>The planet broke before the Guard did.
As if they had anywhere else to go
They died a senseless, useless death because their own weakness locked their feet in place
200 years have passed since Space Marine, she either dies in battle or old age, unless she got promoted into general or part of some noble family of renown to get the rejuvenation treatments they use
What was the point in destroying Cadia to break the status quo only to have all the default new Guard minis be Cadians? Black Cadians without violet eyes.
So not even Cadians just wearing the uniform and pretending.
They wanted to End Times 40k for copyrightabaility's sake. Then they saw how that worked out for Fantasy and decided to just half-ass it, which was probably the better choice.
>disgusting
Hasn't this been a thing since literally forever? Women can't become SPESS MUHREENS, but there's entire all-female groups in the military and the Imperial Guard has been mixed sex since WH40K was invented, no? Part of the whole 'humanity is in perpetual war so literally everyone has to fight'?
Yea and it’s stupid. All the art and all the books and lore were 99% male until recently.
It’s ridiculous, a woman’s best weapon in the 41st millennium would be her womb.
One woman could churn out dozens of troopers, if she dies without multiple kids it would be a total waste
Throughout the entire history of mankind until 1990’s the military has been male only on the front line. Why do you morons suddenly want to pretend women in the military is a good idea.
Uniform. Uni Form. A single shape. Militaries on the front line have relied on the idea that every soldier of one role has to be virtually identical so they can anticipate each other's strengths and weaknesses. If you look at everything that the Imperium uses in its war machine, they are anything but uniform. Less excuse for monomorphism, more excuse for throwing in everything that's available. When a man is orders of magnitude weaker than a space marine, excluding something that's only a certain percentage weaker than the man does not really make sense. Might as well put terminators to do desk jobs since they aren't quite as powerful as dreadnoughts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Women are powerful, at breeding that’s their best use in imperium
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's dozens of millenia in the future. Why would breeding require a womb? Just take the eggs and send her to die for the Emperor just like you're going to send her children.
>applying our history and logic to a complete fictional universe
Anyone can die for the emperor. you're talking about a empire that will send millions of people into the meatgrinder and will proclaim total complete victory with a 90% casuality rate.
>Throughout the entire history of mankind until 1990’s the military has been male only on the front line
Yeah cool, but we're talking about the 41st millennium.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yea and from at least 2nd until like last year there’s been no female guardsMEN and they still don’t have female bodies
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean up until recently they retconned an entire race out of existence, and they've made multiple changes to the canon - see necrons going away, coming back as vaguely egyptian-themed terminators, then being retooled as tomb kings IN SPACE, etc.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Female guardsmen don’t exist. You’ve just got a couple of heads on male bodies.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Female guardsmen have been canon since at least 2003. They never got models because GW is lazy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Black library is fanfiction, unless it’s on the table top it’s not canon.
There are no female guardsmen
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are laughably stupid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/dzuFG9B.jpg
How to get Imperial Guard gf?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Good god man who gives a shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There are no female guardsmen >imperium throws everybody in the meatgrinder >THERE ARE NO FEMALE GUARDSMEN
Why would this matter at all?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why does that matter, do you think the amount of women in armed forces will increase for every year? Women in fighting roles is an extreme anomaly if we look at our entire existence and is very limited even today.
Note that these aren't even combat roles.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hungary 20%
lel
what happened?
2 years ago
Anonymous
NATO happened.
Please do tell me more a out why I should care about modern realistic military statistics in a science fiction setting where alien robot egyptians and large green football hooligans made of mushrooms exist.
In the 40k universe there are entirely different rules than in the real world. And no it's not a 50/50 split male female ratio in the guardsmen but the few women that are capable enough to hold a gun and fire it will be volunteered to do so.
The Guardsmen are still mostly basic humans with human sensibilities. It's neither effective nor appreciated to have women fight with men unless it's absolutely necessary. Like I mentioned before, having in combat roles large scale without justification just makes for bad world building and you know that it's only like this due to a particular political agenda of the times. Things like Sisters of Battle and female Eldar warriors make sense in the context of the universe, for different reasons, but large scale use of female Guardsmen doesn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon it's fricking science fiction. FICTION. What part of that isn't getting through your thick fricking skull?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, and fiction can be written well or poorly. It being fiction will never be an argument in itself, you Pete Hines tier moron. I even mentioned good examples where women can reasonably justified in the same universe, large scale mobilization of women in the IG simply cannot given the premises.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What gives you the impression that Guardsmen are always using reasonable tactics?
