How much will Persona 6 pander to the west? Will it have a black character and gay relationships?

How much will Persona 6 pander to the west? Will it have a black character and gay relationships?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Atlus JP doesn't give a shit about the west and never will

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. They're not like Nintendo or something where they have to censor every release so twitterers don't screech at them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So far that seems to be the case, we will see if it holds true, sega their boss is already pozzed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know, Persona 5 turned mainstream as frick, and with Joker in smash and how much crossover whoring the franchise has ben through recently, I'm scared that the games after 6 are going to suck ass, in an attempt to pander to normies.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The games have sucked ass since 4 though and you could even argue since 3

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Hell why not just say since 1. And also SMT sucks. And all JRPGs and videogames suck in general. Only the classic literatures have good stories because no one will argue with me on that.
          Look at me, I'm so much stronger than you for having higher standards. I'm basically God, and you are an insect for daring like something so far beneath me. Suck my toes, peasant.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >America
      >Europe
      >Australia
      It's true, their support for the west is absolute ($500 record player) shit, but they can't deny the amount of money that extends beyond Japan.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they care about western players, i'm sure they'll do some amount of pandering but i don't think it'll be game-ruining unless you're a /misc/ schizo who starts screaming as soon as someone who isnt white, asian or heterosexual appears on the screen.
      you'll probably get 1 black dude and maybe you can date 1 or 2 men but nothing will hold you back from just going down the friend route or not doing their social links at all.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but if/when P6 comes out it will be """localized""" for americans.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Probably this

      SMTV pissed off trannies and journos pretty hard

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Oh I forgot they latched onto him thinking he was trans. Did he have ingame dialogue that told them to frick off?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The game refers to him as he several times and one review actually removed points from the game because they didn't make him trans. Shills stopped aggressively posting about the game the moment this was revealed. I wonder why

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why in these pictures the troony is always drawn with balding and facial and body hair when those are all effects caused by testosterone?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. They're not like Nintendo or something where they have to censor every release so twitterers don't screech at them.

      It is genuinely unreal how head in the fricking sand you homosexuals are. To the point where I genuinely believe its trolling at this point. If you don't think Japan is being influenced by American translators and culture you are seriously fricking delusional. Its already happening in Manga and anime, which is even MORE deatched than video games.
      >Japan doesn't care about-
      Stop with this fricking meme. It made sense 10 years ago. Its outdated now. Especially as more American money starts to get involved.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hopefully this is true. Even with femMc it just go the other way not gay. Maybe molesting another shota

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I’m more worried about it trying to be “haha remember Persona?” now that the actual director of 3-5 is gone.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Where did he go.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Atlus Team 0

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          if the zero team isn't doing P6 it's going to be a very long wait.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. YES.

      You "Persona didn't exits before 3"-gays will FINALY know the PAIN.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Strikers was done without him and it was better than 5.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It literally was just 5. It recycled entire storybeats. Yusuke's arc in Strikers was the same fricking Yusuke arc in P5. The final boss was the same thing too. Sophie was just Aigis but boring.
        Are you insane?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, and P5 is a barely altered P4, doesn't matter.

          Anon has a good point: Strikers had no Hashino and delivered a better P5 than P5. The pacing was tighter, the character writing was stronger, and it was more effective in making its points. Most of its weaknesses both as a game and a story were carried over from P5.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >retreading arcs previously done = exactly the same
          Based moron. It gave some extra depth to Yusuke and Haru. Why is that bad? Sophie had more depth than Aigis too and wasn't in love with the MC. And all of it was done in a month instead of stretching it with boredom over a year.
          Frick off, moron.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Based moron. It gave some extra depth to Yusuke and Haru.
            Haru yes, Yusuke no. It gave him the exact same development as in Persona 5. I've played both several times, anon, I like them but Strikers barely even tried with it's plot.
            >Sophie had more depth than Aigis too
            Oh you're a troll. I'm not responding to you anymore.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It gave everyone who had their direct opposite dungeon some extra depth. Stop shitposting, moron. It was better than 5.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Sophie has more depth then Aigis
            Nah now I know for a fact you're shit post. That's not just wrong, it's objectively wrong. Like you clearly haven't played P3 wrong or you're trying to get a rise out of people wrong. Nice try though

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Not them, but they're both flaccid characters on purpose. One is just a Rei clone while the other is emulating Alexa. Neither is good, people just like Aigis because she wanted to frick Jesus and was part of a well choreographed ending.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                People liked Aigis because a robot gaining human emotion is a classic and well beloved story and Aigis has a very slow but natural growth from robot to human across The Journey and The Answer enough to leave a strong impression. The gradual shift from monotone voice to an emotional one was also well done.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but that's more about things people find gratifying than actual writing quality.

