There's unironically no good way to respond to that without sounding mad.
I mean, she even has the gall to put the blame on you for self defense, what the actual frick.
Looking back, was there anything Rhea did that was even morally ambiguous? She really was just trying her best for all that time with 0 nefarious intentions.
Suppressing technology is morally ambiguous, but I'm uncertain if she actually did that. The only proof is a page hidden in an unrelated book that Seteth immediately snuffed out and threw in the garbage that even Linhardt admits is dubious and unverifiable at best.
This is the same school where the librarian was a Slither plant for years who tries to mislead and sow discord in the Golden Deer route already. Who's to say he didn't put that in there?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well this anon covered the technology bit. Again there's a reason for it. The last 2 instances of unfettered technological growth ended in genocide. But keeping everyone ignorant is still something we wouldn't tolerate today. Or at least we'd be upset about it.
So instead I'll talk about Sothis's resurrection and the blood cult. Did Jeralt and those priests know what they were signing up for when they imbibed Rhea's blood to gain the Crest of Seiros. I mean Jeralt is 300+ years old now. And if Rhea ever slips then everyone with her crest goes mad or even turns into a White Beast. The resurrection of the goddess is something Rhea is at least secretive about even to Seteth. Sitri was a test tube baby. Byleth was intended to be a bowl meant for her mother's soul. Rhea herself admits this as a questionable act in SS's ending. She was primarily motivated by grief and wanting to go back to the good old days when her mother was around. But the world, by and large, is moving past the goddess. Lorenz says most nobles who pray only do so for the sake of appearances. Seteth didn't even know Rhea was doing it and doesn't continue it after Rhea is captured. He just wants his daug*sister* to be safe. Dimitri doesn't believe in the goddess and most of the Lions and to be at least aloof to her. I can't say Sothis's return would've been totally welcome if that chair plan worked. And it bears repeating: Rhea considers it wrong for her to have treated Byleth this way. Byleth is their own person and deserves their own life. Even Sothis herself is willing to move on and let Byleth take the lead in all routes. Sothis's time has past and Rhea needs to let go.
And that's about it. Well okay executing Christophe Gaspard for a crime he didn't commit was a dick move. Yes all of Faerghus was in an uproar after the death of Lambert and there needed to be a mastermind to blame but Christophe was already serving his time for the attempted assassination attempt.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>that pic
Reminds me of how it took twitter and other fanartist communities an embarrassingly long time to accept that Edelgard was pretty much unambiguously in the wrong and that there wasn't any way to phrase the conflict as an everyone-is-bad civil war without making yourself look like an idiot.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This is kind of unrelated, but a similar thing kind of happens in that Game of Thrones House of the Dragon show. Reddit's beloved girlboss unambiguously tries to rape somebody and the mental gymnastics reddit and twitter tried to perform to spin it as a good thing or how it was justified and not rape was really embarrassing.
tl;dr we're not escaping this kind of thing anytime soon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>that Game of Thrones House of the Dragon show. Reddit's beloved girlboss unambiguously tries to rape somebody
hot
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Reddit's beloved girlboss unambiguously tries to rape somebody
context? Is this about Rhaenyra asking his homosexual of a guard to be her frick buddy and him refusing like an homosexual?
Before I list these out I want to make it clear I'm a Liongay at my core. I say that because unlike Edelshit, Rhea and Dimitri take responsibility for things they do wrong and it informs their decisions to do better. So any Edeltard looking at this as an endorsement of the Empire better have the insurance on their glass house paid up.
With regards to Rhea her primary problem is trauma. She bore witness to 2 total genocides in her life and she has two major goals: damage control and resurrecting her mother. Her biggest crime was the blurring of history. Look I get it: Nemesis had been ruling Fodlan for at least 90 years. There's an entire generation of people born with superpowers and no explanation for where they came from. And Rhea needs to be able to explain it in a way that doesn't inspire a country wide game of monster hunter. So she told everyone they came from god. Now stop asking any the big turtle by the lake. The problem here is that regardless of what the Book of Seiros said, people still took that as those with Crests were chosen by the goddess and therefore they have the Divine right to rule. Noble houses happened regardless of intent. And no one knows their true history. And that's a bad thing. For years the church confiscated the Heroes Relics without explaining why no one was allowed to touch them before slowly filtering them back into noble families who could use them, reinforcing noble legitimacy. This is not good. Rhea says this is not good. She regrets doing it. And I'm fine with that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I agree with you, but it's kind of funny that in part this is caused because Rhea didn't want to wipe out entire family lines. She COULD have wiped out and hunted down every human who had a Crest like she did with the Ten Elites and that would have solved the problem in its own way. But she didn't. She didn't even kill the children of the Ten Elites because she couldn't bring herself to do it.
This actually carries over into the Cindered Shadows DLC story where Rhea doesn't even attempt the Ritual of Beginning because it would cost the Four Apostles their lives, something that could have potentially resurrected Sothis. We know it was doomed to failure anyway, but Rhea DIDN'T know that when she told the Four Apostles that she was unwilling to sacrifice them so she could maybe get a shot at her greatest wish.
She's a very flawed individual defined by her trauma, but she never loses sight of that inner goodness (until Crimson Flower realizes they forgot to make her evil but I digress) and that's why I like her.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I agree whole hearted with you. Intent is a big thing in a game where everyone has blood on their hands. Like it's easy to say that Dimitri is just a psycho who's butchering people because voices in his head told him to. But like his targets are Imperials and thieves. ANYONE is justified in killing if it's in service to defending his lands. Which is what Dimitri is doing. He's unstable because of circumstances around him but his army is all volunteer. There's no slaves in the Kingdom army and they're on the backfoot in every route. The Empire is the aggressors and they have slaves. It's why I'm willing to give Rhea the benefit of the doubt while I'm not willing to for Edelgard. Rhea did bad things but the things she did was to minimize war and protect her family. Which I understand. Edelgard started a continent wide war. Oh she's doing it because Fodlan is secretly run by lizards and moles and she just wants to free humanity? Oh well I get that. Okay then, tell Dimitri who murdered his family. After all your reasons for working with the Slitherers is because you can't take the Church of Seiros on your own. And Dimitri wouldn't hesitate to crush their wicked skulls if they were even vaguely related to the Tragedy of Duscur. No? Just gonna call him a moron and take his shit because he didn't have access to impossible information only you know? Well okay. I'm sure this is about freeing humanity and not making sure she's in control of everything. This is what I mean by intent. I don't believe in Edelgard's intention because she won't even admit the wrong she's done just that her path is violent but she won't stop.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd like to point out that the entire metaphor with the crests completely falls apart because the crests literally empower their holders. There are factions within the game that literally rely on the power of crests to defend their borders. There is a very practical reason to want crests, and Edelgard herself is a beneficiary of crests despite her claiming that crests are the root of all evil. Edelgard doesn't provide any solutions either, probably because the only real solution would be genocide or forced eugenics.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The solution is something that Rhea is already working on anyway. Hanneman is on her payroll studying Crests so he can fix the power disparity between the haves and have nots. Rhea knows this and pays him. And in every ending, his research bears fruit.
