Well it pretty much tells you outright that the Illuminati is real and the Government is entirely evil.
That and all the cops are clones of the same group of dudes like Hardcore Henry.
>Because unlike modern games, the devs kept updating the game they made because they like it and its fanbase.
They tried to leave payday 2 twice and failed so miserably 3 was delayed and they had to shit out more dlc for 2 to pay for it
I honestly liked it bc it shares more similarities to payday the heist than 2 but it died really fast and they didn't update it at all. Saying that though like a week ago i think they updated it. probably a one off thing wasn't major
Yeah, I'd be willing to call that one troony a lass, the small conversations I had in DMs were fun, got to learn about the bigger picture for the community but I heard she was handing out keys on here and that landed her in hot water.
>but I heard she was handing out keys on here and that landed her in hot water.
IIRC she was sanctioned to do that as she did that on Reddit and Discord quite a bit and it wasn't like she was some fish out of water on Ganker since she was involved with /xivg/ during the Heavensward autism where c**ts stalked each other and cut themselves and posted that in the general
2 years ago
Anonymous
Whoa that general sounds frickin' wild, I'll admit I most stuck in TBOI and AC generals
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I'd be willing to call that one troony a lass, the small conversations I had in DMs were fun, got to learn about the bigger picture for the community but I heard she was handing out keys on here and that landed her in hot water.
>if a troony bribes me with 4 dollar DLC i'll call thema woman
lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, more so on merit. She was a delight to interact with even if it was occasional due to differing schedules. Besides I got my keys from that now troony gay connorshaw, kid was fun to talk to as well
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not really, they were just chill to chat with and was a surprising breath of fresh air since pretty much every troony I've interacted with has been insufferable
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, more so on merit. She was a delight to interact with even if it was occasional due to differing schedules. Besides I got my keys from that now troony gay connorshaw, kid was fun to talk to as well
Far better wording then me anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
wait Ash-kun was a troony?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, not all of them are insufferable c**ts. Most are though.
>unironically taking R*ddit opinions for granted
You really answered your own question there. Ashley was a chill gal that used to make funny shitposts in /pdg/ and gave out a handful of dlc keys every now and then. Iirc she also did a half-decent job forwarding actual player input and viewpoints to the designer team, since those dudes exclusively played on OVK difficulty and barely managed to finish their heists?
For all its jank PD2 stealth is actually a pretty pretty good modern day Thief game. The thing is it's like a sort of an extra game mode to do once every now and then? Something to do to get a small break from stressful heists, loud gunfightan and frantically clicking heads. You take maps you've run multiple times and approach them in a different way (stelt is mostly just map- and guard route knowledge).
And it's basically for solo play, extra people mostly means additional chances for being caught.
For me it's Clover. The bots can be whatever, I don't mind. Even the israeliteess, she haven't been too grating in stealth as far as I've noticed. That fat frick she's dating is the only character I've vetoed though.
Leech is alright. It's basically an alternative to Kingpin for those who were unable to get the Scarface DLCs when those were available, but they change it up slightly to have some group support via healing so it isn't redundant.
(you)
Now remove the pagers feggit or make the stealth mechanics function better than in 2. Let the fricking Ghost skill tree be able to disguise as one of the security guards so they can get into areas without setting off everyone. Give the Mastermind his fricking ability to carry more pager counts back. Let the Technician macguyver the van to be a motherfricking hot rod that can outrun the cops or modify his armor to be an Exosuit that lets him carry shit like the gold or engines with easy. Let the Enforcer get his rapesaw back and get more blades from ammo bags.
>procedural extra objectives on heists
like that armored car that can spawn in Reservoir Dogs Heist day 2 but for every heist and more dynamic, high risk and reward >be able to call for supply drops in mid-heist
including being able to change your whole gear or asking for extra gear, it would cost a lot and would take a few minutes to arrive >dynamic cops enemies events
rare spawns to add variety like a wannabe Cpt Winters bulldozer that spawns with several shields around him
A Cloaker that can make his annoying sound to every player in the heist when he is attacking one (the sound would be slightly different so you would know that you aren't being attacked)
A shield with two shields, front and back that can't shoot, a shield group doing roman formation You get the gist.
To Payday 3, not 2, dummy. I am just joking though, there's a very high chance Jacket won't be in Payday 3 ever unless the fans are very vocal about it.
This in addition to proper reloading controls would be perfect, it's the only thing missing from PD2 for me right now other than basic caliber conversion or ammo type stuff kinda like
PLEASE make the AMCAR not shit again. In fact please consolidate all AR-15 variants in one weapon with moddable barrel lengths, so I can have a cool carbine that's still useful.
Unless they've changed it the way reloading works is that there is a timer at your waist that follows the non-vr reload time of the weapon. Once it's up you can either shove the gun into the big "reload" square or you can pull the mag out and shove it into the weapon. This is okay in some ways, it's obviously much 1uicker for stuff like belt feds as opposed to the whole process, and the current perk system would lead to wasted points if you got any reload speed stuff, but I do feel like just allowing for a manual reload a la Pavlov or H3 would be good to have, even as an option. It feels more natural as a gunsgay and it is more physically skill based so doing that well will always feel better than just shoving your gun into a square at your hip.
PLEASE make the AMCAR not shit again. In fact please consolidate all AR-15 variants in one weapon with moddable barrel lengths, so I can have a cool carbine that's still useful.
Because there's literally nothing like it on the market. Still to this day there's nothing like PD:TH and PD2. They're both very different games but they might as well be the only ones in this co-op heisting genre that aren't shit games.