2 years ago
Anonymous
m8 if you give a shit about your fiction being well written then how can you stand any aspect of 40k?
It's all fricking nonsense.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What gives you the impression that Guardsmen are always using reasonable tactics?
Yeah, WH40K is completely moronic in general but it just becomes worse when you know that a particular aspect is stupid just because of modern politics. I could comment on multitude of different stupid things in WH40K, but this was the current topic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon female guardsmen have been a thinf since TWO THOUSAND AND FRICKING THREE.
The reason they did it was because WHO FRICKING CARES.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Have sex you fricking sperg.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>40k >reasonable
fricking lol, the setting where it's acceptable to send millions of soldiers to their deaths so they can retrieve a fancier boltgun is VERY reasonable indeed
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Complains about writing >Says only tabletop is canon
2 years ago
Anonymous
Back to work wagie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
have sex
2 years ago
Anonymous
Please do tell me more a out why I should care about modern realistic military statistics in a science fiction setting where alien robot egyptians and large green football hooligans made of mushrooms exist.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In the 40k universe there are entirely different rules than in the real world. And no it's not a 50/50 split male female ratio in the guardsmen but the few women that are capable enough to hold a gun and fire it will be volunteered to do so.
you mean to tell me that the setting where one army can arty bombard another friendly army for 100 years non-stop due to a clerical error isn't realistic?
Throughout the entire history of mankind until 1990’s the military has been male only on the front line. Why do you morons suddenly want to pretend women in the military is a good idea.
This anon is right, the rest are just a bunch of morons. No one cares that it's been like that for decades or muh lore, mass mobilizing women in any case other than imminent extermination is completely senseless. I can understand if you'd use women for planetary defense when that particular sector is attacked by xenos, but that's not the same having a large portion of the IG be women, especially on the front lines that are not their homeworlds.
The Imperium's problem has never and will never be numbers secondary-san.
>The Imperium's problem has never and will never be numbers secondary-san
Completely moronic argument, you can never have enough people and thus soldiers. Sure many planets are overpopulated, but the best solution obviously isn't to send all the women to die when so many planets are livable by default or earlier terraforming.
For women to make sense as soldiers you need some kind of mystical or technological aspect to the soldier and there needs to be a justification for the fact that women are used. The Sisters of Battle are a reasonable female faction that is both interesting and makes sense in the context of the world as well as in general.
Yea and it’s stupid. All the art and all the books and lore were 99% male until recently.
It’s ridiculous, a woman’s best weapon in the 41st millennium would be her womb.
One woman could churn out dozens of troopers, if she dies without multiple kids it would be a total waste
Throughout the entire history of mankind until 1990’s the military has been male only on the front line. Why do you morons suddenly want to pretend women in the military is a good idea.
Yea and it’s stupid. All the art and all the books and lore were 99% male until recently.
It’s ridiculous, a woman’s best weapon in the 41st millennium would be her womb.
One woman could churn out dozens of troopers, if she dies without multiple kids it would be a total waste
Women are powerful, at breeding that’s their best use in imperium
what is it about grimdark stories and universes that attract complete morons? this isn't even about sexism, it's just moronic to assume that the imperium will restrict women to just breeding when they can always use more guardsmen, factory workers, farmers, etc. Not to mention the fact there is literally an entire faction of women who almost certainly don't get any, it's called the soritarias
Assuming that just because it's le bad future automatically means a bunch of rape and bullshit like this is fricking trite. Same exact problem with lifeweb and fallout
yeah my bad. it's just that I see this bs over and over again in grimdark fanbases and it's dumb as hell
anyways, anyone looking forward to rouge trader? i can't believe it's taken this long for a W40K crpg to come out, unless I've missed one somewhere. think it's looking pretty good so far, probably going to make my first character a guardsmen
This may be unknown to incels but women are WEAK. Even the most untrained manlet will still btfo 95% of all women. They may have some use as snipers but sing them as frontline soldiers is just a liability
You have humans literally shooting lightning out of their ass at chaos demons but the fact that a woman is firing a gun is the part that's unreasonably unrealistic?
