it's sad that they can't imagine themselves as anything else.
>seem to be the be all end all for these people and it's sad that they can't imagine themselves as anything else.
I can assure you none of the people playing as wheelchair users are disabled in real life.
I think there's room for it, it just needs to be done properly. If you just show up on the day with no greater context I'll think it's pretty weak, but if you work with the DM to make a logical backstory that fits with the world I don't see a problem. It's the same deal as with any "speshul" character shit, it entirely comes down to how well it's roleplayed, likewise though I don't think the kind of people to do stuff like this usually have what it takes to actually make it interesting.
Ignore all these people that don't play. Just talk with your DM and you can work it in just fine
>there's still people filtered by ffta
the game explicitly tells you that real people are dying in that dream world, multiple times.
marche was right, he was always right and there was NEVER any kind of ambiguity about it
>dying in the dream world
>still end up okay at the end
were they truly even dying?
We must ascend the slick stairs of Oilotorn, the tallest and steepest fortress in the realms.
Cripples don't deserve to be heroes.
I am physically incapable of relating to anyone who isn't exactly like me in every single way.
Stop not being meeeeeeeeeee.
No it's not. Stop appropriating disability culture or eat my shit covered DSM 5, and taste what the 'tards had for lunch.
if you get to be wheelchair crippled I get to be a christian paladin that reads the Gospels during combat
And I get to be the evil cleric that keeps trying to sneak up on the cripple and cast lesser restoration (2nd level spell btw, available at level 3) to cure his paralysis as a joke.
the word you're looking for is "cool"
Is this the new "latinx"? A bunch of liberal white people pretending that they speak for someone else? I'm pretty sure disabled people feel like death weight irl and don't want to bring that to the table
>New
It's been around for years.
not wanting cures for paralysis is disableist. Think about how a real disabled person would feel if you banned a magical cure for their issue pursuant to "protecting the identity". They would actually kill you.
Wanting disabilities to exist for its own sake is disablist which is eviler than ableism. have a nice day now.
>anon doesn't know about the American healthcare system
I'm not paralyzed but I am disabled and on a lot of pain. I was getting infusions and it didn't fix it but it helped a lot. 6 months ago they decided to cut me off because ??? They just wouldn't say why. Now I can barely get out of bed. Anyway disabilities in games are cool in my opinion because you can do stuff like use magic to help them/use them as a way to have a trade off. Say you have bad arm pain. You use herbs or spells to dull the pain, but that makes your magic weaker. If you stop the spell in combat spells cast with your other arm get a bonus but you have a harder time focusing because of the pain being back, etc
>I am sure to win because of my... uhhh...
imagine the smell of that marinated seat
A rogue without working legs is one of the most moronic things you could have thought up
And of course it's a Tiefling
But anon, guards can't hear your footsteps if you can't step with your feet.
I love this picture
>That smug grin as if he was sure to win
>That paralympics wooden wheelchair with the mad max spikes on the sides
>That tiny butter knife that would force the cripple to over extend and get his arm cut off
>mad max spikes
Boudica spikes are ancient rome chariot race shit my dude.
I didn't know what they were called, thanks
Why is the one on the left using a kitchen knife?
It's a woman.
The only thing more unbelievable in a fantasy setting than someone wheelchair bound is the moronic prospect that one would have to take into account wheelchair accessible dungeons or areas. The second you hit a flight of stairs you may as well head home.
>can be the magic cripple equivalent of pic related
>chooses to stick with a boring ass wheelchair
I will never understand this. The whole game is about fricking using your imagination.
Look out!
He's gonna wheel his way over to you and lean over REAL far to attack with his little dagger! Your pathetic cutlass will stand no chance.
When I look at a picture like this I think about how in the creators mind there's no bigotry in the world, everyone in their idea of a fantasy setting treats each other fairly so these thugs wouldn't say something like "Hey lets kill this cripple" because that would be wrong, they have to act like it's fricking normal for someone in a wheel chair to be fighting them. The thugs in this context and world are incapable of being mean or "bigoted" but what they are capable of, is murder. It's more okay for them to murder then it is for them to say "Is he trying to fight us while in a wheelchair?" because that would be bigoted. And we just can't have that.