Definitely not real but I love this series too much to ignore a post like this. Please, for the love of God, drop the alien/supernatural sub-plot. Go back to what PD:TH and early PD2 was doing. Keep it the "campy heisting movie" feel the game used to have. There's nothing like Payday and it's probably my favorite series ever, and while I know PD3 is gonna be shit and they're definitely going to keep going the LAWLSORANDUM route with aliens and shit, I want nothing more but for PD3 to be a focused, centered and unbloated co-op game about taking it all and giving it to myself, nothing else. Also go back to PD:TH/Early PD2 styled balancing. Post Hoxton Housewarming Party PD2 is an absolute disgrace and Jules should be ashamed of what he did.
And finally get Ulf and Simon back in somehow, they were the lifeblood of Payday. I love this series. I really hope PD3 is good.
Make stealth more like Thief e.g. account for light and dark
remove pagers
Allow negotiations
Smarter enemy squad AI rather than hoards of cops rushing you
It would be cool af to literally tear a cop apart with a point blank heavy shotgun or a grenade, but it'll have to be used sparingly so it doesn't just become a DOOM the bag throwing WAD?
Honestly, make a character creation like Darktide will do.
The masks are the visual representation of whom you're playing anyway, let players create Their Own Dudes™ and mark this fresh and hopeful generation of newbie heisters as a rebirth of the Clown Gang.
Still, let old PD2 faces show up every now and then as contractors, mentors or just support for the new clowns. Most of them are familiar and popular characters after all.
Sounds reasonable? And rather than handholding the players too much they tease them (Sydney) or just give them a general headsup and cut the transmission short; "I'm confident you guys got this!" (Dallas)
>menu/UI
make good fricking menus and HUDs and UIs.
Jesus fricking christ i know the game is probably 10 years old but it's still horrible. >skills
make proper fricking skill trees that make sense. Split them into "weapons", "abilities" and "gear" and not the arbritrary class shit you got going on. Also make sentries fricking worth their skill points. Jokers are absolutely fricking better in every goddamn way except for not being instantly available. >perk decks
Remove the cards from perk decks that every perk deck has and make them infamy rewards, mongoloid. >DLC
stop selling guns or perk decks as DLC. Just sell cosmetics and heists. >RNG
Give us an RNG modifier that changes the randomly generated parts/events of a map. >steam
intigrate steam workshop. >difficulty
the metro series has a modifier for their difficulty that PD3 could benefit from: removing hud. Yeah, you need to fricking redo HUDs and make them better and you can also do this. Maybe make it a modifier like OD. Of course, you would have to implement systems to make it work (being able to manually check ammo and such) but it would be pretty cool. >cringe
stop being so cringe. Almir and Elizabeth overstayed their welcome. This interview-ish type of shit is fricking annoying. Make it a Nintendo Direct style of videos. Also lay off the marketing talk in your AMAs, its vexing as shit.
Like another anon said in a thread yesterday:
Overkill/Starbreeze are arrogant as shit and also incompetent.
Somehow, someway, the game is still fun. Imagine how much better it could be if ya had ya shit together.
oh and dont make LTM dlcs. AND DONT FRICKING MAKE crime FEST UNLESS YOU GOT GOOD CONTENT AND NOT SOME MARKETING OR SALES PLOY YOU ABSOLUTE FRICKING WANKSTAINS.
Make a mega mega kawaii mask. Then make a mega mega mega kawaii mask. Then make a mega mega mega mega kawaii mask. If shotguns and machine guns are terrible somehow or get nerfed then I hope payday 3 fails. Also hopefully assault rifles feel less mediocre.
Don't be israelites, no DLC's that cost money. If you want to make new content, it should either be free like video game patches used to be, or be proper expansion-sized content if you are gonna sell it for money (something like 12 new heists in an expansion you sell for $20-30, not this israeli motherfricking nickel-and-dime shit you are doing right now with $7 plus tax for ONE heist)
Do not design weapons like the post-crimefest shit, where everything is balanced "within a class" i.e high damage low pick up low rof, or low damage high pickup high rof, etc. All weapons should be entirely unique and have a reason for being used.
Improved stealth mission mechanics, allow players to kill all the guards and not worry about answering pagers, maybe give them a lesser rating/lesser rewards for doing so, and the highest stealth rewards come from not killing anybody at all. Maybe add a Hitman style disguise system.
Last but not least, BETTER FRICKING ANTICHEAT, the amount of times i have seen morons using pirateperfection to ruin the game is astronomical.
I always said they should fix the pager system by removing pagers (except for specially marked guards, so you have to plan around either avoiding them or killing only a certain number before running out of pagers) and in return add cleaner costs for killing guards, that way it still retains some value to doing pacifist stealth run.
that sounds good as long as the cleaner costs are meaningful, they are way too low in current PD2. imagine if you had to pay 250k or 500k every time you killed someone, you'd really want to avoid it
It's killing civvies in stelt that that costs money. But I rather like this idea! Most of us have a few gorillions in the vault by now and this would give going Stacy on civvies somewhat of an impact, making another day of ethnically cleansing H&T a dubious net gain?
It'd also encourage players to buy and test out new weapons to keep their funds at a level of manageable cleaner losses.
I want some missions to have stealth where it's a race against the clock. Always thought it was strange how as long as you weren't detected or raised any alarms, you could rob a bank in broad daylight. I believe stealth (for scenarios where it makes sense) should be a race against the clock, like how most heists in media actually are. Making mistakes should reduce the time on the clock that you have to actual stealth the mission, but with proper planning you can mitigate these mistakes.
