How the frick did we go from Legends: Arceus to Scarlet and Violet?
I had such hope for this franchise for such a small period of time.
How the frick did we go from Legends: Arceus to Scarlet and Violet?
How the frick did we go from Legends: Arceus to Scarlet and Violet?
I had such hope for this franchise for such a small period of time.
both are bad games
But the answer is different teams worked on each game
Nah, Legends was actually pretty good.
No it wasn't, you moron. They had gyrados sitting in a little pond. Completely ruined any sense of scale or immersion.
I forget autistics such as yourself get upset over such inconsequential things like this and base your entire opinion of a game of it.
Small details add up, but slop eaters like you have lost the ability to notice anything but the act of consumption itself
>small details add up
doesn't really matter if they are so trivial and insignificant and don't negatively impact the game such as gyrados being in a small lake you autistic frick wit.
fpbp, one of the worst fricking franchises on the planet.
Fippy bippy.
>The game where you run around an empty world and throw pokeballs at 3 different types (shy, indifferent, aggressive) of Pokémon catching the same ones multiple times is actually good guys
Pokémon fans deserve slop.
Lie harder, loser.
why do people defend pokemon slop?
Point to the lie.
>The game where you run around an empty world and throw pokeballs at 3 different types (shy, indifferent, aggressive) of Pokémon catching the same ones multiple times is actually good guys
Yes, best game in the franchise in decades.
Does that mean the game is actually good? No, just that Pokemon has sucked so hard for a long time that even an empty walking and catching simulator feels "fun" and more of a game than the rest.
>best game in the franchise in decades
in a decade
Black and White 2 released in 2012
nah it was all over after gen 3
Akari feetsex
You got it Footchad
Its not everyday you see bare feet in Pokémon unless you get lucky with Maylene and Bea
Did they ever made the mod to walk barefoot outside your house?
It's on loverslab
The only good thing about Pokemon is pedophilia.
If nothing else, GF manages to fricking HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK on trainer designs every generation. idk who they have doing character designs but they are not being paid enough
>GF manages to fricking HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK on trainer designs every generation
Not for the latest one, that shit was fugly. You know its bad when pokemon porn for SV is way less than for the last couple of gens
*pokephilia
how the frick is a post like this still up
do your jobs moderators
If you think that's bad check out Ganker right now
t. dickless /misc/tard
>>>/vp/
Different teams, Legends was the younger ones who come in with ambition,
SV is Ohmori's boomer team that's less tech savvy and knows that in the end it will sell and that's what matters.
>SV is Ohmori's
I thought ohmori got fired
Different teams. You can tell PLA is the way they want to go though considering SV having some of its mechanics already compared to SWSH. I wouldn't be surprised if gen 10 is far more like PLA but in an open world like SV.
Oh my Arceus I want to start a whole new generation with her!
Posting pokemas is cheating
>That expression
>What zero dick does to a woman
Akari does not have pubes
>Japanese woman
>From ancient era, no less
>Not having a full bush
Unlikely.
>ancient era
its like 120 years before the mainline games bro
akari is LITERALLY three
Legends Arceus is probably the most fun I've had playing pokemon since Silver
I really hope they make another Legends game instead of immediately abandoning the formula. Just make battling a little more prominent and it'll be great.
Be cool if it was set somewhere other than ancient Japan.
Not that I didn't like the setting but it feels like I've been seeing a lot of ancient Japan recently.
What other settings could work tho?
Pioneer in uncharted lands during age of exploration?
Wild west in unova
Colosseum
Would be glorious to see Unova with a focus around the Relic ruins
Legends didn't go back far enough
The ruins were already ruins. I don't mind thr 1860s setting but missed opportunity to go back to ancient times
Unova could go ham with the back story that's established in the BW/BW2 about the original dragon.
Could start at the end of a mediveal-esque period and the start of an industrial revolution too.
Sex with Dawn, that is all.
SV was the much better game, but Legends had a lot of great things that should have been in SV.
>Using pokeballs outside of combat
>Better human controls (such as dodging)
>Shiny jingle (I'd trade this for sandwich slaving in an instant)
Overall SV did mounted controls much better, but it would be nice to get the updrift back for gliding.
You can tell that Legends was mostly made by new blood at gamefreak, while SV was made by the old guard.
A lot of issues at gamefreak can be put down to the old guard and their refusal to bend or properly change.
The only real fault I can give legends is the battle system, and I can't really fault the devs themselves for trying something new, it's just that the incompatibility with comp battling really cut off the games legs with the fanbase.
But legends had a SHIT ton of QoL that I have been hoping for in mainline for ages. Nearly nothing is dependant on the player playing with other people, all pokemon obtainable in the game, trade evos booted, just use the item on the pokemon, mythicals only needs a save from another game to get (Making them limited has lost all fricking novelty), IVs and EVs compressed into a single, transparent system, the writing isn't TOTAL vomit, battles are dramatically faster than mainline, entering and leaving battles are dramatically more seamless, capture pokemon out of battle, EVERYTHING is smoother and more seamless.
Between Arceus and the horrendous receiption SV got, I really hope Gamefreak is reconsidering how fricking set in their ways they are.
>Between Arceus and the horrendous receiption SV got, I really hope Gamefreak is reconsidering how fricking set in their ways they are.