                Also most people who like Aigis are just talking about base P3.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I like both a lot but Sophie is slightly cuter

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Aigis' personality is just "robot" until she gets broken by Ryoji and then starts slightly sounding a normal person

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Isn’t the Royale director supposed be directing 6.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    penis

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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    but yes i do think their will be gay and black relationships possible in the same relationship

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >wah muh gay character
    Persona 2 in 1999 you could be gay
    Shut the frick up and take your meds don't like just don't fricking access that content you moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >medposting
      My won't work unless you take yours.
      So follow your own advice autistic frick.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 4 had a gay and a trans character, stop whining about "muh pandering to the west".

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kanji isn't gay.
      Naoto isn't trans.
      You will never pass.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        their character arcs were to stop being gay and trans and hook up with each other tho lol

        Kanji is homophobic in a literal sense and Naoto is a tomboy. You are a moron.

        Stop forcing your headcannon on everything and go back to tumblr, troony

        Why do morons keep falling for this bait? Are newbies this moronic?

        Yusuke is gay. Cope.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      their character arcs were to stop being gay and trans and hook up with each other tho lol

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Kanji is homophobic in a literal sense and Naoto is a tomboy. You are a moron.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Stop forcing your headcannon on everything and go back to tumblr, troony

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why do morons keep falling for this bait? Are newbies this moronic?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Some people just really want something to get upset about.
        And by "some people" I mean most of the bored modern world.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just enjoyed SMT series l.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's on purpose. Logo with to much harmony look boring

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a fan logo that has existed for years. How new are you exactly?

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the one thing we can agree is on is now that persona is a multiplat series 6 is confirmed to be multiplat on launch.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >6 is confirmed to be multiplat on launch.
      Who knows

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I forgot it's Atlus we're talking about. They could just be going for goodwill and still crawl back to Playstation.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You wish, it will be on kfc console exclusively for at least 5 years

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully they add a trap

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off homosexual

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      DUDE AYY LMAO, LMAO

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Tfw ur trap GF is made out of minions.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking ruined Catherine. Also pink hair is the worst hair color ever.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Also pink hair is the worst hair color ever.
        Objectively wrong.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          She'd look better with any other colour hair, this is an objectively true statement.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Shit taste.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hey, if its done well, then I don't really mind.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bring back Trauma Center you fricking cowards

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it'll 200% have a trans character

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    my main problem is p5 had too many fricking writers and I feel like they KNOW they fricked up due to how schizophrenic some of the writing is. but at the same time since it got so much positive attention from normies, idk if they'll just now start blending even more "CURRENT ANIME TROPES SOCIETY BAD" stuff into it without tasting the soup.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      P5 was a development clusterfrick all around. You can see remnants of earlier builds in the final game (Kamoshida and Futaba have dungeons designed around non-warp shortcuts back to the start while every other dungeon relies on safe room warps, Shido's cruise ship has gimmicks originally shown in trailers for Kamoshida, Kamoshida's castle has rooms with no purpose or map markings that make no sense in the final game), the player's options are strangely limited in Vanilla, most "improvements" to the formula just remove nuance from gameplay, guns are just terribly implemented in general, level design is all over the place, there's a shitload of anime cutscene inconsistencies explained by low budget dialogue scenes before/after them, the game overexplains a lot of plot points in clear late-dev rewrites, it's fricked to the core.

      The idea behind it was strong and the presentation was flashy, so it sold well anyway.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >P5 was a development clusterfrick all around.
        Absolutely.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Id love to play the real P5

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            There's not a single videogame ever made that's "the real" version of itself, every single one has concessions made and things altered. Most of the time, for the better.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You know what I mean, the "original" vision.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I want a leak of all the original plans for the game, along with any unused assets, and artwork that wasn't included in the artbook. I know I'll never get the game, but I at least want the information.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I mean we got the REAL Dead Island 2 leaked and we all frickin know that version will not be the final

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It was in development for ~7 years despite being planned for a four year dev cycle. It being a clusterfuvk is a given.

