>different outcomes of your actions >BG3
Holy shit are you people stupid. All the endings of this game are almost identical, only the dialogue lines differ slightly. Vanish, troony.
I lost nothing, because I don't care what journalists think. You, on the other hand, clearly do. Your life and your happiness depends on gaming journos. Now suck some dick, little gay.
Hey troony, guess what? Your "game" doesn't respect even the basic rules of proper writing. It doesn't even have any kind of build-up or progression related to those brainworms even when the struggle related to them is the fricking key part of its storytelling. It's a game made by Tumblr morons for Tumblr morons such as yourself. Fricking leave when you are this idiotic.
>sees anonymous person on the internet with a differing opinion >immediately thinks of trannies
I am a 43 year old man, and I frankly don't care about reading the rest of what you wrote.
You will never be a man, you noodle-armed troony. You fall on the floor and start screaming when you see anything that resembles heterosexuality. Now dilate, "granny."
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ok
3 months ago
Anonymous
What a loser.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you will never have the brain of an adult, you will forever be stuck in your internet lingo, your peers will never see you as more than a manchild
Really depends on how strong your minmax or class experimentation autism is. It's worth playing maybe twice for the story and characters alone, but if you really like building out characters I can see you playing it a bunch of times.
I have to yet play this game
depends if there is a build variety that changes how you pay the game , also whether story/game progress is linear or not ?
Yea there's a ton of build variety. Martial and mage classes all play very differently and you can freely respec both your character and all companions to any class or multiclass of your choosing. The game is about as non-linear as a non open world game can be.
Except there's no build variety. The amount of classes is small, the amount of skills is small and the amount of items (that you could create builds around) is small. The amount of feats, too, is small, to the point you have no options to pick from, but are forced to pick the few ones that make sense unless you want to handicap yourself.
>my only experience with that genre is darkest dungeon
You are the type of person who might like this game. This game is hated by RPG veterans, but casuals like it.
Don't listen to this disingenuous moron, he's probably an owlkek still assblasted. Every single dnd 5e class is in the game, you can multiclass however you want, and there are like 700 different spells/skills.
You're an uneducated loser. You are a disingenuous liar when you pretend the game has D&D 5e classes when they aren't even finished. You don't even know that D&D classes have 20 levels. These are like mini versions of them: only 12 levels are covered and even those 12 levels are not covered wholly. The game lacks tons of skills. So it's like you take a warrior and cut his head and torso off and then just represent the legs and say "hey, here's a warrior for you." What a fricking douchebag you are. Shame on you and have a nice day, liar.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Of course they're not level 20, 7th level spells and beyond would be literally impossible to properly put in the game. It's a video game not a tabletop you moron. You're a moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
You are so stupid you don't even know what impossible means. Even those few spells Larian put in the game have been edited by them, nothing would stop them from editing more advanced spells and making encounters more challenging. Dumb lying troony.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There would literally be no way to put soul prison into a game like this without completely changing what it does, thus making it irrelevant that it's in the game in the first place. You're fricking stupid dude lmao
You didn't even know that D&D has 20 levels per class so shut the frick up. You are clueless.
What the frick are you talking about?
3 months ago
Anonymous
The game already has edited skills. There's no logical contradiction in adding more edited skills. Dumb fricking troony, you'll never understand RPGs one bit. You just repeat lazy marketing excuses by Larian. You must work for them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
lmao okay man
3 months ago
Anonymous
The fact you think BG3 is equal to D&D 5e makes you a massive moron. It's not a D&D game, you moron. It stands against everything that is D&D.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody wants to get a Wish spell and you can only pick 5 options from a list. It's lame as hell. Yes they changed and edited some stuff already but "more is better" doesn't apply here. Adding even more nerfed stuff becomes progressively worse and worse
3 months ago
Anonymous
You don't know that D&D classes have 20 levels so shut the frick up. You think D&D classes have only 12 levels. So shut up. You have never played a real RPG in your life.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't even know that D&D has 20 levels per class so shut the frick up. You are clueless.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>7th level spells and beyond would be literally impossible to properly put in the game
yeah i guess you DO need good devs for that
which makes it impossible for larian
3 months ago
Anonymous
nta but let's be real for a minute, has any game actually done what BG3 did?
the second best thing for me would be DOS2 and that was way more limited in scope, but I don't play a lot of tabletop/cRPGs to begin with
I really can't see any better way to feasibly do more with how niche these types of games are and their budgets
having the game fully voice acted and mocapped (found both okay to good for the most part) was a huge step up in quality but it did come at the cost of having near infinite permutations for 'real choices', the only way that can be a thing is probably using something like ChatGPT or AI dungeon
3 months ago
Anonymous
not having* near infinite choices
3 months ago
Anonymous
>has any game actually done what BG3 did?
you mean desecrating the grave of a video game series that was over 20 years ago to make a sequel that is not a sequel with the worst edition of dnd as a ruleset?
probably not, that is pretty groundbreaking stuff
3 months ago
Anonymous
and I guess I also forgot my question which would be: what more could a video game do with tabletop that BG3 hasn't done? how would you improve the formula fundamentally while maintaining a product that's economically viable and won't alienate a huge part of your fanbase/investors?
>has any game actually done what BG3 did?
you mean desecrating the grave of a video game series that was over 20 years ago to make a sequel that is not a sequel with the worst edition of dnd as a ruleset?
probably not, that is pretty groundbreaking stuff
I'm being serious anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know why you're bothering
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm being serious anon
do i look like i am laughing? >what more could a video game do with tabletop that BG3 hasn't done?
they could add a dm mode where i can make my own stories that i can run with my friends
they could let me do a full party of custom characters
they could use a better ruleset that actually benefits from turnbased combat
they could have not called it baldurs gate 3 if its not a sequel to bg2/tob
3 months ago
Anonymous
>they could let me do a full party of custom characters >they could use a better ruleset that actually benefits from turnbased combat
fair
>dm mode
this is the one I most agree with but sadly will probably never happen
they promised mod tools at some point that would make this possible but I've seen other anons point out that a lot of their model importing tools etc are proprietary and would require third party licensing in perpetuity or close to it
but I still don't understand why they would promise something they know they can't deliver..that part fricking sucks
3 months ago
Anonymous
>has any game actually done what BG3 did?
Which is? Use your words.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I did. the best part of the game for me and a lot of the people was how much attention was given to the rp aspect with regards to having better voice acting and animations than 99% of the products available in my experience
cRPGs always felt clunky for me, even DOS2, and they all lack the polish that BG3 does (talking relative to the rest of the market, the game is still FULL of bugs and other shit)
it's a very competent product and a fun game, but what more could be done? I think that's a fair question and I'm genuinely interested in your answers
3 months ago
Anonymous
In that case, yes, plenty of games have good voice acting and animations.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but stfu anon jfc. BG3 bridges the gap between cinematic and open ended. That's why it's good. We don't need the game to be 5 people pilpuling with each other about minute details until the GM nerfs the scenario just to make you feel better about your own head cannon. It's a great game that achieves the monumental task of making a sperg product that normies enjoy. Sorry that it's not autistic enough for you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
BG3 is a D:OS2 clone with Dragon Age 2 influences. It's not a tabletop RPG. Real Baldur's Gate games, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder games etc. have all done a better job at producing a tabletop experience than BG3.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Neverwinter nights >good
You just outed yourself you poser
3 months ago
Anonymous
You just outed yourself. And yes, you can't write, so I'm right. NWN multiplayer is legendary for bringing social tabletop experiences to PC.
Surely you admit BG3 is trash when you talk about outing oneself, right?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Real Baldur's Gate games
I played all of them and actually prefer them to BG3 but they are undeniably a less accurate depiction of the tabletop experience than the modern game is.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>hey bro, here's a dice for you, feel free to reroll it as many times as you want for skill checks, we don't really believe in skill checks in BG3 🙂
Just frick off, thanks.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't say it was 1:1, I said it's closer than the original games, which is, again, undeniably true. If you disagree, feel free to explain to me how the original games (which, again, I prefer to the newer one) are closer to the real tabletop experience.
>but they are undeniably a less accurate depiction of the tabletop experience
so? go play actual dnd if you want the tabletop experience, you homosexual
I do. That's how I know.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not closer. What kind of fricking tabletop experience is one where you don't even have to respect the dice and one where there is no freedom or levels or fricking anything? Frick off.
You are the kind of moron who just throws all the chess pieces to the floor and calls it a chess experience. No, it's not, you fricking donkey, you aren't even playing it. Idiot.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>saving your game is exclusive to baldur's gate 3
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It's not closer. What kind of fricking tabletop experience is one where you don't even have to respect the dice and one where there is no freedom or levels or fricking anything? Frick off.
None of the games force you to "respect the dice". They all have save-reload. Tabletop has rerolls, should the DM allow it.
You seem to think the tabletop experience has anything to do with videogame-esque rules that must be followed. What separates the tabletop experience from a videogame experience is that you can decide with your friends what rules to follow and when, rather than always rigidly adhering to them because that's how it's programmed. Tabletop is about going on a cool imaginary adventure with your bros. I don't think any video game comes close, but in a comparison, I'd say the newer game is closer than the older ones if only because it hones in a bit more on that "we're all on a big adventure together" feel. Still not the same as playing tabletop, but it's a video game so it can't be.
You play nothing but AAA games, you big fat normie.
Stop projecting, it makes you look moronic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>They all have save-reload
You are the dumbest motherfricker on this planet. You have the dumbest opinions and the worst argumentative skills. Amazing. Can't wait to for the day you develop cancer.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Actually, I'm the smartest person ITT. My evidence: you can't refute a single point I've made, only throw verbal shit. I don't even like BG3, but you're so moronic you can't comprehend anything other than a black-and-white, all-good-all-bad rhetoric. So basically, u mad, cry more.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You have failed to provide a single counter-argument to anything that has been undeniably established in the conversation so far. So you lost the argument and you will lose at life. Now develop that cancer and leave, glasses.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong.
BG3 is a D:OS2 clone with Dragon Age 2 influences. It's not a tabletop RPG. Real Baldur's Gate games, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder games etc. have all done a better job at producing a tabletop experience than BG3.
made the statement that >It's not a tabletop RPG. Real Baldur's Gate games[...] have all done a better job at producing a tabletop experience than BG3.
to which I disagreed. The rebuttal this poster came up with was that BG3 does not respect the sanctity of rolling, to which I respond >None of the games force you to "respect the dice". They all have save-reload. Tabletop has rerolls, should the DM allow it. >You seem to think the tabletop experience has anything to do with videogame-esque rules that must be followed. What separates the tabletop experience from a videogame experience is that you can decide with your friends what rules to follow and when, rather than always rigidly adhering to them because that's how it's programmed. Tabletop is about going on a cool imaginary adventure with your bros. I don't think any video game comes close, but in a comparison, I'd say the newer game is closer than the older ones if only because it hones in a bit more on that "we're all on a big adventure together" feel. Still not the same as playing tabletop, but it's a video game so it can't be.
This is a pretty clear cut counter-argument. The response to this post was a simple "you are dumb" with nothing to substantiate it, basically just doo-doo flinging. If you have a counterpoint, now's your chance to air it.
There is true and there is false. You'd know this if you had ever studied logic in your life. But you haven't, so you are stuck being wrong all the time about everything throughout your entire life. So enjoy the ride when you're like that.
Talk all you want but you haven't responded to my argument, only evaded it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>hurr durr a game having a saving system (like almost every game ever) is the same as a game having in-built anti-RPG systems
You are truly the dumbest and the most uneducated moron on this planet. Go clean your glasses you dimwit and fricking stop to think for the first time in your life. You can't make basic distinctions.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So Crash Bandicoot is a tabletop RPG according to you because you can load a save in it? Even when it severely lacks RPG elements.
Hey morons, remember how this conversation is about whether or not BG3 is CLOSER to the tabletop experience than BG1&2? I mention save games because both games have it, so it eliminates them as a factor for the purpose of comparison.
So you must therefore be referring to the inspiration die. Which serve the same purpose as inspiration die in modern day DnD, a mechanical bonus as a reward for playing your character. Actually, now that you mention it, the original games have no such equivalent for rewarding the player for roleplaying. They have very limited room for roleplay at all really, you're just playing through them like any other videogame. So again, BG3 does a better job of emulating the tabletop experience by encouraging the player to play their character through mechanical reward.
Of course, this is still an extremely limited system within the game. Again, it does not compare to real tabletop at all, it's only closer when comparing it to the decades old prior games.
And if you're not talking about inspiration die, then what in the frick ARE you talking about?
Saving is not a game mechanic nor is it an RPG mechanic. Saving and loading exists so a player can continue playing the game later. It's not part of the actual game, it's more of a technical feature.
The fact you can't distinguish the actual game and a technical feature shows how much of a dumbass you are.
