>Oh you're a NEET lol.
No. I just picked up that Yakuza-series bundle on PC for $30 something a few months ago. If I were a neet I'd be caught up already for the new one that just came out.
>"this system has no worthwhile games!" >anon sends image with 2 dozen good games >"n-nope...all shit, those are all shit games"
you're a true intellect, homosexual.
> Super Mario 64 DS is the 10th best-selling game for the Nintendo DS, having sold 11.06 million copies worldwide. >Super Mario Odyssey was released on October 27, 2017 to acclaim, with praise for its inventiveness, originality, and for improving on concepts introduced in prior Mario games. It has been cited as one of the greatest video games ever made. The game won several awards and has sold 27.65 million copies, making it one of the best-selling Switch games.
that's almost 3x the sales of launch year 3d mario game
3 months ago
Anonymous
Now compare their budgets, ROI, and profit margin adjusted for inflation
Inflation is a coping mechanism and backwards as frick, always favors old shit regardless. Let's instead adjust for "importance". Nintendo was more successful in an era where gaming was the #1 media market while capturing a wider audience of gamers, compared to Wii/DS known for capturing non gamers in an era where gaming wasn't even profiting more than Television and Music. Switch created a consumer draw that is popular and growing. Wii created a consumer draw that died while Wii was still on the market, and objectively hurt them the following gen so you may as well factor in WiiU losses as part of the Wii.
>Income =/= profit with inflation
Fricking moron
Japan has barely had any inflation since the Wii. It's America that has constant inflation. It's not even a factor to Japanese companies.
out of every IP listed there that was dead you chose the ones that came out in current gen. bravo. Also ARMS sold well for a new IP fighting game and Nintendo traded the rights to W101 to Platinum for Astral Chain, so they clearly want it for some reason, neither of them are likely dead.
But where are my hyperrealistic looking shooters and constant pandering to mentally ill axe wound enthusiasts? How am I supposed to reaffirm how mature I am without them???
It's sad to see a lot of these IP are currently dormant and that with the massive increase in resources it takes to make a games and maintain a studio team, we will likely not see many of these returning. The Astral Chain one hurts the most, it looked like the kind of franchise that would two or three entries within the console cycle using the same engine to save on resources. Now it would be more taxing on Platinum to make a new entry for the next console so the likelihood of it returning are low.
They began building a new building in 2022 that'll practically double their capacity. It won't be finished until 2027 but they're definetly looking to expand and increase their output even more for next gen, and I don't see how they could do that without also expanding the IPs they cover.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2022/220412.html
A larger workforce mean they need higher returns for their games. Smaller projects that don't yield big profits are considered risky so many of those smaller franchises will either need to scale up or be let go in favor of more profitable IP.
You know nothing about managing a company. The cost to keep a studio of a hundred + operating every year is staggering, and the manpower needed to build a modern AAA game is large. If you had a team of 100 working on a giant game it would push your staff to the limit and you may even require outside help to complete it. Taking 10 or so workers from that project to work on a smaller game is not only a less feasible way to guarantee revenue, it also puts the larger project at risk by dividing resource.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You know nothing about managing a company
KEK not reading your pseud vlog. Try baiting resetera
3 months ago
Anonymous
I dont know if you're seriously trying to say that focusing all your resources in the one AAA game every 5 years is more sustainable than having a lot of small projects exploring different options.
Because chasing that AAA super hit high that plays it safe and nothing else is what is choking snoy and they keep digging the grave deeper.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm just telling it like how it is seen in business. There are exceptions but for most large companies, they will gravitate towards this business model.
That's one thing I'll give Nintendo credit for, they dont buy up other companies to pad themselves out they are actually expanding their core business.
they purchased Next Level Games, a Canadian studio, but only because several large shareholders were looking to sell. They don't usually buy other developers unless their current working relationship is in jeopardy.
Tetris Attack/Planet Puzzle League in North America. Best puzzle game in their library and they basically haven't made a new one of them in over a decade for some fricking reason.
I mean most of those are either garbage or forgotten shit
but yeah
I agree
can't wait for them to realize the potential of making a PC store and release all their old catalogue (uncensored) on PC
Xbox and PS could've literally had good IP lineup, but they literally killed them as soon PS3 and Xbox 360 was released. And people in management wonder why people aren't buying more Xboxes and PSes
Nintendo is literally gonna outlive with the pathetic competition from those two.
>Xbox and PS could've literally had good IP lineup
They couldn't given that Nintendo's standard for "good IP lineup" is "game heavily marketed to me that I played as a kid so now I have nostalgia for it and buy everything with its logo on the box blindly", you can't buy that kind of brand loyalty in the US, you have to be the first, like Apple
PlayStations executives, at least in the very recent past, just do not give a frick at all about what their previous successes. They are willing to pay no regard to what has built them into their current moment and will eventually pay the price for it. They're about to get mogged by Nintendo. I wonder how much market share the Big N will capture before Sony--the only other console out there now--can stop pretending like they're playing a different game and not just doing everything better. There's no reason for anyone to own a PS5. and I own one.
They were never console-moving franchises. Final Fantasy was Sony's only golden goose IP. PS1 and 2 had some good franchise that sold well but not tendie brainrot loyalty well and almost none of them survived the transition to 7th gen so they have no legacy.
>18th best selling game on the console is a console-mover >7th best selling game on the console is a console-mover
Notice how I didn't list Tekken which sold laps around those franchises. A game can sell well and not be a console mover.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon that 7th best selling game on the PS1 sold as many copies as Ocarina of Time, the 4th best selling N64 game, without needing to be bundled.
Are you trying to tell me OoT wasn't a system-seller and that Nintendo should've abandoned it for only selling as much as the "disappointing" Crash 2?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not a zoomer so I remember the discourse when OOT launched. It came late in the N64's prime and indeed was not a console mover for the time. SM64, Star Fox, and Banjo Kazooie were console movers. They tried to make DK64 a console mover but that flopped. Regardless, as I said originally, sales don't directly correlate with what sells consoles. Gran Turismo was also not a console mover and it was the best selling franchise on the platform.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Banjo Kazooie and Star Fox were system movers with 3.5-4M copies sold >Spyro and Crash weren't with 3.2-7.5M copies sold each
3 months ago
Anonymous
Almost like the N64 and the PS1 were separate systems that had different install bases. They literally released N64 bundles for Star Fox 64 and Banjo Kazooie, zoomer-kun.
PlayStation has no legacy because their leadership doesn't give a frick about it. That's why their game subscription services "classics" section is fricking poverty-tier shit and games streaming off a PS3 in a warehouse somewhere. Even Xbox--a system with way, way, way less of a history--managed to answer the question of "old games" in a satisfying way. They keep mindlessly pushing forward, which is crazy considering their studios can't make a movie game in less than 10 years and the people who own PS5s are still playing the shit they were playing on PS4. This is part of why the Steam Deck is so successful--the breadth of what's available, what you can do on it. and the conventional wisdom would be like "well HOW are they supposed to get the RIGHTS to re-release all of those old games?" but they could and they should. give me games to play. it's year three of the PlayStation 5 and there's nothing there to play that wasn't on PlayStation 4. At least give me a good way to play some even older games for christs sake
>PlayStation has no legacy because their leadership doesn't give a frick about it.
They don't give a frick about it because they weren't the first to the game and have to constantly reinvent themselves in order to compete with Nintendo.
It's the exact same situation as Apple and e.g Samsung, Apple can keep releasing the same shit over and over again year after year and be confident people will buy it because of their brand, Samsung actually has to provide new benefits and features to the customer in order to compete. The reason Crash died on the PS2 was because no one cared for him on the PS2, they cared for Jak, then Jak died in order to become GTA Jak, then GTA Jak was replaced with moviegame Uncharted, Uncharted with TLOU etc.
There is no universe in which Crash survives the PS1 let alone until the PS5 because he didn't have the head start in brand recognition that Mario had.
3 months ago
Anonymous
PlayStation cannot go the Nintendo route but you'd think the alternative would be to actually put out some games of their own, which they do not do. The alternative approach to "having an identity" does not have to be having no identity. It's a little more complicated than "people didn't like Crash on the PS2", because the Crash and Spyro games that came out on the PS2 were fricking poop. PlayStation is interested in making exactly one type of game, and they don't even make a lot of them. Doesn't bode well!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but you'd think the alternative would be to actually put out some games of their own, which they do not do. The alternative approach to "having an identity" does not have to be having no identity
Why bother when you make more money on the COD and GTA MTX storefront fees? Same reason why Steam stopped making games.
3 months ago
Anonymous
this kind of complacent attitude is exactly what has put the games industry in peril at the highest levels. build it and they will come
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Apple can keep releasing the same shit over and over again year after year and be confident people will buy it because of their brand
isn't that exactly what Sony is doing for the PS5? >Samsung actually has to provide new benefits and features to the customer in order to compete.
isn't that exactly what Nintendo is doing for the switch?