Why should they change anything, Pokemon has become a franchise people buy out of obligation even if they know it sucks, the IP is too big not to succeed
No IP is too big to fail, look at Sonic. The sad reality though is that most people who buy these games actually enjoy them.
>No IP is too big to fail
Objectively wrong, and Sonic isn't the best of examples.
the problem with pokemon is that the games can fail, they are the least profitable part of the entire franchise iirc. Everything else just prints money they just use the games to introduce new designs to sell merch of and unless the designs are somehow the most unmarketable shit in the universe for a gen then pokemon will continue to print money.
>No IP is too big to fail, look at Sonic.
Still going strong and just had two successful live action movies released.
Despite everything. And there's still kids getting into the IP without mega drive nostalgia.
If anything, Sonic is an example of a franchise that's too big to fail. Maybe not big in terms of revenue, but still big enough to survive Sega's efforts.
I bet you sonic makes more now than it ever did in its history, simply from vidya being popular and available to so many people now
Sonic has been bad for 20 years and it still got 2 major films.
Being able to run around and observe the battle was awesome. I can't believe they went back on that
And that you could start a battle then gain tactical position behind the wild mon, end the battle and back shot it
>I really hope Gamefreak is reconsidering how fricking set in their ways they are.
GameFreak is probably a bigger believer of "You'll buy it anyway." than the shitposters on this site.
Comp Battling homosexualism is a cancer for Pokemon.
I'm so tired of the same system. At least Arceus tried something different.
The franchise can't go forward as long it follows a 30+ year old battle system mindset.
It is a game that requires you to find running around and just catching monsters to be entertaining. Extremely chill outside the final battle with Volo.
There are people that enjoy that. But if you are the type to want more action, it can be boring.
She’s 15
A bit old for marriage in that time period, but acceptable
Out of Ten!
Old enough to work for a living, and therefore marry and have children.
where are her breasts?
>It's owari da
So? My gf had her kid at 15.
From one garbage game to another. What's odd about it?
>been playing Arceus for a bit over a week
>first Pokemon game since USUM because everything since then has looked horrid and uninteresting
>enjoying it a lot
>finally get to Volo, had already gotten spoiled about his fight
>but not about him being responsible of the space-time rift and everything that happened in the game
>mfw his music
>mfw Giratina
>mfw STRIKE HER DOWN
>mfw the music switch when it refuses to go down and turns into its Origin Forme
I hadn't been hyped for a Pokemon fight in such a long time.
I mean, it's kind of obvious isn't it? The second I saw him I was like "yep, that Cynthia clone is the final boss." The only surprising part was that the fight was against 8 Pokemon instead of 6.
If you like stuff like that, I'd suggest playing Sword&Shield. That's the first time the Elite 4 side of things has actually been engrossing in a long time, the professional sport setting really brings everything together and makes it feel hype as frick when you're fighting everyone with the crowd cheering on.
The legendary fight in it is also one of the few times where they actually try to make it seem like a legendary battle, everything from the music to the presentation in that bit was great.
If it wasn't for the performance issues, SV could've easily been a top 3-5 Pokemon game imho. I had more fun with it than PLA and even BotW and TotK
I had that same feeling that you had. I think its a combination of the lead people at gamefreak not giving a shit and the B team having an actual vision for their game. Also short deadlines .ect If the next game announced isnt a legends game then the series is even more dead than it already was
>never able to go back to her own time
>dies hundreds of years before she's even born >never saw her friends or family ever again
Kinda dark actually.
That's Akari, not Dawn dumbass
moron, she's shown going back in time at the very start of the game.
There's even an unused model of her modern day room in the game files they didn't use.
Nothing at all implies that Akari is Dawn, dumbass, and you're "big proof" just backs it up by proving this girl isn't Dawn because thats not what Dawns room looks like in any rendition of RSE. This girl could be Dawn's great great great grandchild who went back to the past.
so are you implying that Ingo isn't the 'real' Ingo who also got dragged out of his time? why would Dawn/Lucas be any different?
> because thats not what Dawns room looks like
She's clearly older, you think 15 year old Champion Dawn would keep her room the same as when she was 10?
Arceus certainly allows her to go back EVENTUALLY it's just if he lets her go back immediately he can't stuff her into a sequel.
But anyway that is Akari and not Dawn.
>He thinks Dawn went back into the past and not Lucas.
>He doesn't think he sired a billion different descendants with Akari, Cyllene, Arezu, Mai, Sabi, and Cogita.
Irida is for Adaman, obviously. Otherwise how else would Perrin come to be?
SV is decent it just looks like shit and runs like shit.
I actually just beat Scarlet and Violet for the first time after not playing a pokemon game since X and Y and honestly, it may just be the fact it's been so long, but I think it's the best pokemon ever made from a purely gameplay stand point. Exploring the world and finding shit is super fun, though the world itself is absolutely hideous and has no visual appeal or atmosphere to speak of, not even including the horrible, horrible performance when you're moving around. Also I really really hate the fact that a lot of pokemon are missing from the game. That dexit shit pisses me off.
