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elves
high elves were the best selling point of TW2
congrats on having the worst take in the thread
moron
dark elves > humans > elves
How's the new patch?
broken
ranged units can now fire through blobs
sigh
Blobs you say?
This would be cool if only High Elves could do it. Maybe Dark Elves too.
>let's just make HElves MORE broken
spot the Helf player
It should be exclusive to skaven, but with friendly fire on
They can fire through blobs if they are a part of that blob, and this is easily countered by things like magic and artillery that skullfrick blobs.
at this point i wonder if ca is actually testing their patches at all. how the frick could they're letting this go?
They have to produce the illusion of work, this is how gigantic bureaucratic corporations work. 40k based their entire imperium off the notion that almost all clerks working in the system do nothing of value. There's even a quote about their millions of scribes recording shit on to parchment that no one will ever read
This was fully intentional it seems, not a bug.
No it's not intentional, and there is no reason to think that.
It's intentional. It's even written in the patch notes.
>it actually is
what the frick were they thinking
Bad players struggle with ranged units that arent archers so this is a QoL for them.
Realistically this changes nothing for everyone other than lord sniping since if you werent moronic you were setting up on a hill so all your gunners could shoot anyway
>To prevent instances where ranged units hold their fire because a friendly unit is in their line of fire, overlapping units are now considered (by the game as) part of the same unit. This should ensure that ranged units can more consistently carry out firing orders.
wtf? pretty sure this is not what they really intended, now every player will just put a giant blob of range units in one place and fire like crazy. ai is to moronic to deal with this. pretty sure this will soon be patched out. everything what is fun or a game brooking mechanic will be patched out by ca soon.
This needs to stay in the game.
Just make it register friendly fire properly.
This needs to stay in the game but have friendly fire on. I should be able to tell my shotgunners to ignore the peasant masses and shoot into them if it means I get to kill demons while doing so. Its ok because I'll just conscript more peasants later.
did range need to be even easier?
Google "Shogun 2: FoTS" and learn the new meaning of the word "DECLINE"
I fricking hate CA and their modern fanbase so much its unreal, they buried the greatest potential for RTS to evolve and for what?!
As much as I love Warhammer Total War, it doesn't hold a candle to Shogun.
>TENNO
>HEIKA
>BANZAI
Guns in S2 are one of the most satisfying experiences I've had in a Total War system. Guns in Warhammer don't even feel like guns.
Probably because the guns in S2 pretty much one shot if they hit from what I remember. So a volley could be devastating as was the artillery. Warhammer units can tank multiple shots until their health gets whittled down and they die off
In fairness, shogun 2 is probably the best TW game we will ever get
My dream game is essentially a visually updated FOTS with the majority of the world playable. So Total War: Victorian Era.
The warhammer games are soulless as hell holy shit
WHAT went so fricking wrong
rome 2 for the most part
plactic crack consoomers were a nail to the coffin
What am I even looking at here, to begin with? This looks fine to me.
Shooting from inside another unit. Makes ranged brain dead to protect since any dogs or whatever you sent to stop them gets stuck fighting the infantry.
ranged units can now fire through melee units if they're touching
so instead of needing careful positioning and formations to get your ranged units to actually shoot the enemy in the middle of battle, just plonk them down right behind your infantry line and fire at will
This is only work with "Expendable" units. This is what I really wanted for Skaven.
Should not be there for all factions/units
Do they even cause friendly fire or do you need a mod for that still
it'll get good at immortal umpires bro
I'd respect them more if they went back and fixed Attila so the performance is acceptable
CA does not acknowledge the existence of Attila, even though it's the best game in the series.
Buy a better pc, third-worlder. I literally play it on a gaming laptop from 2012 and it runs fine on that, so the problem is definitely on your end.
You dumb shit, if you want to play it at a 60fps on max settings you can't do it with a modern PC built yesterday from brand new parts. It is extremely poorly optimized. You play on potato settings with 30fps max.
I can play elden ring without problems on my pc but attila still makes it cry in pain
Scrap it.
Make TWW40k.
WH4
Steiner's Immortal Empires will save it.
Mein Führer... Steiner...
Steiner will come with an army from the Chaos Wastes
Just play the first two games
release IE
>they haven't seen the start positions
kek
I'm reserving full judgment until everyone is revealed
Skarbrand swan diving into the badlands is funny at least
what's wrong with the start positions
>Skarbrand has entered the Badlands bowl
>Ku'gath is in bumfrick nowhere down in the Dragon Isles
>Kairos somehowbgot fricking lost south of Nehekara
>N'kari is in Chrace so he's just a few turns away from Tyrion or Alarielle obliterating him
Why did you list all the good parts instead of lame shit like ass Kislev being right next to each other in just the most generic spot possible? Also Throgg coulda been sent somewhere fun too, like south pole or something.
The only good part is Skarbrand and even then like
said he has to contend with fricking Grimgor. Ku'gath and Kairos are in the ass ends of nowhere and N'kari is instadead.
Poogath is gonna have eventual Chaos dwarf neighbors and I assume that some of the first DLC lords will also be plopped down in the dark lands.
Wouldn't be surprised if Skrag gets moved from near the empire to the dark lands too.
I don't see the problem.
And? None of those sound bad.
Considering the Helves now have to deal with N'kari, Grom, and the Delves at once on a smaller map I don't think they have the advantage you think they will.