        It's going to be Persona 5 again. Higher-ups won't allow them to do anything new with it. It'll be just as soulless and generic as Soul Hackers 2, but with a shinier paint job. They won't do anything to step on anyone's toes, even yours. No unique characters, no dark themes, no experimental mechanics and systems. Nothing.
        Re Fantasy is the only thing left I have any hope for coming from Atlus.

        >Hackers 2
        I dislike the party character designs, but nothing about the game itself has suggested its going to be any more or less safe than 1 was.

        >Re: Fantasy
        Why would you have faith in the guy who caused this stagnation?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Why would you have faith in the guy who caused this stagnation?
          Because I know what he's capable of. Right now he has his own studio at Atlus, and can seemingly do whatever he wants. I feel like there's a chance that Re Fantasy might be another Persona 3 or Catherine. It may not, but I have more hope for it than the massive IP that all the suits up top are probably micromanaging the hell out of with a microscope.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >ryuji goes from "Ann" is totally kamoshida's servant to "I KNOW ANN FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL SHE WOULDNT DO THIS" so fricking fast
        holy shit if people actually read the text messages, you'd see how moronic some of the game's plot is

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The game banks on flooding the player with so much text that they won't notice smaller details.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >normalgays seething bc there were no homosexual dating options while being able to frick your teacher and doctor

      I hope it stays this way and Fatlus doesn't become globohomo

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        fatlus is owned by sega, and sega is 100% globohomo

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Not much. the main character will be female and she can be a dyke.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >only male protagonist
    >no gay romance
    >no trannies
    >tons of cute waifus
    >kino music/style
    persona 5 was the peak of the series. it's all downhill from here.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 6 is either going to be even safer than P5 or try something radically different.

    Knowing Atlus, it's going to be a third fricking game built on P3's skeleton.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I want a gay romance since Kanji.
    Can't wait for it.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gay character with romance to mitigate crappy honophobic jokes of hashino did since ps2

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's going to be Persona 5 again. Higher-ups won't allow them to do anything new with it. It'll be just as soulless and generic as Soul Hackers 2, but with a shinier paint job. They won't do anything to step on anyone's toes, even yours. No unique characters, no dark themes, no experimental mechanics and systems. Nothing.
    Re Fantasy is the only thing left I have any hope for coming from Atlus.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Gay relationships
    They made me buy a shitty remake to frick Akihiko and refused to let me frick Kanji and Yusuke. There is no reason to bar me from fricking whoever I want.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Based gay anon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's more that all the female options in these games are terrible.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *get fricked by Akihiko
      learn the difference

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Akihiko is a bottom, don't you disrespect Shinji by implying otherwise.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For real though where does this love for Strikers come from? It was decent for a musou but it repeated every single thing from 5 but worse. Except for Zenkichi it brought nothing new or interesting to the table yet it gets defenders. Is it really only the people who never played P5 who love it so much?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >love
      "It executed P5's writing better than P5" is not love. The bar was really fricking low.

      You're arguing from the perspective of how it works as something building upon P5 when the argument is that it achieves the same goals in a more efficient and less annoying way.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >"It executed P5's writing better than P5" is not love
        You're right, it's objectively wrong. All Strikers did was give every antagonist a half-assed sob story. That's fine in Strikers where you need to coddle up some kind of moral teetering for shallow depth, but in P5 it was never about the antagonists. The focus was on the victims, hence why all the development was placed upon the people directly involved with the antagonists instead. That was way less generic than Strikers alone.
        >when the argument is that it achieves the same goals in a more efficient and less annoying way.
        And what is annoying about the way P5 does it? Be specific, what exactly does Strikers do better?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Pacing, internal consistency, character voice, exposition and group conversational synergy.

          Strikers does a better job characterizing the Phantom Thieves, explaining ideas to the audience, integrating characters in a balanced way beyond the "MY TURN TO SAY A LINE" shit in both games, and making their interactions fun. It doesn't get bogged down nearly as much in trying to work around its own plot contrivance and stretch things out to cover a pre-planned game length. It wastes far less time on reiterating ideas to the player. It has far fewer glaringly weak rewrites and is a much more consistent quality through its duration.

