>another melee job with no real identity or niche
ironically this is exactly what makes viper a class people want. the one thing this game was really missing from the list of standard rpg classes was just stock warrior dps man. I've seen a lot of people complain that they played rogue and then got a little peeved that instead of dual wielding you mostly do ninja magic because they aren't final fantasy oldgays that know ninja was mostly about casting spells and doing weird supporting stuff aka how it plays in this game
>another melee job with no real identity or niche
Viper actually does fill a niche, though. A lot of people want to play a rogue without any of the ninja magic shit. We're going to see the same thing in the expansion after Dawntrail when they finally introduce a bow-wielding class that isn't tied to bard's goofy minstrel aesthetic.
I mean, Viper IS a hunting job. Ironically it's I think the only Job-Job that even has a basis in hunting, as even something like Bard is the aforementioned minstrel output that de-emphasized the Archer origins, unless you consider Dragoons as strictly intended for dragon hunting.
I also thought crossbows seemed like an obvious pick. Maybe that plus a more "low-tech gadget" sort of vibe (traps, poisons, etc.), similar to the artificer/tempest archer classes from dragon age
>Can be a rogue >Can be a pirate >Can be an armored swordsman >Can just be a duelist too
I'm glad they added this, as much as I like a lot of the jobs in XIV, some of the animations are way too themed, but I get that outside of dragoon it's really hard to make something like MCH or BRD look like their respective inspirations without making them look completely generic.
If the Ancients wanted to keep being not sundered they should have gotten gud and had their almighty god smite Venat, simple as, They lost so they were wrong.
Viper is okay, I'll try it out.
Pictomancer doesn't appeal to me at all, but I don't hate its existence. It's just one of those jobs I'm fine with existing, but don't plan to play myself.
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wow won
Viper seems super bland. Pictomancer looks fine, but I don't like playing casters. Honestly I'm most excited to see how they'll frick AST up this time around.
Why are they even changing DRG? It is the most stable DPS there is. You literally do 1234 rinse repeat on an endless loop. There is nothing to manage as they made the gauge a passive. Maybe have to keep an eye out for gaze stacking up with burst but that is it.
Very very interested in Viper after it was caught that the twinblade thing is not a "spender stance" because it doesn't have any buff particles flying about when it's done
Pictomancer seems neat but little or nothing about how it plays was gleaned from it (this is par for reveal trailers, really) so I'll refrain from judgment on it
Pictomancer, draws to use magic
Seen copying Blizzard IV, Stone IV, Thunder and Fire, summons a moogle to shoot a laser beam from one of the Mog bosses and "paints a landscape," Yoshida says it'll revolve around very long casts and instant casts
>If it has "very long casts" it may end up with the single biggest damage button in the game >single biggest damage button in the game
How we coping BLMbros ?
God I hope not. I so fricking tired of them giving every job a big 1k+ potency attack. It makes your dps so rng reliant. You can play way better than someone else, but if they crit their big attack and you don't it literally doesn't matter and they'll out dps you anyway.
I would have fricking knelt if Mystic Knight was the caster but Pictomancer looks much neater than I thought I would. Gotta be honest I completely shitcanned any thought of Pictomancer because Relm is supremely boring in FF6.
The final days aspect of EW was rushed in at the last second. The original plans were for a Garlean expansion. So they didn't have time to actually pace out the full events leading up to the Sundering or to make a proper cutscene for the battle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark.
The final days/elpis stuff is way more fleshed out than anything with garlemald. Them scrapping all the garlemald legion shit with Bozja and Werlyt made it clear EW wasn't going to be a Garlean expansion for a long time
>The original plans were for a Garlean expansion.
Honestly given how badly they handled Garlemald in the story, maybe it's better they skipped it. >noooo you have to feel sorry for these mass-murdering psychos who spent the last four expansions trying to slaughter everyone else in the world
That's only been happening during the last 30 years or so, Garleans were oppressed for hundreds if not thousands of years before that, something people love to ignore.
Garlean expansion would have been feasible if doma and ala mhigo hadn't been crammed into a single expansion with almost zero difference in how they were handled narratively
>Elidibus reaching out and grasping Amano's WoL from behind was a metaphorical cutscene
No it wasn't, the Amano WoL was an early Azem reincarnation from whom he got the idea when he sniffed the salvation-scented faith being directed toward him. He comments on him still fighting for the world even after being sundered.
Yeah the featureless black void wasn't metaphorical, uh huh
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's because his memory is fricked. He only remembers bits and pieces.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Quit being stupid just to disagree with me
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry you couldn't understand the thing that was explained to you in plain English.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry I have to read your posts and be wrongly corrected on which of two metaphors is actually a metaphor while I'm snowed in on a Friday night
5 months ago
Anonymous
There's no metaphor, the scene actually happened, it's just that the details were forgotten.
5 months ago
Anonymous
it just happened except nothing in it actually happened because the narrator is a lunatic
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's really surprising that you somehow can't differentiate between "I can't remember exactly how it happened because my implanted memories are being overwritten" and "I made it up".
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's really surprising you keep beating the dead horse when even far more dedicated shitposters have gotten bored of their own topic by now
Because they didn't want to animate all the way from the start of the Final Days to the Sundering.
You know the Sundering didn't happen instantly, right? At least two sacrifices took place, with probably plenty of time between those sacrifices as well in order to discuss the specifics and get people together.
man hermes really messed up >birb stubs a toe >OMINOUS LATIN >someone didn't pay their taxes on time >OMINOUS LATIN >the egg was uncooked >you better believe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JyVPYtIffs
It's sequential. 7.0 launches with itself being updated and selective bits of earlier content, mostly ARR presumably, before they'll gradually work with each expansion until it's all updated. It could take a while or it could be their equivalent of updating the game with the Trusts throughout EW.
The question is: how many patches will it take? Will they do two expansions a patch, or one?
For example, will they start with EW and ARR done in 7.0, then do HW and ShB in 7.1 and SB in 7.2?
Or will it be EW and ARR done in 7.0, HW in 7.1, SB in 7.2, ShB in 7.3?
Or will it be one per patch, but there's gap patches, so 2 and 4 don't have any updates?
The question is: how many patches will it take? Will they do two expansions a patch, or one?
For example, will they start with EW and ARR done in 7.0, then do HW and ShB in 7.1 and SB in 7.2?
Or will it be EW and ARR done in 7.0, HW in 7.1, SB in 7.2, ShB in 7.3?
Or will it be one per patch, but there's gap patches, so 2 and 4 don't have any updates?
i think it'll be more spread out, consider how much fricking content they're trying to squeeze into DT
I'd say every 2nd patch
7.2, 7.4, 7.55 or 8.0
No the stormblood trailer was great. The first part had so much speculation about who the red woman was and if she was a dancer, seeing Ala Mhigo for the first time was hype and the out of reveal of the Far East drove people mad. You had the tease of underwater stuff and garleans in nip armor., All without revealing any of the story particulars. DT has had nothing to speculate about and the full trailer didn't expand anything other than what the two new jobs are and Wuk The hypest thing about it was "Wooh beach episode expac" from the initial teaser. The full trailer taking place entirely in the same location and just showing a bridge tot he other half of the expansion without an actual flythrough or tease of what's over there is stupid too.
the cgi kinda sucks and the music is boring and the action is kinda lame. DT looks better, sounds better, and is about the same level of action quality
STORM OF BLOOD, BORN FROM BLOOD, OF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS
5 months ago
Anonymous
god, the EW trailer was so good
5 months ago
Anonymous
All the best parts were SB related, curious.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, my favorite part of the EW trailer was the HW part.
Even if I don't care much for the actual HW cinematic.
5 months ago
Anonymous
HW cinematic was kinda meh, and the humans looked weird, but I loved the environments. The Ishgard inn looked so comfy
I know people don't like the DT trailer, which is fair, but you can tell how far the cinematic department has gotten, it is easily the best looking on a technical level
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think the DT trailer is fine. It just isn't amazing, and I liked the first part far more than the second.
And it's just hard to beat ARR/ShB/EW for me.
5 months ago
Anonymous
ShB was DT tier, wol fighting some random thing for 90% of it and a city for the rest of it
Ghost Barque Katana/Kagehide/Deepgold Blade/Flame Captain samurai weapon are all the same model and a cavalry saber
Katana of Althyk and Tsukuyomi's Chokuto are, well, chokutos, non-curved blades
Palaka Tulwar
Shin-Zantetsuken (comes in a DRK version under the same name, make sure you're buying the right one)
Bokuto, Gold Saucer
Crystarium and Rinascita Samurai Blade are cavalry sabers with the same model
Ravel Keeper's Blade and Gunromaru/The Unsullied Skies are both cane-swords and have no tsuba or hand-guard (zatoichi style, don't get excited and think I mean a European style cane-sword)
Wave Katana has a cavalry saber's handguard
I don't play whatever the frick this game is but goddamn is this an insanely overdesigned character.
The dude on the right in black is fine. But this chick (I think it's a chick?) looks too busy in her design.
That's because she's an adaptation of a literal Yoshitaka Amano design, basically taking Relm from FF6 and then throwing a coat on top. If you've seen the FF4 armorsets from the endgame of EW, the same amount of overdesigned bullshit is there because adapting Amano artwork to 3D always looks fricked.
>Amano artwork to 3D always looks fricked
I want a couple of words with you.
>Elidibus was so butthurt over Venat's betrayal that he not only swiped the status of Warrior of Light to manipulate people to his own ends while vaunting that he was the hero, he literally stole her face
It fits as its supposed to be a whimsical job, and people have wanted something like this for a long time. It's always been a Final Fantasy thing to have a cartoonish and cheerful class/character to offset the melodrama
didn't they say at some point that they were gonna rework overwork fates across all zones to be more like bozja with CEs?
or did i have some sort of schizo dream of this?
Schizo dream, or rather you're mixing up a semi-common Ganker complaint from the same guy or guys with the fact we are getting a Bozja-Eureka zone next expac
frick, why is it burned into my brain as a prominent memory
Schizo dream, or rather you're mixing up a semi-common Ganker complaint from the same guy or guys with the fact we are getting a Bozja-Eureka zone next expac
you're just getting something that's more like Bozja for DT, that's all
honestly Field Operations doesn't sound very "instanced exploratory zone" content to me, makes me wonder what they're cooking
This round of new jobs are so underwhelming. >Viper
Shit name. Like the weapons, but I hope not all of them are going to be small. Don't like the Blue Aura from the job trailer. Of the "3" DT jobs, it's the one I hope is the best designed >Pictomancer
Wasn't a fan of the concept from the get go (Beastmaster from Wish) and the job trailer didn't do shit to change my mind. Most likely hit Cap then drop it. >Beastmater
Limited, so useless the majority of the time and and going to gather dust just like Blue Mage. Not worth picking up the Job Stone.
First they said Hrothgar/viera would be the final races added. Recently, they just said new races would depend on the fans. How do you go about designing an original race that is appealing to people?
You could go around making concepts that can fit the general skeletons since they're prioritizing that first and foremost, and then polling. Because frankly it's obvious they were unprepared for the actual workload of Viera and Hrothgar the way things played out.
"New races will depend on you guys" strikes me as they've largely figured out what's holding viera and hrothgar back, especially with male viera having a skeleton and features that are much better suited to actually, you know, wearing hats
I can't see any more beastBlack person races happening though since hrothgar are so unpopular and any more beastly races would add onto the existing lore violation + take away from hrothgar's uniquity as a bestial race
If they introduced half-elves to this game, nobody would ever play Elezen again. It's the same reason they'll never give Highlander males eyebrows, it would basically eliminate male Midlanders from the game.
First they said Hrothgar/viera would be the final races added. Recently, they just said new races would depend on the fans. How do you go about designing an original race that is appealing to people?
Something like the Salarians from Mass Effect might be interesting. We've had lizards, why not have frogs?
Genomes would be an insanely good choice, Zidane clan somewhere around midlander height or slightly shorter and a Kuja clan somewhere around highlander height or slightly shorter
There's a decent chance Solution 9 isn't even real. If the entire thing is digital then it makes perfect sense why the people inside wouldn't be playable.
If they add another race it should be on the smaller side. Not necessarily lalafell-sized, but maybe something between that and a hyur. Like gnome > dwarf > human in other settings in terms of size.
I have an idea. Since we have fur humans, scaley humans, lets add Feathered humans too. They will be some semi garuda type thing that has a beak for a nose and hawk eyes. Make them less serious looking and give them indian cultural backgrounds.
It's not really an issue of developing armor for them from now on if they just use the same body types or implemented the autofitting tech from 1.0 to speed it up. It really just comes down to taking many people off of something for a long time just to make a race. Which takes away from something else.
5 months ago
Anonymous
No no no not that, the whole hat and helmet thing
5 months ago
Anonymous
I mean thats more to do with the design of the races heads and their ears. If thet just stick with round headed human heads and no ears shooting up, it should be fine.
I think small bird people based on owls or flightless birds would be cute. We need another short race and they rpobably won't add anything super bestial again so fishmen are out. That or plant people like the lilty, they'd need to differentiate them alot from lalafell tho
Instead of adding new races, add more customization options to the existing races. As someone who cares a lot about my WoL's lore and race, fantaing to a new race doesn't sit right with me. So adding more options would be both less work and more appealing to the fanbase
>add more customization options to the existing races.
yoship said they were looking into that twice now since DT development began
the second time was just recently
won't be in 7.0 or 7.x, though. maybe 8.0?
how hard can it be to add a fricking face or maybe a fricking color wheel bruh
and of course, we're never going to get a hair that goes down past the torso, cuz of le clipping (even though everything clips anyways)
>how hard can it be to add a fricking face
hard >or maybe a fricking color wheel bruh
less hard. depends on how their underlying foundation is. that said, I don't feel like XIV has ever been lacking in terms of color choice. if there's anything xiv has a dearth of, it's of course faces like you mentioned, but also stuff like beards and scars and all that. Also stuff like horns and beards being tied to specific faces.
with what they've shown off with their faces having the same amount of polys between almost all races to the point of being able to morph between them, I wonder how unrealistic facial sliders and the like would be >and of course, we're never going to get a hair that goes down past the torso
keep the faith, brother
ill keep hoping that one day this hair gets added and its longer than it seems in pso2 i had hair that went down to my fricking ankles, sure it clipped everywhere but it made me look cool as frick, xiv already has crazy glams so they might as well go all the way imo
5 months ago
Anonymous
Hopefully, they get over their dumb fear of clipping and just let players choose if they want to endure it.
A lot of shit already clips, anyway. Ever seen gear with a high collar? Most hair, not even the super long styles, cli pwith that.
5 months ago
Anonymous
exactly
im pretty sure thats just the excuse they use to be lazy
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think they just don't realize or accept how dissonant they are being.
I'm kinda stressing about this, how quickly can you get Viper from 80 to 90 after the expac drops? Really want to play through as one but don't want to fall too far behind
Assuming the instance queues aren't broken, you should be able to do it in about 5 hours in Bozja.
>no bozja type thing to grind >only possibility is Eureka Orthos >it's hell to run and takes forever >only other options are FATEs or bogged down low XP Bozja farming
>lorebook mention Elidibus was the only one permitted to wear a white robe since it marked his impartiality as emissary of the Convocation >Venat got to wear a white robe because she's Venat
Do I have to shit on you AGAIN about how garlemald is an ethnostate? holy frick.
5 months ago
Anonymous
you'll never guess what the entire point of varis's "just let us conquer you lmao" speech was and how it feeds into garlemald being the ascians' puppet nation exactly like allag was
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's not an ethnostate though. The whole mission of Garlemald is to bring every race and nation into its fold and it actively educates and promotes people of other races.
Why do you make me do this again. Garlemald is an ethnostate it actively annexes neighboring territory and turns them into satellite states that are beholden to direct garlean control.
On top of that you cannot become a legalized garlean citizen unless you serve in the army, are a traitor to your nation state(even this isn't concrete), have some sort of highly specialized skill, or are given specialized status by a legatus.
There isn't a single eorzean "garlean" that has a civilian title, they all have military titles as they are all conscripts or military personal. Not normal members of society. So garlemald is an ethnostate.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Garlemald is an ethnostate it actively annexes neighboring territory and turns them into satellite states that are beholden to direct garlean control.
That's not what an ethnostate means, you fricking idiot. Was Napoleonic France an ethnostate? Was the Soviet Union?
5 months ago
Anonymous
By your logic France was an ethnostate until the 70s because the foreign legion was the only way to get citizenship
5 months ago
Anonymous
It sounds like you don't know what an ethnostate actually is. >On top of that you cannot become a legalized garlean citizen unless you serve in the army
Asahi was literally picked up by an officer who went around Doma collecting kids to be given an education, and he was working for the government by the time he finished school. He was the highest ranking ambassador in the country. >have some sort of highly specialized skill
Garlemald literally goes out of its way to give educations to foreigners.
The ENTIRE mission statement of Garlemald is to induct other races and people into their 'progressive' way of thinking and the security of the empire. How many times does the game have to beat you over the head with its "MONOCULTURE BAD" theme?
5 months ago
Anonymous
see
That is the only sense in which ethnostate matters, an ethno nationalistic state is a state that make immigration nearly impossible under normal circumstances.
An authoritarian fascistic regime is one that then uses that racial superiority as a reason to invade other "lesser" countries for either ethnic cleansing or supremacy.
No countries annexed by garlemald are allies, they are satellite nations that bend to garlean will.
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Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
Jenomis's wife, who was Hyuran.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Sure, can you show me entire name and title?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Tia Lexentale, she was either a cen like her husband or a bas like her children.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Garlemald literally goes out of its way to give educations to foreigners.
...Yes nationalist education on the glory of the state of garlemald....after conquering their country.
>Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
Wasn't Asahi a diplomat and nobleman? "House von Brutus" or something along those lines? (Also, *really* fricking subtle there, Square, bravo)
No his station was a military station. It was the highest station a non-garlean born aan could receive without special permissions.
"sas: Tribunus angusticlavius, assumes command of a secondary unit if a legion is split. Praefectus castrorum, leader of a castrum and the highest rank attainable by a citizen of non-Garlean ancestry."
5 months ago
Anonymous
>...Yes nationalist education on the glory of the state of garlemald....after conquering their country.
No? It's practical education. You're literally just making shit up now. >No his station was a military station.
Because he was an ambassador. Most aspects of Garlean society are related to the military in some manner to begin with. Even engineers have a military title. You can't call a nation an ethnostate if it makes a habit of inducting outside ethnicities into seats of office.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>No? It's practical education. You're literally just making shit up now.
No I'm not? play stormblood again you moron.
>Because he was an ambassador. Most aspects of Garlean society are related to the military in some manner to begin with.