But in order for this to really work then going loud has to be somewhat of a threat (and maybe not even the "default" way to play). Players should take into account the possibility of going loud and maybe even plan for it with a backup plan.
Unfortunately how payday 2 currently works you either build for stealth or build for loud, and if you trigger the alarm while playing stealth then you just reset the mission and try again. There's no incentive to continue with a mission going loud (especially because skills don't allow for this, grabbing all the good stealth skills does not leave much room for loud viability).
>How is it still maintaining a playerbase
Small cult following, really.
Majority of the mainstream jumped ship long ago. You don't see this game discussed anywhere anymore unless it's nostalgic recollection.
Doubt PD3's going to put it back into mainstream. I don't' see it pushing any envelopes, not with how braindead PD2 has become.
>thread gets me interested again >last played 2014 >enter game >all skills unassigned >perk deck? >utterly lost
I used to play tanky shotgunner, is that still a viable build? Might look into trying out other weapons too, what's a good generic skill and perk deck loadout while I learn to play the game again and goof around with the new weapon classes?
If you want to be tanky, Leech or Anarchist are the way to go perk deck-wise. Most shotguns are as good as ever, especially if you spec into Overkill and other shotgun skills. It's honestly hard to go wrong unless you go out of your way to do a meme build with special weapons.
the game is gay as frick and i would have completely dropped it already if i didnt have friends who played it >game isnt engaging/satisfying at all. you play as complete fricking buttholes who kill innocents with families just to steal shit because frick rules and society and civilization and shieeet >gang is so fricked you have ethan klein and ronny donny shit eater perlman in it >despite a million guns only a quarter of them are usable >despite a million skills there are only 3 actual builds: chad fatass juggernaut build, virgin small armour "dodge" build, and giga virgin stealth build >every virgin nerd you encounter is the same: they either play sydney or jacket, run at the speed of sound, use laser sighted akimbo smgs, and run the shotgun revolver with suppressor >highest difficulty is the anti thesis of fun, all enemies kill you in two shots >highest difficulty gameplay is completely unrecognizable; its nothing but autistic meta slavery and playing peek a boo with enemies >game is incredibly repetitive; gameplay is nothing but shooting the same enemies over and over in the head >not a SINGLE special enemy is fun to fight >half the heists will make you say "that was the worst heist ever", there is not a single good heist from pd1 >you dont play the game to make money, after 3 heists you have all the money you ever need to buy whatever you want, you play the game to level up and make your little builds which are all lack luster >stealthing is the most boring shit ever, its just you sitting there for 10 minutes straight waiting for your drill to finish while doing nothing >always forced to leave if the nerds in the match i just joined are stealthing because i actually want to play the game >vlad and locke are the most annoying motherfrickers ever; if i have to hear that queer say "meerky wauter" one more time imma lose it >what the actual frick is a "dwankie" >game is like a 100gb even though it looks cheap because umm it just is ok
good music and black actors though
You anon, yes (YOU) are a fun hating homosexual who just was born fricked in the head, some points you got right but others is just out right nit picking you autistic frick
One of the those game where it's objectively justified to pirate the DLC. The amount of DLC bootlickers on the Steam Forums/Reddit was fricking massive but it was hilarious when they get BTFO'd with Overkill introducing weapon skins/safes. The giant meltdown on the forums and seeing people shit on these brown nosers over defending Overkill/Starbreeze's bullshit was great. If you need any more damning proof, their "anti-cheat" does a better job at detecting people cheating in DLC over actual cheating. That's right, the guy pirating DLC will get a giant red cheater tag over their head but the guy spawning infinite medkits? Nothing.
i hope they add like 300 guns to the next game. frick it. it's some dudes who have access to the black market anyways. I want that good shit where you can't tell what the frick your crew mates took out of like 290 guns you havent bothered to research
It can be extremely fun for a while, it's really good at sucking you in and there are a lot of really good maps now. But it's getting pretty stale, admittedly. They need to get their heads out of their asses and release payday3 fast, because this game won't be popular forever.
It's fun. Fun to stealth around and steal shit, and fun to run around and shoot stuff. I wish there were more games like it. It's always only one or the other.
did they ever undo their moronic difficulty change where they made every enemy on higher difficulties a pure fricking bullet sponge, and the only way to play is to meta slave? I was already pissed at all the dumb shit they added but that pushed me out of the game for good years ago
Anyone find the Muscle perk deck still viable? I used to run a full tank LMG build with Muscle and the the mastermind skill that gives you regen when you have a converted officer/hostage. 7.5% health regen every 10 or so seconds was pretty neat, I played on the high difficulty at the time (which i think was just death wish?) and did pretty well with it. Haven't played in years though
I mainly run muscle in VR due to the lack of a hud so seeing things like a stoic timer is not as simple and it works fine, not as strong but it's perfectly fine on mayhem and as long as you aren't a shitter works well enough on DW
if the gays developing 3 are in this thread let me throw bags by just standing on them instead of having to pick them up first so players can form a human chain to move loot quickly
if the gays developing 3 are in this thread let me throw bags by just standing on them instead of having to pick them up first so players can form a human chain to move loot quickly
How about holding down a key that enables picking up while moving over them? If you pick up a bag while moving over them every time it would get inconvenient.
