Zodiac theory hasn't been disproven, it's just way more of a stretch than it used to be. >inb4 "zodiacgay cope"
I don't believe zodiac theory, just stating fax.
Zodiac theory should have broken down in Gen 2, Cyndaquil's line is some conglomeration of Shrew and Badger; Rat isn't in the picture. And Fennekin isn't a dog either. That the Braindead have been trying to push this piece of Hokum for so long is truly embaressing.
The problem is Skeledirge covers so many options we can't really pin it down. Male crocodiles are called bulls and Skeledirge's design loosely resembles a music bOX. There's also the Basilisk angle, Basilisks being known as the King of Serpents (another word for snake). We won't know for sure which it's meant to be until the calendar is filled out, until then it's all just speculation.
Cyndaquil was literally shown in a Year of the Rat promo thing. Foxes are canids, close enough to dogs to count.
>The problem is Skeledirge covers so many options we can't really pin it down. Male crocodiles are called bulls and Skeledirge's design loosely resembles a music bOX
you can NOT be serious
really? "music bOX"? if the pattern implied animals cant be reused then id give it done with fuecoco.
fuecoco is based on everything regarding its skull and the ghost that gets birthed in his fire. + on crocodile and bird symbiosis. hence the chicken.
I'm only saying it's a possibility. Personally I believe the Basilisk theory is correct, but it's not set in stone. Depending how ambiguous the rest of the fire starters get we might not ever find out which is the correct interpretation. By the way Blaziken is the rooster. It's based on a fighting breed called an aseel.
>Cyndaquil's line is some conglomeration of Shrew and Badger; Rat isn't in the picture
The Pokedex outright calls it a mouse. >but it looks more like
Doesn't matter, still a mouse >Fennekin isn't a dog
Still a canine. This was the closest thing to a debunk zodiac deniers had before fuecoco and it's still basically just going "ummm akshually".
>Cyndaquil's line is some conglomeration of Shrew and Badger
It's an echidna. It's always been an echidna. It's one of the only two egg-laying mammals on Earth and from the gen that introduced breeding.
Zodiac theory should have broken down in Gen 2, Cyndaquil's line is some conglomeration of Shrew and Badger; Rat isn't in the picture. And Fennekin isn't a dog either. That the Braindead have been trying to push this piece of Hokum for so long is truly embaressing.
actually never mind. Zodiacgays are clearly the schizo'er of the 2
The problem is Skeledirge covers so many options we can't really pin it down. Male crocodiles are called bulls and Skeledirge's design loosely resembles a music bOX. There's also the Basilisk angle, Basilisks being known as the King of Serpents (another word for snake). We won't know for sure which it's meant to be until the calendar is filled out, until then it's all just speculation.
Cyndaquil was literally shown in a Year of the Rat promo thing. Foxes are canids, close enough to dogs to count.
This thread scares me that when DLC2 comes out for SV and Imagination theory is debunked, there will still be homosexuals shitting up this board with their moronation. How anyone can still believe in the Zodiac theory is beyond me.
Anon it's not even a theory at this point. It's blatantly obvious. Ask yourself if there's no relation to the zodiac then why are most (all) the Pokémon basis for fire type starters just coincidentally animals in the zodiac? You really think someone at GF went hmmm, what's a good animal for a fire type.... I know, a bunny rabbit! Come on now.
Even if your autism can't let you accept that the Fire Mouse Pokémon is a mouse, foxes are close enough to dogs, and Skeledirge is a Basilisk, there are still six direct matches. That's not coincidence, that's a pattern.
The Fire Starters all have more in common with Brazilian Soccer teams than Chinese Zodiac.
All 9 fit the soccer teams from Brazil, while only 6 fit the Chinese zodiac.
Even if your autism can't let you accept that the Fire Mouse Pokémon is a mouse, foxes are close enough to dogs, and Skeledirge is a Basilisk, there are still six direct matches. That's not coincidence, that's a pattern.
No matter how much you repeat the cope, foxes and dogs are not interchangeable and will never be. Echidnas are not rats. Fuecoco is a crocodile, and there's no snake angle. Cope and Seethe
What will your excuse be in the next games when the fire starter is a Horse? It's not as if Pokemon didn't already have pigs and rabbbits.
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The Fire Starters all have more in common with Brazilian Soccer teams than Chinese Zodiac.