Source??? also no? there are specific titles for non-military citizens.
cen: Civis fabrilis, artisans and other citizens working on manufacturing.
bas: Civis mercatus, merchants and other citizens working on services. Civis fundamine, citizens working on collecting raw materials.
All foreigners are required to be conscripted to lose their title of aan and even then they will most likely either die in the field or be promoted to a higher military title. Asahi's situation is incredibly special, and even then he was forced to conscript and ended up with a military title. You can assume he was naturalized but to act like every doman child was adopted by garlean misers would still imply they were forced into conscription.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Forcing foreigners into conscription guarantees that foreigners will gain citizenship, education, AND military training and weapons. None of which are things any ethnostate would grant to people who are not part of the ethnicity. It also guarantees that foreigners will hold positions of power, which we saw on many occasions in the game with characters like Asahi and the Gabranths. You're a joke.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He thinks it's totally a fair form of immigration that you have to serve as an active conscript for 20+ just to be allowed in. >He thinks high situational cases of legatus favoritism >Koji reaction image
Doom sissy....why are you so DOGSHIT at this. You might be worse than the guy from before I talked to about this.
By every standard by which we define an ethnostate what you're describing would be an ethnostate, you are essentially creating a system where 98% of your conscripts will not be able to obtain citizenship.
A 20 year + war term where you are way more likely to be under active duty pretty much guarantees your death. We see this with the doman conscripts in the role quest who all pretty much fricking DIED serving garlemald.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He thinks it's totally a fair form of immigration that you have to serve as an active conscript for 20+ just to be allowed in.
Yes, real life used to be like that as well, before it went to shit
5 months ago
Anonymous
Depends on what country you're talking about. In the US, before Congress started passing immigration quota laws in the 1920s, the only other restriction on immigration was the Chinese Exclusion Act (passed in the 1880s). As long as you weren't Chinese, you could literally just show up.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>A 20 year + war term where you are way more likely to be under active duty pretty much guarantees your death.
Not necessarily, a lot of those soldiers would just be on random guard/patrol duty. And with a military as advanced as Garlemald's, a massive portion of your total troop numbers would be in non-combat roles, the same as pretty much any modern military. Someone has to move supplies, repair the magitek armor, cook the food, etc. .
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He thinks it's totally a fair form of immigration that you have to serve as an active conscript for 20+ just to be allowed in.
This is incorrect. Garlemald doesn't only 'allow' people into its borders. It forces them in. And then it forces them to undergo the process which will grant full rights of citizenship. >He thinks high situational cases of legatus favoritism
Which legatus favored Asahi? Are you somehow under the impression that military conscription is a special favor offered to select people, and not something forced on all men of fighting age? >Koji reaction image
It's appropriate because you're losing a lore argument. >Doom sissy
Holy frick you are broken. >By every standard by which we define an ethnostate what you're describing would be an ethnostate
No, there is no ethnostate that fits Garlemald's behavior. Garlemald literally FORCES citizenship upon foreign peoples. It is the opposite of an ethnostate. It's a globalist monoculture, which the game has several different disastrous examples of to show why such a thing is fricking stupid. >you are essentially creating a system where 98% of your conscripts will not be able to obtain citizenship.
Garlean warfare is typically done through machina and carpet bombing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>This is incorrect. Garlemald doesn't only 'allow' people into its borders. It forces them in. And then it forces them to undergo the process which will grant full rights of citizenship.
Yes they annex/conquer them but they never join the garlemald nation proper. Aan will always be aan, even if a legatus tells you otherwise we know this culturally with how fordola was treated.
>Which legatus favored Asahi?
Asahi was conscripted by an officer, he was in the military before he met Zenos dumb dumb, we literally see Zenos save his ass which is why he fell in love with him.
>Incoherent cope. >Garlean warfare is typically done through machina and carpet bombing.
What the frick does this have to do with anything? do you think they used pure bloods as ground fodder you dense moron? the brunt of who you fight in ARR are conscripts. Which is funny because Gaius is painted as the nicer of the legatus's.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes they annex/conquer them but they never join the garlemald nation proper.
Wrong, we meet several characters that prove this wrong. Rhitatyn is a great example because his loyalty toward Garlemald comes from how the quality of his homeland improved greatly. >Asahi was conscripted by an officer
Uh, yeah. All conscripts are conscripted by an officer. That's how it works. So which legatus favored him to allow him to skip the 20 years of service? >do you think they used pure bloods as ground fodder you dense moron?
No, the majority of the military in general is made of conscripts. Which again guarantees that foreigners will end up in positions of power, with education and with military training and weapons. Which proves that Garlemald is not an ethnostate.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Rhitatyn is a great example because his loyalty toward Garlemald comes from how the quality of his homeland improved greatly.
....Which we never see in game and which contrast both doma and dalmasca, also still doesn't change that they are annexed and conquered aan territories. One guy being like "Yeah garlemald is based actually" doesn't change or refute anything I've said.
>Uh, yeah. All conscripts are conscripted by an officer. That's how it works.
Play stormblood again, asahi was a child when he was conscripted a child when he saw Yotsuyuu being abused, unless you know exact ages based on the lore he was 7 when conscripted and then gained citizenship.
>No, the majority of the military in general is made of conscripts. Which again guarantees that foreigners will end up in positions of power
Except they are only ever able to obtain ambassadorial roles, curious, aslo >Aan are most likely to be cannon fodder >This somehow means they are the most likely to live....because...reasons!
Compelling argument. Frontline fighters are always the first to die moron, do you think it was common for trench shooters to come back home during WW I? no it's why the euphemism "in the trenches" means you're either fricked or in a bad situation.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>....Which we never see in game
You do in fact see Rhitatyn in the game. >asahi was a child when he was conscripted
You fricking moron. That officer didn't conscript him. He brought him to the capitol for an education. Play the game and read what happens instead of inventing your own moronic commie fantasies.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You fricking moron. That officer didn't conscript him. >Describes him literally being conscripted and we then see him in the army in the next flashback
Holy shit you're actually just moronic. He is RECRUITING him into the MILITARY you dumbfrick. Do you want to link the scene?
5 months ago
Anonymous
He brings him for an education and offers to do the same for Yotsuyu you STUPID fricking commie moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
So why is he in the military afterwards anon? if he just got a free education and tutoring.
Also please link the cutscene if you're so sure. Surely you will do this, if you don't I'll just link it myself. Tick tock.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>So why is he in the military afterwards anon?
Because he joins the military years later, dipshit. >if he just got a free education and tutoring.
Why would this preclude joining the military? Especially in a fascist nation that revolves around the military. Anyone who wants to get anywhere joins the military. >Also please link the cutscene if you're so sure.
Didn't you just offer to? What happened bro? Did you forget that the point of the scene was that a Garlean officer was extending a kindness to Yotsuyu which her own caretakers refused, showing why she might be more sympathetic to Garlemald than her own people? That would be pretty embarrassing if you'd forgotten something like that!
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Because he joins the military years later, dipshit.
Source? >Why would this preclude joining the military? Especially in a fascist nation that revolves around the military. Anyone who wants to get anywhere joins the military.
Why would a random conscript be able to allow any doman citizen full legal garlean citizenship LMAO your entire argument is less feasible and less lore compliant than mine and is also a huge goal post shift. >More babble
No the scenes where we see yotsuyu was abused and then sold off to as a childbride into prostitution was what emphasized that, also I'm still waiting, SURELY you're subscribed to the game and are not just feverishly looking for the cutscene on youtube right now as you stall.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Source?
Source that he joined the military at 7 years old? >Why would a random conscript be able to allow any doman citizen full legal garlean citizenship
He didn't. He brought him for an education, which is extended to non-citizens too. Which you'd know if you played the game. >No the scenes where we see yotsuyu was abused and then sold off to as a childbride into prostitution was what emphasized that
Hey bud? The scene I'm talking about is the one that shows the abuse. There are no scenes of her being married off. >also I'm still waiting
What happened bro? Did you not just offer to link it yourself? What are you waiting for?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Bunch of random goal post shifts and obfuscation
You really wanna fight me on things that have nothing to do with my assertions isn't that funny? I don't care what your OPINION is or what your CONJECTURE is. The fact of the matter is that in the lore aans cannot become citizens unless they serve 20+ years in the military. Asahi was CONSCRIPTED as a child. Otherwise this scene followed up by the next scene makes zero sense. He's obviously recruiting him, now if you want me to bring up the japanese text next to BTFO you I can. But before that please answer this.
Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Asahi was CONSCRIPTED as a child. Otherwise this scene followed up by the next scene makes zero sense.
I know I'm talking to a globalist commie moron but somehow you're still baffling me with your stupidity. They show him being brought to the capitol for an education in one scene, and then the next scene which takes place many years later, during the course of ARR's events, shows him in the military. And thus you think that must mean he joined the military as a child in the first scene? Holy shit dude. >Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
Again >most of Garlean society revolves around the military >foreigners are forced into conscription and thus have a military title by default
Your question is disingenuous. Let's stop dancing around your stupidity and get back to the point. A nation which FORCES foreign races to participate in citizenship, which FORCES them to have military training and weapons, and with FORCES them to have an education is not an ethnostate. It is a globalist monoculture shithole that prides itself on bringing "progress" and "security" and wiping away those gross, dangerous cultural elements like religion. You know, that society you dream of.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>They show him being brought to the capitol for an education in one scene
FRICKING SOURCE LOL? are you just schizoing out now that I've BTFO you?
>and then the next scene which takes place many years later, during the course of ARR's events, shows him in the military. And thus you think that must mean he joined the military as a child in the first scene? Holy shit dude
Literally in-game source for any of this???
>Your question is disingenuous.
No it's not disingenuous but you want to move off of it because it completely blows your dumbfrick conjecture out of the water. No non-pureblood garleans are ever seen as common place citizens in EW, all garlean citizens are either aan granted special status in annexed territory like with fordola whose father was a traitor and worked for gaius. Or are conscripted in the military, keep in mind using POWs or immediately conscripting citizens of annexed countries is against the geneva convention and a war crime. >More insane babble not supported by the text
You lost on every single point dude, just let it go the story doesn't support your assertion at all. You can't even do your "all citizens are in the military in garlemald" meme because there are non-combative citizen classes. This is like saying because there are more ranks in the military than in normal society a nation is predominantly soldiers.
You're literally so destroyed you're not even making logical sense.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>FRICKING SOURCE LOL? >pic related >"as well"
LOL >Literally in-game source for any of this???
Holy shit dude. The scene which shows Asahi being saved by Zenos is during the failed rebellion that Yugiri fled from in ARR. He even talks about going on his way to kill Kaien. Play the game, dumb fricking commie. >No it's not disingenuous
It absolutely is because the path to citizenship is through military service, therefore non-Garleans get a military title by default. You're aware of this. >No non-pureblood garleans are ever seen as common place citizens in EW
Notice how you had to specifiy "in EW" because characters like Asahi, Rhitatyn, and Misijia blow your headcanon the frick out? >You can't even do your "all citizens are in the military in garlemald" meme because there are non-combative citizen classes.
It's a fascist society in which social class revolves around the military. The military is the central feature of the government and society at large. And all non-Garleans, by default, will have a military title because that is the path to citizenship. Fricking idiot. Keep coping about your evil, disgusting ideology getting called out for what it is.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>its fascist because....i dont like it
5 months ago
Anonymous
Garlemald is fascist by the definition of the word, has nothing to do with what I think about it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ganker is a funny place where you can ironically bat for fascism and not get your teeth kicked in like other websites
5 months ago
Anonymous
I mean that guy LOVES ethnostates and is a /misc/monkey so he probably loves fascism as much as he hates reading or bathing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>ethnostates
where?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Israel
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He is fully melting down
He is trying to CONSCRIPT THEM.
Do I really need to explain to you how to parse this scene??
>Holy shit dude. The scene which shows Asahi being saved by Zenos
No moron what you said here, where do we see him go to garlemald?
>They show him being brought to the capitol for an education in one scene
Where do we see him taken to garlemald for an education?
>More melting down
Holy frick are you this angry you can't substantiate any of your points anymore? >Notice how you had to specifiy "in EW" because characters like Asahi, Rhitatyn, and Misijia blow your headcanon the frick out?
No they aren't citizens because they are aan who are in military service. It is not humane that the only avenue for citizenship to a country is forced conscription or because a legatus conquers your land and gives you a super special title, that is an ethnostate. No true blooded garlean considers fordola anything but an aan because her status is not legitimate, as evidenced by this cutscene and the cutscene in endwalker.
Also it's funny how you go
>Notice how you had to specify(this is how it's spelt by the way stop raging ESL moron) the expansion that specifically goes into garlean mainland culture
Yeah of course, what else should I reference your fricking delusions? Garlemald is an ethnostate with a viscous and exclusionary immigration system. Everything in the game shows this.
5 months ago
Anonymous
AIEEEEEEEEE
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm a capitalist why do you think I dislike this scene? you're literally doing what you're accusing me of.
>Communism is when you argue against me.
Israel
You sound like a progressive commie.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I am no such thing lmao. Israel is absolutely an ethnostate though.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm a capitalist
so a fascist then?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He is trying to CONSCRIPT THEM.
He literally tells Asahi's mom that she has a legal obligation to send Yotsuyu for an education you illiterate commie shistain. >No moron what you said here, where do we see him go to garlemald? >Where do we see him taken to garlemald for an education?
In the scene you posted, where the officer comes to take him for an education. >No they aren't citizens because they are aan who are in military service.
They are not aan. Rhitatyn and Asahi are sas, and Misija is a pyr. You don't see the sort of gymnastics you're jumping through here? >No true blooded garlean considers fordola anything but an aan because her status is not legitimate
Gaius isn't a true blooded Garlean? Weird, I could have sworn he was. Also could have sworn that she's legally a pyr, and later a rem, and has full rights of a citizen. >Yeah of course, what else should I reference your fricking delusions?
There are several hundred hours of game before EW, dipshit. Also >minor spelling mistake
You lost when you have to resort to this. Fricking idiot. >Garlemald is an ethnostate with a viscous and exclusionary immigration system
It's not exclusionary at all when its function is literally to force everyone into it. How can you so effectively ignore this one single point? Is it that globohomosexual brainwashing?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He literally tells Asahi's mom that she has a legal obligation to send Yotsuyu for an education you illiterate commie shistain.
Holy frick you're just lying again, pic rel is just him saying that she is not filed as adopted or have any paperwork that registers her. Why the frick would he need to ASSESS and then talk about COMPENSATION if this is some legal obligation to teach them?? every single thing you try to assert contradicts the scene you autist.
Her legal obligation is to MAKE SURE THEY KNOW ABOUT ALL OF HER CHILDREN ON RECORD. Jesus do I have to explain something this simple?
>In the scene you posted, where the officer comes to take him for an education.
Oh so in your delusionary world where we ignore him just conscripting asahi to the army. Gotcha. >They are not aan. Rhitatyn and Asahi are sas, and Misija is a pyr. You don't see the sort of gymnastics you're jumping through here?
Those are military titles, which I've explained again is because garlemalds only avenue for citizenship is through 20+ years of service, which is not humane. Can you show me any common citizen who immigrated through non-military means? no ramza and alma do not count as we don't know whether Tia was an aan or a bas and the bas in their name is inherited from Jenomis, meaning they are not IMMIGRANTS.
>More schizo babble.
Okay let's do this, if you can find me ANY official material that shows that you can become a garlean citizen without needing to.
A. Be liked by a legatus
B. Serve 20+ years of military duty
C. Have your country annexed AND be conscripted into the military
I will concede, show me garlemalds center of immigration where they are literally IMPORTING miqo'te.
Why are ethnostates bad again? Should we import whites into kenya so it can be more multicultural?
Because they are inherently fascist, you cannot keep the strictness of immigration an ethnostate requires without some form of fascism. But 100% of ethnostates are failures anyway.
>Holy frick you're just lying again, pic rel is just him saying that she is not filed as adopted or have any paperwork that registers her.
Read what he says and not what you imagine he said. >"She is of age to receive an education as well, is she not? Yet we have no records. I trust I need not remind you of your legal obligations--"
How bad is your reading comprehension here? He's saying that she's of age to receive an education, yet they have no record of her, and thus the mother is not meeting her legal obligation. That meaning, her obligation to put Yotsuyu on record so she can be picked up for an education. Hence why he leads with that. >Oh so in your delusionary world where we ignore him just conscripting asahi to the army.
Source on him conscripting him? Because all he talks about in that scene is bringing him for an education. >"She is of age to receive an education as well, is she not?" >"as well" >"as well"
As well as who? Asahi. >if you can find me ANY official material that shows that you can become a garlean citizen without needing to.
What you're asking here is for me to provide something that shows you can become a Garlean citizen without going through the citizenship process. Surely you understand how ridiculous this is to ask. The fact is you're arguing in bad faith. The Garlean immigration process is not exclusionary because it is literally forced upon everyone. >show me garlemalds center of immigration where they are literally IMPORTING miqo'te.
The military.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>and exclusionary immigration system.
They... literally force people into it...
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Another doom sissy
Source? and to remind you, being conscripted in order to gain citizenship is an exclusionary form of immigration(and also highly illegal if it's your only avenue of citizenship).
Needing an active combat role and being a borderline combatant POW(which is illegal) is inhumane.
>Strict border contro--ACK!
Not what I said, it's simple.
>Make laws so only one race can be in your country
Human rights violation >Kill anyone who is a race you do not want in your country
Human rights violation >Force whoever is a race you don't like to leave your country
Human rights violation
You cannot have an ethnostate without doing any of those three, which is fascism.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Well, it was pretty obvious you were trolling the whole time, but thanks for confirming it
5 months ago
Anonymous
I literally accept your concession. Sorry the FACTS of the game doesn't align with your FEELINGS.
>Holy frick you're just lying again, pic rel is just him saying that she is not filed as adopted or have any paperwork that registers her.
Read what he says and not what you imagine he said. >"She is of age to receive an education as well, is she not? Yet we have no records. I trust I need not remind you of your legal obligations--"
How bad is your reading comprehension here? He's saying that she's of age to receive an education, yet they have no record of her, and thus the mother is not meeting her legal obligation. That meaning, her obligation to put Yotsuyu on record so she can be picked up for an education. Hence why he leads with that. >Oh so in your delusionary world where we ignore him just conscripting asahi to the army.
Source on him conscripting him? Because all he talks about in that scene is bringing him for an education. >"She is of age to receive an education as well, is she not?" >"as well" >"as well"
As well as who? Asahi. >if you can find me ANY official material that shows that you can become a garlean citizen without needing to.
What you're asking here is for me to provide something that shows you can become a Garlean citizen without going through the citizenship process. Surely you understand how ridiculous this is to ask. The fact is you're arguing in bad faith. The Garlean immigration process is not exclusionary because it is literally forced upon everyone. >show me garlemalds center of immigration where they are literally IMPORTING miqo'te.
