how will ai impact character design? We know ai always goes completely based when allowed to freely recognize patterns? If companies can make more money using ai designs than playing nice with esg scores are we going to see coomboom in gaming?
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it will make character designs more generic then they've ever been
how so? any art style can be replicated by a.i. any artists can tweak ai to their liking. In fact its the opposite design possibilities become infinite.
Nobody will publish those design possibilities
Listen
Coomers have no standards
0
None
So to make them happy all you have to do is the bare minimum
And then you can rake in the cash by AI mass producing those worthless VNs, meanwhile everything else will he washed by propaganda, the same as now
Also, it looks like shit every time
>Nobody will publish those design possibilities
why?
Because it’s cheaper to cater to an audience with no standards. Speaking of, I hope you don’t think what you’re posting proves that ai art isn’t generic.
Bitch, b***h, b***h, moan, moan, moan.
Because AI works by creating an average of the images fed into it. Literally generating the lowest common denominator. It can not create new ideas, only rehash the most popular of old.
>Because AI works by creating an average of the images fed into it.
No it doesn't, it's actually generally programmed to NOT reproduce what it's fed. Meaning any concept it's learned will be interpreted differently than the source image. It's why you get hands with 25 fingers instead of 5 every time.
>learned
you got it but i have a problem with claiming ai has what humans call knowledge
yes i am annoying
I was just going to say you should stop being annoying then I read the second sentence lol. Stop making pointless semantics arguments. It's learning. No it's not smart. No it doesn't have to be. But it is learning to do very complicated tasks that technically take intelligence.
>technically take intelligence
to do.
Reminds me of old MTG card art
try to understand the technology you're talking about before you look like a moron
>Because AI works by creating an average of the images fed into it. Literally generating the lowest common denominator
literally not how it works
Literally how it works, as evidenced by the shit your posting.
>not a single actual argument against it in the entire thread
It's over. It is just... so fricking over bros.
against what
Against AI*
There's no drawback and you can't compete against it.
By the time you could learn how to draw, AI will already be making superior art and for cheaper anyway
>posts most generic boring shit that only gets worse the longer you stare at it
the slop you posted is argument enough.
>There's no drawback
all the AI posted here looks samey and not commercial-grade
post something commercial grade
Read an art book by a pro.
I'll wait.
Is there a way to find this pics?
they're sitting in my ai art folder, here's the prompt but you'll have to hunt down the disgaea lora if the link is still alive. It'll be in Ganker's archive somewhere
masterpiece, best quality, absurdres, adventurer's guild, young scribes and apprentices, tables, counter with shopkeeper,
full body, standing
single braid, hair between eyes, (short hair:1.2), (hair between eyes:1.2), cowboy shot, looking at viewer, expressive eyes,
(elf:1.1), final fantasy tactics, (beige skin:1.2), (huge breasts:1.2), pirate (Persecuted:1.3) __clothing wildcard 2__
ass
<lora:FFT:1> <lora:yoshida_akihiko:0.5> <lora:Disgaea2LoRA-000007:0.6>,
Negative prompt: (worst quality:1.4), (low quality:1.4), (bad_promptv2:0.2), (greyscale, monochrome:1.1)
Steps: 30, Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras, CFG scale: 5, Seed: 2795991485, Size: 360x560, Model hash: e7824b8acf, Model: PosterMixv4, Denoising strength: 0.5, Clip skip: 2, Hires upscale: 2, Hires upscaler: 4x_foolhardy_Remacri, Discard penultimate sigma: True
Keep in mind I was using wildcards too.
wow that looks like shit! How do you do it?
Lmao everything about this pic is fricked up. This is proof that AIjeets don't look at their slop for more than 5 seconds before posting.
>half the images are basically just the same image
wow nice
pretty big variance considering it was the same prompt 🙂
that looked like variance to you? i can only imagine how long you sat there hitting generate and cherrypicking out the garbage though.
I left it running while I took a shower lol. And yes, that is high amounts of variance 🙂
>It can not create new ideas
you can mix things together and get amazing results that seem like totallly new ideas and this has been a big part of human creativity and art since forever, but this is analogous to how much of modern garbage music is just remixes of other songs and ultimately is very similar to doing a remix/remake of a song
yeah but bro no one's interesting in seeing art that's basically someone else's picture but with dva's face slapped on it like come on let's not be lowest common denominator here.
shit's the modern equivalent of tracing over a deviantart base but with even less skill and effort.
thats not what it is. it is mixing old ideas but its not that inflexible. see my other post
ive long wondered if this was the case and im pretty sure it is not after thousands of prompts
>It can not create new ideas
>remake
>remaster
>reimaging
>remake
>remaster
>reimaging
>remake
>remaster
>reimaging
yeah, AI's looking pretty good right now
That's a very basic understanding of the technology which is used to explain it to people who don't get it. There's more nuance to it than that and you can skew the results in any direction you want with varying levels of coherence.
You are correct in that it isn't creating new ideas. But there aren't a lot of new ideas to create, depending on your definition of a new idea. How many permutations of a wizard or a castle can you come up with? Do any of them count as a new idea, or simply a twist on an old idea? There's nothing particularly magical about the human creative process. We take inspirations and then twist them to create something 'new'.
AI can be a fantastic tool for building those inspirations and translating them. Unfortunately, it's also probably going to be used to eliminate creative jobs and leave art as a hobby and not a potential career. The problem with that is that it is vastly lowering the amount of new input material which AI can use, so it's kind of a self-defeating prophecy. There will always be people who do these things because they can, though, regardless of the finances, so I guess it could be worse.
>any art style can be replicated
And yet every single AI generated anime prostitute image on Ganker looks the same. So no, it can't do that.
you're just wrong in reality
Get your eyes checked and stop consuming AIslop your pic and the one in the OP are extremely similar. But since you can't even see that I'll just assume you're not White.
Then why does every single AI waifu have the same exact face and body type with only swapped out props and clothing? Don't fricking kid yourself, I've been in /sdg/ since day one and 'default girl' has been a thing ever since LORAs started getting used.
You just have autism, literal face blindness,
we all know why, but ai "artists" will pretend to not.
How is
The same as
how is
not the same as
point being it's all just remixed images that needed to be fed into the algo to even get results.
a similar pose and similar elements doesnt prove its traced from an image it was trained on moron. i was going for a 50's aesthetic with exactly those kinds of poses
Trained off the same images, working as intended.
>sourcing little girl faces
have a nice day pedos
C U M
AI if nothing else is god tier at creating unique ... anything really. The quality is subjective but it's objectively unique. Look at this homie.
Reminds me of Magus from Chrono Trigger
>how will ai impact character design?
not much. there's ALWAYS going to be a major difference in illustration and creative art. i could see ai being used as some sort of pre-concept art visual inspiration generator for creative artists/designers, however right now i can't see it ever actually designing anything without it being overhauled and completely polished by humans.
i mean with shit like it could be super useful by just throwing random ideas at the designer and allowing them to see what is good and they like in it and discarding the rest, which will 100% result in a completely different product than what the ai made however its very possible it allows them to make more creative/original quality designs as a visual artistic 'food for thought'
otherwise though ai is kind of a meme, doesn't help when 99% of the posts is gigacoomer generic anime fantasy shit. if you can't tell the difference between illustrating something and making creative art like many of the posts in this thread can't i dont think you should try to contribute to a thread like this, and i'm really hoping anons dont think what theyre posting is evidence that ai art isnt generic/non-creative
ai is lacking in so many departments even if it manages to get a hold on proportions and detail it'll still be incredibly far off and the posts trying to defend ai as if its a perfect messiah are fricking dumb
>there's ALWAYS going to be a major difference in illustration and creative art.
