you've been saying this for years
granted now they are actually owned by xbox but I'd still like an official statement because COME THE FRICK ON, IT'S FREE MONEY
wow players are too elitist, they'd kick every consolegay from their groups. it'd be very dumb of them to do that. i'll go one step further, if someone takes too long to type in chat they'll be assumed to be a consolegay and get kicked.
Pservers realistically do not close, it has happened so few times that it's statistically irrelevant.
I have played pservers for pretty much a decade and I had only one occurence of it, which was a bad wotlk server that clearly wouldn't have been able to script Ulduar anyway.
I played Nostalrius to lvl 25 to chill with friends a bit but I hadn't touched it for months when it closed and I didn't care about it.
Blizzard literally cannot enforce a C&D unless you host in the USA with a publicly known address
All xpacks up to MoP included are currently playable and almost retail quality. The remaining flaws that make it a "almost" being completely irrelevant for most players anyway.
The flaws usually just silly scripting shit. In many cases the clients actually run smoother than whatever that distributed, laggy, Legion client Blizzard has running
>make dedicated servers for every expansion
they have already run classic into the ground in a few years. nobody except the <200k people still subbed care to run through old garbage with the same sweaty speedrunner strats that were figured out years ago by other people. having servers for every single installment would be a waste of time and also split the community even more.
>Abort current situation >Reset the entire universe back down to a grounded level. >Focus more on interesting objectives that naturally invite players to engage with each other as the goal rather than the loot. >Allow more community driven 'events' and creating their own fun. >Stop trying to nanny police everyone's thoughts and opinions. >No cash shop >Encourage content that invites veteran players to help and play with new players. >Keep old content fresh every once in a while with dynamic enemies or rewards. >Make interacting with the world more in depth that right-click to gather or kill X 10 times. >Have some story but not slapping you in the face. This is a world, you can follow the pre-made story or go frick off and be mad max or whatever your inner demon wants.
The real reward(s) should be the excitement and fun YOU had. Not chasing some low % item or feeling left behind. Those are just tools for math gays to jerk off over.
Part of the magic of the game is how it tailored to the times. The combat, the graphics, etc. It's all tailored to how we interacted and had for specs to reach the maximum audience in that time frame.
Space Satan was in Warcraft before WoW, as were helicopters. It was never grounded
I don't want to carry newbies, never mind that newbies don't exist in 2024 just shitters who have miraculously never learned to press their buttons despite playing for 8 years >The real reward(s) should be the excitement and fun YOU had. Not chasing some low % item or feeling left behind. Those are just tools for math gays to jerk off over.
Half of your suggestions were about adding concrete rewards to bribe players you moron. Even you know tangible upgrades and prizes are what people actually want
yeah morons like pic related who make up the vocal minority who ruin the game by forcing their food analogy viewpoints down everyones throats make the game not worth playing
wow cannot be played on a controller without massively gimping the entire game. Not to mention the game itself relies on addons to even be playable which is a no no for cucksoles. If they could they wouldve ported it years ago
No
Wow as it is wouldn't work with a f2p model
If you want something f2p tell microsoft to just make a new wow game but it's only pvp arenas and battleground
Wow pvp is decent, it would make lots of money and revitalize the IP
I suspect theres a bunch of people only still playing wow because of all the years of mogs mounts cheevos theyve built up. Rebooting the game as wow two and undoing that will legitimately kill the game.
>>port it to mobile, switch, xbox, everything
WoW is a team-based game and 95% of players are actually moronic. Its already bad enough dealing with latin american morons. moronic consolegays ontop of it would make pugging a fricking nightmare without the ability to filter these subhumans out. >>make it f2p
kys moron, dont need f2p homosexuals and even more bots ruining the game more ontop of the p2w GDKP Black folk >>make dedicated servers for every expansion
classic has proven nobody cares about legacy shit, they just play new thing and old thing dies immediately
I just refunded dragonflight. I think I gave it a fair chance but like 12 hours in it was just absolutely insufferable. The world is really ugly. The plot really boring. The quests insufferable and seeing how endgame is always the same garbage with mythic keys and broing raids I just couldn't justify spending 50 bucks on that preorder in order to get dragonflight. I doubt I'll be coming back for retail. SOD is fairly fun and I don't need to pay extra to play it
>fetch quests bad >fetch quests: boomer edition are TOTALLY SOVL BROS
A single retail raid boss mogs all of classic, but we both know you're too dogshit for retail raiding
>bro dude this raid boss that .1% of the playerbase ever sees totally mogs classic
Retail being a reverse filter has never been more true. You have brain damage.