The military.
>Read what he says and not what you imagine he said.
Yes that is literally what he says he comments that she is not on record and reminds her of her legal obligations they then talk about striking a deal.
>How bad is your reading comprehension here? He's saying that she's of age to receive an education, yet they have no record of her, and thus the mother is not meeting her legal obligation. That meaning, her obligation to put Yotsuyu on record so she can be picked up for an education. Hence why he leads with that.
Her legal obligation is to keep the records what? are you moronic can you not read? he literally directly mentions it after commenting on her lack of records. This also again contradicts with their previous conversation, you're literally just delusional.
>More cope
Nope I'm asking you to show me a non-military corridor for immigration which would EASILY refute all of my assertions. You can't do that because garlemald is a fascist ethnostate, as the game meant for them to be.
So if you can show me this evidence I will gladly concede, if not, I'm sorry but everything in every text of the game disagrees with how you FEEL. As it were.
But you can though? What kind of fricking moron believes genocide is necessary for an ethnostate? It's not a human right for people to be able to go wherever the frick they want also, if that's the case national borders serve no purpose.
>It's not a human right for people to be able to go wherever the frick they want
You're right, it's not a right to go wherever you want, it IS a human right to be allowed the freedom of association on a broader citizen like scale. If someone wants to go through a legal channel to become a citizen, that channel should be as fair and humane as possible.
>doom sissy
What the frick are you babbling about? >being conscripted in order to gain citizenship is an exclusionary form of immigration(and also highly illegal if it's your only avenue of citizenship).
So the forced immigration process isn't a forced immigration process because... it's illegal in real life...
Nevermind, you're trolling.
It's not forced immigration because they are aan until they survive the 20+ years. This is what we would call, a scam. To begin with the military system is only a chance kek it's not even guranteed.
"Citizenship may be granted for a display of exceptional skill or serving in the military for 20 years or more."
Maybe if you kill WOL.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I mean it was over as soon as you said "human rights violation", that's such a cathedral buzzword its hilarious
you are probably some wowrat trying to make xiv fans look bad tbh
5 months ago
Anonymous
>citizenship to any country I want is a human right
No it's not dumb shit, nations have the prerogative to deny citizenship to anyone they choose for any reason they choose. Get fricked, that is one of the most basic tenants of being a sovereign nation.
if they're twenty minutes away from the border they were probably already there in the first place before the orange farmers hired them for five cents an hour, same shit as mexicali with white folk rolling in and saying they've always been there while the brown potato-sack looking guys in the background look at them and try to ignore the cities being named los angeles and san francisco
That's not how antions and borders have worked at any point in human history. People lose wars and national borders have shifted throughout the entirety of human history. The post WW2 hegemony keeping nation states mostly static since its inception is an absolute anomaly compared to the rest of history.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes it is, you have the freedom of a association the only way for you to take or block that right is through a human rights violation.
Literally every definition agrees with you, if you BELIEVE that that right doesn't exist that's fine, But there are only three ways to secure an "ethnostates" borders.
If someone WANTS to come there you either killing them or deporting them.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, post your address. I'm coming to your house. The borders are open right?
5 months ago
Anonymous
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500
5 months ago
Anonymous
>deporting them
Uh, yeah? That's the entire point. Surely you're not arguing deportation is a human rights violation.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Surely you're not arguing deportation is a human rights violation.
he is because he is insane, of course this does not apply to whites in south africa (who are 'colonizers' not 'immigrants')
5 months ago
Anonymous
>deporting them
Uh, yeah? That's the entire point. Surely you're not arguing deportation is a human rights violation.
Deportation is only legal under a system that has a proper fair and compliant channel for immigration as there is a stark definition between legal and illegal immigration.
When there is no legal immigration and all immigration is "illegal" the government is violating human rights. That simple.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>deportation laws are a violation of human rights unless the adhere to my arbitrary definition of what's "fair"
Eat a dick, as previously stated it is the purview of the nation state to decide their own laws in regards to who gets to immigrate to their nation.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Eat a dick, as previously stated it is the purview of the nation state to decide their own la---ACK!!
Too bad every charter we have in our society disagrees with you homosexual. Which is why you losers will never have an ethnostate, it is morally repugnant and cannot be enacted without borderline genocide at worst and fascism at best.
Cheers!
>the government is violating human rights
....who cares? its one thing if you are genociding people and invading continents, another if everyone in the country decides "yeah, we don't want you here. Leave."
Can countries not decide how to govern themselves? You are like 90s democrat boomers who saw the Middle East willingly being authoritarian and went "THEY MUST BE GETTING MANIPULATED THERES NO WAY A CULTURE WOULDN'T CHOOSE SACRED DEMOCRACY"
just pure enlightenment bullcrap
>....who cares?
It's generally better if we don't subject people to treatment we wouldn't want to be subjected to, but I know for hypocritical fricks like you that's difficult to comprehend.
its not an ethnostate tho
you still haven't explained how it is one, other than the fact that you don't like ethnostates, and you don't like garlemald, so they must be the same because you are mentally ill
literally "TRUMP IS A FASCIST!" tier argument
>the basic narrative parallel between garlemald and an ethnostate.
Garlemald isn't an ethnostate, it's one of several globalist monocultures the game features to showcase the failing points of such a thing. Every single globalist monoculture in the game ends in disaster because they don't have the diversity of thought to deal with problems outside their way of thinking.
Fortunately for me, the text in the game, and their forced conscription system which only has a 100% chance of making you a citizen if you KILL THE STRONGEST EORZEAN SOLDIER, agrees with me and not you.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>It's generally better if we don't subject people to treatment we wouldn't want to be subjected to
??????
i don't want to live in a group of people outside my ethnicity
my ideal world is everyone having their own ethnostate
i wouldn't care at all if i got deported from japan, because guess what, im not japanese, i dont look like one, and i dont think like one
of course you are a psychopath so you assume everyone is as violent and psycopathic as you
5 months ago
Anonymous
Plot twist is that I don't actually advocate for an ethnostate, but I do believe that a nation's soverignty to determine who is and isn't allowed within its borders I have no idea why your mind is whipping to visions of genocide because of this idea.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>the government is violating human rights
....who cares? its one thing if you are genociding people and invading continents, another if everyone in the country decides "yeah, we don't want you here. Leave."
Can countries not decide how to govern themselves? You are like 90s democrat boomers who saw the Middle East willingly being authoritarian and went "THEY MUST BE GETTING MANIPULATED THERES NO WAY A CULTURE WOULDN'T CHOOSE SACRED DEMOCRACY"
just pure enlightenment bullcrap
5 months ago
Anonymous
But you can though? What kind of fricking moron believes genocide is necessary for an ethnostate? It's not a human right for people to be able to go wherever the frick they want also, if that's the case national borders serve no purpose.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>doom sissy
What the frick are you babbling about? >being conscripted in order to gain citizenship is an exclusionary form of immigration(and also highly illegal if it's your only avenue of citizenship).
So the forced immigration process isn't a forced immigration process because... it's illegal in real life...
Nevermind, you're trolling.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You sound like zodiark trancers who think emet was only gonna sacrifice trees and fish to bring back the other ancients.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You sound like you don't have an argument but you want to redirect into some other boogeyman.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing of what you have said has anything to do with an "ethnostate".
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's not an ethnostate though. The whole mission of Garlemald is to bring every race and nation into its fold and it actively educates and promotes people of other races.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>garlemald is an ethnostate >has every eorzean race and color that exists
you are really dumb anon
5 months ago
Anonymous
He's not wrong in the sense that Garlemald very firmly keeps Garleans (the race) as their upper nobility and highest value soldiers but that's also the only sense in which he's right
5 months ago
Anonymous
That is the only sense in which ethnostate matters, an ethno nationalistic state is a state that make immigration nearly impossible under normal circumstances.
An authoritarian fascistic regime is one that then uses that racial superiority as a reason to invade other "lesser" countries for either ethnic cleansing or supremacy.
No countries annexed by garlemald are allies, they are satellite nations that bend to garlean will.
>Garlemald is an ethnostate it actively annexes neighboring territory and turns them into satellite states that are beholden to direct garlean control.
That's not what an ethnostate means, you fricking idiot. Was Napoleonic France an ethnostate? Was the Soviet Union?
ethnostate
or eth·no-state
[ eth-noh-steyt ]SHOW IPA
noun
a country populated by, or dominated by the interests of, a single racial or ethnic group:
Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
Wasn't Asahi a diplomat and nobleman? "House von Brutus" or something along those lines? (Also, *really* fricking subtle there, Square, bravo)
5 months ago
Anonymous
>a country populated by, or dominated by the interests of, a single racial or ethnic group
Seems like an insanely broad definition, almost every country that's ever existed would be considered an ethnostate by this logic. Even the US was dominated by the interests of Anglo-Saxon Protestants from the East Coast until very recently
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Seems like an insanely broad definition
Sure we can go with this then.
ethnostate
/ˈeTHnōˌstāt/
noun
noun: ethnostate; plural noun: ethnostates; noun: ethno-state; plural noun: ethno-states
a sovereign state of which citizenship is restricted to members of a particular racial or ethnic group.
"they actively promoted the concept of a white ethnostate"
Even if we go by this more "favorable" definition would you say that it's a fair and common way for immigration to be handled that you must serve 20 years in order to remove your status of aan?
Keep in mind outside of this text the only reference we have for ANYTHING outside this 20 year rule being standard are legatus's purposefully bending the rules in already annexed states.
We never see how this would play out in the actual garlemald home state proper.
But I mean, we can assume with how the few garlean NPCs we meet react to you and are all pure blooded garleans.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Which annexed state did Asahi get an education in and which legatus bent the rules for him? Or did he start his military service at 7 years old?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Which annexed state did Asahi get an education in and which legatus bent the rules for him?
An irrelevant question because his situation is not the norm and still led to him entering military service with a military title at the end of the day. He was picked up by some random officer to begin with and was in the military before he even met Zenos just fyi.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Even if we go by this more "favorable" definition would you say that it's a fair and common way for immigration to be handled that you must serve 20 years in order to remove your status of aan?
Hasn't Garlemald only been an empire for about 50 years or so, though? Not a lot of time for people to filter through this requirement. Also, I could have sworn I remember reading that the Roman Empire had an almost identical system for citizenship. If you were some provincial from Germania or Gaul or something, serving in the legions for 20 years would grant you citizenship, and that's how as time progressed you started seeing Roman Emperors with non-Italian backgrounds. I don't think anyone would consider Rome an ethnostate, at least not once the Republic fell.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Don't we see people of all different ethnicities fighting for Garlemald, though? Asahi and Yotsuyu both seem to be pretty high ranking in the Empire and they're both ethnic Domans. I always saw Garlemald more like a psycho magitek version of the Romans: there's a clear dominant ethnic/cultural group, but there's not a hard and fast rule about who can be a part of it. As long as you don't have a soul and you enjoy inflicting suffering on innocent people, you can be on the team.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Garlemald wasn't even close to being perceivable as an ethnostate until stormblood made them all act like fricking one piece villains
I just thought it was weird how the trailer doesn't really tell us anything about the story. All the others gave at least some kind of suggestion of what's going on, Dawntrail just seems to be "the Scions are chilling in a tropical paradise, and maybe there's a treasure?".
I like the earlier iterations of it. Once they started expanding the trailer to fit more scenes in and the song got stretched with empty air, it really fricked itself, never mind the entire Pictomancer section.
If AST rework is crap and all healers are still boring I'll probably hop off and play pictomancer, smn, and dnc/mch assuming picto has intricate gameplay and smn gets something to build on it's foundation. Also si it PIC, PCT, or PTO?
I wanted Corsair and Pictomancer, I'm happy to get one of them. Green Mage and Geomancer sounded very boring.
BST is a neat cherry on top but we won't have it for like 2 years so whatever
that the scion jacket? It works with your character.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, apparently off the top of my head I was still only a couple months into the game so I didn't really have much for glamour. Made due with what I had and bleached hair to fit the Lightwarden turn.
The only criticism I have of this trailer is that they gave Emet-Selch's lines from the end of the story ("who are you? No one. Nothing.") to that weird little gremlin guy. I guess they were trying to avoid spoilers but the whole thing just feels weird and vaguely comedic, especially since they end up having nothing to do with the story.
The day every MSQ Trial is able to be run with Duty Support/Trusts is the day this game is 100% singleplayer for the main story. And Dawntrail hasn't announced a single plan to do anything of the sort despite testbedding it with Hydaelyn.
What are your bets on astro rework >card buffs are kill? >more time mage stuff? >Synastry and/or Neutral Sect are kill?
I don't think they'll do anything with their dps abilities.
Both of them are 9/10. They nailed it for this expansion. I've been waiting so long for a proper dual wield class. Ninja is so fricking cringe with their anime frogs and naruto running.
No, most FF sucks, but Yoshi love Ivalice and Tactics Ogre so sometimes I expect better from him, but shb and ew were the same slops as the rest of the series
Guild have write solution many time.
1 Kill all main chara and replace with the King Solus and No Shadow God
2 Replace Endwalking story with the Garlemalding fanfic
3 Rejoiner all soles to Blood God Zod
4 Making the traditional masculine chara
5 No wood in cheesie burger
I do love Sage a lot. I just wish I could have a god damn sci fi helmet/mask to go with it and go full Gundam.
carrots of happiness is a god-tier addition to the OST
[...] >use pepsis for the first time on accident >mfw i reach up and crush the eukrasian prognosis i just casted for more HP healing
Better question: what's the worst job reveal, and why is it dancer? >middle of exciting, dramatic Shadowbringers trailer with the Scions fighting for their lives and the WoL going toe-to-toe with an archangel >DUDE LOOK AT THIS BUNNYGIRL STRIPPER DANCING IN A TENT FOR 5 SECONDS >Anyways, back to the story
Because Veira have always been the "we want the coomer audience" race. No point in beating around the bush. Just look at the village they have in the forest >yeah they're all eternally like 25 and they all wear skirts+crop tops and high heels and there are no men
dude there have only been a handful of actual job reveals, let alone ones dropped as part of the expac trailer >SAM >DNC >GNB >SGE >VPR >Pictomancer
that's literally it
almost certainly, but the question is if he'll have tanked his streaming career by that point, since he keeps trying to pick internet fights and cover up his company stealing donations to charities
Viper is massively disappointing. The animations look awful. I would have loved a one-handed sword class but alas was are just given ninja with longer daggers. Picto will be cool if it has a draw function or something. If it's just another class it looks really lame.
>Viper is massively disappointing. The animations look awful
you've only seen like 5-6 animations, and you have no idea how it actually plays. Calm down
>Picto will be cool if it has a draw function or something. If it's just another class it looks really lame.
the limited jobs sound like more your speed
>it's another "ESL troony doesn't understand the difference between fascism, militarism, authoritarianism, ethnocracy and an actual ethnostate and thinks that all that's required to use such labels is when the case in question broadly fits into a vague definition" episode
You don't know what any of those words mean, garlemald by definition is fascist considering the fact it's a literal authoritarian state that had a civil war just to decide its leader.
Garlemald is basically the soviet union, which was definitely a fascist authoritarian regime.
The only thing that could depose varis was zenos killing the shit out of him and once zenos got in power he could do whatever the frick he wanted.
>garlemald by definition is fascist considering the fact it's a literal authoritarian state that had a civil war just to decide its leader
That's not the definition of fascism, otherwise every monarchy that ever had a succession war (which is literally all of them, by the way) would be considered fascist.
>Powerful, often exclusionary, populist nationalism centered on cult of a redemptive, “infallible”
leader who never admits mistakes.
Pure blooded garleans are seen as superior, being able to use aether makes you a monster or savage in garlean eyes. This is all in canon
>Political power derived from questioning reality, endorsing myth and rage, and promoting lies.
Varis's whole speech falls into this about the one race(ancients) which doesn't even turn out to be true >Fixation with perceived national decline, humiliation, or victimhood.
How emet even got into power, we see this from the RPR job quest he pretty much used this line of thinking to justify the initial campaigns.
>Disdain for human rights while seeking purity and cleansing for those they define as part of the nation.
Every single garlean scientist actually and varis with the black rose shit
>Identification of “enemies”/scapegoats as a unifying cause. Imprison and/or murder opposition and minority
group leaders.
Eorzeans are savages again.
>Supremacy of the military and embrace of paramilitarism in an uneasy, but effective
collaboration with traditional elites. Fascists arm people and justify and glorify violence as “redemptive”.
I mean this one is just blatant.
I fricking hate that the FFXI alliance raid is gonna be like return to Ivalice. I don't understand why they don't handle all the referential stuff like they did with Crystal Tower. Make it feel like part of the owrld and not some opaque side shit that barely makes sense unless you played the original game.
they need to improve the visuals of Pictomancers spells, shits inexcusable >stone is just a blurry mess, looks like the mess of hair you'd pull out of a clogged sink >blizzard is a fullbright icicle with the same amount of polygons as the infamous grape >random ass moogle that doesn't look like paint that shoots a lazer that also doesn't look like paint, it's practically a BLU spell thrown in for no reason
shit's literally false advertisement with how much worse it looks than what's shown in the full trailer
Every DPS job in this game has either an obnoxious autism skinner box rotation, or moronproof 2 to 4 button babymode rotation.
So I'll be playing Gunbreaker again just like I've been doing since 5.0.
>Hiroi was previously stated to be writing Dawntrail(who's wirten nothing but mediocre trash like the Bard quests, only wrote a halfway decent story in Pandaemonium but it was bogged down by 90% standing around talking to Themis and Eric doing stock emotes, then bossfight, repeat over and over, showing that Hiroi can write a good story but is garbage at presentation) >Hiroi allegedly wrote post-6.0 and is responsible for the abomination that is Zero >Now it's stated that the still-unidentified writer of Werlyt and the writer of the Pixie/Dwarf beast tribe questlines (which are actually good, incredibly well presented and actually go out of their way to have some of the best custom-animations for cutscenes in the game)
What happened? Did enough people shit on the post-EW story and he got fired? Did Yoshi lie about Hiroi writing 7.0? What the frick happened?
>Hiroi (Sky Pirates, Pandaemonium kino) >Unnamed writer (Werlyt) >Supervised by Ishikawa
If they don't behave like utter chimp morons, it actually could be good. Hopefully, Ishikawa looming over them doesn't mean they have to keep forcing her fujoshit cat boyfriend.
Wasn't EW patches by writing interns loosely supervised by Ishikawa?
I'm so sick and tired of shitter nins who can't keep an eye on debuffs and keep canceling my mug. I pray viper gets rid of the shitter nins so us nins who actually enjoy and know our job can know peace from the mug canceling curse.