No shit moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
bg2 felt way more like a role playing game than bg3 did.
bg3 played like a parody of an actual dnd game, like a stupid family guy episode.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>bg3 played like a parody of an actual dnd game, like a stupid family guy episode.
So exactly like an actual game of tabletop. Thank you for finally getting my point, I was starting to think I was arguing with chatbots.
What exactly makes bg2 "feel" way more like a role playing game, in your opinion?
>No shit moron
So you are wrong. You just admitted it. BG3 is by its very design anti-RPG meanwhile when you speak of BG1 and BG2, you have to rely on irrelevant things such as saving features. That's like saying x is less of a tabletop RPG than y because the sun is shining outside, it has nothing to do with it.
Thanks for admitting you're an idiot who has failed to refute anything established so far. Now back to having bear sex, troony.
>when you speak of BG1 and BG2, you have to rely on irrelevant things such as saving features. >So you must therefore be referring to the inspiration die. Which serve the same purpose as inspiration die in modern day DnD, a mechanical bonus as a reward for playing your character. Actually, now that you mention it, the original games have no such equivalent for rewarding the player for roleplaying.
Read the post you're responding to, mongoloid.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I already did read your post and it's filled with utter stupidity of this caliber. You can't even tell that saving is not a game mechanic. You believe saving is comparable to game mechanics. I can't babysit morons like you all day long, there's no hope for people like you. Just hop off the cliff, cheers.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You can't even tell that saving is not a game mechanic.
Never said or implied it was. I explicitly pointed out what I thought was obvious here >I mention save games because both games have it, so it eliminates them as a factor for the purpose of comparison.
Why do I feel like I'm going to be doing a lot of pointing-to-things-I-already-said-but-you-refused-to-read? I'm not responding to any more posts that ignore things I explicitly say, it's a waste of time.
Curious why you didn't mention that you can't bank multiple uses of inspiration in tabletop like you can in BG3.
Because it wouldn't contribute to the discussion. The inclusion of an inspiration-die like mechanic is already a point over the older games in this comparison, since they have no equivalent.
why the frick are you arguing with these morons that do nothing but reply in bad faith? are you ok?
Procrastinating on work lol
>So exactly like an actual game of tabletop.
but were not talking about tabletop, were talking about a video game.
bg2 is a better DND video game than bg3 is. >What exactly makes bg2 "feel" way more like a role playing game
the dialogues and the story.
in bg2 it feels like an actual adventure in faerun.
in bg3 i was constantly expecting some crazy ass Deadpool marvel shit to pop out - and it usually did (everything is a fricking joke in BG3, nothing seems serious).
>but were not talking about tabletop, were talking about a video game.
>Real Baldur's Gate games
I played all of them and actually prefer them to BG3 but they are undeniably a less accurate depiction of the tabletop experience than the modern game is.
^my first post in the thread. I was and have only been discussing the games in the context of how well they "produce a tabletop experience". I even said multiple times that I like the older games more, BG3 is pretty shit in a lot of ways. But the game itself is still closer to how it feels to play tabletop than the older games, even if the writing IMO is less enjoyable. I definitely felt like it was easier to "play a character" in BG3, than in 1 or 2, even if none come close to tabletop in this regard. >n bg2 it feels like an actual adventure in faerun. >in bg3 i was constantly expecting some crazy ass Deadpool marvel shit to pop out - and it usually did (everything is a fricking joke in BG3, nothing seems serious).
I absolutely agree (though not with that last comment, most of the game was pretty serious), but an actual adventure in faerun is never what tabletop has ever felt like in my experience. Tabletop has always been a silly pastime for me, and even in the more serious story-heavy "this time we're not gonna frick around" campaigns, there was always goofing off in the downtime. BG1&2 is like tabletop if the DM was playing by himself.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The inclusion of an inspiration-die like mechanic is already a point over the older games in this comparison
Quite frankly I'd disagree. From my experience with 5e, inspiration was usually reserved for big character defining moments. Players would hold onto it and only use it if they absolutely needed to. Contrarily in BG3 inspiration is handed out like candy and awarded for the most minute of tasks (Succeeding on a skill check, entering a location, picking up an item, etc). Furthermore because they can be banked and rolled subsequently you can nearly guarantee a success on something you're already mathematically favored for, removing much of the point of rolling dice in the first place.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>From my experience with 5e, inspiration was usually reserved for big character defining moments. Players would hold onto it and only use it if they absolutely needed to. Contrarily in BG3 inspiration is handed out like candy and awarded for the most minute of tasks (Succeeding on a skill check, entering a location, picking up an item, etc). Furthermore because they can be banked and rolled subsequently you can nearly guarantee a success on something you're already mathematically favored for, removing much of the point of rolling dice in the first place.
I agree. It's extremely lenient, but again, its mere inclusion is more than the original games did in terms of encouraging the player to play to their character.
I think it's also worth discussing the fact that such a mechanic didn't even exist as a concept in tabletop at the time of the first game's development. If it had, would they have included it? I believe so, and likely done a better job in implementing it than what's in BG3. But it wasn't and they didn't so we don't know.
Anyway there are more factors than just the inspiration die that lead me to the conclusion that BG3 is closer to tabletop than the earlier games. The non-combat, non-story, non-character interactions, for example. Things like playing music. Stuff that has little in the way of mechanical benefit, they're just there because a player might want to have a little moment where they're playing their flute before they dunk on these goblins or the like. In terms of actual roleplay functionality, BG1&2 are pretty barebones, with little to offer in terms of fluff functions like that.
>>bg3 played like a parody of an actual dnd game, like a stupid family guy episode. >So exactly like an actual game of tabletop.
Actual moron.
Lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
Mental illness.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>So exactly like an actual game of tabletop.
but were not talking about tabletop, were talking about a video game.
bg2 is a better DND video game than bg3 is. >What exactly makes bg2 "feel" way more like a role playing game
the dialogues and the story.
in bg2 it feels like an actual adventure in faerun.
in bg3 i was constantly expecting some crazy ass Deadpool marvel shit to pop out - and it usually did (everything is a fricking joke in BG3, nothing seems serious).
3 months ago
Anonymous
How many levels do you think tabletop DnD 5th edition has?
3 months ago
Anonymous
As many as you want. If you disagree, you don’t play dnd.
3 months ago
Anonymous
why the frick are you arguing with these morons that do nothing but reply in bad faith? are you ok?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>please stop criticising, only positive opinions allowed
nah
3 months ago
Anonymous
who are you quoting
3 months ago
Anonymous
>why the frick are you arguing with these morons that do nothing but reply in bad faith? >please stop criticising, only positive opinions allowed
just rehprased your stupid post : )
3 months ago
Anonymous
so you're quoting no one and just arguing with something you made up? that's really weird anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
i was quoting you, but i used other words : ) >noo nooo stop discussing with people who dislike this game
here, another way to rephrase your post : )
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think you know what "quote" means
3 months ago
Anonymous
newbie. get a hobby instead of shitting up threads with your moronic "opinions".
3 months ago
Anonymous
BG3 fanbase is the worst kind you could have for your video game, attention prostitutes, coomers, self insert losers, furries and femcels, literally the worst fanbase in the last 5 years >you can't critize BG3, best game ever, best writing, waifus
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I am a child and this is literally the first "fanbase" I've ever interacted with
Neat.
This site is 18+
3 months ago
Anonymous
hmm, i don't remember FNAF losers shiting up Ganker for 6 months like BG3 drones, remember 30 threads daily for like a a month and a half in August and September? then 20
go outside and touch some concret, you're the reason why Ganker is such a shithole
if you are allowed to criticize then I am allowed to defend....freedom of speech b***h.
you're defending like you're paid drone, 90% of BG3 drones are like that, but you're doing it for free like Jannie >dont you dare to speak against BG3, we will bring up Steam numbers and metacritic score
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it's bad for people to talk about video games on Ganker
sorry sars we shall redeem back to vpol posting yes please
3 months ago
Anonymous
>TORTANIC gay parroting opinions
not drone >liking a game and saying its good
drone shill frick off
Not my problem you don't enjoy vidya anymore moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Reminder it's one person and he just replied to you twice
3 months ago
Anonymous
if you are allowed to criticize then I am allowed to defend....freedom of speech b***h.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>bad faith
The moron you are replying to is unironically arguing that the way BG3 handles skill checks is more similar to tabletop RPGs than how BG1 and BG2 handle skill checks.
And yes, I know I'm replying to a moron right now, since you pretend anything is done in bad faith. It's a fact BG3 is a D:OS2 clone, it's not a made-up argument. It's not a tabletop experience. Fricking play both games and compare them if you can't see it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why do people like you always act as if being closer to the authentic D&D experience is a good thing for a video game based on D&D? There is a reason why literally nobody plays pen & paper D&D anymore and even during its peak popularity it was only ever played by a fringe group of the most autistic nerds. A video game should never try to be authentic to such a deeply flawed and bad source material. The only value D&D has ever provided to video games was some basic rule system and settings that came with their established lore and worldbuilding so video game writers didn't have to make all of that up themselves.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Why do people like you always act as if being closer to the authentic D&D experience is a good thing for a video game based on D&D?
I'm not, the guys arguing with me are, lol. I already said I prefer the older games, which I'm saying are less "authentic" to the D&D experience. >why literally nobody plays pen & paper D&D anymore
Didn't it hit its all-time peak popularity pretty recently? At least in terms of media saturation, but that's bound to translate to lots of players too, even if those players are casual scum or whatever.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>bg3 played like a parody of an actual dnd game, like a stupid family guy episode. >So exactly like an actual game of tabletop.
Actual moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You have never played the tabletop
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No shit moron
So you are wrong. You just admitted it. BG3 is by its very design anti-RPG meanwhile when you speak of BG1 and BG2, you have to rely on irrelevant things such as saving features. That's like saying x is less of a tabletop RPG than y because the sun is shining outside, it has nothing to do with it.
Thanks for admitting you're an idiot who has failed to refute anything established so far. Now back to having bear sex, troony.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Curious why you didn't mention that you can't bank multiple uses of inspiration in tabletop like you can in BG3.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So Crash Bandicoot is a tabletop RPG according to you because you can load a save in it? Even when it severely lacks RPG elements.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Saving is not a game mechanic nor is it an RPG mechanic. Saving and loading exists so a player can continue playing the game later. It's not part of the actual game, it's more of a technical feature.
The fact you can't distinguish the actual game and a technical feature shows how much of a dumbass you are.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There is true and there is false. You'd know this if you had ever studied logic in your life. But you haven't, so you are stuck being wrong all the time about everything throughout your entire life. So enjoy the ride when you're like that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You play nothing but AAA games, you big fat normie.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but they are undeniably a less accurate depiction of the tabletop experience
so? go play actual dnd if you want the tabletop experience, you homosexual
3 months ago
Anonymous
>complains game is a bastardization of the tabletop >"well actually if i wanted to play true to tabletop i'd play it not a video game"
3 months ago
Anonymous
>has any game actually destroyed the legacy of a beloved RPG franchise more than BG3 did?
I don't think any game has achieved that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Hey moron, most campaigns don't go to lv20 because the powerlevel gets insane. Most classes can fight gods at that level. Stopping at 12 was a good decision
3 months ago
Anonymous
Posting this from gay bar, I bet? BLM cuck.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>
3 months ago
Anonymous
>most campaigns don't go to lv20 because the powerlevel gets insane. Most classes can fight gods at that level.
so make a campaign where you fight god as the final boss?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Go play a Japanese game, Black person.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He said final boss not prologue
3 months ago
Anonymous
The issue is that the mechanics of high level play are impossible to put in videogame. Plane shifting, global teleporting, polymorphing anything to anything, fricking WISH. Without a fricking GTA6 budget that shit just isn't materializing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
BG2 had no problem with that, my team actually felt like a bunch of godlike motherfrickers by the time i finished it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>BG2 had no problem with that
HAAAHAHHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>You are the type of person who might like this game. This game is hated by RPG veterans, but casuals like it.
I'm just not into turn based combat , and I rarely play RPGs , I was willing to cope with the turn based elements in DD because I liked the hardcore aspect
game just reminded me of dragon age origin somehow
however I don't understand the conflicting answer , there is build variety here then ?
There are 12 classes, each have subclasses (46 total), you can multiclass (spec into any class you want at any level), and there are like 700 spells/skills. I don't know how many gear pieces there are in the game but I'm sure it's a couple hundred at least.
Just go watch a youtube video or something on builds if you want to see variety. The Black person in here is shitposting his ass off for whatever reason.
And the moron also lies to you about linearity: the game is very linear. You have three chapters, three maps, which you are forced to clear in order. There is one minimap that is not required and which you can choose to clear between chapters, but it only takes like one hour and isn't really a big decision. So the game is very linear, you follow these clearly defined paths in the map and just clear the trash mobs the game throws at you.