Which makes the idiotic Edeltard claim that her war was necessary to solve the problem even more untrue.
Given what happens to Byleth in 3 Hopes' bad routes, she did not exactly have best intentions for them with the chair thing
3 months ago
Anonymous
Rhea doesn't see Byleth as their own person at first. They kind of just see them as an amnesiac Sothis. Now whether this is good or not is up to you, but it's a little different than inducing ego death in someone (even if that's what would happen).
It's pretty understandable. It's just another in a long line of reasons why Edelgard and her faction are pretty vile even without Slither involvement. The complete moral myopia they possess.
>Edelgard: それで、貴方は奪い返し……踏みにじり返せば気が済むの? >(And will it sate you to steal back and trample us in retaliation?) >This is a small, but crucial difference. The original version has Edelgard asking Dimitri whether continuing to fight a lost war will satisfy him. A question that's crucially lost in the English version.
Being fair, in the japanese Edel questions how far gone Dimitri is by claming he wouldn't stop his "Reconquest" even after stopping her. In english is just a verbose "No U"
3 months ago
Anonymous
The former makes it even worse since it's just projection. Essentially an even more overly verbose "no u"
This is what it means to be unable to read above a primary school level.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no u
Ironic
>Generic Ganker cool guy snark responses #260263864236 and #260263864237
So fricking boring. The line is the same in spirit and the information it conveys. Edelgard is delusional and myopic. Go be a pedant somewhere else.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The line is the same in spirit and the information it conveys. Edelgard is delusional and myopic.
No, you're just illiterate. The English line is a psychopathic response directed from Edelgard's narcissism outwards asking the victim of an invading army if he should feel justified in fighting back against that invader.
The Japanese line is a derisive response targeted at Dmitri's petty obstinance asking him if sending his men to their death fighting a losing battle to the end rather than giving up his pride and saving their lives in the process would make him feel satisfied. The Japanese line also better demonstrates Edelgard's hypocrisy in how it relates to fighting against her because she does the exact same thing she chastises Dmitri for.
That you don't understand this and think they have the same meaning despite that crucial omission drastically changing the meaning behind it is appalling.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This is a very funny response. I wonder if you see the irony.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So basically, it's the same message, except the Japanese one is more polite. Got it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm telling you, it really is like that every time. And now you have all the NPCs squawking at me about how it's totally different.
3 months ago
Anonymous
These are the same people who gas up mid-tier eroge on /jp/ as kamige until they get translated
3 months ago
Anonymous
This is your brain on an unfounded obsession with Japanese
3 months ago
Anonymous
Managed to make them mad somehow
3 months ago
Anonymous
Shit. I'm getting BTFO. Better post about how mad everyone else actually is.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Reply to my post properly you deluded Black person
3 months ago
Anonymous
How moronic does a person have to be to think "Must you do x?" and "Will you be satisfied doing x?" are the same lmao. The latter is exactly the kind of line you would hear in some western medieval fantasy setting.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How desperate to hate localization does someone have to be to pretend these are substantialy different?
3 months ago
Anonymous
How desperate to defend localisation does someone have to be to pretend they're the same?
So accusing him of his intentions being seeking slaughter for its own sake rather than seeking justice, whereas in the translation it basically reads as saying retaliation is just as bad as murder. That does make her seem somewhat less moronic.
t. I don't have autism.
Since I don't have autism I can clearly see that to "reconquer and to kill and retaliation" is also Edelgard calling Dimitri out as continuing to fight for his own ego. But luckily the Japanese version spells it out more clearly for our friends with autism even though they mean the same thing.
The original line makes Edelgard look even more like a psychopath. In the English dub, it's a "no u" but there's at least some logic behind it. "You should just surrender." Very naive and myopic, but still.
The original Japanese has her claiming nonsensically that Dimitri would do the exact same thing to her and her people so therefore she's justified. Which makes her look like even more of a psycopath. So if Edeltards are trumping this up like some kind of smoking gun, it actually makes Edelgard look even worse.
>if you want more accurate translations you must be an Edeltard even if you know a more accurate translation wouldn’t portray her “better” than the less faithful one, for some reason
I wasn't clear. I didn't think you were an Edeltard when I made that post. but I've seen numerous Edeltards like
Surprised so many people still don’t understand this quote. Did they not even play the game?
over the years claim people don't understand the line or it's better in Japanese.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Whether it’s better or not may be subjective but they carry different meanings, it’s unlikely to effect anyones stance on the character one way or the other for various reasons so I don’t see what’s wrong with preferring it’d been translated more accurately then less
IIRC Edelgard says this to Dimitri just before his death in Crimson Flower. You see, Dimitri attempts to shame Edelgard for the war while also refusing to surrender and spare his people from it. “Why should Dimitri surrender?” you ask? “Edelgard is the aggressor after all!” you say? The reason is because the odds are highly out of his favor. Edelgard and Byleth have shown their superiority through multiple victories against him. Dimitri is down to his capitol and things don’t look good.
So then why doesn’t Dimitri surrender if it will save the lives of his soldiers? Because he is stubborn, vengeful. His vengeance matters more to him than his people. Edelgard points out this hypocrisy with that phrase. Edelgard knows her ambitions will come at the cost of lives and does not care to hear it from him of all people.
You know I would be a lot more willing to give you credit for this point if in VW and SS she didn't lock herself up in Enbarr and use her citizens as human shields to keep the Leicester/ Resistance armies out. Edelgard is the last person on earth to preach against standing your ground at all costs. Hubert leaves the note detailing the location of Shambhala specifically because he knows Edelgard doesn't understand the concept of surrender
>Edelgard's point is bad because she doesn't surrender >therefore Dimitri is justified in not surrendering
I'm not sure how else to read your previous post.
