>Ah yes, let's compare a 90's gameboy niche game sales to a current era of mainstream young adult normies buying shit out of nostalgia
Also >implying Sales = good
>33% by Creatures
What do they even do? I've heard the name of this company everytime Pokemon's ownership is brought up, but is their role in the franchise?
Seeing as how every Nintendo game EXCEPT pokemon has been an industry breaking success critically and financially (pokemon has only achieved the latter), I'd say zero. And snoys can keep seething about it while playing joggerman2
More like 100%, the only Switch games to do better than Pokemon is Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Smellda, and Trash.
Even the Mario platformers are getting mogged by Swsh and SV.
>Blame the company that Nintendo controls a third of
well then they sure are doing a terrible job of resisting the Pokemon companys plans to shit out games every year
The pokemon company was literally made to be independent you moron. They didn't even want pokemon to be on the switch and was going to be just a mobile game for phones. They are that moronic.
No anon. They didn't. In fact, TPC are in no way involved in Game Freak and Nintendo's contract for games for Nintendo's systems, because aside from shitting out merch, a tv show and cards to support it, TPC have no input into the production of Game Freak's games beyond being told to fricking get ready to market them to the morons of the world.
Game Freak have staffers in TPC (not Masuda, people still listed as GF employees) who's job it is is to tell TPC how to present the creatures Game Freak creates for THEIR kiddy game series. TPC is a marketing department, created to let Game Freak and Nintendo concentrate on their stated purposes of making video games.
No, because they could only develop for what hardware Nintendo sold and Nintendo didn't care about making the most powerful handheld to get Game Freak up to speed regrading industry standard, because their biggest handheld IP was one aimed at moron kids supported by a tv show, merch and other associated crap, so they didn't NEED to waste money on the system to do that.
The issue is they being held back so long means when they try to play catch up, you stupid Black folk think they should be on bleeding edge already. Doesn't work like that, no c**t here could walk into any dev house and actually be on-trend enough to filter in and be good at vidya development.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ok but why do PS2 games look better than SV.
or we can skip that question and ignore system restraints entirely
WHERE THE FRICK IS THE GAMEPLAY
3 months ago
Anonymous
They don't, but you're a disingenuous little shithead child, mad pokémon hasn't needed you since you were 13 so you need to say something to slight them.
Do they match industry bleeding edge? No. Do they look better than 20 year old games, absolutely so long as we're talking the original release and not remasters or remakes for the modern.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You never addressed my other point that I had in all caps. I don't even care for graphics that much, I'm just calling you out for extreme bullshit. You're too busy being a white knight moron. Which is funny because I was accused of that earlier when I was talking shit on pal world, even though I didn't say anything good about nintendo
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh Jesus, the hardware is weak argument. Black person, we've seen far better games made with far weaker hardware, both in terms of features and graphics and stability. SV is a piece of hog shit and blaming the Switch for it simply masks GF's ineptitude.
Creatures have less input than Nintendo and had from the start where they fronted Tajiri money to finish, in return for having their name listed in the initial splash page with nintendo.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Don't they make the models for GF?
3 months ago
Anonymous
then why did gamefreak even bother using that as an excuse during the SwSh Dexit thing?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because normalgays don't know about that so GF can get away with being lazy
3 months ago
Anonymous
Don't they make the models for GF?
they also make all the pokemon merch, the anime, manga, card game, etc. creatures absolutely could be at blame, but i also suspect that stereotypical japanese wageslave mentality could be preventing creatures and gamefreak from working out something more reasonable.
3 months ago
Anonymous
What they need to do is put their foot down and tell TPC and Ishihara to deal with it
3 months ago
Anonymous
What they need to do is put their foot down and tell TPC and Ishihara to deal with it
I tried tell you gaijin, pocket monster game for handhehrd, i tell you we no make game for switch! Then switch big popurar, now we make big consore game, now no time to make, now you play a pile a shit!
>Makes money by doing nothing.
Why Nintendo even need to act? Also they thought switch was gonna be a failure and were betting on pokemon go and phones games to be the new money making. https://www.businessinsider.com/pokemon-ceo-tsunekazu-ishiharan-nintendo-switch-fail-2017-9
>taking the word of a CEO reported in a capitalist paper at face value in the year 1445 of Allah's revelation
3 months ago
Anonymous
>CEO likes money
Oh the horror!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not the point. The point is that CEO's lie and have no qualms about lying if it gets them to have more money. But you probably know that already and just enjoy being a tool. May Allah help you find reason.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Lying about what exactly? Dude pokemon go was a massive success. the logic about abandoning handhelds for phones makes sense.
