How do you fight (and win) against an experienced telekinetic?
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How to Beat a Telekinetic
How do you fight (and win) against an experienced telekinetic?
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Surprise if he can't be baited into over-extending his powers and weakening them. Like does he use mental energy or mana or something? Can he use it up if he does too much at once or over extended periods? If not then the only way to beat them is to catch them by surprise or sniper them at a distance before they can use their powers. However, if he's a master psychokineticist, he's likely used his power to modify the nucleotide chains in the DNA molecules (genes) to regenerate so once you got him down you'll have to burn him.
Lasers?
Mind control?
Ghosts?
>Lasers?
photon are particles
>photon are particles
Nobody tell him
Even if he wasn't moronic, the hypothetical telekinetic couldn't react faster than light.
If the TK is powerful enough to manipulate small particles and faster-than-light reaction times, you're pretty much fricked regardless of what you do.
>That's a nice body you have there, it'd be a real shame if somebody pulled it apart at the molecular level.
The problem is, and comics pull this shit all the fricking time to the point that most people who read western capeshit don't even realize this is happening, that shit isn't telekinesis. Your 'telekinetic' character is actually using a half dozen other powers ON TOP OF telekinesis to enable their telekinetic bullshit.
If you have the ability to perceive and manipulate subatomic particles, your character is not telekinetic. Your character is Atom Eve.
Likewise, your character has some kind of superspeed, time dillation, or hypercognition if you are responding to events around you at instant speed like that.
Telekinesis is just moving things with your mind. It doesn't come with all of this extra shit for free, and assuming it does "because otherwise the power would be worthless!" is stupid and childish. People have weaknesses and limitations, they cant just do everything they want to because they want it. People with superpowers also have weaknesses and limitations. Hell, even restricting yourself just to telekinesis itself, your telekinetic abilities must also have some kind of limit. Just because you can lift something with your mind doesn't mean you can lift anything regardless of weight or mass, the ability to move a soda can does not mean you have the ability to move the moon. It doesn't mean your powers have infinite range, and it doesn't mean you can move a million different things at once.
I have the ability to kick a soccer ball. That doesn't mean I can kick a rocketship so hard it moves faster than light, or kick my way backwards in time. "I can kick something, so that means I can kick anything and use kicking to DO anything" is wibbly wobbly hack writing bullshit.
shut up nerd
Should read Anne McCaffrey's Talent series.
>Be mediocre TK Talent.
>Be chilling in a chair in a warehouse or cargo bay staring moodily as bulk containers pirouette to where they need to be while forkliftlets seethe at your blatant superiority.
>Be Micro-kinetic
>Can't lift a coffee cup, but you can turn the coffee in it into decaf. Reconfiguring things on a microscopic scale is your bag. Can Mend broken spines or other wounds, clear things like clots, staunch bleeding, or pull off seemingly impossibly delicate acts of physical manipulation. Style on old Asian people by making origami cranes at the molecular level. One of you has held off the discovery of Higgs Boson by hiding them all out of spite for the lead investigator at the LHC for years.
>Be epic TK Talent. You can Yeet shit with your mind so well, the World builds you giant power generators to either tap into to lift gigantic loads and teleport them into space/orbit/throughout the solar system/stars, or spin up in order to catch shit yeeted toward you from another of your number, dumping the excess kinetic energy into storage for use by the grid.
>The Talentless fear you. Everyone wants to be you.
>All of you have to eat with the fury of of 12 men to meet your bodies increased caloric demand, and likely suffer from chronic migraines/high blood pressure.
>All of you probably have at least some body count from when you were too young to really manage your focus. High school was hell. For everyone else.
Not OP. Added to the reading list. Thanks, anon.