Woke-ism doesn't need to make sense.
The face of purest overconfidence
I hate how "smug" is the only personality millennials can think of.
>millennials
It's official art, anon. That's just soulless corporate slop, not some tumblrgay's private collection.
>official art
>not some tumblrgay's private collection.
>yeah...gonna get em with my little knife...gonna be easy
that's the face of someone whose legs still work
>Attackers have him right where they want him, the wheelchair has been neutralized
>He stands up
>I'm sure to win because my seat is superior
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
What if he had 4 wheels? He'd be unstoppable
*casts fire on your wooden wheelchair*
what now?
So what happens when they don't come within arms reach of him? What if they just aim a running dropkick at his face?
If they move at a slight downward incline, he actually gets bonus movement for free in dnd rules, while having no penalty for moving uphill. So, it's actually more a question of how will they possibly survive someone who can't be stopped? He's an unkillable wheel chair guy. You ever wondered why there is no gods walking the planes anymore? They were defeated by the op wheel chair users of old.
>unarmoured legs he can't move
>femoral artery
That's gonna be a quick fight
>"well that was easy. whats in this guy's bag anyways? with something like this id assume he's quite the rich-"
>"... not even two gold."
>"WHAT? let me see."
>...
>"oh my fricking god. how did he even afford a chair like this?"
>"i dont know, look just take that stupid horn ring so that we can say we didnt kill for nothing"
i want a black feminist wheelchair character who gets pushed around by a racist zombie from the antebellum south who randomly shouts slurs and obscenities
I'd buy it but I don't want the zombie to actually be mean or hateful about it, it's simply the social norm of the time period that he's from. He can call her Black person affectionately.
or better yet have a black female necromancer character in a wheelchair. she has different skeletons take turns pushing her around and each one has dialogue that's uniquely offensive to her since they're all from different civilizations and time periods
>play as a cripple
>evil wizard don't have wheelchair accessible ramps
>take him to court
>win
this is the dignify way to play as a cripple
how about having your golem wheel you over to the overlord so you can blast him extremely
>tfw your local lord doesn't build a wheel chair accessible ramp to the castle gates and the disabled serfs are not able to pay their fealty
I wonder if inclusivity homosexuals have the same mental problem as Black folk who can't imagine an object in their mind or answer an hypothetical. Like, surely being unable to associate yourself with someone who doesn't look EXACTLY like you is abnormal? It's contrary to the idea of roleplay too, your fictional character is not supposed to be just you in some fantasy world.
Come on. It looks fricking stupid and it completely destroys the immersion.
My problem with this stuff is why use a basic frick wheel chair you get at a hospital irl? Why not be creative with it and have it fit the setting?
How did I manage to recognize that was a Bing gen on sight?
>I cast heal on the cripple's lower spine
There, problem solved.
The Combat Wheelchair has a number of capabilities and features, including:
>Giving the user Proficiency in Tinker's Tools
>Weighing only 25 lbs and the ability to fold up
>A backpack to dismiss carrying capacity penalties
>Transmutation/shapechanging causes it to meld into you when transforming
>Ignores terrain penalties for grassland, forest, coasts and mountain travel
>Has movement of 25ft at all times, 2x movement speed down hills,
>Locked to the user, cannot be dispelled, unable to be thrown off the chair
>Floats up and down stairs
>Guided by a hand magic stone, can craft a magic variant that responds to telepathy
>Three different natural attacks built-in
>Impervious to damage unless it takes three critical hits, can be mended, still usable for common
If it floats, why does it need wheels?
Shut the frick up
How would you know he's a disabled person if he didn't have wheels on his chair?
>cannot be dispelled
Uh oh, watch out there, we might be getting a bit too fun.