You stupid Black person. Trick is personal dmg buff and stacks. Mug is party/raid wide dmg buff that does not stack. 40 seconds of mug from two nins is better than 21 seconds of mug because the second nin is a moron canceling the first mug.
That's fair. Nin rotation can make you locked in. A 5% dmg increase for 20 seconds after everyone bursts does help out in the long run so I'm learning to wait as i still get mug from other nin for the burst.
>Hiroi (Sky Pirates, Pandaemonium kino) >Unnamed writer (Werlyt) >Supervised by Ishikawa
If they don't behave like utter chimp morons, it actually could be good. Hopefully, Ishikawa looming over them doesn't mean they have to keep forcing her fujoshit cat boyfriend.
Daily roulettes are a consistent daily income and you can put the tomestones from it towards a relic weapon (it will be best-in-slot in less than a week)
What do you enjoy doing? A lot of side content drops loot boxes that might get you some trinkets to sell on the marketboards, which is a nice bonus if you were going to run that content anyway. You can buy items used in crafting for tomestones of causality (20 tomes for the ones that are used in 640 gear) that you can then sell on the marketboard. They're only super expensive when the tier is new but I think most people are just grinding relics now so the prices might be decent.
Eureka and Bozja have the most obvious lootboxes, but Deep Dungeons have them too. Also you can sell stuff from Variant/Criterion dungeons. The only thing I can think of that's kinda hard to turn into a potential gil source is Gold Saucer.
Raids aren't that good, unless you get a rare orchestrion drop and I think those tend to be from the normal modes. Rarely people do parties where they offer to buy all the loot from a savage floor (usually the last one), or the mount from the extreme if it drops. Those can be pretty nice since people doing it are stupidly rich, and I've heard that if they clearly write the deal out in the game itself and have everyone agree to it you can then bug game masters to enforce it too if they try not to pay.
I've always disliked how FFXIV has treated the goddamn item mall ever since SB or so (ARR as I recall was fine - just old holiday stuff for $1-2 each that could also be unlocked when the holiday came round again and like 3 mounts that were related to a JP only live event like a fan fest or something etc) when it comes to cosmetics, but one thing that is equally if not more frustrating seems to be ongoing as well >Exclusive in-game content, mostly minions, tied to physical, limited item purchase like art books or soundtracks
Oh, would like like a Yotsuyu minion with her kiseru? Oh frick you unless you bought some artbook that's now out of print, or buy the code from someone who did. Frick. That. Shit. I'd consider it an acceptable compromise if these would come to the item mall a little while after they stop making the physical item or something, but they don't even seem to do that its just about fricking dickish exclusivity yet again. Someone said they were going to stop doing this after ShB, but no apparently the upcoming artbook has a Zodiark minion...and then it got worse
>BUY A STATUE FOR A GODDAMN EMOTE
$350 statue. and its allready fricking sold out. Okay, fine. No problem with collectables. But the majority of the shit on the pre-order page is about the goddamn item code...for a SINGLE CHARACTER? What the frick is wrong with these people. Look, if it turns out you can get this emote some other way in game then great I will retain fraction of a sliver of hope but this kind of shit is fricking infuriating otherwise.
statue emotes have always been limited to being bundled with the item itself
the sad thing is people just buy the emote and try to hawk the statue for like 4/5 the cost when you know damn well 99.99% of people who even consider buying this crap would pay the same amount for the emote alone
It's bullshit that they don't just sell the emote separately.
I spent $50 on Encyclopedia eorzea vol 2 just to get the Matoya hat. Never in hell would I spend $350 for a shitty copy pasted emote
The very idea of binding an item exclusively to a purchase of a physical thing, much less one so expensive, is repugnant. I'd be fine with it coming first with a purchase of something like that and included in its price, if it would soon arrive some other way - even being able to purchase it individually on an item mall or something.
Hell, for all WoW has done shitty in recent years one thing they've done worthy of at least some respect is that lots of old formerly card CCG related items from physical "loot" cards, are being granted other ways, including for stupid Twitch viewing or whatever. Its sad that for some/lots of the things that FFXIV does better than WoW especially these days , the one they do consistently worse is item mall cosmetic exclusives and similar exploitative monetization.
One thing I'm liking upon rewatching the trailer a few times is that there's no kind of serious or tearjerker shit in sight, it's all very bright, vibrant and hopeful. Honestly had enough of forging through despair and all that, seems like it's time for a good fun time in this expansion. Sure, I'm sure there will be some serious shit going down at some point but the tone this time going in is completely different than the last few expansions.
>g'raha is stuffing his fat fricking face >alphinaud is busy with Something >urianger is having a pina colada >thancred is failing to get his willy wet >alisaie doing a hip-swivel to impress WoL and gets a durian for her troubles >y'shtola does nothing important and gets interrupted by a squirrel >WoL is busy fighting gulool ja ja for fun
all is right with the world
>Why are ethnostates bad again?
They're not. >Should we import whites into kenya so it can be more multicultural?
No, but this is what Garlemald would do.
inevitably an ethnostate starts demanding cheap labor that its native population believes it's too good to be doing, but its native population will gladly take authoritative and military roles, fast-forward a bit and they sit around wondering why the slaves are snatching guns from their hands and turning them on their masters and all the ethnostate natives are too fat, moronic, or otherwise weak to do anything about it
hey, get this....what if the ethnostate didn't have slaves? And everyone was of the same ethnicity and moral values? And they were content with their borders based on ethnicity and didn't expand into other areas?
People want to work, they just want to be paid for it
*native population believes it's too good to be doing* is an awful libtard meme started by literal slavers
I've done far worse things than planting fruits, finishing the day with my nose completely filled with black dust from the sawmill
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah yeah very impressive honest work salt of the earth blah blah heard it a million times, anyways the whole reason Mexicans pick your vegetables is because white people won't do it that far down south.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Actually it's because globalist shitheads import cheap labor to keep costs down so they don't have to pay a proper wage to whites who actually have standards. Keep fighting for those workers at Starbucks, Eris (formerly Tom)!
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody "imported" Mexicans about twenty minutes away from the border you stupid roleplayer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Nobody "imported" Mexicans about twenty minutes away from the border
5 months ago
Anonymous
masterful gambit sir
5 months ago
Anonymous
He's a doom sissy its obvious because all the shitposting stopped when I started arguing with him, I'm just surprised he's also a /misc/ack. But that crowd of trancers try to be "le heckin good homosexuals!" so I'm not surprised.
5 months ago
Anonymous
starting a /misc/ argument is a really brainless but really effective way of completely snatching away a "shitposter"'s entire attention span
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He's a doom sissy its obvious because all the shitposting stopped when I started arguing with him
Actually it seems like the shitposting stopped because you started this trolling technique instead.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>it stopped because i started arguing >UMMM ACTUALLY IT STOPPED BECAUSE YOU STARTED ARGUING
you feeling ok?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>No you
Very compelling argument, but unlike you I like the game and don't have to spend every waking moment posting edited tweets or calling VPR and PCT dogshit jobs.
Okay, post your address. I'm coming to your house. The borders are open right?
Not how that works, a country is not a privately owned domicile. It is a collections of charters and borders governed by an institution of some kind.
Governments, ala post enlightenment era, cannot exclude citizenry off of the basis of immutable characteristics such as race.
It is a violation of human rights.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>but unlike you I like the game and don't have to spend every waking moment posting edited tweets or calling VPR and PCT dogshit jobs.
We were having a lore argument and this caused you to point at other people as "doom sissies" because you are in fact the "doom sissy" shitposter trying to start arguments and point fingers. You gave up the ghost when you started rambling about the Geneva Convention in regards to FFXIV lore dumbfrick.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>We were having a lore argument
We weren't having an argument, I shat on a moron for not understanding the basic narrative parallel between garlemald and an ethnostate.
He is still obviously a doom sissy RAT because I stunlocked him for two straight hours.
You can keep "No u-ing" me but the fact is that at the end of this I've made him so angry he'll probably use the images I posted and their hash to pretend to be me later on.
But I will always be there, in his mind, making him mald that he can't parse a simple stormblood cutscene the way it was meant to be written. Also I actually like XIV unlike cucky mchomosexual.
I AM THE JUDGE THAT SITS IN HIS MIND. RENT FREE.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You are severely ill.
5 months ago
Anonymous
severely ill yes but i have to agree he completely derailed le doomer train of thought, not much of a loss when he derailed the whole thread 450 posts or so in
5 months ago
Anonymous
He IS the shitposter. Look at how obvious he's making it letting the mask drop here at the end of the thread.
5 months ago
Anonymous
its not an ethnostate tho
you still haven't explained how it is one, other than the fact that you don't like ethnostates, and you don't like garlemald, so they must be the same because you are mentally ill
literally "TRUMP IS A FASCIST!" tier argument
5 months ago
Anonymous
>the basic narrative parallel between garlemald and an ethnostate.
Garlemald isn't an ethnostate, it's one of several globalist monocultures the game features to showcase the failing points of such a thing. Every single globalist monoculture in the game ends in disaster because they don't have the diversity of thought to deal with problems outside their way of thinking.
5 months ago
Anonymous
he has no argument to this because it shatters his irl political beliefs
very funny to see >THERES NO WAY THE AMERICAN EMPIRE CAN LOSE >OF COURSE PEOPLE WANT TO BE PART OF OUR GLOBALIST DEMOCRACY
post-ww2 america is literally garlemald
holy shit
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He's coping now with just babble
Feel free to refute me with any FACTS that align with both the definition of ethnostate and garlemalds conscription system.
Until then you can keep oinking homosexual. Rent free by the way.
5 months ago
Anonymous
If garlemald is an ethnostate, than so is the modern United States of America, and so is the Soviet Union, and so is The Roman Empire
you can dislike multiple things at once, anon
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure they all ended in disaster because the player is a god-slaying mercenary who got hired by the other side first.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The Enlightenment was a disaster for the human race, pretty much every idea it had was wrong
5 months ago
Anonymous
>they didn't import them, they just illegally hired them for pennies on the dollar thus providing them the incentive they needed to illegally hop the border
Kek get fricking real
5 months ago
Anonymous
if they're twenty minutes away from the border they were probably already there in the first place before the orange farmers hired them for five cents an hour, same shit as mexicali with white folk rolling in and saying they've always been there while the brown potato-sack looking guys in the background look at them and try to ignore the cities being named los angeles and san francisco
5 months ago
Anonymous
They will if you pay them for the work, perfect work for students and young adults
We also don't have Mexicans in Canada, not much anyway, you don't need your slaaaaaves
5 months ago
Anonymous
Shoveling out goat pens all day is another fun one. With all the powdered goat shit and piss you're breathing in, even after blowing out your nose like a trumpet and showering thoroughly you can still smell it from inside your sinuses all evening long.
>play a female character >always like using the job-specific gear on the early patches >they make the pictomancer a bawd showing off her belly
Makes me kind of mad. I'd expect this from dancer but now I can't be a job-gear caster without her looking like some ERP bawd
for all the /misc/tard in the thread probably has a marble bust avatar on twitter, started calling it "X" within an hour of musk renaming it and begs for a RETVRN, the roman empire is an excellent example of a society where becoming or desiring to be an ethnostate would have been totally and completely rejected and ridiculed
He's a doom sissy its obvious because all the shitposting stopped when I started arguing with him, I'm just surprised he's also a /misc/ack. But that crowd of trancers try to be "le heckin good homosexuals!" so I'm not surprised.
Intense mental illness on display here.
A country is not an ethnostate if it forces the citizenship process on conquered peoples, by the way.
It is if the process is unlawful and not guaranteed and requires you to be a POW conscript moron.
That is literally the definition of a war crime lmao.
>It is if the process is unlawful
Well it's not unlawful in Garlemald, since Garlemald isn't the real world. >and requires you to be a POW conscript
They're not POWs, they just conscripts from subdued nations. Stop using words you don't understand the meaning of. >That is literally the definition of a war crime lmao.
This may surprise you but there isn't even a country called Geneva on Etheirys, troll-kun.
I'm more excited for Beastmaster even though it's gonna be an exclusive job like Blue Mage, and I never even leveled Blue Mage.
they're both kinda crap looking, honestly
I hope the jobs I already play get neat buttons
I'll try them out
>another melee job with no real identity or niche
>another caster with a forced identity and no rez
It's bad. No one is going to play them.
>forced identity
What in the actual frick does this even mean
just another meaningless doomposter meme
If you actually watched the fanfest JP is super excited for picto
Newsflash nobody cares about your epic first week 28 hours a day raid progression
>another melee job with no real identity or niche
ironically this is exactly what makes viper a class people want. the one thing this game was really missing from the list of standard rpg classes was just stock warrior dps man. I've seen a lot of people complain that they played rogue and then got a little peeved that instead of dual wielding you mostly do ninja magic because they aren't final fantasy oldgays that know ninja was mostly about casting spells and doing weird supporting stuff aka how it plays in this game
>another melee job with no real identity or niche
We haven't even seen its major gimmick yet you gay lord, but even then it fixes the ninja issue.
>it fixes
The shill is here.
So true, golbez armor albeit?
have a nice day rogue gay
But what of the no cat ear hood?
no wood in cheesie burger
>the ninja issue
wowgay words
>another melee job with no real identity or niche
Viper actually does fill a niche, though. A lot of people want to play a rogue without any of the ninja magic shit. We're going to see the same thing in the expansion after Dawntrail when they finally introduce a bow-wielding class that isn't tied to bard's goofy minstrel aesthetic.
>finally introduce a bow-wielding class that isn't tied to bard's goofy minstrel aesthetic.
I always thought they'd add a "hunter" themed job at some point that uses big crossbows
I mean, Viper IS a hunting job. Ironically it's I think the only Job-Job that even has a basis in hunting, as even something like Bard is the aforementioned minstrel output that de-emphasized the Archer origins, unless you consider Dragoons as strictly intended for dragon hunting.
Dancer is about hunting for semen.
I also thought crossbows seemed like an obvious pick. Maybe that plus a more "low-tech gadget" sort of vibe (traps, poisons, etc.), similar to the artificer/tempest archer classes from dragon age
>Can be a rogue
>Can be a pirate
>Can be an armored swordsman
>Can just be a duelist too
I'm glad they added this, as much as I like a lot of the jobs in XIV, some of the animations are way too themed, but I get that outside of dragoon it's really hard to make something like MCH or BRD look like their respective inspirations without making them look completely generic.
One is going to be designed for morons and the other for women.
What's the difference?
One is gayer
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If the Ancients wanted to keep being not sundered they should have gotten gud and had their almighty god smite Venat, simple as, They lost so they were wrong.
True.
literally etoile from pso2 but final fantasized and the worst party member from 6 as a job....yeah hard pass
>PSO2 invented dual blades and twinsabers
Why is this site full of morons equivalent to places like Faceberg?
Venat was a white woman, she turned people into animals to frick them.
Picto good. Viper meh
Viper is okay, I'll try it out.
Pictomancer doesn't appeal to me at all, but I don't hate its existence. It's just one of those jobs I'm fine with existing, but don't plan to play myself.
Pictomancer looks kino
Viper looks like shit
Both look like they would bore me after 5 minutes and make me go back to ninja
And a dattebayo to you too, my fellow weebbro.
>Athene is coming back for 11.0
>Swifty is coming back for 11.0
>Elliot Rodger is coming back for 11.0
>Maye is coming back for 11.0
>Reckful is coming back for 11.0
>Bothero is coming back for 11.0
>moot is coming back for 11.0
>DiscordianKitty is coming back for 11.0
>SsethTzeentach is coming back for 11.0
>Chris Metzen is coming back for 11.0
>GimpyTheAce is coming back for 11.0
>Valentine is coming back for 11.0
>Hamlette is coming back for 11.0
>Ralph is coming back for 11.0
>Asmongold is coming back for 11.0
>Zepla is coming back for 11.0
>Kralnor is coming back for 11.0
>Jesse McCree is coming back for 11.0
>Bobby Kotick is coming back for 11.0
>Michael-Christopher Koji Fox is coming back for 11.0
>Ezra Chatterton is coming back for 11.0
>pezado is coming back for 11.0
>Bellular is coming back for 11.0
>Jesse Cox is coming back for 11.0
>Markiplier is coming back for 11.0
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>Steve Danuser is coming back for 11.0
>Tseric is coming back for 11.0
>Paragon is coming back for 11.0
>Preach is coming back for 11.0
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>Magnianon is coming back for 11.0
>Gurgthock is coming back for 11.0
>PewDiePie is coming back for 11.0
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wow won
Gee, I wonder how many of them will roll their new troony dwarf race.
Have you never met any of these characters Are they some side quest npc since I skip them?
kek i thought these were ingame NPCs and you were saying they'd be in 11.0 for some reason but then i realized they were IRL NPCs
to be honest I would be fricking great if all eceleb homosexualry would frick off from xiv
it was way better without them
I miss the days when the only eceleb talk was people mocking brappy.
Eh for the most part is has, with the only real streamers being fricking Baldman and Japanese english speaking man.
Casters are eating good, maybe Viper will be fast like MNK or something
>uwu weapon
lmfao
this smug gremlin should beat the shit out of me
sexually
I'll play Viper just to be contrarian.
>Viper to be contrarian
Most of the people I talk to far prefer Viper over Pictomancer.
It's a dual wielding sword class, it's going to have plenty of players.
>stuck with shitty scouting gear
Don't think so. If it was on maiming I would agree with you.
Eh? Most people are going to be VPR on launch.
I'm gonna be picking up DRG first thing myself, curious about the rework and the new AF looks sexy
Viper seems super bland. Pictomancer looks fine, but I don't like playing casters. Honestly I'm most excited to see how they'll frick AST up this time around.
you mean drg
I can't play DRG. I've got too much muscle memory from the other melee and tanks. 5 button combos just feel wrong.
don't worry it's getting turned into smn or rpr levels of braindead soon
Don't care, I still won't be playing it beyond getting it to 100 at some point.
dragoon is literally 12345678 rotation. it can't get simpler.
Make it 1-2-3 looped, add in 4-5 every minute then a 6 every two minutes. Positionals are also removed.
>Positionals are also removed.
I'll be genuinely surprised if they still exist at all.
Same. I like positionals, but it looks like CBU3 is eager to nix them. They already soft-nixed them anyway.
I don't think they will be removed. You still deal with them in fights like p11 and 12. Obviously platform wide bosses like pandemonium they are gone.
I'd be all for positional removal if that means the bosses we fight will become harder.
Why are they even changing DRG? It is the most stable DPS there is. You literally do 1234 rinse repeat on an endless loop. There is nothing to manage as they made the gauge a passive. Maybe have to keep an eye out for gaze stacking up with burst but that is it.