Evil route is undercooked, most quests end up with people dying so they don't show up later down the line to give you more quests.
Also combat in act3 is shit thanks to all the loot breaking the game, my fricking monk hits harder than a my barbarian, and he can attack twice as many times.
This. Hell I became exhausted on my first playthrough by act 3. They unironically backloaded too much content and act 3 has WAY too many combat encounters especially since by act 3 combat had become really repetitive anyway.
Some moron said the game's encounter design is good even when it's filled with boring repetitive fights over and over again that require zero thought. And yes, especially in the third act, where you don't even have character progression anymore because the game runs out of levels.
Act3 is just a mess full of stuff clearly meant for the upper city like the House of Grief (built right behind Jaheira's house lol), Counting house, Sorcerous Sundries, Devil's Fee, Cazador Mansion...
I think some of baldur's gate might have been accesible in act2 at some point in development, maybe rivington and lower city.
Some of their quests make no sense for lvl10/12 chads
I liked the invasion that's about it. Act 3 is all over the place but at least it isn't all gray and there's actual fricking quests to do. If you go against the grove act 2 basically has no content which is lame cause the tieflings are clearly bad for the city
It has none. I keep wanting to replay to try out evil side story. But holy frick it is tedious and there’s barely any difference. There’s no exploration no discovery. Every conversation is something you’ve already heard. None of the characters have anything new to say. It was great one time but even as a fairy lazy player my first play through saw every area, every character, every “secret”. It has nothing to offer me on a second play through.
Definitely more repayable than WOTR for me. I'm on my second playthrough now(or should I say third since in my first honor run I fricked up).
Durge honor run is worth it. Although the fun mostly comes from the fact that you can't save scum(well you can if you close the game from task manager but you get the gist).
So far the most noteworthy legendary action was surprisingly Nere's.
its pretty awful, the most significant choice is going with goblins or the grove with the tieflings acting as a sort of neutral party that really isn't should you go with the latter as there's no reason to get rid of them outside of rp. after that there isn't really much of a good or evil path as there's no other choice even close to the significance of that event.
Good for two playthroughs. Start with goody two shoes and then another run as psycho Durge. Lot of good waifus too, so worakryth playing for different romance paths.
If you don't turn look into every barrel, clear every encounter, talk to every npc and do every single side quest in act 1 you will end up underleveled for act 2. Rushing main quest also locks you out of many side quests.
I dont want to side either with the gold pieces or the druids, I am helping Halsin to clear out those dickheads in the Goblin camp rn so he can tell that c**t in the Grove to stop killing kids and have it be over with.
Should I go back and kill one of them for the XP before clearing out the Goblins?
zero lmao
It's weird that I want to replay Divinity Original Sins 2 all the time but I have zero interest to replay this one after the second time (I didn't even enjoy that second playthrough)
I got over 300 hours. I finally 100% the game after finishing the durge run. I don't think I will play the game any time soon unless friends want to make an another campaign. But we already did two runs so most likely not.
Story wise is next to none. Every quest and companion is either boring to death or plain insufferable to go through.
But D&D is at is core designed for build autism and replayability, so it got points for that.
But overall it is not a good game, more like a massive waste of potential. Sadly Larian games are always like this.
IS somebody else dissapointed you didnt get a "cinematic" ending aka that the narrator is telling you over paintrings how everything playerd out?
I think its fricking stupid that you have to talk to people at the end again to know what happened.
I am disappointed they didnt get multiple DMs with different accents so we are stuck with some try hard Britbong c**t.
They could have taken it a step further by giving different DMs different personalities to mix things up.
Lazy.
>How would you describe the replayability of Baldur's Gate 3?
zero, i couldnt even finish it once, i was completely burned out already in act 2.
besides, replay it? what for? i can change class every 5 seconds when i rest.
at least in BG2 each class had their own thing. >warriors had the de'arnise castle >druids got the grove >thiefs got the guild >mages got the dimention jumping ball
etc etc etc.
i replayed BG2 like 50 times, and i cant even finish BG3 once.
total, absolute dissapointment of a game.
these sad fricks at larian didnt try to make it even a tiny bit different from divinity original sin, they just made DoS3, change the title, and shipped the game.
I'm waiting for a sale to grab BG3.
Hope Fighter is good, I don't care much for minmaxing or dipping a lot because it breaks immersion, unless multiclassing has some story reason.
that troony that look like a woman but has a deep vin diesel voice was the funniest fricking shit i saw in gaming in the last 20 years.
if the devs didnt do it for shits and giggles i dunno why else would they do it.
That Black person was unironically the best character, but I played the game in spanish not english, so she didn't speak in ebonics since that doesn't exist in spain.
>generic Bantu accent >ebonics
This is what childhood buggery by papist priests does to an mf
3 months ago
Anonymous
Do Bongs even have Catholic priests?
Anyway most of the buggery in England happens in Eton College as an initiation rite for the sons of elites
So a justice sends his son to a boarding school to be buggered by e.g. an MPs son, and in turn he will bugger e.g. an Oxford Professors son and so on, if you dont get buggered in childhood you cant advance among the British elites as its a shared tradition
3 months ago
Anonymous
Bantu accent
In spanish she doesn't have any kind of accent, she speaks the same way as any other character, that's why she's the most likable since she has the best story missions.
Hogwarts legacy has gay shit, Black folk, and powerful women in it thoughbeit. But yea I guess it's right wing because of some culture war nonsense you'll make up
And every single one of the most woke games fail. You've just been here for too long to differentiate leftist propaganda and normal games anymore. You actually thrive on seeing "leftist things" because it means you get to complain, regardless of if it even matters. In BG3 it doesn't even though mentally ill people like to think it does, leftists and rightoids alike. Both parties see shit in there which doesn't really matter but make a huge number about it. Normal people who don't get offended about everything don't care and just play the game for what it is. if it's good it's good, if it's bad it's bad and reasons vary. If you want to roleplay a bearfricker homosexual then go ahead, no one really cares.
How can anyone say BG3 has replayability when finishing it just once feels like torment? By the time I reached third act, I was just begging the game to end because it was so shit.
Depends on you. I've beaten the game two times and I'm currently on my third playthrough. The game pretty much has me beat now however. I can't play much now after completing an evil Durge playthrough. Evil playthrough killed my interest in the game. It sucks storywise and has little to no content, so don't bother until they actually add stuff to it. Assuming they will do that anyway. Who knows.
Yes. Evil playthrough as of right now is boring as frick and you miss out on a lot of content. It's so much worse with Tav for obvious reasons. Good Durge's story is too good to pass up. It kills any reason to play as Tav aside from the fact it's a bit tougher to play another class that isn't default, well at least for me anyway. Might not matter to everybody else.
Only half the players passed act 1.
That means anything after the tutorial.
And considering 95% of the players crossed the tutorial, the drop is absurd.
A lot of people did not enjoy this game.
I think is more that people felt how much of a drudge it is and simply abandoned ship.
After Larian actually finish this fricking thing I believe the number will go up a bit.
>After Larian actually finish this fricking thing I believe the number will go up a bit.
What do you mean finish? Game is feature complete and finished.
>barely a few spells in the whole game >its so small and tiny, the 1st act map you can run though in 30 seconds >not even a night/day cycle, the game is perrma-locked to 12:00
larian released a game that shouldnt even be in an alpha test lmao.
this game beats 1/2 for me purely based on encounter design. playing the older games is exhausting because they just throw lazily designed fights at you constantly. 3 by comparison has relatively few but they're actually well designed and usually relevant to the narrative in some way
3 playthrus. One learning the game. One where you know everything and challenge yourself. One coop run where you try to frick everyone you haven’t fricked yet for laughs.
I kinda get bored going through the first act again. Trying to make multi-class builds dont usually shine until level 8 or near which is a bit of time to put into. Kinda wish there was some more interesting gear in act 1-2 theres a few but its very little compared to all the cool shit you get at act 3. But by then you nearly beaten the game.
Saying that, I think that could just be a problem with 5e and not bg3 itself when it comes to a more enjoyable character progression with multi-classing and builds.
my evil durge run still romanced lae'zel, she doesn't give a shit about anything you do. I think the only time she even spoke out was when I killed the priestess at last light and only because it caused us to have to fight 400 shadow demons AND everyone who lived there and even then all she said was "what the frick man" and immediately was cool again
If you like the characters and ME2-style companion system and quests and shit then there's a little replayability in taking other quest routes and romancing other companions, etc.
If you like the actual DnD build system then there's a shitload of replayability, especially given how many and varied magical items are available in the game
>lot of spells >lot of item interactions >not forced to do a whole acts worth of content to progress story or get unique items
Honestly rather high. If you know what you want, you can go get it and then try your shit out fairly quick.
Pretty good overall, there a lot of branching ways of handling problems with very different battles. And there's a lot of build variety you can do some fun theme parties
Not repayable if you have a life.
Game takes well over a hundred hours in a run if you explore everything per map.
It would take you forever to replay it.
Not worth it at all if you have other stuff to play piling up and limited gaming time to work/family...
Game is long as frick doing 100% of the content
Had it since launch and I just got to Act 3 last night and like 80 hours in (at least 10 AFK hours)
Just checked steam and only 38.5% of players have even made it to act 3 lol, wonder how many have actually beat it even once
this achievement is borked, I cleared the game and checked my cheevos earlier and didn't have it. Not that 40% is low or anything to begin with, it's actually pretty high for a Steam game, and a steam game where mods disable achievements at that.
Heard some anon say the completion rate was less than 10% on steam
Is that one also fricked? Probably is if mods disable it since there's so many OCD autistic fricks that simply can't play a game vanilla even on a first run
I MUST MOOOOOOOOD
I did everything I could first run because replaying did not sound appealing. Had 120 hours on completion, and probably 5 of those were sorting gear and consumables I ended up never using.
Might be worth it to do another run and be a dick at every opportunity but as it stands there are better vidya I could play.
>Game of the year
Half the players haven't even made it to the last act of the game and I'm sure the console ports have an even worse rate of attrition with their zoomer like attention spans
Can someone explain?
>and I'm sure the console ports have an even worse rate of attrition with their zoomer like attention spans
you have it the other way around, PC virgin. Console games have way higher completion rates. Take any two AAA games and compare the ratios and you'll see for yourself.
1. what the other anon said
2. people don't finish their games, players who finish their games are invariably a minority in most games
3. being a GOTY winner isn't really going to alter the above
4. see
this achievement is borked, I cleared the game and checked my cheevos earlier and didn't have it. Not that 40% is low or anything to begin with, it's actually pretty high for a Steam game, and a steam game where mods disable achievements at that.
"game of the year" isn't an actually award it's a gaming exposition clearly bought by the big names in the industry, namely microsoft and sony. They created game of the year to advertise their products, so game of the year is nothing more than a corporate product. If this corporate exposition is sponsoring BG3, which is unfinished and actual trash, that tells you how much the industry is scraping the bottom of the barrel
>Larian >big name
TGA is trash indeed, but the voting jury is external. And Larian has no big backers. Sony and Pajeetsoft certainly weren't betting on it or shilling it. In fact, Pajeetsoft couldn't even secure a single award for Turdfield, so that really should tell you how wrong and out of touch your conspiracy theories are, virgin.
>it's ackshually a big corporate buyoff >source? it was revealed to me in a dream, you naive, gullible moron, ofcourse it's real
Damn Larian, jumped from 6 million lifetime sales for DOS2, a middling isometric cRPG that was crowdfunded into somehow outplaying the big three in TGA and buying the award from Geoff. What kind of magic is Swen capable of?
>This corporate expo is actually a democratic event by GAMERS! >also this company that doesn't release sales figures revealed to me how much their games actually sold!
holy schizophrenic Black person
3 months ago
Anonymous
do you never feel a tinge of irony calling others schizophrenic for not taking your conspiracy theories at face value?
3 months ago
Anonymous
What conspiracy? the one you just invented to defend a corporate gaming industry exposition?
>hmmmm I wonder what happened >could it be getting millions and millions of dollars from China >naaaaaaah
3 months ago
Anonymous
>hmmm I wonder what happened >could it be the game is actually successful >could those steam reviews mean something >do all these people saying it's fun and good amount to something >nah, it's just the Chinese
Fricking hell, I'm so glad I don't have an ideological predilection to hate BG3. you people are literally mindbroken.
3 months ago
Anonymous
those steam reviews mean something
You cannot be serious.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Those are bought too!
Black folk on Ganker would literally believe the earth is flat if round earth had something to do wih BG3's success lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
>if you point out the game awards is a corporate expo you're a shill
>it's not possible that this corporate expo is bought off, it's totally a democratic event by faceless entities
Black person moron
>This corporate expo is actually a democratic event by GAMERS! >also this company that doesn't release sales figures revealed to me how much their games actually sold!
holy schizophrenic Black person
What conspiracy? the one you just invented to defend a corporate gaming industry exposition?
