How would you compare demon's souls (ps3) to dark souls 1?
I just beat ds1 for the first time recently and i have extremely mixed feelings on it. Demons looks appealing to me but is it worth getting a ps3
How would you compare demon's souls (ps3) to dark souls 1?
it's good. more consistent than dark souls in terms of level quality. certainly not worth buying a ps3 for unless you have a dozen other games you want to play. emulate or play the superior PS5 remake. (inb4 autistic screeching)
It's the best Souls game, and actually challenging. DaS nerfed and casualized the whole design.
>or play the superior PS5 remake.
Frick your shitty bait, Black person.
The DEmake was all around awful.
it's honestly fine. you people can never look at thing as a whole, it's always cherrypicking and whatever you can fit in a 3MB jpeg and a 2000 character post.
t. played both (doubt you can say the same)
It's slop, have another (You) for your shitty bait
>you people can never look at thing as a whole
As a whole, I'd rather just emulate the original.
>b-but muh graphics
have a nice day right now
You zoomers cry if a game isn’t 60 FPS lol
Im mad that I can't play DS1/2 at 120fps. Demons Souls does on RPCS3 but it's torture to play with those flying mantis sniping me and I can't hit them because my bow doesn't have range except for that split second when they fly within range but then I still miss if I don't time it correctly to their firing animation
>flying mantis
>MANTAS
Just use lock on.
Dodge.
Return fire.
They move so slow its easy as frick
You are an actual smoothbrain if you think that graphics == FPS
>no item dupe glitch
Frick off
>inb4 just grind
I platinumed DS2. I get to use item dupe glitch.
>not to mention I had the PS3 - SOTFS ed
>IOW the worst of all DS2 versions due to all the good shit being moved past Amana
I would rather play the original. This shit isn't Demon's Souls.
These games were made to run at 30fps. DSR has glaring animation issues because of this. It's never gonna happen, man.
>DeS
>hard
none of fromsofts games are hard buddy
He didn't say Fromsoft game are hard though?
>actually challenging
what? DeS is fricking easy as shit and i played it back in the day in 2011.
Every single souls game is harder than the last, except maybe DaS2
DS2 is way harder than DS1 where you can just stack poise and facetank endgame bosses.
Maybe level traversal is easier because you can always top off with lifegems but not bosses.
>actually challenging.
>DeS
Truly soulless, dont play the remake, OP
kys
I don't think any bluepoint remakes are as good as the originals.
It’s hard to argue against the MGS3 HD Edition port solely because of how dogshit it ran on PS2
Is MGS3 actually good?
I just remember renting it one time, and after an hour of running around in the jungle doing bullshit
>and having to do multi-steps just to heal
I got annoyed and turned it off to return to blockbuster.
I mean compared to 1 & 2 that shit seemed stupid as frick.
Or does it just start slow?
The survival mechanics do become less intrusive after a while, but you start to get the hang of things anyway. But I can’t fault you for not liking it.
Yeah I should have clarified, subsistence had it bad. You’re right that the OG wasn’t terrible performance-wise, but it’s just nice having everything smooth in the HD Collection.
You know, actually, I remember now, it also runs bad on ps3. If you had a backwards compatible PS3 and put in the PS2 game I mean.
It's a slower game but you're supposed to make heavy use of cqc and other new mechanics like camo or throwing items to devise your own unique ways through levels. I think its a lot better than 1&2 because you can be more tactical.
It's one of my favorite games of all time, man. I don't say that lightly. Easily the best MGS by the second or third boss. You'll fricking love it. That first part probably isn't as long as you remember it being.
Games fricking 10/10. I don't know what to compare it to without sounding like a gay, it's that good. Just fricking play it, man.
just emulate it with rpcs3. i swear there really does need to be a renaissance in piracy tech literacy among gen z, otherwise you are all fricked.
I dont have a pc capable of running it
should save up for a pc upgrade then and not waste your money on shitty consoles from 15 years ago. christmas would have been the perfect time to have wished for it.