The bipods in this game are so weird. Only the LMGs can use bipods, right? Why is it even an option to NOT have a bipod? It's a straight upgrade. Why do all the gun models that in real life have unique bipods all instead have the same generic lion one that must be attached first? Not to mention the fact bipods straight out do not work sometimes, even crouching on a perfectly flat surface. LMG bros, why do they punish us so
I had forgotten about this holy shit
I'm mad again, frick you overkill you slimy c**ts
Although I do believe you're so inherently foul that telling the truth or being nice to the community would make you fricking turn to dust so I guess you have an excuse
Payday 2 is unironically the only game that managed to get stealth infiltration and no brain PVE at the same time while having an aesthetic. I cranked over 1000 hours in this shit and trust me almost all infamy 25 players would tell you the game is fricking shit but still play it once in a while. Also the ability to mod the game and the fact it's one of the easiest coop pve game you can jump in with friends like l4d2 makes it insanely replayable
the problem I'm noticing with foreign developers who make games based in America is they make things overly stereotypical and actually more woke than an american dev would
>get this game cheap with a friend >play a few matches >all we did was shoot the same braindead enemy over and over for like 15 minutes straight >barely any variety or challenge at all >uninstall
What's the appeal?
grug like gun
grug no like bad man
grug go unga bunga
grug happy
But grug am bad man in game
grug no bad man if grug take thing from other bad men
Grug belief right to keep and bear spear
yes, but grug still shoot bad man as bad man
Well it pretty much tells you outright that the Illuminati is real and the Government is entirely evil.
That and all the cops are clones of the same group of dudes like Hardcore Henry.
Because unlike modern games, the devs kept updating the game they made because they like it and its fanbase.
You see, they need their payday
too
Still fricking kino delivery, and I'm sick and tired of pretending it wasn't.
That guy can only play one character (Himself) but it doesn't matter because he's ace at being a sinister bastard.
What rock are you living under?
>Because unlike modern games, the devs kept updating the game they made because they like it and its fanbase.
They tried to leave payday 2 twice and failed so miserably 3 was delayed and they had to shit out more dlc for 2 to pay for it
The walking dead thing. What was the other?
Raid or something, some sort of Inglorious Basterds thing.
What?
It was more or less a PDTH total conversion by their subsidiary Lion Game Lion. I don't think it was ever supposed to take over Payday 2
Raid World War II
i don't think i've seen anyone really play it, was it that bad?
Side by side with Payday 2 yes it was just flat out worse
I honestly liked it bc it shares more similarities to payday the heist than 2 but it died really fast and they didn't update it at all. Saying that though like a week ago i think they updated it. probably a one off thing wasn't major
>was it that bad?
wasn't bad it was just a shittier version of payday with significantly less content
while this is true, they also bought themselves out of their publisher so they could stop having monetized loot boxes in the game
>because they like it and its fanbase.
bait or newbie
Because despite all its missteps, it is a REALLY good game at its core.
This.
Ashley was honestly too good for /pdg/. Unironically cute voice too.
What happened with Ashley can some one gimme the run down? I had her on steam but she did it purge it seems
I think she just quit Overkill. Honestly the most chill troony I've ever met
Yeah, I'd be willing to call that one troony a lass, the small conversations I had in DMs were fun, got to learn about the bigger picture for the community but I heard she was handing out keys on here and that landed her in hot water.
>but I heard she was handing out keys on here and that landed her in hot water.
IIRC she was sanctioned to do that as she did that on Reddit and Discord quite a bit and it wasn't like she was some fish out of water on Ganker since she was involved with /xivg/ during the Heavensward autism where c**ts stalked each other and cut themselves and posted that in the general
Whoa that general sounds frickin' wild, I'll admit I most stuck in TBOI and AC generals
>if a troony bribes me with 4 dollar DLC i'll call thema woman
lmao
Nah, more so on merit. She was a delight to interact with even if it was occasional due to differing schedules. Besides I got my keys from that now troony gay connorshaw, kid was fun to talk to as well
Not really, they were just chill to chat with and was a surprising breath of fresh air since pretty much every troony I've interacted with has been insufferable
Far better wording then me anon.
wait Ash-kun was a troony?
Yeah, not all of them are insufferable c**ts. Most are though.
Qrd? Reddit makes it sound like she is a stupid b***h.
>unironically taking R*ddit opinions for granted
You really answered your own question there. Ashley was a chill gal that used to make funny shitposts in /pdg/ and gave out a handful of dlc keys every now and then. Iirc she also did a half-decent job forwarding actual player input and viewpoints to the designer team, since those dudes exclusively played on OVK difficulty and barely managed to finish their heists?
Because it is a good game
And has a great fricking soundtrack too
you imbecile
I miss Simon Viklund.
i think he said he would come back for payday 3 if they asked him to
i miss simon too and the former troony mod because free dlc lmao
I do too, but Gustavo Coutinho has been a pretty great fill in for the newer DLCs
because its still fun
i like doing the stealth
For all its jank PD2 stealth is actually a pretty pretty good modern day Thief game. The thing is it's like a sort of an extra game mode to do once every now and then? Something to do to get a small break from stressful heists, loud gunfightan and frantically clicking heads. You take maps you've run multiple times and approach them in a different way (stelt is mostly just map- and guard route knowledge).
And it's basically for solo play, extra people mostly means additional chances for being caught.