How will they ever justify Titus being back in SM2? He was taken in by the Inquisition for suspected corruption by chaos. If they find any evidence, Titus is dead right then and there. If they don't find any evidence, then they don't know the nature of his chaos resistance, and they kill him just in case. The only situation where Titus emerges unscathed is if it's proven beyond a doubt that he was never resistant to the warp in any way, and that's probably out of the question.
>If they don't find any evidence, then they don't know the nature of his chaos resistance, and they kill him just in case.
That's wrong you idiot, chaos resistance, or even immunity, is a thing in setting, its just exceptionally rare
Also corruption isn't by touch, its by allowing the suggestion to turn into action, and Space Marines are mentally trained to curb out the suggestion with righteous zeal
Also also, Space Marines fight Chaos regularly, if we executed every single Space Marine due to that we'd have no Marines left by the turn of the century
Also also also, Leandros isn't a librarian and has no experience on Chaos to determine what corruption is or isn't, thats a Librarian's job, and for all he's preaches about the codex, he sure forgot the part in the codex that states to bring one fourth of theres a suspected chaos influence within the ranks
why doesnt anyone care about monster hunter females clubbing down giant dragons but seethe when they seeing a woman holding a gun in warhammer? Why is it ok for one fictional universe but not for others?
no reason why women should be giving birth in the 41st millenium, gestation is more likely to be done exogenously so that all the pleb drones can be productive/die for the emperor as much as possible. pregnancy is probably only practiced by the upper class kinda like freebirthing and shit like that today.
>cadian regiment
presumably, Cadia
Loyalty and service to the Emperor.
The planet broke before the Guard did.
>half the guard switched sides
>the other half allowed Trazyn to inject them with scarab STDs
The guard was broken beyond repair
>The planet broke before the Guard did.
As if they had anywhere else to go
They died a senseless, useless death because their own weakness locked their feet in place
Take off the hat, Aaron, you baldy homosexual.
>tfw shes long dead by the time SM2 rolls around
feelsbadman
what happened to her?
spess marines have a longer natural lifespan than normal humans
200 years have passed since Space Marine, she either dies in battle or old age, unless she got promoted into general or part of some noble family of renown to get the rejuvenation treatments they use
what if they asspull her into sister of battle?
What was the point in destroying Cadia to break the status quo only to have all the default new Guard minis be Cadians? Black Cadians without violet eyes.
So not even Cadians just wearing the uniform and pretending.
They wanted to End Times 40k for copyrightabaility's sake. Then they saw how that worked out for Fantasy and decided to just half-ass it, which was probably the better choice.
AoS is doing way better than old fantasy though.
Because they overhouled the whole gameplay and default army size to be actually accessable. Fall of Cadia didn't have any changes of that scale
Money
>women in the guard
Disgusting, the best thing a woman could do for the imperium is breed
>disgusting
Hasn't this been a thing since literally forever? Women can't become SPESS MUHREENS, but there's entire all-female groups in the military and the Imperial Guard has been mixed sex since WH40K was invented, no? Part of the whole 'humanity is in perpetual war so literally everyone has to fight'?
Yea and it’s stupid. All the art and all the books and lore were 99% male until recently.
It’s ridiculous, a woman’s best weapon in the 41st millennium would be her womb.
One woman could churn out dozens of troopers, if she dies without multiple kids it would be a total waste
The game is over a decade old.
The Imperium's problem has never and will never be numbers secondary-san.
Throughout the entire history of mankind until 1990’s the military has been male only on the front line. Why do you morons suddenly want to pretend women in the military is a good idea.
Uniform. Uni Form. A single shape. Militaries on the front line have relied on the idea that every soldier of one role has to be virtually identical so they can anticipate each other's strengths and weaknesses. If you look at everything that the Imperium uses in its war machine, they are anything but uniform. Less excuse for monomorphism, more excuse for throwing in everything that's available. When a man is orders of magnitude weaker than a space marine, excluding something that's only a certain percentage weaker than the man does not really make sense. Might as well put terminators to do desk jobs since they aren't quite as powerful as dreadnoughts.
Women are powerful, at breeding that’s their best use in imperium
It's dozens of millenia in the future. Why would breeding require a womb? Just take the eggs and send her to die for the Emperor just like you're going to send her children.