I only have a laptop my 49 yo fat sugar mommy gf took from work
Id rather play on console because its more comfy
Enjoy you antimalwareserviceexecutable bro
>but is it worth getting a ps3
that shit is extremely cheap and you can play other fromsoft games on it.
but what the frick is the point? you can emulate it all super well and every other fromsoft game is available on pc which is superior in every way
>what is the point
>of owning a playstation 3
lol
yes. exactly. what the is the point of owning the nogames 3? especially when you can just emulate the few good ones that are exclusive to it.
we have absolutely nothing to talk about
wow what a cool little chain of time wasting replies
compiling shaders
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and? works great on my machine and almost everyone elses. maybe if you stopped gaming on a shitty hp laptop from 2015 you wouldnt have any issues
i don't feel like spending $2000+ on a benchmark circlejerk machine to emulate a $30 console, when my 2015 hp gaming laptop runs all the relevant pc games just fine
on top of that, compiling shaders causing framedrops and stutters is still a thing even on $2000+ benchmark circlejerk machines
My gaming laptop is $500 and can run RPCS3 games on 1080p just fine
>My gaming laptop is $500
what laptop?
what gpu?
See
MSI GF65
I bought it in 2019 which had the i5 9th Gen and 1660 Ti MaxQ GPU. It's replaced by the variant that has 3060 and i7.
Bruh you can emulate it on a Haswell gen CPU
>$2000+ on a benchmark circlejerk machine
I played demons' on a 960 and 12100f
Shit games for morons
It’s better than both DaS sequels by a long shot. It’s on par with Bloodborne
Demon's is great in its own right but its got some BULLSHIT bits in it
Suck my fricking wiener 4-2
Is it even close to the ratio of bs in ds1 though?
DaS Black folk won't admit it, but DeS is basically the same thing, just without so many elevators that lead you back to Firelink Shrine. Of course, elevators to Firelink Shrine make DaSBlack folk bust in their pants, so they don't care for that. If you liked DaS and didn't particularly care about the elevators to Firelink Shrine, you will like DeS. I prefer DeS but they are both excellent, DS3 is the best in the souls series anyway
DS3 is when the series irreparably lost everything good about DeS / DS1.
Oh, I know, DS1Black person. Firelink Shrine but with no elevators from nearby levels? Unthinkable to you, no doubt, but those of us with taste can appreciate how DS3 improved upon the formula in non-elevator areas
But DS3 is where the level design started to take a nosedive, on top of becoming Roll Souls and dedicating more of its focus on bosses instead of the actual good parts.
>But DS3 is where the level design started to take a nosedive,
Because there were no elevators back to Firelink, dumb DS1Black person?
You seem awfully fixated on Firelink for some reason, but DS3's level design was worse than Demon's Souls'.
>Datamined DS3 data shows it was supposed to be a DeS like hub world with textures for DS3's Nexus
>Some of them are 1:1 copy pastes, like Irythill dungeon -> Latria, Lothric Castle -> Boletaria Castle
>Worse level design
It's fair to say Ganker hasn't played anything past DaS at this point
>Datamined DS3 data shows it was supposed to be a DeS like hub world with textures for DS3's Nexus
Damn, if only they had done that instead of the garbage they went with.
At least we will have Project Eclipse
>Ignoring terrible DS2 and linear BB levels
Sure
DS2 still retained some of the spirit of Demon's Souls and nobody played Bloodborne.
>DS3 is the best in the souls series anyway
>DS3 is the best in the series
way to out yourself as a massive moron
i'm trying to emulate DeS and it keeps compiling shaders
Welcome to modern emulation. It smoothes out after a while.
if you didn't like dark souls idk why you'd think you'd like demon souls
I don't know why people come late to a series and try too hard to get into it
i dont see why thats a problem? elaborate.
You went this long without caring about this hardly niche series and the first one you tried wasn't to your liking, maybe go play something else at that point?
im not fricking OP you mouthbreathing moron. i have played all these games (except bloodborne) when they came out. also, how do you know OP hasn't played any of the other souls games like DS2 or 3 or elden ring? you muttlennials keep screetching about old = good, new = bad anyways so why not let the poor kid try some of the older souls games?