Probably because there's no way to iterate on it anymore, and because the job fantasy isn't as strong as it perhaps could be.
Beastmaster kino incoming
VPRbros... we lost
Once again, Krile wins
do you have the one with the pandemonium face?
No, I wish I did now
Very very interested in Viper after it was caught that the twinblade thing is not a "spender stance" because it doesn't have any buff particles flying about when it's done
Pictomancer seems neat but little or nothing about how it plays was gleaned from it (this is par for reveal trailers, really) so I'll refrain from judgment on it
the mage one looks cute, what is it?
Pictomancer.
Paints its abilities with a brush.
noice
Pictomancer, draws to use magic
Seen copying Blizzard IV, Stone IV, Thunder and Fire, summons a moogle to shoot a laser beam from one of the Mog bosses and "paints a landscape," Yoshida says it'll revolve around very long casts and instant casts
If it has "very long casts" it may end up with the single biggest damage button in the game (though obviously won't be top overall DPS)
>If it has "very long casts" it may end up with the single biggest damage button in the game
>single biggest damage button in the game
How we coping BLMbros ?
Coping about what? Ninja gods were always better than you
By shitting out more overall damage as always
I guess we'll "cope" by still being the highest dps class.
I doubt they'll make anything with a longer cast time than flare
yoship will never let anything top blm
expect maybe BLM 2
featuring a favorited lalafell
favorized, not favorited
God I hope not. I so fricking tired of them giving every job a big 1k+ potency attack. It makes your dps so rng reliant. You can play way better than someone else, but if they crit their big attack and you don't it literally doesn't matter and they'll out dps you anyway.
>Yoshida says it'll revolve around very long casts and instant casts
Sounds like blackmage
It does seem closer in general intent to Black Mage or Red Mage than it does to Summoner despite its actual power workings being closer to Summoner
Would have prefered Corsair and Time Mage.
>not Runefencer and Geomancer
I would have fricking knelt if Mystic Knight was the caster but Pictomancer looks much neater than I thought I would. Gotta be honest I completely shitcanned any thought of Pictomancer because Relm is supremely boring in FF6.
Krile becoming a Time Mage would have made a lot more sense since her grandfather was Galuf.
If Lyon doesn't make an appearance in the Beastmaster quests I'm going to be pissed.
>How we feeling about the new jobs?
idk ask me when my 120s button is available again. XIV jobs are so boring
If Pictomancer doesn't have a fun little mode to paint pictures in the game like Bard has the ability to play instruments, then I'm dropping it.
boring. the only new job I've cared about since HW was SGE
Why did Venat have a few fake scutscenes in Endwalker? By that I mean cutscenes showing things that never happened.
The final days aspect of EW was rushed in at the last second. The original plans were for a Garlean expansion. So they didn't have time to actually pace out the full events leading up to the Sundering or to make a proper cutscene for the battle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark.
EW really is a mess like that, the start of the expansion and the end feel like two completely different things.
The final days/elpis stuff is way more fleshed out than anything with garlemald. Them scrapping all the garlemald legion shit with Bozja and Werlyt made it clear EW wasn't going to be a Garlean expansion for a long time
>The original plans were for a Garlean expansion.
Honestly given how badly they handled Garlemald in the story, maybe it's better they skipped it.
>noooo you have to feel sorry for these mass-murdering psychos who spent the last four expansions trying to slaughter everyone else in the world
That's only been happening during the last 30 years or so, Garleans were oppressed for hundreds if not thousands of years before that, something people love to ignore.
Garlean expansion would have been feasible if doma and ala mhigo hadn't been crammed into a single expansion with almost zero difference in how they were handled narratively
May as well ask why Elidibus got a metaphorical cutscene when explaining where WoL started
That was explained though, it's because his memory is mostly gone and he's actually a primal working off memories imbued by his original self.
Wrong thing entirely, Elidibus reaching out and grasping Amano's WoL from behind was a metaphorical cutscene
>Elidibus reaching out and grasping Amano's WoL from behind was a metaphorical cutscene
No it wasn't, the Amano WoL was an early Azem reincarnation from whom he got the idea when he sniffed the salvation-scented faith being directed toward him. He comments on him still fighting for the world even after being sundered.
Yeah the featureless black void wasn't metaphorical, uh huh
That's because his memory is fricked. He only remembers bits and pieces.
Quit being stupid just to disagree with me
I'm sorry you couldn't understand the thing that was explained to you in plain English.
I'm sorry I have to read your posts and be wrongly corrected on which of two metaphors is actually a metaphor while I'm snowed in on a Friday night
There's no metaphor, the scene actually happened, it's just that the details were forgotten.
it just happened except nothing in it actually happened because the narrator is a lunatic
It's really surprising that you somehow can't differentiate between "I can't remember exactly how it happened because my implanted memories are being overwritten" and "I made it up".
it's really surprising you keep beating the dead horse when even far more dedicated shitposters have gotten bored of their own topic by now
Because Yoshit did not want to show her crimes..
Because they didn't want to animate all the way from the start of the Final Days to the Sundering.
You know the Sundering didn't happen instantly, right? At least two sacrifices took place, with probably plenty of time between those sacrifices as well in order to discuss the specifics and get people together.
>what is cinematography
>you will be covered in oil
>no....the oil....its leaking out...help!
man hermes really messed up
>birb stubs a toe
>OMINOUS LATIN
>someone didn't pay their taxes on time
>OMINOUS LATIN
>the egg was uncooked
>you better believe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JyVPYtIffs
They did it better in Shadowbringers.
Zodiark cum
>tfw still have to wait another year post DT so i can new game+ the story with new graphics
>he doesn't know
they're not retroactively adding the graphics update to earlier patches
yes they are moron, they've literally said that older stuff will be applied at a separate time over patches
It's sequential. 7.0 launches with itself being updated and selective bits of earlier content, mostly ARR presumably, before they'll gradually work with each expansion until it's all updated. It could take a while or it could be their equivalent of updating the game with the Trusts throughout EW.
The question is: how many patches will it take? Will they do two expansions a patch, or one?
For example, will they start with EW and ARR done in 7.0, then do HW and ShB in 7.1 and SB in 7.2?
Or will it be EW and ARR done in 7.0, HW in 7.1, SB in 7.2, ShB in 7.3?
Or will it be one per patch, but there's gap patches, so 2 and 4 don't have any updates?
My bet is on HW 7.2, SB 7.3, ShB 7.5
i think it'll be more spread out, consider how much fricking content they're trying to squeeze into DT
I'd say every 2nd patch
7.2, 7.4, 7.55 or 8.0
too much for shadowbabs to grasp
ZODIARK TRANCE
Calm it down.
ryne
ShB > ARR > HW > EW > SB > DT
Best to worst cinematic trailer
swap ARR with ShB and you're on the money. agree that DT is the worst though
DT > SB
No the stormblood trailer was great. The first part had so much speculation about who the red woman was and if she was a dancer, seeing Ala Mhigo for the first time was hype and the out of reveal of the Far East drove people mad. You had the tease of underwater stuff and garleans in nip armor., All without revealing any of the story particulars. DT has had nothing to speculate about and the full trailer didn't expand anything other than what the two new jobs are and Wuk The hypest thing about it was "Wooh beach episode expac" from the initial teaser. The full trailer taking place entirely in the same location and just showing a bridge tot he other half of the expansion without an actual flythrough or tease of what's over there is stupid too.
the cgi kinda sucks and the music is boring and the action is kinda lame. DT looks better, sounds better, and is about the same level of action quality
SB literally had the best music after ARR what
lol no
Better than shb buttrock
Yeah, seems like I guessed right
STORM OF BLOOD, BORN FROM BLOOD, OF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS
god, the EW trailer was so good
All the best parts were SB related, curious.
Nah, my favorite part of the EW trailer was the HW part.
Even if I don't care much for the actual HW cinematic.
HW cinematic was kinda meh, and the humans looked weird, but I loved the environments. The Ishgard inn looked so comfy
I know people don't like the DT trailer, which is fair, but you can tell how far the cinematic department has gotten, it is easily the best looking on a technical level
I think the DT trailer is fine. It just isn't amazing, and I liked the first part far more than the second.
And it's just hard to beat ARR/ShB/EW for me.
ShB was DT tier, wol fighting some random thing for 90% of it and a city for the rest of it
I can see why you would say that, sure.
Are there any non-katana swords for SAM?
There are some cavalry sabers.
Pvp Katana of Althyk is pretty awesome.
Ghost Barque Katana/Kagehide/Deepgold Blade/Flame Captain samurai weapon are all the same model and a cavalry saber
Katana of Althyk and Tsukuyomi's Chokuto are, well, chokutos, non-curved blades
Palaka Tulwar
Shin-Zantetsuken (comes in a DRK version under the same name, make sure you're buying the right one)
Bokuto, Gold Saucer
Crystarium and Rinascita Samurai Blade are cavalry sabers with the same model
Ravel Keeper's Blade and Gunromaru/The Unsullied Skies are both cane-swords and have no tsuba or hand-guard (zatoichi style, don't get excited and think I mean a European style cane-sword)
Wave Katana has a cavalry saber's handguard
Ravel Keeper's is a shashka
Try the Crystarium sword from ShB tomes
Man Yoshi P really took the whole "weeb job" jab personally huh?
I don't play whatever the frick this game is but goddamn is this an insanely overdesigned character.
The dude on the right in black is fine. But this chick (I think it's a chick?) looks too busy in her design.
That's because she's an adaptation of a literal Yoshitaka Amano design, basically taking Relm from FF6 and then throwing a coat on top. If you've seen the FF4 armorsets from the endgame of EW, the same amount of overdesigned bullshit is there because adapting Amano artwork to 3D always looks fricked.
>Amano artwork to 3D always looks fricked
I want a couple of words with you.
>Cecil with AA cup breasts
Only thing she did wrong was not leaving enough of herself behind to journey with you.
I have some news for you my brother.
This girl was born years before Hydaelyn died. You Venatgays are really grasping at straws.
>Venat is literally a body snatcher like an ascian
Looks nothing alike and makes zero sense, moron.
Correctamundo.
You cope too hard.
Not true
>Elidibus was so butthurt over Venat's betrayal that he not only swiped the status of Warrior of Light to manipulate people to his own ends while vaunting that he was the hero, he literally stole her face
Did Elidibus even know who Venat was?
Of course, She was the previous Azem, who wouldn't know her?
someone with god alzheimer's
Yes, the primal Elidibus was the mediator for the debates between the two factions.
It fits as its supposed to be a whimsical job, and people have wanted something like this for a long time. It's always been a Final Fantasy thing to have a cartoonish and cheerful class/character to offset the melodrama
The closest we had to it currently is Dancer
So are Primals/Eikons retired or will they show up here too.
Valigarmanda is probably a primal
it's actually pretty easy to make a primal.
didn't they say at some point that they were gonna rework overwork fates across all zones to be more like bozja with CEs?
or did i have some sort of schizo dream of this?
I fricking wish
frick, why is it burned into my brain as a prominent memory
The later.
Schizo dream, or rather you're mixing up a semi-common Ganker complaint from the same guy or guys with the fact we are getting a Bozja-Eureka zone next expac
you're just getting something that's more like Bozja for DT, that's all
honestly Field Operations doesn't sound very "instanced exploratory zone" content to me, makes me wonder what they're cooking
picto: owo kawaii e-girl job, literally just Dancer but mage. now you get to simp for both getting dance partner and model.
viper: I am the bone of my sword, steel is my body and fire is my blood-
This round of new jobs are so underwhelming.
>Viper
Shit name. Like the weapons, but I hope not all of them are going to be small. Don't like the Blue Aura from the job trailer. Of the "3" DT jobs, it's the one I hope is the best designed
>Pictomancer
Wasn't a fan of the concept from the get go (Beastmaster from Wish) and the job trailer didn't do shit to change my mind. Most likely hit Cap then drop it.
>Beastmater
Limited, so useless the majority of the time and and going to gather dust just like Blue Mage. Not worth picking up the Job Stone.
imo the sound effects for viper feel lackluster
First they said Hrothgar/viera would be the final races added. Recently, they just said new races would depend on the fans. How do you go about designing an original race that is appealing to people?
Burmecians
You could go around making concepts that can fit the general skeletons since they're prioritizing that first and foremost, and then polling. Because frankly it's obvious they were unprepared for the actual workload of Viera and Hrothgar the way things played out.
never ever
mouse girls, lala sized
"New races will depend on you guys" strikes me as they've largely figured out what's holding viera and hrothgar back, especially with male viera having a skeleton and features that are much better suited to actually, you know, wearing hats
I can't see any more beastBlack person races happening though since hrothgar are so unpopular and any more beastly races would add onto the existing lore violation + take away from hrothgar's uniquity as a bestial race
We need a cute and sexy race that isn't potato tier
>spazkid finally drew a pic of sybil
There is nothing wrong with liking furry girls
Make them half-elves a la Hilda.
If they introduced half-elves to this game, nobody would ever play Elezen again. It's the same reason they'll never give Highlander males eyebrows, it would basically eliminate male Midlanders from the game.
Something like the Salarians from Mass Effect might be interesting. We've had lizards, why not have frogs?
*shit, wrong pic
(Krogan would be cool too though)
>(Krogan would be cool too though)
Kroegadyn.
They're gonna have either magic garlenigs or genomes in Sol9 and there's no feasible reason for them to not be playable unless we torch the place
Genomes would be an insanely good choice, Zidane clan somewhere around midlander height or slightly shorter and a Kuja clan somewhere around highlander height or slightly shorter
>race of femboys with monkey tails
Nice.
There's a decent chance Solution 9 isn't even real. If the entire thing is digital then it makes perfect sense why the people inside wouldn't be playable.
moth girls
god i fricking wish
moth girls are too based for any developer to make them a playable race
If they add another race it should be on the smaller side. Not necessarily lalafell-sized, but maybe something between that and a hyur. Like gnome > dwarf > human in other settings in terms of size.
>want
Burmecians
>likely to be added
Lupin
I have an idea. Since we have fur humans, scaley humans, lets add Feathered humans too. They will be some semi garuda type thing that has a beak for a nose and hawk eyes. Make them less serious looking and give them indian cultural backgrounds.
sorry anon, yoshi-p said no more races after femhroths
You shouldn't trust what he says
Being confident enough to even suggest the possibility of more races sounds like Viera/Hrothgar aren't a problem anymore tbh
It's not really an issue of developing armor for them from now on if they just use the same body types or implemented the autofitting tech from 1.0 to speed it up. It really just comes down to taking many people off of something for a long time just to make a race. Which takes away from something else.
No no no not that, the whole hat and helmet thing
I mean thats more to do with the design of the races heads and their ears. If thet just stick with round headed human heads and no ears shooting up, it should be fine.
I think small bird people based on owls or flightless birds would be cute. We need another short race and they rpobably won't add anything super bestial again so fishmen are out. That or plant people like the lilty, they'd need to differentiate them alot from lalafell tho
Instead of adding new races, add more customization options to the existing races. As someone who cares a lot about my WoL's lore and race, fantaing to a new race doesn't sit right with me. So adding more options would be both less work and more appealing to the fanbase
do both. This game makes more than enough to do that.
>add more customization options to the existing races.
yoship said they were looking into that twice now since DT development began
the second time was just recently
won't be in 7.0 or 7.x, though. maybe 8.0?
how hard can it be to add a fricking face or maybe a fricking color wheel bruh
and of course, we're never going to get a hair that goes down past the torso, cuz of le clipping (even though everything clips anyways)
>how hard can it be to add a fricking face
hard
>or maybe a fricking color wheel bruh
less hard. depends on how their underlying foundation is. that said, I don't feel like XIV has ever been lacking in terms of color choice. if there's anything xiv has a dearth of, it's of course faces like you mentioned, but also stuff like beards and scars and all that. Also stuff like horns and beards being tied to specific faces.
with what they've shown off with their faces having the same amount of polys between almost all races to the point of being able to morph between them, I wonder how unrealistic facial sliders and the like would be
>and of course, we're never going to get a hair that goes down past the torso
keep the faith, brother
ill keep hoping that one day this hair gets added and its longer than it seems
in pso2 i had hair that went down to my fricking ankles, sure it clipped everywhere but it made me look cool as frick, xiv already has crazy glams so they might as well go all the way imo
Hopefully, they get over their dumb fear of clipping and just let players choose if they want to endure it.
A lot of shit already clips, anyway. Ever seen gear with a high collar? Most hair, not even the super long styles, cli pwith that.
exactly
im pretty sure thats just the excuse they use to be lazy
I think they just don't realize or accept how dissonant they are being.
Never ever
thank god, ugly as sin race
Half of my party was Baanga in FFTA. Loved it.
I'm kinda stressing about this, how quickly can you get Viper from 80 to 90 after the expac drops? Really want to play through as one but don't want to fall too far behind
Assuming the instance queues aren't broken, you should be able to do it in about 5 hours in Bozja.
>5 hours
oh...
homie that's gonna be how long it takes to get to 92 in the msq
yea but I'll actually be doing the MSQ, not mindlessly grinding in an instance
>no bozja type thing to grind
>only possibility is Eureka Orthos
>it's hell to run and takes forever
>only other options are FATEs or bogged down low XP Bozja farming
how about just running dungeons like a normal person
>running old dungeons when 2 new DPS jobs drop
were you born moronic?
homie just stack your punch cards and roulettes
if you really care you can just preorder play the 3 days before all the sprouts can
What are you even talking about literally everyone preorders?
>just preorder
everyone already does this, there's no difference in queues between "early access" and the full release
>lorebook mention Elidibus was the only one permitted to wear a white robe since it marked his impartiality as emissary of the Convocation
>Venat got to wear a white robe because she's Venat
Venat gets to wear one because she's a retired Convocation member, I'm pretty sure the lorebook brings that up
I mean maybe she got kicked out because of that
She's very convincing
She's a heretic who refused to kill herself after leaving the convocation.
there's no mandate you have to have a nice day. You just wander around doing shit until you're ready to leave
Maybe there's no mandate but they'll still act like little c**ts if you don't voluntarily off yourself. They kinda remind of vaxxers.
Looks better on her, deal with it elidibussy.
Best girl being best girl. You know how it goes.
she was no longer part of the convocation
she very clearly rebelled against societal norms, with how she didn't return to the star and all
>NOOOOOO WHY AREN'T YOU FRICKING KILLING YOURSELF YOUR PURPOSE IS FULFILLED
>MOOOOOOOOOOM AZEM WON'T KILL HERSELF
Why were the Amaurotines such moronic communists
amaurot was a giant globohomosexual metaphor
More like a hyper-collectivist society. Like Japan but worse.
bruh this game straight out says globalization and mono-cultures are bad
Do I have to shit on you AGAIN about how garlemald is an ethnostate? holy frick.
you'll never guess what the entire point of varis's "just let us conquer you lmao" speech was and how it feeds into garlemald being the ascians' puppet nation exactly like allag was
Why do you make me do this again. Garlemald is an ethnostate it actively annexes neighboring territory and turns them into satellite states that are beholden to direct garlean control.