>equip my entire uncrippled party with this shit because it's so OP
>enemy bandits roll out in theirs
>Battle for The Dragon Bulge
So he's in a wheelchair but also the wheelchair can do everything so he is basically not disabled at all?
Correct. If you play by the firm rules in dnd, the wheel chair is extremely over powered. And your entire party is stronger for all using one.
And that is why I hate myself. These pretend like they give a frick about a fantasy and then make fiction that laughs at me for being disabled. Frick WotC.
good on you for standing up and putting your foot down. so inspiring
Dude, frick off. I just want to have a normal roleplaying sesh where people don't give a frick about IRL.
That's right, turn around and walk away from discrimination.
Don't worry anon, if you were disabled in my game, we'd tie you to a shitty sled pulled by a wolf that no one let's indoors, and your party won't carry you through the endlessly inaccessible dungeons, inns, etc. You will have to drag yourself around constantly and be a relentless liability till your character dies. I got you homie.
You described my recent session. Frick D&D.
Just don't be disabled in game you frick
All my friends are fake as frick and put roles on me that I don't want.
>it only can mean, that this person is so fricked up, evil and dangerous, that all gods and their clerics refuse to heal him
thats a perfect ammendum to
>healers, patron gods/saints, and holy figures generally avoid the party.
>anybody in the party that fits that bill has innate distrust of the wheelchair bound person
>any patron gods/saints for the party refuse to let their powers be used to help the wheelchair person
>patron gods/saints will do the godly equivalent of spit in the face of the wheelchair person
>healing the person's legs does not lift this status
>if the character is alive, they end up being the final boss (if they die they possess the wheelchair)
oops.
>No one fantasises about being a cripple.
>Escapism is pointless if it reflects reality
Paladins have a skill called Lay on Hands, which is taken from Christianity, Specifically Jesus healing the cripples.
In any setting where Paladins exist, wheelchairs would not.
>he keeps making this stupid fricking thread every three days
>its guaranteed to hit bump limit
i hate it here. but to be real with you, i dont give a shit if someone is in a wheelchair. i guarantee you that anyone who has played a ttrpg more than three campaigns has come up with a character concept FAR more moronic than a wheel chair. for instance, two gnomes: one without legs, one without arms. the former sits on the latter's shoulders and they form a gnome mech.
what these threads always show me is that either no one here has ever played a TTRPG or they play with the shittiest people on earth because every one of these stupid "how do you go up stairs" and "what do you do in combat if you cant dodge fast" arguments pales under the simple counteragument of "that's what your party is for." in all things, to include being a jackass stuck in a wheelchair, your party is what covers for your weaknesses. every argument i see in these fricking threads makes it clear no one here has ever had a friend before.
tldr thread full of homosexuals
>two gnomes: one without legs, one without arms. the former sits on the latter's shoulders and they form a gnome mech
This is infinitely better than muh mary sue wheelchair
Absolutely not. I guarantee you the player(s) doing that one are going to be moronic at every opportunity and disruptive, annoying the shit out of everyone else trying to actually play the campaign. The wheelchair guy will at least act like a normal fricking person.
Someone should do a cartoon animation about the wheelchair kid of ff tactics adavance with this meme
The problem is that the disability of "legs no work" is both boring, and horribly detrimental unless you make the wheelchair so good that it may as well not exist
And even then there are way more interesting ways to play legs no work than a broke ass wheelchair
That's the real issue people have with it, it's just fricking lame
dont bother. this thread is full of people who arent aware that levitate takes a spell slot and only lasts ten minutes.
>as the dm, I've decided someone who's disabled and casts levitate all the time knows master levitate and can cast 24 hour versions of it that don't take a spell slot
Wow that was hard. You can just make up any reason you want. It doesn't even matter.
So disabled people are better than non disabled people?
That is very ableist of you anon
>so disabled people are better
Yes? Have yoy seen the wheel chair stats in 5e? It's literally overpowered as frick for no reason anyways lol
As a dm, I haven't seen them, I have turned down everyone that even talked about making a character like that
They don't have to think about walking, running or standing. Leaves a lot of spare time to get better at magic.