That's one of the many reasons why I ignored SV and bought Arceus instead, everything I've seen from that game screams low quality, from the horrible textures, hideous graphics and character designs, characters popping in just a few meters away from them, the stupidly lazy lack of interiors, the laughable "eating" animations, the lack of physical contact on attacks, and so on. Arceus might also have many flaws, but I definitely do not regret the purchase, it feels like the Pokemon game I had always wanted and it helps that it was set in my favorite region.
I actually hate the stadium concept they used in SwSh and I really dislike Dynamax as a gimmick, so I'm also passing on that one. To be honest, I really have no interest in mainline games anymore if they keep being developed as sloppily as SV.
>I actually hate the stadium concept they used in SwSh
It's just the natural progression of the 8 badges/Elite 4 set up and the same as Pokemon Stadium or Coliseum, but fair enough I guess. I would personally argue that Arceus was also sloppily made too, but again fair enough. I'm not gonna deny and then argue about your own personal feelings.
ALL pokemon needs to do is iterate upon PLA. Tweak the animations so it looks more and more like the mons are actually doing the moves and hitting each other. Add in core mechanics from mainline games etc and expand upong the ones PLA experimentally went with. Thats it. They have FOUND the formula for success forever. They just need to put all the peices together.
Plus, they REALLY need to talk to the guys who ported witcher 3. Learn from them how to fit everything on the fricking cart.
Frick dlc's and frick downloading the game you just fricking BROUGHT as a physical cart.
Pokemon games MUST come out every year in order to make new merch for the next year, which is where all the money comes from
Stop expecting good pokemon games.
It will never cease to amaze me how much money is in merchandising. Like I dont think about it ever never gave a shit about toys and keychains but it makes sense. A pokemon plush can easily be like 20 bucks if not more.
Fricking same. I dont get it. You spend this money for a doll or plush or something that you may frick around with for a few days at most and then it just sits there forever collecting dust. What is the point?
It makes the Mario franchise's presence on that list all the more impressive, considering how little it's earned in merchandising.
>It will never cease to amaze me how much money is in merchandising
This is why you see every homosexual on youtube/twitch or just has a website, shill their own tshirts and shit they get made in china for a few bucks and then sell to morons in the west.
How the hell has Winnie the Pooh made that money? Was it REALLY that popular in the mid 20th century?
>ruins your entire community.
Do these fricks still insist that anything which interferes with their precious sand teams be banned?
I will never bend to their house rules.
You WILL stall and you WILL be stalled
They dont even stick with that anymore, Glsigor got banned from OU doing the same toxic stall it always has.
>Site run by a bunch of basement dwellers
>"university"
This will never not be funny to me
I like how chuds here insist in being on the wrong side of history for entirely hipster reasons. SV was exactly 9999 time better than SwSh and was a great game
Thats not the point. The point is that SV is a berjillion times shitter than PLA.
EVERYONE was annoyed by how much LESSER SWSH was.
being better than swsh is not an accomplishment
the recent dlc brought the game to at least a 7/10 overall. I just wish that it included some sort of battle facility, especially since it actually expects you to EV train your team for all the important battles, so once you're finished with it there's nothing to do with them aside from random online matches and raids
Why the frick is Beldum so hard to catch? This fricker is more resilient than any legendary, I'd have caught them twice over by now.
git gud, I caught a shiny one in a luxury ball on my 6th try
>low red health
>tried multiple different statuses when throwing
>1 Quick Ball, 2 Timer Balls, 50ish Ultra Balls and a Premier Ball spent out of frustration later
>finally gets caught
>Why the frick is Beldum so hard to catch?
The Beldum line has the same catch rate as Legendaries, try sneaking up on them before starting with a Quick Ball.
PLA is really boring and I don’t get why people suck it off
because it's rollslop
It's the yearly release cycle, you can tell which one they put their hearts into and which one was an intern summer project.
Anyway Akari thread
SV was obviously a standard pokemon game until PLA's reception forced them to overhaul it into open world. That's why it's rushed and buggy as frick.
and what will be the next game's excuse as "it's their first 3D console game" was Sword and Shield's.
Pokecope will continue by saying "Well this is the first 3D and Open World on the new system"
>SV was obviously a standard pokemon game
It obviously wasn't. They were already experimenting with open worlds with SwSh's wild area and there's nothing in SV resembling the routes of the older games.
Why did he do it bros
no seriously I still don't know why the frick he did it
>miserable and alone as he grew up
>delved into myths and legends to deal with the sadness
>finds about Arceus, literally God, an entity who could answer why does he have to suffer
>puts his whole being into meeting it, turning into pure devotion, but also an obsession
>goes as far as throwing a calamity onto the whole region just to enter its realm
>then (You) appear, literally chosen by God
>it's just unfair
For a reason he gets shipped a lot with Akari/Dawn, not even God answered him but this girl came to help him chase the legends he so badly wanted to discover from the kindness of her heart, yet his obsession still got the best of him.
>CynthiaXDawn is really popular what do we do
>Make Cynthia an older man, bam, done
These games really need voice acting by now cause I played all the way to the lategame thinking Volo was a chick
this fricker and the black rapping hag in gen 9 having no voice acting hurt them so badly. shit is so bad its embarrassing to play
its really weird that they didn't give them any voice acting when they sort of did it with gen 5 with roxies gym theme being her singing
But you know who had voice acting?