          The original P5's party just starts to crumble once Makoto joins and becomes the designated narrative advancer alongside Futaba. Striker's misses the absolute heights in characterization of P5's cast, but stays far away from its lows. This makes for a better experience because the original split was like 10% highs, 50% lows, 40% in between.

          If you're unable to grasp why the ensemble cast being more consistently enjoyable matters for a power of friendship game, I don't know what to tell you.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yusuke is a bit exaggerated in Strikers, but I appreciated that when he spoke up it usually made sense for him to do so. In P5 he starts becoming a sounding board for the others when they need to say "Yes, [thing]" to keep a conversation going.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The characters do get a bit more equal spread in terms of presence in Strikers but I don't think that alone can make the game better than P5. The pacing is a given, P5's pacing is bogged down by the social link aspect and refusal to stop handholding the player but it was also very internally consistent and exposition came naturally, but it usually followed after scenes where a less moronic player could figure out what's going on by themselves so it would be pretty annoying if some characters started regurgitating what you already know so blatantly.

            Unfortunately I don't think either game has good enough group dynamics to carry the game on it's own. From the shallow musou combat, poor retread story beats and the Aigis 2.0 but worse, I can say I had fun but I didn't think Strikers was better than it's original counterpart. I don't think we'll come to an agreement.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >P5's pacing is bogged down by the social link aspect and refusal to stop handholding the player
              It's poorly paced even if you take the cutscenes in a vacuum. It's horrible at explaining ideas.

              Kamoshida is one of P5's highlights while Alice was nothing special, but the Alice scenario somehow managed to explain Ann's character much more effectively. It had far more faith in the player and conveyed ideas like "Ann is staunchly anti-bully and wants to help people" much more organically than "muh Shiho..." The game as a whole handles the same ideas in a more effective fashion in a fraction of the time.

              >I don't think either game has good enough group dynamics to carry the game on it's own
              P5's story is like a 3 and Strikers is a 4. Both are bad, but Strikers was both less frustrating and more compact. I think saying Strikers was a better writing effort that gives some hope for a new game's narrative is reasonable. Most of what holds Strikers down is its status as a retread rather than its own thing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It had far more faith in the player and conveyed ideas like "Ann is staunchly anti-bully and wants to help people" much more organically
                Because before she wasn't staunchly anti-bully, she was focused on herself and Shiho, a small circle of people and their well being and after joining the phantom thieves, that's when she developed those habits.

                I understand you a bit better now. You have misconceptions.
                >P5's story is like a 3 and Strikers is a 4.
                Good fricking lord no, let's stop this conversation here, I cannot bear to hear you suck off Strikers for doing exactly what P5's plot did but far worse and less natural development toward the climax.
                Strikers is nothing but an ineffective simulacrum of P5.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I understand you a bit better now. You have misconceptions.
                Why are you so pretentious? Get out of your ass and tone it down a bit.

                >I cannot bear to hear you suck off Strikers
                I'm not. Both are bad stories with ineffective scripts. It's no Cold Steel, but still not even approaching good. All I said was that the spinoff was better at avoiding some of the original's gaping flaws.

                >less natural development toward the climax.
                What natural development? P5's ending is terrible. It's constant exposition vomit alongside statements of character arc conclusions to avoid addressing how the game failed to actually show those arcs taking place. Loud, repetitive theme screaming that tries to wiggle around hypocrisy because a dozen people rewrote the script five times. Bombastic spectacle to cover up the complete lack of narrative payoff.

                At least Royal had Maruki. Frick. Yaldaboath was awful.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yaldabaoth was great, the entire game has themes about mob psychology ("the ignorant masses") which tie in strongly with the foreshadowing all throughout the game, how bad things happen because it's easier to fall in with the herd. This is blatant and I doubt you missed it, but tying the velvet room in with the main plot again was refreshing. P5 was less focused on individual character arcs and more about how groups of people function, with outcasts able to see the whole more clearly. I thought it was very well done.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The game reads fine if you abstract it down to a couple points, but it's a fricking mess in execution. It's trying to walk a tight rope between "Institutional rot bad" and "Populism bad," but it has so many fricking writers with their own opinions that it becomes a mess. It wants to say revolt is necessary but also institutions should be changed from the inside by good actors but also the system corrupts but also you SHOULD overthrow populist systems but also the will of the people is what gives you the power to do so but also we are all slaves to collective will but also it's the 1% using us but also-