>im not fricking OP you mouthbreathing moron
oh okay, piss off then not reading the rest of your post either dumbass
DeS was fine, but it also has a lit of flaws. The game is too easy, you don't even need to forge your weapons or even care about your stats too much, since you'll probably be curbstomping every single boss and encounter first try, but the mine area is moronic because if you don't have magic or a magic weapon, you'll be dealing shit damage to the bosses. The areas are also easy because no matter how many obstacles you face, you'll always have like a million healing items on you so there's barely any sense of danger. Also, the game just abruptly ends. After beating the levels, I expected an extra area to be unlocked, but no you're taken right to the ending. World Tendency is pure jank, it's a neat feature, but in the end, you'll just end up killing yourself in the Nexus whenever you kill a boss just so you don't lock yourself out of some weapons. There's a lot of soul (Maiden Astrea, following that fat bastard through boletaria, general atmosphere, etc), but in actual gameplay, it falls flat for some parts of it. The Allant fight is kino though
It was an experimental game compared to Dark Souls 1. Most of the bosses feel like a puzzle and almost none of them require you to try as hard to beat as in your average DS3/Bloodborne/Elden Ring boss. It also has the nice feeling of never feeling like any specific boss is designed to shut down your build through resistances. Like difficulty wasn't as big of a priority as it was for the modern games. Levels are designed linearly, you aren't really retreading ground unless you are grinding, resulting in there being very little unused space. The games soundtrack is also pretty unique, not just orchestras going off like the rest of the series.
It feels like a prototype for Dark Souls.
That's not a dig against it, that's just the feeling it gives off.
Depends on what you didn't like about ds1 on whether or not you'd like Demon's Souls. They aren't dramatically different, if you liked one you'll like the other. You must've liked it at least enough to beat it, unless you're one of those masochistic "I have to finish the game or else my opinion doesn't count" types. Ds1 takes a pretty sharp dive in quality after Anor Londo and basically hits rock bottom for the entire experience at Lost Izalith. That doesn't happen with Demon's, its quality is consistent all throughout the game.
Though it is extremely experimental in some aspects, namely the slightly obtuse method for obtaining boss weapons, which is the only reasonable way you're going to get a strong weapon without grinding for ores. The bosses for the most part are extremely easy compared to ds1 and most are gimmick fights of some sort. Since you beat ds1 you're probably not gonna die more than once or twice if at all on many of the bosses besides a couple outliers.
World tendency is a silly gimmick that for the most part doesn't really affect your playthrough in any meaningful way unless you get pure white or pure black, which you probably won't. Healing is sorta broken cuz the game throws grass at you and you can basically carry 50+ extra health bars with you. Magic is kind of uninspired but equally broken for the same reason, it's easy to farm mana replenishing items instead of only having a limited number of casts between bonfires.
If you get tired of one area you can always dip and go to another thanks to the archstones and nexus hub area, it's not a giant interconnected world that requires traveling.
The servers got shut down so if you wanna play with other people your only options are playing the remaster or emulating it. Emulating worked fine for me and I even got invaded once which I won but I had trouble invading others and getting summoned myself.
Demon's Souls Remake just needed a switch to change to the old OST and I would have been perfectly fine with it. Maiden in Black is still a frail looking Asian girl, I don't care about the other npcs, they are just menus to me.
It's okayish but it feels horribly dated now, DaS really perfected the formula
DeS is the flawed gem and off the wall tech demo that had a lot of radical cool shit but some of it was overbalanced into mediocrity in the main release that is DaS1
Don't play it expecting it to be balanced, play it expecting it to be doing cool shit
how do I play online with RPCS3?
Where the hell did this revisionist meme about DeS being “easy” come from? Because that’s not what Ganker was saying back when it first came out
Souls games become easy once you start exploiting the AI and know the meta builds. DeS being the first one suffers from both the most.
>Souls games become easier
FTFY
Demon definitely has the easiest bosses.
Half are easy as frick. And only 2 are somewhat difficult.
Compare that to any other game in the franchise.
Dark souls bosses are all easier on average the only exception is the DLC, and I despise how people list off strategies or tools for trivializing bosses while acting as if the same thing doesn't exist for Dark Souls. I doubt you had the sense to find and use those items on your own and if you used a guide for demon's souls it opens up the strategy guides for everything in Dark Souls. And that doesn't even account for world tendency which everyone suicides in the nexus so they can make it white.
Yes, it was considered extremely difficult when it came out, but FROMSOFT made their game more difficult over time so in comparison it's not so hard anymore.
There are a few bosses in DeS that I've never died too, some are gimmick bosses, and others have a secret that trivializes them (like turning off your footsteps for the blind boss or finding a flame resistant shield to use against the flame lurker.)
The rest can be tough but not as hard as the average Dark Souls boss.
Also your first game will be the hardest, and a lot of people played Dark Souls 1 before Demons.
What I don't understand is how Dark Souls avoids all the criticism it's even the easier game out of the lot.