So they can't do those actions then?
What's stopping an able bodied fighter from gettng a wheelchair for himself?
So the wheelchair gives them 24 hr levitate spells?
Nothing, and that's why it's moronic how over powered they made the Mary sue chair. Your party is unironically stronger if the entire party is in wheel chairs.
NOTHING. Except maybe the DM calling you a wienersucker.
Who the frick says this is exclusive to TTRPG's you neckbeared moron.
Because a video game could easily engineer this out. Only a TTRPG could actually allow homosexuals arguing aloud about asinine shit, holding up the entire fricking game.
Sounds like you have a spineless DM
>your party is for putting up with your inane disability
You are the biggest moron in this thread. Parties covering their weaknesses is due to their CLASS, not disabilities. Fighter covering mage covering thief makes more sense than everyone missing the limb everyone else has
>fantasy
>modern ass wheelchair instead of riding on top of a spider or sitting lotus position on a flying disc
I just dislike the lack of originality. It's a FANTASY setting and the best your imagination can come up with is a wheelchair? You could have a wizard who has magic legs, like bright glowing legs but he has to be constantly focused on this, if he spends too much mana he won't have enough to keep the legs and be at a disadvantage, you could float around on a cloud, you could come up with more interesting designs.
Yeah but how would people in a wheel chair playing your game feel? They need to be represented anon, the research from our consultation firm we hired shows that.
wheelchairgay here, I want little representation as possible. If you NEED to have a disabled character to fit some weird fetish or whatever then get rid of the wheelchair.
For me?
I don't mind inclusivity but why don't they do something more interesting for the character like levitation, a magical equipment of sorts or a magic beast to let them move? Just adding the IRL wheelchair feels a bit boring.
>my legs dont work so I got new ones
>put party in scenario where one of them starts to whither from their toes to their head
>force them to cut off the PCs legs to save him
>give them the option to retire the character or have a deal with the devil to get new legs
>force the trek with a crippled party member to a mad wizard
>wizard offers to give you any new bottom half of a creature you deliver to him alive. Human, horse, giant spider, whatever.
>operation successful, now you have to pay him back
There are so many organic stories that can develop from the premise if one just tries.
if magic, why disabled?
If disabled, why party willing to take person operating below optimum?
because the crippled old man can make people fricking explode
>moronic argument about fantasy in the op
>380 posts and still no bmw posting
disappointed
Because it's stupid. If I want to roleplay as having a disability, I do it because I want the challenge and the RP. Maybe I get a bonus in some other context. Maybe I have a funny concept I want to structure it around. Why should cripples get special treatment when they could just make a character with functioning legs and we could move on to the fun parts of the campaign?
Our DM has made us walk down slippery stairs into catacombs, climb up walls so we don't drown, carry bodies through sewage drains while fending off attackers. If you hand someone a no-lose solution to common problems, you are making it harder to make interesting scenarios without any consequemce to the player. Even ignoring the pandering aspects, you're making things more boring and bland by forcing cognitive dissonance without any payoff for it.
it's almost like the point is that the party is to be presented a problem they have to come up with a creative solution to like literally fricking everything you do in a TTRPG.
The solution being magic to heal it and we move on and play without a crippled moron, you mean?
A cripple is an always on debuff that needs to be accounted for by others. If the whole game is structured around one players fun at the expense of others, that player will be cut off.
I've been blocked from all of the official DnD twitter accounts for brining up that a level 1 Cleric can canonically heal spinal injuries thus making their new Wheelchair autism immediately redundant.
So what are wheelchair users supposed to do if they go to a mountain, a swamp or a place with stairs?
ignore terrain by floating
have the party carry them
>party
that's what hirelings are for
Become your warrior's backpack.
Read
and
It ignores terrain penalties and can hover.
It's a mary sue in device form.