AI will eventually be able to do both though.
he's a big blue guy
will ai eventually also make a cure for cancer? you're talking out of your ass, ai is definitely a hallmark in technological/scientific progression and can 100% be useful but as it stands you're nothing but a meme shill
>computer, give me a fricked up demon with tiny legs in Amano style
(He went to hell for skipping leg day too many times)
AI seems good enough at mixing and remixing avalable styles, but the originality would be hard to define. Things like this are already reminiscent of Final Fantasy's concept and game artstyle, this
is just western high fantasy, and this
is like a braverly default traceover. There IS originality by it being a unique piece, but the inspirations are clear; and that makes the difference.
...That being said, there's enough drama behind tools and gatekeeping, that there's problems here. The crisis predates and surpasses AI; since flash.
I can make unique art but I like using artists styles because I like artists styles.
I'll take "generic" over "woke pozzed shit."
>being reductive to entire subgenres of art just to jerk off to women with 6 fingers
this kills the future
You’re literally an NPC
die a player character or live to become what you hate
>i will eat these bugs because they have red label instead of blue
peak amerimutt
they seethe but name one pozzed homosexual DONUT STEEL original character that isnt some cringey Ricken Marty calarts shit. pro tip, you cant.
Option A
>corpos start using AI to make the most pozzed, social justice minmaxed garbage
Option B
>sike, its just option A again, there is no scenario in which anyone but israelites win using AI
This is just stupid proportions. Not even hot, just dumb.
>gay hands wrote this
As a hip man, you're moronic. OP is body-horror levels of disproportion.
Honestly bad anatomy is the funniest shit.
you're not fooling anyone
I'm not the one trying to.
I wish I could install AI on my spare computer but not for illustration, I need some writing assistance, NovelAI works well but I have to pay for it after a while.
blue white and gold looks so dang good
im mad Israel uses them.
Here's another.
Is this inpainted
I think I swapped one character but that was done in paint. If you want to get your mind blown though check this guy out. As far as I can tell it's pure txt-to-image which kinda blew my mind.
https://civitai.com/user/barusu07/images
This shit reminds me of disgusting Skyrim ENB presets that people present as "beautiful". Bro i love depth of field
Ignore that part then, I wasn't talking about the style but how coherent the stuff is. Maybe you're not a weeb so you won't understand that image I just posted but it's pretty cool.
whoa
AI is the reason why ideas guys never go anywhere
they finally have something on their hands that immediately generates whatever stupid shit they want and they still cant make anything worth a shit
Are there any AI driven databases yet? I want an ultimate booru that grabs everything porn related off the web and centralizes it so I no longer have to deal with 5 different sites to find specific art.
Hell make AI power tagging systems so shit doesnt get tagged with the wrong stuff
It'll be cool when there are reverse image searchers that use AI. So you can instantly find the source of any image from any move/anime/game/porn/thot whatever.
It's soulless.
Anyway to answer OPs question I think most professional artists will be using AI at least for stealing ideas from. Eventually it will be so good it will replace the need for artists though.
this one is hilariously bad and I'm not sure why you bothered to post this because now I'm going to judge your standards of art against this piece of shit where nothing is actually coming together at all due to the major flaws and inconsistency
>Eventually it will be so good it will replace the need for artists though.
literal cope fuel for people who can't draw or be creative
I'm literally parroting professional artists.
>professionals want normies to try-and-fail at what they do so they can continue to charge for their professional work
welcome to the real world moron
>the technology won't improve even though it has constantly!!!!
Okay.
why do ai artists train it with shitty art
The main model comes straight from /ic/
What should they train it with?
What the frick kind of question is this? how about shit that looks good???
>AI artists are coomers
>coomers have insanely low standards for porn
>therefore AI porn they make looks like art anons would make fun of on deviant art 10 years ago
its as shrimple as that
im so fricking thankful ai will ruin all the artists and voice actors jobs. They need to go get real jobs
>implying artists made a living with their art in the first place
Unless you mean AI is going to replace mcdonalds workers?
>how will ai impact character design?
it'll definitely help with the brainstorming and first few drafts but you'll never see a 100% AI made asset as the final product due to how shitty and inconsistent they are.
>but you'll never see a 100% AI made asset as the final product
But we already have and AI is only going to improve.
>But we already have
no we haven't as it's been touched up by human hands before being labeled "final"
There was literally a thread yesterday with some AI art for a DBZ gacha game and last year that one game used posters that were AI generated. There are some other examples too.
so two games?
>there are other examples that i cannot source
sure buddy
I can't source them because the stories I read were just about artists who were laid off or forced to use AI. Blizzard announced their AI art system too, I forgot about that one.
ai will heal gaming anon, it will start with AA devs using rouge open source ai, israelites will try to ban it, if we make it through the ai ban debate with out it, someone out there will make AAA coomgame that will sell billions and the coomboom will be ours
>jews will try to ban it
No they won't and the others who are trying will get blown the frick out by fair use laws.
You’re so stupid. You’re scared of the israelites but too moronic to see that as soon as AI becomes practical for mass use corporate ghouls are gonna buy the rights out and steer it whichever way makes them the most money. Which, if you weren’t aware, is to produce low effort coom slop like you just posted.
AI will always be free for anyone to use, meaning they will have no power.
You're delusional if you think ai art trained off copy-written art is going to fly once globohomosexual gets a hold of it.
You're delusional if you think anyone can stop it. Genuinely. It's far more open than piracy is.
when corpos say a word and start threatening shit via copyright the internet instantly takes the knee. I fully expect AI to become the next music style genre where it gets copyrighted out the ass, fails to stop piracy, then goes full 'freemium' where they allow you access to their AI (superior to freeware versions because money) and run frick tons of ads or demand premium subscriptions to use it X times a day
Unenforcable. The copyright route is stupid and everybody knows it. Tech regulations are also pretty much unenforcable, because the people passing the regulations don't understand computers very well, and so waste everybody's time asking the most idiot questions causing any potential regulatory laws to drag on for decades until they die of old age and are replaced by similarly tech illiterate coffin dodgers who start the cycle from scratch.
Now, pay to play AI models are a whole other story. Of course that shit is in the pipeline. That's just standard corpo frickery, if something can be commoditized, it will be commoditized. But the tech isn't going away and will likely remain available in it's entirety to the general public.
How do you make the distinction between that and a human artist who used copywritten material for reference in training?
One is very easily verifiable, the other - less so. I'd take traced slop over literal ai slop.
>AI will always be free for anyone to use, meaning they will have no power.
This has never been the case in recorded human history and it’s not gonna be the case now. Eventually they’re gonna smell the money and snatch it all up. Laws are gonna pass for “safety” in a few years and suddenly you’re gonna need to be paying license fees for any of the competitively robust programs.
You are mind broken.
No, just tired. I almost feel bad for you. They’re juicing human creativity for a profit you’ll never see and they tricked you into thinking it’s the solution instead of the problem.
An insult to life itself.
>the right thumb
>the fricking toes
lol
lmao
If it can recognize patterns, then it should be able to recognize that companies making money doesn't do jackshit fgor the rest of us.
>yet another aislop techbro "DUDE AI CAN DO ANYTHING AND ITS PERFECT AND FLAWLESS" thread where morons who have zero interest in gaming or art jerk off their computer golems
have a nice day, not vidya. How even the jannies aren't tired of you redditors shitting up all boards, I've got no idea.
>anons saying AI art isn't shit
How can you honestly say that it's shit anon? I'm genuinely curious.
you think this looks good?
Yes. You don't?
It looks "good" only if you spend 10 seconds looking at it while scrolling your twitter feed on a toilet.
As soon as you try to focus on the details it reveals to be utter shit.
>It looks "good" only if you spend 10 seconds looking at it
coincidentally you could say much the same about hitler's art
if you think that looks anything like ai slop you're actually brain damaged. there's a reason why people can call out ai art at a glance.