>powerful enough to manipulate small particles and faster-than-light reaction times
such hero wouldn't need to have fast reaction times, just have constant "repel projectile" field active 24/7 (once you can manipulate particles on sub-atomic level you can probably bypass sleep somehow)
>manipulate small particles and faster-than-light reaction times
>get cucked anyway
frick
> such hero wouldn't need to have fast reaction times, just have constant "repel projectile" field active 24/7 (once you can manipulate particles on sub-atomic level you can probably bypass sleep somehow)
Thats not telekinesis, thats forcefields. Different power.
atomic / sub-atomic level telekinesis can mimic numerous other power - besides "forcefield" also flight, super-healing, x-ray vision, transmutation of materials, magnetism, heat, frost and electricity powers, etc. It's all just particles moving in particular matter.
The difference to my mind is that a forcefield is to some degree automated: you need only create the wall and you don't have to actively pay attention to everything that interacts with it. The wall is a wall for as long as it exists, and it behaves as a wall should.
Telekinesis does not run off of a supercomputer you ping with a command, everything that telekinesis does is only happening because you are making it happen by thought. A defensive 'wall' of telekinetic force is an illusion of effect, if I shoot you with 27 bullets you have to concentrate on each of those 27 bullets individually, if your attention lapses or you are distracted or you miscount the bullets, you are going to fail to catch one or more of them and they hit you and you probably die. You are not making a solid plane of force, thats a force field. You are playing 'catch the bullet' with every single thing thrown your way. The moment your brain is slower than the attack coming at you, or you get distracted, you lose.
Hmm, yeah, that also is a possible interpretation. And since no system was specified, and there's no real life reference for how telekinesis should work realisically, I'd say it is equally valid as any other interpretation.
>You are not making a solid plane of force
And why not? Why couldn't a telekinetic, with a thought, project a plane of force rather than a point?
Because that is no longer 'moving things with your mind', which is all telekinesis is, but rather making force constructs that behave as objects. If you want your telekinetic to be able to do that, I can't change your fiction. But its not telekinesis anymore than a telekinetic shooting lighting or rewinding someone to a baby would be. Those are different powers.
wrong
> he thinks that telekinesis is the ability to shoot lightning
See, this is why no one takes your opinion on this seriously
It's not but neither is it what you say it is (because you're wrong).
>Verification not required.
>A defensive 'wall' of telekinetic force is an illusion of effect, if I shoot you with 27 bullets you have to concentrate on each of those 27 bullets individually, if your attention lapses or you are distracted or you miscount the bullets, you are going to fail to catch one or more of them and they hit you and you probably die.
That's not neccesarily how telekinesis works. You make it sound like your telekinetic is only capable of affecting bullet-sized chunks of matter individually, which can be a specific limitation, but it doesn't really have to be (and that kind of tk won't even help you against gunfire unless you also have some kind of accelerated reaction or precognition, becuase you'd need to react to each individual bullet). Tk might as well be something like a wide wave of force applies over a large area, with shit getting caught in it getting pushed like it's caught in a wind current. That kind of tk would be less precise, but considerably more helpful against bullets or other small projectiles. It might functionally work similar to a moving forcefield, but as you said the only difference between forcefields and tk is whether the power is automated or manual.
Forcefields are 100% telekinesis dumb dumb.
>such hero wouldn't need to have fast reaction times, just have constant "repel projectile" field active 24/7 (once you can manipulate particles on sub-atomic level you can probably bypass sleep somehow)
If he's repelling everything down to photons constantly as a defensive measure, then he's also blind (need photons to see) and suffocating (gasses are much larger and slower than photons, so they'd be kept out too).
Sub-atomic telekinesis would allow converting carbon dioxide back to oxygen recycling air within the barrier indefinitely.
Sight would be a real concern though, I can't think of any simple workaround.
How's he paying the activation energy for all those reactions, Steve? Or maybe he's just straight reassembling the molecules with his mind, which would take insane concentration on top of everything else he's doing. But it still runs into the energy problem, Steeve. The amount of energy expenditure to make this all work would be enormous. The TK in this scenario would have insane caloric requirements. He'd have to be eating basically nonstop, which would still leave him vulnerable to toxins and poisons and the like. There's just no way to avoid a dedicated attacker, Steeeve.
Just eat high calorie foods, don't have to worry about cancer when you can telekinetically cure it.