If you want to see how op it is, see the above reply
No reason to, I just won't run games with them
According to this gigantic insufferable moron who clearly plays dnd exclusively online and finds parties thru some troony discord
You are supposed to just have a party who wants to carry you around and solve all the moronic reasons a wheel chair would exist. And, in the chances you can't, just remember that the wheel chair characters are unironically stronger than non wheel chair characters. For reasons.
Oh there's more of this overconfident tiefling
It's a good thing he has a friend with a fricking gun.
>ship sways
>roll across deck
>mfw the Barbarian inevitably yeets him overboard
why would they waste precious metal on a wheelchair?
"In a world where magic can fix any injury, these morons refuse basic healthcare and expect to be useful"
>is incredibly interesting and funny while also being a very realistic depiction
>probably cooked up by a horny guy who has never met a disabled person
>her disability is never even brought up or explained, but it's obvious that living disabled has had positive and negative affects on her personality, and in the end she has become truly unique and special
>universally liked without being preachy, sympathy baiting, or overly sexualized
How did they do it
You treat them like people, not altars to pray at
Chronicles of Mystara Endless Stairs.webm
I hate tieflings so fricking much bros
Did you cave Mol's head in, in BG3?
No Mol was kinda cute and Zevlor was alright
Guess I should have specified tiefling players
Fantasy is so fricking lame these days. You can still see some cool stuff coming from Japan or elsewhere from time to time but in the west the tumblr poisoning has been catastrophic.
DnD doesn't have a creature that produces rust? I think I remember that
They do.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Rust_monster?so=search
They've invented the Wheelchair. I've invented the clamp.
Needs to be a full on anchor too to prevent that whole "cripplechairs can hover" thing.
It can't hover, being a wheelchair.
The posts this guy
brings up says otherwise.
I say it doesn't.
I feel like people forget about this part of ttrpgs / dnd in general. I'm so tired of arguing with gay's about what you can and can't do. It's a made up world. The rules are more like suggestions. The dm can over rule and change whatever he wants. He can also make whatever magic items he wants. Or balance changes. See, bg3. No one is crying and shitting their pants about changes they made, are they? If I think wheelchairs are gay and moronic then I can make magic scrolls that cure a spinal injury fricking normal stuff sold at the local inn. It doesn't matter.
>No one is crying and shitting their pants about changes they made, are they?
Because for the most part the changes in BG3 were buffs compared to 5E. Even ranger, constantly dunked on in 5E tabletop, was more liked in BG3.
But that's my point. Whenever someone tries to talk to me about balance in dnd and I say oh I made that a 2d6 spell instead of 1d6 they look at me like I'm a fricking insane person. And I'm like, what? I'm the dm. That spell blows wiener. I barely made it better. Who gives a shit?
I'm saying no sane mind cries about positive changes. I didn't really care about the rest of the post.
I see
Anyways frick disabled people in ttrpgs
>frick disabled people
Damn right I will
I've never tried fricking a real disabled person but once I was hooking up with a fat ish chick and she took off her clothes she had one of those deals on her hip for diabetes. Idk why, but it totally killed my boner and I couldn't perform. I just couldn't stop looking at it. It really ruins the image of a naked body.
Didn't help she was fat, either.
Easier to hold down
well, there you have it
dungeons are made to keep people out
making it accessible goes against the core purpose of its creation
With dungeon design. Dark lord ain't going to make his lair cripple-friendly, b***h.
>Leggus Repairo!
That's why.
lorian set the bar for cripple characters in fantasy. that's why wheelchairs feel cringe
fantasy stories and video games are wish fulfillment but subhumans come and try to make them shitty like reality
Lesser restoration is 40gp at most
Why do I need to refute something without sound?
Because we're communicating through text you fricking moron.
Someone wanted to use a wheel chair in a recent one shot ish (took 3 sessions) and I said fine but I had to implement some nerfs since it's horrendously broken in 5e - mainly that you couldn't sneak while using it, cause it's loud, and you had to pass a athletics check to even be able to move away from someone you're in front of, separate from opportunity attack, and it didn't give any bonus ac.