>Skarbrand is going to get immediately buckbroken by Grimgor in badlands
>Ku'gath jerking off in the middle of nowhere
>Kairos seems like they just rolled the dice and took the position based off that
>N'kari will immediately be stomped by HE
so basically: the BBEGs of the game will not exist after turn 20 in every game
The BBEGs of the game are Archaon and Be'lakor, not some daemons whose main job is to be killed in fluff blurbs to make other factions seem cool
>Ku'gath jerking off in the middle of nowhere
>every few turns a new hell plague rips across the planet
>you can't do anything about it cause Kugath is spawning them from such a distant spot
Can't wait
Beyond that it's all really arbitrary guesswork. Might as well say that Skarbrand will immediately grind Settra and Repantsu into dust to become unstoppable (he is much closer to them than to Grimgor). We don't know how much CA will buff these guys on the campaign map.
Logically Morathi has no business running a rape train on Ulthuan pretty much every game in current Mortal Empires, but that's what she does.
Wurzag is next to Skarbrand he’s going to get boned by savage orc AR
Doesn’t Wurzag give his army magic attacks at a fairly low level?
Forget Grimgor, the great green buck breaker is going to tenderise Skarbrand
I’m pretty sure it’s a lord trait, since he sucks when Grimgor gets him to confed
His lord effects are the recruitment, charge and upkeep for savage orcs, I think.
His magic damage is a buy in skill
>Logically Morathi has no business running a rape train on Ulthuan pretty much every game in current Mortal Empires
See that's kinda a funny thing, since technically Eltharion (and to a lesser extent Grom) is to blame for that. Originally Yvresse was just free real estate for AI Tyrion to confederate early, giving him the bomus economy that gets boosted by the usual A.I. cheats.
After W&P released not only is Yvresse controlled by another LL, but if you're not playing Eltharion of Grom, Grom also pops up on Ulthuan between Tyrion and Yvresse.
So while Morathi can build her big murderball to slam into Ulthuan, Tyrion can no longer prop himself up fast enough to slap it back, and once Morathi gets a foothold on Ulthuan she bends the Asur over and has her way with them.
>and once Morathi gets a foothold on Ulthuan she bends the Asur over and has her way with them.
MOMMY
FUTA MOMMY
FUTA DRUCHI MOMMY
I SURRENDER
I WILL OBEY
I WILL WORSHIPS
>Futa
Morathi only does that for Alarielle and Hellebron.
>Implying Mommy doesn't secretly anal rape the helf prince's to make Ulthan's political sphere more receptive to Druchii dominion.
Yeah she does
Morathi takes mountains of wiener
She dom rides Tyrion and makes Malekith watch
>and makes Malekith watch
I mean that probably doesn't do much more than annoy him.
I'm not sure it has ever been explicitly stated she pulls the strings, she probably is solely to blame for leading him down the path he is on now but is she really in control?
The thing about Morathi is that for a while her writing was all over the place and would constantly contradict itself. In some cases she worshipped Slaanesh, in others she was devoted only to Khaine, in some she did care deeply for Aenarion and Malekith, in others she only was only using them for her own gain.
I believe the 'concrete' version is that she does love them but also wants to basically turm her family into gods, which is what she manages to do in AoS. Her dealings with Chaos and Slaanesh were purely for the sake of advancing her own goals and her 'worship' of Khaine was only so she could supplant him.
That said Malekith doesn't care that much for Morathi, and mostly just keeps her around because she IS a frick-off powerful sorceress whose machinations help keep the Druchii in line and assist in his attempts to take Ulthuan.
AoS Morathi doesn’t care about anyone but herself. Maly has been holding Slannesh down by himself for untold generations until the prostitute decides to climb inside slannesh to eat the elf souls.
I thought it AoS she basically claimed Khaine's throne by squater's rites, then immediately pulled Malekith up and gave him the entire fricking Shadow realm.
No malerion (maly and his dragon fused) is way above Morathi who is the weakest of the elvish gods and only became a god by eating the souls of most of the pheonix king line in Slanneshes rectum.
Malerion has been entirely consumed with holding back slannesh, with occasional help from Tyrion who’s god of justice and war or something now.
>Age of Shitmar
AoS 2.0 is the best ruleset gw has made since Mordheim. It was basically a worse whfb 3rd
>Age of Shitmar
I like Mordheim.
I wish Rogue Factor had made Mordheim 2 instead of a crappy Necromunda game.
I’d love a mordheim 2 expanded with the fan armies, could even add the new lore shit like Kislev and post dreadfleet pirates.
It doesn't matter if its rules will get better, it's still some bizarro mix of WoW, He-Man and Nordic stuff combined into some uber-high fantasy shit that ends up looking bland and without character with shit lore.
Filtered
I don't play shit like Age of Smegmar. If I wanted Space Marines I simply play 40K.
>aos is shit
>aos in space somehow isn’t
Lol
40K was already science-fantasy for some time before AoS was a thing.
If anything AoS is fantasy 40K with more emphasis on fantasy.
>irrelevant comment with no bearing on the conversation
Ok
Go and suck a Daemonette's dick.
40k and age of sigmar have less in common than 40k and 6th edition fantasy
You’ve never played 3.0. It’s 40k-lite, and has killed almost all interest in playing AoS
>It’s 40k-lite, and has killed almost all interest in playing AoS
I thought that was just AoS in general.
>already have your superpowered space bullshit setting
>kill your slightly more grounded setting, ruin the lore, and release superpowered fantasy bullshit in what is basically space
The problem is that nobody who wants fantasy wants AoS, and nobody that wants 40k wants fantasy. The game's rules are fine, the lore is terrible. I've yet to meet anybody who likes AoS as a setting.