                Royal at least hit something solid: we need social infrastructure, but it needs to be loose to allow for choice/"imperfection." This captures all these seemingly conflicting ideas in a thematic resolution. Yaldaboath is only really one aspect of the unfocused sprawling mess of P5 themes and the game just starts dumping so much word vomit at you because it didn't properly integrate this focus through the while game. The dialogue and exposition of OG P5's finale is fricking atrocious. It's broadly correct and foreshadowed, but not actually a proper cathartic ending to the journey.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It wants to say revolt is necessary but also institutions should be changed from the inside by good actors
                No, the game is just addressing that not everyone within a corrupt system is a bad person, hence Sae Nijima.
                It never claims rebellion or change from the inside are better than the other, the focus was never to parade one of these as heroes, but the fact Sae and the PTs even team up at all should have told you that.
                > also the will of the people is what gives you the power to do so but also we are all slaves to collective will but also it's the 1% using us but also-
                It's not that difficult to understand, anon, you don't need to exaggerate this shit and act ignorant. Influencers exist in reality, the elite manipulate public opinion ALL THE TIME and they are not alone (hence all the scenes with Shido and his groupies), it's never just ONE evil overlord tyrant, it's always a collective of like-minded individuals who allow this shit to happen.

                Whether it's the victims validating the antagonists actions by remaining meek and passive (Kamoshida), thugs (Kaneshiro) or a group of like-minded people (Shido) it's always multiple people who incite change. That ties in with the collective unconsciousness.
                >Yaldaboath is only really one aspect of the unfocused sprawling mess of P5 themes and the game
                They were very tightly focused and hit angles like a proper essay should: by addressing opposing views and making arguments. None of this youtube eceleb homosexualry where they repeatedly state their opinion and ignore the opposition. P5 smartly organized it's themes and plot to go from small and personal issues to grand ones, and then world issues and concepts.

                A problem with P5 is that it's scope is so large and the game is already so bloated it had no time (or no talent) to deal with characters as much more than pawns or pieces to the big picture. It's zoomed out too much, so the details of single actors, even important ones, within are muddled.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I can't believe you directly acknowledge what I'm saying -- that the game goes so broad that its points become muddled due to a lack of unifying thrust, that it reads like a fricking essay at points, that it suffered under its own weight -- just to say I'm somehow missing the point or intentionally ignoring what the game is doing.

                Again, broad strokes? Serviceable. Actual execution? Really bad. The game comes at multiple ideas from multiple directions but ends off with a singular, simplified idea that doesn't grasp the totality of what it wanted to say. That's why Maruki was added to Royal: he gives the game a "I get it, but look at the big picture" finale that contextualizes the entirety. That's not some weird coincidence. P5 was in dev hell for years. They had to hire several new writers just to stop it from collapsing under its poor foundation and absurd scope. It's functional in the same way Indivisible is, where the outline makes sense but it has tons of little issues at each step.

                Like for frick's sake, come on. You'd have to actually be stupid to not see that P5 has a lot of narrative issues and the grail is an exposition heavy, clunky, lackluster ending propped up on spectacle.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >just to say I'm somehow missing the point or intentionally ignoring what the game is doing.
                The origin of the argument is that you're saying Strikers is better than P5. I hold that ground, and if agreeing with you gets my point across then that's good, it means you'll slowly come to understand what I'm trying to say. Sorry if this is confusing for you, but my intention isn't to disagree and call you a homosexual. My intention is to tell you Strikers is an unimaginative, boring retread of all the same shit that happened in P5 but done much worse.
                >Actual execution? Really bad.
                I disagree. The execution is great, the characters are simplified but that's fine. Some characterization was sacrificed for the broader message and themes of the game. I don't think that's a mark of loss of quality, I think that's just the approach the game would take in the hopes it would appeal to people not completely stuck in concrete, mechanical ideas of what a good story is - like the people who mistake character development and dynamic characters as the same thing.