On top of that you cannot become a legalized garlean citizen unless you serve in the army, are a traitor to your nation state(even this isn't concrete), have some sort of highly specialized skill, or are given specialized status by a legatus.
There isn't a single eorzean "garlean" that has a civilian title, they all have military titles as they are all conscripts or military personal. Not normal members of society. So garlemald is an ethnostate.
>Garlemald is an ethnostate it actively annexes neighboring territory and turns them into satellite states that are beholden to direct garlean control.
That's not what an ethnostate means, you fricking idiot. Was Napoleonic France an ethnostate? Was the Soviet Union?
By your logic France was an ethnostate until the 70s because the foreign legion was the only way to get citizenship
It sounds like you don't know what an ethnostate actually is.
>On top of that you cannot become a legalized garlean citizen unless you serve in the army
Asahi was literally picked up by an officer who went around Doma collecting kids to be given an education, and he was working for the government by the time he finished school. He was the highest ranking ambassador in the country.
>have some sort of highly specialized skill
Garlemald literally goes out of its way to give educations to foreigners.
The ENTIRE mission statement of Garlemald is to induct other races and people into their 'progressive' way of thinking and the security of the empire. How many times does the game have to beat you over the head with its "MONOCULTURE BAD" theme?
see
Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
>Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
Jenomis's wife, who was Hyuran.
Sure, can you show me entire name and title?
Tia Lexentale, she was either a cen like her husband or a bas like her children.
>Garlemald literally goes out of its way to give educations to foreigners.
...Yes nationalist education on the glory of the state of garlemald....after conquering their country.
No his station was a military station. It was the highest station a non-garlean born aan could receive without special permissions.
"sas: Tribunus angusticlavius, assumes command of a secondary unit if a legion is split. Praefectus castrorum, leader of a castrum and the highest rank attainable by a citizen of non-Garlean ancestry."
>...Yes nationalist education on the glory of the state of garlemald....after conquering their country.
No? It's practical education. You're literally just making shit up now.
>No his station was a military station.
Because he was an ambassador. Most aspects of Garlean society are related to the military in some manner to begin with. Even engineers have a military title. You can't call a nation an ethnostate if it makes a habit of inducting outside ethnicities into seats of office.
>No? It's practical education. You're literally just making shit up now.
No I'm not? play stormblood again you moron.
>Because he was an ambassador. Most aspects of Garlean society are related to the military in some manner to begin with.
Source??? also no? there are specific titles for non-military citizens.
cen: Civis fabrilis, artisans and other citizens working on manufacturing.
bas: Civis mercatus, merchants and other citizens working on services. Civis fundamine, citizens working on collecting raw materials.
All foreigners are required to be conscripted to lose their title of aan and even then they will most likely either die in the field or be promoted to a higher military title. Asahi's situation is incredibly special, and even then he was forced to conscript and ended up with a military title. You can assume he was naturalized but to act like every doman child was adopted by garlean misers would still imply they were forced into conscription.
Forcing foreigners into conscription guarantees that foreigners will gain citizenship, education, AND military training and weapons. None of which are things any ethnostate would grant to people who are not part of the ethnicity. It also guarantees that foreigners will hold positions of power, which we saw on many occasions in the game with characters like Asahi and the Gabranths. You're a joke.
>He thinks it's totally a fair form of immigration that you have to serve as an active conscript for 20+ just to be allowed in.
>He thinks high situational cases of legatus favoritism
>Koji reaction image
Doom sissy....why are you so DOGSHIT at this. You might be worse than the guy from before I talked to about this.
By every standard by which we define an ethnostate what you're describing would be an ethnostate, you are essentially creating a system where 98% of your conscripts will not be able to obtain citizenship.
A 20 year + war term where you are way more likely to be under active duty pretty much guarantees your death. We see this with the doman conscripts in the role quest who all pretty much fricking DIED serving garlemald.
>He thinks it's totally a fair form of immigration that you have to serve as an active conscript for 20+ just to be allowed in.
Yes, real life used to be like that as well, before it went to shit
Depends on what country you're talking about. In the US, before Congress started passing immigration quota laws in the 1920s, the only other restriction on immigration was the Chinese Exclusion Act (passed in the 1880s). As long as you weren't Chinese, you could literally just show up.
>A 20 year + war term where you are way more likely to be under active duty pretty much guarantees your death.
Not necessarily, a lot of those soldiers would just be on random guard/patrol duty. And with a military as advanced as Garlemald's, a massive portion of your total troop numbers would be in non-combat roles, the same as pretty much any modern military. Someone has to move supplies, repair the magitek armor, cook the food, etc. .
>He thinks it's totally a fair form of immigration that you have to serve as an active conscript for 20+ just to be allowed in.
This is incorrect. Garlemald doesn't only 'allow' people into its borders. It forces them in. And then it forces them to undergo the process which will grant full rights of citizenship.
>He thinks high situational cases of legatus favoritism
Which legatus favored Asahi? Are you somehow under the impression that military conscription is a special favor offered to select people, and not something forced on all men of fighting age?
>Koji reaction image
It's appropriate because you're losing a lore argument.
>Doom sissy
Holy frick you are broken.
>By every standard by which we define an ethnostate what you're describing would be an ethnostate
No, there is no ethnostate that fits Garlemald's behavior. Garlemald literally FORCES citizenship upon foreign peoples. It is the opposite of an ethnostate. It's a globalist monoculture, which the game has several different disastrous examples of to show why such a thing is fricking stupid.
>you are essentially creating a system where 98% of your conscripts will not be able to obtain citizenship.
Garlean warfare is typically done through machina and carpet bombing.
>This is incorrect. Garlemald doesn't only 'allow' people into its borders. It forces them in. And then it forces them to undergo the process which will grant full rights of citizenship.
Yes they annex/conquer them but they never join the garlemald nation proper. Aan will always be aan, even if a legatus tells you otherwise we know this culturally with how fordola was treated.
>Which legatus favored Asahi?
Asahi was conscripted by an officer, he was in the military before he met Zenos dumb dumb, we literally see Zenos save his ass which is why he fell in love with him.
>Incoherent cope.
>Garlean warfare is typically done through machina and carpet bombing.
What the frick does this have to do with anything? do you think they used pure bloods as ground fodder you dense moron? the brunt of who you fight in ARR are conscripts. Which is funny because Gaius is painted as the nicer of the legatus's.
>Yes they annex/conquer them but they never join the garlemald nation proper.
Wrong, we meet several characters that prove this wrong. Rhitatyn is a great example because his loyalty toward Garlemald comes from how the quality of his homeland improved greatly.
>Asahi was conscripted by an officer
Uh, yeah. All conscripts are conscripted by an officer. That's how it works. So which legatus favored him to allow him to skip the 20 years of service?
>do you think they used pure bloods as ground fodder you dense moron?
No, the majority of the military in general is made of conscripts. Which again guarantees that foreigners will end up in positions of power, with education and with military training and weapons. Which proves that Garlemald is not an ethnostate.
>Rhitatyn is a great example because his loyalty toward Garlemald comes from how the quality of his homeland improved greatly.
....Which we never see in game and which contrast both doma and dalmasca, also still doesn't change that they are annexed and conquered aan territories. One guy being like "Yeah garlemald is based actually" doesn't change or refute anything I've said.
>Uh, yeah. All conscripts are conscripted by an officer. That's how it works.
Play stormblood again, asahi was a child when he was conscripted a child when he saw Yotsuyuu being abused, unless you know exact ages based on the lore he was 7 when conscripted and then gained citizenship.
>No, the majority of the military in general is made of conscripts. Which again guarantees that foreigners will end up in positions of power
Except they are only ever able to obtain ambassadorial roles, curious, aslo
>Aan are most likely to be cannon fodder
>This somehow means they are the most likely to live....because...reasons!
Compelling argument. Frontline fighters are always the first to die moron, do you think it was common for trench shooters to come back home during WW I? no it's why the euphemism "in the trenches" means you're either fricked or in a bad situation.
>....Which we never see in game
You do in fact see Rhitatyn in the game.
>asahi was a child when he was conscripted
You fricking moron. That officer didn't conscript him. He brought him to the capitol for an education. Play the game and read what happens instead of inventing your own moronic commie fantasies.
>You fricking moron. That officer didn't conscript him.
>Describes him literally being conscripted and we then see him in the army in the next flashback
Holy shit you're actually just moronic. He is RECRUITING him into the MILITARY you dumbfrick. Do you want to link the scene?
He brings him for an education and offers to do the same for Yotsuyu you STUPID fricking commie moron.
So why is he in the military afterwards anon? if he just got a free education and tutoring.
Also please link the cutscene if you're so sure. Surely you will do this, if you don't I'll just link it myself. Tick tock.
>So why is he in the military afterwards anon?
Because he joins the military years later, dipshit.
>if he just got a free education and tutoring.
Why would this preclude joining the military? Especially in a fascist nation that revolves around the military. Anyone who wants to get anywhere joins the military.
>Also please link the cutscene if you're so sure.
Didn't you just offer to? What happened bro? Did you forget that the point of the scene was that a Garlean officer was extending a kindness to Yotsuyu which her own caretakers refused, showing why she might be more sympathetic to Garlemald than her own people? That would be pretty embarrassing if you'd forgotten something like that!
>Because he joins the military years later, dipshit.
Source?
>Why would this preclude joining the military? Especially in a fascist nation that revolves around the military. Anyone who wants to get anywhere joins the military.
Why would a random conscript be able to allow any doman citizen full legal garlean citizenship LMAO your entire argument is less feasible and less lore compliant than mine and is also a huge goal post shift.
>More babble
No the scenes where we see yotsuyu was abused and then sold off to as a childbride into prostitution was what emphasized that, also I'm still waiting, SURELY you're subscribed to the game and are not just feverishly looking for the cutscene on youtube right now as you stall.
>Source?
Source that he joined the military at 7 years old?
>Why would a random conscript be able to allow any doman citizen full legal garlean citizenship
He didn't. He brought him for an education, which is extended to non-citizens too. Which you'd know if you played the game.
>No the scenes where we see yotsuyu was abused and then sold off to as a childbride into prostitution was what emphasized that
Hey bud? The scene I'm talking about is the one that shows the abuse. There are no scenes of her being married off.
>also I'm still waiting
What happened bro? Did you not just offer to link it yourself? What are you waiting for?
>Bunch of random goal post shifts and obfuscation
You really wanna fight me on things that have nothing to do with my assertions isn't that funny? I don't care what your OPINION is or what your CONJECTURE is. The fact of the matter is that in the lore aans cannot become citizens unless they serve 20+ years in the military. Asahi was CONSCRIPTED as a child. Otherwise this scene followed up by the next scene makes zero sense. He's obviously recruiting him, now if you want me to bring up the japanese text next to BTFO you I can. But before that please answer this.
Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
>Asahi was CONSCRIPTED as a child. Otherwise this scene followed up by the next scene makes zero sense.
I know I'm talking to a globalist commie moron but somehow you're still baffling me with your stupidity. They show him being brought to the capitol for an education in one scene, and then the next scene which takes place many years later, during the course of ARR's events, shows him in the military. And thus you think that must mean he joined the military as a child in the first scene? Holy shit dude.
>Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
Again
>most of Garlean society revolves around the military
>foreigners are forced into conscription and thus have a military title by default
Your question is disingenuous. Let's stop dancing around your stupidity and get back to the point. A nation which FORCES foreign races to participate in citizenship, which FORCES them to have military training and weapons, and with FORCES them to have an education is not an ethnostate. It is a globalist monoculture shithole that prides itself on bringing "progress" and "security" and wiping away those gross, dangerous cultural elements like religion. You know, that society you dream of.
>They show him being brought to the capitol for an education in one scene
FRICKING SOURCE LOL? are you just schizoing out now that I've BTFO you?
>and then the next scene which takes place many years later, during the course of ARR's events, shows him in the military. And thus you think that must mean he joined the military as a child in the first scene? Holy shit dude
Literally in-game source for any of this???
>Your question is disingenuous.
No it's not disingenuous but you want to move off of it because it completely blows your dumbfrick conjecture out of the water. No non-pureblood garleans are ever seen as common place citizens in EW, all garlean citizens are either aan granted special status in annexed territory like with fordola whose father was a traitor and worked for gaius. Or are conscripted in the military, keep in mind using POWs or immediately conscripting citizens of annexed countries is against the geneva convention and a war crime.
>More insane babble not supported by the text
You lost on every single point dude, just let it go the story doesn't support your assertion at all. You can't even do your "all citizens are in the military in garlemald" meme because there are non-combative citizen classes. This is like saying because there are more ranks in the military than in normal society a nation is predominantly soldiers.
You're literally so destroyed you're not even making logical sense.
>FRICKING SOURCE LOL?
>pic related
>"as well"
LOL
>Literally in-game source for any of this???
Holy shit dude. The scene which shows Asahi being saved by Zenos is during the failed rebellion that Yugiri fled from in ARR. He even talks about going on his way to kill Kaien. Play the game, dumb fricking commie.
>No it's not disingenuous
It absolutely is because the path to citizenship is through military service, therefore non-Garleans get a military title by default. You're aware of this.
>No non-pureblood garleans are ever seen as common place citizens in EW
Notice how you had to specifiy "in EW" because characters like Asahi, Rhitatyn, and Misijia blow your headcanon the frick out?
>You can't even do your "all citizens are in the military in garlemald" meme because there are non-combative citizen classes.
It's a fascist society in which social class revolves around the military. The military is the central feature of the government and society at large. And all non-Garleans, by default, will have a military title because that is the path to citizenship. Fricking idiot. Keep coping about your evil, disgusting ideology getting called out for what it is.
>its fascist because....i dont like it
Garlemald is fascist by the definition of the word, has nothing to do with what I think about it.
Ganker is a funny place where you can ironically bat for fascism and not get your teeth kicked in like other websites
I mean that guy LOVES ethnostates and is a /misc/monkey so he probably loves fascism as much as he hates reading or bathing.
>ethnostates
where?
Israel
>He is fully melting down
He is trying to CONSCRIPT THEM.
Do I really need to explain to you how to parse this scene??
>Holy shit dude. The scene which shows Asahi being saved by Zenos
No moron what you said here, where do we see him go to garlemald?
>They show him being brought to the capitol for an education in one scene
Where do we see him taken to garlemald for an education?
>More melting down
Holy frick are you this angry you can't substantiate any of your points anymore?
>Notice how you had to specifiy "in EW" because characters like Asahi, Rhitatyn, and Misijia blow your headcanon the frick out?
No they aren't citizens because they are aan who are in military service. It is not humane that the only avenue for citizenship to a country is forced conscription or because a legatus conquers your land and gives you a super special title, that is an ethnostate. No true blooded garlean considers fordola anything but an aan because her status is not legitimate, as evidenced by this cutscene and the cutscene in endwalker.
Also it's funny how you go
>Notice how you had to specify(this is how it's spelt by the way stop raging ESL moron) the expansion that specifically goes into garlean mainland culture
Yeah of course, what else should I reference your fricking delusions? Garlemald is an ethnostate with a viscous and exclusionary immigration system. Everything in the game shows this.
AIEEEEEEEEE
I'm a capitalist why do you think I dislike this scene? you're literally doing what you're accusing me of.
>Communism is when you argue against me.
You sound like a progressive commie.
I am no such thing lmao. Israel is absolutely an ethnostate though.
>I'm a capitalist
so a fascist then?
>He is trying to CONSCRIPT THEM.
He literally tells Asahi's mom that she has a legal obligation to send Yotsuyu for an education you illiterate commie shistain.
>No moron what you said here, where do we see him go to garlemald?
>Where do we see him taken to garlemald for an education?
In the scene you posted, where the officer comes to take him for an education.
>No they aren't citizens because they are aan who are in military service.
They are not aan. Rhitatyn and Asahi are sas, and Misija is a pyr. You don't see the sort of gymnastics you're jumping through here?
>No true blooded garlean considers fordola anything but an aan because her status is not legitimate
Gaius isn't a true blooded Garlean? Weird, I could have sworn he was. Also could have sworn that she's legally a pyr, and later a rem, and has full rights of a citizen.
>Yeah of course, what else should I reference your fricking delusions?
There are several hundred hours of game before EW, dipshit. Also
>minor spelling mistake
You lost when you have to resort to this. Fricking idiot.
>Garlemald is an ethnostate with a viscous and exclusionary immigration system
It's not exclusionary at all when its function is literally to force everyone into it. How can you so effectively ignore this one single point? Is it that globohomosexual brainwashing?
>He literally tells Asahi's mom that she has a legal obligation to send Yotsuyu for an education you illiterate commie shistain.
Holy frick you're just lying again, pic rel is just him saying that she is not filed as adopted or have any paperwork that registers her. Why the frick would he need to ASSESS and then talk about COMPENSATION if this is some legal obligation to teach them?? every single thing you try to assert contradicts the scene you autist.
Her legal obligation is to MAKE SURE THEY KNOW ABOUT ALL OF HER CHILDREN ON RECORD. Jesus do I have to explain something this simple?
>In the scene you posted, where the officer comes to take him for an education.
Oh so in your delusionary world where we ignore him just conscripting asahi to the army. Gotcha.
>They are not aan. Rhitatyn and Asahi are sas, and Misija is a pyr. You don't see the sort of gymnastics you're jumping through here?
Those are military titles, which I've explained again is because garlemalds only avenue for citizenship is through 20+ years of service, which is not humane. Can you show me any common citizen who immigrated through non-military means? no ramza and alma do not count as we don't know whether Tia was an aan or a bas and the bas in their name is inherited from Jenomis, meaning they are not IMMIGRANTS.
>More schizo babble.
Okay let's do this, if you can find me ANY official material that shows that you can become a garlean citizen without needing to.
A. Be liked by a legatus
B. Serve 20+ years of military duty
C. Have your country annexed AND be conscripted into the military
I will concede, show me garlemalds center of immigration where they are literally IMPORTING miqo'te.
Because they are inherently fascist, you cannot keep the strictness of immigration an ethnostate requires without some form of fascism. But 100% of ethnostates are failures anyway.
>having strict border controls necessitates facism
moron
>keeps using the fascism magical word
>Holy frick you're just lying again, pic rel is just him saying that she is not filed as adopted or have any paperwork that registers her.
Read what he says and not what you imagine he said.