Roxie, on the Nintendo DS
Still the best
I think he gets shipped with Akari because Cynthia was shipped with Dawn that and hes like the only other major character in that game aside from the clan leaders that people draw.
Literally Kieran
actually its supposed to parallel cyrus
about Arceus, literally God, an entity who could answer why does he have to suffer
>>puts his whole being into meeting it, turning into pure devotion, but also an obsession
Literally Praetor Amalthus lmao
They were likely being developed concurrently by different teams
GF expected Arceus to flop and for everyone to hate it
legends was so shit it convinced me finally that these game will never be good again so i didnt buy scarlet/violet.
Scarlet is not so bad, I might play Arceus and Sword & Shield later to see the difference.
Brown bricks
in minecrap
The Scarlet/Violet DLC brings the game's score up at least 1 whole point for me because it has the series' best rival character with a bullet. I didn't think they had the gas to make characters like this little frick anymore
him being so mindbroken by the fact you're a battling prodigy was sad, I just wanna give him a hug
He's the natural evolution of what they've been trying to do ever since Hau in Gen 7 when they first started having the characters start to acknowledge that it's pretty crazy the way everything in the world revolves around you in these games. It's almost this weird meta-commentary on how piss easy the games have become that the typical experience is that you roll into town, capture every legendary Pokémon that the local culture has founded its mythos upon, and proceed to vaporize the region's most powerful trainers within the span of a couple days. From the perspective of a character that's been working their entire lives to get even half as good as the player character, that's pretty fricked up! It was incredible to have someone who finally comes out and says
>"Hey, I've been trying to meet this Pokémon my entire life and you're just going to swooce right in out of nowhere, capture it right in front of me, and disappear forever once your weekend's over? What the frick"
It was even better when he started coping by telling himself that he could make up for it with Terapagos and you could see the horror in his eyes when it starts toddling towards you instead.
and that's based as frick
we are the main character and our job is to cuck every npc
Oh yeah, I relished every second of that fight. Absolutely delightful of GF to make him do this when you send out Ogerpon, I fricking cackled
>Seethed so badly his whole team is male pokemon
His team is actually full of counters for each Ogerpon form. Leading with Drizzle Politoed lets him spam Weather Ball, Hurricane, and Thunder, plus it fricks up Hearthflame's damage output. My man was seething to death
I didn't really see it with Hau, but instead more so with Hop in the next gen, especially after Bede fricks him over with "You're the champions brother and you're THIS weak?"
Yeah, Hau just kind of lamely remarked that he wished he was stronger, or something to that effect. But there was a hint of him being bothered by losing to you. Of course, any effort to make him and Hop interesting at all is completely neutered by the way they immediately slobber on your wiener after expressing even the mildest disappointment. They were way too toothless. Glad GF let the writers take the weights off for this one.
At least Eusine was humble about the player getting Suicune.
>Have terrible team
>wtf how did i lose
>have grass/dragon type
>give it berry that nerfs super effective ice damage
>instantly tera it into fighting type anyway, making said berry useless
I like how in swsh Leon does a little seething animation before putting a smile on for everyone.
Akari has a pretty harsh resting b***h face, which is kinda funny since she's actually pretty chipper and helpful
That's the "god I wish lucas was fricking me right now" face
soon
>When you create a time paradox just to frick your gender-swapped self
Lets talk about why Pokemon is shit ok
The turn based battle system in Pokemon puts me to sleep, no Im not saying scrap it Im saying make the turn based combat more you know engaging and exciting not boring
They ideally should have an easy mode and a hard mode. Easy mode would just be regular Pokemon and for people who just want to casually play, but hard mode would have all the trainers using actual strategies even if not quite Competitive level AI and level scaling so you can't outlevel them. Also add an option to skip animations and the text popping up mid battle.
>They ideally should have an easy mode and a hard mode
I have been saying this since gen 3. I dont understand why they dont do that as it would immediately fix a bunch of problems and everyone would be happy. Its not even that hard to do from a coding standpoint. They literally did it in gen 5, just have it from the start for fricks sake
It is a little hard to do because they would have to actually design these strategies that their AI follows so they actually do pull off their tactics, especially so for gym leaders and elite 4 types of named characters. Level scaling also isn't just as simple as making every enemy go up one level when you go up 1 or 2. Same with the balance side of things, like if it's free roam than you've got to reasonably be able to defeat most gyms in any order which is an ordeal if they're well trained. You'd need to have an intended order of progressive difficulty with the ability to skip around. There is unironically a lot to think about, and that's only stuff I can think of as someone who would get creamed if I ever actually tried to play online.
Indigo Disk makes the AI a bit more creative because the entire DLC is doubles, so you get actual VGC strats from time to time, and every trainer's pokémon actually have held items that make sense. Of course, it's DLC, so you already have several squads of level 100 killing machines that brute force their way through it, but you can see that they know how to make tougher content still.
I know it can happen, I'm just saying it isn't as simple as just flipping a switch you know? There is a lot of things that go into game design that you'd have to take into account, even stuff that isn't necessarily connected to battling directly. Having two separate difficulty modes in this way would take a lot of work, and for a large portion of the fanbase would be redundant because they mostly either care about casual play or competitive and not PVE.