Why did you suddenly change argument?
because it's some casual who doesn't know shit about 40K lore and just wants to seethe about muh wahmans
>applying our history and logic to a complete fictional universe
Anyone can die for the emperor. you're talking about a empire that will send millions of people into the meatgrinder and will proclaim total complete victory with a 90% casuality rate.
>Throughout the entire history of mankind until 1990’s the military has been male only on the front line
Yeah cool, but we're talking about the 41st millennium.
Yea and from at least 2nd until like last year there’s been no female guardsMEN and they still don’t have female bodies
I mean up until recently they retconned an entire race out of existence, and they've made multiple changes to the canon - see necrons going away, coming back as vaguely egyptian-themed terminators, then being retooled as tomb kings IN SPACE, etc.
Female guardsmen don’t exist. You’ve just got a couple of heads on male bodies.
Female guardsmen have been canon since at least 2003. They never got models because GW is lazy.
Black library is fanfiction, unless it’s on the table top it’s not canon.
There are no female guardsmen
You are laughably stupid.
Good god man who gives a shit.
>There are no female guardsmen
>imperium throws everybody in the meatgrinder
>THERE ARE NO FEMALE GUARDSMEN
Why would this matter at all?
Why does that matter, do you think the amount of women in armed forces will increase for every year? Women in fighting roles is an extreme anomaly if we look at our entire existence and is very limited even today.
Note that these aren't even combat roles.
>hungary 20%
lel
what happened?
NATO happened.
The Guardsmen are still mostly basic humans with human sensibilities. It's neither effective nor appreciated to have women fight with men unless it's absolutely necessary. Like I mentioned before, having in combat roles large scale without justification just makes for bad world building and you know that it's only like this due to a particular political agenda of the times. Things like Sisters of Battle and female Eldar warriors make sense in the context of the universe, for different reasons, but large scale use of female Guardsmen doesn't.
Anon it's fricking science fiction. FICTION. What part of that isn't getting through your thick fricking skull?
Yes, and fiction can be written well or poorly. It being fiction will never be an argument in itself, you Pete Hines tier moron. I even mentioned good examples where women can reasonably justified in the same universe, large scale mobilization of women in the IG simply cannot given the premises.
What gives you the impression that Guardsmen are always using reasonable tactics?
m8 if you give a shit about your fiction being well written then how can you stand any aspect of 40k?
It's all fricking nonsense.
Yeah, WH40K is completely moronic in general but it just becomes worse when you know that a particular aspect is stupid just because of modern politics. I could comment on multitude of different stupid things in WH40K, but this was the current topic.
Anon female guardsmen have been a thinf since TWO THOUSAND AND FRICKING THREE.
The reason they did it was because WHO FRICKING CARES.
Have sex you fricking sperg.
>40k
>reasonable
fricking lol, the setting where it's acceptable to send millions of soldiers to their deaths so they can retrieve a fancier boltgun is VERY reasonable indeed
>Complains about writing
>Says only tabletop is canon
Back to work wagie.
have sex
Please do tell me more a out why I should care about modern realistic military statistics in a science fiction setting where alien robot egyptians and large green football hooligans made of mushrooms exist.
In the 40k universe there are entirely different rules than in the real world. And no it's not a 50/50 split male female ratio in the guardsmen but the few women that are capable enough to hold a gun and fire it will be volunteered to do so.
you mean to tell me that the setting where one army can arty bombard another friendly army for 100 years non-stop due to a clerical error isn't realistic?
This anon is right, the rest are just a bunch of morons. No one cares that it's been like that for decades or muh lore, mass mobilizing women in any case other than imminent extermination is completely senseless. I can understand if you'd use women for planetary defense when that particular sector is attacked by xenos, but that's not the same having a large portion of the IG be women, especially on the front lines that are not their homeworlds.
>The Imperium's problem has never and will never be numbers secondary-san
Completely moronic argument, you can never have enough people and thus soldiers. Sure many planets are overpopulated, but the best solution obviously isn't to send all the women to die when so many planets are livable by default or earlier terraforming.