>"She is of age to receive an education as well, is she not? Yet we have no records. I trust I need not remind you of your legal obligations--"
How bad is your reading comprehension here? He's saying that she's of age to receive an education, yet they have no record of her, and thus the mother is not meeting her legal obligation. That meaning, her obligation to put Yotsuyu on record so she can be picked up for an education. Hence why he leads with that.
>Oh so in your delusionary world where we ignore him just conscripting asahi to the army.
Source on him conscripting him? Because all he talks about in that scene is bringing him for an education.
>"She is of age to receive an education as well, is she not?"
>"as well"
>"as well"
As well as who? Asahi.
>if you can find me ANY official material that shows that you can become a garlean citizen without needing to.
What you're asking here is for me to provide something that shows you can become a Garlean citizen without going through the citizenship process. Surely you understand how ridiculous this is to ask. The fact is you're arguing in bad faith. The Garlean immigration process is not exclusionary because it is literally forced upon everyone.
>show me garlemalds center of immigration where they are literally IMPORTING miqo'te.
The military.
>and exclusionary immigration system.
They... literally force people into it...
>Another doom sissy
Source? and to remind you, being conscripted in order to gain citizenship is an exclusionary form of immigration(and also highly illegal if it's your only avenue of citizenship).
Needing an active combat role and being a borderline combatant POW(which is illegal) is inhumane.
>Strict border contro--ACK!
Not what I said, it's simple.
>Make laws so only one race can be in your country
Human rights violation
>Kill anyone who is a race you do not want in your country
Human rights violation
>Force whoever is a race you don't like to leave your country
Human rights violation
You cannot have an ethnostate without doing any of those three, which is fascism.
Well, it was pretty obvious you were trolling the whole time, but thanks for confirming it
I literally accept your concession. Sorry the FACTS of the game doesn't align with your FEELINGS.
>Read what he says and not what you imagine he said.
Yes that is literally what he says he comments that she is not on record and reminds her of her legal obligations they then talk about striking a deal.
>How bad is your reading comprehension here? He's saying that she's of age to receive an education, yet they have no record of her, and thus the mother is not meeting her legal obligation. That meaning, her obligation to put Yotsuyu on record so she can be picked up for an education. Hence why he leads with that.
Her legal obligation is to keep the records what? are you moronic can you not read? he literally directly mentions it after commenting on her lack of records. This also again contradicts with their previous conversation, you're literally just delusional.
>More cope
Nope I'm asking you to show me a non-military corridor for immigration which would EASILY refute all of my assertions. You can't do that because garlemald is a fascist ethnostate, as the game meant for them to be.
So if you can show me this evidence I will gladly concede, if not, I'm sorry but everything in every text of the game disagrees with how you FEEL. As it were.
>It's not a human right for people to be able to go wherever the frick they want
You're right, it's not a right to go wherever you want, it IS a human right to be allowed the freedom of association on a broader citizen like scale. If someone wants to go through a legal channel to become a citizen, that channel should be as fair and humane as possible.
It's not forced immigration because they are aan until they survive the 20+ years. This is what we would call, a scam. To begin with the military system is only a chance kek it's not even guranteed.
"Citizenship may be granted for a display of exceptional skill or serving in the military for 20 years or more."
Maybe if you kill WOL.
I mean it was over as soon as you said "human rights violation", that's such a cathedral buzzword its hilarious
you are probably some wowrat trying to make xiv fans look bad tbh
>citizenship to any country I want is a human right
No it's not dumb shit, nations have the prerogative to deny citizenship to anyone they choose for any reason they choose. Get fricked, that is one of the most basic tenants of being a sovereign nation.
That's not how antions and borders have worked at any point in human history. People lose wars and national borders have shifted throughout the entirety of human history. The post WW2 hegemony keeping nation states mostly static since its inception is an absolute anomaly compared to the rest of history.
Yes it is, you have the freedom of a association the only way for you to take or block that right is through a human rights violation.
Literally every definition agrees with you, if you BELIEVE that that right doesn't exist that's fine, But there are only three ways to secure an "ethnostates" borders.
If someone WANTS to come there you either killing them or deporting them.
Okay, post your address. I'm coming to your house. The borders are open right?
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500
>deporting them
Uh, yeah? That's the entire point. Surely you're not arguing deportation is a human rights violation.
>Surely you're not arguing deportation is a human rights violation.
he is because he is insane, of course this does not apply to whites in south africa (who are 'colonizers' not 'immigrants')
Deportation is only legal under a system that has a proper fair and compliant channel for immigration as there is a stark definition between legal and illegal immigration.
When there is no legal immigration and all immigration is "illegal" the government is violating human rights. That simple.
>deportation laws are a violation of human rights unless the adhere to my arbitrary definition of what's "fair"
Eat a dick, as previously stated it is the purview of the nation state to decide their own laws in regards to who gets to immigrate to their nation.
>Eat a dick, as previously stated it is the purview of the nation state to decide their own la---ACK!!
Too bad every charter we have in our society disagrees with you homosexual. Which is why you losers will never have an ethnostate, it is morally repugnant and cannot be enacted without borderline genocide at worst and fascism at best.
Cheers!
>....who cares?
It's generally better if we don't subject people to treatment we wouldn't want to be subjected to, but I know for hypocritical fricks like you that's difficult to comprehend.
Fortunately for me, the text in the game, and their forced conscription system which only has a 100% chance of making you a citizen if you KILL THE STRONGEST EORZEAN SOLDIER, agrees with me and not you.
>It's generally better if we don't subject people to treatment we wouldn't want to be subjected to
??????
i don't want to live in a group of people outside my ethnicity
my ideal world is everyone having their own ethnostate
i wouldn't care at all if i got deported from japan, because guess what, im not japanese, i dont look like one, and i dont think like one
of course you are a psychopath so you assume everyone is as violent and psycopathic as you
Plot twist is that I don't actually advocate for an ethnostate, but I do believe that a nation's soverignty to determine who is and isn't allowed within its borders I have no idea why your mind is whipping to visions of genocide because of this idea.
>the government is violating human rights
....who cares? its one thing if you are genociding people and invading continents, another if everyone in the country decides "yeah, we don't want you here. Leave."
Can countries not decide how to govern themselves? You are like 90s democrat boomers who saw the Middle East willingly being authoritarian and went "THEY MUST BE GETTING MANIPULATED THERES NO WAY A CULTURE WOULDN'T CHOOSE SACRED DEMOCRACY"
just pure enlightenment bullcrap
But you can though? What kind of fricking moron believes genocide is necessary for an ethnostate? It's not a human right for people to be able to go wherever the frick they want also, if that's the case national borders serve no purpose.
>doom sissy
What the frick are you babbling about?
>being conscripted in order to gain citizenship is an exclusionary form of immigration(and also highly illegal if it's your only avenue of citizenship).
So the forced immigration process isn't a forced immigration process because... it's illegal in real life...
Nevermind, you're trolling.
You sound like zodiark trancers who think emet was only gonna sacrifice trees and fish to bring back the other ancients.
You sound like you don't have an argument but you want to redirect into some other boogeyman.
Nothing of what you have said has anything to do with an "ethnostate".
It's not an ethnostate though. The whole mission of Garlemald is to bring every race and nation into its fold and it actively educates and promotes people of other races.
>garlemald is an ethnostate
>has every eorzean race and color that exists
you are really dumb anon
He's not wrong in the sense that Garlemald very firmly keeps Garleans (the race) as their upper nobility and highest value soldiers but that's also the only sense in which he's right
That is the only sense in which ethnostate matters, an ethno nationalistic state is a state that make immigration nearly impossible under normal circumstances.
An authoritarian fascistic regime is one that then uses that racial superiority as a reason to invade other "lesser" countries for either ethnic cleansing or supremacy.
No countries annexed by garlemald are allies, they are satellite nations that bend to garlean will.
ethnostate
or eth·no-state
[ eth-noh-steyt ]SHOW IPA
noun
a country populated by, or dominated by the interests of, a single racial or ethnic group:
Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
>Can you show me a single NPC that holds a non-military/conscript title in garlemald proper?
Wasn't Asahi a diplomat and nobleman? "House von Brutus" or something along those lines? (Also, *really* fricking subtle there, Square, bravo)
>a country populated by, or dominated by the interests of, a single racial or ethnic group
Seems like an insanely broad definition, almost every country that's ever existed would be considered an ethnostate by this logic. Even the US was dominated by the interests of Anglo-Saxon Protestants from the East Coast until very recently
>Seems like an insanely broad definition
Sure we can go with this then.
ethnostate
/ˈeTHnōˌstāt/
noun
noun: ethnostate; plural noun: ethnostates; noun: ethno-state; plural noun: ethno-states
a sovereign state of which citizenship is restricted to members of a particular racial or ethnic group.
"they actively promoted the concept of a white ethnostate"
Even if we go by this more "favorable" definition would you say that it's a fair and common way for immigration to be handled that you must serve 20 years in order to remove your status of aan?
Keep in mind outside of this text the only reference we have for ANYTHING outside this 20 year rule being standard are legatus's purposefully bending the rules in already annexed states.
We never see how this would play out in the actual garlemald home state proper.
But I mean, we can assume with how the few garlean NPCs we meet react to you and are all pure blooded garleans.
Which annexed state did Asahi get an education in and which legatus bent the rules for him? Or did he start his military service at 7 years old?
>Which annexed state did Asahi get an education in and which legatus bent the rules for him?
An irrelevant question because his situation is not the norm and still led to him entering military service with a military title at the end of the day. He was picked up by some random officer to begin with and was in the military before he even met Zenos just fyi.
>Even if we go by this more "favorable" definition would you say that it's a fair and common way for immigration to be handled that you must serve 20 years in order to remove your status of aan?
Hasn't Garlemald only been an empire for about 50 years or so, though? Not a lot of time for people to filter through this requirement. Also, I could have sworn I remember reading that the Roman Empire had an almost identical system for citizenship. If you were some provincial from Germania or Gaul or something, serving in the legions for 20 years would grant you citizenship, and that's how as time progressed you started seeing Roman Emperors with non-Italian backgrounds. I don't think anyone would consider Rome an ethnostate, at least not once the Republic fell.
Don't we see people of all different ethnicities fighting for Garlemald, though? Asahi and Yotsuyu both seem to be pretty high ranking in the Empire and they're both ethnic Domans. I always saw Garlemald more like a psycho magitek version of the Romans: there's a clear dominant ethnic/cultural group, but there's not a hard and fast rule about who can be a part of it. As long as you don't have a soul and you enjoy inflicting suffering on innocent people, you can be on the team.
Garlemald wasn't even close to being perceivable as an ethnostate until stormblood made them all act like fricking one piece villains
>refused to die and return to the lifestream to be reborn
>in the end she died so hard she couldn't return to the lifestream to be reborn
Pottery.
I'm going to have to level viper before doing the story to sate my autism
This shit is so fricking annyoing. What the frick is wrong with you? I told you hundreds of times to stop doing this shit.
Annoying prick. Frick you
I've flipped back to liking the dawntrail song.
TIME
ONCE
Only good part of that dumb trailer. Officially the worst trailer, even behind Stormblood.
I just thought it was weird how the trailer doesn't really tell us anything about the story. All the others gave at least some kind of suggestion of what's going on, Dawntrail just seems to be "the Scions are chilling in a tropical paradise, and maybe there's a treasure?".
the 2nd song doesn't transition well
>doesn't transition well
Neither are the players.
I only dislike the picto theme, the flamenco version of torn from the heavens is unadulterated kino
I like the earlier iterations of it. Once they started expanding the trailer to fit more scenes in and the song got stretched with empty air, it really fricked itself, never mind the entire Pictomancer section.
the theme at the pictomancer part is a massive bop
I liked the first bit of it.
The pictomancer section is the highlight of the trailer for me, no idea why people dislike the chorus so much.
If AST rework is crap and all healers are still boring I'll probably hop off and play pictomancer, smn, and dnc/mch assuming picto has intricate gameplay and smn gets something to build on it's foundation. Also si it PIC, PCT, or PTO?
probably PCT
>assuming picto has intricate gameplay
>and smn gets something to build on it's foundation
bros... it's over... jobs have never gotten anything new in any expansion...
You're right, who would think they would listen to job feedback, everyone knows the 2 minute meta came out of thin air!
world of warcraft
I like when it's referred to as "worlo"
I wanted Corsair and Pictomancer, I'm happy to get one of them. Green Mage and Geomancer sounded very boring.
BST is a neat cherry on top but we won't have it for like 2 years so whatever
Pictomancer is finally a non-fricking shart mage, VPR can wear armor so it's instantly JDG kino.
Honestly prefer these two to RPR and SGE.
Does it even matter? If they still use the same old job design then Pictomancer and Viper will be boring as all hell
she cute
Will Nashu become PICT as well?
WE FALL
I fricking love this shit.
legit came
Ugggh Yes. Post your challenge of emet-selch right now. I need to see them.
>SHB samurai armor
Man I really wasn't being very interesting at the time
that the scion jacket? It works with your character.
Yeah, apparently off the top of my head I was still only a couple months into the game so I didn't really have much for glamour. Made due with what I had and bleached hair to fit the Lightwarden turn.
Need an edit of this with a paintbrush and the picto hat
The only criticism I have of this trailer is that they gave Emet-Selch's lines from the end of the story ("who are you? No one. Nothing.") to that weird little gremlin guy. I guess they were trying to avoid spoilers but the whole thing just feels weird and vaguely comedic, especially since they end up having nothing to do with the story.
ShB>ARR>HW>SB>EW>DT
This is the official Ganker trailer ranking
Anyone who attempts to debate this will be called a fwaggot
Nice try reddit. The actual Ganker ranking is ARR=HW=SHB=EW>SB=DT.
ShB>ARR/EW>HW>DT>SB
Hey I got to level 80 on AST. What's the deal with it becoming a low key shield healer the past few levels?
>he never played before they removed sects
AST and WHM both have a freebie shield anon, neutral is just a memberberry skill from another time
What went wrong?
You thinking muttrika is the entire world maybe
How's it doing in other languages?
>namegay
>shit opinion
many such cases
Not interested, probably going to stick with Black Mage if I come back at all.
imagine a single player FF shadow bringers
>imagine a single player FF shadow bringers
...so Shadowbringers?
The day every MSQ Trial is able to be run with Duty Support/Trusts is the day this game is 100% singleplayer for the main story. And Dawntrail hasn't announced a single plan to do anything of the sort despite testbedding it with Hydaelyn.
What are your bets on astro rework
>card buffs are kill?
>more time mage stuff?
>Synastry and/or Neutral Sect are kill?
I don't think they'll do anything with their dps abilities.
Hopefully cards become the heavier focus of the kit again and time shit gets more flavor too. Synastry is 100% going the way of the dodo.
Both of them are 9/10. They nailed it for this expansion. I've been waiting so long for a proper dual wield class. Ninja is so fricking cringe with their anime frogs and naruto running.
take this
My wife Krile
>that mouth
>that head shape
i am glad we didnt get a garlemalding expansion
I never noticed that malding is literally in the name
How fitting
It was indeed foretold.
Would have preferred it to the isekai slop shb was, but I understand the xiv fanbase is full of women and zoomers who hate political intrigues
Hell yeah brother, my favorite part of FF1 was getting to Elfheim and learning their tax policy
No, most FF sucks, but Yoshi love Ivalice and Tactics Ogre so sometimes I expect better from him, but shb and ew were the same slops as the rest of the series
>ESL is moronic
every time
>Has no argument
I accept your concession
viper was teased years ago
that is literally gabranth
viper would have been teased if a character fought like zidane
>Judge Job
5th tank please. And give them 2h Hammers
the hammer tank job will be based off thor with lighting motif
Guild have write solution many time.
1 Kill all main chara and replace with the King Solus and No Shadow God
2 Replace Endwalking story with the Garlemalding fanfic
3 Rejoiner all soles to Blood God Zod
4 Making the traditional masculine chara
5 No wood in cheesie burger
what's the best job reveal and why is it Sage?
I honestly hated the look of Sage when it was revealed. But playing it at 90 is so satisfying. All the high energy casting animations are fantastic
carrots of happiness is a god-tier addition to the OST
>use pepsis for the first time on accident
>mfw i reach up and crush the eukrasian prognosis i just casted for more HP healing
The story about his friend that possibly inspired Sage is sad af
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/003072.html
I do love Sage a lot. I just wish I could have a god damn sci fi helmet/mask to go with it and go full Gundam.
Based. Carrots of Happiness is really good.
Samurai is a joke but its reveal was really good
Better question: what's the worst job reveal, and why is it dancer?
>middle of exciting, dramatic Shadowbringers trailer with the Scions fighting for their lives and the WoL going toe-to-toe with an archangel
>DUDE LOOK AT THIS BUNNYGIRL STRIPPER DANCING IN A TENT FOR 5 SECONDS
>Anyways, back to the story
>u mad?
holy fricking sexo
wasn't this a combo job and race reveal?
yep
Why didn't she dress like that?
Because Veira have always been the "we want the coomer audience" race. No point in beating around the bush. Just look at the village they have in the forest
>yeah they're all eternally like 25 and they all wear skirts+crop tops and high heels and there are no men
I don't think that was supposed to be Lyna
funny bait post
dude there have only been a handful of actual job reveals, let alone ones dropped as part of the expac trailer
>SAM
>DNC
>GNB
>SGE
>VPR
>Pictomancer
that's literally it
oh and RPR, but we all knew that was coming
Are you ready for this not to get deleted from SMN?
I mean it's been pretty worthless since they made it scale purely off Mind right?
it's already just there for flavor, wouldn't be surprised if they kept it as a meme
>our current scouting job dual wields blades, how can we make the new scouting job stand out?
>how about... dual wielding blades?
just, frick
garlemald literally wants a rejoining wtf are you talking about with your ethnostates
Will Asmongold Return to Dawntrail?
God, I hope not
almost certainly, but the question is if he'll have tanked his streaming career by that point, since he keeps trying to pick internet fights and cover up his company stealing donations to charities
Hopefully not.
i'd prefer if he didn't
Viper is massively disappointing. The animations look awful. I would have loved a one-handed sword class but alas was are just given ninja with longer daggers. Picto will be cool if it has a draw function or something. If it's just another class it looks really lame.
>Viper is massively disappointing. The animations look awful
you've only seen like 5-6 animations, and you have no idea how it actually plays. Calm down
>Picto will be cool if it has a draw function or something. If it's just another class it looks really lame.
the limited jobs sound like more your speed
I love playing BLU but there isn't anything to do once you've got all the spells and there isn't an event worth grinding.
aren't they bumping up the level cap for BLU? Not sure if they were doing that before or after DT releases
most likely after since that brings it into endwalker territory
Blitzball ranged job waiting room
>it's another "ESL troony doesn't understand the difference between fascism, militarism, authoritarianism, ethnocracy and an actual ethnostate and thinks that all that's required to use such labels is when the case in question broadly fits into a vague definition" episode
You don't know what any of those words mean, garlemald by definition is fascist considering the fact it's a literal authoritarian state that had a civil war just to decide its leader.