Dark Souls has the best interconnected world out of all From games, that's why it gets praised
Souls "difficulty" is a meme
It's almost as if harder soul games come out unlike back then.
Unironically? The controls. They are now standard controls for modern games. They certainly weren't back then. Player centered 3D camera was also something so struggling to be mastered on both the developer and player side of things back in 2009. While much of it was unfamiliar back then, it is now common that the first hurdle to playing is a lot smaller now.
It's the companion game to DS1. DS2 and DS3 are something else completely.
DeS had better levels.
DaS had better world building and exploration.
Estus Flask was better than heaps of grass.
DeS human bosses were better.
Combat was pretty much the same, weapon variety too.
Mana was better than set number of casts.
I put them neck and neck, honestly.
It's like how Oblivion is to Skyrim. You'll enjoy both for their own qualities.
>mixed feelings
why? you will get better answers by stating what was not ideal and what was. all the other games are either very different or slightly different and none of them have so much the same that they're near identical
How does one play OG Demons Souls without a console and without resorting to the remaster? is possible?
emulation, just like anything else
Not sure I follow you bud, you mean like on PC? It emulates just fine if that’s what you mean
Emulated DeS on PC is perfect kino
I played snake eater and don't really remember any performance drops...
I didn't play subsistence though, but i remember reading about frame drops in that version.
the game seemed to be a solid 30 for me?
mgs 2 was 60 i know but mgs3 has more detail so it was 30.
if people are gonna knock bloodborne for being 24 fps dropping to like 18 during some bossfights (camerabeast paarl comes to mind) i think 30fps in mgs3 is fine.
emulate, lol.
it's the nioh of souls where you play 4 separate maps.
it's a nice game, especially when you're starved for souls combat, dark souls is just vastly superior where you can enjoy the whole exploration of the world.
It's quite different but also similar in many ways, DS clearly takes a lot of its ideas from DeS. I liked DeS, it's a game with an interesting atmosphere and setting, overall it's quite easy and basic compared to later Souls games (DS1 is like this as well, to be fair). DeS is also a level-based game essentially, it's not an open / interconnected world like DaS. You can choose the order in which you play the various "worlds" to some degree but in each individual world you go through levels one by one. There is no bonfire-equivalent mechanic, you teleport into a level and have to complete it by reaching and beating the boss so if you frick up it can be quite punishing as you have to start over from the beginning, even though like I said I don't consider the level of difficulty to be particularly high overall (there are some difficulty spikes here and there).
>is it worth getting a ps3
Nah, definitely not. The game emulates great on RPCS3, you can even play it at 4k 60FPS and so on with no issues whatsoever. There's really no reason to play it on a real PS3 if you're not some real hardware purist for nostalgia goggle purposes.
>buying a whole console for a single 20 hour game that can be emulated for free at double the performance and with an online community which the original doesn't have anymore
>playing souls games on online mode
online shenanigans and asymetric 3v1 multiplayer are the best part of these games
The netcode is classic nip jank but its more fun to have it turned on than not.
>and with an online community the original doesn't have anymore
the private server for ps3 has existed for years
DeS?
Pretty much worse in every way compared to DS1. And yet somehow I have played through DeS probably 2x the amount of times compared to DS1 and I couldn't for the life of me explain why. Hope this helps.
>I just beat ds1 for the first time recently and i have extremely mixed feelings on it. Demons looks appealing to me but is it worth getting a ps3
it was the reason I bought a PS3 10 years ago and never regret it
it's by far their best souls-game
bloodborne is on the same level
I remember trying to emulate this on my PC. I was surprised because it ran so well, then I broke a barrel an fps dropped to single digits.
This game was so magical when you played it first time without knowing anything about it.
I cant imagine it working today.
>I just beat ds1 for the first time recently and i have extremely mixed feelings on it.
if you don't like DaS, you wouldn't probably like DeS.
Try ER or Sekiro out if DeS doesn't work for ya as well.
If your PC is decent you can emulate it. Demon Souls is pretty fun, but it is a bit different to Dark Souls. On your first playthrough, you're kind of expected to build around the bosses, rather than build a certain way. I recommend giving it a play.
Demon's Souls is a better game in every way. More novel ideas and superior atmosphere. DS1 is for the most part a rehash of DeS for the xbox audience with a worse execution plus it's blatantly unfinished.