                >You'd have to actually be stupid to not see that P5 has a lot of narrative issues and the grail is an exposition heavy, clunky, lackluster ending propped up on spectacle.
                I can see how they'd do it better. That doesn't make something bad since I don't view the world in black or white. I'm not some juvenile moron who finds a singular point of contention to dismiss the entire thing based on bias. I recognize P5 has it's faults, that doesn't make it worse than Strikers because Strikers decided to focus more on characters (without meaningfully adding to any of them that hasn't been done before) than the overarching narrative. Yaldabaoth's presence is felt all throughout the game, from the velvet room, it's representation in the masses, and even Kamoshida's boss battle.

                I think it's a great ending and Maruki personalizes the exact same conclusion further.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                > Yaldabaoth was great, the entire game has themes about mob psychology
                I don’t care about “muh themes”. Yaldabaoth is literally just the same final boss as in persona 4 but without the “IT WAS THEM ALLLLLL ALONG” factor that 4 at least had going for it. The 5 final boss literally just exists to be a final boss, they have no conflict or history with any of the characters or any sort of interesting dynamic. It’s literally just a big boss That exists to bluntly shout the themes of the game so the cast can shout back “no you’re wrong!!!” And btfo it.
                Royale without a doubt saved the ending of the game.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I don’t care about “muh themes”
                Yeah I know, it shows. Unfortunately for you, it's a big focus of the game so if you don't care for the themes, it's a big surprise you even managed to care about Maruki as he was Yaldabaoth but on a personal, less cartoonishly exaggerated level*.

                *The exaggeration was on purpose, Yaldabaoth isn't a person, it's an exaggeration of the wishes of the mob. No shit it's going to act lordly and holier than thou, that's literally what it is.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >they have no conflict or history with any of the characters or any sort of interesting dynamic.
                Bro he's the representation of all of society and it's wishes to abandon freedom for security. They're fighting humanity's will to throw away it's freedom. Are you literally underage or just too moronic to get something blatantly stated throughout the game?
                You're playing a band of outcasts fighting against society, the final boss is that society. You can't say there's no history or conflict with Yaldabaoth, that is factually wrong on a sub-atomic level. This is catastrophically moronic. You are a fricking moron in every one of your quarks.
                Yaldabaoth is the literal crystallization of all of the phantom thieves problems.
                Please tell me you're trolling.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Strikers does everything 5 does but better, on shorter time and with better real time gameplay. The SoL moments are numerous and the crew actually feel alive rather than just waiting for Makoto/Morgana to say something. It's not even love for the game, strikers is simply better than 5.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Strikers does everything 5 does but better,
            Wrong.
            >on shorter time
            By using pre-established characters and plot.
            >and with better real time gameplay.
            It's bog standard musou gameplay, it's not better than turn based and especially not better than P5's turn based combat.

            They are on a road trip, not trying to change society so no shit there's going to be more SoL moments. I'd question it if they spent much more time than they already have on just wanking around in P5, that would be utterly disregarding the situation they're in. You seem to have thrown out all context because you like it better when the group is just having fun, which is fine, but it doesn't make the game better just because there are no stakes.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Wrong
              Yes it does.
              >By using pre-established characters and plot.
              So? A month of jam packed content is more than enough compared to a year of padding where nothing happens.
              >It's bog standard musou gameplay
              This meme argument has been btfo last year when it came out. You can do a bunch of different things and you won't be able to just mash one button to win. The turn based fights in P5 got boring by the time you finish kamoshida's dungeon, since all you do is just press one button to find a weakness. The turn based combat is carried only by the style of P5.
              >They are on a road trip, not trying to change society so no shit there's going to be more SoL moments
              So you concede that its SoL moments are better than P5's, despite taking 1/3 of the time. Thanks.
              And no, the "situation" isn't an argument considering you can go for s.links at any point before the final dungeon.
              >fine, but it doesn't make the game better
              Yes it does. It's why 4 is better than 5, and the former's "stakes" were nonexistent.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You can do a bunch of different things and you won't be able to just mash one button to win.
                You don't mash one button to win in musou. You mash square square triangle. Later musou entries allow you to use preset skills which Strikers does the same thing with persona lists.
                It's the same fricking thing. I know my musou. I know Strikers.
                >The turn based fights in P5 got boring by the time you finish kamoshida's dungeon
                It had far more variety than Strikers. In P5 you're fed plenty more mechanics long after Kamoshida's dungeon so right out of the gate I know you're a bullshit lying homosexual not worth my time.
                >since all you do is just press one button to find a weakness.
                Yeah because you don't target weaknesses at all in Strikers, right you disingenuous c**t?
                >So you concede that its SoL moments are better than P5's, despite taking 1/3 of the time.
                That's right, so what? P5 wasn't focused on it's SoL parts. It had a much better over-arching plot throughout it all. Striker's story was weak as hell.