The setting is fine since it’s so big that GWs shit lore can’t actually matter. The rules are fricked currently, when all they needed to do was make shooters cost more and nerf endless spells to make 2.0 literally perfect, every other problem was army specific (gits RNG nonsense, hedonites costing too much, etc).
The setting being too big is in fact the crux of why nobody can care about it. Not to mention every single individual factions is bland and boring, somehow taking a step down from the derivative bullshit given time to fester their own identity that was Fantasy. Now they're just derivative bullshit again.
>The setting being too big is in fact the crux of why nobody can care about it.
You’ve never played tabletop, no one cares about the pre made factions.
>Not to mention every single individual factions is bland and boring, somehow taking a step down from the derivative bullshit given time to fester their own identity that was Fantasy. Now they're just derivative bullshit again.
That’s because you secondary homosexuals b***hed about any change to the fantasy lore, so anything that’s been carried over isn’t allowed to be changed in any meaningful way. Seraphon were rewritten to be order daemons coalescing from stars to fight chaos, but people b***hed and now they’re just basic b***h lizardmen npcs again. The AoS new factions are reasonably inspired Kharadron being hyper capitalists mining clouds to power balloon technology isn’t your standard derivative fiction.
They were basic b***h lizardmen before, because they DIDN'T GIVE THEM ANY NEW MODELS. Dwarfs were hyper capitalists before, with fricking HELICOPTERS, now BALLOONS are what make them non-derivative? How about those sick FYRE SLAYERS, slayers but MORE!
The original AoS launch and damn near everything in it was universally hated by everyone and anyone who tries to claim otherwise is delusional.
Original AoS was a disaster.
>no points for models
>random nonsense rules like longest beard goes first
It also had the backlash of all the people who expected a 9th whfb to get smacked by gold space marines fighting red space marines as the core box.
>have the largest range refresh ever in 8th fantasy
>no one buys any
I wonder why they didn’t make any new models besides the marine recolors.
and now outside of 40k its selling more than any minigame on the market, significantly more than Fantasy ever did. I grew up playing battle lines for that game and it was fricking awful, no wonder it died
>its selling more than any minigame on the market
that's because 40k is the only thing that survived the "don't leave your house" order. every non-GW retailer is trying to offload their just AoS product.
In tabletop terms AoS is doing great, 40kgays are ever asking for some rules to be 'ported' over
too bad setting is worse than anime
Settings doing far better than WHFB ever did
Still doesn't matter to me. If I wanted orange juice, I'd go and drink orange juice instead of orange flavored apple juice.
The lore is dogshit, worse than WoW in fact and is not grounded in anything.
People who wanted to play fantasy wanted Warhammer Fantasy. If something more sci-fi, then 40K. Not something that is closer to 40K and isn't slightly more grounded.
She captured his slowly regenerating iron heart and sifoned power out of it for 1000s of years, until she finally performed a ritual that made her fully usurp him. And in the process aciddebtaly getting 2 kids with Slaanesh
>And in the process aciddebtaly getting 2 kids with Slaanesh
How does that happen accidentally? Did he forget to pull out?
>Slaanesh
>forgetting
>to pull out
>Age of Sigmar
>Aenarion
>daemons of Slaanesh
>Sulapeth
>Malekith
>Tyrion
>Hung tribesmen
What else can we cross off Morathi's to-do list?
any wiener that's crossed her eyeline for the past ~7500 years after Aenarion died
Morathi doesn't have a dick weirdo
Ariel's is bigger.
>tfw no immortal mommy dommy dark elf futa gf
Why even live?
Why is this so funny to me?
>If only you knew how bad things really are
>Morathi what the frick are you poi- holy shit
>Skarbrand
Will most likely ass rape Settra considering that his units are easily countered by Skarbrand
>Kugath
Fair point but it also depends on where otehr LL end up at since his closest LL neighbor is Nakai
>Kairos
True, he's closest to Kroq'gar as well.
>N'kari
Seems fine, auto resolve will probably favor him.
I don't really give a frick where everyone starts, I just want to play my rats and shoot people and simultaneously nuke 15 cities. Lore is for queers. I'm here for the aesthetic. Also I like elf women.
IE wont save this game because it will then just be the entire map and all the factions, but completely broken like the rest of this game
get used to playing WH2 cause they are gonna shit out a barely working IE and then dump this game as fast as they can
You could have saved it by having standards and not buying the same 3 times in a row
Every warhmammer has tried to be different. This has led to only more kvetching as they frick up the standalone campaign each time.
Wait 15 years for Definitive Edition.
IE will be the actual release of the game
>N'kari starts in Chrace
>The pink drag queen is corrupting the outdoor-loving tomboy province
He must be stopped
He is also MAKING THE LIONS GAY!
>making
Not yet. Chrace will resist him to the bitter end.
Wood Elves = Best Elves
Something's wrong with these knees.
That's what legs look like for people who actually workout legs.
No anon, the artist tried to depict what you are describing and did it very poorly.
Something about this art seems off to me.
Hands and jaw
thats a male aint it?
>man knees
troon elves confirmed
knees to pointy, would not bang
>best units and lords in roster aren't even elves
lol, lmao
Hope they unironically plop one of the Vampires into the swamp at the centre of the Badlands. Frick everything, Badlandsbowl!
remember to buy more dlc, this poor indie studio needs more money to fix the game.
Only if they give me a full LL Todbringer.
systematically remove women and minorities from the team
Release IE, shit out every race that could conceivably be in the setting. Release more lords, fold AoS into it, add tyranids, add warcraft, add lord of the rings just give me more things to fight.
Immortal empires the our only hope
I was actually looking forward to this, too bad the game is fricking busted.