>Custom Robo
IM STILL WAITING FOR A NEW GAME HOLY SHIT NINTENDO COME THE FRICK ON. I literally still play on my DS the game that came out in TWO THOUSAND AND SIX YEAR OF OUR LORD. So many good mech games came out since then, but none are the same style as Custom Robo. It's like the smash bros of mech games in my opinion, but with lite rpg elements
ah yes, for a veteran games player such as myself I do prefer a good hallway simulator, coupled with ten to twenty hours of dialogue and cutscenes. When I see the individual strands of hair on my character model, it's how I know for a fact I am playing a sophisticated and well done game.
I look at the peasants who play these games they consider "fun", and I am simply appalled. Fun? You can't even see the individual sweat droplets form on the characters brow, yet they consider it fun. To have such a developed taste such as my own can be a curse at times, but knowing I enjoy only the best games leaves me feeling grateful nonetheless.
>HALF OF ALL GAMERS ARE FEMALE LOOK AT THIS DATA! THAT JUSTIFIES US POZZING THE INDUSTRY AND FORCING UNQUALIFIED WOMEN AND FEMINISTS INTO DEV TEAMS! >according to this tiny curated sample we surveyed, anyway >actual player data is completely different
The bigger question is, do people really fricking care? Third parties, often making the best games, don't seem to. So why should I care as a consumer when most of the library is shit? This is like celebrating the big Mac selling it's 500 millionth "unit". I'd rather buy another deck than waste money dusting off my Switch at this point, and my enthusiasm for the Switch 2 is at an all time low.
Not much to follow up on considering the Switch 2 has no real backing to sacrifice similar to the Wii U.
>Third parties don't care
The Switch has a good amount of third party games, just not from some AAA studios or teams, but who cares. Octopath Traveler, Triangle Strategy, Daemon X Machina, basically anything by NIS or most Atlus games still work well on it since they're not too demanding.
The best games I've played besides Nintendo 1st party have been independent and mid tier publishers putting out AA budget games. Remember Callisto Protocol? Janky PC port and AAA budget, game was a flop. Not interested in AAA 3rd party games from publishers or live service slop.
And most of those AA games don't end up on the Switch or with shitty ports; if you believe that Nintendo first party is anywhere near the epitome of games, you don't fricking play games man.
Whenever I take the bus to get to work i am usually surrounded by the mentally handicapped since there is one of these sheltered workshops on the way. I swear to god they all own a fricking switch and it's like a terrible symphony of bing bing wahoo early in the morning. Thank god i can usually commute by bike
It's literally the only console of it's gen with a double-digit number of worthwhile exclusives, as well as being the most affordable and accessable than any of it's piers.
And to top it all off, people don't play spec sheets, they play games, and Switch has games
Weird that it's selling worse than the 3DS and DS, whole having much less games because of it not holding onto third party exclusives anymore.
I don't see a future where those handhelds will be repeated, the Switch 2 just screams of an exact repeat once again with safe and boring ideas that are forgotten in a week.
I'm at the age where my wife is pestering me about having kids and I would 100% rather buy kids a Switch than a PS5/PC5. Too much degeneracy on those other platforms and if I had a son who turned into a troony I'd be forced to murder/suicide.
The thing people underestimate with fans is promotion. A fan isn't just one sale, fans will shill your shit for free and make fan content (even if nintendo likes cracking down on the latter). A diehard fan is worth a dozen sales.
Just reaching steam numbers. Consoles still trying to catch up kek
https://gitnux.org/steam-player-statistics/#:~:text=As%20of%20August%202021%2C%20there,concurrent%20players%20in%20December%202020.
Everyone else is boring while Nintendo did something kind of different. Remember that PS4 largely impressed by being without competition for 4 years straight.
Nintendo finally beat Sony, and all it took was >3 billion additional people born on the planet >inflation making the console price tag cheap as frick compared to 2 decades ago >sacrificing their lucrative handheld lineup >worse normalgay gimmicks than the Wii >porting and remaking every game they made from the NES to the Wii U >making their most fragile console yet
What will the dusty old PS2 do
Maybe but I doubt this is a concern for the people at Nintendo. They simply want to operate in the black and keep their massive pile of money as a safely net as it keeps them from needing to seek out loans from other entities.
They are sacks of shit who abuse the customer trust at every chance, but they advertise well to kids, the easiest demographic to sell to, and most importantly they are the only console of this entire generation that has games. shitty business practices don't really matter when you offer the product that you sold instead of a worthless 500 dollar box of electonics.
Ganker wouldn't understand this but the Switch brings families together. It's the co-op/4-player stuff or getting a Switch Lite for each of the kids.
Now Nintendo sells a console to each member of the family instead of something like Sony/Xbox where it's the shared console.
>reasonably priced >can be a handheld >broad appeal to adults, kids, families, and even "core gamers" >distinct library of high quality releases that are available nowhere else >constant and successful marketing >easy to carry around or play with your family and friends, easy to show off to people
it was/is a great system. Why do we have this thread multiple times a day every day?
Switch has a reason to be purchased. The three other platforms have basically consolidate their identities with marginal differences in offerings at best.
I'm bowing out of consoole gaming TBQH. I'm happy with the Switch and the PS5 I have is nothing. Next generation I'm going to go with the Steam Deckie 2, Swich 2 and I won't be upgrading from the PS5. Sony has made the interface a fricking commercial nightmare, just distasteful really. The consoles are expensive and they have the nerve to shove all the advertising. Playstation 5 and Xbox consoles have bad advertising in their UI, Steam and Nintendo are exempt.
why would they drop the price when people keep buying the console in huge numbers
they have to be making bank on the consoles, that shit probably costs pennies to build by now
Because they have been around for a long time and have enough senior management and partners around to avoid obvious pitfalls that even their peers fall into. They were sustainable when times were tougher, and just because they have a big success on their hands doesn't mean they change course and chase unrealistic goals or exponential crypto-style moron growth. They believe in supporting their own hardware. I think the next hardware launch is going to put Sony in hot water, because it's just going to build off the massive success of the Switch and there will be years to come where they are selling both Switches and "Switch 2". Mario Kart 8 Deluxe--a seven year old port of a 10 year old Wii U game--sells more copies every quarter than most games ever do.
Meanwhile, what else is going in the world? Only Valve seems to be smart enough to realize that the Switch represents an entirely new form factor for video games, Xbox is essentially leaving the business, and Sony is EXTREMELY fortunate to have had the goodwill and momentum off the PS4 to get the PS5 off the ground, which is pretty much a PS4 with exceptionally good loading times. I can only hope that Nintendo will burn their buns so bad next time around that they'll be forced to do something actually interesting.
That would at least be a step in the right direction. and just in time for them to muddy the waters with their dumb Playstation portal. PSVR2, PlayStation Portal, and now that rock band controller that's for fricking Fortnite Festival? They literally have no idea what is going on.
The Wii U was a total failure but they were still doing more-than-OK with handhelds, the GameCube is more of a meager success but they simply got buttfricked by the PlayStation 2. And more so than any other era, the GameCube was Nintendo's last attempt at "keeping up" with what other people were doing. They know so much more about what works and what doesn't and they always learn their lesson seemingly. Which doesn't mean they'll always win--but their track record is extremely strong. They basically re-invented video games--twice. I don't know how you could look at the Switch and its software library and think like, "ohhh wacky uncle nintedo! sometimes he gets it right!" They are the only company in their space who actually adheres to a belief system that is beneficial for the video gaming world. No chance that any top-level execs at Sony or Xbox know jack shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>They basically re-invented video games--twice.
They didn't do it even once
>I don't know how you could look at the Switch and its software library and think like, "ohhh wacky uncle nintedo! sometimes he gets it right!"
90% ports and a couple of flagship IP rehashes? That flopped on the Wii U?
3 months ago
Anonymous
nice man. keep on keeping on. I had no idea I was talking to someone who is too dumb to wrap their head around the success of the Switch anyway.
>They are the only company in their space who actually adheres to a belief system that is beneficial for the video gaming world.
strange but true. I wasn't a Nintendo kiddie but the Switch was the greatest console of the generation. It might be the greatest console since the PS2 or the 16-bit era. They simply make good fricking games.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>this large soulless corporation is destroying standards in every aspect of the industry
give me an example because it seems like most other studios are having a way harder fall from grace than nintendo is right now, particularly in the west.
I just love exclusives that take 7 years to make but are actually just the previous game repackaged and sold at $70 + DLC with my paid online cheap Chinese stick drift machine stocked entirely with full price ports and remasters
3 months ago
Anonymous
They put out a system that even my grandparents can play, my toddler plays it, my wife plays it, my dad plays it, I play it--and there's a laundry list of great games.
you are RIGHT that they got a lot of juice by porting Wii U games to the Switch. Why the frick wouldn't they? Nobody played that shit on the Wii U. here's some games that aren't ports:
when was the last time a console had more than fricking five worthwhile exclusives? The PS3? The PS2? can't wait for your greentext calling all of this shit though.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>They put out a system that even my grandparents can play, my toddler plays it, my wife plays it, my dad plays it, I play it
Yes they committed the original sin of casualizing video games with the Wii, the industry will never recover
>Why the frick wouldn't they?
