how the frick do i get good at this game.
i can handle hurt me plenty but ultraviolence feels like there isn't even close to enough ammo
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how the frick do i get good at this game.
how the frick do i get good at this game.
i can handle hurt me plenty but ultraviolence feels like there isn't even close to enough ammo
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Save scum, it's built into the game for a reason (it's the intended way to play).
Filtered.
You can do pistol starts in ultra violence in every vanilla Doom map and no saves mid-level with barely any issue. Ammo may be scarce sometimes but that's more on you. You have to be more mindful of how you use your weapons. Don't fricking use the SSG with imps and zombies ffs
Better yet don't do this and work on self improvement instead.
Or you could just play the game however is fun for you
>SSG
>Doom
>You can do pistol starts in ultra violence in every vanilla Doom map
Plutonia wasn't built for pistol start.
>f-f-filt--
There's random ammo for weapons you can't get in every map.
>plutonia
>vanilla doom
It's an IWAD with vanilla gameplay, and it has Doom in the title. Is SIGIL not vanilla doom either then?
No, Sigil is not vanilla doom
I accept your concession then.
would a DOS compatible version released by Romero be considered vanilla?
Stop being a pedantic moron over what is or what isn't vanilla DOOM and what the person meant when he said all of vanilla DOOM is pistol-startable. DOOM without any other additions, no mods, no wads, no nothing, any source port, just DOOM as is. That's what "vanilla DOOM" is, SIGIL, Plutonia, nothing else fits under the umbrella of vanilla DOOM besides the normal fricking version of DOOM
chill the frick out it's bad for your health
also plutonia is an IWAD so i consider it vanilla.cope
So I guess that means Chex Quest is vanilla doom as well?
it's vanilla Chex as it's not Doom branded
sounds delicious tbqh
Terrible example. Thy Flesh Consumed is something that could actually be debated as "vanilla doom" or not, if it is "vanilla doom" then something like TNT or Plutonia could be argued as well
Yes, it absolutely was, or at least there's no level that can't be finished comfortably in Plutonis on UV, pistol start, and no mid level saving. There's a couple levels in Thy Flesh Consumed that are far harder with pistol start than anything in Plutonia.
Map02 has a bunch of random rockets and cells that are completely pointless if you're pistol-starting. Various other maps have random ammo for unobtainable weapons like Map02 but I can't name any off the top of my head. The infamous Map11 awards you with a BFG at the end which is completely pointless if you're pistol starting.
There's a difference between drawing a line in the sand and saying "Plutonia was made for pistol-start" and saying "Plutonia is beatable with pistol-start". The former is false and the latter is obviously true, everything is plausibly beatable with pistol-start because your fists have infinite ammo. It's a pointless statement.
There's a huge difference between a moderate challenge and 0 thought towards pistol start. A level with a 10 cyberdemons and 0 ammo with pistol start is practically unbeatable despite fist having "infinite ammo". Plutonia allows and is designed for both pistol start AND continuous play.
>how the frick do i get good at this game.
Play it
Get skulltag and play coop
>point at the enemy
>shoot at it until it dies
>repeat
Arm yourself with knowledge, OP.
by playing a good game, not an overhyped tech demo
Infighting, Daniel San
Look for hoards of different types of demons and have them get caught in their own frayed crossfire
Many different demon types can fight each other (some can’t) so see that as a way to conserve ammo.
>hitscanners vs meaties
>buff gays vs flying dweebs
Etc
also enemies with hitscan attacks can be made to fight their own kind, like zombiemen will shoot other zombiemen if hit by their bullets
Keep moving while in fights. Never be afraid to run away and assess your situation.
this tbh. also secrets can give plenty of ammo if you take the time to explore.
i have another question. what does partial invisibility do specifically? is it like a negative mod to the demons LOS?
harder for them to hit you
Depends on the sourceport as well. If you're playing any "vanilla" sourceport then partial invisibility just makes enemies miss you more. If you're playing on ZDoom/GZDoom/Zandronum, you are completely undetectable by unaggro'd enemies as long as you don't run.
That's the same problem I had. I started on Ultraviolence and was enjoying the challenge. Episode 1 was fun but once I got past that I was just running out of ammo all the time and dropped it.