Id like to point out that only once did the IP go up for any reply you’ve gotten, in case you haven’t noticed
that's weird because
so you're saying Dimitri is just as bad as she is and somehow that makes him the good guy?
Dude everyone understands this already. It doesn't work because Edelgard is unambigously the aggressor and working with an evil faction who wipes entire cities off the map and captures and experiments on victims. She marches into neutral Alliance territory and starts slaughtering people in it and she doesn't surrender herself on any other route when backed into a corner.
Not to mention from Dimitri's point of view, she doesn't at all care about the common man. The game hammers home again and again that her war has basically destabilized all of Fodlan and is the worst fighting the continent has seen in hundreds of years.
Also her system she's so proud of is shit and would completely fall apart within two generations at best and Dimitri and Rhea are at least smart enough to see that.
Final point is that the battle is a recreation of Tailtean Plains part one where the righteous Seiros struck Nemesis down despite the odds being against her. In other words, if Seiros had taken your and Edelgard's advice back then the continent would probably be ruled entirely by the Slithers and their cabal of immortal unstoppable Crest bearing God King puppets. So uh... good plan there.
>working with an evil faction who wipes entire cities off the map and captures and experiments on victims
She doesn't do that in Crimson Flower. The fact that the war is at the stalemate in this route proves that she doesn't use magic beasts. Otherwise, the kingdom would've been conquered already
The war grinds to a stalemate because she can't get troops over the Ohgma mountain range and into the Kingdom ready for a fight. And unless she found a way to recruit Hannibal, she needs to detour into Leicester so she can go around the mountains instead. Which is how she ends up taking Claude's shit.
>The fact that the war is at the stalemate in this route proves that she doesn't use magic beasts. Otherwise, the kingdom would've been conquered already
Hanneman mentions that the Empire is using Demonic Beasts, just not the Black Eagle Strike Force.
"Professor, I think you should be made aware of a certain group working with the Imperial army. They are the same lot that invented a technique to turn monsters into war assets. It's quite obvious their trick draws on the power of the Crest Stones, but... There is something more to it than that. Some secret I have yet to decipher. I suppose I need to better understand what kind of people they are. Who are they? What do they want? For her part, Miss Edelgard is cooperating, yet does not hide her hostility towards them. I suspect we should prepare in case the day should come when we must combat these strange people."
So in other words Edelgard will wag her finger but is perfectly fine with accepting the results of them being deployed.
NTA but I would like to point out that the Demonic Beasts are people. She used the Death Knight to kidnap students and civilians. She allowed Remire Village to be sacrificed in the name of the Slither experiments with Flayn's blood. In CF Edelgard can't breach the Kingdom and yet she still has Demonic Beasts in her army. Meaning the Demonic Beasts are her own citizens.
>I suspect we should prepare in case the day should come when we must combat these strange people
I like that this was constantly teased during this route and yet it we never fight them. CF is literally the shortest route in the game
NTA but I would like to point out that the Demonic Beasts are people. She used the Death Knight to kidnap students and civilians. She allowed Remire Village to be sacrificed in the name of the Slither experiments with Flayn's blood. In CF Edelgard can't breach the Kingdom and yet she still has Demonic Beasts in her army. Meaning the Demonic Beasts are her own citizens.
She could be using convicts in those experiments. Plus, some raiding parties could still go into Kingdom or Alliance and kidnap citizens from border villages
I still don't get why Edel is so popular? Do people just want to frick her? Claude and Dimitri are way better leaders. I'd say Dimitri would do her role of "morally dubious" leader way better.
Yes. She’s the designated waifu lord character with a massive crush on you. I’m not afraid to admit I put any sense of morality aside for my first playthrough and leaned into the many fetishes she encapsulates
I was thinking of replaying 3H, doing blue lions since it's the one route I never played back when the game was new. Any tips for making fun units? Don't want to just spam fliers.
I enjoy either taking characters down whatever path they're geared toward and leaving them in their "cannon" class. I've done the blue lions the most though so I also enjoy using them in weirder ways that they sorta lean into but it isn't optimal, like making Annette a warrior or Felix a warlock.
>Dimitri
The best enemy phase unit in the game. At A authority he gets Battalion Vantage and Battalion Wrath. Combined with a forged Killer Lance and his frankly absurd strength growth and he will one shot nearly every enemy in the game. Hire the Kingdom Archers as soon as possible to give him Counterattack that lets him attack long range units. Train him in flying as soon as you can to get him Alert Stance which pairs with his personal skill that gives him 15 avoid when at full health. Necessary for Hunting by Daybreak
>Felix
The game wants him to use swords but honestly he works great with bows and fists due to Crest of Fraldarius
>Dedue
I would never recommend this level of grind but I trained him in Faith to get him Renewal from Bishop. Combined with the Goddess Ring and a Sacred Weapon and he was recovering around 60% health every phase with no input on my part. Making him a War Master is also a good move
>Sylvain
Again I'd never recommend this grind. But I put him in Dark Bishop to get Lifetaker. Then I pivoted him into Paladin with Swift Strikes. He one rounds every enemy and and recovers 33% of damage dealt. Which with the stat bloat on maddening keeps him at full health with no input on my part.
>Ingrid
Get Battalion Desperation and Death Blow. Get a forged Brave Lance. Bonk enemies 4 times before they can even swing on you once.
>Annette
I always make her a Dark Knight. She has huge magic but her spell list is mediocre so she benefits from the mobility double black tomefaire
This is the penultimate chapter for the Empire route. By this point (you) and Edelgard have boxed the defending king into a losing battle. Because of the climate he cannot allow a siege, he has to stop (you) right here or lose the war. If you engage him with Edelgard he'll ask what the frick is wrong with her? Why does she keep taking his lands and killing his people? To which Edelgard responds with "well why do you keep taking back the lands I took and killing the people I sent to kill you?"
honestly if I could evict the two morons and just keep Claude that emblem wouldn't have lost any functionality for me. Very good for turning someone into a godlike archer
I'll be real, the most disappointing part of 3H isn't even how fricking moronic Edelgard is. It's that her route is clearly set up to be the optional evil route but the devs were too pussy to follow through on it, trying to justify Edelgard by writing everyone else out of character and just sort of making everything work out for her with no consequences for her awful actions. I fricking wish there was a dubstep mole route where we manipulate Edelgard and kill her when she's finally taken out Rhea for us, followed by an ending where Byleth (me) is surrounded by his sexy clown girl assassin harem, his wife Kronya sitting on his lap. But ISIS is too chickenshit to ever commit to the evil route they've teased us with for two games now.