All 9 fit the soccer teams from Brazil, while only 6 fit the Chinese zodiac.
>What will your excuse be in the next games when the fire starter is a Horse? It's not as if Pokemon didn't already have pigs and rabbbits.
Why would it matter if it's a horse? It doesn't make your shit that was debunked before it even began any more true.
How will you cope in Gen 10 when it's not a zodiac? Will you pretend a kangaroo is supposed to be a rabbit because it has long ears?
6/9 starters do not fit your autism pattern. No Cyndaquil is not a rat. Fennekin is a fox and foxes are not dogs. And Fuecoco is a crocodile. Cope and seethe
We already have a rabbit. Even though we already had several rabbit lines and nobody associates rabbits with fire. Just a huge coincidence like the other eight times in a row it happened.
>Even though we already had several rabbit lines and nobody associates rabbits with fire.
Rabbits actually have high body temperatures, so other than normal, fire makes most sense for rabbits.
>Pattern where 9 out of 9 Pokemon match soccer teams is stupid >Pattern where 6 out of 9 Pokemon match Zodiac animals is fine
btw anyone have that image comparing all the fire starters to brazilian football mascots?
>No, it isn't true! Anon bawls as the Fire/Fighting type Horse is revealed. Meds meds meds! He screams as the Steel/Fire Goat is just a few short years later
>You see guys, despite its name referencing rats in every language Raticate is actually based on a slightly different obscure South American rodent with webbed hind feet. There are no rat Pokémon you schizos.
Evidence for Zodiac pattern: >6 out if 9 of the fire starters match zodiac animals, all of which are popular animals anyways >Some unrelated shit that has nothing to do with anything
Evidence against Zodiac pattern: >Pattern is already broken multiple times >Gen 2 beta where original fire starter was a bear >Gen 2 was supposed to be the last gen >There being no similar pattern for the water and grass starters >In all other cases of Pokemon being based on something, they make it pretty fricking obvious its based on something >The amount of stretching you need to do for Typhlosion, Delphox, and Skeledirge is absurd compared to other fire starters, making the pattern inconsistent >Zodiacgays not knowing what regressional analysis is or how to use R >There not being enough data anyways because it’s only 9 gens to work off of >More plausable theories like Ditto being a failed clone of Mew being debunked >The fire starters have more association with other patterns because any homosexual can connect shit if they tried (ie. I can just say Fire Starters are based on Disney characters, which already is more valid than chinese Zodiac) >Zodiac shit started with Khu who hasn’t mentioned it (with his bullshit vague posting) ever since Fuecoco was revealed
>Zodiac shit started with Khu who hasn’t mentioned it (with his bullshit vague posting) ever since Fuecoco was revealed
disregarding everything else what the FRICK are you talking about, people haven't shut the frick up about it literally
since gen 3
>no water or grass pattern
Pretty much every single thing about your post is one hundred percent wrong so I'm not going to waste my time correcting you but the pattern for water is weapons and the pattern for grass is extinct animals.
Even less Water types fit weapon theory, and literally every Pokemon based on an animal could fit in the Extinction theory because every animal has extinct relatives. That’d be like saying there is a multicellular theory where all the starters are multiplecellular beings.
I hope they add some more interesting looking horsemons.
Mudsdale was awesome, but both Zebstrika and Rapidash are kinda bland and forgettable and Keldeo is locked behind shitty FOMO events.
I think the croc broke the chain.
I give the 2nd gen the excuse of them not expecting to get 10 games in but fuecoco is a bit of a stretch.
If next gen is a horse or sheep or snake i'm back on board though.
But for now i'll just insist that Fuecoco makes perfect sense just to piss people off because it's funny.
Zodiac theory hasn't been disproven, it's just way more of a stretch than it used to be.
>inb4 "zodiacgay cope"
I don't believe zodiac theory, just stating fax.
Zodiac theory should have broken down in Gen 2, Cyndaquil's line is some conglomeration of Shrew and Badger; Rat isn't in the picture. And Fennekin isn't a dog either. That the Braindead have been trying to push this piece of Hokum for so long is truly embaressing.
The problem is Skeledirge covers so many options we can't really pin it down. Male crocodiles are called bulls and Skeledirge's design loosely resembles a music bOX. There's also the Basilisk angle, Basilisks being known as the King of Serpents (another word for snake). We won't know for sure which it's meant to be until the calendar is filled out, until then it's all just speculation.