If you aren't bringing in your Lvl 100 squad of killing machines, the battles in DLC 2 can genuinely obliterate your anus.
I dont have any VGC experience, beyond what cursory shit I know, and this shit is brutal.
>Same with the balance side of things, like if it's free roam than you've got to reasonably be able to defeat most gyms in any order which is an ordeal if they're well trained.
Crystal Clear just scaled based off of how many badges you had. So if you fought falkner with 0 badges he has a low level pidgey. If you fought him at like 15 badges he has a level 70+ zapdos or some shit. You also could start in any town and had like 24ish starters to choose from. HMs werent mandatory but you needed them to explore optional side stuff.
Im not saying it wouldnt take work, but if a single autist can make it work then they sure as frick can. But they wont because its all about maximizing profits rather then delivering good product.
PLA did this, getting into battles seamlessly and being able to move your character freely during combat really made it feel like you were watching two creatures fighting. But of course SV went right back to gameboy battles.
yes but the fast/strong battle system with move order was fricking moronic
that and the lack of trainers
one thing gamefreak shouldn't change is the battle system
everything else can go
Yeah, I agree. But battles were more dynamic and much faster.
nah the new system was way better, it was possible to get wiped by a single strong pokemon
that's a good thing
Yes but it came at the expense of abilities and hold items. Literally one step forward two steps back.
we don't need those things
that stuff is intended for people to create strategies in PVP, its not needed for a single player experience
>Lets talk about why Pokemon is shit ok
It's a setting with so much potential besides JUST the turn based monster-raising sim as seen by the deluge of really good Pokemon titles in the 90's and 00's like Hey You and Colosseum and Ranger
But every fricking time
It takes a literal act of god to force them to break from the formula even once, even a little, even to get Legends Arceus which is like a minor step in the 3D Pokemon Ranger direction everyone has wanted for over a decade. EVEN THOUGH it sells like gangbusters and everyone loves it when they do.
Like what the frick
Yeah I get WHY they do it that way, they probably have a template called "Pokemon Game" in whatever engine they make and just drop in the new assets and maps and press compile and that fulfills their yearly quota. At the same time, we don't even get the actual bare-minimum games like Trade Card Game slop anymore, which are actual bare-minimum effort games that even Konami can shit out every year with YuGiOh.
Fricking this. Do they have LESS teams at Gamefreak now? That's the only reason I can explain why all of the variety pokemon games quit coming out.
Mystery Dungeon was WAY BETTER than anything GF put out during the DS era.
I don't think most of those games were made by GF. I think they're licensed out.
Genius Sonority did most of the Colosseum games. I don't know why they just quit doing licensed pokemon games.
>I don't know why they just quit doing licensed pokemon games.
The purpose of all those spinoff games was to fill the game between main game releases. Now we're in a period where GF shits out a new main game or DLC every year so they're not needed anymore.
We still get spin-offs in the form of F2P games as a service mobile shit like Go, Unite, Masters and Cafe Remix.
the structure of the pokemon company is strange and that's a big reason these games suck
nintendo, creatures inc (which does TCG, merch, etc), and gamefreak all own 1/3 of the pokemon IP, together they make the pokemon company international
now the rumor was nintendo bought out at least part of creatures inc to give them the controlling share of TPCI and effectively do a hostile takeover of the game development. Shortly after this happened gamefreak moved their HQ into the nintendo offices and nintendo deployed the team that did breath of the wild to finish up legends arceus because of what a sorry state the game was in. That's why that game came out half way decently at the end
scarlet and violet were too far along in development to fix with the deadline they had because the game release has to go along side the new anime which means delays on mainline are not allowed to happen whatsoever
its possible now that nintendo is able to swing its dick harder with their new equity they are going to force gamefreak to develop the game properly or better yet pull the mainline IP from them all together
Do not compare kino rangers to legends slop.
>Lets talk about why Pokemon is shit ok
Pokemon is really only shit because of the potential pissed away. Not because the games themselves aren't serviceable. I say 'serviceable' because pokemon fans will eat anything. GF realizes this and that's why they piss so much potential away.
Avoid playing them on release and wait for modded version then
All the depth of pokemon series lie in the multiplayer, the mainline game has always been dogshit easy
You can beat elite four with 6 lv1 pokemon in every game if you know what you are doing
I was thinking that pla would have been the testbed for going forward, adding MORE mechanics from mainline and keeping the PLA stuff for the games going forward.
But then they just abandoned all pla thinking and went back to red and blue.
Not even fricking heartgold or soulsilver goodness. Just basic a f.
the 3 main problems facing arceus
it's visually putrid looking
the entire story is delivered through exposition dumps of characters just standing there dropping text walls
the late game XP isn't balanced so it gets really grindy
all of these things could be fixed with a little more time to work on the project. I'm glad they prioritized where they did to put out what they managed to.
releasing two in-house mainline games in one fricking year has predictable results
>I had such hope for this franchise for such a small period of time.
yeah that was me too. Arceus wasn't perfect but it felt so good and a step in the right direction
Pokemon are terrifying creatures!
What is the cloth on Discount Dawn’s head called?
>What is the cloth on Discount Dawn’s head called?
A rag.
Tenugui, I think.