What "fall off"? Explain yourself and why you think that.
Because where I'm sitting, this thing hasn't changed one bit yet homosexual teenagers suddenly think it's somehow gonna die, because a game they are more interested in launched.
thread has nothing to do with palworld, a fall off as in it's very apparent the games have fallen below peoples standards. You can argue when it started but the problem has no doubt come to a head during the switch era. People are disillusioned with the games and recognize them to be just a way to usher in the next line of merchandise.
You can say that it's always been that way, but it doesn't change the fact that overall feelings about the games are more negative than they've ever been before, and it's more obvious than ever that they aren't getting the amount of time, polish, and fleshing out that they need.
That has ALWAYS been the case, you dumb c**t. The internet letting the minority make noise will mot change the fact moron 7 year old kids WILL eat it up and casual adults the same (cf RS being the highest selling games on GBA, as adults ignored the console, leaving millions of moron kids and casuals to champion the system)
>The internet letting the minority make noise will mot change the fact moron 7 year old kids WILL eat it up and casual adults the same
Of course people are buying and of course they always will. But are you saying that the games are just as unpolished, rushed, and cobbled together as they've always been? There's been zero change in quality in your opinion?
It took them 6 years to release RG anon. And at that, it was STILL basic as frick graphics ,despite 6 years' experience working with a game boy dev kit. They always lagged behind, just because they're lagging behind in 3D doesn't mean a frick, else it would gave died off 4 years ago as people saw what they were doing vs the rest the industry, not outsell a pokémania-backed game release like they did.
Don't even bother finishing your thought, because I'm sick of seeing the misinformation strewn about like it's nothing.
What uninformed cretins think Iwata did >Wrote an algorithm that saved on cart space >This code was so heckin' wholesome and cool that it saved a frickton of space >Because of this, GF managed to include Kanto in GS >Iwata was immortalized as a gold statue in GF HQ for his miracles
What Iwata did >Wrote code that caused battle and area transitions to be quicker >The algorithm took up more space, as opposed to saving any. >Had zero impact on the inclusion of Kanto >Was unable to dispel the hearsay on account of being dead
Frick the plebbit tier homosexuals that deified him and frick DYKG for being the center point of executive worship.
Basically none of it. Nintendo honestly didn't give a shit about the games until there was online blowback following SV, and even then it seems like they didn't do much but b***h about it. You guys have to look at this from a business standpoint for a second. Pokemon is the most lucrative IP ever and has printed absurd amounts of money since its inception. They're probably more worried about fricking it up than anything, so hands off was probably the best way to play it.
>it's le hardware's fault!!
Has there ever been, in the history of gaming, a good game made on a device as powerful or less than the switch? Yes? Then it's not the switch's fault if [game] is shit or runs like shit you bumbling moron.
Gamefreak's.
They simply can't do a proper 3D game. SwSh and SV looks at least 5 years behind other games on the Switch. The funniest and saddest part is that LGPE is their most polished Switch game.
>implying pirates are walking into people's houses and slapping the credit card out their hands when they want to buy a pokémon game
1 pirated game = 1 pirated game. Unless you're forcing normalgays to pirate too, you're not costing them shit., (You) were never going to buy once you had decided you were too "adult"/poor/mature/cost-effective/whatever to justify paying whatever price for a pokémon game, yet still too invested in the kiddy brand to fully let go of the security blankey.
>fall off
swshit and scatvomit are both top 3 selling entries in the series
>Ah yes, let's compare a 90's gameboy niche game sales to a current era of mainstream young adult normies buying shit out of nostalgia
Also
>implying Sales = good
>90's gameboy niche game sales
>118 million gameboys sold
Did you account for my inflation fetish?
Fpbp OP btfo'd as much I despise nuPokemon games
All of them for not giving the series to a decent dev after ORAS.
i was under the impression Nintendo doesn't control that. Pokemon is owned 33% by Nintendo, 33% by Gamefreak, and 33% by Creatures.
>33% by Creatures
What do they even do? I've heard the name of this company everytime Pokemon's ownership is brought up, but is their role in the franchise?
They're the main force behind the TCG, as well as the franchise's Pokemon model work in general.
All the pokemon and trainers models plus animations that pokedrones claims takes too much times for gamefreak to even optimize the game..