Lysithea just wants a better deal for her family since she's basically given up on her own life and is even willing to debase herself for it. Couple that with the fact that the leader of the anti-Crest faction looks almost exactly like her and she assumes has been through a similar experience and can give answers.
yeah it's very similar to when you say that Conquest is bad and all you get is "git gud". 3H fans and fates fans really deserve each other's company because they're both morons who can't even explain why they like the things they like.
13 and 14 have fun unit customization and waifus
15 is a remake of 2 with amazing presentation
16 is great if you love pretending that you like Persona and injecting soi into your bloodstream
17 is great if you love being a contrarian and pretending that makes your opinions more valid
It's essentially a different series at this point because the appeal is character customization. Old FE games had a lot of resource management but that's completely gone now that all weapons have infinite uses so you're just slapping skills onto your boring units with 0 personality and have them run down the enemies.
FE12 started the character creation really, Kris sounds like a better, less intrusive to the plot avatar than Robin, or Corrin. You can't even customize Byleth's appearance.
really? everything i've heard makes Kris sound like a massive Mary sue that cucks Marth out of all of Marth's achievements.
Robin is actually well placed in the story in that they're a major character but don't completely steal the spotlight from everyone else. Corrin, Byleth, and Alear are all kind of awful in how they're written as the super special most important center of the universe.
I'd say Robin is just as bad as the rest, just because the Lucina part of the story doesn't fully revolve around Robin doesn't mean he's not being sucked off literally and figuratively by just about everyone he meets.
he really isn't, at least not to the degree the other avatars are. Robin is acknowledged as a great tactician and Chrom has a huge homolust for him, but everyone else's reaction to him his totally reasonable for the facts presented in the game, aside from Tharja, but you can chalk up her Robin obsession to stemming from misunderstanding her sensing Grima's power from him.
Kris more or less just takes Jeigan's part in the story, but at no points is Kris relevant to the main story. They can even permanently die. They are central to the side stories though.
Why don't the other games allow for a customizable appearance? Giving them a name isn't really much. My ideal FE avatar is not a lord, or lord adjacent, and has a customizable appearance with no special class either.
Ironically Kris is one of the worst since he retroactively hurts Marth's character. Robin is the best implemented MU, the story importance in late game gets to be a bit much but it's always Chrom's story primarily. >You can't even customize Byleth's appearance.
Byleth is shit period, I would never defend that fricking blemish.
I'd suggest just playing your own gender. You'll probably run into a girl you want to romance and there's no lesbian romance thankfully in this game.
If you're sure you won't give a shit about romance, I'd say femRobin marrying Chrom is the most narratively satisfying way to play especially since a certain scene changes if you do this, but MaleRobin marrying Lucina is almost as good.
It's essentially a different series at this point because the appeal is character customization. Old FE games had a lot of resource management but that's completely gone now that all weapons have infinite uses so you're just slapping skills onto your boring units with 0 personality and have them run down the enemies.
During Three Houses play testing, the Japanese testers wanted to be able to side with Edelgard because they waifu'd her. Three Houses was meant to be Azure Moon, Verdant Wind, and Silver Snow only, SS being the first route they created, and the one they intended to be the most difficult specifically because you'd lose your Lord. IS and KT hastily added Crimson Flower so the Japanese could side with Edelgard, which is why it is so rushed.
In the West, Edelgard was lauded as "women get it done" because of her no-nonsense attitude, tremendous physical strength, and traumatic past. This would have been fine on its own, but what sent it over the edge is that Edelgard is the only Lord who can romance both a male and female Byleth, making her "canonically bi", even though she doesn't romance any other females EXCEPT Frogleth. Self-inserters, primarily mentally unstable, hard-gay women and male-to-female transsexuals (individuals who pair Ingrid and Dorothea, or Catherine and Shamir, or Mercedes and Annette, or Petra and Bernadetta, and so on) latched on to this single part of her personality, and made it her entire identity. Edelgard is a gay icon to them.
Which is why they lost their fricking minds when Hopes presented Edelgard as a magical girl complete with S-rank ZR AND had her go babymode in Azure Gleam, which matches how fricking traumatized someone like her would be where her safest mental state is just before she and her siblings were abducted by the Slithers and she had to watch her family get cut up, pulled apart, and die on operating tables with no anesthetic, before being put to the knife herself. They think it's insulting that Edelgard goes babymode when it's supposed to show just how fricking tragic her life is, where she thinks the only way she can overcome anything is through total war, and serves as a mirror to Dimitri, his trauma, and how he deal with his anger, pain, and sorrow.
nta but from the little I’ve seen the routegayging at least is less contentious because the general consensus is none of them are the ideal end for the cast collectively. Similarly most seem to like the three lords and Rhea even if they have a favourite among them
Not even a solely language/culture barrier thing, 3H is one of the few games in the series where the mistranslations and such get actively defended. Point out the same shit when it’s Fates or Engage and it’s a different story
I wouldnt need to respond. This response from edeltarde is her being assmad shes being called out for causing all out war and essentially saying "no u".
Theres no need for words after this, just kill her.
-shrugs- Guess so
There's unironically no good way to respond to that without sounding mad.
I mean, she even has the gall to put the blame on you for self defense, what the actual frick.
By plapping her
But what about fricking Rhea in front of Edelgard?
Edelgard is the hero of Three Houses.
FRICK DRAGONS
>FRICK DRAGONS
yeah
How would Rhea feel if she knew how big a crush Edelgard had on Byleth?
Find it precocious until Edelgard reveals she's a school shooter atheist.
Looking back, was there anything Rhea did that was even morally ambiguous? She really was just trying her best for all that time with 0 nefarious intentions.
Suppressing technology is morally ambiguous, but I'm uncertain if she actually did that. The only proof is a page hidden in an unrelated book that Seteth immediately snuffed out and threw in the garbage that even Linhardt admits is dubious and unverifiable at best.
This is the same school where the librarian was a Slither plant for years who tries to mislead and sow discord in the Golden Deer route already. Who's to say he didn't put that in there?
Well this anon covered the technology bit. Again there's a reason for it. The last 2 instances of unfettered technological growth ended in genocide. But keeping everyone ignorant is still something we wouldn't tolerate today. Or at least we'd be upset about it.