Started emulating Legends Arceus last weekend and it's really refreshing take on the formula, but fricking hell is it ugly as sin. The biggest "if only they had x more years for development" i have gotten in a long time. Also the animations getting fricky above 30fps really sucks.
Yeah, "ugly as sin" is pretty much much Switch Pokemon in a nutshell, especially SV with the horrendous character design and textures.
>how did we go from bare bones ugly grindgest to bare bones ugly grindfest???
legends shitceus: throw pokeballs and balm, roll in dirt, complete grindy chores and lists
sv: most fun pokemon games in the entire series
the main reason SV is fun is because of autobattles, that's a real fricking problem for you when the feature that allows you to completely skip the core mechanic of your game improves the game
not really, but whatever helps you cope
>the main reason SV is fun is because of autobattles
What the frick kind of take is this?
Have you actually used the autobattle feature? You get less exp, and your pokemon eat shit if they're underleveled or weak to the opposing pokemon's type.
Legends Arceus is extremely boring.
I genuinely wonder how little timmy is gonna be able to beat the elite 4 in Indigo Disk.
Even if he brings his level 100 Miradon, I still think these battles would obliterate timmy.
I don't know who Timmy is, but all you need to do is just use Sword Dance once or twice dude. They can't outspeed or survive a level 100.
>I don't know who Timmy is
A "Timmy" is a catch all term for little kids.
Little Timmy doesn't use status moves, because they don't do damage.
Sorry, that was just a deadpan joke. As a former professional little Timmy who has completed many games with his starter being like 30+ levels above everyone else and one party slot always being a HM slave, I can confirm that most of them will probably be easy to deal with. Only Drayton will defeat a little Timmy, everyone else will succumb to potions and super effective spam.
>As a former professional
A professional what?
I couldn't really be bothered with this DLC so just brought legendries and only used attack moves and it was easy, the only part that worried me was where you had to use pokemon you caught in the polar dome but even then I just caught the first 6 I needed to do the challenge and even then I didn't level them or give them new moves and it was still easy. The DLC isn't as hard as people are saying, if a kid struggled using non-legendaries they can just swap team to legendries and win.
How many times was this delicate modern age girl impregnated by her ugly smelly hick husband before tuberculosis took her at the ripe age of 32?
Pokemon peeked with Emerald, that was the tippy top, why do you all still care about the series when it peaked already?
I liked the gen 3 remakes, if only for delta episode. actually letting us catch and even shiny hunt for a mythical pokemon like deoxys as part of the story was kino
I'm mind broken by nemona
Because the games leading up to the (supposed) peak and the games heading down from it are still pretty good.
Peaked*
B2W2*
Dunno, why do people still care about America when it peaked in the 50s?
The concept is neat and some of the monster designs are still neat. I don't play the games anymore, though.
We should have a thread discussing which game series peaked
The dress up game of Legends was weak as frick, but it was still miles above the travesty of SV.
X&Y is still king. The games need to go back to a fashion based setting and girly girls already.
I just wish 60% of the outfits weren't those binding ones. The winter ones also look completely out of place yet take up so much of the item amounts, and the worst part is the shoes and Ushanka don't fit with anything because they stick out like a sore thumb so you either use the full out of place outfit or none of it.
openworldmon will never be fun.
It's always been open world.
>How the frick did we go from Legends: Arceus t- *blocks your path*
>correpted
how's the framerate in this game, did they ever fix it or is it still unbearable to play?
Some anons cry about drops that are just like 28 or 58 FPS, I don't know what your tolerance is. The game generally runs at a consistent FPS probably below 30 so it's easy to ignore in this type of game, but it is very notably bad. Frame drops mostly only happen for a short while when you're entering water for some reason or specific things are popping in like Legendary spawns (not regular Pokemon though). Basically nothing that will really impact gameplay, but it still runs like shit and feels like shit.
ehh... im kind of being influenced into buying this one but... i'll just wait for the next entry, hoping they learned from this game and actually make a decent playable pokemon game.
dude the framerate in the 3d games has been terrible since XY and hasn't got much better
i played the XY and Ultra Sun/Moon ones, compared to violet, they run pretty well, the only times i've seen them struggle is on the double battles and horde battles, which is pretty understandable, its a 3ds after all...
If you use CFW/cheats to turn off the outlines they draw on everything, it performs better.
can you do this on an old 3ds? or is this a new 3ds thing?
I don't think the next one will run any better unless that Switch 2 stuff turns out to be true and it's on that, anon. If you're being influenced to buy it by friends it might be worth dealing with the terrible framerate just to play with them, but otherwise I'd just ignore if performance stuff annoys you or maybe ask an emulation thread whether it runs better on there.
the switch 2 could be a supercomputer and gamefreak will still manage to make the game run like shit, plenty of games on switch run at a decent framerate gamefreak is just awful at programming and has been for 27 years
Sure maybe, all I'll say is that I've played other very similar games on the switch like Monster Hunter Stories, Dragon Quest stuff, Atelier games, Rune Factory 5, Etc and they all played just as shit as these games do. I don't personally care that much, but I'll still point out that it's shit like I did. However I have no idea what anons are talking about with the DLC making it worse or 2 second freezes, I haven't experienced any of that.
everyone else noticed it. Why haven't you?