They're reheating yesterday's leftovers and selling them for full price while at the same time using that as an excuse to not make anything new
>list
Wii U ports, rehashes, and Pikmin 4
>when was the last time a console had more than fricking five worthwhile exclusives?
Exclusives are shit for the industry
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Exclusives are shit for the industry >game publishers competing is shit for the industry
Is it any coincidence that Sony started to focus a lot less on exclusives and actually making a strong library the moment they realized they could just drop a system with PlayStation in the name and make bank?
It'd be nice to live in a world where companies didn't make games for the purpose of selling you on their ecosystem, but the moment they don't need to do that, they won't bring the same tenacity to game development either.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Next you're going to pretend there's a meaningful difference between publishers making their own exclusives compared to just buying up studios and making them exclusive
3 months ago
Anonymous
>next you're going to tell me that water and air are important things >HUE HUE HUE CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>They are the only company in their space who actually adheres to a belief system that is beneficial for the video gaming world.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The Gamecube represents Nintendo believing if they brought the games then nothing else would matter. As a result it has arguably one of the most important libraries Nintendo ever built, all while still getting fricked. If you made all these games, came last place, then made the Wii and dunked on everyone via a sports game with 5 hours of content, I'd probably also start making moronic decisions that led to the Wii U .
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why is Star Fox Adventures there? It's one of the worst ones.
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe--a seven year old port of a 10 year old Wii U game--sells more copies every quarter than most games ever do.
this is some crazy shit. Only Rockstar's games have legs this long.
The Switch sells well because it double dips into the handheld and home console markets. If the Switch was just a regular handheld without a dock or a home console that wasn't portable it would have much less sales.
Which console is ideal for the person who hates Nintendo, hates switch, hates The PC gaming, hates Nintendo franchises, Hates Steam and wants to be totally anti-Nintendo And Anti-PC in Everything?
anon there's 3 consoles on the market currently, surely you can figure things out for yourself.
>Xbox and PS could've literally had good IP lineup
They couldn't given that Nintendo's standard for "good IP lineup" is "game heavily marketed to me that I played as a kid so now I have nostalgia for it and buy everything with its logo on the box blindly", you can't buy that kind of brand loyalty in the US, you have to be the first, like Apple
i was trying to think if they have any newer IPs that are succesful. Only thing that comes to mind is Splatoon
>https://www.resetera.com/threads/circana-npd-us-sales-december-2023-ps5-1-for-both-nsw-2-for-both-xbs-3-mw3-1-mario-wonder-2-madden-24-3.806754/
The $299 7 year old Nintendo Switch outsold the heavily discounted Xbox $350 Series X and $250 Series X in the final month of 2023. Xbox brand is so pathetic, Jesus Christ.
>this large soulless corporation is destroying standards in every aspect of the industry >this is actually a good thing because.. it just is
You gays would've cheered for the Wii letting normalgays in and permanently destroying the medium
>this large soulless corporation is destroying standards in every aspect of the industry
give me an example because it seems like most other studios are having a way harder fall from grace than nintendo is right now, particularly in the west.
I bought it specifically for the Kirby games. I don't like Nintendo as a company anymore, or their hardware, but Hal hasn't let me down yet. I wish they could just develop games for PC.
homies keep yapping about Nintendo fanboys. Those are a tiny minority. Every Nintendo fanboy worth their salt got a Wii U (myself included), and everyone knows how that ended up. The switch simply has mass appeal.
ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
DOUBLE CHARGING TO USE YOUR OWN INTERNET IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
NOT HAVING AN OPEN SYSTEM TO USE THE PERIPHERALS OR CONTROLLERS OF YOUR CHOICE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
WALLED SOFTWARE GARDENS ARE ANTI CUSTOMER.
NOT BEING ABLE TO MODIFY YOUR OWN DEVICE OR ITS SOFTWARE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
NOT HAVING COMPLETE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
SUING YOUR FAN BASE FOR PIRATING GAMES YOU REFUSE TO MAKE AVAILABLE IS ABSOLUTELY FRICKING EVIL.
hence because of this.
NINTENDO AND ALL OTHER CONSOLES (WITH ONE OR 2 EXCEPTIONS) ARE ALL EVIL AND ANTI CUSTOMER. SUPPORTING NINTENDO IS DOING HARM TO ALL VIDEO GAMES!!!
I agree with all of these except: >NOT HAVING COMPLETE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Manufacturers simply cannot cram every past gens chipset into each of their consoles. Some way to turn an old copy ibto a digital version that works on every console going forward would be a good solution but would be near impossible to do retroactively and doesn't fricking matter now that physical games are kill.
>Manufacturers simply cannot cram every past gens chipset into each of their consoles
They can build emulators for previous consoles that can run on the future hardware, fans do it for free by reverse engineering hardware, should be a breeze with the actual engineers and internal design information.
Emulators, especially the ones on current gen consoles, are not really like replaying your old games but that's less important concern.The biggest problem is reading the old physical media they were on. You can't shrink a disc drive or cartridge reader beyond a certain point and verify an old legit copy retroactively to reward a digital copy is impossible. Nintendo cannot make a system with a NES, SNES, N64, Mini-Disc, Blu-Ray, and SD card reader. Allowing customers to do emulation without telling them to rebuy their old games is the issue.
>an external attachment is equivalent an internal reader >a cable converter is the same form factor of a cartridge reader/disc drive
Stop pretending to be dumb.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, best just rebuy all your old games on the eshop every console
3 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't say I liked or support the current predicament, Spiro gaynew. I am just not a child and can understand the technical hurdles.
I'll bite. First of all you have autism. >ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
I disagree >DOUBLE CHARGING TO USE YOUR OWN INTERNET IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
They aren't charging you to use your own internet. You're charged for using their eco system. >NOT HAVING AN OPEN SYSTEM TO USE THE PERIPHERALS OR CONTROLLERS OF YOUR CHOICE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Good thing all consoles can be cracked >WALLED SOFTWARE GARDENS ARE ANTI CUSTOMER.
I disagree >NOT BEING ABLE TO MODIFY YOUR OWN DEVICE OR ITS SOFTWARE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
You can modify consoles >NOT HAVING COMPLETE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Tell that to valve and microsoft >SUING YOUR FAN BASE FOR PIRATING GAMES YOU REFUSE TO MAKE AVAILABLE IS ABSOLUTELY FRICKING EVIL.
Nope its based as frick >hence because of this. >NINTENDO AND ALL OTHER CONSOLES (WITH ONE OR 2 EXCEPTIONS) ARE ALL EVIL AND ANTI CUSTOMER. SUPPORTING NINTENDO IS DOING HARM TO ALL VIDEO GAMES!!!
PC vegans are worse tbh
>ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Shut the frick up.
I'll bite. First of all you have autism. >ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
I disagree >DOUBLE CHARGING TO USE YOUR OWN INTERNET IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
They aren't charging you to use your own internet. You're charged for using their eco system. >NOT HAVING AN OPEN SYSTEM TO USE THE PERIPHERALS OR CONTROLLERS OF YOUR CHOICE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Good thing all consoles can be cracked >WALLED SOFTWARE GARDENS ARE ANTI CUSTOMER.
I disagree >NOT BEING ABLE TO MODIFY YOUR OWN DEVICE OR ITS SOFTWARE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
You can modify consoles >NOT HAVING COMPLETE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Tell that to valve and microsoft >SUING YOUR FAN BASE FOR PIRATING GAMES YOU REFUSE TO MAKE AVAILABLE IS ABSOLUTELY FRICKING EVIL.
Nope its based as frick >hence because of this. >NINTENDO AND ALL OTHER CONSOLES (WITH ONE OR 2 EXCEPTIONS) ARE ALL EVIL AND ANTI CUSTOMER. SUPPORTING NINTENDO IS DOING HARM TO ALL VIDEO GAMES!!!
PC vegans are worse tbh
>ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Exclusives are the best thing for the industry.
>ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Exclusivity is fine when its the console maker's own games. Third party exclusive games are and will always be bullshit unless the circumstances are very specific.
Next you're going to pretend there's a meaningful difference between publishers making their own exclusives compared to just buying up studios and making them exclusive
I don't even want to sound like a dick but... nintendo apart from software droughts also have hardware droughts. seriously before the Switch when was the last NON moronic nintendo console?
The Nintendo Switch has already cemented its place in history as one of the greatest gaming systems of all time, with one of the best libraries of games ever.