So instead I'll talk about Sothis's resurrection and the blood cult. Did Jeralt and those priests know what they were signing up for when they imbibed Rhea's blood to gain the Crest of Seiros. I mean Jeralt is 300+ years old now. And if Rhea ever slips then everyone with her crest goes mad or even turns into a White Beast. The resurrection of the goddess is something Rhea is at least secretive about even to Seteth. Sitri was a test tube baby. Byleth was intended to be a bowl meant for her mother's soul. Rhea herself admits this as a questionable act in SS's ending. She was primarily motivated by grief and wanting to go back to the good old days when her mother was around. But the world, by and large, is moving past the goddess. Lorenz says most nobles who pray only do so for the sake of appearances. Seteth didn't even know Rhea was doing it and doesn't continue it after Rhea is captured. He just wants his daug*sister* to be safe. Dimitri doesn't believe in the goddess and most of the Lions and to be at least aloof to her. I can't say Sothis's return would've been totally welcome if that chair plan worked. And it bears repeating: Rhea considers it wrong for her to have treated Byleth this way. Byleth is their own person and deserves their own life. Even Sothis herself is willing to move on and let Byleth take the lead in all routes. Sothis's time has past and Rhea needs to let go.
And that's about it. Well okay executing Christophe Gaspard for a crime he didn't commit was a dick move. Yes all of Faerghus was in an uproar after the death of Lambert and there needed to be a mastermind to blame but Christophe was already serving his time for the attempted assassination attempt.
>that pic
Reminds me of how it took twitter and other fanartist communities an embarrassingly long time to accept that Edelgard was pretty much unambiguously in the wrong and that there wasn't any way to phrase the conflict as an everyone-is-bad civil war without making yourself look like an idiot.
This is kind of unrelated, but a similar thing kind of happens in that Game of Thrones House of the Dragon show. Reddit's beloved girlboss unambiguously tries to rape somebody and the mental gymnastics reddit and twitter tried to perform to spin it as a good thing or how it was justified and not rape was really embarrassing.
tl;dr we're not escaping this kind of thing anytime soon.
>that Game of Thrones House of the Dragon show. Reddit's beloved girlboss unambiguously tries to rape somebody
hot
>Reddit's beloved girlboss unambiguously tries to rape somebody
context? Is this about Rhaenyra asking his homosexual of a guard to be her frick buddy and him refusing like an homosexual?
Before I list these out I want to make it clear I'm a Liongay at my core. I say that because unlike Edelshit, Rhea and Dimitri take responsibility for things they do wrong and it informs their decisions to do better. So any Edeltard looking at this as an endorsement of the Empire better have the insurance on their glass house paid up.
With regards to Rhea her primary problem is trauma. She bore witness to 2 total genocides in her life and she has two major goals: damage control and resurrecting her mother. Her biggest crime was the blurring of history. Look I get it: Nemesis had been ruling Fodlan for at least 90 years. There's an entire generation of people born with superpowers and no explanation for where they came from. And Rhea needs to be able to explain it in a way that doesn't inspire a country wide game of monster hunter. So she told everyone they came from god. Now stop asking any the big turtle by the lake. The problem here is that regardless of what the Book of Seiros said, people still took that as those with Crests were chosen by the goddess and therefore they have the Divine right to rule. Noble houses happened regardless of intent. And no one knows their true history. And that's a bad thing. For years the church confiscated the Heroes Relics without explaining why no one was allowed to touch them before slowly filtering them back into noble families who could use them, reinforcing noble legitimacy. This is not good. Rhea says this is not good. She regrets doing it. And I'm fine with that.
I agree with you, but it's kind of funny that in part this is caused because Rhea didn't want to wipe out entire family lines. She COULD have wiped out and hunted down every human who had a Crest like she did with the Ten Elites and that would have solved the problem in its own way. But she didn't. She didn't even kill the children of the Ten Elites because she couldn't bring herself to do it.
This actually carries over into the Cindered Shadows DLC story where Rhea doesn't even attempt the Ritual of Beginning because it would cost the Four Apostles their lives, something that could have potentially resurrected Sothis. We know it was doomed to failure anyway, but Rhea DIDN'T know that when she told the Four Apostles that she was unwilling to sacrifice them so she could maybe get a shot at her greatest wish.
She's a very flawed individual defined by her trauma, but she never loses sight of that inner goodness (until Crimson Flower realizes they forgot to make her evil but I digress) and that's why I like her.
I agree whole hearted with you. Intent is a big thing in a game where everyone has blood on their hands. Like it's easy to say that Dimitri is just a psycho who's butchering people because voices in his head told him to. But like his targets are Imperials and thieves. ANYONE is justified in killing if it's in service to defending his lands. Which is what Dimitri is doing. He's unstable because of circumstances around him but his army is all volunteer. There's no slaves in the Kingdom army and they're on the backfoot in every route. The Empire is the aggressors and they have slaves. It's why I'm willing to give Rhea the benefit of the doubt while I'm not willing to for Edelgard. Rhea did bad things but the things she did was to minimize war and protect her family. Which I understand. Edelgard started a continent wide war. Oh she's doing it because Fodlan is secretly run by lizards and moles and she just wants to free humanity? Oh well I get that. Okay then, tell Dimitri who murdered his family. After all your reasons for working with the Slitherers is because you can't take the Church of Seiros on your own. And Dimitri wouldn't hesitate to crush their wicked skulls if they were even vaguely related to the Tragedy of Duscur. No? Just gonna call him a moron and take his shit because he didn't have access to impossible information only you know? Well okay. I'm sure this is about freeing humanity and not making sure she's in control of everything. This is what I mean by intent. I don't believe in Edelgard's intention because she won't even admit the wrong she's done just that her path is violent but she won't stop.
I'd like to point out that the entire metaphor with the crests completely falls apart because the crests literally empower their holders. There are factions within the game that literally rely on the power of crests to defend their borders. There is a very practical reason to want crests, and Edelgard herself is a beneficiary of crests despite her claiming that crests are the root of all evil. Edelgard doesn't provide any solutions either, probably because the only real solution would be genocide or forced eugenics.
The solution is something that Rhea is already working on anyway. Hanneman is on her payroll studying Crests so he can fix the power disparity between the haves and have nots. Rhea knows this and pays him. And in every ending, his research bears fruit.
Which makes the idiotic Edeltard claim that her war was necessary to solve the problem even more untrue.
Also Sylvain.
Given what happens to Byleth in 3 Hopes' bad routes, she did not exactly have best intentions for them with the chair thing
Rhea doesn't see Byleth as their own person at first. They kind of just see them as an amnesiac Sothis. Now whether this is good or not is up to you, but it's a little different than inducing ego death in someone (even if that's what would happen).