It just makes wonder why she can't use magic to heal her legs.
I'm paralyzed from the waist down, I hate all this shit so much. I hate all these people that pretend to care, I hate everything about the people that make these decisions, kill me.
Sloppy gay.
I don't give a shit. If someone wants an OC to represent their disability, then let them. The only people crying about it are from the same category as chinless freaks that tell themselves they can totally get a 20/10 white woman to settle into a "tradwife".
By which I mean total homosexuals that care too much.
It makes sense if the person is in a wheelchair to seem more helpless than they really are. Like a mage or a wiry old bastard hiding weapons in his chair.
Why refute? If a person in high magic setting full of good gods of healing, neutral druidic gods of healing and, in some cases, evil murdeefricking gods of evil healing with consequences at the expence of the suffering of healed person and various other sacrifices is in a wheelchair, it only can mean, that this person is so fricked up, evil and dangerous, that all gods and their clerics refuse to heal him and that summoning Tarrasque to deal with this fricker would be not only fully justified, but should be supported by all measures from calling illitids to dealing with yugolots and other various horrors.
My favorite take on having a crippled man in a fantasy setting was:
>old bastard who was a basically Conan the Barbarian in his youth
>pals around with other barbarian heroes that bored since they've survived into old age
>so they go on suicidal adventures
>take over fantasy China
>climb Mount Olympus to go complain at the gods
>steal horses from the valkyries that were going to take them up to Valhalla
it's awesome
homosexuals just throw in a modern wheel chair into a fantasy setting full of magic and expect it to be alright when it ain't, cus frick worldbuilding and setting rules. Especially that OP as shit DND wheelchair. It's not like you can't have them though, pic related. Never personally read the manga myself but disabled wizards ride sick magical wheelchairs since the world building has it set that casting magical spells that act on the body or mind directly is very taboo. No healing legs or fleshcrafting
Witch Hat Atelier was rather solid as far as I remember. Haven't read it in a year or so. Good art, writing has some interesting twists and doesn't shy away from its seinen rating, released monthly so that's a bummer. The author is a fujoshi, however. Story features two gay wizards at a certain point if that's a big deal to any would be reader. Even with that nick to its name, it's one of the best drawn mangas with an above average story about magic users.
Look at this mother fricker in his goat chair. Isn't he a memorable design at first glance? A character and their traits need to fit the overall setting without detracting. Even if he was in a setting where his disability could be healed without too much effort he wouldn't stand out compared to the OP's image or that dumb tiefling rogue wheelchair. He'd just be another wacky wizard.
I remember reading a story on /tg/ about pic related being used as inspiration for a character, I'm not sure if it was for a DM's villain npc or a PC, but you can't shit on someone using an animated scorpion chair to move about. There's so many alternatives in a fantasy setting for disabilities that let you still act them out reasonably without needing to pollute it with this modern shit.
>KANE LIVES
Ahh chair
I mean shit dude being a crippled wizard is the perfect background reason to choose your school. "I decided I didn't like being stuck in one place so I learned magic to enchant a chair."
Same with transmutation
"I don't like human legs, so I have a scorpion body now"
>my human legs broke.
>i decided to turn myself into a lamia instead.
"With your magic you could cure cancer"
"But I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into Dinosaurs!"
based Sauron
I was hoping for the spiderman Pic, but I will take that as well!
This is a setting for heroes.
Rejects who can't do basic things like walk are even worse than the average villager.
Virtue: signalled
OP's wiener: mutilated
It's like playing as a blind character who uses special glasses to see. Also the glasses can't be taken off, stolen, broken or anything negative.
And also they actually give you combat bonuses, cost next to nothing, and are usable in all situations, including darkness created by magic that dark site wouldn't normally work on.
Then you can also upgrade them for more armor and other benefits. Then, we're finally close to the dnd wheel chair.