None of that is bioavailable, unless we're also giving the telekinetic the ability to absorb radiation energy on top of everything else we're giving him beyond telekinesis.
You're being way too anal about this. Most forms of telekinesis by definition violate mass energy conversion. The whole point is producing (and projecting) more force than your body can pump out, without any expenditure of the energy store in your body (only your brain resources to account for concentration and shit). If it actually drained your energy reserves proportionally to the shit you do, you'd fricking kill youself just from lifting and tossing a car.
This is the same shit as saying "realistically growing in size would akshually snap your bones and suffocate you, not give you super strength and toughness". No fricking shit, but 99% of media operated on the assumptions that powers sidestep the more annoying ramifications of physical laws.
>faster-than-light reaction times
How the frick is that supposed to work?
NTA and this has frick all to do with telekinesis but you could have someone who is capable of such accurate predictive ability that they can react to things that have yet to happen and avoid them. Worm has several examples of this, though probably the most direct is Harbinger/Number Man who fights on autopilot. Another option would be to follow Accelerator (who is clearly the actual inspiration for OP, though he is not actually a telekinetic) and have a reflexive instinct that turns your powers on at a certain radius to deflect anything coming toward you. It works for him because he has vector manipulation and thus it doesn't matter if it's gas, liquid, plasma, or solid matter, or how fast it's going, he can fully control how it reacts /to him/. Accelerator is also the go-to for how to deal with someone like this, but I won't spoil it or feed bumptroony.
bad writing.
Usually writers not knowing what microseconds are
Typically it's the result of powerscalers assuming that the types of laser guns that Batman dodges are in fact, literal lasers and that Batman has light-speed reflexes, not that they're some sort of fictional sci-fi weapon that's actually way easier to dodge than a bullet, based on the fact that people routinely dodge it.
Become one yourself.
I'm tired of being at self-imposed disadvantages.
Poison gas? He can keep the gas away but he'll run out air eventually.
Cannot he A.) create a huge tornado around him B.) keep the harmful particles/gas molecules away C.). choose to filter the air
He probably can't filter the air but he might be able to make wind. Some telekinetics can't make wind, they need an object to focus on. If he can manipulate molecules accurately enough to filter the air then he can probably also poison you just by looking at you.
Shoot them. Humans can't respond faster than a bullet travels no matter how much power they have over physics.
land mines
Another telekinetic
>stop time
>kill
>resume time
If that is too overpowered you should mention the scope of the power system we are working with here.
Without preparation or an ambush, you're just fricked. They can move large amounts of bulk matter. You're a relatively small about of bulk matter. So in a set piece battle, they just use their incel rage to rip you apart.
If you have a good ambush, then you can just shoot them, since they can't react in time to disarm you or move the bullet. If they have some passive force field around them or are prescient for whatever reason, then you have to use a weapon that doesn't kill with bulk matter. Think electricity or radioactivity.
*relatively small amount
With a telepath.
Tinfoil hat. Steel types resist Psychic damage.
Speed and power and flight. If you can tank being hit by a car it doesnt really matter how many cars he throws at you. The flight is just so you can close the distance
Laser.
Blow them up when they are sleeping
He has to sleep at some point.
Travel to the past and molest his grandfather.
Wear him down or ambush.
Hire a crackhead to hire a crackhead to hire crackheads to kill him.
They won't succeed but they can wear him down mentally, ideally breaking his concentration over time.
Once he's worn down you just need to set a trap and shoot him out something.
Otherwise an ambush, try to kill him with his pants down and fast. Use the munitions that is most likely to score a clean kill, like multiple pounds of explosive.
When your power is the ability to move things with your mind, the point of failure is your mind. So anything that disorients the telekinetic, like strobing lights or smokescreens, will limit their effectiveness. Things that happen faster than they can react to, like landmines or supersonic bullets, will also kill them. Poison gas should work because even if they know the gas is poison they lack the ability to perceive individual molecules in the air so the most they can do is push the air around them away, which would be like waving your hand through smoke to fan it. You might move some of the smoke away, but you have no control over the air that rushes in to replace it so with enough gas you have nothing you can do about it but run away.
with sniper rifle from hide
Fake a punch
Poison his drink and rape him in the ass.