                You just threw a bunch of lies at a person who knows better hoping someone, somewhere will agree with you. This is pointless.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It's the same fricking thing
                Not with that + personas it isn't.
                >It had far more variety than Strikers.
                What variety? You literally just find the demon's weakness and that's it. Everything else is just visual fluff which persona 5 excelled at. After Kamoshida's dungeon I was already tired of dungeons and worked to do them as fast as possible. Your attempts to overrate dull turn based gameplay is pathetic and ironic considering people only play persona for the """visual novel elements""".
                >Yeah because you don't target weaknesses at all in Strikers, right you disingenuous c**t?
                Simply doing it in real time > going through DVD menus for a canned animation that you don't really control, moron.
                >That's right, so what?
                So it's better than 5. QEfrickingD, moron. If people wanted to play a game similar to persona with no SoL and chad simulator elements, they'd fricking play megaten games (which they don't, as of no surprise to anyone). P5 post-kamoshida was dull and only picked up again at the very end, while Strikers, despite it being retreads, was still better.
                Nothing I said was a lie, you're just coping because 5 was worse than strikers and the only parts of that game that are rated are Kamoshida's and Maruki's dungeons. And I don't need someone agreeing with me, there were a bunch up there ITT anyway.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >What variety? You literally just find the demon's weakness and that's it
                You can do the same fricking thing in Strikers you dumb c**t, only now you never actually have to get hit and can dodge everything. Have you even played Strikers?
                >Simply doing it in real time >
                I'm not replying to you anymore. You're worthless.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >only parts of that game that are rated are Kamoshida's and Maruki's dungeons
                Like you'd know, it's pretty obvious you've never actually played Persona 5 and you're a coping nintendie. Don't worry, you'll get the game eventually.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    At what point did you decide that inventing shit to get mad about was necessary?

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They can't persona sales in China are bigger than the West one's and Atlus can't afford lose the Chink money like disney did with Lightyear

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    100%. they already censored shit, and localizers are in their ears. Big Japanese companies are realizing that the western audience are more profitable than their own people, and will change up design catering towards them, while shovel-ware VN shit will continue to grow and be specific created for the Japanese audience until that also gets more popular and the cycle repeats until pozzed trash is stopped

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There is a difference putting fully Gay character would be cause the ban of the game in China and the China Sales are bigger than the West ones. So for them is more easy don't putting a major gay character than risk to lose a Big Market like Chink market.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >There is a difference putting fully Gay character would be cause the ban of the game in China and the China Sales are bigger than the West ones.

        they will just change translations for the Chinese releases or edit shit out, it's not like they haven't been doing that for movies.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >two guys kissing
          >"bro, that's my lip you're biting. chill out, that hurts"

          >two guys cuddling
          >"bro, it's so cold outside. keep me warm until my hot sexy girlfriend arrives"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          a fully gay major character means fully gay shit like kisses that can be re-translated or cut, is more easy and cheaper for them making a game with some low pro-gay references in minor character to appeal the west that could be easily cut to appeal China.
          Due China laws banning homosexuality in media AAA Japanese Devs can't compromise to do a full gay game only easily removed references because China already proved with Lightyear that they would ban any gay shit

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >a fully gay major character means fully gay shit like kisses that can be re-translated or cut, is more easy and cheaper for them making a game with some low pro-gay references in minor character to appeal the west that could be easily cut to appeal China.
            Due China laws banning homosexuality in media AAA Japanese Devs can't compromise to do a full gay game only easily removed references because China already proved with Lightyear that they would ban any gay shit
            > is more easy and cheaper for them making a game with some low pro-gay references in minor character to appeal the west that could be easily cut to appeal China.