Even normal mode raid bosses in retail mog classic, you're just genuinely too dogshit to handle any mechanics
Never mind that a games quality isn't based on what content soccer moms and dads play, it's based on what's there for actual gamers and by that retail obviously shits all over classic
> Even normal mode raid bosses in retail mog classic, you're just genuinely too dogshit to handle any mechanics
I came back for one raid tier and immediately got CE. Your ability to have basic nerve function is not impressive.
Blizzard would turn retail into mount NFTs if they could. They need morons like you to fill the world for their whale gamers.
>A single retail raid boss mogs all of classic
yeah it does. A single dungeon actually mogs any classic raid but thats not the point. You can cry like a little child all you want but the expansion fricking sucks. There were so many issues before that too with people abondoning dungeon runs for no reason. Leveling was absolute slog and a horrible and unfun experience and once I reached 60 and started dragoncringe (I tried shadowcringe before that and it's even worse) it was full of bots farming these dudes. On top of all those trans characters they shove into your face but I was willing to overlook it but god damn it's garbage. Either way I just don't even want to keep playing. I don't want to do those boring mythic keys and the raids are absolutely soulless.
I think that it's a good thing that there are active 2x4 farm groups out in the world. It's one of the last remaining breaths of MMO flavor remaining in this game.
>handcrafted raids with truly unique mechanics are soulless
Delusional and coping
Classic leveling is objectively a bigger slog, objectively more bot filled. You're just making up excuses because the game is too hard for you, but you're so shockingly stupid your complaints are more applicable to classic
you can try to frame this however you want but it won't change the fact that it sucked, was full of trannies and that wow endgame is soulless pretentious eltisim that feels more like a 2nd job than a game. I wasn't willing to put the time into it. SOD I can just hop on and have fun without being forced to do anything really. It's not perfect and has it's own issues sure but god damn it's so much better product than whatever retail is right now. Seeing how you gays are here defending bots I think I made the right decision not to keep playing.
It's only a second job if you go for the 0.1% titles in your chosen game mode. You can hop into 20 keys, heroic raid, or ~1800 rated PvP with ease on any given night.
>handcrafted raids with truly unique mechanics are soulless
Delusional and coping
Classic leveling is objectively a bigger slog, objectively more bot filled. You're just making up excuses because the game is too hard for you, but you're so shockingly stupid your complaints are more applicable to classic
No, it's about skill, that's why every MMO on the planet but classic WoW has actual challenge
And look, only classic WoW is a gdkpridden hellscape, crazy how that works?
Great have fun being skilled. Nobody else wants to play your high skill ceiling MMO. Your mentality literally pushed normies into playing minecraft over WoW.
Actually they do, which is why retail is more popular than classic
But hey I'm sure everything on SoD that's not a streamer server already dying is fine
If you want to defend normies you belong on
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4 months ago
Anonymous
>retail is more popular than classic
Um… sweetie…
4 months ago
Anonymous
lol dude nobody wants to play a high skill ceiling MMO. Its really antithetical to what WoW was. The promise to players was that if you play enough and jump through enough hoops, you can get the gear and you can be a virtual bad ass. Having skill be a big factor means that if you suck you just suck regardless of how much you play or how good your gear is. It directly destroys the motivation to play the game.
4 months ago
Anonymous
This is the most brown skin post I've ever seen
You're so bad at video games that the concept of improving through practice doesn't even cross your mind
Unreal, truly.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I don't want to be good at the game. I want to get gear that makes my character more powerful than yours.
If you want to play a game that is about the skill of the player then it should not be an RPG. Play an FPS game, or rocket league or whatever.
4 months ago
Anonymous
No, I like the wow gameplay dance.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You can't explain this to a wowbuck, they have 30 different strawman level cope layers as for why you're wrong and wow is better than ever.
Ignore that they had to add a f2p game monthly login fomo farm to the game and they have to giveaway rare removed cosmetics as incentive to get artificial viewers for every single one of their ""esports"" events on twitch for the past 3 years now
The actual way to fix WoW: >roll everything back to the burning crusade >it was all a dream >fire everyone who works there >get non morons to make next expansion
people always get mad because they expect wow when playing retail.
just play retail as a pretty good looking warcraft styled goyslop generic rpg with some multiplayer elements and you can enjoy it.
if you wish to play wow, play classic.