What happened to the guys who made TWW2?
That wasn't THIS broken.
It's already saved. The DLC team brought it up to a playable state and now they are prepping for Immortal Empires and the Chaos Champions DLC.
Warhammer Fantasy, but instead of grand strategy, make it an RTS. Yes, yes, Mark of Chaos exists.
Who is the Anya of Warhammer characters?
Release IE already so there's something else to play other than the extremely crappy Chaos Realms campaign and fix bugs.
I've never finished a Total Warhammer campaign.
Many of the later wh2 dlc races/factions actually have reasonable and fun short campaigns. Apparently they will be reworking most of the immortal empire victory conditions with 3.
MAYFLIES
Hey I just downloaded this off of gamepass, who should I play first? I was thinking the rasputin motherfricker or maybe the big fat green dude.
>rasputin motherfricker
No lol, don't even think about it
>big fat green dude
Also no, but it's less due to difficulty and more due to him being good in a very specific very boring and somewhat unintuitive way.
Play Katarin or Meow.
Imagine the coom kino mods
>Morathi
>Katarin
>Repanse
>Fey Enchantress
>Alarielle
>Sister of Twilight
>Valkia
>Neferata
>Khalida
Repanse belongs on Skabrand's trophy case.
I'd say it's a race of who gets to her first.
She is pretty much smackdab in the middle of the world. Maybe she is the main prize?
Repanse is gonna get spanked.
>N’kari, Skarbrand and Ku’gath race to decide if Repanse is featuring in mind break, guro or fat ugly bastard hentai
What stake does Kairos have in this, though?
>N'kari
>not corruption
Kairos would be mindbreak
>want to play Settra for first big 8 man IE campaign my friends and I plan to run
>fully aware Skarbrand will probably shove me into a locker by turn 30
They're gonna buff TKs so they don't immediately get fricked, right guys? Guys?
Aren't they already OP? My buddy plays the kangs and steamrolls most of the time.
Once they get off the ground they're deadly, but they're hideously vulnerable at the start due to shit units and not having multiple lords for spam armies
Fair. My friend has trouble early game, iirc. I hope your friends will support you, early game. I help out mine. 4000 rats tire out just about any enemy.
They're very inflexible and capped mostly by time (with numerous little tricks to circumvent the limitations somewhat, but only somewhat).
Before you get off the ground as TK you're just awful and you always have to persevere through that nightmare zone before you get to the constructs and research some army techs, no way to skip it. Factions that have proper killy infantry early will make your life very painful - savage orcs and lizardmanii are great examples.
Kill the main team.
The DLC team is already saving it, it'll take time though.
the Great Plan does not encompass coomers
purge them
Great plan? Da only Great is da Great Maw.
>the great maw is akshually just gork or mork
the people who wrote end times should be thrown in an infinite hole full of sick.
This is the worst change, especially since the other groups of Grimgors waagh kept their gods as gorks/morks pets and friends.
>This is the worst change
is it really? no question its bad, but the worst?
Everything else comes from a hackeyed attempt to make it easier go after recasters and proxy makers, so it’s understandable even if despicable. But randomly ruining something for no reason is moronic, at least Kragnos shows they’ll allow other destruction gods so maybe maw comes back, the tribes eat a maw into every realm they enter so they could Numidian one out of nowhere.
>This is the worst change
No, there a worse things by a significant margin.
>Settrah will be surrounded by enemies who do fire damage in Immortal Empires
Skarbrand, Volkmar and Kairos, what the FRICK was there problem?
>SETTRA, THE IMPERISH-ACK
Plot twist: Settra has moved to Lustria
Tomb Kings > bald c**ts > daemons
>Fire damage
>Tomb Kings caring in the fricking slightest about fire damage.
Tomb Kings are not undead, they don't care about the regen. Only Lords and a couple of TK spells are regen, but that's not what should be concerning for a Settra run. It's the free doomstacks Skarbrand can shit out. Settra's warkitten won't be able to hard carry forever.
>tomb Kings caring in the fricking slightest about fire damage.
The heros/lords like what, take 25% more fire damage?
They fricking care about fire damage. Nothing to do with Regen.
Oh yeah shipping lanes. Those should change how the game plays quite a bit.
Release the fricking mod tools.
Download the lewd corruption mods.
i will. After immortal empires is out.
>play WH3 before IE is out
I'm good, thanks
Only if there's a reverse-corruption one for Morathi.
How could she be corrupted if it's the high elves that are corrupted?
>I can fix her
Are they all going to be sexual in nature?
>play WH3 IE
>every turn takes 40 minutes to rotate through all the factions
heh no thanks
Turns are fast in WH2, they'll be fine even with WH3 added
I half expect that the team in charge of WH3 used code from first one and now they have to redo all the optimization.
>This is canon in End Times
>End TImes
>canon
How does this picture make you feel?
sheer lunacy
Sounds about right.
Like smashing rats for The Great Plan
Ikit being based as frick doesn't make the end times good overall
Honestly I preferred it when all I knew about the End Times was the rats blew up the moon for a lark.
Actually learning about the End Times and what happened with Storm of Chaos gave me an aneurysm
>Not wanting to learn about Arkhan's murder spree
I don't think any other LL has more lore-affirmed kills of other LLs than him after the Nagash summoning.
Yeah but thats not as fun as Grimgor kicking Archaeon in the nuts while on tour.
Rats maybe idk
How long until Aenerion gets modded in to make the Daemon factions shit themselves in terror?
while we have gotten "dead" historical LLs, I think Aenarion and Caledor are too important to the background lore to actually be allowed to be wandering around.