PD2 stealth is shit and you should feel ashamed to sell shit. PD2 is to go blazing guns and get rich.
aliens
Scarface, Hox, Sydney, Sangres
Is there anyway to get the Scarface DLC still?
dlc unlocker could still work
buy a key
there are a frickton of reseller keys with just the dlc or with the whole "old dlcs" package for around 10$
For me it's Clover. The bots can be whatever, I don't mind. Even the israeliteess, she haven't been too grating in stealth as far as I've noticed. That fat frick she's dating is the only character I've vetoed though.
for me its rust. i just wish the breaker wouldn't be such a useless piece of shit
Shame his perk deck sucks.
does anyone even use anything besides rogue, stoic or hacker anymore?
Is sicario still good? I liked being able to wear heavy armor and still dodge half off all shots at the same time.
i haven't seen sicario at all recently, stoic + hostage taker aced is just so broken that any moron can do DWOD you don't even need to dodge anymore
yeah its still pretty fun and good for objectives
Anarchist and Kingpin are also meta slaves
kingpin is fun but for me personally anarchist is too bad at sniper heavy maps since i prefer shotgun builds
haven't really tried leech yet, but crook and grinder are underrated decks imo
Leech is alright. It's basically an alternative to Kingpin for those who were unable to get the Scarface DLCs when those were available, but they change it up slightly to have some group support via healing so it isn't redundant.
Leech, the new free one, is the new hotness. It's kinda like a mix between Crook and Grinder.
I always run sociopath
>YO LITTLE DONNIE
DSOD loud is too addicting that shit is clearly a meme difficulty meant for the cheevos and masks yet somehow i keep joining public goat sim lobbies
constant updates and DLC
Curious does that game have the vault lootboxes system I haven't played the game since the moronic h3h3 dlc
not anymore, you just get the weapon skins as a normal drop after a heist.
For myself I'm at the point I know most missions like the back of my hand so I play it when I want to listen to friend simulators
I use Ex-President.
>they won't update the console versions ever again
I just want the new guns
is the handgun with the underbarrel shotgun good?
Payday III dev here (for real)
Give me your suggestions for Payday III.
dicky mask, comissioned from japanese artists
based
shitters
(you)
Now remove the pagers feggit or make the stealth mechanics function better than in 2. Let the fricking Ghost skill tree be able to disguise as one of the security guards so they can get into areas without setting off everyone. Give the Mastermind his fricking ability to carry more pager counts back. Let the Technician macguyver the van to be a motherfricking hot rod that can outrun the cops or modify his armor to be an Exosuit that lets him carry shit like the gold or engines with easy. Let the Enforcer get his rapesaw back and get more blades from ammo bags.
give fug triple wield guns and brothers keeper back
what? reasons to be a full team and not remove the liability and have better luck solo? no way can they take these good suggestions!
e-girl heisters
nephilim heisters
Bank Heists.
Give us the ability to increase our pager limits back or remove them entirely. It's not fun or challenging,
get rid of stealth
remove the top floor office terminals in big bank homosexual
Fire the team that balanced 2
Holy shit this I haven't played since the patch that tripled enemy health
you can faceroll death sentence with the akimbo auto pistol build
Make sure it's well optimized, you stupid fricks.
i'd like to get more bags in overdrill, 1 hour of hauling gold is just not enough
>procedural extra objectives on heists
like that armored car that can spawn in Reservoir Dogs Heist day 2 but for every heist and more dynamic, high risk and reward
>be able to call for supply drops in mid-heist
including being able to change your whole gear or asking for extra gear, it would cost a lot and would take a few minutes to arrive
>dynamic cops enemies events
rare spawns to add variety like a wannabe Cpt Winters bulldozer that spawns with several shields around him
A Cloaker that can make his annoying sound to every player in the heist when he is attacking one (the sound would be slightly different so you would know that you aren't being attacked)
A shield with two shields, front and back that can't shoot, a shield group doing roman formation You get the gist.
>A shield with two shields
>procedural generation for standard simple heists (no turning Four Stores street nor H&T into a warzone for the 1,426th time)
Hire this guy
Bring Jacket back into the game. I doubt Dennaton or Devolver will make a fuss about it, just do it.
>Bring Jacket back into the game.
was he removed? I haven't played since the infamy update
To Payday 3, not 2, dummy. I am just joking though, there's a very high chance Jacket won't be in Payday 3 ever unless the fans are very vocal about it.
make it so it's easy to update it on consoles too
Payday 3 is using Unreal Engine. It should be easy for them to port over the game to consoles now.
Make armor actual armor
Post a video of you flogging everyone who thought Ethan and Hila being added to the game was a good idea
If you add a VR mode again (pls do) make it possible to manually pump shotguns and pull the bolt on snipers
This in addition to proper reloading controls would be perfect, it's the only thing missing from PD2 for me right now other than basic caliber conversion or ammo type stuff kinda like
>proper reloading controls
What exactly do you mean?
Unless they've changed it the way reloading works is that there is a timer at your waist that follows the non-vr reload time of the weapon. Once it's up you can either shove the gun into the big "reload" square or you can pull the mag out and shove it into the weapon. This is okay in some ways, it's obviously much 1uicker for stuff like belt feds as opposed to the whole process, and the current perk system would lead to wasted points if you got any reload speed stuff, but I do feel like just allowing for a manual reload a la Pavlov or H3 would be good to have, even as an option. It feels more natural as a gunsgay and it is more physically skill based so doing that well will always feel better than just shoving your gun into a square at your hip.
I'm honestly fine with the way it works, sure it's not realistic, but it fits the gameplay imo
PLEASE make the AMCAR not shit again. In fact please consolidate all AR-15 variants in one weapon with moddable barrel lengths, so I can have a cool carbine that's still useful.