Reading steam reviews and some of them are on point even if you don't like the gay shit in the game >No microtransactions >No in-game purchases >No paywalls >No game passes >No preorder exploitative content >No internet connection needed to play.
Play better games.
Jesus, it all makes sense now. BG3gays literally have not played any other video games aside from FotM live service slop. NOW I'm understanding all the praise. Holy shit, you guys don't even know how bad you have it.
Of course it's obvious >corporate shill >promotes buzzwords as actual gameplay discussion
He's advocating mindless consumerism of videogames without even once considering if the gameplay is good. Of course BG3 is slop
BG3 is worth 60 dollars and I don't know why you stupid homosexuals are in every thread crying about this game if you hate it so much.
You guys are literally bigger homosexuals than this thing
3 months ago
Anonymous
>If you point out that the game awards is a corporate expo you're a shill >if you point out all the reviews of BG3 are buzzwords and don't talk about the gameplay you're a shill >if you talk about the actual gameplay or the company that made it you're a shill
is there anybody that's not a shill?
3 months ago
Anonymous
What's there to talk about regarding gameplay? It's D&D 5th edition with Larian barrelmancy. That's enough to explain the full depth of it to anyone who would care to play the game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>What's there to talk about regarding gameplay >if you try to talk about it you're a shill
lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
>make thread discussing game >get angry when people discuss the game
if you don't like it then go to steam discussions or facebook or some other shithole where criticism is not allowed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're literally not discussing the game
You're just crying like a b***h about it which I don't mind but I don't understand since you gays are in every thread about it
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think an anti-elden ring shitposting discord shifted focus to BG3 for some reason. I have made several stealth threads in the past few days that slipped right by them with no shitposting.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You're literally not discussing the game
I have been, you're the one crying over other people's opinions instead of discussing the game.
But we all know you BG3gays haven't played the game so I don't expect much.
Physical goodies in a deluxe edition isn't any of those things.
>"none of it is in-game" >"there is zero in-game content behind a paywall"
Again, why are you lying? This information can be found by just going to the store page. Who do you think you're able to fool?
>there are no microtransactions or preorder bonuses >OK there are preorder bonuses and deluxe edition shit but none of it is in-game content >OK OK there are in-game preorder bonuses and paywalled content but uh... I personally consider it irrelevant SO IT DOESN'T COUNT OK IT JUST DOESN'T
I'll ask yet again: WHY are you lying? Nobody is going to think any less of the game because it gives you some silly outfits in an optional deluxe pack. So why are you intentionally lying and saying it doesn't exist?
Could it be that the script you were given says to push the "no microtransactions" angle even if it means making provably false statements?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because a deluxe edition isn't an MTX.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Because a deluxe edition isn't an MTX. >we are selling outfits and dice skins and other shit that cannot be obtained in the game as a separate purchse >BUT we decided to call it a "deluxe edition" INSTEAD of a "microtransaction" >so that makes it ok!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The chad yes strategy only works when you're taking a controversial yet admirable stance.
There's nothing controversial about putting mtx in your game and then lying about it.
The real chad move would be to say "yes this game has mtx but it's still a masterpiece".
You've already chickened out and lied about it, you can't get that b***h status off you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
A game having a dedicated store for microtransactions and a game having a deluxe edition with some extra cosmetic content are not the same thing.
Dark Souls II's shitty preorder bonuses are not the same as DMC V's shitty ingame store for buying red orbs with real money.
Both suck, but they're not the same thing, moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Literally what does any of that have to do with what I've been saying, moron?
I don't give a frick that BG3 has a deluxe edition, nobody does.
What I want to know is why you homosexuals go out of your way to purposefully lie about it in every single thread.
Why do you keep pushing this moronic "IT'S NOT LIKE OTHER VIDEO GAMES" angle when it doesn't do anything unusual for a single-player game and your little corpo spiel is provably false?
3 months ago
Anonymous
You appear to have some kind of mental illness
I apologise for taxing you so.
>deluxe edition that has an art book and soundtrack >only thing that it adds to the game is a cosmetic cape and hat >was given away for free to preorders
wanna try again, virgin?
I love how of all of this list all he could cherrypick is >it akshually has mtx
and his argument is basically
>look at this digital deluxe edition that has *checks notes* A FRICKING ART BOOK, SOUNDTRACK AND A HAT & CAPE!
BG3 haters always have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find something to force against the game, it's always either something so pathetic and forced like this or some schizophrenic flat earther tier conspiracy theory. Black folk literally turned Ganker into their own digital mental asylum where they cope by building a bubble of delusions to avoid confronting reality.
Physical goodies in a deluxe edition isn't any of those things.
>deluxe edition that has an art book and soundtrack >only thing that it adds to the game is a cosmetic cape and hat >was given away for free to preorders
wanna try again, virgin?
Because you're only technically correct, but all that stuff is irrelevant nonsense.
>there are no microtransactions or preorder bonuses >OK there are preorder bonuses and deluxe edition shit but none of it is in-game content >OK OK there are in-game preorder bonuses and paywalled content but uh... I personally consider it irrelevant SO IT DOESN'T COUNT OK IT JUST DOESN'T
I'll ask yet again: WHY are you lying? Nobody is going to think any less of the game because it gives you some silly outfits in an optional deluxe pack. So why are you intentionally lying and saying it doesn't exist?
Could it be that the script you were given says to push the "no microtransactions" angle even if it means making provably false statements?
Uninstalled after I realized that we were capped at level fricking 12
What the FRICK is the point of playing a wizard if I can only be level fricking 12
Frick this fricking game
One level for every homosexual and troony trying to frick the player character each day
Frick BG3 frick this fricking idiotic game >go rescue the Black person >go rescue the lesbian angel >gay gnomes let you know they're really fricking gay >hi I'm a plot-relevant druid can we have gay bearsex? >5th ed (really fricking gay) >wow the enemy is so evil you guise!!1!1!! >we removed alignment btw >It turns out I'm a vampire! Wanna have gay sex, <PlayerName>? >DOWN DOWN DOWN BY THE RIVER X100
frick this fricking dogshit game
Did they not playtest and realize that it is fricking annoying as shit to have some strangled cat in your ear all the time?
That fricking fight in the devil's lair with her and him wailing was the fricking worst shit.
>Uninstalled after I realized that we were capped at level fricking 12
The tabletop game caps published adventures around that level as well, because campaigns almost never make it past that point and so they realized they couldn't sell books.
Frick them, I hope they drop dead. Fricking c**ts.
That is a non-issue. Plenty of modules run from 1-8 or 1-10. We've been over this, but how would you even incorporate any 7th level Abjuration spells?
>non-issue
Non-argument. >how would you XYZ
Dunno mate, how did Baldur's Gate 2 do it?
Go frick yourself, Larian shill. Die.
>Uninstalled after I realized that we were capped at level fricking 12
The tabletop game caps published adventures around that level as well, because campaigns almost never make it past that point and so they realized they couldn't sell books.
>the game isn't literal malware
k
good job guys you really made a video game that functions like a video game instead of a casino
it's still fricking shit
As someone that liked it, non-existent. I 100%'d on a standard good-guy play through. Tried a 2nd run as the dark urge based on the weird astroturfing around here but there was almost no reactivity to my evil actions and a disappointing lack of dedicated unique evil companions. Additionally, the 5E system and balancing means that there's a ton of spell overlap and redundancy between different classes that further reduces how unique an additional playthrough feels.
Referring to the gays who are in every BG3 thread crying about it
The game is worth 50 or 60 bucks so I don't know what's getting these guys all fricked up about it
I had to take a week break after starting the underdark area. finally started my playthrough back up and it's okay but dark urge is clearly written to resist and not give in. you literally cant get away with murdering shadowheart all options are same outcome and you get confronted and forced to savescum a single deception check
also shit like options to kill Isobel have the same exact result no matter what it literally forces a cutscene no matter what
>you literally cant get away with murdering shadowheart all options are same outcome and you get confronted and forced to savescum a single deception check
almost like making an rpg that emphasizes player choice have a plot that revolves around a single character being present is a SHIT idea and yet everyone keeps fricking it up.
no shart died just you literally had more options to get away with murdering a dumbass bard you just met than a extremely important npc that would force all your companions to attack you unless you passed a 21 deception check
like it's a very forced thing and you have only 1 way to get through it
Eh.
I was absolutely enamored on my first play through. Tried to do a second a few months later and only got halfway through act 1. Maybe when we get a definitive version I'll finish a 2nd
I only had to tell him to frick off once, but i do understand being annoyed with him being into you. It annoyed me too when I didn't suspect that some innocuous sounding dialog options were really saying "frick me pls"
>playing a game that kills you if you go off the main path >playing a game that is sold as an rpg but is made by a company that only makes action games
I doesn't. If you never interact with the portal, or walk away from it when Gale asks you to lend him a hand, he'll be gone from the playthrough.
Remember, when browsing BG3 threads, that 99% of """critics""" never played the game.
no. just leave him in the portal or rip off his hands if youre durge and dont want him in your party. if he dies after being rescued he kills the party 3 days later though
It has no replayability. That's why Tencent is desperately still shilling the worsr crpg ever made after almost a year. Still hasn't made a dime back on its shill campaign.
>"I took millions of dollars from these guys and they own a third of my company" >"but that in no way influences my decision-making in the slightest"
why are you like this?
Finished my first playthrough. 200 hours. Act 3 was a terrible slog and should have had 70% of it cut, and it would have been re-playable for me. As of now, I would MAYBE play it again if I find myself with nothing else to play a few years down the road. Though with heavy modding, especially to the battle system, I could give it another go sooner.
Bad. >Evil playthroughs are the same as good playthroughs with less content. >4 player party focus lets you specialize in everything >combat is dog shit with no simultaneos turns, making it a slog to repeat
Larian makes bad CRPGs for nu-WRPG casuals who want linear movie games like Bioshit.
zero it was boring shit 30 minutes in and I've seen that it only gets worse after Act 1. this was my Dark Urge/genocide attempt, so not a good sign. Outer Worlds made it longer with a similar character, which is terrible. BG3 is basically a 0/10
Wait 5 years
not great not terrible
worth replaying for a durge run if you didnn't play one the first time, but that's about it.
You really do love your gays and trannies in games huh?
he didnt say that
Really depends on how interested you are in the different outcomes of your actions.
>different outcomes of your actions
>BG3
Holy shit are you people stupid. All the endings of this game are almost identical, only the dialogue lines differ slightly. Vanish, troony.
You lost, get over it.
Here are your wooden sticks for dilation, Sir. You can use them while you have gay sex with squids in your AAA visual novel.
You lost schizo, time to find a new hill to die on.
I lost nothing, because I don't care what journalists think. You, on the other hand, clearly do. Your life and your happiness depends on gaming journos. Now suck some dick, little gay.
You lost.
>All the endings of this game are almost identical
I wish I could so effortlessly lie
Hey troony, guess what? Your "game" doesn't respect even the basic rules of proper writing. It doesn't even have any kind of build-up or progression related to those brainworms even when the struggle related to them is the fricking key part of its storytelling. It's a game made by Tumblr morons for Tumblr morons such as yourself. Fricking leave when you are this idiotic.
>sees anonymous person on the internet with a differing opinion
>immediately thinks of trannies
I am a 43 year old man, and I frankly don't care about reading the rest of what you wrote.
You will never be a man, you noodle-armed troony. You fall on the floor and start screaming when you see anything that resembles heterosexuality. Now dilate, "granny."
Ok
What a loser.
you will never have the brain of an adult, you will forever be stuck in your internet lingo, your peers will never see you as more than a manchild
Is this what they call "dilation rage?"
*pats my little moron on the head*
Just like every other crpg in existence.
Zero.
Really depends on how strong your minmax or class experimentation autism is. It's worth playing maybe twice for the story and characters alone, but if you really like building out characters I can see you playing it a bunch of times.
>For the story and characters alone
Hahahahaha hahahahah!!!
Hahahahaha hahahahahaaaah!!!!!
>Really depends on how strong your minmax or class experimentation autism is
Mine only allowed twice. Its fricking hard deliertly doing the wrong/moronic choices when there is no power up.
>150 GB
Thanks for reminding me. I can clear up that space.
I have to yet play this game
depends if there is a build variety that changes how you pay the game , also whether story/game progress is linear or not ?
Yea there's a ton of build variety. Martial and mage classes all play very differently and you can freely respec both your character and all companions to any class or multiclass of your choosing. The game is about as non-linear as a non open world game can be.
that's makes it great then
did you find the turn based combat boring ? my only experience with that genre is darkest dungeon and I liked that game
Except there's no build variety. The amount of classes is small, the amount of skills is small and the amount of items (that you could create builds around) is small. The amount of feats, too, is small, to the point you have no options to pick from, but are forced to pick the few ones that make sense unless you want to handicap yourself.