>that is ailmao
bro it literally isnt you mongoloid. you don't even need to check but you can if you're moronic.
less that it looks like AI slop and more that a lot of morons who think Hitler should've been accepted to art school hasn't actually taken a closer look at any of his works because they're all full of horrible inconsistencies and just boring compositions, which are the same complaints people have with AI, just human-made instead of computer-made
Yeah but even then - that point barely stands because the Hitler piece is literally leagues about how bad and inconsistent ai slop looks. It's not even a contest.
people get accepted into art school for splattering art on a canvas and bloviating about what it means
because what you don't realize is that image is likely 95% similar to something it's already been trained off of. ai isn't magically drawing new pictures, it's just minor remixing. if people didn't create art, there would be no ai art.
tl;dr you're giving too much credit to ai for what a person did
>likely 95% similar to something it's already been trained off of
ive considered this for a while and im pretty sure its not like this at all even in the case with loras where they use only a few pictures to train it on
train one yourself and try to pretend that isn't the case. people are just literally moronic thinking ai is magically creating new pictures when it's all shit people already drew.
if you've ever used an early public access ai art generator you already know this.
so like people who grow up then study by literally looking at other artists work and learning their techniques and maybe develop their own style by blending this knowledge together?
ai image generation is pretty much this simplified at an infant stage this point
You're not wrong in theory, but in practice ai is literally just remixing images that are fed into its algo. If you don't create new content for the algo, you'll just keep getting fed permutations of the same images literally forever.
>If you don't create new content for the algo, you'll just keep getting fed permutations of the same images literally forever.
You haven't even done napkin math about the amount of variety you're talking about. Use your brain you fricking moron. You can combine any two or more concepts reproduced in any of the billions of images. The AI creates an infinite amount of new art. Every model. And every model is different.
You don't need more images to feed AI.
yeah, but that's what real artists do too, right? the difference is that they usually had at least 10 years of actively developing their mixtures and maybe even more when they were just passively feeding on images like during childhood
I am hoping that technology will at least refine somewhat in time, although it won't save us from people with zero standards shitting out low quality content. Just look at something like a booru and how many trash pictures were made by people and liked by people...
>clicks gallery mode
>ignores thread
yep im here for the art
>no bros you don't get it ai is the future and it takes skill
>posts images of half naked women with sameface because its all trained off the same shit
if AI art is so great and totally superior, why do artists still get as many comissions as before?
what is AI art missing?
because all ai art looks like those "my champion your kingdom needs you" shit you'd see on the side of a porn site
AI only really shines with surrealistic and or lo-fi elements
as it is it sucks at realism and anything beyond subject and setting, getting it to draw a person using object or doing something can be extremely difficult unless you find a LoRa or something based on that exact object and jump through hoops, its more about being resourceful at times than being creative
You can easily train your own loras.
the tags seemed like a pain in the ass but maybe its easier now, got a good new guide or something? i tried long ago
3 months ago i had high hopes for AI. not much progress has been made and losing faith in it. everything is generic and bland.
It is going to replace moronic lefty artists. Down with the ESG!
Total artist death!
It will make some top tier boss designs at least
For chink gachas? maybe.
I'm about to make a chickslop ai art game. This thread is just proving it's more than possible to trick morons. Hell, they'll say they don't care and ask for more.
Modern equivalent of, like, that Queen's Blade browser game.
Wait until it gets to making 3D models and procedural animations. 2D is just the tip of the coomer's iceberg.
>and procedural animations
Not exactly the same but
https://files.catbox.moe/ueev4h.gif
We're probably months away. 2-3 years, at most. Well done on approximating motion, though.
Honestly i think the coolest part about ai art is being able to discern what it was trained off of even at a glance. Like tell me these three aren't immediately obvious.
I'm pretty sure the Zelda it spat out for me is half Scarlet Witch, but I'm not sure. Pic related came from a similar prompt, and is clearly an Amiibo.
this is the shit i meant about "ai art is 95% just an image that already exists".
I like this one
I've been finding a lot of use for AI in creating character art for a tabletop game I run. I have zero talent for art and don't have the budget to commission a portrait for every single throwaway NPC, so the technology has been an absolute godsend for me.
AIs biggest problem is it cant make an AI original character and then make more consistant art of it. Like if I made an AI oc I cant then tell it to take that one specific girl and make even more art of her. There will always be inconsistantcies with what it makes and since it needs to draw from massive amounts of data to make stuff I dont see how this issue could get resolved
>I dont see how this issue could get resolved
Just train it on that single picture and then shift through generated results to produce more training material
There are ways to get the same consistent character and minor details not matching don't matter at all for concept art. That's all finalized with the models or textures later on. Have you ever even seen character concept art?
Have YOU ever seen concept art? The details being consistent is literally the most important thing if you plan on actually do anything with it, This is dogshit.
this isnt totally true, depending on all the parameters you can get a subject that looks really similar in different poses and such without reducing seed variability and having results end up so samey that they're barely moving their bodies pose
why are AI artists so sensitive about their work? they didn't spend a thousand hours on one piece of work they spent one hours making a thousand pieces of work
they're trying to make bank anon, you have to try to fool morons into buying that it's not shit.
>Watermarked AIslop
>We know ai always goes completely based when allowed to freely recognize patterns?
Was this post written by an ai?
Still waiting on AI art to stop looking like cheep chinese dogshit. Thought that mark was supposed to pass a few months ago.
it looks like that because people use models trained on all the same asiatic shit. they're never going to look different. like tell me that isn't the exact same face as half the images in this thread.
>Still waiting on AI art to stop looking like cheep chinese dogshit
i dont really use it much for anything serious but i liked this result
I think we can all agree here that AI is alright at making meme material.
>people think melting two images together is peak art
y-yeah bros let's p-pay them for it.
i didnt say it was art
but here is one of my tinkerbells UwU
>gibberish signature
I laugh my ass off every time machine learning shills fail to edit this out
you can put "watermark signature" into the negative prompt to ensure it doesnt appear, id just sometimes rather not even take a chance that hinders or flavors the results in any way even slightly when i could remove it manually if i actually cared
>watermark in the corner
Yeah ai sure is good at not just shitting out images it's trained on.
>paintings have signatures
>i included a ton of terms that conveyed to it that it was drawing a painting
>it added a signature
why is this hard to understand? this isnt proof its tracing someone elses creation. you seem really biased and ill informed. get a good gpu and you will have a blast and you'll see its better than you imagined, so long as have the kind of mentality to use it well, not to say you have to be smart
>this isnt proof its tracing someone elses creation
this is how ai art works.
no it isnt
all the shit ive posted including this is old as frick too i could do better now
When I first saw pics like this one I got so hyped for AI + game making.
>we will live to see the day where all that cool vidya box art from 30+ years ago is revived and brought to life in 3D video games
The coolest thing AI can do is accidentally frick up an image in a way that inspires a neat idea in a person who sees it. A post apocalyptic setting where the buildings are actually spaceships merged into the environment is cool, but the idea is clearly a complete frick up on the AIs part.
Best post of the thread
sexo
wrong pic
gIve huuuMan sEed to cuuuoontinue existAAaaance
Fix the fingers, Habibi.
I was trying to figure out how to get a particular kind of boob, then I will focus on stabilizing the rest of the image.
uuuooohh....
>Menarche: The Reckoning.
Oh anon i tripped do want milkes?
Yes.
>Bottom left signature
LMAO AIgays always shoot themselves in the foot.
cute
a similar attempt at cinderella
>Xitter gays would charge you $300 for this
>With a 3 day wait period
>meanwhile Ai can make this masterful art piece in 10 minutes.
>implying xitter gays could draw that
that's the biggest thing people fail to realize about AI art, most artists cannot compete with the quantity OR quality
I would get behind human artists if they came at AI with no seethe, and a rational brain. Talking about how AI art IS dangerous to the artists, because it enables multi-billion dollar corporations to easily replace human workers. Instead they just screech, fling shit, and call it trash.
>and call it trash
but it literally just is. there's no need for more of a discussion of that. it's bottom of the barrel melted garbage that only really appeals to people who want, "princess peach naked spread legs big thighs lingerie camel toe"
cope and seeth. you've lost.