Jax from Sons of Anarchy
instead of having h3h3 dlc have toby fox dlc
Hitler as a crew member
minorities, israelites, homosexuals as cops
>minorities
But I don't want to keep shooting white men. Make them black instead.
scrub everyone knows the police units above baby difficulty have their entire body covered
hire simon viklund and do what he says
make it so you could hear every enemy footstep such as the bulldozers making noise when they run
Because there's literally nothing like it on the market. Still to this day there's nothing like PD:TH and PD2. They're both very different games but they might as well be the only ones in this co-op heisting genre that aren't shit games.
Definitely not real but I love this series too much to ignore a post like this. Please, for the love of God, drop the alien/supernatural sub-plot. Go back to what PD:TH and early PD2 was doing. Keep it the "campy heisting movie" feel the game used to have. There's nothing like Payday and it's probably my favorite series ever, and while I know PD3 is gonna be shit and they're definitely going to keep going the LAWLSORANDUM route with aliens and shit, I want nothing more but for PD3 to be a focused, centered and unbloated co-op game about taking it all and giving it to myself, nothing else. Also go back to PD:TH/Early PD2 styled balancing. Post Hoxton Housewarming Party PD2 is an absolute disgrace and Jules should be ashamed of what he did.
And finally get Ulf and Simon back in somehow, they were the lifeblood of Payday. I love this series. I really hope PD3 is good.
Make stealth more like Thief e.g. account for light and dark
remove pagers
Allow negotiations
Smarter enemy squad AI rather than hoards of cops rushing you
L4D2 style gore system
It would be cool af to literally tear a cop apart with a point blank heavy shotgun or a grenade, but it'll have to be used sparingly so it doesn't just become a DOOM the bag throwing WAD?
payday is already nuts.wad with drills
say yes every time
Let us move cop hostages and give an additional bonus for non-lethal runs.
Honestly, make a character creation like Darktide will do.
The masks are the visual representation of whom you're playing anyway, let players create Their Own Dudes™ and mark this fresh and hopeful generation of newbie heisters as a rebirth of the Clown Gang.
Still, let old PD2 faces show up every now and then as contractors, mentors or just support for the new clowns. Most of them are familiar and popular characters after all.
Also don't make them jobbers. Ever. Not even once. They're supposed to be veterans.
Sounds reasonable? And rather than handholding the players too much they tease them (Sydney) or just give them a general headsup and cut the transmission short; "I'm confident you guys got this!" (Dallas)
Give us customizble heisters
A collapsible hand cart that lets you carry up to 3 bags at a time, which takes up your throwable slot.
make anarchist better, also I want more crits, and more kino music
>anarchist
>make it better
What? It already is one of the strongest perk decks in the game. What else does it need?
>menu/UI
make good fricking menus and HUDs and UIs.
Jesus fricking christ i know the game is probably 10 years old but it's still horrible.
>skills
make proper fricking skill trees that make sense. Split them into "weapons", "abilities" and "gear" and not the arbritrary class shit you got going on. Also make sentries fricking worth their skill points. Jokers are absolutely fricking better in every goddamn way except for not being instantly available.
>perk decks
Remove the cards from perk decks that every perk deck has and make them infamy rewards, mongoloid.
>DLC
stop selling guns or perk decks as DLC. Just sell cosmetics and heists.
>RNG
Give us an RNG modifier that changes the randomly generated parts/events of a map.
>steam
intigrate steam workshop.
>difficulty
the metro series has a modifier for their difficulty that PD3 could benefit from: removing hud. Yeah, you need to fricking redo HUDs and make them better and you can also do this. Maybe make it a modifier like OD. Of course, you would have to implement systems to make it work (being able to manually check ammo and such) but it would be pretty cool.
>cringe
stop being so cringe. Almir and Elizabeth overstayed their welcome. This interview-ish type of shit is fricking annoying. Make it a Nintendo Direct style of videos. Also lay off the marketing talk in your AMAs, its vexing as shit.
Like another anon said in a thread yesterday:
Overkill/Starbreeze are arrogant as shit and also incompetent.
Somehow, someway, the game is still fun. Imagine how much better it could be if ya had ya shit together.
oh and dont make LTM dlcs. AND DONT FRICKING MAKE crime FEST UNLESS YOU GOT GOOD CONTENT AND NOT SOME MARKETING OR SALES PLOY YOU ABSOLUTE FRICKING WANKSTAINS.
Make a mega mega kawaii mask. Then make a mega mega mega kawaii mask. Then make a mega mega mega mega kawaii mask.
If shotguns and machine guns are terrible somehow or get nerfed then I hope payday 3 fails. Also hopefully assault rifles feel less mediocre.
Don't be israelites, no DLC's that cost money. If you want to make new content, it should either be free like video game patches used to be, or be proper expansion-sized content if you are gonna sell it for money (something like 12 new heists in an expansion you sell for $20-30, not this israeli motherfricking nickel-and-dime shit you are doing right now with $7 plus tax for ONE heist)
Do not design weapons like the post-crimefest shit, where everything is balanced "within a class" i.e high damage low pick up low rof, or low damage high pickup high rof, etc. All weapons should be entirely unique and have a reason for being used.
Improved stealth mission mechanics, allow players to kill all the guards and not worry about answering pagers, maybe give them a lesser rating/lesser rewards for doing so, and the highest stealth rewards come from not killing anybody at all. Maybe add a Hitman style disguise system.
Last but not least, BETTER FRICKING ANTICHEAT, the amount of times i have seen morons using pirateperfection to ruin the game is astronomical.