yeah then their chinese partners bought up a lot of their current and former senior staff and are throwing money at them just to make a new mmo in order to spite blizzard
they literally poached their lead combat dev lmao, he up and quit and joined up with the chinks the same day
this, gold farmers have nothing to do with chinese wow since chinese wow had its own servers and game client
any changs playing on na were unaffected by the netease thing
as long as the lead dev is a washed up raidpig the game will continue to be a raidpig slop trough with busywork for them to do a couple times a week when not oinking and squealing in their shitty unfun raids
all other content besides raiding has devolved into a minigame that gets less development time and focus than raiding even though a majority of retail players prefer 5 mans or pug raiding to 20 man scheduled raiding
>release the source code for every expansion so people can make better games from the base material >take all the developers and drop them in the woods 40 miles from the nearest settlement >create a national fat camp, use conscription to force fatties into shape >use electroshock therapy to reformat pervert brains >raise english, math, and science standards, drop all others
yeah, we probably don't
>make the playerbase non-morons
>integrate eye scanning technology so that no one with a brown iris can play
how you know i'm spanish
because i know ip addres i am hack good
puta
console wow is like 2 years away. MAX
wow fanbase been saying that since they started pruning skills back in..wod was?
you've been saying this for years
granted now they are actually owned by xbox but I'd still like an official statement because COME THE FRICK ON, IT'S FREE MONEY
YJK they'd force them together with PC players like they did with latin servers
wow players are too elitist, they'd kick every consolegay from their groups. it'd be very dumb of them to do that. i'll go one step further, if someone takes too long to type in chat they'll be assumed to be a consolegay and get kicked.
what is broken in your mind and how would these suggestions fix it?
It's over, moron. They're remaking vanilla to be retail-like in hopes of dragging the remaining userbase over to the next expansions.
>make it f2p
>make dedicated servers for every expansion
you can play private servers
and lost all the progress once the private server gets big? no thank you
Pservers realistically do not close, it has happened so few times that it's statistically irrelevant.
I have played pservers for pretty much a decade and I had only one occurence of it, which was a bad wotlk server that clearly wouldn't have been able to script Ulduar anyway.
I played Nostalrius to lvl 25 to chill with friends a bit but I hadn't touched it for months when it closed and I didn't care about it.
Blizzard literally cannot enforce a C&D unless you host in the USA with a publicly known address
So? It's an MMO, all your "progress" is lost whenever a new patch somes out anyway
There is not a single good private server for this shit game
All xpacks up to MoP included are currently playable and almost retail quality. The remaining flaws that make it a "almost" being completely irrelevant for most players anyway.
The flaws usually just silly scripting shit. In many cases the clients actually run smoother than whatever that distributed, laggy, Legion client Blizzard has running
>make dedicated servers for every expansion
they have already run classic into the ground in a few years. nobody except the <200k people still subbed care to run through old garbage with the same sweaty speedrunner strats that were figured out years ago by other people. having servers for every single installment would be a waste of time and also split the community even more.
>Abort current situation
>Reset the entire universe back down to a grounded level.
>Focus more on interesting objectives that naturally invite players to engage with each other as the goal rather than the loot.
>Allow more community driven 'events' and creating their own fun.
>Stop trying to nanny police everyone's thoughts and opinions.
>No cash shop
>Encourage content that invites veteran players to help and play with new players.
>Keep old content fresh every once in a while with dynamic enemies or rewards.
>Make interacting with the world more in depth that right-click to gather or kill X 10 times.
>Have some story but not slapping you in the face. This is a world, you can follow the pre-made story or go frick off and be mad max or whatever your inner demon wants.
The real reward(s) should be the excitement and fun YOU had. Not chasing some low % item or feeling left behind. Those are just tools for math gays to jerk off over.
Part of the magic of the game is how it tailored to the times. The combat, the graphics, etc. It's all tailored to how we interacted and had for specs to reach the maximum audience in that time frame.
I agree with most of your suggestions, it's a nice fantasy.
They're currently working hard to remove the little of it left in vanilla
Space Satan was in Warcraft before WoW, as were helicopters. It was never grounded
I don't want to carry newbies, never mind that newbies don't exist in 2024 just shitters who have miraculously never learned to press their buttons despite playing for 8 years
>The real reward(s) should be the excitement and fun YOU had. Not chasing some low % item or feeling left behind. Those are just tools for math gays to jerk off over.
Half of your suggestions were about adding concrete rewards to bribe players you moron. Even you know tangible upgrades and prizes are what people actually want
Watch out, we got a pro-gaymer over here!