N64 lost to PS1, Wii only succeeded because of retirement homes buying them, the switch is their first console success in a while that succeeded because of it's games. Even if you want to call the portability a "gimmick", it's sure as shit has more longevity than swinging your hand or touching a screen on your controller to impact the television.
Let's be honest here, the Switch is a success because its a handheld, first and for most. The Dock just adds more flexibility(which is also why it became a success).
2/3rd of the industry forgot to aim at children and families but Nintendo didn't. >muh periphery audience
There's a difference between aiming at kids but having an expanded audience and aiming at older audiences and incidentally having children play your game. It's all about a focus demographic.
>2/3rd of the industry forgot to aim at children and families but Nintendo didn't.
GTA and Fortnite are aimed squarely at children, Nintendo audiences are mostly adults and they know it with how much they play into the nostalgia
That's weird.
Weird that you had to specify it like that.
Why couldn't you just say "families" because like middle and working classes have those regardless of skin.
>If a game system has enough games to incentivize gamers to buy, they will buy.
This. Consumers don't care about hardware. They care about games. They go where the games are. And Switch has an astounding lineup of hits you can't play anywhere else.
PlayStation has in a way become the new name brand for videogame consoles. You can buy a PlayStation and it's assured you'll have a powerful machine that has a robust library with shit to play. That kind of security means people just buy PlayStation now because, it's PlayStation, of course it'll be good, they never made a bad system. But as a result Sony is nowhere NEAR as competitive as they were during PS1/PS2 when they actually had to try to earn your purchase. Anyone who actually likes Playstation can admit that they've regressed, and by a lot.
No, the reason people buy playstation is purely because they want to play online skinner boxes and that's the one all their friends are also playing the shitty online skinner boxes on. Sony is the CoD/Apex/Fortnite console now. The consequence of this is that they don't bother making good single player games anymore and third parties also target their console with shitty online games. This is also why Nintendo is untouchable and is still selling 16m consoles in the 7th year. If you want single player games you gotta buy Nintendo, no way around it. PC is dragged down by Sony into the online cancer, although it at least has some great indie games.
>of course it'll be good, they never made a bad system
Every system they've made after PS1 has been terrible. Their hardware sucks. They money hatted 3rd party devs. Their diehard fans exist only in countries where only PS existed. Gamecube and Xbox were better consoles. 360 was better. One X was better. Series X was better.
On past handhelds Nintendo would put all their eggs into the Mario basket, putting less resources into everything else to save money. With the switch they put a ton of resources into other games like Zelda, Smash, Animal Crossing and Luigi's Mansion.
Literally just good games. I remember when the switch was seen as an underdog, since it came out before other consoles of it's generation and was competing with consoles that had been out for years and had bigger libraries and better hardware. And nintendo had fricked up royally with the wii u.
>Literally just good games
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games >wii-u port >tranimal crossing >pokemon >pokemon >pokemon >pokemon >pokemon: genwunner edition >wii sports steering wheel edition >wii sports switch port edition >wii-u port >n64 port >n64 port + gamecube port + wii port >gameboy port
Ain't even gonna take a shot at TOTK but the port shit continues on down the chart.
I did. I was trying to pick the titles even a tendie wouldn't defend. The list shows that slop-binging isn't exclusive to snoys and that other company that used to make consoles.
yes games
only game in that image thats good is dragon quest
A handful of neets didn't stop Zelda from getting 20 million sales.
Then why am I barely playing mine?
Because you spend most of your time here.
Right?
When I'm bored, yeah. Otherwise I've been working on my Yakuza backlog and playing some EDF5 on the side (where the frick is my PC EDF6).
>backlog
Oh you're a NEET lol. Who cares what you do lmao
>Oh you're a NEET lol.
No. I just picked up that Yakuza-series bundle on PC for $30 something a few months ago. If I were a neet I'd be caught up already for the new one that just came out.
This:
Unlike the competition, they do release games on a regular basis. Good games to boot.
no it fricking doesnt
even the ps3 had more noteworthy exclusives
i can hear you crying anon
Aww man I remember playing comfy Snipperclips in bed with my qtpi gf after sweaty frick sessions.
bing bing wahoo shit is irrelevant and every sequel on that list besides splatoon and kirby sucks balls, the new shit too
>"this system has no worthwhile games!"
>anon sends image with 2 dozen good games
>"n-nope...all shit, those are all shit games"
you're a true intellect, homosexual.
Name them
Holy shit I made this image years ago and lost it in a hard-drive crash. Thanks anon, I'll take it from here..
>handheld
>shuts your kids up
>allows for piracy
According to eshop statistics the average Switch user is in between 20 and 40.
They sacrificed their entire handheld lineup for it
The DS probably made them more money than the Switch, and they also had the Wii on top of that
I doubt the DS made them more money. switch games are full price and they even have DLC for some of them
The DS was cheap as frick to make and develop for
Meaningless given the rate of inflation
No, their profits are higher in the switch era and have been for years now. They just hit their stock all time high like a month ago
>The DS probably made them more money than the Switch
lolno, switch games outsell ds games by 10x
Nah
>Switch Software:1,200 million units
>DS Software: 948 million units
not by 10 times, just 300 million more
You have to be purposefully acting dumb to think those are relevant statistics to this argument
shall be compare franchises to each other?
> Super Mario 64 DS is the 10th best-selling game for the Nintendo DS, having sold 11.06 million copies worldwide.
>Super Mario Odyssey was released on October 27, 2017 to acclaim, with praise for its inventiveness, originality, and for improving on concepts introduced in prior Mario games. It has been cited as one of the greatest video games ever made. The game won several awards and has sold 27.65 million copies, making it one of the best-selling Switch games.
that's almost 3x the sales of launch year 3d mario game
Now compare their budgets, ROI, and profit margin adjusted for inflation
>nope nuh uh no way you're wrong because I'm right
jesus christ dude
DS games cost way less to make
Not if you're The Pokemon Company
>The DS probably made them more money than the Switch, and they also had the Wii on top of that
Switch topped Wii and DS combined
This is the most profitable period, especially taking inflation into account.
No the Switch era was. It literally set the record for highest operating income in a year for console brands.
Income =/= profit with inflation
Inflation is a coping mechanism and backwards as frick, always favors old shit regardless. Let's instead adjust for "importance". Nintendo was more successful in an era where gaming was the #1 media market while capturing a wider audience of gamers, compared to Wii/DS known for capturing non gamers in an era where gaming wasn't even profiting more than Television and Music. Switch created a consumer draw that is popular and growing. Wii created a consumer draw that died while Wii was still on the market, and objectively hurt them the following gen so you may as well factor in WiiU losses as part of the Wii.
>Income =/= profit with inflation
Fricking moron
Japan has barely had any inflation since the Wii. It's America that has constant inflation. It's not even a factor to Japanese companies.
and DS have Download Play, it's nice feature for share your game with other people with only one gamecart.
they have the best lineup of IP in the industry and it's not close.
Famicom Club is missing
Mario Zelda Pokemon all good, the rest are literally whos
by having good and fun games.
based westoid taste
moronic zoomer.
*minus pokémon
...Metroid?
is in the second row
yeah, but where's the fricking metroid game?
there's 2 out on Switch right now Anon, and at least 1 more on the way.
how long have you been in a coma for?
dear reggin,
kys
what's a reggin?
is it like a toggaf?
>all those literal who and dead IPs
lmao
You already replied to that post.
You remembered Starfy!
where the frick is the punch out!! wii game???
sucks that the best game in the series is stuck
You really had to pad it out with dead IPs like Astral Chain and Arms?
out of every IP listed there that was dead you chose the ones that came out in current gen. bravo. Also ARMS sold well for a new IP fighting game and Nintendo traded the rights to W101 to Platinum for Astral Chain, so they clearly want it for some reason, neither of them are likely dead.
Even Steel Diver and 1-2 Switch got sequels. Being an Arms fan is suffering
Those are at least recent, why is shit like sin and punishment and golden sun on there?
Where did they go
But where are my hyperrealistic looking shooters and constant pandering to mentally ill axe wound enthusiasts? How am I supposed to reaffirm how mature I am without them???
It's sad to see a lot of these IP are currently dormant and that with the massive increase in resources it takes to make a games and maintain a studio team, we will likely not see many of these returning. The Astral Chain one hurts the most, it looked like the kind of franchise that would two or three entries within the console cycle using the same engine to save on resources. Now it would be more taxing on Platinum to make a new entry for the next console so the likelihood of it returning are low.
Nintendo is creating their own internal team for Astral Chain
Didn't they get the rights to Astral Chain cause Kamiya wanted full ownership of Wonderful 101 so it could go multiplat?