I don't even draw man, i have nothing in this fight. You guys are just literally brain damaged npcs if you don't see this shit for what it is even when it's presented right in front of you.
what exactly is the rational take then
literally every actual argument is met with "LOL DRAWSHITS SEETHING" or some variation thereof followed by posting more AI shit as though it proves any kind of point
>uh no actually this piece is beautiful you can't deny it
>it's goku with 8 fingers on each gigantic ass hand
>"Is AI good for you" OP
>people that actually want to discuss whether AI is worth it
>tends towards "well it ultimately looks like shit and can't really go farther right now but in the future it'll definitely be a real issue"
>inevitable "COPE AND SEETHE DRAWgayS AND ARTSLAVES YOU'VE BEEN REPLACED CAN'T RUN FOREVER THE FUTURE IS NOW" by pajeets and failed /beg/gars
>post lopsided and clearly fricked up AI images and act like nothing's wrong with them like it's some kind of "gotcha"
>literally every feasible argument gets boiled down to "nuh-uh"
this is every thread btw
>get told no it isn't
>seethe about it
this is you. the frick more do you want
for the record we're at the "spam post AI images" part right now
>xitter
have a nice day
NOW
>meanwhile Ai can make this masterful art piece in 10 minutes.
this isn't even the first time you've seen that image in this thread. and it wouldn't exist if someone hadn't already draw it before it got fed into the ai.
And that artist will no longer be needed their usefulness in the world has been achieved.
What happens when you have to leave the computer, moron? AIslop "skills" aren't transferable to other mediums meanwhile a real artist can create art wherever they want even on the ground, ceiling, or walls.
>Whoa bros, an engraving machine that's been around for decades. It's truly the future!
Luddites and skeptics are on the wrong side of history. With each passing year from now on out, the world will become exponentially more unrecognizable.
>this isn't even the first time you've seen that image in this thread.
what the hell are you talking about
>and it wouldn't exist if someone hadn't already draw it before it got fed into the ai.
yes you've been saying this nonstop and you're still wrong
just scroll up like 5 seconds or read the thread moron
completely random results, no cherrypicking
>NOO ITS JUST TRACING
shut the frick up already dumbass lol
bro that's literally permutations of the same 3 images. you can't be serious here
>goalpost: moved
lmao
I claimed ai is all remixes of preexisting media almost to a t and the only thing you did was prove that with a collage. With 0 awareness.
actually i just checked the info on these and i turned down seed variability strength to intentionally get more similar results. so by reducing that or turning it off completely id get more variations but i didnt want that
>there's a variable for how close you want your aislop to be to the source images
If you turn it up, you'll just start getting images sourced off different pictures. Like, yes, that is exactly why almost every picture you posted looked sourced off the same shit, because you turned a variable down that made it exactly that way.
youve been saying this for the entire thread and you're moronic and wrong and sorta schizo
yes, ai is ENTIRELY derivative of other works by humans or real things its trained on but so is pretty much all art
it is not just copying a single image like someone tracing something
Yes that's why were still only making cave paintings.
I replied to you once. But lmao at the cope in this post
>multiple people have the same moronic idea
not shocking but forgive me for thinking you're the same moron as someone else who has been saying it nonstop
>multiple people tell you a fact
>must be samegayging
lol
give literally 1 example.
ONE
N
E
example
ONE
MEASILE
EXAMPLE
of an AI image which was copied off a real image
out of all the AI posted all over the internet. no one has a single legit example
COPE
O
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moron
>yes, ai is ENTIRELY derivative of other works by humans or real things its trained on
your words
>techbeggar dont how it works
lmao
what aislop posters don't realize is that this is exactly what their collages look like to people who aren't npcs
>IT DOESN'T COPY PASTE SIRS, IT USING THE NOIS-ACK!
KEK
>16 times more monsters to kill
By Eileen's bushy crow c**t, this is a fricking nightmare!
You're right it doesn't copy it just takes the data and recreates it somewhere else.
nearly all of human progress in every single aspect imaginable has been mostly derivative of past things, many things considered the most innovative or groundbreaking are just two other peoples ideas smashed together
Yeah that's why were still just drawing cave paintings. We are just machine learning algorithms that only have cave drawings in our models.
human progress is all about repeating the same shit over and over again and only getting slightly better each time
Yes art progress happened because humans just did cave paintings over and over again.
Yes, they created more cave paintings, but the cave paintings weren't direct deviations of existing pieces fed through a fricking machine bro. Why are you morons acting so dense just to attempt to make an invalid point.
they were fed through brains which are biological machines AI aims to replicate
Machine learning is not the human brain. It's not even an AI.
not an argument
You said some dumb shit and I told you why it was dumb.
>DUUURRR HUMAN BRAIN JUST A BIOLOGICAL MACHINE. HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS SO TRIVIAL
Black person
>acts like a moron instead of like a human because he has no argument
fricking loser
You said ai is trying to mimic the human brain and then I told you why you're dumb.
Aims. Implies hasn't. Implies doesn't. Doesn't mean anything. We aren't at that point where we can envision the complex calculations that would go into divining a machine to see with its own eyes and see things recognizably separate. You're arguing about God's ability at that point which is a hypothetical you can endlessly play with.
Oh so we are different then AI.
Some of you might not be by your responses.
it improved basically entirely because they did this AND because they created BETTER TOOLS to create art with
guess what AI is?
a tool. and its a tool which has been and will continue to be improved over time
the absolute persistent delusion of you homosexuals is amazing
You're definitely a tool that's for sure.
AI is mimicking what we do, deal with it already.
Yes it is just mimicking. It can't do anything new.
Everything it does it new by any metric.
AI is objectively more creative than people are. This is scientifically proven, it's math.
You will never get over this will you? Fricking morons!
>brown hand
everytime
Everyone knows AI can only copy paste and it's only impressive to easily amused midwits such as yourself.
What do you mean copied? That's not how it works, it integrates images, you can easily spot the styles like sakimichan and the like.
That's it, really.
He's trying to argue semantics because he got called a moron.
Any time people say ai slop can create anything unique should just show them this.
>specific prompt gives specific results
whoah
>post 16 images
>it's actually just permutations of 3 existing pieces with minor edits
you really showed him anon
seething handcel
no you said it was traced. but yes, it can take concepts, styles, characters etc from media and bring them together, thats pretty much what its all about, and in all truthfulness, this is what most of even the finest artistic media of all forms has always been, its all almost entirely derivative of other works if not just based as much as possible on something from the natural world
now i feel like im wasting my time here when i could be doing something like exploring this idea and fixing the faces with inpainting too if i still need to
3 month, 900 USD and it's actually how much it's worth bruh, there is actually a reason people pay for that instead of using AI.
Why the frick would anyone pay 900 bucks for a picture that you can get in five seconds using AI?
The same reason why a 500 years old handcrafted table costs 1000x more than one you can buy over IKEA.
Handcrafted things have inherent value that comes from the skill, rarity and difficulty of doing that thing.
>Handcrafted things have inherent value that comes from the skill, rarity and difficulty of doing that thing.
no it comes from the rarity of the item itself and difficulty in finding/owning it
no one is paying a million dollars for some masterclass wood figurine carving grandpa who hasnt been dead for 100+ years
>no one is paying a million dollars for some masterclass wood figurine carving grandpa who hasnt been dead for 100+ years
you guys need to start using ai for your replies - this shit is indecipherable
> Mass produced shit is cheap
Calling things waste is either a terrible speech habit, or a sign of an impure mind, but just because items are lacking does not make them literal waste.
Learn to assess reality correctly, you look like an uncreative thug.
Yes? That's the point isn't it?
> images
> art
They are not the same thing.
When people go watch a movie, pay for a game, watch a concert, they are paying for the artistry behind it, this is literally why it's entertainment, we like watching people doing impressive shit by using their skills, passion and talent.