I always said they should fix the pager system by removing pagers (except for specially marked guards, so you have to plan around either avoiding them or killing only a certain number before running out of pagers) and in return add cleaner costs for killing guards, that way it still retains some value to doing pacifist stealth run.
that sounds good as long as the cleaner costs are meaningful, they are way too low in current PD2. imagine if you had to pay 250k or 500k every time you killed someone, you'd really want to avoid it
Cleaner costs for guards should scale to the money that you have. That way it's actually impactful if you HAVE to kill a guard
It's killing civvies in stelt that that costs money. But I rather like this idea! Most of us have a few gorillions in the vault by now and this would give going Stacy on civvies somewhat of an impact, making another day of ethnically cleansing H&T a dubious net gain?
It'd also encourage players to buy and test out new weapons to keep their funds at a level of manageable cleaner losses.
>Don't be israelites, no DLC's that cost money
Actually sounds like you're the israelite here, demanding freebies and handouts?
Are you lost? You're currently on Ganker Ganker if you somehow couldn't figure that out.
I want some missions to have stealth where it's a race against the clock. Always thought it was strange how as long as you weren't detected or raised any alarms, you could rob a bank in broad daylight. I believe stealth (for scenarios where it makes sense) should be a race against the clock, like how most heists in media actually are. Making mistakes should reduce the time on the clock that you have to actual stealth the mission, but with proper planning you can mitigate these mistakes.
But in order for this to really work then going loud has to be somewhat of a threat (and maybe not even the "default" way to play). Players should take into account the possibility of going loud and maybe even plan for it with a backup plan.
Unfortunately how payday 2 currently works you either build for stealth or build for loud, and if you trigger the alarm while playing stealth then you just reset the mission and try again. There's no incentive to continue with a mission going loud (especially because skills don't allow for this, grabbing all the good stealth skills does not leave much room for loud viability).
>How is it still maintaining a playerbase
Small cult following, really.
Majority of the mainstream jumped ship long ago. You don't see this game discussed anywhere anymore unless it's nostalgic recollection.
Doubt PD3's going to put it back into mainstream. I don't' see it pushing any envelopes, not with how braindead PD2 has become.
30k avg monthly players is not a small cult following but i agree with the rest of what u said
>Small cult following, really.
lol. lmao, even
compare this to VT2 or DRG
this is what happens when you give away a million copies of your game for free and constantly have it on sale for a dollar
>Small cult following
That would fit PDTH more, let's be real.
>thread gets me interested again
>last played 2014
>enter game
>all skills unassigned
>perk deck?
>utterly lost
I used to play tanky shotgunner, is that still a viable build? Might look into trying out other weapons too, what's a good generic skill and perk deck loadout while I learn to play the game again and goof around with the new weapon classes?
If you want to be tanky, Leech or Anarchist are the way to go perk deck-wise. Most shotguns are as good as ever, especially if you spec into Overkill and other shotgun skills. It's honestly hard to go wrong unless you go out of your way to do a meme build with special weapons.
Thanks anons.
>tanky shotgunner
Yes, shotguns are still op, even after the nerfs, use leech, stoic or anarchist if you wanna tank, snipers and lmgs are good too.
the game is gay as frick and i would have completely dropped it already if i didnt have friends who played it
>game isnt engaging/satisfying at all. you play as complete fricking buttholes who kill innocents with families just to steal shit because frick rules and society and civilization and shieeet
>gang is so fricked you have ethan klein and ronny donny shit eater perlman in it
>despite a million guns only a quarter of them are usable
>despite a million skills there are only 3 actual builds: chad fatass juggernaut build, virgin small armour "dodge" build, and giga virgin stealth build
>every virgin nerd you encounter is the same: they either play sydney or jacket, run at the speed of sound, use laser sighted akimbo smgs, and run the shotgun revolver with suppressor
>highest difficulty is the anti thesis of fun, all enemies kill you in two shots
>highest difficulty gameplay is completely unrecognizable; its nothing but autistic meta slavery and playing peek a boo with enemies
>game is incredibly repetitive; gameplay is nothing but shooting the same enemies over and over in the head
>not a SINGLE special enemy is fun to fight
>half the heists will make you say "that was the worst heist ever", there is not a single good heist from pd1
>you dont play the game to make money, after 3 heists you have all the money you ever need to buy whatever you want, you play the game to level up and make your little builds which are all lack luster
>stealthing is the most boring shit ever, its just you sitting there for 10 minutes straight waiting for your drill to finish while doing nothing
>always forced to leave if the nerds in the match i just joined are stealthing because i actually want to play the game
>vlad and locke are the most annoying motherfrickers ever; if i have to hear that queer say "meerky wauter" one more time imma lose it
>what the actual frick is a "dwankie"
>game is like a 100gb even though it looks cheap because umm it just is ok
good music and black actors though
You anon, yes (YOU) are a fun hating homosexual who just was born fricked in the head, some points you got right but others is just out right nit picking you autistic frick
>though
One of the those game where it's objectively justified to pirate the DLC. The amount of DLC bootlickers on the Steam Forums/Reddit was fricking massive but it was hilarious when they get BTFO'd with Overkill introducing weapon skins/safes. The giant meltdown on the forums and seeing people shit on these brown nosers over defending Overkill/Starbreeze's bullshit was great. If you need any more damning proof, their "anti-cheat" does a better job at detecting people cheating in DLC over actual cheating. That's right, the guy pirating DLC will get a giant red cheater tag over their head but the guy spawning infinite medkits? Nothing.