>my only experience with that genre is darkest dungeon
You are the type of person who might like this game. This game is hated by RPG veterans, but casuals like it.
Don't listen to this disingenuous moron, he's probably an owlkek still assblasted. Every single dnd 5e class is in the game, you can multiclass however you want, and there are like 700 different spells/skills.
You're an uneducated loser. You are a disingenuous liar when you pretend the game has D&D 5e classes when they aren't even finished. You don't even know that D&D classes have 20 levels. These are like mini versions of them: only 12 levels are covered and even those 12 levels are not covered wholly. The game lacks tons of skills. So it's like you take a warrior and cut his head and torso off and then just represent the legs and say "hey, here's a warrior for you." What a fricking douchebag you are. Shame on you and have a nice day, liar.
Of course they're not level 20, 7th level spells and beyond would be literally impossible to properly put in the game. It's a video game not a tabletop you moron. You're a moron
You are so stupid you don't even know what impossible means. Even those few spells Larian put in the game have been edited by them, nothing would stop them from editing more advanced spells and making encounters more challenging. Dumb lying troony.
There would literally be no way to put soul prison into a game like this without completely changing what it does, thus making it irrelevant that it's in the game in the first place. You're fricking stupid dude lmao
What the frick are you talking about?
The game already has edited skills. There's no logical contradiction in adding more edited skills. Dumb fricking troony, you'll never understand RPGs one bit. You just repeat lazy marketing excuses by Larian. You must work for them.
lmao okay man
The fact you think BG3 is equal to D&D 5e makes you a massive moron. It's not a D&D game, you moron. It stands against everything that is D&D.
Nobody wants to get a Wish spell and you can only pick 5 options from a list. It's lame as hell. Yes they changed and edited some stuff already but "more is better" doesn't apply here. Adding even more nerfed stuff becomes progressively worse and worse
You don't know that D&D classes have 20 levels so shut the frick up. You think D&D classes have only 12 levels. So shut up. You have never played a real RPG in your life.
You didn't even know that D&D has 20 levels per class so shut the frick up. You are clueless.
>7th level spells and beyond would be literally impossible to properly put in the game
yeah i guess you DO need good devs for that
which makes it impossible for larian
nta but let's be real for a minute, has any game actually done what BG3 did?
the second best thing for me would be DOS2 and that was way more limited in scope, but I don't play a lot of tabletop/cRPGs to begin with
I really can't see any better way to feasibly do more with how niche these types of games are and their budgets
having the game fully voice acted and mocapped (found both okay to good for the most part) was a huge step up in quality but it did come at the cost of having near infinite permutations for 'real choices', the only way that can be a thing is probably using something like ChatGPT or AI dungeon
not having* near infinite choices
>has any game actually done what BG3 did?
you mean desecrating the grave of a video game series that was over 20 years ago to make a sequel that is not a sequel with the worst edition of dnd as a ruleset?
probably not, that is pretty groundbreaking stuff
and I guess I also forgot my question which would be: what more could a video game do with tabletop that BG3 hasn't done? how would you improve the formula fundamentally while maintaining a product that's economically viable and won't alienate a huge part of your fanbase/investors?
I'm being serious anon
I don't know why you're bothering
>I'm being serious anon
do i look like i am laughing?
>what more could a video game do with tabletop that BG3 hasn't done?
they could add a dm mode where i can make my own stories that i can run with my friends
they could let me do a full party of custom characters
they could use a better ruleset that actually benefits from turnbased combat
they could have not called it baldurs gate 3 if its not a sequel to bg2/tob
>they could let me do a full party of custom characters
>they could use a better ruleset that actually benefits from turnbased combat
fair
>dm mode
this is the one I most agree with but sadly will probably never happen
they promised mod tools at some point that would make this possible but I've seen other anons point out that a lot of their model importing tools etc are proprietary and would require third party licensing in perpetuity or close to it
but I still don't understand why they would promise something they know they can't deliver..that part fricking sucks
>has any game actually done what BG3 did?
Which is? Use your words.
I did. the best part of the game for me and a lot of the people was how much attention was given to the rp aspect with regards to having better voice acting and animations than 99% of the products available in my experience
cRPGs always felt clunky for me, even DOS2, and they all lack the polish that BG3 does (talking relative to the rest of the market, the game is still FULL of bugs and other shit)
it's a very competent product and a fun game, but what more could be done? I think that's a fair question and I'm genuinely interested in your answers
In that case, yes, plenty of games have good voice acting and animations.
Not him but stfu anon jfc. BG3 bridges the gap between cinematic and open ended. That's why it's good. We don't need the game to be 5 people pilpuling with each other about minute details until the GM nerfs the scenario just to make you feel better about your own head cannon. It's a great game that achieves the monumental task of making a sperg product that normies enjoy. Sorry that it's not autistic enough for you.
BG3 is a D:OS2 clone with Dragon Age 2 influences. It's not a tabletop RPG. Real Baldur's Gate games, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder games etc. have all done a better job at producing a tabletop experience than BG3.
>Neverwinter nights
>good
You just outed yourself you poser
You just outed yourself. And yes, you can't write, so I'm right. NWN multiplayer is legendary for bringing social tabletop experiences to PC.
Surely you admit BG3 is trash when you talk about outing oneself, right?
>Real Baldur's Gate games
I played all of them and actually prefer them to BG3 but they are undeniably a less accurate depiction of the tabletop experience than the modern game is.
>hey bro, here's a dice for you, feel free to reroll it as many times as you want for skill checks, we don't really believe in skill checks in BG3 🙂
Just frick off, thanks.
I didn't say it was 1:1, I said it's closer than the original games, which is, again, undeniably true. If you disagree, feel free to explain to me how the original games (which, again, I prefer to the newer one) are closer to the real tabletop experience.
I do. That's how I know.
It's not closer. What kind of fricking tabletop experience is one where you don't even have to respect the dice and one where there is no freedom or levels or fricking anything? Frick off.
You are the kind of moron who just throws all the chess pieces to the floor and calls it a chess experience. No, it's not, you fricking donkey, you aren't even playing it. Idiot.
>saving your game is exclusive to baldur's gate 3
>It's not closer. What kind of fricking tabletop experience is one where you don't even have to respect the dice and one where there is no freedom or levels or fricking anything? Frick off.
None of the games force you to "respect the dice". They all have save-reload. Tabletop has rerolls, should the DM allow it.
You seem to think the tabletop experience has anything to do with videogame-esque rules that must be followed. What separates the tabletop experience from a videogame experience is that you can decide with your friends what rules to follow and when, rather than always rigidly adhering to them because that's how it's programmed. Tabletop is about going on a cool imaginary adventure with your bros. I don't think any video game comes close, but in a comparison, I'd say the newer game is closer than the older ones if only because it hones in a bit more on that "we're all on a big adventure together" feel. Still not the same as playing tabletop, but it's a video game so it can't be.
Stop projecting, it makes you look moronic.
>They all have save-reload
You are the dumbest motherfricker on this planet. You have the dumbest opinions and the worst argumentative skills. Amazing. Can't wait to for the day you develop cancer.
Actually, I'm the smartest person ITT. My evidence: you can't refute a single point I've made, only throw verbal shit. I don't even like BG3, but you're so moronic you can't comprehend anything other than a black-and-white, all-good-all-bad rhetoric. So basically, u mad, cry more.
You have failed to provide a single counter-argument to anything that has been undeniably established in the conversation so far. So you lost the argument and you will lose at life. Now develop that cancer and leave, glasses.
Wrong.
made the statement that
>It's not a tabletop RPG. Real Baldur's Gate games[...] have all done a better job at producing a tabletop experience than BG3.
to which I disagreed. The rebuttal this poster came up with was that BG3 does not respect the sanctity of rolling, to which I respond
>None of the games force you to "respect the dice". They all have save-reload. Tabletop has rerolls, should the DM allow it.
>You seem to think the tabletop experience has anything to do with videogame-esque rules that must be followed. What separates the tabletop experience from a videogame experience is that you can decide with your friends what rules to follow and when, rather than always rigidly adhering to them because that's how it's programmed. Tabletop is about going on a cool imaginary adventure with your bros. I don't think any video game comes close, but in a comparison, I'd say the newer game is closer than the older ones if only because it hones in a bit more on that "we're all on a big adventure together" feel. Still not the same as playing tabletop, but it's a video game so it can't be.
This is a pretty clear cut counter-argument. The response to this post was a simple "you are dumb" with nothing to substantiate it, basically just doo-doo flinging. If you have a counterpoint, now's your chance to air it.
Talk all you want but you haven't responded to my argument, only evaded it.
>hurr durr a game having a saving system (like almost every game ever) is the same as a game having in-built anti-RPG systems
You are truly the dumbest and the most uneducated moron on this planet. Go clean your glasses you dimwit and fricking stop to think for the first time in your life. You can't make basic distinctions.
Hey morons, remember how this conversation is about whether or not BG3 is CLOSER to the tabletop experience than BG1&2? I mention save games because both games have it, so it eliminates them as a factor for the purpose of comparison.
So you must therefore be referring to the inspiration die. Which serve the same purpose as inspiration die in modern day DnD, a mechanical bonus as a reward for playing your character. Actually, now that you mention it, the original games have no such equivalent for rewarding the player for roleplaying. They have very limited room for roleplay at all really, you're just playing through them like any other videogame. So again, BG3 does a better job of emulating the tabletop experience by encouraging the player to play their character through mechanical reward.
Of course, this is still an extremely limited system within the game. Again, it does not compare to real tabletop at all, it's only closer when comparing it to the decades old prior games.
And if you're not talking about inspiration die, then what in the frick ARE you talking about?
No shit moron.
bg2 felt way more like a role playing game than bg3 did.
bg3 played like a parody of an actual dnd game, like a stupid family guy episode.
>bg3 played like a parody of an actual dnd game, like a stupid family guy episode.
So exactly like an actual game of tabletop. Thank you for finally getting my point, I was starting to think I was arguing with chatbots.
What exactly makes bg2 "feel" way more like a role playing game, in your opinion?
>when you speak of BG1 and BG2, you have to rely on irrelevant things such as saving features.
>So you must therefore be referring to the inspiration die. Which serve the same purpose as inspiration die in modern day DnD, a mechanical bonus as a reward for playing your character. Actually, now that you mention it, the original games have no such equivalent for rewarding the player for roleplaying.
Read the post you're responding to, mongoloid.
I already did read your post and it's filled with utter stupidity of this caliber. You can't even tell that saving is not a game mechanic. You believe saving is comparable to game mechanics. I can't babysit morons like you all day long, there's no hope for people like you. Just hop off the cliff, cheers.
>You can't even tell that saving is not a game mechanic.
Never said or implied it was. I explicitly pointed out what I thought was obvious here
>I mention save games because both games have it, so it eliminates them as a factor for the purpose of comparison.
Why do I feel like I'm going to be doing a lot of pointing-to-things-I-already-said-but-you-refused-to-read? I'm not responding to any more posts that ignore things I explicitly say, it's a waste of time.
Because it wouldn't contribute to the discussion. The inclusion of an inspiration-die like mechanic is already a point over the older games in this comparison, since they have no equivalent.
Procrastinating on work lol
>but were not talking about tabletop, were talking about a video game.
^my first post in the thread. I was and have only been discussing the games in the context of how well they "produce a tabletop experience". I even said multiple times that I like the older games more, BG3 is pretty shit in a lot of ways. But the game itself is still closer to how it feels to play tabletop than the older games, even if the writing IMO is less enjoyable. I definitely felt like it was easier to "play a character" in BG3, than in 1 or 2, even if none come close to tabletop in this regard.
>n bg2 it feels like an actual adventure in faerun.
>in bg3 i was constantly expecting some crazy ass Deadpool marvel shit to pop out - and it usually did (everything is a fricking joke in BG3, nothing seems serious).
I absolutely agree (though not with that last comment, most of the game was pretty serious), but an actual adventure in faerun is never what tabletop has ever felt like in my experience. Tabletop has always been a silly pastime for me, and even in the more serious story-heavy "this time we're not gonna frick around" campaigns, there was always goofing off in the downtime. BG1&2 is like tabletop if the DM was playing by himself.
>The inclusion of an inspiration-die like mechanic is already a point over the older games in this comparison
Quite frankly I'd disagree. From my experience with 5e, inspiration was usually reserved for big character defining moments. Players would hold onto it and only use it if they absolutely needed to. Contrarily in BG3 inspiration is handed out like candy and awarded for the most minute of tasks (Succeeding on a skill check, entering a location, picking up an item, etc). Furthermore because they can be banked and rolled subsequently you can nearly guarantee a success on something you're already mathematically favored for, removing much of the point of rolling dice in the first place.