Garlemald is basically the soviet union, which was definitely a fascist authoritarian regime.
The only thing that could depose varis was zenos killing the shit out of him and once zenos got in power he could do whatever the frick he wanted.
>garlemald by definition is fascist considering the fact it's a literal authoritarian state that had a civil war just to decide its leader
That's not the definition of fascism, otherwise every monarchy that ever had a succession war (which is literally all of them, by the way) would be considered fascist.
>Powerful, often exclusionary, populist nationalism centered on cult of a redemptive, “infallible”
leader who never admits mistakes.
Pure blooded garleans are seen as superior, being able to use aether makes you a monster or savage in garlean eyes. This is all in canon
>Political power derived from questioning reality, endorsing myth and rage, and promoting lies.
Varis's whole speech falls into this about the one race(ancients) which doesn't even turn out to be true
>Fixation with perceived national decline, humiliation, or victimhood.
How emet even got into power, we see this from the RPR job quest he pretty much used this line of thinking to justify the initial campaigns.
>Disdain for human rights while seeking purity and cleansing for those they define as part of the nation.
Every single garlean scientist actually and varis with the black rose shit
>Identification of “enemies”/scapegoats as a unifying cause. Imprison and/or murder opposition and minority
group leaders.
Eorzeans are savages again.
>Supremacy of the military and embrace of paramilitarism in an uneasy, but effective
collaboration with traditional elites. Fascists arm people and justify and glorify violence as “redemptive”.
I mean this one is just blatant.
I fricking hate that the FFXI alliance raid is gonna be like return to Ivalice. I don't understand why they don't handle all the referential stuff like they did with Crystal Tower. Make it feel like part of the owrld and not some opaque side shit that barely makes sense unless you played the original game.
Can't be worse than Nier, at least return to Ivalice was Garlean history
>But I can't relate to it as an eorzean
we are the garlemalding
>BUT GLOBALISTS CAN'T BE THE BAD GUYS THEY TOLD ME IN REAL LIFE THEY'RE THE GOOD GUYS FIGHTING FOR DIVERSITY BY MAKING EVERY PLACE THE SAME
Wuk Lamatcore post.
Doom sissy just be less stupid next time.
i just wanted to make a funny, nonners
Stop trying to westernize XIV with your ugly furtrash
they aren't
that's why we have based femhroths
SB had the best trailer
they need to improve the visuals of Pictomancers spells, shits inexcusable
>stone is just a blurry mess, looks like the mess of hair you'd pull out of a clogged sink
>blizzard is a fullbright icicle with the same amount of polygons as the infamous grape
>random ass moogle that doesn't look like paint that shoots a lazer that also doesn't look like paint, it's practically a BLU spell thrown in for no reason
shit's literally false advertisement with how much worse it looks than what's shown in the full trailer
>all skills shown are literal rough drafts done by pictomancers
>a pictomancer doing their full rotation will create masterpieces
Maybe
>fascism/ethnostate means anything i don't like
from the geniuses that brought you 'trump is a fascist emperor!'
Every DPS job in this game has either an obnoxious autism skinner box rotation, or moronproof 2 to 4 button babymode rotation.
So I'll be playing Gunbreaker again just like I've been doing since 5.0.
I'm really scared that Picto will be the DNC of magic DPS and will be even more moron proof than SMN
It has confirmed cast times so it can't be worse than SMN.
it's got cast times and revolves around reducing its longest cast times
summoner is an unfounded worry
I like em. Viper's kinda boring.
>time cards are "out of stock" on amazon and Squenix's own store
anyone know why this is?
I hope they're not phasing them out
>Hiroi was previously stated to be writing Dawntrail(who's wirten nothing but mediocre trash like the Bard quests, only wrote a halfway decent story in Pandaemonium but it was bogged down by 90% standing around talking to Themis and Eric doing stock emotes, then bossfight, repeat over and over, showing that Hiroi can write a good story but is garbage at presentation)
>Hiroi allegedly wrote post-6.0 and is responsible for the abomination that is Zero
>Now it's stated that the still-unidentified writer of Werlyt and the writer of the Pixie/Dwarf beast tribe questlines (which are actually good, incredibly well presented and actually go out of their way to have some of the best custom-animations for cutscenes in the game)
What happened? Did enough people shit on the post-EW story and he got fired? Did Yoshi lie about Hiroi writing 7.0? What the frick happened?
Hiroi and Werlyt's writer can both work on Dawntrail together.
Hiroi wrote the Sky Pirate questline which is pure adventure kino, I understand why they chose him
Zero was planned for 6.0, I think it goes to shit when they are forced to write characters other people made
Wasn't EW patches by writing interns loosely supervised by Ishikawa?
Hiroi writing the Yok Tural arc (the shitty boring kill 8 worms quests)
other writer working on kino Xak Tural arc
I'm so sick and tired of shitter nins who can't keep an eye on debuffs and keep canceling my mug. I pray viper gets rid of the shitter nins so us nins who actually enjoy and know our job can know peace from the mug canceling curse.
>why don't you play badly and delay things for meeee
You stupid Black person. Trick is personal dmg buff and stacks. Mug is party/raid wide dmg buff that does not stack. 40 seconds of mug from two nins is better than 21 seconds of mug because the second nin is a moron canceling the first mug.
Don't care plus bursts are always at the same time, delay your shit if you want to, I'll keep mine every 2 min during mine and everyone bursts
That's fair. Nin rotation can make you locked in. A 5% dmg increase for 20 seconds after everyone bursts does help out in the long run so I'm learning to wait as i still get mug from other nin for the burst.
>Hiroi (Sky Pirates, Pandaemonium kino)
>Unnamed writer (Werlyt)
>Supervised by Ishikawa
If they don't behave like utter chimp morons, it actually could be good. Hopefully, Ishikawa looming over them doesn't mean they have to keep forcing her fujoshit cat boyfriend.
What's some decent ways to earn gil as a newbie? Just blew most of the gil I had accumulated through the MSQ on some I640 Reaper gear.
Daily roulettes are a consistent daily income and you can put the tomestones from it towards a relic weapon (it will be best-in-slot in less than a week)
Well first of all don't be moronic and buy gear off the marketboard. As long as you can follow that rule you will eventually have a nice pile of gil.
What do you enjoy doing? A lot of side content drops loot boxes that might get you some trinkets to sell on the marketboards, which is a nice bonus if you were going to run that content anyway. You can buy items used in crafting for tomestones of causality (20 tomes for the ones that are used in 640 gear) that you can then sell on the marketboard. They're only super expensive when the tier is new but I think most people are just grinding relics now so the prices might be decent.
What kind of side content? Stuff like Eureka and Bozja or do you mean raids and such? Elaborate a bit on it, sounds interesting.
Eureka and Bozja have the most obvious lootboxes, but Deep Dungeons have them too. Also you can sell stuff from Variant/Criterion dungeons. The only thing I can think of that's kinda hard to turn into a potential gil source is Gold Saucer.
Raids aren't that good, unless you get a rare orchestrion drop and I think those tend to be from the normal modes. Rarely people do parties where they offer to buy all the loot from a savage floor (usually the last one), or the mount from the extreme if it drops. Those can be pretty nice since people doing it are stupidly rich, and I've heard that if they clearly write the deal out in the game itself and have everyone agree to it you can then bug game masters to enforce it too if they try not to pay.
This game is bad and you should feel bad for freely advertising for it, lol.
>viper
i can finally be spear lann and CHAA away. i bet it's gonna feel like shit to play, though.
>pictomancer
LMAOOOOOOOOOO GAY ASS homie
I've always disliked how FFXIV has treated the goddamn item mall ever since SB or so (ARR as I recall was fine - just old holiday stuff for $1-2 each that could also be unlocked when the holiday came round again and like 3 mounts that were related to a JP only live event like a fan fest or something etc) when it comes to cosmetics, but one thing that is equally if not more frustrating seems to be ongoing as well
>Exclusive in-game content, mostly minions, tied to physical, limited item purchase like art books or soundtracks
Oh, would like like a Yotsuyu minion with her kiseru? Oh frick you unless you bought some artbook that's now out of print, or buy the code from someone who did. Frick. That. Shit. I'd consider it an acceptable compromise if these would come to the item mall a little while after they stop making the physical item or something, but they don't even seem to do that its just about fricking dickish exclusivity yet again. Someone said they were going to stop doing this after ShB, but no apparently the upcoming artbook has a Zodiark minion...and then it got worse
>BUY A STATUE FOR A GODDAMN EMOTE
$350 statue. and its allready fricking sold out. Okay, fine. No problem with collectables. But the majority of the shit on the pre-order page is about the goddamn item code...for a SINGLE CHARACTER? What the frick is wrong with these people. Look, if it turns out you can get this emote some other way in game then great I will retain fraction of a sliver of hope but this kind of shit is fricking infuriating otherwise.
statue emotes have always been limited to being bundled with the item itself
the sad thing is people just buy the emote and try to hawk the statue for like 4/5 the cost when you know damn well 99.99% of people who even consider buying this crap would pay the same amount for the emote alone
It's bullshit that they don't just sell the emote separately.
it is but anything SE does rarely makes sense
I spent $50 on Encyclopedia eorzea vol 2 just to get the Matoya hat. Never in hell would I spend $350 for a shitty copy pasted emote
The very idea of binding an item exclusively to a purchase of a physical thing, much less one so expensive, is repugnant. I'd be fine with it coming first with a purchase of something like that and included in its price, if it would soon arrive some other way - even being able to purchase it individually on an item mall or something.
Hell, for all WoW has done shitty in recent years one thing they've done worthy of at least some respect is that lots of old formerly card CCG related items from physical "loot" cards, are being granted other ways, including for stupid Twitch viewing or whatever. Its sad that for some/lots of the things that FFXIV does better than WoW especially these days , the one they do consistently worse is item mall cosmetic exclusives and similar exploitative monetization.
One thing I'm liking upon rewatching the trailer a few times is that there's no kind of serious or tearjerker shit in sight, it's all very bright, vibrant and hopeful. Honestly had enough of forging through despair and all that, seems like it's time for a good fun time in this expansion. Sure, I'm sure there will be some serious shit going down at some point but the tone this time going in is completely different than the last few expansions.
>g'raha is stuffing his fat fricking face
>alphinaud is busy with Something
>urianger is having a pina colada
>thancred is failing to get his willy wet
>alisaie doing a hip-swivel to impress WoL and gets a durian for her troubles
>y'shtola does nothing important and gets interrupted by a squirrel
>WoL is busy fighting gulool ja ja for fun
all is right with the world
Don't forget Krile finally winning at life
Krile winning at wasting our time with that floating thing crossing over the bridge
Why are ethnostates bad again? Should we import whites into kenya so it can be more multicultural?
>Why are ethnostates bad again?
They're not.
>Should we import whites into kenya so it can be more multicultural?
No, but this is what Garlemald would do.
Because it make the population stronger against the people who should be ruling them
inevitably an ethnostate starts demanding cheap labor that its native population believes it's too good to be doing, but its native population will gladly take authoritative and military roles, fast-forward a bit and they sit around wondering why the slaves are snatching guns from their hands and turning them on their masters and all the ethnostate natives are too fat, moronic, or otherwise weak to do anything about it
hey, get this....what if the ethnostate didn't have slaves? And everyone was of the same ethnicity and moral values? And they were content with their borders based on ethnicity and didn't expand into other areas?
Cool it with the antisemitism.
You don't understand because the Nahzees were expansionist that means all ethnostates inevitably would be
what if you picked up a history book
>Actually believing this meme
More like the laborers will begin to ask for a better pay, the employers will say no and import slaves instead
All you did was add a step to his historical model.
People want to work, they just want to be paid for it
*native population believes it's too good to be doing* is an awful libtard meme started by literal slavers
You don't work in agriculture, do you?
I've done far worse things than planting fruits, finishing the day with my nose completely filled with black dust from the sawmill
Yeah yeah very impressive honest work salt of the earth blah blah heard it a million times, anyways the whole reason Mexicans pick your vegetables is because white people won't do it that far down south.
Actually it's because globalist shitheads import cheap labor to keep costs down so they don't have to pay a proper wage to whites who actually have standards. Keep fighting for those workers at Starbucks, Eris (formerly Tom)!
Nobody "imported" Mexicans about twenty minutes away from the border you stupid roleplayer.
>Nobody "imported" Mexicans about twenty minutes away from the border
masterful gambit sir
He's a doom sissy its obvious because all the shitposting stopped when I started arguing with him, I'm just surprised he's also a /misc/ack. But that crowd of trancers try to be "le heckin good homosexuals!" so I'm not surprised.
starting a /misc/ argument is a really brainless but really effective way of completely snatching away a "shitposter"'s entire attention span
>He's a doom sissy its obvious because all the shitposting stopped when I started arguing with him
Actually it seems like the shitposting stopped because you started this trolling technique instead.
>it stopped because i started arguing
>UMMM ACTUALLY IT STOPPED BECAUSE YOU STARTED ARGUING
you feeling ok?
>No you
Very compelling argument, but unlike you I like the game and don't have to spend every waking moment posting edited tweets or calling VPR and PCT dogshit jobs.
Not how that works, a country is not a privately owned domicile. It is a collections of charters and borders governed by an institution of some kind.
Governments, ala post enlightenment era, cannot exclude citizenry off of the basis of immutable characteristics such as race.
It is a violation of human rights.
>but unlike you I like the game and don't have to spend every waking moment posting edited tweets or calling VPR and PCT dogshit jobs.
We were having a lore argument and this caused you to point at other people as "doom sissies" because you are in fact the "doom sissy" shitposter trying to start arguments and point fingers. You gave up the ghost when you started rambling about the Geneva Convention in regards to FFXIV lore dumbfrick.
>We were having a lore argument
We weren't having an argument, I shat on a moron for not understanding the basic narrative parallel between garlemald and an ethnostate.
He is still obviously a doom sissy RAT because I stunlocked him for two straight hours.
You can keep "No u-ing" me but the fact is that at the end of this I've made him so angry he'll probably use the images I posted and their hash to pretend to be me later on.
But I will always be there, in his mind, making him mald that he can't parse a simple stormblood cutscene the way it was meant to be written. Also I actually like XIV unlike cucky mchomosexual.
I AM THE JUDGE THAT SITS IN HIS MIND. RENT FREE.
You are severely ill.
severely ill yes but i have to agree he completely derailed le doomer train of thought, not much of a loss when he derailed the whole thread 450 posts or so in
He IS the shitposter. Look at how obvious he's making it letting the mask drop here at the end of the thread.
its not an ethnostate tho
you still haven't explained how it is one, other than the fact that you don't like ethnostates, and you don't like garlemald, so they must be the same because you are mentally ill
literally "TRUMP IS A FASCIST!" tier argument
>the basic narrative parallel between garlemald and an ethnostate.
Garlemald isn't an ethnostate, it's one of several globalist monocultures the game features to showcase the failing points of such a thing. Every single globalist monoculture in the game ends in disaster because they don't have the diversity of thought to deal with problems outside their way of thinking.
he has no argument to this because it shatters his irl political beliefs
very funny to see
>THERES NO WAY THE AMERICAN EMPIRE CAN LOSE
>OF COURSE PEOPLE WANT TO BE PART OF OUR GLOBALIST DEMOCRACY
post-ww2 america is literally garlemald
holy shit
>He's coping now with just babble
Feel free to refute me with any FACTS that align with both the definition of ethnostate and garlemalds conscription system.
Until then you can keep oinking homosexual. Rent free by the way.
If garlemald is an ethnostate, than so is the modern United States of America, and so is the Soviet Union, and so is The Roman Empire
you can dislike multiple things at once, anon
I'm pretty sure they all ended in disaster because the player is a god-slaying mercenary who got hired by the other side first.
The Enlightenment was a disaster for the human race, pretty much every idea it had was wrong
>they didn't import them, they just illegally hired them for pennies on the dollar thus providing them the incentive they needed to illegally hop the border
Kek get fricking real
if they're twenty minutes away from the border they were probably already there in the first place before the orange farmers hired them for five cents an hour, same shit as mexicali with white folk rolling in and saying they've always been there while the brown potato-sack looking guys in the background look at them and try to ignore the cities being named los angeles and san francisco
They will if you pay them for the work, perfect work for students and young adults
We also don't have Mexicans in Canada, not much anyway, you don't need your slaaaaaves
Shoveling out goat pens all day is another fun one. With all the powdered goat shit and piss you're breathing in, even after blowing out your nose like a trumpet and showering thoroughly you can still smell it from inside your sinuses all evening long.
I CAN'T FRICKING WAIT FOR THE EDEN ULTIMATE TO COME OUT SO I CAN MOD RYNE AND GAIA NUDE AND DO THE FIGHT WITH 1 HAND HOOOOOOOOOLY
>play a female character
>always like using the job-specific gear on the early patches
>they make the pictomancer a bawd showing off her belly
Makes me kind of mad. I'd expect this from dancer but now I can't be a job-gear caster without her looking like some ERP bawd
>not embracing the tummymancer
You sound homosexual
I embrace it if it makes sense. Pictomancer has no reason to. Even the scion they are using to shill the job doesn't show any skin
Dual wielding swords is good.
I'm just glad we finally have an actual western-themed melee dps
>reaper and ninja are not western
>ninja
>western
No? What the frick?
Sorry I meant samurai.
>the roman empire is a fascist ethnostate
for all the /misc/tard in the thread probably has a marble bust avatar on twitter, started calling it "X" within an hour of musk renaming it and begs for a RETVRN, the roman empire is an excellent example of a society where becoming or desiring to be an ethnostate would have been totally and completely rejected and ridiculed
wtf are you even talking about, get your head out of your ass, not everyone is a strawman
if i'm strawmanning, why did you respond to me to defend his honor
Intense mental illness on display here.
A country is not an ethnostate if it forces the citizenship process on conquered peoples, by the way.
It is if the process is unlawful and not guaranteed and requires you to be a POW conscript moron.
That is literally the definition of a war crime lmao.
>It is if the process is unlawful
Well it's not unlawful in Garlemald, since Garlemald isn't the real world.
>and requires you to be a POW conscript
They're not POWs, they just conscripts from subdued nations. Stop using words you don't understand the meaning of.
>That is literally the definition of a war crime lmao.
This may surprise you but there isn't even a country called Geneva on Etheirys, troll-kun.
https://twitter.com/Ammitraa/status/1744085127980867760
>The current state of XIV
I don't have a twitter, frick off.
is that a fat bum!?! I'M GOING FRICKING INSANE