I want to play as a shredded dude with no legs that moves around like Gorilla Tag
Ideally it would be a giant robot that just grabs the ground and throws itself around and punches the shit out of things
You know the thing that always gets my goat about the combat wheelchair thing is the fact that practically none of the people who use wheelchairs in real life are paralyzed
Full loss of limb function is INSANELY rare, especially with modern surgical techniques, and most of the people who use wheelchairs can stand for short periods or walk short distances with walkers, crutches, or canes
For the overwhelming majority of wheelchair users, the wheelchair is for safety more than actual mobility- their condition makes them prone to falling, which in turn leads to more and more severe injuries over time
If any of the people who push for this shit actually SPOKE to a single disabled person they would know that, but ironically enough because of their oh-so-vaunted "representation" they think EVERYONE who needs a mobility device is completely incapable of wiping their own ass
But hey, who am I kidding, we all know this isn't and has never been about ACTUAL social change, it's just a way for privileged wypipo to pat themselves on the back and pretend they're making the world a better place
thank you, yes
i want a disabled character who trained a giant tiger to carry him around by the scruff like a kitten
>walk into town, wheel chair gay following us around, find the nearest inn and ask for a room on the 2nd floor
>dm Says there's only first floor rooms
>leave the inn and stop at every 2 story and up building asking for a room on the 2nd floor or a room in the basement
>group doesn't invite me back for 2nd session
Their loss. Richard forest was going to be a great cleric.
You are moronic
>Things that never happened
They would just stay at the first inn while you fricked off to the other one. Either that or you're a sperg who started REEEEing about not being able to sleep on the 2nd floor.
>this is a magical setting. how will we handle cripples.
>healing? no
>magical constructs? no
>a spell to let the character float or fly? no
>a wheelchair that doesnt even fit the setting... yes.
>the cripples will feel so heckin valid when they see this.
It's so boring and uninspired. And it completely pretends that, in a normal world, any group gathering to adventure or quest or explore a dungeon would 110% NOT be going with a cripple. Unless they were like childhood friends or something. But we're supposed to pretend being a pink haired homosexual in a chair with bonuses in every metric is normal, accepted, and in fact encouraged in a world that still casually has bandit murder raping in the woods.
she could ask the priest for a level 1 spell to walk again
I guess the simplest way to shit on this is: Why?
Why would we add such a weakness? To be inclusive of players who use wheelchairs? We're actually playing a different character, not (You).
You can't fight, you're not intelligent, and your real-life Charisma is 7. Why put your shittiest weakness in? So we all have to make up new rules just to include your most irrelevant feature? The one thing that genuinely makes you totally useless in this kind of situation?
At least a mentally moronic wizard would be hilarious and awesome, but you're just trying to make the setting suck more.
I will never understand homosexuals who want to be inclusive by trying to add IRL shit
homie when I play RPGs I wont create myself, its either Chad Thunderwiener the barbarian, an aryan Paladin or a sexy female mage
I sometimes like playing the old Appalachian talking crone with an enchanted moving cauldron
But that isnway easier in pf2e
>american gundam
>professor lets you control a robot!
>forces the cripple to use guntank
I'm fricking dying
Why did every 90's cartoon need a cripple and a black anyway
What manga is that?
Kouya Ni Kemono Doukokusu
Resident evil with japfur.
>literally just SD Gundam
>black guy flies through a football goalpost on his wheelchair
Just from the description I was expecting something like Cubix, this is hilarious.
The best argument for fantasy wheelchairs is that if you're going to include the mentally disabled then why not those with physical disabilities?
>why not those with physical disabilities?
'cause dungeon, old ruins, or even fricking forest are *not* wheelchair accessible.
And the amount of gold&magic required to make an enchanted wheelchair that can ignore most terrain, jump over usual pits, and ignore the law physics related to "door/corridor too narrow", is several magnitude bigger than the amount of effort necessary to tard-wrangle a down-syndrome warrior with an axe.
I was just calling them moronic, however don't let me stop you now...