>can't refute it
I accept your concession
yeah morons like pic related who make up the vocal minority who ruin the game by forcing their food analogy viewpoints down everyones throats make the game not worth playing
add a dating sim system
wow cannot be played on a controller without massively gimping the entire game. Not to mention the game itself relies on addons to even be playable which is a no no for cucksoles. If they could they wouldve ported it years ago
you can play without addons
you just need to not be moronic
you good luck doing anything but low end moron content lol
Sounds like just the content console players are up to
No
Wow as it is wouldn't work with a f2p model
If you want something f2p tell microsoft to just make a new wow game but it's only pvp arenas and battleground
Wow pvp is decent, it would make lots of money and revitalize the IP
just pull the plug, at least on retail
watching metzen parade around on stage and literally beg people to come back made my soul hurt
Put it on Steam.
>I DON'T WANT NEW PLAYERS!!!! moron SHITTER homosexual KYS!!
>w-why is the game dead bros... no one is online 🙁
>make it f2p
I'm amazed there are people out there still willing to pay a subscription for this slop.
you know wow is blizzard activisions biggest earner right? even more than cod? it doesn't need fixing
every single blizzard game combined only made up about ~12% of ABK's total revenue in 2022
>fire 100% of all millenials in the company
>hire some nazis for the writing team
>reboot as wow2
I suspect theres a bunch of people only still playing wow because of all the years of mogs mounts cheevos theyve built up. Rebooting the game as wow two and undoing that will legitimately kill the game.
The game is already made by nazi cia chuds it wouldn't change much by doing that
>wow on consoles
Yeah arena sounds fun with a controller and no add ons
You sonygays should just get a PC
>>port it to mobile, switch, xbox, everything
WoW is a team-based game and 95% of players are actually moronic. Its already bad enough dealing with latin american morons. moronic consolegays ontop of it would make pugging a fricking nightmare without the ability to filter these subhumans out.
>>make it f2p
kys moron, dont need f2p homosexuals and even more bots ruining the game more ontop of the p2w GDKP Black folk
>>make dedicated servers for every expansion
classic has proven nobody cares about legacy shit, they just play new thing and old thing dies immediately
f2p homosexuals already exists moron
I just refunded dragonflight. I think I gave it a fair chance but like 12 hours in it was just absolutely insufferable. The world is really ugly. The plot really boring. The quests insufferable and seeing how endgame is always the same garbage with mythic keys and broing raids I just couldn't justify spending 50 bucks on that preorder in order to get dragonflight. I doubt I'll be coming back for retail. SOD is fairly fun and I don't need to pay extra to play it
>fetch quests bad
>fetch quests: boomer edition are TOTALLY SOVL BROS
A single retail raid boss mogs all of classic, but we both know you're too dogshit for retail raiding
>bro dude this raid boss that .1% of the playerbase ever sees totally mogs classic
Retail being a reverse filter has never been more true. You have brain damage.
Even normal mode raid bosses in retail mog classic, you're just genuinely too dogshit to handle any mechanics
Never mind that a games quality isn't based on what content soccer moms and dads play, it's based on what's there for actual gamers and by that retail obviously shits all over classic
> Even normal mode raid bosses in retail mog classic, you're just genuinely too dogshit to handle any mechanics
I came back for one raid tier and immediately got CE. Your ability to have basic nerve function is not impressive.
Blizzard would turn retail into mount NFTs if they could. They need morons like you to fill the world for their whale gamers.
>A single retail raid boss mogs all of classic
yeah it does. A single dungeon actually mogs any classic raid but thats not the point. You can cry like a little child all you want but the expansion fricking sucks. There were so many issues before that too with people abondoning dungeon runs for no reason. Leveling was absolute slog and a horrible and unfun experience and once I reached 60 and started dragoncringe (I tried shadowcringe before that and it's even worse) it was full of bots farming these dudes. On top of all those trans characters they shove into your face but I was willing to overlook it but god damn it's garbage. Either way I just don't even want to keep playing. I don't want to do those boring mythic keys and the raids are absolutely soulless.
I think that it's a good thing that there are active 2x4 farm groups out in the world. It's one of the last remaining breaths of MMO flavor remaining in this game.
you can try to frame this however you want but it won't change the fact that it sucked, was full of trannies and that wow endgame is soulless pretentious eltisim that feels more like a 2nd job than a game. I wasn't willing to put the time into it. SOD I can just hop on and have fun without being forced to do anything really. It's not perfect and has it's own issues sure but god damn it's so much better product than whatever retail is right now. Seeing how you gays are here defending bots I think I made the right decision not to keep playing.
>Complaining about bots
>playing classic
Pick 1 pablo
Get hung up on it all you want. It's a you problem now. For me your opinion is worth less than shit. You still play this garabage afterall
It's only a second job if you go for the 0.1% titles in your chosen game mode. You can hop into 20 keys, heroic raid, or ~1800 rated PvP with ease on any given night.