If anyone can do that shit, or is too mundane, nobody ain't gonna pay to see it because it has no entertainment value.
>no guys i promise it isn't just shitting out the same images its trained on
>comicbookartistusingthesamestockimage100times.jpg
moving the goalpost
TWO MORE WEEKS BRO
I like how the hands in this 'art' are just pasted from a photo.
AI art is and should be considered its own medium, separate from actual art. As an artist and programmer this seems obvious to me and people I work with, but twitter (/v/) wants to mix the two up when they absolutely cannot be. AI art is cool but is not a substitute for art.
they're both pictures
We're both mammals, but I'm human while you're a monkey
What? I never disagreed with that.
It's the same medium, image.
Pedantry
you're trying to create a distinction in nothing because of a frail ego, because of butthurt.
sorry what did I even say that offended you? Clearly “it’s based on images so it’s the same medium” is fricking regarded and anyone who’s spent time making or looking at art knows this. So please use your words.
we call this piece, "malfurian twisted blade blue skin baldurs gate elune"
Just like how the dingy motel and the hotel nearby are both places to spend the night, but most people will go for the hotel
AI is really good at making landscape art
Hmm what is going on in this threa-
>Soon to be out of the job artist seethe
lol
>anon still believes AI is the future with all the pending lawsuits against openAI
l m a o
2 lawsuits and one was dropped and the other will lose to fair use
there's 23 lawsuits open against them right now. can't find a single story about a case being thrown out. and fair use only applies if it's non-profit.
https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/ai-class-action-lawsuit-dismissal-hearing-stabilityai-midjourney-deviantart-1234675071/
>likely
>literally zero reading comprehension
Their entire case was faulty, the judge said they had no chance with it and told them to redo it. But they have no grounds that's why they were making shit up.
find the actual transcripts instead of cherrypicked excerpts by some israelite blogger
the case hasn't been dropped
Leep telling yourself that, Karla. Imagine defending that moronic c**t, couldn't be me.
using proper nouns should be an auto ban
I am so sick of random schizo boogiemen
are you illiterate? this is an opinion by a fricking journalist not a ruling. and it's almost a month old if it was thrown out you would've posted that.
Oh I didn't know that.
Nothing like them fat cats can't pay someone under the table to handle. I for one am glad to support my corporate overlords and be on the right side of history for once.
>your criticising AI?
>heh, seems like you made a fatal mistake here
>well you see you cant criticize AI art because all the tools are new and not very good now
>but maybe, sometime, eventually, AI will be able to do all the things I say it can do
>but nothin personal mr artist, dont blame me for putting you out of a job
>ai art has been around for years
>no jobs lost
>lawsuits galore against the makers
but you think this is "winning"
why do AI gays assume everyone that doesnt like their early 2000s deviant art tier porn are twitter comission artists?
Because those are the one's seething. K, next question?
AIgays have zero intelligence that's why they rely on computers to do everything for them.
because if you don't have an agenda it means "their" art is actually just shit and they can't handle that
the biggest hurdle they've ever had in their life is giving a prompt to an ai, cut them some slack
99% of AI art is shit, just like 99% of human art is shit. Have you been to deviantart?
yet AI artists are 1000x more smug and condescending about their garbage art than human artists. Its ironic that every AIgay will go on about how entitled and stuck up actual artists are but when they get their hands on a tool to make as much art as they want they behave just like them
I'd like to thank AIfriends for making me, and many others realise how much more I can charge for my art with a clear conscience.
Thanks to you, more people can appreciate real art 🙂
who cares about some gay drawings make a good music creating ai
It'll be cool if a good AI system for music comes out. Where you can just input a song and say "more like this" and get a shit ton of good stuff.
Who cares about some gay music, make the AI VA mods.
an AI assisted music making program would be the sickest shit ever. Would unironically lead to a revolution in music
AI won
>people actually jerk off to this
its absolute kino. cry more
We get it your a homosexual have a nice day Black person
>you have standards for your porn?
>AIIIIIIEEEE YOUR A gay!!!!!!
keep coping
you might as well coom to 2 circles and a dot in the middle
yes, me, right now
who cares? go fricking die.
i love watching doodledudes melt down over ai. they really think they can stop it
AIgays are the same type of people that would pay microsanctions to skip the entire game and then have no clue what they're doing or talking about as evidenced from these threads. It's fitting that it's been a year and the only place where AIslop has taken off is in shitty, low effort mobile games/apps.
Weekly slop thread.
>See 10/10 AI art
>Notice they are never holding a weapon or object that makes any kind of sense
>Even if somebody renders 100 times and gets a feasible object in the hand, it's held in a nonsensical way or mutates the fingers
>Even getting tre exact same character design from a different angle is impossible because the AI can't replicate the same details from other angles and will instead make new ones
I proompt a couple hours a day and have 14 different models on my computer, but the consistency and anatomy of anything but basic poses is still far from usable
AI is fun, far from perfect but it lets me make anime tiddy. Sometimes I even stop being lazy and breakout my tablet to fix and or change things but thats rare due to how fricking lazy I am. I also love when it does weird shit, like the bleeding bulding on the right.
>Not 1 SINGLE image of an AI created character holding a gun/weapon without the hands becoming flesh abominations or the weapon being complete fever dream-tier
bro you don't understand it'll get better over time
we just need to feed it a million images of exactly what you want to generate
>He really thought this was a mic drop
Lmao wtf is going on with that musculature?
>moves goal post immediately when btfo'd
Lmao
>We know ai always goes completely based when allowed to freely recognize patterns?
What did Kumar mean by this?
It probably won't change them in any noticeable way. It's totally useless for anything specific. You want a girl, great it can do that. Want a girl that fits within this certain need for the a certain artistic vision. Worthless.
It will be something artists use a tool to help spark their imagination, like a mood board. And be something used to fill out characters that do not matter like background NPCs.
Can anyone post an example of two characters interacting in a way that makes sense or a character wielding a sword or assault rifle in a way that makes sense? I want to ideas man some stuff but I'm not gonna spend time downloading and getting it to work if the tech isn't at this point yet. I installed the AI companion voice for Skyrim and it's fun though.
I downloaded a reverse scissors lock lora the other day but haven't used it yet
>too lazy to spend five minutes fixing in photoshop
you're an ideas man all right
>That gun
>Trigger on the top
>Random extra piece hanging off the stock
???
I keep on laughing at all those people b***h about AIs, or people making unreasonable proclamations. Imagine being so destabilized, or get so potty-mouthy over mere math algorithms.
Stupid manchildren.
If that's how you all b***h now, I'd be in hysterics if some others will be bold enough to unroll an AGI in public.
you can go ahead and try to laugh at people once you finally stop choking on your clumsy english
A valid criticism, and it's good that you made it, but firstly, I'm not OP, and secondly, dealing with linguistical ineptitude is far easier than it is with childishness or other psychological issues, it just takes time.
Just look at them all, dude.
There are almost no actually worthy reasons to condemn any AI tech, yet with their impure minds, with their pretenses to "taste" they b***h about it all.
They will condemn anything that breaks their little shells of their worldviews, yet they won't even try to assess matters correctly or justly.
They're irrational and stupid, and rather enthusiastic to hate. Were it up to me, I'd make no tech for others at all.
I contemplated making a home computer product line with some unique tech systems of my own just so that I wouldn't have to worry about planned obsoletion or integrated spyware, but then I thought, even with limiting myself to custom orders, what are the odds that some meatbag won't just break it for fun? Nah.
Reminder that these are the BEST cherrypicked pics that the AIgays could find after clicking generate for thousands of hours. If you use AI right now for yourself, you will get back to back abominations with 15 fingers and 4 legs. Maybe in 2 more weeks it'll be fixed like they say.
Nobody's gonna buy your art, bro
Were there skirts like that in Claymore? Looks Roman-ish.
why is there always camel toe. like there can't be a single image that isn't coomer garbage.
why are you gay
I just want someone to prove to me this isn't just a toy for coombrains. Likely will never happen.