A lot of the model stuff gamefreak attempts to take credit for and say is the reason they cant make good games
Seeing as how every Nintendo game EXCEPT pokemon has been an industry breaking success critically and financially (pokemon has only achieved the latter), I'd say zero. And snoys can keep seething about it while playing joggerman2
More like 100%, the only Switch games to do better than Pokemon is Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Smellda, and Trash.
Even the Mario platformers are getting mogged by Swsh and SV.
none, nintendo just collects the pay check, it's TPC's fault
>Blame the company that Nintendo controls a third of
well then they sure are doing a terrible job of resisting the Pokemon companys plans to shit out games every year
The pokemon company was literally made to be independent you moron. They didn't even want pokemon to be on the switch and was going to be just a mobile game for phones. They are that moronic.
No anon. They didn't. In fact, TPC are in no way involved in Game Freak and Nintendo's contract for games for Nintendo's systems, because aside from shitting out merch, a tv show and cards to support it, TPC have no input into the production of Game Freak's games beyond being told to fricking get ready to market them to the morons of the world.
Game Freak have staffers in TPC (not Masuda, people still listed as GF employees) who's job it is is to tell TPC how to present the creatures Game Freak creates for THEIR kiddy game series. TPC is a marketing department, created to let Game Freak and Nintendo concentrate on their stated purposes of making video games.
So you are saying it's all game freak's fault?
No, because they could only develop for what hardware Nintendo sold and Nintendo didn't care about making the most powerful handheld to get Game Freak up to speed regrading industry standard, because their biggest handheld IP was one aimed at moron kids supported by a tv show, merch and other associated crap, so they didn't NEED to waste money on the system to do that.
The issue is they being held back so long means when they try to play catch up, you stupid Black folk think they should be on bleeding edge already. Doesn't work like that, no c**t here could walk into any dev house and actually be on-trend enough to filter in and be good at vidya development.
Ok but why do PS2 games look better than SV.
or we can skip that question and ignore system restraints entirely
WHERE THE FRICK IS THE GAMEPLAY
They don't, but you're a disingenuous little shithead child, mad pokémon hasn't needed you since you were 13 so you need to say something to slight them.
Do they match industry bleeding edge? No. Do they look better than 20 year old games, absolutely so long as we're talking the original release and not remasters or remakes for the modern.
You never addressed my other point that I had in all caps. I don't even care for graphics that much, I'm just calling you out for extreme bullshit. You're too busy being a white knight moron. Which is funny because I was accused of that earlier when I was talking shit on pal world, even though I didn't say anything good about nintendo
Oh Jesus, the hardware is weak argument. Black person, we've seen far better games made with far weaker hardware, both in terms of features and graphics and stability. SV is a piece of hog shit and blaming the Switch for it simply masks GF's ineptitude.
it could also be creatures fault
Creatures have less input than Nintendo and had from the start where they fronted Tajiri money to finish, in return for having their name listed in the initial splash page with nintendo.
Don't they make the models for GF?
then why did gamefreak even bother using that as an excuse during the SwSh Dexit thing?
Because normalgays don't know about that so GF can get away with being lazy
they also make all the pokemon merch, the anime, manga, card game, etc. creatures absolutely could be at blame, but i also suspect that stereotypical japanese wageslave mentality could be preventing creatures and gamefreak from working out something more reasonable.
What they need to do is put their foot down and tell TPC and Ishihara to deal with it
I tried tell you gaijin, pocket monster game for handhehrd, i tell you we no make game for switch! Then switch big popurar, now we make big consore game, now no time to make, now you play a pile a shit!
>the mongo thinks companies are independent from their shareholders
ahahaha mongoloid.
>Makes money by doing nothing.
Why Nintendo even need to act? Also they thought switch was gonna be a failure and were betting on pokemon go and phones games to be the new money making. https://www.businessinsider.com/pokemon-ceo-tsunekazu-ishiharan-nintendo-switch-fail-2017-9
>taking the word of a CEO reported in a capitalist paper at face value in the year 1445 of Allah's revelation
>CEO likes money
Oh the horror!
Not the point. The point is that CEO's lie and have no qualms about lying if it gets them to have more money. But you probably know that already and just enjoy being a tool. May Allah help you find reason.
Lying about what exactly? Dude pokemon go was a massive success. the logic about abandoning handhelds for phones makes sense.
Zero. Blame the pokemon company
What "fall off"? Explain yourself and why you think that.