>From my experience with 5e, inspiration was usually reserved for big character defining moments. Players would hold onto it and only use it if they absolutely needed to. Contrarily in BG3 inspiration is handed out like candy and awarded for the most minute of tasks (Succeeding on a skill check, entering a location, picking up an item, etc). Furthermore because they can be banked and rolled subsequently you can nearly guarantee a success on something you're already mathematically favored for, removing much of the point of rolling dice in the first place.
I agree. It's extremely lenient, but again, its mere inclusion is more than the original games did in terms of encouraging the player to play to their character.
I think it's also worth discussing the fact that such a mechanic didn't even exist as a concept in tabletop at the time of the first game's development. If it had, would they have included it? I believe so, and likely done a better job in implementing it than what's in BG3. But it wasn't and they didn't so we don't know.
Anyway there are more factors than just the inspiration die that lead me to the conclusion that BG3 is closer to tabletop than the earlier games. The non-combat, non-story, non-character interactions, for example. Things like playing music. Stuff that has little in the way of mechanical benefit, they're just there because a player might want to have a little moment where they're playing their flute before they dunk on these goblins or the like. In terms of actual roleplay functionality, BG1&2 are pretty barebones, with little to offer in terms of fluff functions like that.
Lol
Mental illness.
>So exactly like an actual game of tabletop.
but were not talking about tabletop, were talking about a video game.
bg2 is a better DND video game than bg3 is.
>What exactly makes bg2 "feel" way more like a role playing game
the dialogues and the story.
in bg2 it feels like an actual adventure in faerun.
in bg3 i was constantly expecting some crazy ass Deadpool marvel shit to pop out - and it usually did (everything is a fricking joke in BG3, nothing seems serious).
How many levels do you think tabletop DnD 5th edition has?
As many as you want. If you disagree, you don’t play dnd.
why the frick are you arguing with these morons that do nothing but reply in bad faith? are you ok?
>please stop criticising, only positive opinions allowed
nah
who are you quoting
>why the frick are you arguing with these morons that do nothing but reply in bad faith?
>please stop criticising, only positive opinions allowed
just rehprased your stupid post : )
so you're quoting no one and just arguing with something you made up? that's really weird anon
i was quoting you, but i used other words : )
>noo nooo stop discussing with people who dislike this game
here, another way to rephrase your post : )
I don't think you know what "quote" means
newbie. get a hobby instead of shitting up threads with your moronic "opinions".
BG3 fanbase is the worst kind you could have for your video game, attention prostitutes, coomers, self insert losers, furries and femcels, literally the worst fanbase in the last 5 years
>you can't critize BG3, best game ever, best writing, waifus
>I am a child and this is literally the first "fanbase" I've ever interacted with
Neat.
This site is 18+
hmm, i don't remember FNAF losers shiting up Ganker for 6 months like BG3 drones, remember 30 threads daily for like a a month and a half in August and September? then 20
go outside and touch some concret, you're the reason why Ganker is such a shithole
you're defending like you're paid drone, 90% of BG3 drones are like that, but you're doing it for free like Jannie
>dont you dare to speak against BG3, we will bring up Steam numbers and metacritic score
>it's bad for people to talk about video games on Ganker
sorry sars we shall redeem back to vpol posting yes please
>TORTANIC gay parroting opinions
not drone
>liking a game and saying its good
drone shill frick off
Not my problem you don't enjoy vidya anymore moron.
Reminder it's one person and he just replied to you twice
if you are allowed to criticize then I am allowed to defend....freedom of speech b***h.
>bad faith
The moron you are replying to is unironically arguing that the way BG3 handles skill checks is more similar to tabletop RPGs than how BG1 and BG2 handle skill checks.
And yes, I know I'm replying to a moron right now, since you pretend anything is done in bad faith. It's a fact BG3 is a D:OS2 clone, it's not a made-up argument. It's not a tabletop experience. Fricking play both games and compare them if you can't see it.
Why do people like you always act as if being closer to the authentic D&D experience is a good thing for a video game based on D&D? There is a reason why literally nobody plays pen & paper D&D anymore and even during its peak popularity it was only ever played by a fringe group of the most autistic nerds. A video game should never try to be authentic to such a deeply flawed and bad source material. The only value D&D has ever provided to video games was some basic rule system and settings that came with their established lore and worldbuilding so video game writers didn't have to make all of that up themselves.
>Why do people like you always act as if being closer to the authentic D&D experience is a good thing for a video game based on D&D?
I'm not, the guys arguing with me are, lol. I already said I prefer the older games, which I'm saying are less "authentic" to the D&D experience.
>why literally nobody plays pen & paper D&D anymore
Didn't it hit its all-time peak popularity pretty recently? At least in terms of media saturation, but that's bound to translate to lots of players too, even if those players are casual scum or whatever.
>>bg3 played like a parody of an actual dnd game, like a stupid family guy episode.
>So exactly like an actual game of tabletop.
Actual moron.
You have never played the tabletop
>No shit moron
So you are wrong. You just admitted it. BG3 is by its very design anti-RPG meanwhile when you speak of BG1 and BG2, you have to rely on irrelevant things such as saving features. That's like saying x is less of a tabletop RPG than y because the sun is shining outside, it has nothing to do with it.
Thanks for admitting you're an idiot who has failed to refute anything established so far. Now back to having bear sex, troony.
Curious why you didn't mention that you can't bank multiple uses of inspiration in tabletop like you can in BG3.
So Crash Bandicoot is a tabletop RPG according to you because you can load a save in it? Even when it severely lacks RPG elements.
Saving is not a game mechanic nor is it an RPG mechanic. Saving and loading exists so a player can continue playing the game later. It's not part of the actual game, it's more of a technical feature.
The fact you can't distinguish the actual game and a technical feature shows how much of a dumbass you are.
There is true and there is false. You'd know this if you had ever studied logic in your life. But you haven't, so you are stuck being wrong all the time about everything throughout your entire life. So enjoy the ride when you're like that.
You play nothing but AAA games, you big fat normie.
>but they are undeniably a less accurate depiction of the tabletop experience
so? go play actual dnd if you want the tabletop experience, you homosexual
>complains game is a bastardization of the tabletop
>"well actually if i wanted to play true to tabletop i'd play it not a video game"
>has any game actually destroyed the legacy of a beloved RPG franchise more than BG3 did?
I don't think any game has achieved that.
Hey moron, most campaigns don't go to lv20 because the powerlevel gets insane. Most classes can fight gods at that level. Stopping at 12 was a good decision
Posting this from gay bar, I bet? BLM cuck.
>
>most campaigns don't go to lv20 because the powerlevel gets insane. Most classes can fight gods at that level.
so make a campaign where you fight god as the final boss?
Go play a Japanese game, Black person.
He said final boss not prologue
The issue is that the mechanics of high level play are impossible to put in videogame. Plane shifting, global teleporting, polymorphing anything to anything, fricking WISH. Without a fricking GTA6 budget that shit just isn't materializing.
BG2 had no problem with that, my team actually felt like a bunch of godlike motherfrickers by the time i finished it.
>BG2 had no problem with that
HAAAHAHHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>You are the type of person who might like this game. This game is hated by RPG veterans, but casuals like it.
I'm just not into turn based combat , and I rarely play RPGs , I was willing to cope with the turn based elements in DD because I liked the hardcore aspect
game just reminded me of dragon age origin somehow
however I don't understand the conflicting answer , there is build variety here then ?
There are 12 classes, each have subclasses (46 total), you can multiclass (spec into any class you want at any level), and there are like 700 spells/skills. I don't know how many gear pieces there are in the game but I'm sure it's a couple hundred at least.
Just go watch a youtube video or something on builds if you want to see variety. The Black person in here is shitposting his ass off for whatever reason.
And the moron also lies to you about linearity: the game is very linear. You have three chapters, three maps, which you are forced to clear in order. There is one minimap that is not required and which you can choose to clear between chapters, but it only takes like one hour and isn't really a big decision. So the game is very linear, you follow these clearly defined paths in the map and just clear the trash mobs the game throws at you.
Evil route is undercooked, most quests end up with people dying so they don't show up later down the line to give you more quests.
Also combat in act3 is shit thanks to all the loot breaking the game, my fricking monk hits harder than a my barbarian, and he can attack twice as many times.
Like a Bioware game, I guess. Definitely the type of game I'll be coming back to once in a while.
What a fricking gay you are. You should be ashamed
It's too exhausting to replay.
This. Hell I became exhausted on my first playthrough by act 3. They unironically backloaded too much content and act 3 has WAY too many combat encounters especially since by act 3 combat had become really repetitive anyway.
Some moron said the game's encounter design is good even when it's filled with boring repetitive fights over and over again that require zero thought. And yes, especially in the third act, where you don't even have character progression anymore because the game runs out of levels.
Act3 is just a mess full of stuff clearly meant for the upper city like the House of Grief (built right behind Jaheira's house lol), Counting house, Sorcerous Sundries, Devil's Fee, Cazador Mansion...
I think some of baldur's gate might have been accesible in act2 at some point in development, maybe rivington and lower city.
Some of their quests make no sense for lvl10/12 chads
I really like Act 3 cause there's a lot to do
Maybe it's cause Act 2 is such fricking shit if you chose not to recruit a demon and a gay.
Only good thing in Act 2 was the Shar temple
I hope Act 3 isn't as shitty
I liked the invasion that's about it. Act 3 is all over the place but at least it isn't all gray and there's actual fricking quests to do. If you go against the grove act 2 basically has no content which is lame cause the tieflings are clearly bad for the city
Yeah that's a problem a lot of those new rpg have
It has none. I keep wanting to replay to try out evil side story. But holy frick it is tedious and there’s barely any difference. There’s no exploration no discovery. Every conversation is something you’ve already heard. None of the characters have anything new to say. It was great one time but even as a fairy lazy player my first play through saw every area, every character, every “secret”. It has nothing to offer me on a second play through.
Good but not mind-blowing. Same story events but different perspectives. D&D classes allow for a lot of experimentation though.
Eww that TAA. SMAA might have jaged edges everywhere but at least it doesn't look like there's fog in everyones faces all the time.
Definitely more repayable than WOTR for me. I'm on my second playthrough now(or should I say third since in my first honor run I fricked up).
Durge honor run is worth it. Although the fun mostly comes from the fact that you can't save scum(well you can if you close the game from task manager but you get the gist).
So far the most noteworthy legendary action was surprisingly Nere's.
I've replayed it four times, the replayability is pretty high IMO.
its pretty awful, the most significant choice is going with goblins or the grove with the tieflings acting as a sort of neutral party that really isn't should you go with the latter as there's no reason to get rid of them outside of rp. after that there isn't really much of a good or evil path as there's no other choice even close to the significance of that event.
Bioware's illusion of choice.
Good for two playthroughs. Start with goody two shoes and then another run as psycho Durge. Lot of good waifus too, so worakryth playing for different romance paths.
Yeah, to see how devoid of content the "evil" (actually muderhobo) path is. Even more so after they made Minthara recruitable by goodies.
>muh DnD
Who gives a frick, I wan to play a video game not that autistic pen and paper clusterfrick with a rule book thicker than the bible
I'd say its more replayable than any other triple aaa worth its salt in the market
>It smells better than the other piles of turd next to it!
Do the dreams stop at some point or are they just completely going to ruin the pacing by discouraging you from resting?
They do stop. I suspect that BG3 was a race against the clock at some point but internal testers found it tedious, so now it is just some plot fluff.
If you don't turn look into every barrel, clear every encounter, talk to every npc and do every single side quest in act 1 you will end up underleveled for act 2. Rushing main quest also locks you out of many side quests.
I dont want to side either with the gold pieces or the druids, I am helping Halsin to clear out those dickheads in the Goblin camp rn so he can tell that c**t in the Grove to stop killing kids and have it be over with.
Should I go back and kill one of them for the XP before clearing out the Goblins?
No
Buy an ad.
>game is 80 hours long give or take
>replayability
i'm not a neet anymore, i'm not going to play a game that is this fricking long more than once
>Tencent flooding the board again
No one played it cares about the worst CRPG ever made
zero lmao
It's weird that I want to replay Divinity Original Sins 2 all the time but I have zero interest to replay this one after the second time (I didn't even enjoy that second playthrough)
>It's weird that I want to replay Divinity Original Sins 2
It really is considering how tedious it is.
not him but you aint lying, i had a second friend who wanted to play with me(on console to boot) and i was sick of it in act 2. by act 3 i was done
I got over 300 hours. I finally 100% the game after finishing the durge run. I don't think I will play the game any time soon unless friends want to make an another campaign. But we already did two runs so most likely not.
>I got over 300 hours.
That's a lot of gay sex
Story wise is next to none. Every quest and companion is either boring to death or plain insufferable to go through.
But D&D is at is core designed for build autism and replayability, so it got points for that.