>real women have camel toes
>AI knows this
>when creating women it will sometimes create camel toes
>because it's realistic
just admit you are a troony
we both know that isn't how ai prompts work, unless the ai was literally only trained on porn
Realistically...they will probably hire less artists and then move onto 1 poor person doing everything at half the pay in half the time and demand them make art for 150 characters and hire them at part-time to avoid insurance and pay them minimum wage but the job will be remote. Instead of paying more programmers or people to work on the mechanics of the game, they will either pocket the money saved or use it post ads like raid shadow legends.
OpenAI's system will let you talk to an AI and get it to create art for you. In the end you won't even need that 1 poor person.
Ok now make that exact same character with the exact same out fit in the exact same environment in another pose from another perspective.
Its doable but would take a few hours of tweaking, regenning and fixing. Still nothing compared to the dozens of hours it'd take to draw the image from scratch.
>Its doable but would require actual effort instead of me just clicking a button.
Lmao everytime.
thats much easier than changing the environment.
which goes to show what you know about how any of this works. it would likely happen with just the next random seed, though it may require turning down seed variability so it doesnt change it that much
Then fricking do it. No one in this thread has shown me anything useful.
im not the one who posted it and i dont have the means to do something just like that
Bro did you SEE Samus with a toddler face and camel toe? We're living in the future.
i love Fate/aislop thats my favorite in the series
Yes probably. With a person creating the Mercy Lora and the Dva Lora and then telling the ai to make me 150 pictures of Mercy and Dva in summer/halloween/cyberpunk/steampunk/disney/chrismas/spring/robot/mecha/ etc style skins and then just rolling those out.
The thing that will then come into play is extreme choice diversity.
You could dump everything in huge batches but people might not know what to buy because theres too many choices.
But it would probably go each character's got a skin for steampunk this patch. Then cyberpunk next patch etc.
Buy all 150 skins for each character with this battlepass for only $100.
Get your pick of 1 skin at f2p battle pass lvl 50 after 2 weeks of time played.
Get your pick of a 2nd skin at f2p battle pass 100.
Buy the battlepass for $20 and get your pick of 5 Skins and 5 more when you get 50 and 10 more at 100!
Buy 50 levels for $60.
Or 1 level for $2!
But remember you can buy all 100 for $100 a $20 value!
Buy all the skins this year for only $500!
thats literally what lora etc training does anon
What about I don't pay any cent on AI generated shit genius?
what? no im saying how much you will pay to acquire the ai skin in the game itself via the battlepass etc or ingame currency
theyre not passing that savings onto the consumer
they pocket the savings not you
they just have more things now to sell to you that cost them less money to make
Indies will have a zero cost emergence yes similar to youtubers getting phones and harddrives and davinci resolve for free and it costs very little to create content now and so that will extend into games. Visual novels and youtube movie stuff will probably explode too once the ai movie making ability comes into a thing.
Cosmetics would probably also see a huge explosion. Make a 3d model hat for mercy and use *wildcard* as the style for the hat.
Sell each hat for $2 for the sims style character customization.
Thats also a scary direction. Where skins are a thing and individual custom items could be a thing. Slap an NFT value onto them and a blockchain thingy and you got yourself an IRL currency system like the csgo and tf2 hat gambling.
Those are just excuses for people who cant draw. Eventually it wont matter once ai is better and those people will be making stuff on par with artists. Right now its artists who can draw and they use ai for 90% of the work and polish the last 10%. If they adapt and grow with the ai, they should be able to stay ahead. The skill floor has plummeted and the roof has blown off entirely and nobody knows where the roof actually is right now.
theyre actually making several ai's for music and theres one making background noises and things as well for prompting that I heard of. So soon you will be able to say generate me light jazz outside of a restaurant while people talk amongst themselves with a nearby city street and a train is heard in the far distance and it is nighttime and nighttime insects are making insect noises with an occasional owl hooting far away in a tall tree.
>theyre actually making several ai's for music and theres one making background noises and things as well for prompting that I heard of. So soon you will be able to say generate me light jazz outside of a restaurant while people talk amongst themselves with a nearby city street and a train is heard in the far distance and it is nighttime and nighttime insects are making insect noises with an occasional owl hooting far away in a tall tree.
They're not touching music because they can get sued when it recreates copyrighted work.
One guy already copyrighted all of the creatable patterns for music anon.
>Eventually it wont matter once ai is better and those people will be making stuff on par with artists.
Two more weeks.
Everything is just patterns.
Your stupidity and memes about covid wont save you from reality.
The fact that you fall for an causal relationship between one thing and another completely random unrelated thing is literally proof that if covid was a psyop, and even if it wasn't it 100% worked on brainwashing you in conditioning your brain to think in that pattern of "two more weeks" where everything from toasters to a specific illness to ai development all share some deep space time causal relationship in their development and advancement. My poptarts were burnt this morning therefore its going to be hot on thursday 2 weeks from now. Thats insane schizo thinking anon.
Patterns are just patterns. Flying a jet is no different than drawing a picture or making a sound. Just patterns.
Here's a tourney they did 3 years ago with multiple ai's and then a professional fighter pilot against the tourney winning ai and it absolutely demolished him even without him not actually facing any of the real world passing out and g forces that would be on his body.
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>all that stupid shit
Take your meds bro.
lockheed martin BRUH some gay mexicans?
heron? birds are gay bruh
aurora? sun a star bruh
fighter pilot? yawn shi bruh 1v1 me bf2042
It's not even an AI, Frick face
I think you're really short sighted about the cost of things. AI will drive costs to basically zero because there will be no labor to produce the stuff.
lol non, companys will just pocket the increased profit
Other companies will undercut them and the technology will be available for anyone to use.
The frick even is that pelvis. AI fails again
What's also silly is that all those imbeciles have an indignity to complain about a generalized content creation tool. It's an easy way to bolster some ancient games or text games on call, as well as work with prototyping, etc.
But actual mathlab tier prototyping tasks tools aren't available in public if anyone makes them at all. Oh well, homebrews!
When will AIgays realize the hate they get isnt about the AI generated art itself and instead how they behave?
the thing about AI sloppa is that not matter how much they build over it, no matter how much art they feed it, it will never be autonomous and self developing, frick, it will never have wisdom, a part of art, even more important that intelligence, honestly most pro-ai shit reeks of normalgayging, and the utter corporization of the internet, AIgays dont want artists gone because is good for humanity, they want artists gone because they are people they dont like, just like /misc/tards will rant against lgbt queerdo shit but lick a femboy's butthole not because they hate homosexualry, but because they hate homosexuals. AI gays will say they hate israelites, but support slop, because they dont hate greed or damaging humanity as a whole, they hate israelites because they feel they stole their god-given right to rule over the rest of humanity, they say shit like "it will democratize art!" because they think using their time pursuing anything other total consumerism is bullshit, ultimately if one thinks about it for a single moment, AI gayging is the most pure abandoment of the human spirit, forcing everyone into utter stagnation to fulfill their sense of self-righteousness...
The Anti-Spiral
>it will never be autonomous and self developing
GPT-4 + Dall-E creates autonomously and can fix errors in images. And they aren't going to stop, The unreleased Dall-E 3 is like 500x better than Dall-E 2.
Yes it can check the source material and compare it to the thing it just referenced. That's not making anything new.
goated reality posting
a lot of the whinging AIgays have with artists has always had the vibe that they didnt hate artists for being homosexuals but instead hate them because they want the kind of popularity and dick riding they see artists get on twitter. Its like people who forever hold on to petty grudges and never let it go
It's easier for AI artists to get twitter followers than it is for traditional artists. You've never seen this kind of "whiging". People just hate artists because they're idiots who cry all the time and ruin video games with homoshit or censorship.