For women to make sense as soldiers you need some kind of mystical or technological aspect to the soldier and there needs to be a justification for the fact that women are used. The Sisters of Battle are a reasonable female faction that is both interesting and makes sense in the context of the world as well as in general.
lol
Good arguments.
samegay
>he doesn’t know how to check samegays
Sad
what is it about grimdark stories and universes that attract complete morons? this isn't even about sexism, it's just moronic to assume that the imperium will restrict women to just breeding when they can always use more guardsmen, factory workers, farmers, etc. Not to mention the fact there is literally an entire faction of women who almost certainly don't get any, it's called the soritarias
Assuming that just because it's le bad future automatically means a bunch of rape and bullshit like this is fricking trite. Same exact problem with lifeweb and fallout
why do you guys let these morons derail these threads. It's always a waste of time. Just let the incels talk to themselves in their shithole.
yeah my bad. it's just that I see this bs over and over again in grimdark fanbases and it's dumb as hell
anyways, anyone looking forward to rouge trader? i can't believe it's taken this long for a W40K crpg to come out, unless I've missed one somewhere. think it's looking pretty good so far, probably going to make my first character a guardsmen
>make my first character a guardsmen
>in Rogue Trader
uhhhhhh
You are moronic beyond salvation. You may still help the world by removing yourself from it, immediately.
This may be unknown to incels but women are WEAK. Even the most untrained manlet will still btfo 95% of all women. They may have some use as snipers but sing them as frontline soldiers is just a liability
You have humans literally shooting lightning out of their ass at chaos demons but the fact that a woman is firing a gun is the part that's unreasonably unrealistic?
It's not unrealistic, it's unfeasible and unnecessary.
Them breeding sows should be breeding.
>Them breeding sows should be breeding.
Perhaps, but they'll do whatever the god emperor wants them to do.
>breeding sows
>have planets with 100 of billions of population
It's absolutely fricking necessary. The Imperium needs bodies for the war effort, you think they care if there's breasts or a puss on those bodies?
someone doesn't know how the average kriegsmen is born tbh.
youre a dumb Black person
Any hopes for the sequel being good?
The reason that Hope was the last evil out of Pandora's Box is because it is the greatest evil of them all.
>Sisters of Battle
>Porn artist
You weeb secondaries don't belong, you need to go back
Rude.
40k belongs to coomers now you have to seethe and accept this.
Now post the one with the commissar
join the imperial army.
How will they ever justify Titus being back in SM2? He was taken in by the Inquisition for suspected corruption by chaos. If they find any evidence, Titus is dead right then and there. If they don't find any evidence, then they don't know the nature of his chaos resistance, and they kill him just in case. The only situation where Titus emerges unscathed is if it's proven beyond a doubt that he was never resistant to the warp in any way, and that's probably out of the question.
>If they don't find any evidence, then they don't know the nature of his chaos resistance, and they kill him just in case.
That's wrong you idiot, chaos resistance, or even immunity, is a thing in setting, its just exceptionally rare
Also corruption isn't by touch, its by allowing the suggestion to turn into action, and Space Marines are mentally trained to curb out the suggestion with righteous zeal
Also also, Space Marines fight Chaos regularly, if we executed every single Space Marine due to that we'd have no Marines left by the turn of the century
Also also also, Leandros isn't a librarian and has no experience on Chaos to determine what corruption is or isn't, thats a Librarian's job, and for all he's preaches about the codex, he sure forgot the part in the codex that states to bring one fourth of theres a suspected chaos influence within the ranks
Brothers, my resolve weakens.
just play sisters of battle
tfw Sisters will never get a game besides Soulstorm
U wot m8?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1733890/Warhammer_40000_Battle_Sister/
>VR
why are there so many warhammer games made in the last few years but 90% of them are shit?
GW trying to cash in on the IP.
•ahem•
Ultramarines are the emperor's finest and everyone else is pure garbage. Praise Guilliman and long live Ultramar.
why doesnt anyone care about monster hunter females clubbing down giant dragons but seethe when they seeing a woman holding a gun in warhammer? Why is it ok for one fictional universe but not for others?
nobody knows and 40k guards are just cannon fodder anyways.
monster hunter fandom for the most part aren't complete spergs
>taking bait seriously
are you new or just moronic?
Different audiences obviously
no reason why women should be giving birth in the 41st millenium, gestation is more likely to be done exogenously so that all the pleb drones can be productive/die for the emperor as much as possible. pregnancy is probably only practiced by the upper class kinda like freebirthing and shit like that today.
In Hives you're right. They even drug water supplies to keep peoples' focus away from fricking.
Can you imagine how shitty society would be if women went back to breeding full time? I'd go into mass shooting mode, it sounds sick