Three Hopes is bad fanfiction.
Kill her on the spot.
Surprised so many people still don’t understand this quote. Did they not even play the game?
It's pretty understandable. It's just another in a long line of reasons why Edelgard and her faction are pretty vile even without Slither involvement. The complete moral myopia they possess.
>Edgelard
"lol midget"
Meant for
I am moronic
>FEgays
>playing FE
That’s before we even get into people ignoring or defending the botched localisation of 3H in particular
It's objectively badly translated and misrepresents the intent of the line.
Post the original line
>Edelgard: それで、貴方は奪い返し……踏みにじり返せば気が済むの?
>(And will it sate you to steal back and trample us in retaliation?)
>This is a small, but crucial difference. The original version has Edelgard asking Dimitri whether continuing to fight a lost war will satisfy him. A question that's crucially lost in the English version.
>A-Actually in the Japanese version it's way more complex and nuanced
>It's the same, just worded differently.
Every time.
Being fair, in the japanese Edel questions how far gone Dimitri is by claming he wouldn't stop his "Reconquest" even after stopping her. In english is just a verbose "No U"
The former makes it even worse since it's just projection. Essentially an even more overly verbose "no u"
This is what it means to be unable to read above a primary school level.
>Generic Ganker cool guy snark responses #260263864236 and #260263864237
So fricking boring. The line is the same in spirit and the information it conveys. Edelgard is delusional and myopic. Go be a pedant somewhere else.
>The line is the same in spirit and the information it conveys. Edelgard is delusional and myopic.
No, you're just illiterate. The English line is a psychopathic response directed from Edelgard's narcissism outwards asking the victim of an invading army if he should feel justified in fighting back against that invader.
The Japanese line is a derisive response targeted at Dmitri's petty obstinance asking him if sending his men to their death fighting a losing battle to the end rather than giving up his pride and saving their lives in the process would make him feel satisfied. The Japanese line also better demonstrates Edelgard's hypocrisy in how it relates to fighting against her because she does the exact same thing she chastises Dmitri for.
That you don't understand this and think they have the same meaning despite that crucial omission drastically changing the meaning behind it is appalling.
This is a very funny response. I wonder if you see the irony.
So basically, it's the same message, except the Japanese one is more polite. Got it.
I'm telling you, it really is like that every time. And now you have all the NPCs squawking at me about how it's totally different.
These are the same people who gas up mid-tier eroge on /jp/ as kamige until they get translated
This is your brain on an unfounded obsession with Japanese
Managed to make them mad somehow
Shit. I'm getting BTFO. Better post about how mad everyone else actually is.
Reply to my post properly you deluded Black person
How moronic does a person have to be to think "Must you do x?" and "Will you be satisfied doing x?" are the same lmao. The latter is exactly the kind of line you would hear in some western medieval fantasy setting.
How desperate to hate localization does someone have to be to pretend these are substantialy different?
How desperate to defend localisation does someone have to be to pretend they're the same?
Edeltards will come up with any excuse to defend their moronic warmongerer waifu. Genuine mental illness.
So accusing him of his intentions being seeking slaughter for its own sake rather than seeking justice, whereas in the translation it basically reads as saying retaliation is just as bad as murder. That does make her seem somewhat less moronic.
t. I don't have autism.
Since I don't have autism I can clearly see that to "reconquer and to kill and retaliation" is also Edelgard calling Dimitri out as continuing to fight for his own ego. But luckily the Japanese version spells it out more clearly for our friends with autism even though they mean the same thing.
>you're trying to stop me from conquering all of you? heh, ego much?
The meaning is literally the same.
You think they care?
The original line makes Edelgard look even more like a psychopath. In the English dub, it's a "no u" but there's at least some logic behind it. "You should just surrender." Very naive and myopic, but still.
The original Japanese has her claiming nonsensically that Dimitri would do the exact same thing to her and her people so therefore she's justified. Which makes her look like even more of a psycopath. So if Edeltards are trumping this up like some kind of smoking gun, it actually makes Edelgard look even worse.
Frick off obsessed schizo
>if you want more accurate translations you must be an Edeltard even if you know a more accurate translation wouldn’t portray her “better” than the less faithful one, for some reason
I wasn't clear. I didn't think you were an Edeltard when I made that post. but I've seen numerous Edeltards like
over the years claim people don't understand the line or it's better in Japanese.
Whether it’s better or not may be subjective but they carry different meanings, it’s unlikely to effect anyones stance on the character one way or the other for various reasons so I don’t see what’s wrong with preferring it’d been translated more accurately then less
>You are a monster Edelgard and I'm gonna stop you
Seething
Ukraine could learn a lot from her.
Who cares? After the way that Three Hopes destroyed the integrity of Claude and the Golden Deer I don't care anymore.
You can't. Blue homosexual was throwing a tantrum and killing him was the highlight of the entire game.
This is a valid response for a corintari harlot like her
I wouldn't say a word. I'd listen to what she had to say, and that's what nobody did.
bruh
I think you’re justified in sounding mad in this situation.
Ya we'll ur gay!
there's no way to respond to something so mind bogglingly moronic without sounding mad
Idek what that means but I like to win.
IIRC Edelgard says this to Dimitri just before his death in Crimson Flower. You see, Dimitri attempts to shame Edelgard for the war while also refusing to surrender and spare his people from it. “Why should Dimitri surrender?” you ask? “Edelgard is the aggressor after all!” you say? The reason is because the odds are highly out of his favor. Edelgard and Byleth have shown their superiority through multiple victories against him. Dimitri is down to his capitol and things don’t look good.
So then why doesn’t Dimitri surrender if it will save the lives of his soldiers? Because he is stubborn, vengeful. His vengeance matters more to him than his people. Edelgard points out this hypocrisy with that phrase. Edelgard knows her ambitions will come at the cost of lives and does not care to hear it from him of all people.
You know I would be a lot more willing to give you credit for this point if in VW and SS she didn't lock herself up in Enbarr and use her citizens as human shields to keep the Leicester/ Resistance armies out. Edelgard is the last person on earth to preach against standing your ground at all costs. Hubert leaves the note detailing the location of Shambhala specifically because he knows Edelgard doesn't understand the concept of surrender
so you're saying Dimitri is just as bad as she is and somehow that makes him the good guy?
No. I don't know how you got that from my post. Can you read?