Because where I'm sitting, this thing hasn't changed one bit yet homosexual teenagers suddenly think it's somehow gonna die, because a game they are more interested in launched.
thread has nothing to do with palworld, a fall off as in it's very apparent the games have fallen below peoples standards. You can argue when it started but the problem has no doubt come to a head during the switch era. People are disillusioned with the games and recognize them to be just a way to usher in the next line of merchandise.
You can say that it's always been that way, but it doesn't change the fact that overall feelings about the games are more negative than they've ever been before, and it's more obvious than ever that they aren't getting the amount of time, polish, and fleshing out that they need.
That has ALWAYS been the case, you dumb c**t. The internet letting the minority make noise will mot change the fact moron 7 year old kids WILL eat it up and casual adults the same (cf RS being the highest selling games on GBA, as adults ignored the console, leaving millions of moron kids and casuals to champion the system)
>The internet letting the minority make noise will mot change the fact moron 7 year old kids WILL eat it up and casual adults the same
Of course people are buying and of course they always will. But are you saying that the games are just as unpolished, rushed, and cobbled together as they've always been? There's been zero change in quality in your opinion?
It took them 6 years to release RG anon. And at that, it was STILL basic as frick graphics ,despite 6 years' experience working with a game boy dev kit. They always lagged behind, just because they're lagging behind in 3D doesn't mean a frick, else it would gave died off 4 years ago as people saw what they were doing vs the rest the industry, not outsell a pokémania-backed game release like they did.
Pokemon is now the laughinstock of the gaming community. You can say "frick Pokemon" and be praised for it.
Oh, somewhere between 95 to 100 percent. They are still untouchable btw.
It's all GF fault
pretty sure nintendo properties arent getting the same scrutiny as pokemon
wasnt there a recent mario game? heard nothing bad about it
I don't think Ninty has much of a say in Pokemon game development at all. At least not as much of a say as they did during Gen 1 and 2.
Remember when Gamefreak used to ask Nintendo for help? Gold & Silver remember
Don't even bother finishing your thought, because I'm sick of seeing the misinformation strewn about like it's nothing.
What uninformed cretins think Iwata did
>Wrote an algorithm that saved on cart space
>This code was so heckin' wholesome and cool that it saved a frickton of space
>Because of this, GF managed to include Kanto in GS
>Iwata was immortalized as a gold statue in GF HQ for his miracles
What Iwata did
>Wrote code that caused battle and area transitions to be quicker
>The algorithm took up more space, as opposed to saving any.
>Had zero impact on the inclusion of Kanto
>Was unable to dispel the hearsay on account of being dead
Frick the plebbit tier homosexuals that deified him and frick DYKG for being the center point of executive worship.
Basically none of it. Nintendo honestly didn't give a shit about the games until there was online blowback following SV, and even then it seems like they didn't do much but b***h about it. You guys have to look at this from a business standpoint for a second. Pokemon is the most lucrative IP ever and has printed absurd amounts of money since its inception. They're probably more worried about fricking it up than anything, so hands off was probably the best way to play it.
they need better quality control of their development partners for sure
>it's le hardware's fault!!
Has there ever been, in the history of gaming, a good game made on a device as powerful or less than the switch? Yes? Then it's not the switch's fault if [game] is shit or runs like shit you bumbling moron.
They'll announce new gen next week and revenue will rise again
Gamefreak's.
They simply can't do a proper 3D game. SwSh and SV looks at least 5 years behind other games on the Switch. The funniest and saddest part is that LGPE is their most polished Switch game.
None. It's Shitfreak, GO and TPC fault.
pal is pokemon ripoff
yet nothing will be done about it.
>done nothing but copy paste the same 5 games onto outdated hardware for 30 years
they're only even in business because of japanese brand loyalty.
if Nintendo in house studios did a Pokemon game it'd wipe it's ass with the rest of the franchise.
Blame piracy. It‘s the reason their profit is less than they deserve.
1 stolen game = 1 sale loss
>implying pirates are walking into people's houses and slapping the credit card out their hands when they want to buy a pokémon game
1 pirated game = 1 pirated game. Unless you're forcing normalgays to pirate too, you're not costing them shit., (You) were never going to buy once you had decided you were too "adult"/poor/mature/cost-effective/whatever to justify paying whatever price for a pokémon game, yet still too invested in the kiddy brand to fully let go of the security blankey.
Nintendo can do nothing wrong and shills will always make excuses for them even though they own a 33% stake