But overall it is not a good game, more like a massive waste of potential. Sadly Larian games are always like this.
After finishing the game:
IS somebody else dissapointed you didnt get a "cinematic" ending aka that the narrator is telling you over paintrings how everything playerd out?
I think its fricking stupid that you have to talk to people at the end again to know what happened.
its a larian game, they are all very disappointing
at this point is like stockholm syndrome for lariandrones
I am disappointed they didnt get multiple DMs with different accents so we are stuck with some try hard Britbong c**t.
They could have taken it a step further by giving different DMs different personalities to mix things up.
Lazy.
>How would you describe the replayability of Baldur's Gate 3?
zero, i couldnt even finish it once, i was completely burned out already in act 2.
besides, replay it? what for? i can change class every 5 seconds when i rest.
at least in BG2 each class had their own thing.
>warriors had the de'arnise castle
>druids got the grove
>thiefs got the guild
>mages got the dimention jumping ball
etc etc etc.
i replayed BG2 like 50 times, and i cant even finish BG3 once.
total, absolute dissapointment of a game.
these sad fricks at larian didnt try to make it even a tiny bit different from divinity original sin, they just made DoS3, change the title, and shipped the game.
incompetent c**ts.
I'm waiting for a sale to grab BG3.
Hope Fighter is good, I don't care much for minmaxing or dipping a lot because it breaks immersion, unless multiclassing has some story reason.
Anon, games massively pushed by leftist media are artificially inflated. By a mile.
Are there even games pushed by rightoid medias? Does the right even make games?
They don't need it.
>Hogwarts legacy
>Right wing game
that troony that look like a woman but has a deep vin diesel voice was the funniest fricking shit i saw in gaming in the last 20 years.
if the devs didnt do it for shits and giggles i dunno why else would they do it.
That Black person was unironically the best character, but I played the game in spanish not english, so she didn't speak in ebonics since that doesn't exist in spain.
>generic Bantu accent
>ebonics
This is what childhood buggery by papist priests does to an mf
Do Bongs even have Catholic priests?
Anyway most of the buggery in England happens in Eton College as an initiation rite for the sons of elites
So a justice sends his son to a boarding school to be buggered by e.g. an MPs son, and in turn he will bugger e.g. an Oxford Professors son and so on, if you dont get buggered in childhood you cant advance among the British elites as its a shared tradition
Bantu accent
In spanish she doesn't have any kind of accent, she speaks the same way as any other character, that's why she's the most likable since she has the best story missions.
as per leftists sperging out on Rowling yes, it is a right wing game
Hogwarts legacy has gay shit, Black folk, and powerful women in it thoughbeit. But yea I guess it's right wing because of some culture war nonsense you'll make up
>no, you see hogwarts legacy is actually right wing!
the absolute state of bg3 shitposters
And every single one of the most woke games fail. You've just been here for too long to differentiate leftist propaganda and normal games anymore. You actually thrive on seeing "leftist things" because it means you get to complain, regardless of if it even matters. In BG3 it doesn't even though mentally ill people like to think it does, leftists and rightoids alike. Both parties see shit in there which doesn't really matter but make a huge number about it. Normal people who don't get offended about everything don't care and just play the game for what it is. if it's good it's good, if it's bad it's bad and reasons vary. If you want to roleplay a bearfricker homosexual then go ahead, no one really cares.
>cultist thinks he's in the majority when in reality he's in a vanishingly small minority
Textbook.
How can anyone say BG3 has replayability when finishing it just once feels like torment? By the time I reached third act, I was just begging the game to end because it was so shit.
literally the worst RPG i ever played, i couldnt believe how shit it was.
The game was so shit that when I put it on the floor, my fricking toilet actually walked over and swallowed it before returning to the bathroom. SHIT!
I don't like this game and I think is at the bottom of the barrel of rpgs alongside with numenera and tyranny, but your reply was cringe.
I don't care what a cringe troony moron like you thinks, so see ya.
Is it true that Durge is more interesting if you always resist the "urge" compared to embracing it?
Depends on you. I've beaten the game two times and I'm currently on my third playthrough. The game pretty much has me beat now however. I can't play much now after completing an evil Durge playthrough. Evil playthrough killed my interest in the game. It sucks storywise and has little to no content, so don't bother until they actually add stuff to it. Assuming they will do that anyway. Who knows.
Yes. Evil playthrough as of right now is boring as frick and you miss out on a lot of content. It's so much worse with Tav for obvious reasons. Good Durge's story is too good to pass up. It kills any reason to play as Tav aside from the fact it's a bit tougher to play another class that isn't default, well at least for me anyway. Might not matter to everybody else.
>think about replaying it
>remember act 3
>don't replay it
Only half the players passed act 1.
That means anything after the tutorial.
And considering 95% of the players crossed the tutorial, the drop is absurd.
A lot of people did not enjoy this game.
not surprised considering how boring and overtuned act 1 is compared to other two
I think is more that people felt how much of a drudge it is and simply abandoned ship.
After Larian actually finish this fricking thing I believe the number will go up a bit.
>After Larian actually finish this fricking thing I believe the number will go up a bit.
What do you mean finish? Game is feature complete and finished.
The game is most definitely not finished.
Every single Larian game was like this.
You didn't play their games.
If you want me to believe it, I expect more then a screenshot of some rando's videos.
>ignores one of the biggest Larian shills out there.
Well you have zero counter argument then.
>barely a few spells in the whole game
>its so small and tiny, the 1st act map you can run though in 30 seconds
>not even a night/day cycle, the game is perrma-locked to 12:00
larian released a game that shouldnt even be in an alpha test lmao.
But none of that is true?
everything he said is true.
try to prove him wrong.
>not even dispel magic
>tiny, tiny smol act 1-2-3
>no night cycle, its perma locked to 12:00
I miss Divine Divinities simplicity, should make more games like it
The 2nd playthrough feels like a speedrun.
I convinced the Orthon to kill himself
Now I have to do the Moonrise rescue because I realized you have to do all that first before the Nightsong
this game beats 1/2 for me purely based on encounter design. playing the older games is exhausting because they just throw lazily designed fights at you constantly. 3 by comparison has relatively few but they're actually well designed and usually relevant to the narrative in some way
pretty good
3 playthrus. One learning the game. One where you know everything and challenge yourself. One coop run where you try to frick everyone you haven’t fricked yet for laughs.
I kinda get bored going through the first act again. Trying to make multi-class builds dont usually shine until level 8 or near which is a bit of time to put into. Kinda wish there was some more interesting gear in act 1-2 theres a few but its very little compared to all the cool shit you get at act 3. But by then you nearly beaten the game.
Saying that, I think that could just be a problem with 5e and not bg3 itself when it comes to a more enjoyable character progression with multi-classing and builds.
Frog woman
ribbit
>make an archetypical grim warrior char
>make him a woman
not even a Chud but Americans (and yes its an American game frick off) are fricking moronic
>modern Ganker can't handle a tsundere
pathetic
>muh coom
>frog woman
No thanks, I'll stick with Dragonborn Durge instead. Relationships are overrated.
my evil durge run still romanced lae'zel, she doesn't give a shit about anything you do. I think the only time she even spoke out was when I killed the priestess at last light and only because it caused us to have to fight 400 shadow demons AND everyone who lived there and even then all she said was "what the frick man" and immediately was cool again
Companion reactions can be so moronic in this game lmao
Worth it for Durge
It's conservatively a 70 hour game and I'm replaying it and the experience feels fresh with different choices, so it has great replayability.
depends on what you're getting out of the game
If you like the characters and ME2-style companion system and quests and shit then there's a little replayability in taking other quest routes and romancing other companions, etc.
If you like the actual DnD build system then there's a shitload of replayability, especially given how many and varied magical items are available in the game
>lot of spells
>lot of item interactions
>not forced to do a whole acts worth of content to progress story or get unique items
Honestly rather high. If you know what you want, you can go get it and then try your shit out fairly quick.
Pretty good overall, there a lot of branching ways of handling problems with very different battles. And there's a lot of build variety you can do some fun theme parties
What's the best add after lvl 6 barbarian and lvl 3 thief?
3 fighter would get you champion (more crits) or battlemaster (maneuvers) + action surge.
Was thinking about doing champion
Not sure what I'll do my second run as since barbarian seems to be the most fun class
Dark urge something probably
>go to Goblin camp
>just kill everyone in there one by one
moronic
What I don't understand is why they would hire a dev that only made low tier action games to make a crpg
Yeah, they've never done that twice before.
Hiring somebody to make an action game is a bit different than hiring somebody that only makes janky action games to make a crpg
Not repayable if you have a life.
Game takes well over a hundred hours in a run if you explore everything per map.
It would take you forever to replay it.
Not worth it at all if you have other stuff to play piling up and limited gaming time to work/family...
Game is long as frick doing 100% of the content
Had it since launch and I just got to Act 3 last night and like 80 hours in (at least 10 AFK hours)
Just checked steam and only 38.5% of players have even made it to act 3 lol, wonder how many have actually beat it even once
this achievement is borked, I cleared the game and checked my cheevos earlier and didn't have it. Not that 40% is low or anything to begin with, it's actually pretty high for a Steam game, and a steam game where mods disable achievements at that.
Heard some anon say the completion rate was less than 10% on steam
Is that one also fricked? Probably is if mods disable it since there's so many OCD autistic fricks that simply can't play a game vanilla even on a first run
I MUST MOOOOOOOOD
larian games are ridiculously slow to progress, not just from the combat being slow but the open world they make that's full of actual nothing
I did everything I could first run because replaying did not sound appealing. Had 120 hours on completion, and probably 5 of those were sorting gear and consumables I ended up never using.
Might be worth it to do another run and be a dick at every opportunity but as it stands there are better vidya I could play.
>Game of the year
Half the players haven't even made it to the last act of the game and I'm sure the console ports have an even worse rate of attrition with their zoomer like attention spans
Can someone explain?
>and I'm sure the console ports have an even worse rate of attrition with their zoomer like attention spans
you have it the other way around, PC virgin. Console games have way higher completion rates. Take any two AAA games and compare the ratios and you'll see for yourself.
Sure thing homosexual
Probably takes 30 minutes to do 1 combat encounter on consoles lol
Guarantee those gays dropped it at or before act 1
1. what the other anon said
2. people don't finish their games, players who finish their games are invariably a minority in most games
3. being a GOTY winner isn't really going to alter the above
4. see
"game of the year" isn't an actually award it's a gaming exposition clearly bought by the big names in the industry, namely microsoft and sony. They created game of the year to advertise their products, so game of the year is nothing more than a corporate product. If this corporate exposition is sponsoring BG3, which is unfinished and actual trash, that tells you how much the industry is scraping the bottom of the barrel
>Larian
>big name
TGA is trash indeed, but the voting jury is external. And Larian has no big backers. Sony and Pajeetsoft certainly weren't betting on it or shilling it. In fact, Pajeetsoft couldn't even secure a single award for Turdfield, so that really should tell you how wrong and out of touch your conspiracy theories are, virgin.
>it's not possible that this corporate expo is bought off, it's totally a democratic event by faceless entities
Black person moron
>it's ackshually a big corporate buyoff
>source? it was revealed to me in a dream, you naive, gullible moron, ofcourse it's real
Damn Larian, jumped from 6 million lifetime sales for DOS2, a middling isometric cRPG that was crowdfunded into somehow outplaying the big three in TGA and buying the award from Geoff. What kind of magic is Swen capable of?
>This corporate expo is actually a democratic event by GAMERS!
>also this company that doesn't release sales figures revealed to me how much their games actually sold!
holy schizophrenic Black person
do you never feel a tinge of irony calling others schizophrenic for not taking your conspiracy theories at face value?
What conspiracy? the one you just invented to defend a corporate gaming industry exposition?
>hmmmm I wonder what happened
>could it be getting millions and millions of dollars from China
>naaaaaaah
>hmmm I wonder what happened
>could it be the game is actually successful
>could those steam reviews mean something
>do all these people saying it's fun and good amount to something
>nah, it's just the Chinese
Fricking hell, I'm so glad I don't have an ideological predilection to hate BG3. you people are literally mindbroken.
those steam reviews mean something
You cannot be serious.
>Those are bought too!
Black folk on Ganker would literally believe the earth is flat if round earth had something to do wih BG3's success lol
>if you point out the game awards is a corporate expo you're a shill
bingtrannicus maximus
>is a corporate shill
>is also a BG3 shill
hmm
Do BG3 trannies actually think that goofy cosplay makes that guy look like a chad? It's embarrassing.
Do you think he looked smug like that when he sold 30% of his personal built company to Tencent in order to avoid another bankruptcy?
non-existent.
wouldn't know because I got too bored to even finish act 1.