Just wait for them to release another big dlc bundle for 20 bucks
dallas mains rise up btw
ahhhhhhhhhhh
i hope they add like 300 guns to the next game. frick it. it's some dudes who have access to the black market anyways. I want that good shit where you can't tell what the frick your crew mates took out of like 290 guns you havent bothered to research
It's fun
Also it's one of the best VR shooters out there
I don't know how Ovk pulled it off but they did great
GET THE FRICK UP
It can be extremely fun for a while, it's really good at sucking you in and there are a lot of really good maps now. But it's getting pretty stale, admittedly. They need to get their heads out of their asses and release payday3 fast, because this game won't be popular forever.
I just hope they make payday 3 stealth not just following objectives
It's fun. Fun to stealth around and steal shit, and fun to run around and shoot stuff. I wish there were more games like it. It's always only one or the other.
rrerr
Been a long time since seen that
it has the same aura of tf2 in the sense that its a game 12 year olds get when they get a decent pc and it just keeps repeating
also 50% of the playerbase is russia/shit ping people
I remeber doing RATS in 10 minutes and getting a bagillion xp and $$$
Good Times
i checked connor shaw's twitter, can someone give me a qrd on why he went off the deep end?
too much internet/twitter/discord/whatever
his videos get like 3 digit views now idk what his game is
This game is just like Left 4 Dead.
>if you get bitten by a cop... you BECOME a cop
>added a "steal Trump votes mission" after the 2020 election
that killed any desire to try this game
Election day is from 2014.
>secondaries willingly outing and embarrassing themselves
also the politician you're working for is black lol
Yeah how did that guy really dodge the COOF, what with fighting pandemic prevention and calling it a librul hoax...?
Haven't played in ages. In Sydneys perk deck still the best combat deck?
Anarchist? Idk if it's the absolute best but Frenzy/Crit/Anarchist is still one of the best and most reliable builds there is, yeah.
I haven't played for a while. Is it true that the VR user mod doesn't work anymore? Because the game isn't playable in VR without that mod.
VR improvements works fine for me
One of the few games where shotguns feel satisfying to use. And the shotgun build is hilarious fun.
It just does.
Is this game alive on Xbox at all?
I kind of want to try it on my Series X.
did they ever undo their moronic difficulty change where they made every enemy on higher difficulties a pure fricking bullet sponge, and the only way to play is to meta slave? I was already pissed at all the dumb shit they added but that pushed me out of the game for good years ago
Please stop making payday threads it makes me want to reinstall and I regret it every time I do
Anyone find the Muscle perk deck still viable? I used to run a full tank LMG build with Muscle and the the mastermind skill that gives you regen when you have a converted officer/hostage. 7.5% health regen every 10 or so seconds was pretty neat, I played on the high difficulty at the time (which i think was just death wish?) and did pretty well with it. Haven't played in years though
I mainly run muscle in VR due to the lack of a hud so seeing things like a stoic timer is not as simple and it works fine, not as strong but it's perfectly fine on mayhem and as long as you aren't a shitter works well enough on DW
Muscle is far from the most optimal pick but iirc it kinda works. At least it's not Crew Chief.
I still run a LMG muscle build and it works like a charm as long as I'm not playing DSOD but then again every build is viable if you're not doing DSOD
Is it? I haven't played since 2015, should I reinstall?
ashley gave me a couple of mask codes so she is cute and valid in my book
if the gays developing 3 are in this thread let me throw bags by just standing on them instead of having to pick them up first so players can form a human chain to move loot quickly
to add to this let me carry multiple bags for a stacking speed debuff so I can mule shit when pubbies are being morons
I like this idea Anon, I fully support it.
How about holding down a key that enables picking up while moving over them? If you pick up a bag while moving over them every time it would get inconvenient.
I literally just want a separate key that throws bags where you're looking if you're standing on one
The bipods in this game are so weird. Only the LMGs can use bipods, right? Why is it even an option to NOT have a bipod? It's a straight upgrade. Why do all the gun models that in real life have unique bipods all instead have the same generic lion one that must be attached first? Not to mention the fact bipods straight out do not work sometimes, even crouching on a perfectly flat surface. LMG bros, why do they punish us so
Oh that silly Matt!
>DON'T LET HIM GET AWAY!
I had forgotten about this holy shit
I'm mad again, frick you overkill you slimy c**ts
Although I do believe you're so inherently foul that telling the truth or being nice to the community would make you fricking turn to dust so I guess you have an excuse
I wish there was more good touhou payday art
posting the classic that started it all
Wish I could play this game, if it wasn't such an unoptimised mess.
Payday 2 is unironically the only game that managed to get stealth infiltration and no brain PVE at the same time while having an aesthetic. I cranked over 1000 hours in this shit and trust me almost all infamy 25 players would tell you the game is fricking shit but still play it once in a while. Also the ability to mod the game and the fact it's one of the easiest coop pve game you can jump in with friends like l4d2 makes it insanely replayable
It's still fun even through all the frickups Overkill have done and co-op games I can sometimes get people to play is still rare somehow.
the problem I'm noticing with foreign developers who make games based in America is they make things overly stereotypical and actually more woke than an american dev would
>get this game cheap with a friend
>play a few matches
>all we did was shoot the same braindead enemy over and over for like 15 minutes straight
>barely any variety or challenge at all
>uninstall
What's the appeal?
...did you try any other heists than israeliteStore or 4Stores?
any pd2 modders?
it's a good game and there isn't any other video game that does what PD2 does except for payday: the heist, which is older and jankier
The crouch jumping shit looks ridiculous