            That's exactly what i think they're going to do, they're going to make another kanji like character where instead of having feminine traits, he's going to be an actual homosexual that can easily be translated to something different in the China which is still pozzed shit

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That only would work with a minor character of minor reference a fully gay Social Link or gay MC can't be just re-translated would mean cut big chunks of the game which is expensive so is more cheap just doing gay references to appeal the west in way that is easy to the devs cutting it down to sell the game in China like conversation between two NPC minor character, but never a full gay plot like Blue Reflection.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    One of the romance options is a trap but it's your brother in law or some shit I have no idea why sister incest is so prevalent but the japs love it also it will have a jap wanting to do a mass killing but he won't because persona don't do that please.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We've had gay relationships since p2
    We've had Black folk since p fricking 1

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    P6 will have to tone it down now that it's considered western mainstream. You saw how twitter and other social media giants wet themselves over the Steam/Switch announcements. If the series is to have continued success in the west, it needs to avoid those traps. And by traps, I mean any soft mention of underage romance with an adult, or harmless homophobic comedy that we saw in P3 and P4.

    Even a simple: "Dude, no way am I kissing another guy" is an unacceptable line with certain groups. They will need to play it safe to ensure no one finds something that can be sent viral to takedown the series(that also means no humorous crossdressing for lulz)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >in b4 P6 comes out and its horny as frick
      the meltdowns would be glorious there would be petitions to change the game from the entire western media
      and then atlus would listen to them and delay the game and the dream is now a nightmare

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently the main director of Persona 3-5 is homophobic and dumb, so there's not much hope of gay relationships. I hope that changes though

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you hope that? Do you take glee in ruining the toys of other people? Cant you accept this is not for you and go elsewhere?
      Go create your own gay game.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Boys can be cute, gay

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Thats fine I just want you to understand what you are ACTUALLY doing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Do you take glee in ruining the toys of other people?
        If they're racist, homophobic, conservative incels who are one bad day away from shooting up a school, yes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Cmon man at least try. I feel bad giving you a (you) but I think deleting the arrow so it doesnt show is even gaygier so here you go

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >who are one bad day away from shooting up a school
          So you do want them to shoot up schols? Fricking up with their toys could be that bad day

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >So you do want them to shoot up schols?
            You seem to want us to 41% so it's only fair, right?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >You seem to want us to 41%

              Yes

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Frick with my toys and I'll shoot up a school!
            Holy shit XD, go ahead homosexual lmao.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    who invited the gays

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Your dad I just sucked his dick

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        at least you don't deny it

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just want a simultaneous English and Jap release

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I want the main character to be a women so I can turn all the ladies gay for my pussy.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's incredible how the Cold War between West and China affects the develop of game plots too at least Japanese devs can't go full gay thanks to this

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    karma shall be sweet, but not in my lifetime

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 5 already had feminist shit so it's definitely going to get pozzed.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It already had both of those before.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For a game like Persona 5 that's aimed at teenagers, you grown ass adults certainly love to act proudly ignorant of it's messages. You think it makes you look good to dismiss things?

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >and gay relationships?
    So did P2 and it was kino. You can always tell a secondary because they care about pushing their agenda and not the games at all.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >newbies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      People here have only played 3-5. They'll never know what a based character Jun is.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's already a BMWF couple in strikers

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I was just answering OP's question

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if even one party member isn't a busty 12 year old, I will personally post "p6 was pozzed" threads for at least four months.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Guys stop talking about the depth of the game, it's plot, symbolism and reflection of real life issues and go back to being horny about girls.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The japs want the gay relationships too

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >B-but /p-pol/ told me it was zog and world economic forum that want to make everyone a gay and a t-troony!

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If they pander to the West then I won't buy the game. That simple. I'm not buying Xenoblacked 3.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Leak
    > Persona 6 will take place in singapore.
    > You're a japanese student leaving for another country due to parent's job
    > Parents are workaholics so you still dont see them as much as previous games
    > you have a filipino maid as your substitute parent much like dojima and sojiro
    > bonded with maid due similar circumstances
    > Diverse cast of indians, chinese and malay. There's also a foreign white dude.
    > color palette is green due to the country's identity as a green city.

    Come back to my post sometime next year.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    homosexuals are common in Japanese media and its ok if they're hot.

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Atlus JP
    0
    >Atlus West
    maybe they will censor again

    ?t=41

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I am a heterosexual male and I want P6 to have a heterosexual, female protagonist only. FeMC was kino in P3 and I want to see it done properly.

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