The only good part about AoS is Malekith's ascension to the Phoenix throne.
That’s end times, AoS Malekith is comparable to chaos gods now so he’s a lot better off.
Oh right right my mistake.
>Armor does melt off and get healed from the wounds he had previously
>Stuck in a stinky suit of armor as a another metal face weirdo like Gelt
>How to save this trainwreck?
Release ME, so i can finally play the actual GAME.
I'm curious where Grimbrindal's going to end up.
I hope he moves up to Naggarond to settle his grudge, but I can see him moving to the mountains of mourn as a foil for the Chaos manlets
I'm assuming Thorek might go into the dark lands somewhere as a foil for the Chaos dawi.
Nkari is going to get absolutely destroyed every game in Ulthuan by turn 10 and he will enjoy every second of it.
If they give him friends in Morathi and Cholesterol he might do alright.
Ulthuan is fricking tiny now so Morathi will get there faster, at least now Grom will have a fighting fricking chance since the Helf attention might get slightly divided by the multiple threats.
They said they are going to rework Slaanesh.
How will they rework Slaanesh?
A fricking heal would be a good start.
LITERALLY just need to give cultists replenishment instead of training.
For all chaos factions
I actually don't like this. Too basic.
I would say something like allow transfers of units FROM disciple armies but not TO disciple armies, and significantly lower recruitment time/cost in areas with high slanny corruption.
Slanny trannies should have followers constantly begging to join, more loreful and makes it a little more unique in how they get their troops back.
Maybe some kind of stealth stuff? More things to do with captives? Special interactions with Morathi?
What's the current issues. I enjoyed their units but that was only as Chaos united.
There is none, Daemonettes are good, exalted daemonettes are best infantry in game even viable on meme difficulty.
Going fast is always good.
Well then, vroom vroom
They already did. You can now vassalize playable factions and the AI cannot declare war on your vassals and has to do so at you directly instead.
They did? Proofs.
That's it. They did that with patch 1.2. There's nothing else for Slaanesh.
But is the vassal war like for all Factions now or just Slaanesh?
All factions. Which benefits Nakai the most.
>Heal and restore units on frick
Based
Slaanesh worshippers are biggest pain revelers there is. They should get healed instead of damaged when they endure pain and suffering.
Should get damage boost between 50-20% HP or something like that.
>too busy enjoying battle to be good at it
Makes sense to me. They should get a damage buff that falls off into a debuff as they stay in combat. Also they should have more topless units.
Nah like anon said make Saanesh have a horde of Gankerirgins as fodder troops that exist to take punishment with high cost, single or few entity, units that are fricking busted if only they were not ruinously expensive and all universally have poor morale that needs to be managed with map buffs and legendary lords in the field. The quality troops are best in class of their role, sans tankieness, killyness and magic.
Also, yes topless units but also greek gods(topless), creepy androgynes(topless) and horrendous flesh amalgams(topless)
They gave lords replenishment buffs. And earlier they made so that you can seduce main faction leaders. Not just NPC factions.
So, when will all the Skaven minor clans get added?
stop talking about Age of Sigmar
End Times never happened
Silence, Bretonnian.
>Snorri meets Malekith, the man whose betrayal made him come back to life out of sheer rage
>Malekith fully admits he'd do it all again
>doesn't get immediately GRUDGED
The frick were they thinking?
That Malekith was wronged and The War of the Beard was actually Caledor's fault.
Go to bed, Malekith
You're not my mom, I know because she's sucking my dick.
Mally, everyone knows you're not doing shit with a crisped sausage
ET is not canon
The Khorne DLC lord will be Angron.
He decide to take a vacation from the rest of the galaxy?
Khorne decided to give him something fun and refreshing to do.
>Horus
>Abaddon
Hell no. Keep to mono-god Primarchs. They at least fit better.
>TKs have an event to resurrect Nagash
>go through all the trouble of getting his books, bringing it to the black pyramid
>pyramid opens up
>It's Trazyn with a bunch of TK artifacts spilling out of his arms
>TKs have an event to resurrect Nagash
You mean Arkhan? Tomb kings otherwise would never revive Nagash. They hate him.
Undivided DLC should be Horus and Abaddon as FLC.
harry the hammer would mog them all into oblivion
we will get Champions of Chaos first with Valkia for Khorne
>Valkia corruption mod
Not sure if want
Volkmar vs Von Horstmann round two fricking when?!
Why do these gods always have different designs? Especially khorne
Those are well knows servants of the gods.
There are no canon designs of the gods, only artist interpretations. Also, as the other anon said, those are just prominent champions.
>Festus for Nurgle
Why in the frick would you think they would do that? He is literally Ku'gath lite, they literally have the same approach of being an "alchemist".
It should be some kind of an actual combat focused character like Gutrot Spume, Tamurkhan or hell the Glottkin if they bother putting in some effort.
Glottkin banner was datamined
Really? Anything more?
I would genuinely be surprised if they go for them, considering they are literally 3 characters in one. Can't imagine how they would approach implementing them.
The Glottkin are three characters that conveniently take the form of one giant monster with two guys permanently riding on its back, which makes them a doddle to implement as a single entity in-game. They're basically the Sisters of Twilight except their mount is technically a third character.
It's basically just one big model with two dudes on top. Like the Sisters
Tamurkhan would be the obvious choice, I've seen people suggesting he'd be part of a lord pack with Elspeth von Draken which would make sense.
Gutrot Spume would be cool although I'm worried they'd just make him a Chaos Warrior/Nurgle faction with Norsca mechanics and call it a day.