Know where the secrets are, and learn to determine when you need to kill something, and when you can just run away or kite them.
Get use to using the berserk pack and the chainsaw to conserve ammo. The first two or three levels of episodes 2 and 3 are tight with ammo on ultra violence, even more so if you aren't hitting your shots.
those were the exact levels i was having trouble with, you read my mind. you're also right about the berserk pack, i gave up on using the two that are in the early episode 2 levels because i felt like i was taking a shit ton of damage but it seems like it's possible to "melee kite" and i'm just doing it wrong
did you watch this video? is comes off a joke but it's got some real good strats
>infighting only applies to pwads
Put down the bong anon
What are you doing? I just finished UDoom and Doom 2 for the first time last week, and I never even came close to running out of ammo.
On what difficulty?
I did UV-max
Unpopular opinion but I actually prefer maps with ammo scarcity over maps with excessive ammo. It makes you think more of what weapons to use and when. Nothing stupid like needing to punch everything tho
The only thing fun about Doom is shooting monsters, though. If you don't have enough ammo to keep that up there's no appeal to the game anymore.
The fun of Doom comes from interesting combat encounters that put your movement skills, threat prioritization, gameplay mechanics knowledge and your ability to think and act under pressure. If you just want to shoot demons you may as well activate cheats and mindlessly kill stuff like a brutal doom moron.
No, I want to be challenged while doing that. I doubt you'd listen to any explanation I could make as you can just say "git gud scrub" in reply.
Typical zoomer with brainrot who has been coddled by easy games that autosave every 15 seconds. Welcome to a man's game son.
I'm 32 and had the same problem as OP.
Perfect Hatred and Against Thee Wickedly are the only levels in Doom that should take you more than 3 tries to beat. If not, you might be moronic.
>Game is so easy that only two levels need retries
Thanks for the warning, I'll skip this one
While those are the hardest levels to pistol start, I remember one from Inferno with you in a hallway and a Pinky aggroed to you so if you don't instantly run towards the Pinky you'll be trapped punching/pistoling a Pinky in a hallway which is far from ideal.
lol u guys are soooooo bad roflmao. its piss ez to bait their attack ahahahahhaa. fuuuuuck u guys are terrible at doom.
You can, but punching/pistoling a demon isn't what I call a fun time, even if you bait them to constantly attack.
This is the problem. You can play really conservatively to retain ammo by using fists, etc. But it isn't fun. Shooting demons with a shotgun or something is fun. You already have to run around the levels looking for keys and shit. If you take away the shooting the game isn't fun anymore.
Tell me which levels you're talking about so I can pistol start them and see if ur moronic or not. Anyway Doom 1 is a really boring game, pistol start or not. Thought so as a child and I still think so, its sequel and its contemporaries are far better. Inb4 memethink drivel about level design from a bunch of circlejerking morons when Doom only has one good episode (first one) and a few good maps in E4. Meanwhile Doom 2 only has about five bad maps tops. But I digress. Tell me which levels you're talking about.
It's been a few years since I played it but I know it was after Episode 1. And I'm sure you can pistol start whatever you want. There are people who can do whatever challenge you can think of in any game.
>Inb4 memethink
>Doom only has one good episode (first one)
I guess memethink is only okay when you're doing it.
I barely come to this homosexualhole, I'm glad you dipshits have finally caught on. Hell you probably got it from me so that's good.
Played doom 1 and 2 for the first time recently and there’s a very noticeable drop in quality in 2. Obvious bait
doom 1 is for literal morons. not kidding. youre ugly too.
Lmao. How is it even possible to be bad at this game? I beat it on UV when I was like 9 keyboard only.
The secret is Heretic and Hexen and better.
I really want to enjoy Hexen but the puzzle hub stuff is utterly fricking miserable. Heretic was cute but it's missing the oomph in it's gunplay. Aside from the necromancer gloves everything feels like a nerf gun.
You could always try Hexen 2 which has actual difficult puzzles.
That's disheartening to hear. What a shame.
The weapons are balanced around using the tome of power, that's why they feel weak sometimes without it