Cyndaquil was literally shown in a Year of the Rat promo thing. Foxes are canids, close enough to dogs to count.
>The problem is Skeledirge covers so many options we can't really pin it down. Male crocodiles are called bulls and Skeledirge's design loosely resembles a music bOX
you can NOT be serious
It's a possibility. GF loves subtle references.
really? "music bOX"? if the pattern implied animals cant be reused then id give it done with fuecoco.
fuecoco is based on everything regarding its skull and the ghost that gets birthed in his fire. + on crocodile and bird symbiosis. hence the chicken.
I'm only saying it's a possibility. Personally I believe the Basilisk theory is correct, but it's not set in stone. Depending how ambiguous the rest of the fire starters get we might not ever find out which is the correct interpretation. By the way Blaziken is the rooster. It's based on a fighting breed called an aseel.
total insanity. find a medical professional
>Cyndaquil was literally shown in a Year of the Rat promo thing.
Bidoof and Sandshrew are also rats now.
You need to take your meds like actually literally.
>Cyndaquil's line is some conglomeration of Shrew and Badger; Rat isn't in the picture
The Pokedex outright calls it a mouse.
>but it looks more like
Doesn't matter, still a mouse
>Fennekin isn't a dog
Still a canine. This was the closest thing to a debunk zodiac deniers had before fuecoco and it's still basically just going "ummm akshually".
>Cyndaquil's line is some conglomeration of Shrew and Badger
It's an echidna. It's always been an echidna. It's one of the only two egg-laying mammals on Earth and from the gen that introduced breeding.
All Pokémon create eggs. Even the ones that are dead people.
Cyndaquil is called the fire mouse Pokemon
Meant for
Call me when you start including Piloswine into the fire starter group.
zodiacgay cope
>fax
new way to spell autism?
zodiacgay cope
Skeledirge is a Snake with legs :^)
Hit the road, pal. Imagination is the new Zodiac and 10x more schizo somehow.
actually never mind. Zodiacgays are clearly the schizo'er of the 2
fuecoco is chicken x2
This thread scares me that when DLC2 comes out for SV and Imagination theory is debunked, there will still be homosexuals shitting up this board with their moronation. How anyone can still believe in the Zodiac theory is beyond me.
Anon it's not even a theory at this point. It's blatantly obvious. Ask yourself if there's no relation to the zodiac then why are most (all) the Pokémon basis for fire type starters just coincidentally animals in the zodiac? You really think someone at GF went hmmm, what's a good animal for a fire type.... I know, a bunny rabbit! Come on now.
The Fire Starters all have more in common with Brazilian Soccer teams than Chinese Zodiac.
All 9 fit the soccer teams from Brazil, while only 6 fit the Chinese zodiac.
Even if your autism can't let you accept that the Fire Mouse Pokémon is a mouse, foxes are close enough to dogs, and Skeledirge is a Basilisk, there are still six direct matches. That's not coincidence, that's a pattern.
No matter how much you repeat the cope, foxes and dogs are not interchangeable and will never be. Echidnas are not rats. Fuecoco is a crocodile, and there's no snake angle. Cope and Seethe
What will your excuse be in the next games when the fire starter is a Horse? It's not as if Pokemon didn't already have pigs and rabbbits.
That's dumb.
>What will your excuse be in the next games when the fire starter is a Horse? It's not as if Pokemon didn't already have pigs and rabbbits.
Why would it matter if it's a horse? It doesn't make your shit that was debunked before it even began any more true.
How will you cope in Gen 10 when it's not a zodiac? Will you pretend a kangaroo is supposed to be a rabbit because it has long ears?
6/9 starters do not fit your autism pattern. No Cyndaquil is not a rat. Fennekin is a fox and foxes are not dogs. And Fuecoco is a crocodile. Cope and seethe
We already have a rabbit. Even though we already had several rabbit lines and nobody associates rabbits with fire. Just a huge coincidence like the other eight times in a row it happened.
Ah yes the famous echidna and fox zodiac style
Classic zodiacBlack person projection at work
>Even though we already had several rabbit lines and nobody associates rabbits with fire.
Rabbits actually have high body temperatures, so other than normal, fire makes most sense for rabbits.