>handcrafted raids with truly unique mechanics are soulless
Delusional and coping
Classic leveling is objectively a bigger slog, objectively more bot filled. You're just making up excuses because the game is too hard for you, but you're so shockingly stupid your complaints are more applicable to classic
>muh skill
The game is not supposed to be about skill. Its supposed to be about gear and role playing. homosexuals like you contributed to WoW dying massively.
No, it's about skill, that's why every MMO on the planet but classic WoW has actual challenge
And look, only classic WoW is a gdkpridden hellscape, crazy how that works?
> And look, only classic WoW is a gdkpridden hellscape, crazy how that works?
Meanwhile the entire retail lfg is boosting services
I haven't seen that. Was way worse when i left during BFA
Any achievement that people try to flex on forums can be bought. There is 0 merit to it.
Great have fun being skilled. Nobody else wants to play your high skill ceiling MMO. Your mentality literally pushed normies into playing minecraft over WoW.
Actually they do, which is why retail is more popular than classic
But hey I'm sure everything on SoD that's not a streamer server already dying is fine
If you want to defend normies you belong on
>retail is more popular than classic
Um… sweetie…
lol dude nobody wants to play a high skill ceiling MMO. Its really antithetical to what WoW was. The promise to players was that if you play enough and jump through enough hoops, you can get the gear and you can be a virtual bad ass. Having skill be a big factor means that if you suck you just suck regardless of how much you play or how good your gear is. It directly destroys the motivation to play the game.
This is the most brown skin post I've ever seen
You're so bad at video games that the concept of improving through practice doesn't even cross your mind
Unreal, truly.
I don't want to be good at the game. I want to get gear that makes my character more powerful than yours.
If you want to play a game that is about the skill of the player then it should not be an RPG. Play an FPS game, or rocket league or whatever.
No, I like the wow gameplay dance.
You can't explain this to a wowbuck, they have 30 different strawman level cope layers as for why you're wrong and wow is better than ever.
Ignore that they had to add a f2p game monthly login fomo farm to the game and they have to giveaway rare removed cosmetics as incentive to get artificial viewers for every single one of their ""esports"" events on twitch for the past 3 years now
>how to fix wow
Spin up fresh vanilla servers every 2 years and abandon every other version.
>Bring in every Black person and shitskins
>split the player base every expansion
Wow, great suggestions anon. Consider suicide
The actual way to fix WoW:
>roll everything back to the burning crusade
>it was all a dream
>fire everyone who works there
>get non morons to make next expansion
you would need to hire literally unhireable people (white, cis, right wing men)
liberalism will always lead to goyslop
>how to fix it
hard reboot it and scrap everything that came before it shitty gameplay included
How will it make money?
Surely you're not just a thirdie that can't afford to pay for sub and wants free shit.
I never got the dumb opinion that SoD is retail just because it has retail abilities. Your rotation isn't what makes the game retail
people always get mad because they expect wow when playing retail.
just play retail as a pretty good looking warcraft styled goyslop generic rpg with some multiplayer elements and you can enjoy it.
if you wish to play wow, play classic.
If you play classic you end up with a Chinese gold farming cartel, not WoW
based. china will grow stronger
CHINA IS THE BEST RAHHHHHHH
Didn't WoW shut down in China?
yeah then their chinese partners bought up a lot of their current and former senior staff and are throwing money at them just to make a new mmo in order to spite blizzard
they literally poached their lead combat dev lmao, he up and quit and joined up with the chinks the same day
Officially yes, but that never stopped the gold farmers.
this, gold farmers have nothing to do with chinese wow since chinese wow had its own servers and game client
any changs playing on na were unaffected by the netease thing
Gold farmers play on NA and EU servers so they can sell the gold for real money
VPNs and also Chinese players live in Taiwan
tfw no tauren wife
as long as the lead dev is a washed up raidpig the game will continue to be a raidpig slop trough with busywork for them to do a couple times a week when not oinking and squealing in their shitty unfun raids
all other content besides raiding has devolved into a minigame that gets less development time and focus than raiding even though a majority of retail players prefer 5 mans or pug raiding to 20 man scheduled raiding
Bingo.
This game should be called World of Raidcraft.
Add normal/hard raid tiers to raid finder.
>release the source code for every expansion so people can make better games from the base material
>take all the developers and drop them in the woods 40 miles from the nearest settlement
>create a national fat camp, use conscription to force fatties into shape
>use electroshock therapy to reformat pervert brains
>raise english, math, and science standards, drop all others
yeah, we probably don't