Alternatively, wait until he's asleep and rape him in the ass.
Yes, the ass part is important, Steve.
Easy.
It's like you kids have no awareness of the classics
SOmeone already mentioned laser rifles upthread
Cast an illusion on myself of him not existing, and willingly accept that as the new reality. He no longer exists.
A signle magical bullet or several gunmen shooting from multiple angles, whichever feel more plausible.
Kennedy and Connally were not seated like that. Kennedy's chair was higher and to the right of Connally's.
whichever feels more plausible ;^)
>Capeshit Style
Mind Control is probably best, Teleportation, Disintegration Ray maybe maybe not
>Fantasy/Magic
Mind Control again, Time Stop, Planar Teleportation, any ability from Chinese Fantasy
>Anime (non cheater style)
Touma Imagine Breaker, Symphogear ranged Conceptual Weapon (shield), a bunch of other stuff
>just me as a regular powerless human being
cuckoldry
Immunity to Descriptor: Telekinetic is like 10 points max. Then you just need PL average defenses and toughness, that's what, 40 points if you're not cheesing it. Then you can just go punch him.
>Immunity to Descriptor: Telekinetic
Wouldn't that be like most magic resistance, meaning it doesn't do much if the telekinesist use his power to throw regular-ass shit at you?
No, magic is different descriptor. Immunity to telekinetic means he can't throw you around, that's why we're getting it. For regular thrown objects we have our dodge check.
Stealth
Can't kill what you cant see
Can't stop what you don't know is coming
Option one: sniper headshot, if you don't have a "passive shield" it should work.
Option two: Poisonous gas, there are very powerful poisonous gases that disperse in such a way that no matter how much "tornado" you create, you will end up coming into contact with it.
Option three: Viruses or bacteria, although he can "see the future" if you secretly infect him with a deadly disease that takes weeks or months to incubate by the time he realizes he will be dead.
Option four: Bunker-busting missile. A fighter can launch a missile at several times the speed of sound from kilometers away, even if it has some shield, these missiles penetrate meters of armored plates. Every time I watch "Pacific Rim" I think "if a punch from a giant robot (which goes slower than sound) hurts him, how come they don't throw an anti-bunker missile at his head and kill him?"
Option five: Blinding lasers, no matter how much shield he has, it is surely transparent, just cause him temporary or permanent blindness with a laser, wait for him to get tired and attack then.
Option six: Harassment and scorched earth, use satellites, cameras and any other method to constantly chase and attack him, sooner or later he will get tired, sleep or try to eat. If you know where it goes you can spray pathogens on the food and water, hopefully it will eat them and die.
There's dozens of ways to do it, but all of them depend on the nature of his powers, which you never defined because this is a bumptroon thread.
Get him to frick some diseased prostitute then wait when he dies of AIDS or some superchlamydia.
>How do you fight (and win) against an experienced telekinetic?
What do the rules say about telekinetics, and what player options are available in the game you're asking about?
The thread is just OP shitposing with his no limits falacy
Telekinesis is simply applying force at a distance. How -much- force can he apply? Discover that amount, and then apply more.
Poisonous gas without any scent deployed discreetly. Or simply shooting them as bullets move faster than a human can register and react too. Though if they have a powers then things can get complicated. Really need to figure out all their abilities to make a solid plan.
Find his limits. Light? Either lasers or blinding spotlights. Gas? Tear gas or poison gas. Volume? Fire hose.
Snipe him with a fast cartridge (.220 Swift, .22-250, etc.). He'll have no conceivable way to react, even if he can somehow slow down time because the bullet will hit him before he hears the bang.
Carbon monoxide poisoning
Gas/spores/fire
Depending on the type of tk:
Lots of small projectiles
Fast moving projectile
Laser/energy weapons
Acid/poison
Blow them up
Tell him that he will get a free donut if he take the jab, duh.
Why would a single free donut be considered a good bribe for a telekinetic?
That might work on some sub-80 IQ individuals, not general population.