>Pattern where 9 out of 9 Pokemon match soccer teams is stupid
>Pattern where 6 out of 9 Pokemon match Zodiac animals is fine
btw anyone have that image comparing all the fire starters to brazilian football mascots?
fricking blaziken has more in common with a basilisk, just let it go
>No, it isn't true! Anon bawls as the Fire/Fighting type Horse is revealed. Meds meds meds! He screams as the Steel/Fire Goat is just a few short years later
>If we do enough mental gymnastics, the crocodile could be any of the 12 Zodiac actually, it's definitely not us coping about of schizo theory!
>You see guys, despite its name referencing rats in every language Raticate is actually based on a slightly different obscure South American rodent with webbed hind feet. There are no rat Pokémon you schizos.
>You see guys, Blastoise is the Shell Fish pokémon, so actually Blastoise is a clam and not a turtle sweaty :^)
The next gen will introduce another zodiac, and everyone will be back to claiming it's game freak's intention to finish it.
Evidence for Zodiac pattern:
>6 out if 9 of the fire starters match zodiac animals, all of which are popular animals anyways
>Some unrelated shit that has nothing to do with anything
Evidence against Zodiac pattern:
>Pattern is already broken multiple times
>Gen 2 beta where original fire starter was a bear
>Gen 2 was supposed to be the last gen
>There being no similar pattern for the water and grass starters
>In all other cases of Pokemon being based on something, they make it pretty fricking obvious its based on something
>The amount of stretching you need to do for Typhlosion, Delphox, and Skeledirge is absurd compared to other fire starters, making the pattern inconsistent
>Zodiacgays not knowing what regressional analysis is or how to use R
>There not being enough data anyways because it’s only 9 gens to work off of
>More plausable theories like Ditto being a failed clone of Mew being debunked
>The fire starters have more association with other patterns because any homosexual can connect shit if they tried (ie. I can just say Fire Starters are based on Disney characters, which already is more valid than chinese Zodiac)
>Zodiac shit started with Khu who hasn’t mentioned it (with his bullshit vague posting) ever since Fuecoco was revealed
>Zodiac shit started with Khu who hasn’t mentioned it (with his bullshit vague posting) ever since Fuecoco was revealed
disregarding everything else what the FRICK are you talking about, people haven't shut the frick up about it literally
since gen 3
>no water or grass pattern
Pretty much every single thing about your post is one hundred percent wrong so I'm not going to waste my time correcting you but the pattern for water is weapons and the pattern for grass is extinct animals.
>weapons
Feraligatr breaks this in gen 2
>extinct animals
Venusaur breaks this in gen 1
>Venusaur breaks this in gen 1
Pardon my french, but fricking WHAT? Feraligtr has brass knuckle things.
Toads aren't extinct moron, or are you one of those dipshits who thinks it's a dinosaur?
It's a type of synapsid that's why it has ears claws and fangs you absolute idiot
>it's a synapsid
No, it's a fricking toad.
not to mention there's an interview with ken sugimori where he flat out calls bulbasaur a toad
Do you mean the interview where he says it's based on a dicynodont, a type of synapsid
you must be referring to one that literally does not exist, because it's always been a fricking toad
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>Feraligtr has brass knuckle things.
man you're an expert at making shit up
>Feraligatr has brass knuckle things
It doesn't, and the whole "water types are weapons" thing is somehow even more autistic than zodiac shit
Even less Water types fit weapon theory, and literally every Pokemon based on an animal could fit in the Extinction theory because every animal has extinct relatives. That’d be like saying there is a multicellular theory where all the starters are multiplecellular beings.
You forgot the part where there was supposed to be a bunch of Pokemon themed around the zodiac in Gen 2 itself, one of which was Piloswine.
The only pattern for starter Pokemon is that they're almost always well-known marketable animals, and the zodiac has nothing but well-known animals.
I hope they add some more interesting looking horsemons.
Mudsdale was awesome, but both Zebstrika and Rapidash are kinda bland and forgettable and Keldeo is locked behind shitty FOMO events.
Isn't Keldeo now always available from SwSh DLC?
Literally fricking pay to win.
Yeah, but it is available in a permanent manner. Doesn't mean you need to do that, god knows I didn't.
I think the croc broke the chain.
I give the 2nd gen the excuse of them not expecting to get 10 games in but fuecoco is a bit of a stretch.
If next gen is a horse or sheep or snake i'm back on board though.
But for now i'll just insist that Fuecoco makes perfect sense just to piss people off because it's funny.