He's Joe
I don't know. Maybe you're all lying or over exaggerating like anons do constantly on all aspects of games from gameplay to performance, or maybe I'm just wrong. It's hard to tell because anons are biased against Pokemon games overall. So who knows, and who really cares?
>Maybe you're all lying
This is genuine schizophrenia.
Yeah, as we all know Ganker posters never lie or shitpost, they're beacons of truth in these dire times. And jokes or not serious post like mine are just truths coming to light, after all.
Why don't you apply that same logic to the guy who replied to me acting as if it's impossible to have differing opinions?
>Why don't you apply that same logic to the guy who replied to me acting as if it's impossible to have differing opinions?
Because I don't care about that? But you are 100% wrong about the frame rate in SV.
>Because I don't care about that?
By your logic would be schizo as well, thinking I'm just saying something purely to lie about it or play cover up. You don't have a problem with the reverse though because you're biased against Pokemon like him whether justified or not, which is all I implied in my post.
I didn't say or imply anything like that, schizophrenic-anon.
we dont even need a switch 2, im beating a dead horse but, we've had a huge chunk of better looking games running at a stable 30 fps, its really just gamefreak's fault for their crunch...
The framerate somehow got worse and worse in each DLC area. The second one sometimes makes my game freeze entirely for a few seconds.
>you can fly up to the orb at the top of the Terarium dome and find some items there
>whole Terarium visible below with no culling like the base game
Genuinely cool but it's ridiculous they tried something akin to Tears of the Kingdom with their dogshit inadequate engine.
The DLC made the framerate worse.
Did it effect just emulators, or is it fricking the actual hardware up too?
They never fixed the framerate. It's still like webm related on current patch and yes, this is on actual hardware. I took the footage personally.
Casseroya Lake, the mountains, the swamp area in the canyon (Southwest of the watchtower), and Tagtree Thicket are the only real areas that get this bad with Casseroya being the worst and it goes to single digits if it's raining at times.
Stellar tera type Malamar is going to destroy the raid meta, and I can't wait to see them everywhere
Every switch pokemon game is on different degree of shit, saying that PLA is better than SV or SwSh is like saying that one turd is better that another one because it's more solid
We went from a flop to a success, what a surprise
I think my annoyance with pokemon is their desire to completely ignore other games sometimes.
Why the frick did they not just reuse the Totem pokemon as a concept in PLA instead of the moronic Alpha pokemon which was basically the same thing.
i dont know why gamefreak believes they need to have a new gimmick in every main line pokemon instead of expanding mega evolutions and focusing in other things outside of pokemon battles, like forming a gang, bonding with your rival or some shit that makes the game not repetitive.
>i dont know why gamefreak believes they need to have a new gimmick in every game
>They should add gimmicks like making a forming a gang
:/
i specified expanding the gameplay outside of pokemon battles, when i mentioned forming a gang, i mentioned something like recluting npcs to fight against other teams like skull or some shit, something that doesn't affect the pokemon battles at all.
>when i mentioned forming a gang, i mentioned something like recluting npcs to fight against other teams like skull or some shit
No you didn't. Where did you mention that?
Also sounds like a shittier, more gimmicky version of a battle tower.
>No you didn't. Where did you mention that?
>focusing in other things outside of pokemon battles
You know what i meant, you dont need to act like a dickhead, besides, im not fricking gamefreak, i just threw a quick idea in.
>You know what i meant
I literally didn't know what you meant. You didn't say anything.
Scarlet and violet had the opportunity to be the best games in the franchise since gen 4 if they had more development time
>Best story since bw
>Best sidequests
>Best new pokemon since gen 4
>Best gimmick since megas
But they had to rush it out for holiday 2022 because whoever is in charge at TPC is a professional moron
>Best story since bw
>Best sidequests
>Best new pokemon since gen 4
>Best gimmick since megas
This has to be bait.
It's not, please name another game that does all of these things better anon
>Best story since bw
XY has a better story, time travel shit is dumb as frick and doesn't even make sense (legendary beasts). Legends arceus is better but thats just giving more lore to sinnoh which is always good.
>Best sidequests
Legends arceus has decent missions I don't even know what sidequests SV has.
>Best new pokemon since gen 4
debatable, gen 5 added a ton of my favorites and basically introduced regional variants before they were actually a thing but you'll just go ">gen 5" because muh icecream
>Best gimmick since megas
every gimmick after megas was shit including this one
>DLC is actually pretty difficult
Masuda, have mercy
>he doesn't know double battles.
Like you have a legendary that sets up a terrain, and a whole slew of paradox pokemon that use said terrain.
Use them
Arceus is overrated as frick.
So the next one will be Legends: Original Dragon
Right?
Both are garbage games. Arceus was empty shit with grindy, Skyrim radiant tier quests. SV is just a turd, but a very open one.
Gamefreak does not actually care in the slightest about making a good game. They are just there to make money while doing the least work possible.
>They are just there to make money while doing the least work possible.
that's business 101. you don't run a company to not make money with the highest amount of work possible
The real best Pokemon game is Explorers of the Sky, and that's a fact.
You're not wrong, that game is sublime.
She has a giant futa wiener
PLA was fun for the first few hours and then got boring because it's the same shitty catching grind.