Yes
They began building a new building in 2022 that'll practically double their capacity. It won't be finished until 2027 but they're definetly looking to expand and increase their output even more for next gen, and I don't see how they could do that without also expanding the IPs they cover.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2022/220412.html
>5 billion yen
oh, i thought it was in dollars. so it was just 39 million? i feel like they could pay a little more to speed things up
A larger workforce mean they need higher returns for their games. Smaller projects that don't yield big profits are considered risky so many of those smaller franchises will either need to scale up or be let go in favor of more profitable IP.
or tons of small teams cranking out smaller games
Basically how it was during Rare's golden years on the N64. Four separate teams all doing their own thing in a bubble for the most part.
That was when you could do it and those games would still be considered in the same league as your Banjo's and Zeldas
>Smaller projects
>are considered risky
>scale them up for less risk
Lmao. Lol. Ok Jim Ryan.
You know nothing about managing a company. The cost to keep a studio of a hundred + operating every year is staggering, and the manpower needed to build a modern AAA game is large. If you had a team of 100 working on a giant game it would push your staff to the limit and you may even require outside help to complete it. Taking 10 or so workers from that project to work on a smaller game is not only a less feasible way to guarantee revenue, it also puts the larger project at risk by dividing resource.
>You know nothing about managing a company
KEK not reading your pseud vlog. Try baiting resetera
I dont know if you're seriously trying to say that focusing all your resources in the one AAA game every 5 years is more sustainable than having a lot of small projects exploring different options.
Because chasing that AAA super hit high that plays it safe and nothing else is what is choking snoy and they keep digging the grave deeper.
I'm just telling it like how it is seen in business. There are exceptions but for most large companies, they will gravitate towards this business model.
That's one thing I'll give Nintendo credit for, they dont buy up other companies to pad themselves out they are actually expanding their core business.
Didn't Nintendo just buy out two dev studios a couple years ago?
They bought Next Level Games after its owners sold their shares to Nintendo, was there another one they acquired too?
I think he's talking about Nintendo Pictures. Nintendo bought a studio recently, not a big studio, just the one that made those pikmin short movies.
oh right I forgot about that, wonder what the hell "Nintendo Pictures" will be used for.
maybe intro movies for their games
or a full blown animated movie
they purchased Next Level Games, a Canadian studio, but only because several large shareholders were looking to sell. They don't usually buy other developers unless their current working relationship is in jeopardy.
>nintendo destroyed a disaster prevention centre to build their shitty bing bing wahoo house
Well they'll have their work cut out for them porting every Switch title to the Switch 2 at $70 each, including the Switch ports
>paneldepon
literally who?
Tetris Attack/Planet Puzzle League in North America. Best puzzle game in their library and they basically haven't made a new one of them in over a decade for some fricking reason.
I mean most of those are either garbage or forgotten shit
but yeah
I agree
can't wait for them to realize the potential of making a PC store and release all their old catalogue (uncensored) on PC
Literally this, no contest.
Xbox and PS could've literally had good IP lineup, but they literally killed them as soon PS3 and Xbox 360 was released. And people in management wonder why people aren't buying more Xboxes and PSes
Nintendo is literally gonna outlive with the pathetic competition from those two.
>literally
>literally
>literally
>literally
>Xbox and PS could've literally had good IP lineup
They couldn't given that Nintendo's standard for "good IP lineup" is "game heavily marketed to me that I played as a kid so now I have nostalgia for it and buy everything with its logo on the box blindly", you can't buy that kind of brand loyalty in the US, you have to be the first, like Apple
You actually can buy that loyalty just if you piss it away you can't fix the problem with money. Xbox had that with Halo.
You can piss it away, but you can't buy it
still don't get how PlayStation fumbled Crash & Spyro.
PlayStations executives, at least in the very recent past, just do not give a frick at all about what their previous successes. They are willing to pay no regard to what has built them into their current moment and will eventually pay the price for it. They're about to get mogged by Nintendo. I wonder how much market share the Big N will capture before Sony--the only other console out there now--can stop pretending like they're playing a different game and not just doing everything better. There's no reason for anyone to own a PS5. and I own one.
They were never console-moving franchises. Final Fantasy was Sony's only golden goose IP. PS1 and 2 had some good franchise that sold well but not tendie brainrot loyalty well and almost none of them survived the transition to 7th gen so they have no legacy.
>They were never console-moving franchises
Bruh
>18th best selling game on the console is a console-mover
>7th best selling game on the console is a console-mover
Notice how I didn't list Tekken which sold laps around those franchises. A game can sell well and not be a console mover.
Anon that 7th best selling game on the PS1 sold as many copies as Ocarina of Time, the 4th best selling N64 game, without needing to be bundled.
Are you trying to tell me OoT wasn't a system-seller and that Nintendo should've abandoned it for only selling as much as the "disappointing" Crash 2?
I'm not a zoomer so I remember the discourse when OOT launched. It came late in the N64's prime and indeed was not a console mover for the time. SM64, Star Fox, and Banjo Kazooie were console movers. They tried to make DK64 a console mover but that flopped. Regardless, as I said originally, sales don't directly correlate with what sells consoles. Gran Turismo was also not a console mover and it was the best selling franchise on the platform.
>Banjo Kazooie and Star Fox were system movers with 3.5-4M copies sold
>Spyro and Crash weren't with 3.2-7.5M copies sold each
Almost like the N64 and the PS1 were separate systems that had different install bases. They literally released N64 bundles for Star Fox 64 and Banjo Kazooie, zoomer-kun.
PlayStation has no legacy because their leadership doesn't give a frick about it. That's why their game subscription services "classics" section is fricking poverty-tier shit and games streaming off a PS3 in a warehouse somewhere. Even Xbox--a system with way, way, way less of a history--managed to answer the question of "old games" in a satisfying way. They keep mindlessly pushing forward, which is crazy considering their studios can't make a movie game in less than 10 years and the people who own PS5s are still playing the shit they were playing on PS4. This is part of why the Steam Deck is so successful--the breadth of what's available, what you can do on it. and the conventional wisdom would be like "well HOW are they supposed to get the RIGHTS to re-release all of those old games?" but they could and they should. give me games to play. it's year three of the PlayStation 5 and there's nothing there to play that wasn't on PlayStation 4. At least give me a good way to play some even older games for christs sake
>PlayStation has no legacy because their leadership doesn't give a frick about it.
They don't give a frick about it because they weren't the first to the game and have to constantly reinvent themselves in order to compete with Nintendo.
It's the exact same situation as Apple and e.g Samsung, Apple can keep releasing the same shit over and over again year after year and be confident people will buy it because of their brand, Samsung actually has to provide new benefits and features to the customer in order to compete. The reason Crash died on the PS2 was because no one cared for him on the PS2, they cared for Jak, then Jak died in order to become GTA Jak, then GTA Jak was replaced with moviegame Uncharted, Uncharted with TLOU etc.
There is no universe in which Crash survives the PS1 let alone until the PS5 because he didn't have the head start in brand recognition that Mario had.
PlayStation cannot go the Nintendo route but you'd think the alternative would be to actually put out some games of their own, which they do not do. The alternative approach to "having an identity" does not have to be having no identity. It's a little more complicated than "people didn't like Crash on the PS2", because the Crash and Spyro games that came out on the PS2 were fricking poop. PlayStation is interested in making exactly one type of game, and they don't even make a lot of them. Doesn't bode well!
>but you'd think the alternative would be to actually put out some games of their own, which they do not do. The alternative approach to "having an identity" does not have to be having no identity
Why bother when you make more money on the COD and GTA MTX storefront fees? Same reason why Steam stopped making games.
this kind of complacent attitude is exactly what has put the games industry in peril at the highest levels. build it and they will come
>Apple can keep releasing the same shit over and over again year after year and be confident people will buy it because of their brand
isn't that exactly what Sony is doing for the PS5?
>Samsung actually has to provide new benefits and features to the customer in order to compete.
isn't that exactly what Nintendo is doing for the switch?
No.
Did Crash 4 sell well? I know he's no longer PlayStation I'm just curious.
Dude these games are shit worth $20 at best
anon these aren't even games they're IP.
>worth $20 at best
whatever helps you sleep at night
>Custom Robo
IM STILL WAITING FOR A NEW GAME HOLY SHIT NINTENDO COME THE FRICK ON. I literally still play on my DS the game that came out in TWO THOUSAND AND SIX YEAR OF OUR LORD. So many good mech games came out since then, but none are the same style as Custom Robo. It's like the smash bros of mech games in my opinion, but with lite rpg elements
>Custom Robo
>F-Zero
>Advance Wars
God fricking why not how hard can it be? F-Zero 99 proved that you can make a balanced fun online multiplayer F-Zero.
Most of these just aren't good if you have developed taste.
>Most of these just aren't good if you have developed taste.
lel
Oh no, Edge Magazine, that place I get my opinions from!
Fricking hell shut up.