Id like to point out that only once did the IP go up for any reply you’ve gotten, in case you haven’t noticed
>Edelgard's point is bad because she doesn't surrender
>therefore Dimitri is justified in not surrendering
I'm not sure how else to read your previous post.
that's weird because
was absolutely my first post in this thread.
Dude everyone understands this already. It doesn't work because Edelgard is unambigously the aggressor and working with an evil faction who wipes entire cities off the map and captures and experiments on victims. She marches into neutral Alliance territory and starts slaughtering people in it and she doesn't surrender herself on any other route when backed into a corner.
Not to mention from Dimitri's point of view, she doesn't at all care about the common man. The game hammers home again and again that her war has basically destabilized all of Fodlan and is the worst fighting the continent has seen in hundreds of years.
Also her system she's so proud of is shit and would completely fall apart within two generations at best and Dimitri and Rhea are at least smart enough to see that.
Final point is that the battle is a recreation of Tailtean Plains part one where the righteous Seiros struck Nemesis down despite the odds being against her. In other words, if Seiros had taken your and Edelgard's advice back then the continent would probably be ruled entirely by the Slithers and their cabal of immortal unstoppable Crest bearing God King puppets. So uh... good plan there.
>working with an evil faction who wipes entire cities off the map and captures and experiments on victims
She doesn't do that in Crimson Flower. The fact that the war is at the stalemate in this route proves that she doesn't use magic beasts. Otherwise, the kingdom would've been conquered already
The war grinds to a stalemate because she can't get troops over the Ohgma mountain range and into the Kingdom ready for a fight. And unless she found a way to recruit Hannibal, she needs to detour into Leicester so she can go around the mountains instead. Which is how she ends up taking Claude's shit.
>The fact that the war is at the stalemate in this route proves that she doesn't use magic beasts. Otherwise, the kingdom would've been conquered already
Hanneman mentions that the Empire is using Demonic Beasts, just not the Black Eagle Strike Force.
"Professor, I think you should be made aware of a certain group working with the Imperial army. They are the same lot that invented a technique to turn monsters into war assets. It's quite obvious their trick draws on the power of the Crest Stones, but... There is something more to it than that. Some secret I have yet to decipher. I suppose I need to better understand what kind of people they are. Who are they? What do they want? For her part, Miss Edelgard is cooperating, yet does not hide her hostility towards them. I suspect we should prepare in case the day should come when we must combat these strange people."
So in other words Edelgard will wag her finger but is perfectly fine with accepting the results of them being deployed.
NTA but I would like to point out that the Demonic Beasts are people. She used the Death Knight to kidnap students and civilians. She allowed Remire Village to be sacrificed in the name of the Slither experiments with Flayn's blood. In CF Edelgard can't breach the Kingdom and yet she still has Demonic Beasts in her army. Meaning the Demonic Beasts are her own citizens.
>I suspect we should prepare in case the day should come when we must combat these strange people
I like that this was constantly teased during this route and yet it we never fight them. CF is literally the shortest route in the game
She could be using convicts in those experiments. Plus, some raiding parties could still go into Kingdom or Alliance and kidnap citizens from border villages
4chuds bashed this but shit on Ukraine for not surrendering.
Atrocity+Crit
"Yes."
I still don't get why Edel is so popular? Do people just want to frick her? Claude and Dimitri are way better leaders. I'd say Dimitri would do her role of "morally dubious" leader way better.
Cute girl = simp, simple as, yes there are millions of people who are unironically that dumb
Yes. She’s the designated waifu lord character with a massive crush on you. I’m not afraid to admit I put any sense of morality aside for my first playthrough and leaned into the many fetishes she encapsulates
>Claude
>better leader
lol, LMAO even. Claude is just a less talented Edelgard with a bit more luck.
just laugh at her and bully her and remind her that sensei will never be her friend
I turn the game off and play something else with good writing.
*Rape her*
I was thinking of replaying 3H, doing blue lions since it's the one route I never played back when the game was new. Any tips for making fun units? Don't want to just spam fliers.
I enjoy either taking characters down whatever path they're geared toward and leaving them in their "cannon" class. I've done the blue lions the most though so I also enjoy using them in weirder ways that they sorta lean into but it isn't optimal, like making Annette a warrior or Felix a warlock.
>Dimitri
The best enemy phase unit in the game. At A authority he gets Battalion Vantage and Battalion Wrath. Combined with a forged Killer Lance and his frankly absurd strength growth and he will one shot nearly every enemy in the game. Hire the Kingdom Archers as soon as possible to give him Counterattack that lets him attack long range units. Train him in flying as soon as you can to get him Alert Stance which pairs with his personal skill that gives him 15 avoid when at full health. Necessary for Hunting by Daybreak
>Felix
The game wants him to use swords but honestly he works great with bows and fists due to Crest of Fraldarius
>Dedue
I would never recommend this level of grind but I trained him in Faith to get him Renewal from Bishop. Combined with the Goddess Ring and a Sacred Weapon and he was recovering around 60% health every phase with no input on my part. Making him a War Master is also a good move
>Sylvain
Again I'd never recommend this grind. But I put him in Dark Bishop to get Lifetaker. Then I pivoted him into Paladin with Swift Strikes. He one rounds every enemy and and recovers 33% of damage dealt. Which with the stat bloat on maddening keeps him at full health with no input on my part.
>Ingrid
Get Battalion Desperation and Death Blow. Get a forged Brave Lance. Bonk enemies 4 times before they can even swing on you once.
>Annette
I always make her a Dark Knight. She has huge magic but her spell list is mediocre so she benefits from the mobility double black tomefaire
QRD
CONTEXT IS FOR KINGS (me)
This is the penultimate chapter for the Empire route. By this point (you) and Edelgard have boxed the defending king into a losing battle. Because of the climate he cannot allow a siege, he has to stop (you) right here or lose the war. If you engage him with Edelgard he'll ask what the frick is wrong with her? Why does she keep taking his lands and killing his people? To which Edelgard responds with "well why do you keep taking back the lands I took and killing the people I sent to kill you?"
wew what a dumb c**t
Choopie my webbos
666062510
Frick off moron.