SV despite being lazy and full of technical issues had actual content.
I like the IDEA of PLA more but overall SV was the better game. While nowhere near as good as the DS games, I'd put SV above SwSh and all 3DS games except ORAS.
>SV despite being lazy and full of technical issues had actual content
The same gym challenge but with less of the "challenge" part is not content
And neither are the godawful titan fights or team star battles that are 90% cutscene and 10% attack spam
Taking the exact same game but removing level design and enemy encounters is not introducing anything engaging just because you have an open world with no thought put into progression and wild pokemon that just spawn around you in random swarms like monsters on the Zelda II overworld
>Mythicals are banned from anything worth a damn
What's the fricking point?
ITT: Pokezoomers btfo by the collectathon genre
why are you asking it as if Arceus was released in an acceptable state? It just got off the hook easier because people thought it was a rushed spinoff to focus development on the next mainline title
Arceus looked bad but it ran fine. SV can't hit 30fps 95% of the time and it looks even worse.
yeah that's the thing, SV is EVEN WORSE, but arceus was already awful
I feel like Arceus actually looked decently good in the first area but somehow went only downhill partially due to the terrible color usage of the other areas but also due to the fact that the short range LOD means that you won't see most foliage when mounting instead of walking.
Arceus feels like it lacked a year of extra polish while S/V felt like they were fundamentally badly made
It helps that Arceus had areas instead of having to load the entire region in one go. I still noticed a couple of freezes here and there, but I don't really recall any instances where the framerate dropped to a crawl like in SV. As always, Pokemon games badly need that extra year of development to fix all of those problems which have become even more prevalent once they made the jump to the Switch.
>It helps that Arceus had areas instead of having to load the entire region in one go
And is purely single player, and has fixed spawn locations at map gen, and doesn’t have to give a frick about comp balance. Of course it runs better, they didn’t have to design it around 4 people running around on opposite ends of the game world.
>Perfect the modern Sugimori artstyle humans in a spinoff game
>Throw it away for Turnerslop in the main series
This is the best Sugimori has been since GB/GBC. These frickers were so damn adorable and expressive, and they threw it away. If Sugimori needs to retire they could've just had their art team imitate him like the gacha game has been doing. At least a good number of the side characters in S/V are better than Sw/Sh, but frick those protagonists and the champion. Why does the Gacha have better models than the console game?
The way her expressions change when you catch a Pokemon are too cute, same with all of the other female characters, they absolutely nailed it. There's a good reason why SV got a lot of shit when it was first revealed, it just looks ugly and the colors being so washed to the point they look completely different from their 2D art makes it even worse. Did you know that Poppy is supposed to have yellow in her clothes?
James doesn't work at Gamefreak anymore. He makes indie games now. Be was always the one pushing for Gamefreak to make shit other then Pokemon so evidently he didn't want to make it his entire life.
>Lucas dates Dawn
>sent back into the past
>dates Dawn's great great great great
It's actually Lucas' great great great great
they did the nasty in the pasty
GF is a shitty dev who just chases trends without executing anything well
Arceus being different was merely chasing the open world trend, poorly, just like SV also chased the open world trend, poorly, Arceus was just more different than the typical pokeslop
I still hope for another Legends game. Would probably be the only thing to get me to buy Switch 2.
Yeah it's impressive how fast they improved from PLA
I was really afraid they'd keep that dogshit battle system
Name one improvement
i love akari's RBF
*Doof*
Lmao both of these games were developed at the same time and are at about the same level of mediocrity. You just went for the lesser-of-the-two-evils deal
They really played people like a piano with PLA, huh? They just ditched all the Sinnoh stuff as soon as they were done squeezing money with it and moved on to Unova key jangling lol
Sinnoh got a (shitty) remake and a prequel game, that's more than what most non-Kanto regions get at once.
Arceus was written by people who care about Pokemon, they want to expand the universe and were genuinely interested in exploring a time when Pokemon and humans weren't friends
Scarlet / Violet was written by people phoning it in, where you go on a by the numbers adventure collecting the same old shit youve been collecting for 30 years, then the game director tells you that friendship was the treasure all along or some gay shit like that, thanks for the money sucker
>Arceus was written by people who care about Pokemon
no it isn't. they pulled a cop-out at the last second with the whole alternate timeline shit.
>they pulled a cop-out at the last second with the whole alternate timeline shit.
When? And to be fair, GF has used the multiverse excuse since ORAS.
Hope it gets a Switch 2 performance patch. For how shit it looks, I'd expect a more stable framerate.
Legends Arceus has a better soundtrack than SV by a mile.
>Bu bu bu muh Toby Fox
Overrated. He only produced ONE good track in his life.
thanks for the shit opinion furry pedo
So what's the explanation for the Johto legends being dinosaurs? I thought they were supposed to be other Pokemon that died and reincarnated as we see them in GSC?
Protip: Game Freak doesn't care about story.
there is no explanation
Arceus benefited from being an experiment so the devs had more freedom to have fun with it. Being mainline game Scarlet/Violet never had a hope of being anything more than lcd-appealing slop
pokemon's quality would be stellar if they went back to 3~4 year release cycles. we all know they won't because money.
I like Legends because it gave us this guy.
I love this motherfricker like you wouldn't believe.