Can't wait to play another Morathi campaign.
Harry the Hammer? SLY MARBO!
bit gay, lad
Markus. Wulfhart
Game is just early access until Mortal Empires
>Revert the magic system.
>Shitty new settlement battles only happen for fortified settlements
>Immortal Empire should have been at launch even if it meant a game delay (and more bug fixes)
Any advices playing Bretonnia? First time and getting my ass beat.
Yes, stop playing bretonnia. Try Tretch Craventail, yes-yes Tretch is strong.
Don't play Brettonia.
Who you playing?
As a general battle advice learn what each knight is for. They're not just an upgrade line, each fills a niche (errant do become useless fast tho). Also make peasantarchermanii. Simple guide to horse units:
>errant - chaff killers, surprisingly good
>of the realm - bread and butter anti-large
>questing - they do what midline AP infantry (think longbeards or longswords) does for normal factions except they're on a horse
>grail knights - super sayan version of the knights of the realm, magic attack can be super important
>grail guardians - super sayan version of the questing knights, magic attack once again (but WAY less AP, these are tanks to the damage dealers of Questing knights)
>pegasus/hippo - they fly lmao
>non-knight riding horses - Do you take me for a churl? the horse archers I use sometimes because I like horse archers as a concept, but they're probably not even close to optimal
>infantry that's not bowman - NO! unless you're enchantress, she kinda makes pilgrims work
Economically always go for the farm eco, it's the easiest in the game, no difficult decisions involved at any point, just maek farm everywhere and get endless money.
Not helf or delf levels of endless money unfortunately, but at least it's easy.
You don't have supply lines and so you can use a lot of Lords as reinforcements without having to worry about money as much.
Louen. Thanks anon.
Bretonnia is big on 2 things
>lords/heroes
Louen is an absolute beast, regular Bretonnian lords are absolute beasts, grail paladins are absolute beasts, and damsels healbawd for all of these chads. Prophetesses are shit unless you need a caster and can't recruit damsels, just take your dude with a sword and go mog the enemy lord
>cavalry
Hammer and anvil is the bread and butter of Bretonnia, just like Medieval 2 except your khomies can only dream of being general's bodyguard. The more advanced strategy of Bretonnia is hammer and hammer. Getting gud at Bretonnia is getting gud at microing your cav.
Peasants are OK. Trebuchets and bowmen are good and easy to defend as you should have 100% flank control. Peasant melee is shit, they try (and fail) to hold the line for your cav to charge the enemy until you can replace them with more cav for double the charging
non-stop rought lesbo sex fight between katarina and miao streamed throughout the game
Shouldn't you be on your way to Ulthuan, N'kari?
Add some elves and I'm in.
Miao is for Imrik only
Thanquol is the only one who can save TW:WH III now.
The B-team will fix it! In a year or two.
It's already in a playable state as it should've been on start.
Yeah no. They said it to shut up people. Warhammer TOW aims to polish what was already established and expand that which had little stuff in lore and tabletop. So when the time comes we will get Ind, Khuresh and Nippon.
IE
Literally watch its playercount jump to 100k
Waiting for combined map... that will fix everything right? right?
No, but if they don't frick it up it should at least make the game fun and worth playing again.
>it should at least make the game fun and worth playing again.
Skarbrand turning the Badlands into a Royal Rumble and N'kari's quest to collect all the Legendary Ladies asses will at least keep some attention.
I'm mostly worried about them fricking up the campaign in some major way, like how Chaos Realms is shit and boring by fundamental design, or perhaps them making the game run even worse than it already does. For instance they've said some shit about adding "end-game events" into IE so the late-game is more challenging. This could easily turn the whole game into putrid diarrhea like Chaos Realms. CA are extremely lazy and occasionally highly incompetent, if they implement these "events" the way they implement "events" usually, as in literally spawning armies in your territory out of thin air, they could easily nuke the whole campaign with their utter moronation, like they nuked Chaos Realms.
Then again any competent late-game event would require more effort and time than I expect CA to be capable of giving, so I could certainly see them dumping some sub-par garbage into the game that completely ruins IE.
The end game event (Chaos invasions) of Mortal Empires already come with built in customization where you can turn it off completely and set it's intensity and stuff.
Which was added late as frick, years after the initial release I'm pretty sure. Until then you had the invasion spawning in the ocean, like 2 turns away from some factions' heartland areas with no option to configure it or game mechanics to manage it in the campaign itself. And they're calling IE a "beta" to cover their asses, so you can imagine the level of polish you should expect, given how CA routinely releases bugged and broken shit as DLC they expect you to pay for, not as a free update.
Chaos invasions were usually a pretty non-event anon.
>they are calling IE a "beta"
Yes because it will be an unpolished beta, guaranteed. You will have to opt in at first.
>Chaos invasions were usually a pretty non-event anon.
Depends on the faction. Anything in southern Lustria got shitloads of stacks coming straight into your back line, far away from where your front would be at that point in the game, which means you either have to waste armies sitting in settlements or waste economy by spamming walls everywhere even though no actual enemy faction would ever reach those cities.
>You will have to opt in at first.
No you won't, they already said they're calling it a beta but they'll put it in the main branch of the game.
Only thing that have a chance to salvage this trainwreck is immortal empires
That seems to be the recurring sentiment in the thread.
>Alarielle
>Morathi
>Miao
>Katarin
>Repanse
>Naestra
>Arahan
>Khalida
>Isabella
>Aranessa
>Cylostra
>Morgiana
You can pick one and only one.