>Ganker troon thinks his shitposts are more important than EDGE magazine
Top kek
>brand loyalist exposes himself as a brand bootlicker
pottery
loyalist exposes himself as a brand bootlicker
I didn't see that happen
I value my own opinions over those of a media outlet. If you don't then I don't know what to tell you.
ah yes, for a veteran games player such as myself I do prefer a good hallway simulator, coupled with ten to twenty hours of dialogue and cutscenes. When I see the individual strands of hair on my character model, it's how I know for a fact I am playing a sophisticated and well done game.
I look at the peasants who play these games they consider "fun", and I am simply appalled. Fun? You can't even see the individual sweat droplets form on the characters brow, yet they consider it fun. To have such a developed taste such as my own can be a curse at times, but knowing I enjoy only the best games leaves me feeling grateful nonetheless.
all those games are for children
the absolute state of tendies
Mario Kart
Smash
Pokemon
Animal Crossing
Children, women playing animal crossing and no lifers in the US
Why are you taking pictures of random little girls in public?
this, it's like bragging lots of people play candycrush
>"""""""""""""Female"""""""""""""
aren't troons >1% of the world's population?
trannies are not women tho
Mom buys console so guess who owns it according to survey data
Why would moms be answering the survey dumbass
This is new cope variety. Hey Jamie, pull up the "are also subscribed to" subreddits for /r/zelda, /r/animalcrossing, & /r/nintendo
I don't believe that for a second.
yeah it DOES turn out that moms do the christmas shopping. myth busted!
>HALF OF ALL GAMERS ARE FEMALE LOOK AT THIS DATA! THAT JUSTIFIES US POZZING THE INDUSTRY AND FORCING UNQUALIFIED WOMEN AND FEMINISTS INTO DEV TEAMS!
>according to this tiny curated sample we surveyed, anyway
>actual player data is completely different
You can cite all the surveys you want but anyone can talk to women they know and figure out it's bullshit.
>but anyone can talk to women
NINTENDO SWITCH HAS GAMES
The bigger question is, do people really fricking care? Third parties, often making the best games, don't seem to. So why should I care as a consumer when most of the library is shit? This is like celebrating the big Mac selling it's 500 millionth "unit". I'd rather buy another deck than waste money dusting off my Switch at this point, and my enthusiasm for the Switch 2 is at an all time low.
Not much to follow up on considering the Switch 2 has no real backing to sacrifice similar to the Wii U.
>Third parties, often making the best games
LMAO
Yes? Most people don't live in your remedial bubble, you are bragging about being part of a children seating area.
How sad.
Whats wrong with my factual statements exactly?
I can't think of a single reason why the Switch even exists, it's legacy is fricking nothing but mediocrity.
What about it? It's a better portable alternative at a much less cost with more and better games.
Why did you even buy it if you're not crazy about buying 20 mario and pokemon games? These games dominate Switch sales
Not him, but it was literally the only handheld at the time. Now that there are other options I haven't touched my switch in 2 years.
Here's what I play on mine
>Mario Kart
>Splatoon
>Monster Hunter
>Smash
>Taiko no Tatsujin
>Rocket League
>Tetris 99
What more does a man need?
>What more does a man need?
Taste
What trash are you playing that's better than Monster Hunter and Splatoon? Let me guess 8 different dark souls clones and GTA
I put away my childish things.
As an EDF fan, I don't associate with this pretentious homosexual
As an EDF fan, I'm sorry we didn't keep you at the gate.
>pic
that you irl? Obnoxious little gay.
It is. I get followed by Smash players all day.
>Third parties don't care
The Switch has a good amount of third party games, just not from some AAA studios or teams, but who cares. Octopath Traveler, Triangle Strategy, Daemon X Machina, basically anything by NIS or most Atlus games still work well on it since they're not too demanding.
you're either an invertbrain or b8ing, but it's telling that Ganker is full of such lobotomites now that I can't tell which one.
>deck
Always outing yourself.
The best games I've played besides Nintendo 1st party have been independent and mid tier publishers putting out AA budget games. Remember Callisto Protocol? Janky PC port and AAA budget, game was a flop. Not interested in AAA 3rd party games from publishers or live service slop.
And most of those AA games don't end up on the Switch or with shitty ports; if you believe that Nintendo first party is anywhere near the epitome of games, you don't fricking play games man.
Piracy won
Its marketed to parents and children.
Whenever I take the bus to get to work i am usually surrounded by the mentally handicapped since there is one of these sheltered workshops on the way. I swear to god they all own a fricking switch and it's like a terrible symphony of bing bing wahoo early in the morning. Thank god i can usually commute by bike
Anon, please, we've run out of things to say at this point.
This is a list of the best selling video games of all time in Japan
Nintendo is dwarfing their DS sales numbers
Two nukes wasn't enough.
it's cheaper than ps5 and series x and it has some games to play
Is Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth on it?
remember when that meant something?
Yeah before they gave it to Tears of the Kingdom
>remember when
>you mean last year right?
no anon i was thinking of Vagrant Story
it never did
is it selling well?
By not being snoy and making the same ubishit game wan mirrion times
They made the same bing bing wahoo wan mirrion times instead
And yet they sold way more than PS5 can ever hope.
>muh babby game
Babby game beat PS5. What's your excuse
It's literally the only console of it's gen with a double-digit number of worthwhile exclusives, as well as being the most affordable and accessable than any of it's piers.
And to top it all off, people don't play spec sheets, they play games, and Switch has games
Unfortunate that most of the exclusives fricking suck for anyone over the age of 13.
Gaystation Poo bros...
It's not looking good...
They combined the handheld and console market into one purchase.
That's it.
Kinda funny because they pretty much just copied the PSP Go.
Weird that it's selling worse than the 3DS and DS, whole having much less games because of it not holding onto third party exclusives anymore.
I don't see a future where those handhelds will be repeated, the Switch 2 just screams of an exact repeat once again with safe and boring ideas that are forgotten in a week.
I'm at the age where my wife is pestering me about having kids and I would 100% rather buy kids a Switch than a PS5/PC5. Too much degeneracy on those other platforms and if I had a son who turned into a troony I'd be forced to murder/suicide.
UUUUUUUHHHH SONYSISTERS???????
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MR HULST DO SOMETHING!!!
1. Loyal Nintendo fans
2. People like playing games on a handheld.
3. Good exclusives
4. Good Games from third parties
At best there are 13 million loyal nintendo fans.
The thing people underestimate with fans is promotion. A fan isn't just one sale, fans will shill your shit for free and make fan content (even if nintendo likes cracking down on the latter). A diehard fan is worth a dozen sales.
Just reaching steam numbers. Consoles still trying to catch up kek
https://gitnux.org/steam-player-statistics/#:~:text=As%20of%20August%202021%2C%20there,concurrent%20players%20in%20December%202020.
Still pretty funny that people thought this would be a major failure and the end of nintendo consoles.
I dont have a Switch, but Im gonna buy a Switch 2 at launch in the hopes it gets hacked. Just leave it in its box until it does.
Everyone else is boring while Nintendo did something kind of different. Remember that PS4 largely impressed by being without competition for 4 years straight.
What was different about a shitty portable with controllers that break easily? The PSP had video out already.
games
Do you think the Switch will beat the PS2?
Nintendo finally beat Sony, and all it took was
>3 billion additional people born on the planet
>inflation making the console price tag cheap as frick compared to 2 decades ago
>sacrificing their lucrative handheld lineup
>worse normalgay gimmicks than the Wii
>porting and remaking every game they made from the NES to the Wii U
>making their most fragile console yet
What will the dusty old PS2 do
you forgot covid boost.
Nice cope
so whats stopping Sony from outselling PS2 themselves?
They're a shadow of their former selves
what gimmicks? Portability isn't a gimmick it's a feature.
Maybe but I doubt this is a concern for the people at Nintendo. They simply want to operate in the black and keep their massive pile of money as a safely net as it keeps them from needing to seek out loans from other entities.
They are sacks of shit who abuse the customer trust at every chance, but they advertise well to kids, the easiest demographic to sell to, and most importantly they are the only console of this entire generation that has games. shitty business practices don't really matter when you offer the product that you sold instead of a worthless 500 dollar box of electonics.
all it took was one console generation focused on waifus and they won..
Kirby added a furry cat boss
Ganker wouldn't understand this but the Switch brings families together. It's the co-op/4-player stuff or getting a Switch Lite for each of the kids.
Now Nintendo sells a console to each member of the family instead of something like Sony/Xbox where it's the shared console.
Cant believe its still selling so well, last few months have been really dry. Also, the amount of showelware being released on it rivals even steam
>pikmin 4
>Mario Wonder
>SMRPG
not bad for me
More of the planet's population can afford consoles. Same reason movies 'break records' every year.
looking forward to seeing the PS5 make these easy to obtain numbers
PlayStation is even worse than Nintendo.
>122 million
>In a year
Steam got that many in a month four years ago
>Exclusives out the ASS
Shrimple as
>How'd this happen
video games instead of shallow interactive TV shows
SpiderMan 2 dev sisters...
Halo series bros...