I have never seen more complaining about twitter artists than in AI threads. Everyone knows they are homosexuals who draw garbage 99% of the time but AIgays bring it up so often its like that parody comic of a KKK meeting where one guy cant help but add how much he hates Black folk to every other sentance
Because they're the people in these threads crying about AI. Have you ever been to /ic/?
>it will never have wisdom
Define wisdom
Machine learning algorithms aren't aware anon. It doesn't know what it's doing
>artists
>wisdom
Shit bait have a nice day.
>/pol/
>/pol/
>/pol/
holy shit, go punch a wall dude. artists arent sacred you weirdo, ART is. isnt that what you type of dipshits always say to fill countries full of illegals?
> images that could be album covers was a super interesting account with wacky/curious photography
> they switched to AI generated images entirely
> mfw
Had to unfollow, sad state of affairs
uh
wtf
do they shopped REAL HUMAN HANDS into this AI slop? XD
lol
lmao even
Holy shit they really did. What the FRICK is that? Didn't even notice.
why is every aiart thread flooded with 1girl shit
AI posters are heterosexual men.
thats because AI hasnt figured out how to make good looking penis yet
AI posters are the trannies of art.
>he says as he posts 1 girl
the majority of resources have gone into the thing the majority of people are into, and it feedsback. its a shame so much focus is on women and sex but thats a problem with the community, not the software
Shitty porn for people who still get off to 2D tags is the only thing ai is good for.
Only coomers care about AI.
ah yes, "brown man with sword granblue fantasy fighting post archway". my favorite piece.
>another AI shill thread
>AI art.
>It makes kinkaid look good!
>coomboom
Why is everyone talking like they have brain damage
Too many covid vaccines?
Why does she have real human hands photoshopped in?
This is the same as electronic music, some people liked it and some were "hurr durr if you cant play an instrument you are not a real musician!".
AI can produce whatever you want, you say these images are slop but if a person draws like that you wouldnt say that
did electronic music get accompanied with the same egotistic smug homosexualry that AI slop makers have?
Are you perhaps presuming that all people with an interest in this are unreasonably smug, or that some anonymous dorks on this Sumerian clay tablet board market constitute a mass of reasonable, well-spoken, well-adjusted and inquisitive people?
I mean, come on.
Same can be said about people thinking real artists are all twitter leftists from California
Unquestionably.
Electronic musicians still have to compose their work.
But they dont have to play it, is telling the machine what to play.
Prompting is way less effort then composing.
>press arpeggiator button
>hit play on drum machine
>copy root note of arppegio notes to bass, change to fifth or whatever sometimes
or even better
>play samples from some music with samples from other music
im now a musician
Yeah and no one is going to buy that.
>repeating 4 second guitar sound (possibly a synth)
>simple drum track
>relatively simple bass synth sequence, could be bass guitar but really not much of a difference if you're being honest, basslines are easy, bass guitar is easy
>synth arpeggios
one of the best songs by one of the best bands of all time
cope
Yes I can be comedically reductive too.
>duuuhh instraments go up down scale
>ders a drum durrr
>it so easy
lol fricking moron.
it is easy if you are resourceful and experienced with this kind of stuff and have a good ear, there are thousands of people who have made similar tracks to that one and will never make shit off of it because they dont have the same level of fame or many other similar or better songs to get their name out there
you gays know nothing about artistic media and culture
Yeah it's so easy bro. Just out and become a best selling artist.
i didnt say becoming famous was easy moron. the entertainment industry has insane levels of nepotism and gatekeeping
right now they're having apple and spotify require dolby atmos mixes in order to force out bedroom recording studio artists who dont have very expensive licensed dolby atmos recording hardware and software and take control of the music industry again, basically increasing the barrier of entry based on a higher buy in cost
Sounds like some cope for not being talented enough.
are you really going to sit here and deny that the entertainment industry ridden with nepotism, to attempt to gaslight a random person into thinking they're a worthless artist because you disagree with them on a tangentially related topic? you're starting to make me feel sorry for you for being this desperate
Cope
you dont even know what dolby atmos is you stupid Black person. its a mix that requires having like 10 microphones placed all around a studio and im pretty sure it requires hardware just to generate a file with a specific license which is the worst part of it all. this is an insidious attempt by the music industry to force bedroom producers out of the industry and make it all about giving fame and fortune to themselves and their friends
Cope. Composition is way harder then being a proompter
"being a prompter".
what does this mean to you? selling stuff on twitter? selling commissions? how do you define art? the closest approximation is arguably something which only has aesthetic value, is created by a human and is worth enough to be paid for
either way, this is a new technology, meaning literally anyone who gets in on it soon wont have to be that talented to get very far and make tons of money off it
and you're here b***hing that its worthless, eliminating the chance of even considering doing such a thing
im not advocating anyone even tries to do that but it should give you some perspective on how moronic you are being. this is what a luddite sounds like. "this thing sucks and is worthless" he says, as people make tons of money off it, doing what he describes as easy. pathetic. if its so easy why arent you making money off it moron? you're all full of shit and stupid as frick honestly
>The coolest thing an artist can do is accidentally frickup their art in a way that inspires a neat idea in themselves to progress from
you fricking morons literally know NOTHING about art. this is why i dont even think you're seething about being outclassed by AI in your own skill, you obviously have none, you have no experience with the creative process. i cant imagine what makes you so averse to AI besides being a stupid homosexual who goes along with normie opinions and or is afraid of change or technological progress
>you fricking morons literally know NOTHING about art. this is why i dont even think you're seething about being outclassed by AI in your own skill, you obviously have none, you have no experience with the creative process. i cant imagine what makes you so averse to AI besides being a stupid homosexual who goes along with normie opinions and or is afraid of change or technological progress
lol take your meds bro
Not even close, even with electronic music you still have to create your own beat or pay rights to a sample from someone else.
These things can make fake twitter markings now?
Usually they come out all blurry or glyphy looking for me
Ai really can't do hands. It's insane.
Nothing insane about it. As far as I see it, they don't train AIs on generalized 1 to 1 anatomic models of human body, but on masses of art images, so the AI has no reference points or an actual general purpose dataset which can be applied to any art style.
They're too crude about it.
If I made an art program it would make a wire frame of objects then paint over that.
That's a good way to go about it. To use AIs well as an actual appliance, as well as to hybridize it with drawing, there needs to be an actual software that combines that with 3d modeling, on-call texture generation, serious math software, and some other things, plus plug-in expacs.
Imagine, you draw a 3d image, you pass over some things, create a frame, then you open an AI microlab to focus on a layer, say, a patch of skin, 1cm2, 1mm thin, and just go nuts with detail on it.
And little by little, skin pore by skin pore, with your own skill and actual AI and imagination you create 100% photo realistic, or fantastic but abysmally detailed (!!!!!) images.
That's just the beginning.
No frick AI. It's just going to make a bunch of crap I didn't want.
Terrible is an engineer, a programmer, a mathematician, an artist, who doesn't understand his own tools, or complaints about items with explicit designs not being able to do things beyond that design.
And if you have no expertise, then complaints about matters beyond your competence are rather pointless.
No it's just going to make a bunch of shit like it always does because it's just referencing data in it's model.
That depends entirely on what AI it is.
>it's insane
Is it? Looking at AI art, my brain automatically wants to defocus one eye to make the picture make sense. Each pixel is generated based on the one next to it, so one pixel 30 pixels away from another, doesn't necessarily have to make sense according to the algorithm. It's all an aggregate and approximation. When you have something so line-dependent and numerous like fingers (not to mention hard to master for the people these models are trained on), getting a deep learning model to figure it out is a fricking tall task. I don't see that happening reliably - people using AI models will be checking fingers until we're all long gone.
it can when its trained on hands sufficiently and the parameters are conducive
thing is people would rather not waste its knowledge on that so much as other details and hands are hard to do so it takes a sizeable chunk of the model to get it
It can, just not consistently. It'll take 3D geometric data to solve the hand problem. Because even photography "can't do hands".