I would pick Isabella if her character wasn't so intertwined with Vlad, but since it is it would make it feel wrong and me like a cuck.
Aranessa be cute though
Repanse
I choice my queen, Dreadfu.
Built for Asur Archmage Dick
Built for queek
Queer Headgiver.
Queen Hymentaker.
His actual name, not your fanfic one, implies otherwise.
but yeah, for dreadfu he is willing to go down, but only for here
Queek is a Volcel, it’s the reason he’s the only skaven of any prowess or loyalty. Goals not holes.
>goals not holes
Hole is tiny-small.
I can’t figure out if Ska is the luckiest or Unluckiest skaven. On the one hand he’s got the only master that wouldn’t sacrifice him for lols, but he’s also perpetually stuck working for the most autistic character in a setting teeming with autistics.
The luckiest. He is actually content where he is, strong enough to fend off assassins and stand up to fricking Gorfang Ironhide, and his boss won't kill him for shits and giggles. There is literally no better skaven life than Ska's.
>Gorfang Ironhide
Gorfang Rotgut I mean. God damn Grimgor stealing the spotlight from the actual biggest Orc warband in the Badlands.
I don't know, Ikit Claw has it pretty good. He's centuries old, has all the resources for his random stupid experiments he could ever want, more warpstone than he can physically exhaust, and is seen as valuable by his council member.
When I got into Warhammer I would have no fricking clue that Fantasy would have an honest to God evil genius ratman with an arsenal of nuclear warheads.
Ikit is based as frick.
>Can nuke every city you own in one turn
>Deploys cluster munitions for fun
>Flamethrowers
>Cocaine-fueled, direct-fire artillery
>White Feather tier snipers
>Miniguns
>Motorcycle gangs
>Mustard/Sarin gas
>Will MOAB your troops because it looks neat
>Uses slave labor
He's basically the US military and I don't know why anyone else plays other characters.
Luckiest, imo. Queek and Ska are probably the only Skaven in existence that don't have to worry about getting stabbed in the back.
Oh there will be some different kind of backstabbing if you know what I mean.
IM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WARPSTONE TO MAKE THE RATS GAY
UNGGH UNGHH UNGH ITS GREAT
Queek and Ska are as autistic as each other. Queek has a genuine emotional attachment to Ska and will legitimately forgive him for mistakes, while Ska is basically the only rat in all Skavendom that isn't looking for an opportunity to backstab his master (though he isn't that bright and does sometimes get duped into working against Queek's interests by cunning rivals).
The only way a Skaven would ever touch a Dreadlord is as a flayed fur rug under her feet.
>passing things off as fanfic while, without a shred of irony, thinking a Skaven would touch another species with anything but a weapon
Are you 'aving a fricking giggle, m8?
>Are you 'aving a fricking giggle, m8?
Yes, queek + dreadfu literally comes as a joke from the trailer where queek stabs her and kills her
There’s a book where he buys a slave elf to larp as a council of 13 member with pointless wealth.
Imagine being an elf forced to roleplay as a council of thirteen member so the psychopathic rat doesn't cut your head off
If I’m not mistaken she was to pretend she was his yesman while he pretended to be a gray seer.
choosing anything but Repanse means you WILL canonically be cucked
But if you pick Naestra or Arahan you get two for one.
Three whenever Ariel comes to visit.
You can't save it. There is just nothing interesting in it. Unless you really like playing Chaos gods. But even for that there are mods for WH2 where you can play factions based on one Chaos God. So meh. No point in buying Warhammer 3. There is just nothing there.
Make it work properly. I can understand technical problems with a game of this scale, but why the frick can't they make a fun campaign? It's like they don't know how to make Total War fun.
>How to save this trainwreck?
Literally just wait for patch 2.0 lmao. Why do people act like Im/Mortal Empire wasn't the main selling point of these games
Vortex wasn't as bad as Chaos Realms, but people really fricking hated the "farm shit, then wait to lightning strike 20 armies" shit too.
Don't frick up immortal empires. That's it.
>beat ogre campaign
>it's the most fun I've had in a Warhammer total war game
>Full of moronic moments like clutching the final battle with a downhill charge from an ironblaster into an enemy formation
>haven't touched since
Are they still doing that shit where they're ruining units in SP because some sweaty chink is too good with them in MP?
The latest update ruined mp for singleplayer changes so I’m going to say it’s a strong maybe.
Once high elf players start getting shrekt by khorne and slannesh they’ll nerf the only viable melee infantry into the dirt.
i hate this so much, i wish SP and MP balance was separate in ALL games
SP could be balanced for fun and MP could be balanced for whatever the FRICK those homosexuals do all day
It’s especially confusing since MP has the cost per unit set up which would theoretically be able to balance anything while keeping strong units strong.
Small family company pls understand (largest in uk)
I don't understand whats so hard about keeping fun (SP) and tryhard shit (MP) separate.
fricking CA man
This was one of the only games I was looking forward to.
>Only has two of his three arms bound
>Bare handed pun hes against his armored chest
Those tears are of laughter, he's about to do very nasty things to those girls.
Immortal empires, literally. They have pretty much given up on the fiasco campaign from WH3 now and will focus on IE for the rest of the game.
>Nippon never ever
>Ind probably never ever
>Araby never ever
>Khuresh never ever
Feels bad.
Depends how well IE will be received. They have a potential goldmine if they don't frick it up.
Nippon is literally off the map and they've publicly stated that Araby isn't going to be done. I can see them doing Ind though, it's as vacant as pre- TWW Cathay and not particularly overtly stereotypical. After all, we can only stereotype germans and brits and the french, frail cultures like the Japanese and the fricking Arabs could never survive a lampooning.