Reading steam reviews and some of them are on point even if you don't like the gay shit in the game
>No microtransactions
>No in-game purchases
>No paywalls
>No game passes
>No preorder exploitative content
>No internet connection needed to play.
>I like this game because (buzzwords)
>0 talk of gameplay
totally organic
Schizo alert
In case your dumb ass isn't aware like 90% of games have shit like this in them nowadays
>totally ignores that nobody talks about the gameplay and that they like the game because of buzzwords
lol
Play better games.
Jesus, it all makes sense now. BG3gays literally have not played any other video games aside from FotM live service slop. NOW I'm understanding all the praise. Holy shit, you guys don't even know how bad you have it.
Of course it's obvious
>corporate shill
>promotes buzzwords as actual gameplay discussion
He's advocating mindless consumerism of videogames without even once considering if the gameplay is good. Of course BG3 is slop
BG3 is worth 60 dollars and I don't know why you stupid homosexuals are in every thread crying about this game if you hate it so much.
You guys are literally bigger homosexuals than this thing
>If you point out that the game awards is a corporate expo you're a shill
>if you point out all the reviews of BG3 are buzzwords and don't talk about the gameplay you're a shill
>if you talk about the actual gameplay or the company that made it you're a shill
is there anybody that's not a shill?
What's there to talk about regarding gameplay? It's D&D 5th edition with Larian barrelmancy. That's enough to explain the full depth of it to anyone who would care to play the game.
>What's there to talk about regarding gameplay
>if you try to talk about it you're a shill
lol
>make thread discussing game
>get angry when people discuss the game
if you don't like it then go to steam discussions or facebook or some other shithole where criticism is not allowed.
You're literally not discussing the game
You're just crying like a b***h about it which I don't mind but I don't understand since you gays are in every thread about it
I think an anti-elden ring shitposting discord shifted focus to BG3 for some reason. I have made several stealth threads in the past few days that slipped right by them with no shitposting.
>You're literally not discussing the game
I have been, you're the one crying over other people's opinions instead of discussing the game.
But we all know you BG3gays haven't played the game so I don't expect much.
>>No microtransactions
>>No game passes
>>No preorder exploitative content
why are you lying?
None of that is in game content...
>"none of it is in-game"
>"there is zero in-game content behind a paywall"
Again, why are you lying? This information can be found by just going to the store page. Who do you think you're able to fool?
Because you're only technically correct, but all that stuff is irrelevant nonsense.
>there are no microtransactions or preorder bonuses
>OK there are preorder bonuses and deluxe edition shit but none of it is in-game content
>OK OK there are in-game preorder bonuses and paywalled content but uh... I personally consider it irrelevant SO IT DOESN'T COUNT OK IT JUST DOESN'T
I'll ask yet again: WHY are you lying? Nobody is going to think any less of the game because it gives you some silly outfits in an optional deluxe pack. So why are you intentionally lying and saying it doesn't exist?
Could it be that the script you were given says to push the "no microtransactions" angle even if it means making provably false statements?
Because a deluxe edition isn't an MTX.
>Because a deluxe edition isn't an MTX.
>we are selling outfits and dice skins and other shit that cannot be obtained in the game as a separate purchse
>BUT we decided to call it a "deluxe edition" INSTEAD of a "microtransaction"
>so that makes it ok!
Yes.
The chad yes strategy only works when you're taking a controversial yet admirable stance.
There's nothing controversial about putting mtx in your game and then lying about it.
The real chad move would be to say "yes this game has mtx but it's still a masterpiece".
You've already chickened out and lied about it, you can't get that b***h status off you.
A game having a dedicated store for microtransactions and a game having a deluxe edition with some extra cosmetic content are not the same thing.
Dark Souls II's shitty preorder bonuses are not the same as DMC V's shitty ingame store for buying red orbs with real money.
Both suck, but they're not the same thing, moron.
Literally what does any of that have to do with what I've been saying, moron?
I don't give a frick that BG3 has a deluxe edition, nobody does.
What I want to know is why you homosexuals go out of your way to purposefully lie about it in every single thread.
Why do you keep pushing this moronic "IT'S NOT LIKE OTHER VIDEO GAMES" angle when it doesn't do anything unusual for a single-player game and your little corpo spiel is provably false?
You appear to have some kind of mental illness
I apologise for taxing you so.
>can't answer the question
So you get like 6 items if you buy the digital deluxe version?
Do any of them actually do anything or is it just cosmetic? This is grasping hard
>Do any of them actually do anything
You can find better items at the first shop (dwarf druid) iirc. They are just normal non-magic items.
a bunch of potions, some cosmetic gear and a helmet with disguise self
Physical goodies in a deluxe edition isn't any of those things.
>deluxe edition that has an art book and soundtrack
>only thing that it adds to the game is a cosmetic cape and hat
>was given away for free to preorders
wanna try again, virgin?
I love how of all of this list all he could cherrypick is
>it akshually has mtx
and his argument is basically
>look at this digital deluxe edition that has *checks notes* A FRICKING ART BOOK, SOUNDTRACK AND A HAT & CAPE!
BG3 haters always have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find something to force against the game, it's always either something so pathetic and forced like this or some schizophrenic flat earther tier conspiracy theory. Black folk literally turned Ganker into their own digital mental asylum where they cope by building a bubble of delusions to avoid confronting reality.
Reminds me of Saints Row
Now I want a gangster crpg
i wanted it to make a bard but i missed it
Open world gangster game set in a big city sounds like more fun
Frick, bros, we missed out on camp clothing that do jack shit in game
I run around in camp totally naked anyways with my dick swinging around
None.
Uninstalled after I realized that we were capped at level fricking 12
What the FRICK is the point of playing a wizard if I can only be level fricking 12
Frick this fricking game
One level for every homosexual and troony trying to frick the player character each day
Frick BG3 frick this fricking idiotic game
>go rescue the Black person
>go rescue the lesbian angel
>gay gnomes let you know they're really fricking gay
>hi I'm a plot-relevant druid can we have gay bearsex?
>5th ed (really fricking gay)
>wow the enemy is so evil you guise!!1!1!!
>we removed alignment btw
>It turns out I'm a vampire! Wanna have gay sex, <PlayerName>?
>DOWN DOWN DOWN BY THE RIVER X100
frick this fricking dogshit game
>>DOWN DOWN DOWN BY THE RIVER X100
it's insane how they spam that shit when all it does is make you wish you were listening to a better song
Did they not playtest and realize that it is fricking annoying as shit to have some strangled cat in your ear all the time?
That fricking fight in the devil's lair with her and him wailing was the fricking worst shit.
Frick them, I hope they drop dead. Fricking c**ts.
>non-issue
Non-argument.
>how would you XYZ
Dunno mate, how did Baldur's Gate 2 do it?
Go frick yourself, Larian shill. Die.
>how did Baldur's Gate 2 do it?
7th level Abjuration? They didn't
Khelben's Warding Whip
Mantle
Protection from the Elements
Shield of the Archons
GO FRICK YOURSELF
THE SOONER YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE THE BETTER FOR EVERYONE
>Uninstalled after I realized that we were capped at level fricking 12
The tabletop game caps published adventures around that level as well, because campaigns almost never make it past that point and so they realized they couldn't sell books.
That is a non-issue. Plenty of modules run from 1-8 or 1-10. We've been over this, but how would you even incorporate any 7th level Abjuration spells?
The point is that they're not using the game as a platform to continually cause you to pull out your credit card.
>the game isn't literal malware
k
good job guys you really made a video game that functions like a video game instead of a casino
it's still fricking shit
As someone that liked it, non-existent. I 100%'d on a standard good-guy play through. Tried a 2nd run as the dark urge based on the weird astroturfing around here but there was almost no reactivity to my evil actions and a disappointing lack of dedicated unique evil companions. Additionally, the 5E system and balancing means that there's a ton of spell overlap and redundancy between different classes that further reduces how unique an additional playthrough feels.
Do these homies work for Paradox or EA or something?
YOU MUST SPEND 300 DOLLARS TO PLAY THE GAME AS IT'S INTENDED
What? I paid 50 on steam sale
Referring to the gays who are in every BG3 thread crying about it
The game is worth 50 or 60 bucks so I don't know what's getting these guys all fricked up about it
I paid zero for it and I still want my money back.
I had to take a week break after starting the underdark area. finally started my playthrough back up and it's okay but dark urge is clearly written to resist and not give in. you literally cant get away with murdering shadowheart all options are same outcome and you get confronted and forced to savescum a single deception check
also shit like options to kill Isobel have the same exact result no matter what it literally forces a cutscene no matter what
>you literally cant get away with murdering shadowheart all options are same outcome and you get confronted and forced to savescum a single deception check
almost like making an rpg that emphasizes player choice have a plot that revolves around a single character being present is a SHIT idea and yet everyone keeps fricking it up.
no shart died just you literally had more options to get away with murdering a dumbass bard you just met than a extremely important npc that would force all your companions to attack you unless you passed a 21 deception check
like it's a very forced thing and you have only 1 way to get through it
>293 / 37 / 89
Wannabe-oldgay contrarians are still butthurt half a year later KEK
This game really did a number on them.
Eh.
I was absolutely enamored on my first play through. Tried to do a second a few months later and only got halfway through act 1. Maybe when we get a definitive version I'll finish a 2nd
how do you get him off your dick
I only had to tell him to frick off once, but i do understand being annoyed with him being into you. It annoyed me too when I didn't suspect that some innocuous sounding dialog options were really saying "frick me pls"
Leave his ass in that portal on the beach with his homosexual magic tricks
>a nuke goes off later and wipes the party for no apparent reason
>playing a game that kills you if you go off the main path
>playing a game that is sold as an rpg but is made by a company that only makes action games
What? Tell me this doesn't happen
It just works
you WILL have sex with the bear, vamp twink and magical bomb and like it
ngl, kinda wanna sex the old ass elf druid from act 2 but it says you can't romance her
small indie studio please understand
I doesn't. If you never interact with the portal, or walk away from it when Gale asks you to lend him a hand, he'll be gone from the playthrough.
Remember, when browsing BG3 threads, that 99% of """critics""" never played the game.
no. just leave him in the portal or rip off his hands if youre durge and dont want him in your party. if he dies after being rescued he kills the party 3 days later though
>takes your innocence
>steals your artifacts
Nothing personell
I remember his weave homosexual shit in my first partial run which is why I left his gay ass there this time
This homie better not blow me up in Act 3
If you wanna try out each class for a run you could easily do like 3-4 and its a long game so thats a lot of hours.
Durge as full I AM MURDER or trying to be a man fighting against his nature?
0. I never replay games because it is boring to do the same thing twice.
It has no replayability. That's why Tencent is desperately still shilling the worsr crpg ever made after almost a year. Still hasn't made a dime back on its shill campaign.
>minority holdings
this nothingburger again huh
>"I took millions of dollars from these guys and they own a third of my company"
>"but that in no way influences my decision-making in the slightest"
why are you like this?
he's a corporate shill
Baldur's Gate 3 defenders are one of the most dishonest group of creatures that ever used Ganker.
Why are you talking to yourself?
>corporate shill has lost the plot
Don't project your mental state onto others.
>actual schizo posting
the suits aren't sending their best
>everyone who posts a picture is the same person
what mental illness is this called?
>people who hate BG3 are actual unironic schizo maniacs
Shocking
>Ganker seethes about BG3 thread #165239062155809215907326789
ESG shills
Pretty good but it will need a definitive edition to iron out Act 3 mediocre pacing
Finished my first playthrough. 200 hours. Act 3 was a terrible slog and should have had 70% of it cut, and it would have been re-playable for me. As of now, I would MAYBE play it again if I find myself with nothing else to play a few years down the road. Though with heavy modding, especially to the battle system, I could give it another go sooner.
Bad.
>Evil playthroughs are the same as good playthroughs with less content.
>4 player party focus lets you specialize in everything
>combat is dog shit with no simultaneos turns, making it a slog to repeat
Larian makes bad CRPGs for nu-WRPG casuals who want linear movie games like Bioshit.
You're by far the most desperate attention prostitute on this board kek
Game must really suck, bros
>generic turn based action game for braindead morons with one of the largest media shill campaigns ever had some players on steam
and?
>turn based action game
The schizo's completely lost it.
>schizoid non response completely abandoning assertion
I accept your concession
Wasn't BG3 botted to high heavens?
Have they released modding tools yet? I figure there's some things that could do with fixing.
No. Don't those take a year at least if they aren't concurrently developed.
There's already mods for the game (like having more than 3 companions in your party) but I don't think there's an actual kit that's been released
>How would you describe the replayability of Baldur's Gate 3?
It's great if you play on honor mode.
zero
it was boring shit 30 minutes in and I've seen that it only gets worse after Act 1. this was my Dark Urge/genocide attempt, so not a good sign. Outer Worlds made it longer with a similar character, which is terrible. BG3 is basically a 0/10