99% of AI art you've seen is just some dude playing the prompt gacha and picking whatever looks best, with zero or minimal fixes. There's nothing stopping a person from creating an AI generated image with full intent and control using OpenPose, ControNet and other tools to extract exactly what they want. It's just much more fun to pull the slot machine lever and seeing what comes out.
It's just a tool, why so much seething?
its because of how they behave.
>It's just a tool, why so much seething?
Artists can't compete so they act like luddites. And even if they can compete their egos and worth have been slighted, similar to what the camera did to painters way back then. Or the video camera to artists of that time too.
Art isn't a competition, except in cases where it actually is.
Simply unreasonable.
They're just really emotional.
Crying about how the tools work isn't relevant in the grand scheme. They just hate the tool.
The only tools are the AI users themselves, Emad wants you to train his AI free of charge and without any consequences of using copyrighted work since he can fault the blame onto people such as yourself instead of the company.
Is that why he released it open source and offline? You're right but you're also ignoring the reality that 99% of Stable Diffusion users aren't doing RLHF. 100% of Midjourney users on the other hand...
>released it open source and offline
You're a gullible moron if you believe it's going to remain that way forever. Emad is waiting for it to get better before he starts charging for it/selling it to other companies. You'd be the same type of moron who would have thought Facebook/Google would have never sold out their data years ago and that the companies are on YOUR side? Lmao.
>Of course bros, it's exactly like the camera! You remember when the camera scraped the internet of everyone's data in order to make a quick buck?
Me either, Rajeesh.
its mostly this.
I dont see too many twitter artists posting 32K res images of elevated art cathedrals roofs made from their art. oh right because it would take them fricking 14 years to do it and because they draw at a sonic the hedgehog fanart level
YOU ART WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS REAL ARTIST tm OFFICIAL COMMISSIONED DND ART
I dont think this is the gotcha you think it is. This is better than any ai generated garbage.
Btw, you lost, this is pure AI pajeet cope, DnD already banned AI shit from their books
smelly pajeet hands wrote this
btw you DO NOT REDEEM, cope u fecking AIsheet U FEK
>artists cant compete
it always comes back to muh artists boogeyman
The definitive video to prove you wrong.
Not every artist is dishonest.
man one video of some homosexual tumblrina really proves that everyone who doesnt like AI slop is a secret twitter artist
Not everyone but most of them.
It's excellent when you need venus statue like women, muscular babes or futas, just look at naikedart, somnectar or /d/
>0 drawing or digital art skills
>can generate amazing pics for myself in munutes vs spending years of learning how to draw
>start to take my time inpainting shit, working in image editors, actually learned some photoshop now
>feel good about myself, spend time improving techniques and stuff, work with my images
>it also makes trannies seethe and shit uncontrollably
It's literally a win-win scenario. I fricking love image generation. And it's only going to get better. Remember first images during NAI leak 10 months ago? What a ride.
>amazing pics
With standards this low you can tell why people in your country still dedicate outside.
It's not sub 0.1% masterpieces, because that would require additional pro skills for sure. Fixing stuff, combining both AI and high level drawhomosexualry.
But it's 100% better than the vast majority of human art I see. You know when you visit sites like boorus, deviantart, artstation...you name it. Endless garbage that you don't even want to open, you don't even spend a second looking at it.
>IT'S GOOD ENOUGH YOU BIG BABY WHAT YOU WANT THING THAT ACTUALLY GOOD FRICK YOU
>no argument
>only sub 0.1% of images should exist and millions of drawgays are talentless hacks
>just being good or excellent is not enough if the AI is involved
Good boy. I've seen it all before tho numerous times but it's still funny.
lol you're still trying to convince me that AI trash is any good.
No I don't. Just felt like wasting a few minutes ITT with the rest of anons. Nothing will convince anti AI gays. Literally nothing, I'm aware of that.
But I sure hope more people will try it out. And take their time learning this stuff. At least to educate themselves.
>99% of Ai stuff is just aping real artists, oh hey look this Ai is copying "insert artist here"
>99% of it is just pics of already existing characters made by real artists
What's the point here?
To give moronic coomers a superiority complex.
Getting free pics of your waifu without having to rely on gaytists?
Fair enough. That sounds like the truth
I'd say you could already do that by simply drawing, but considering how much of a parasite you sound like it's probably above your ability, like many, many things are.
This reeks of Pajeets
On which side are they? Both?
AI slop spam thread
kys
Like I understand AI as a tool to create horny pictures, but I will never understand how high and mighty ai "artists" get over being able to make a goofy looking melted toddler with the press of a button. It's all created off preexisting media, you can't draw Kumar. I'm not even an artgay, it's just the weirdest cope I've ever seen in my life.
its actual losers tying their egos to a near worthless sense of accomplishment. Once you think about it as that guy who just goes 'yeah I could totally do that if I actually trained those guys aint shit' all day then it makes sense
AI art is lowest common denominator soulless shit. That's why it's bad. It's not because of some imaginary war between artists and ai artists. The reality is that the real artists are always going to have the leg up on ai artists because the skill floor is low and they're going to be able to photoshop actual hands over their aislop instead of whatever the frick OP did with that butterfly girl.
the artgays paradox: ai sucks but somehow its gonna replace them
the AIgays gigacope: AI art sucks now but it will eventually replace every artist and put them out of a job
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change
technology has stagnated pretty hard, this is the only major breakthrough in like half a century+
no artist say that, nice strawman
as if it isn't aigays screaming and spamming moronic shit everywhere saying that
>no artist say that,
Peak delusion
He just released the latest version open source and offline though?
>Peak delusion
Peak deflection
I know three people who just ai generate video game icons and sell them on the unity store. that's all i need to know about this scam shit
Etsy is making a killing from all the AIgays trying to sell off their AI trash. The AIgays get zero sales but they still have to pay Etsy a fee and there's millions of morons doing it now thinking it's a get rich quick scheme.
I'm a coomer and pretty much all of the AI generated images spammed on here and pixiv don't do anything for my penis
I only like when BBW ai images get posted. BBW is life
People still dont get bored of this shit? Outside of making idiots on Ganker and twitter mad there is no value on it. I tried using it for my game and comic and im better off using stick figures.
Seems that the AI troony mod is up again and letting these blatant offtopic Ganker raids run rampant on Ganker again
>ordinary people with no experience can make AI pics and learn
>transgenders seethe because they can't even learn how to AI to do the same and make their waifus or just cool images
AIgays are transgenders, they both pretend to be something they'll never be.
Why do people act like the nonexistent barrier of entry is why people don't like aislop.
Because there is a massive barrier of entry to making good stuff and AI makes good stuff with a very small barrier of entry.
Bro people are paying for shit like OP's image and they literally photoshopped on human hands. There's no "good stuff".
also lol
>massive barrier of entry
keep being delusional like you're a tech wizard
Post your art and prove me wrong
I definitely can't prove to you that good ai art exists, because like I said - it doesn't.
Read my post again you moron. Prove that there's no barrier of entry to drawing good art. You can't because you draw like a child.
Not even sure why you think I draw. I said there wasn't a massive barrier of entry for ai art. You can find guides literally anywhere and the only real requirement other than being able to read is a good gpu.
Had a good laugh in this thread
Thanks everyone
Hah!
The worst thing is going to be when AI self derivates in its processing. It has no experience, so it can't form an expansive definition as to something. Everyone would be too lazy to go see if Great breasts really look like that.
>everyone arguing with me has resorted to insults
anti-AI gays once again incapable of following through with their own arguments
I will not redeem the AIslop.
https://files.catbox.moe/jsc0vb.jpg
this model is hornier than the other
>SIRS, IT'S MY CHANCE TO POST MY AISLOP!
>samegay AI shitter rejected by Ganker makes Ganker his twitter and dump his awful gens for free
Happy little trees bros.... The zoomers don't value the endearment of comprehensive methodology. Woe.