They should go full Bollywood with Ind
The Empire isn't really a German stereotype at all
nor is Bretonnia really a French/British stereotype
The Empire is literally the HRE but worse, with every city named -dorf -berg -heim. It's hideously corrupt, ruled over by insane aristocrats and incompatible sub-nations. It's so bad that Sylvanian peasants crave the rule of literal actual vampires over Stirlanders.
so a parody of an extinct nation, not modern Germany
Well yeah. Brettonia isn't modern France either. Albion is pre-roman Brits. Lizardmen are Inca-aztec-mayans.
>CA choosing to not make more money
>GW choosing to not make more money
Araby has the problem of pissing off the religion of peace, but whfrp has been rewriting araby to be much more Arabian nights style pre-Islamic mythology.
I doubt mudslimes give a frick either as long as you don't reference their death cult. It's just loud tumblrinas screeching.
Araby used to worship a Tzeentch demon named Allah. The ragheads would freak the frick out if it was found out.
That's almost as hilarious as Nipponese lords being named after Japanese car brands.
To be fair Japanese companies were named after old nobles.
Mitsubishi I think was founded by a samurai who saw which way the wind was blowing and quit sword fighting to make wheels.
Chivalry II had its "I Can't Believe It's not the Crusades" update a couple weeks back and I haven't seen a single soul complaining about it.
Has Chivalry 2 been courting sjw morons for the past few years? Because GW has.
Do you play tabletop?
If so, post your current projects
I have some crapily painted 40k models that I hope to use within the next few weeks.
I have a match in a week and part of my army isn't even glued to the bases lol
The very first time I was in a GW this guy made 6 blocks of orc arrer boyz out of left over sprues. A month later he had them painted up like orcs to get around a 3 paint rule.
HAVE SEX
Okay, let me have Morathi for a night.
A single night with Morathi is not enough.
She has a lot of knowledge. I bet she could milk you dry in many ways.
>Morathi will never perform the rusty trombone on you
Why even live?
So I'll get her for several then? Good deal, thanks Slaanesh.
If Warhammer III wraps up without Slambo and Harry the Hammer being added for Warriors of Chaos I'm going to flip.
Slambo is in the Malal limbo no? I thought the original creator has partial ownership.
GW released a new Slambo model a few years back (pictured in the previous post) so presumably there's no rights issues there.
Who could possibly voice them
we won't even get Nippon
>no Kitsune monstrous infantry able to turn into fast invisible foxes
>no non-Chaos aligned Oni daemons
>no ninjas
>no copy pasted units from Shogun
>no giant Kappas
Shame.
>1 off
lol, lmao
Maybe next time Satan.
Oni are horned ogres in warhammer.
But yea a hypothetical Nippon has all of that, Kirin mounts, and skaven weapon team weapons in a meiji ripoff.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>look up what info the wiki has on WHFB nippon
>all characters are named after car brands
lmao
Add archaon now and give him a proper faction
WoC rework announced, probably released with IE to catch returning gays.
Whatever, I just need someone to port over Apollos Empire models so I can have my 37 hour heavily modded Stirland Campaign.
Those vampire c**ts are gonna be sorry.
I like the idea of some units being able to shoot touching masses as an ability like some kind of psuedo-strider since this sort of thing can be easily punished with magic/artillery. Perhaps have it strictly limited between certain units like only empire spearmen and handgunners for pikeshot tactics.
What do you mean? Game's only real issues are, meager content, which was exactly what WH2 and WH1 had on release, and lack of immortal empires which is mainly an issue because the primary campaign isn't very enjoyable. I always hated Vortex so thats not surprising to me in the least.
The game will honestly be 90% fixed as soon as immortal empires is working and the other 10% with some DLC to round out the rosters.
>AI wont be able to use sea lanes in Immortal Empires
>yet the AI in Empire Total War was perfectly capable of using it
Why is CA so fricking incompetent? They're lucky as hell they're the only ones making games in this god forsaken genre
I know it's pretty low priority compared to other things, but I hope they expand custom warlords to each race. The custom demon prince stuff was a blast.
When the mod tools are finally released someone will probably hack something together for other factions.
Just wait for immortal empires you brainlet. Play the campaign as Skarbrand for maximum fun though.
Thanquol will save it
wait, I guess? It usually takes a couple of years for total war games to become good.
I loved Shogun 2 and 3 kingdoms out the gate.
3 kingdoms was trash, so I guess your opinions are trash.
>My opinions are better than your opinions
It's okay to have fun. No need to trash the opinions of others when yours are equally as lofty lol.
Objectively shit.
>homosexuals defending Age of Shitmar
>finally get the Great Plan and the Old Ones Crusading against Chaos
>too much of a contrarian homosexual to enjoy it
The AoS lore for Lizards is fricking great, only thing they're missing is some updated/new models
Lizards only have 3 kits that actually need an update, std and beastgays are way worse off.
Sega must die
They will once their shitty FPS they spent 800 MILLION DOLLARS ON flops
Hyenas flopping will be wonderous.
You won't be laughing when CA go out of business.
>You won't be laughing when CA go out of business.
>How to save this trainwreck?
By making Imrik x Miao Ying canon.
They already said that Cathay considers other dragons to be malformed shitters.
>watching WH3 monsters fight each other
>ends up being better display for the game's bugs than the fights themselves
what the frick CA
I got bored of the WH3 monsters fast. N'kari beatinf Skarbrand was the most interesting thing I found.
the big map will save it
it did it for 2