>no u
Ironic
Funny how all FE discussion still keeps revolving around Edelgard. Easily the most loved and best written FE character.
guess who's never getting equipped
honestly if I could evict the two morons and just keep Claude that emblem wouldn't have lost any functionality for me. Very good for turning someone into a godlike archer
honestly the underground mole people dubstep zone kinda broke my immersion
I'll be real, the most disappointing part of 3H isn't even how fricking moronic Edelgard is. It's that her route is clearly set up to be the optional evil route but the devs were too pussy to follow through on it, trying to justify Edelgard by writing everyone else out of character and just sort of making everything work out for her with no consequences for her awful actions. I fricking wish there was a dubstep mole route where we manipulate Edelgard and kill her when she's finally taken out Rhea for us, followed by an ending where Byleth (me) is surrounded by his sexy clown girl assassin harem, his wife Kronya sitting on his lap. But ISIS is too chickenshit to ever commit to the evil route they've teased us with for two games now.
That's stupid, and you're insane.
>Lysithea is the only person in the game who will straight up betray her nation for Edelgard in the middle of combat
What did she mean by this?
Lysithea just wants a better deal for her family since she's basically given up on her own life and is even willing to debase herself for it. Couple that with the fact that the leader of the anti-Crest faction looks almost exactly like her and she assumes has been through a similar experience and can give answers.
rent free
Genuinely just spamming things like "rent free" and "seethe" is better than most Edeltard arguments you see in the wild.
yeah it's very similar to when you say that Conquest is bad and all you get is "git gud". 3H fans and fates fans really deserve each other's company because they're both morons who can't even explain why they like the things they like.
>Must you continue to rereconquer? To kill in remoronation?
as someone who stopped playing FE at FE12, what's the appeal of the new ones?
13 and 14 have fun unit customization and waifus
15 is a remake of 2 with amazing presentation
16 is great if you love pretending that you like Persona and injecting soi into your bloodstream
17 is great if you love being a contrarian and pretending that makes your opinions more valid
FE12 started the character creation really, Kris sounds like a better, less intrusive to the plot avatar than Robin, or Corrin. You can't even customize Byleth's appearance.
really? everything i've heard makes Kris sound like a massive Mary sue that cucks Marth out of all of Marth's achievements.
Robin is actually well placed in the story in that they're a major character but don't completely steal the spotlight from everyone else. Corrin, Byleth, and Alear are all kind of awful in how they're written as the super special most important center of the universe.
I'd say Robin is just as bad as the rest, just because the Lucina part of the story doesn't fully revolve around Robin doesn't mean he's not being sucked off literally and figuratively by just about everyone he meets.
he really isn't, at least not to the degree the other avatars are. Robin is acknowledged as a great tactician and Chrom has a huge homolust for him, but everyone else's reaction to him his totally reasonable for the facts presented in the game, aside from Tharja, but you can chalk up her Robin obsession to stemming from misunderstanding her sensing Grima's power from him.
Kris more or less just takes Jeigan's part in the story, but at no points is Kris relevant to the main story. They can even permanently die. They are central to the side stories though.
Why don't the other games allow for a customizable appearance? Giving them a name isn't really much. My ideal FE avatar is not a lord, or lord adjacent, and has a customizable appearance with no special class either.
Ironically Kris is one of the worst since he retroactively hurts Marth's character. Robin is the best implemented MU, the story importance in late game gets to be a bit much but it's always Chrom's story primarily.
>You can't even customize Byleth's appearance.
Byleth is shit period, I would never defend that fricking blemish.
Does Awakening work better with male or female Robin?
I'd suggest just playing your own gender. You'll probably run into a girl you want to romance and there's no lesbian romance thankfully in this game.
If you're sure you won't give a shit about romance, I'd say femRobin marrying Chrom is the most narratively satisfying way to play especially since a certain scene changes if you do this, but MaleRobin marrying Lucina is almost as good.
It's essentially a different series at this point because the appeal is character customization. Old FE games had a lot of resource management but that's completely gone now that all weapons have infinite uses so you're just slapping skills onto your boring units with 0 personality and have them run down the enemies.
I ain't going to surrender to someone that wouldn't surrender to me if the shoe was in the other foot, simple as.
That is actually a good point. Edelgard puts even more civilians at risk when she's on the backfoot, forcing a bloody invasion of her capital.
Yes
I still never understood the appeal of Edelgard. Is it just trannies that praise her or some shit?
During Three Houses play testing, the Japanese testers wanted to be able to side with Edelgard because they waifu'd her. Three Houses was meant to be Azure Moon, Verdant Wind, and Silver Snow only, SS being the first route they created, and the one they intended to be the most difficult specifically because you'd lose your Lord. IS and KT hastily added Crimson Flower so the Japanese could side with Edelgard, which is why it is so rushed.
In the West, Edelgard was lauded as "women get it done" because of her no-nonsense attitude, tremendous physical strength, and traumatic past. This would have been fine on its own, but what sent it over the edge is that Edelgard is the only Lord who can romance both a male and female Byleth, making her "canonically bi", even though she doesn't romance any other females EXCEPT Frogleth. Self-inserters, primarily mentally unstable, hard-gay women and male-to-female transsexuals (individuals who pair Ingrid and Dorothea, or Catherine and Shamir, or Mercedes and Annette, or Petra and Bernadetta, and so on) latched on to this single part of her personality, and made it her entire identity. Edelgard is a gay icon to them.
Which is why they lost their fricking minds when Hopes presented Edelgard as a magical girl complete with S-rank ZR AND had her go babymode in Azure Gleam, which matches how fricking traumatized someone like her would be where her safest mental state is just before she and her siblings were abducted by the Slithers and she had to watch her family get cut up, pulled apart, and die on operating tables with no anesthetic, before being put to the knife herself. They think it's insulting that Edelgard goes babymode when it's supposed to show just how fricking tragic her life is, where she thinks the only way she can overcome anything is through total war, and serves as a mirror to Dimitri, his trauma, and how he deal with his anger, pain, and sorrow.
why would I be mad at her? She's cute
>bro why do you fight back when I try to conquer you?
Edelgard is such a fricking moron
If it means getting rid of you: always. now drop your hp to 0 hoe.
English and JP discourse on these games is fricking night and day
what's JP discourse like I'm curious
nta but from the little I’ve seen the routegayging at least is less contentious because the general consensus is none of them are the ideal end for the cast collectively. Similarly most seem to like the three lords and Rhea even if they have a favourite among them
Not even a solely language/culture barrier thing, 3H is one of the few games in the series where the mistranslations and such get actively defended. Point out the same shit when it’s Fates or Engage and it’s a different story
I wouldnt need to respond. This response from edeltarde is her being assmad shes being called out for causing all out war and essentially saying "no u".
Theres no need for words after this, just kill her.
By holding her hands with interlocking fingers and gently impregnating her
Would motherhood mellow Edelgard out?
impregnating villians has always been the solution