Hideo troonyjima movie hacks...
atleast Kojimbo is actually making a movie now
>reasonably priced
>can be a handheld
>broad appeal to adults, kids, families, and even "core gamers"
>distinct library of high quality releases that are available nowhere else
>constant and successful marketing
>easy to carry around or play with your family and friends, easy to show off to people
it was/is a great system. Why do we have this thread multiple times a day every day?
The Switch actually has games. No other console on the market is worth getting if they don't have exclusives.
Switch has a reason to be purchased. The three other platforms have basically consolidate their identities with marginal differences in offerings at best.
I'm bowing out of consoole gaming TBQH. I'm happy with the Switch and the PS5 I have is nothing. Next generation I'm going to go with the Steam Deckie 2, Swich 2 and I won't be upgrading from the PS5. Sony has made the interface a fricking commercial nightmare, just distasteful really. The consoles are expensive and they have the nerve to shove all the advertising. Playstation 5 and Xbox consoles have bad advertising in their UI, Steam and Nintendo are exempt.
Good games that people are willing to pay full price for.
>Tendies said it would reach 140 2 years ago
>Has yet to reach it
The Ps2 won't get outselled.
The Switch has never gotten a price drop, the PS2 was sold as low as $150 and then $99 before it was removed off shelves.
>The Switch has never gotten a price drop
Why are Nintendo such israelites?
why would they drop the price when people keep buying the console in huge numbers
they have to be making bank on the consoles, that shit probably costs pennies to build by now
Given the build quality and reliability it has to be even lower than that
bc you'll pay for it.
Because they have been around for a long time and have enough senior management and partners around to avoid obvious pitfalls that even their peers fall into. They were sustainable when times were tougher, and just because they have a big success on their hands doesn't mean they change course and chase unrealistic goals or exponential crypto-style moron growth. They believe in supporting their own hardware. I think the next hardware launch is going to put Sony in hot water, because it's just going to build off the massive success of the Switch and there will be years to come where they are selling both Switches and "Switch 2". Mario Kart 8 Deluxe--a seven year old port of a 10 year old Wii U game--sells more copies every quarter than most games ever do.
Meanwhile, what else is going in the world? Only Valve seems to be smart enough to realize that the Switch represents an entirely new form factor for video games, Xbox is essentially leaving the business, and Sony is EXTREMELY fortunate to have had the goodwill and momentum off the PS4 to get the PS5 off the ground, which is pretty much a PS4 with exceptionally good loading times. I can only hope that Nintendo will burn their buns so bad next time around that they'll be forced to do something actually interesting.
there's rumors that sony is making a portable console (an actual console, not the portal) that plays home console games.
That would at least be a step in the right direction. and just in time for them to muddy the waters with their dumb Playstation portal. PSVR2, PlayStation Portal, and now that rock band controller that's for fricking Fortnite Festival? They literally have no idea what is going on.
lol anon your entire tirade is undone by the existence of the Gamecube and the Wii U
Nintendo has a strong brand and rolls the dice well sometimes, that's all there is to it
The Wii U was a total failure but they were still doing more-than-OK with handhelds, the GameCube is more of a meager success but they simply got buttfricked by the PlayStation 2. And more so than any other era, the GameCube was Nintendo's last attempt at "keeping up" with what other people were doing. They know so much more about what works and what doesn't and they always learn their lesson seemingly. Which doesn't mean they'll always win--but their track record is extremely strong. They basically re-invented video games--twice. I don't know how you could look at the Switch and its software library and think like, "ohhh wacky uncle nintedo! sometimes he gets it right!" They are the only company in their space who actually adheres to a belief system that is beneficial for the video gaming world. No chance that any top-level execs at Sony or Xbox know jack shit.
>They basically re-invented video games--twice.
They didn't do it even once
>I don't know how you could look at the Switch and its software library and think like, "ohhh wacky uncle nintedo! sometimes he gets it right!"
90% ports and a couple of flagship IP rehashes? That flopped on the Wii U?
nice man. keep on keeping on. I had no idea I was talking to someone who is too dumb to wrap their head around the success of the Switch anyway.
strange but true. I wasn't a Nintendo kiddie but the Switch was the greatest console of the generation. It might be the greatest console since the PS2 or the 16-bit era. They simply make good fricking games.
I just love exclusives that take 7 years to make but are actually just the previous game repackaged and sold at $70 + DLC with my paid online cheap Chinese stick drift machine stocked entirely with full price ports and remasters
They put out a system that even my grandparents can play, my toddler plays it, my wife plays it, my dad plays it, I play it--and there's a laundry list of great games.
you are RIGHT that they got a lot of juice by porting Wii U games to the Switch. Why the frick wouldn't they? Nobody played that shit on the Wii U. here's some games that aren't ports:
>mario odyssey
>mario wonder
>botw
>totk
>pikmin 4
>metroid dread
>kirby
>animal crossing NH
>Astral Chain
>Bayo 3
>luigis mansion 3
>paper mario
when was the last time a console had more than fricking five worthwhile exclusives? The PS3? The PS2? can't wait for your greentext calling all of this shit though.
>They put out a system that even my grandparents can play, my toddler plays it, my wife plays it, my dad plays it, I play it
Yes they committed the original sin of casualizing video games with the Wii, the industry will never recover
>Why the frick wouldn't they?
They're reheating yesterday's leftovers and selling them for full price while at the same time using that as an excuse to not make anything new
>list
Wii U ports, rehashes, and Pikmin 4
>when was the last time a console had more than fricking five worthwhile exclusives?
Exclusives are shit for the industry
>Exclusives are shit for the industry
>game publishers competing is shit for the industry
Is it any coincidence that Sony started to focus a lot less on exclusives and actually making a strong library the moment they realized they could just drop a system with PlayStation in the name and make bank?
It'd be nice to live in a world where companies didn't make games for the purpose of selling you on their ecosystem, but the moment they don't need to do that, they won't bring the same tenacity to game development either.
Next you're going to pretend there's a meaningful difference between publishers making their own exclusives compared to just buying up studios and making them exclusive
>next you're going to tell me that water and air are important things
>HUE HUE HUE CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!
>They are the only company in their space who actually adheres to a belief system that is beneficial for the video gaming world.
The Gamecube represents Nintendo believing if they brought the games then nothing else would matter. As a result it has arguably one of the most important libraries Nintendo ever built, all while still getting fricked. If you made all these games, came last place, then made the Wii and dunked on everyone via a sports game with 5 hours of content, I'd probably also start making moronic decisions that led to the Wii U .
Why is Star Fox Adventures there? It's one of the worst ones.
>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe--a seven year old port of a 10 year old Wii U game--sells more copies every quarter than most games ever do.
this is some crazy shit. Only Rockstar's games have legs this long.
Anon the N64, gamecube and especially the wii u were colossal frickups. You can't talk about nintendo's wise stable ways when those exist.
turns out that all you gotta do is put GAMES on a GAMING console and lots of people will buy it
Why did they put PORTS on the PORTABLE machine though
The Switch sells well because it double dips into the handheld and home console markets. If the Switch was just a regular handheld without a dock or a home console that wasn't portable it would have much less sales.
>if it was a worse product it would have less sales
wow anon thanks for the insight!!
Which console is ideal for the person who hates Nintendo, hates switch, hates The PC gaming, hates Nintendo franchises, Hates Steam and wants to be totally anti-Nintendo And Anti-PC in Everything?
atari jaguar
that is a retro console.
And any current console that fits what I'm looking for and need?
anon there's 3 consoles on the market currently, surely you can figure things out for yourself.
i was trying to think if they have any newer IPs that are succesful. Only thing that comes to mind is Splatoon
The Fit games are nintendo's newest successful IP. Make of that what you will.
ARMS has sold over 2.7 million. It's not a Splatoon but for a new IP fighting game that's not bad at all.
The Soulja Boy
>https://www.resetera.com/threads/circana-npd-us-sales-december-2023-ps5-1-for-both-nsw-2-for-both-xbs-3-mw3-1-mario-wonder-2-madden-24-3.806754/
The $299 7 year old Nintendo Switch outsold the heavily discounted Xbox $350 Series X and $250 Series X in the final month of 2023. Xbox brand is so pathetic, Jesus Christ.
the success of this console is the single largest reaming this board has ever taken
Why is that?
>this large soulless corporation is destroying standards in every aspect of the industry
>this is actually a good thing because.. it just is
You gays would've cheered for the Wii letting normalgays in and permanently destroying the medium
>this large soulless corporation is destroying standards in every aspect of the industry
give me an example because it seems like most other studios are having a way harder fall from grace than nintendo is right now, particularly in the west.
I bought it specifically for the Kirby games. I don't like Nintendo as a company anymore, or their hardware, but Hal hasn't let me down yet. I wish they could just develop games for PC.
homies keep yapping about Nintendo fanboys. Those are a tiny minority. Every Nintendo fanboy worth their salt got a Wii U (myself included), and everyone knows how that ended up. The switch simply has mass appeal.
ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
DOUBLE CHARGING TO USE YOUR OWN INTERNET IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
NOT HAVING AN OPEN SYSTEM TO USE THE PERIPHERALS OR CONTROLLERS OF YOUR CHOICE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
WALLED SOFTWARE GARDENS ARE ANTI CUSTOMER.
NOT BEING ABLE TO MODIFY YOUR OWN DEVICE OR ITS SOFTWARE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
NOT HAVING COMPLETE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
SUING YOUR FAN BASE FOR PIRATING GAMES YOU REFUSE TO MAKE AVAILABLE IS ABSOLUTELY FRICKING EVIL.
hence because of this.
NINTENDO AND ALL OTHER CONSOLES (WITH ONE OR 2 EXCEPTIONS) ARE ALL EVIL AND ANTI CUSTOMER. SUPPORTING NINTENDO IS DOING HARM TO ALL VIDEO GAMES!!!
I agree with all of these except:
>NOT HAVING COMPLETE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Manufacturers simply cannot cram every past gens chipset into each of their consoles. Some way to turn an old copy ibto a digital version that works on every console going forward would be a good solution but would be near impossible to do retroactively and doesn't fricking matter now that physical games are kill.
>Manufacturers simply cannot cram every past gens chipset into each of their consoles
They can build emulators for previous consoles that can run on the future hardware, fans do it for free by reverse engineering hardware, should be a breeze with the actual engineers and internal design information.
Emulators, especially the ones on current gen consoles, are not really like replaying your old games but that's less important concern.The biggest problem is reading the old physical media they were on. You can't shrink a disc drive or cartridge reader beyond a certain point and verify an old legit copy retroactively to reward a digital copy is impossible. Nintendo cannot make a system with a NES, SNES, N64, Mini-Disc, Blu-Ray, and SD card reader. Allowing customers to do emulation without telling them to rebuy their old games is the issue.
>Nintendo cannot make a system with a NES, SNES, N64, Mini-Disc, Blu-Ray, and SD card reader
They aren't trying hard enough
>an external attachment is equivalent an internal reader
>a cable converter is the same form factor of a cartridge reader/disc drive
Stop pretending to be dumb.
Yes, best just rebuy all your old games on the eshop every console
I didn't say I liked or support the current predicament, Spiro gaynew. I am just not a child and can understand the technical hurdles.
I'll bite. First of all you have autism.
>ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
I disagree
>DOUBLE CHARGING TO USE YOUR OWN INTERNET IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
They aren't charging you to use your own internet. You're charged for using their eco system.
>NOT HAVING AN OPEN SYSTEM TO USE THE PERIPHERALS OR CONTROLLERS OF YOUR CHOICE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Good thing all consoles can be cracked
>WALLED SOFTWARE GARDENS ARE ANTI CUSTOMER.
I disagree
>NOT BEING ABLE TO MODIFY YOUR OWN DEVICE OR ITS SOFTWARE IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
You can modify consoles
>NOT HAVING COMPLETE BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Tell that to valve and microsoft
>SUING YOUR FAN BASE FOR PIRATING GAMES YOU REFUSE TO MAKE AVAILABLE IS ABSOLUTELY FRICKING EVIL.
Nope its based as frick
>hence because of this.
>NINTENDO AND ALL OTHER CONSOLES (WITH ONE OR 2 EXCEPTIONS) ARE ALL EVIL AND ANTI CUSTOMER. SUPPORTING NINTENDO IS DOING HARM TO ALL VIDEO GAMES!!!
PC vegans are worse tbh
>ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Exclusives are the best thing for the industry.
>ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Shut the frick up.
Based.
>ALL EXCLUSIVITY IS ANTI CUSTOMER.
Exclusivity is fine when its the console maker's own games. Third party exclusive games are and will always be bullshit unless the circumstances are very specific.
called it
no one wants to take your shitty bait. Here's your (You).
This bait is so good I know it's bait and I'm still mad.
Stop making these fricking threads you homosexual
I don't even want to sound like a dick but... nintendo apart from software droughts also have hardware droughts. seriously before the Switch when was the last NON moronic nintendo console?
I don't even want to sound like a dick but.. you're trans
The Nintendo Switch has already cemented its place in history as one of the greatest gaming systems of all time, with one of the best libraries of games ever.
nintendo is literally apple of videogames, no one knows but somehow it sells
>N64 - sucess
>Gamecube - bomb
>Wii - success
>Wii U - bomb
>Switch - success
Tick tock.
GameBoy - Success
GameBoy - Success
DS - Success
3DS - Success
Switch - Success
N64 lost to PS1, Wii only succeeded because of retirement homes buying them, the switch is their first console success in a while that succeeded because of it's games. Even if you want to call the portability a "gimmick", it's sure as shit has more longevity than swinging your hand or touching a screen on your controller to impact the television.
>N64 lost to PS1
Still a success for Nintendo
Let's be honest here, the Switch is a success because its a handheld, first and for most. The Dock just adds more flexibility(which is also why it became a success).
>>N64 - sucess
u wot m8
2/3rd of the industry forgot to aim at children and families but Nintendo didn't.
>muh periphery audience
There's a difference between aiming at kids but having an expanded audience and aiming at older audiences and incidentally having children play your game. It's all about a focus demographic.
>2/3rd of the industry forgot to aim at children and families but Nintendo didn't.
GTA and Fortnite are aimed squarely at children, Nintendo audiences are mostly adults and they know it with how much they play into the nostalgia
the absolute current state of Nintendo Switch
Nintendo appeal to wholesome white families.
As an old school gamer and parent myself, I have taste. I want to make sure my kids get the very best, so I let them play Nintendo.
>Nintendo appeal to wholesome white families.
That's weird.
Weird that you had to specify it like that.
Why couldn't you just say "families" because like middle and working classes have those regardless of skin.
Only white people are wholesome.
Weird LARP
>GTA and Fortnite are aimed squarely at children
Fortnite, maybe but not GTA. That's why I pointed out periphery demographics as a fallacy.
This question has been asked ad nauseum, and it has been answered ad nauseum.
If a game system has enough games to incentivize gamers to buy, they will buy.
>If a game system has enough games to incentivize gamers to buy, they will buy.
This. Consumers don't care about hardware. They care about games. They go where the games are. And Switch has an astounding lineup of hits you can't play anywhere else.
Basically why the ps1 and ps2 dominated their generations.
PlayStation has in a way become the new name brand for videogame consoles. You can buy a PlayStation and it's assured you'll have a powerful machine that has a robust library with shit to play. That kind of security means people just buy PlayStation now because, it's PlayStation, of course it'll be good, they never made a bad system. But as a result Sony is nowhere NEAR as competitive as they were during PS1/PS2 when they actually had to try to earn your purchase. Anyone who actually likes Playstation can admit that they've regressed, and by a lot.
No, the reason people buy playstation is purely because they want to play online skinner boxes and that's the one all their friends are also playing the shitty online skinner boxes on. Sony is the CoD/Apex/Fortnite console now. The consequence of this is that they don't bother making good single player games anymore and third parties also target their console with shitty online games. This is also why Nintendo is untouchable and is still selling 16m consoles in the 7th year. If you want single player games you gotta buy Nintendo, no way around it. PC is dragged down by Sony into the online cancer, although it at least has some great indie games.
>of course it'll be good, they never made a bad system
Every system they've made after PS1 has been terrible. Their hardware sucks. They money hatted 3rd party devs. Their diehard fans exist only in countries where only PS existed. Gamecube and Xbox were better consoles. 360 was better. One X was better. Series X was better.
On past handhelds Nintendo would put all their eggs into the Mario basket, putting less resources into everything else to save money. With the switch they put a ton of resources into other games like Zelda, Smash, Animal Crossing and Luigi's Mansion.
It happened because nobody else even tried. Gamepass killed any reason to buy an Xbox and the PS5 literally has less exclusives than the Virtual Boy.
Literally just good games. I remember when the switch was seen as an underdog, since it came out before other consoles of it's generation and was competing with consoles that had been out for years and had bigger libraries and better hardware. And nintendo had fricked up royally with the wii u.
>Literally just good games
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games
>wii-u port
>tranimal crossing
>pokemon
>pokemon
>pokemon
>pokemon
>pokemon: genwunner edition
>wii sports steering wheel edition
>wii sports switch port edition
>wii-u port
>n64 port
>n64 port + gamecube port + wii port
>gameboy port
Ain't even gonna take a shot at TOTK but the port shit continues on down the chart.
>>wii-u port
8D is a remaster. Nobody calls P5R a port.
>pokemon
Yes.
you missed some.
I did. I was trying to pick the titles even a tendie wouldn't defend. The list shows that slop-binging isn't exclusive to snoys and that other company that used to make consoles.
Nintendo Switch has games.
it has games
piss5 sucks donkey balls