How's your Genshin adventure going bros? Looking forward to the desert in 3.1? That new BotW trailer looked nice too, can't wait to try it out.
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Sir this is Ganker, not /vmg/.
>'sir how do we shill our game with everyone talking about the new zelda game?'
>'just slap it on there with zelda, and mention the new zelda trailer in the op'
I will never forget how genshits marketed their product upon release by showing side-by-sides with botw. My favorite was when they were like 'it has climbing!' like THATS what made BotW so great, and not the actual stuff like having an actual fricking physics engine that allows great replayability. Then they tried adopting BotW memes and got called out for it they still do, funnily enough
Seethe forever, homosexuals
fpbp
yet you are the one seething
curious
>BotW
>replayability
it doesn't even have multiple save files
It does though, normal and master mode are separate slots.
Sir you are not a real janny
Genshin mogs it
Bro you forgot to swap your abyss team to your exploration team.
Why did you make an OP using a picture that I took?
Genshin looks so much better
Genshitters and graphicshomosexuals need to kill themselves.
I was just saying the obvious no need to be mad
Genshin is the only game that does the 3D anime look right, their overworld looks like something out of a Ghibli movie
BotW has some ugly piss filter over everything
Scarlet Nexus mogs it, hard.
Scarlet Nexus in general is an exception when it comes to "anime" games
Everyone else ends up falling for play-dough graphics
Scarlet Nexus couldn't even mog Astral Chain
>gaming laptop
>literal phone game
I doubt it's doing much of anything. Never mind that laptops are only like 10-15% slower than desktops now days
>Never mind that laptops are only like 10-15% slower than desktops now days
Lol.
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3080-Laptop-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3080/m1443565vs4080
>User benchmark
it's not the 00's anymore, unless you're also investing in a vr set there's no downside to owning a laptop for games
Unless they suddenly made a significant change within the past few years then you're full of shit
They did, starting with the GTX1000 series the chips are far more power efficient and beform close to their desktop counterparts
Obviously something like a 3080 will pull farther ahead, but something like a 3060 is only 15% slower in a laptop. Sometimes the laptop 3060 is faster because it has more CUDA cores
Similar story with AMD CPUs in laptops, a 5800H isnt much slower than a 5700X, and will actually outperform a 3700X
Not to mention not to long ago you could buy a gaming laptop with a 3060 for not much more than a desktop 3060 alone. It was a no brainer for a lot of people. Especially if all you're doing is playing fricking Genshin
TL;DR it's not 2012 anymore, that laptop probably outperforms most desktops on Ganker
I thought the switch was supposed to have some amazing OLED screen which shits on the steam deck. This is just embarassing.
That's clearly not an OLED Switch, wouldn't help the piss filter though
>That's clearly not an OLED Switch
What.
What kind of company sells two different versions of the same product.
How the frick are you supposed to know when you go to buy one?
One says OLED and has a bigger screen, while the other doesn't say OLED and has a smaller screen. They're often also different prices
They’ve plaster OLED enough everywhere to make the distinction.
>Laptop
Cringe
>The Traveler is not always in your exploration/story quests team
AR20-kun
>op is a desperate nintendoshill afraid of genshin success and begging genshinchads to have mercy with botw2
HAHAHAHAHAHA
shut the frick up i took that pic
You can like BoTW and still have shit taste, anon.
Seems pretty good, just grinding the new artifacts a little and hopefully can get Kusanali a nice set to roll, or worst case scenario, I have more fodder for my Hu Tao's Crimson Witch artifact strongbox.
>Raiden National in overworld
Soulless
That's clearly an overload team
>Bennet
>Kazuha
gay.
Strongbox have been a scam so far. Not a single decent artifact and people saying you save resin using that is false.
It's resinfree rerolls on artifacts you moron
What stats and set does Kusanali want walnutbro?
I love Raiden! Also Sara, Fish, Cookie, Beidou, especially Keqing!
>How's your Genshin adventure going bros?
Waiting for Kusanali and an Ayato rerun. I don't have anything to roll for until then.
Waiting for Nilou, Kusanali, Scaramouche, Dehya, and Baizhu. Neat to see somebody going for Ayato.
>Neat to see somebody going for Ayato.
I missed him the first time around, sadly. I think his animations and kit are cool as frick. I might even try to get the sword, too. He seems underrated.
Ningguang got shafted the hardest out of all Geo characters. She's the only attack scaling Geo DPS
Ning deserved a lot more love for essentially being a Chinese empress
100% should have been a 5*. All of Liyue and geo as an element is cursed due to her being a 4*.
Tigga homie is being added to the standard banner, so it this point only Geo is missing from the pool of standard 5 stars
I still buy into that theory that Ningguang was supposed to be a standard 5 star and just had her base stats nerfed when she was demoted to 4 star. Even her constellations feel like they belong to a 5 star
Sorry anon, he's not underrated, but simply shit. Really wanted him and did a successful pull, eventually stopped playing him after 2 weeks because it basically wasn't fun.
Q for water circle, E for hold M1. Even more braindead gameplay than Hu Tao, also hard to build for f2p to deal good consistent damage without his signature. He also is not much stronger than Childe though, so it's better for you to think twice before rolling.
Da Wei looks older than I remember, all those billion dollars revenue must be stressful.
He's 25 though. ToF doomposting must've took it hard on him.
does that game even still exist
Probably no but by the quality of Sumeru it seems like it spooked our chink friend dawei
>anniversary rewards are good
Tower of Fantasy mattered in some way
>anniversary rewards are the same as last year either pre-or post frekaout
Tower of Fantasy was never on the radar to begin with.
>No Keqing
So we're just gonna memoryhole that incident, huh?
Ahh where is my Jean character wish event??
even kqm forgotten the whole reason of its existence.
but I still like my Yae
>roll Itto
>build him
>end up putting all those good husks pieces on Noelle instead
>skinny "buff" dumbass dude
>cute girl in pantyhose maid outfit
Easy fricking choice
You forgot to add that it's HEAVY ARMORED maid outfit.
Still peak character design, a long dress and that fat fricking ass in stockings beneath, it's a shame that her kit sucks.
Naw, her biggest issue is engery, her kit outside that is fine.
Obviously you dont bring her to a boss fight, but if its AoE you want she does just fine.
No energy generation isn't that big of a deal since she's on field most and has dedicated supports that can double as batteries
The only time I run into energy problems is against bosses, and you've already mentioned she's better against hordes of mobs
I meant her kit as skills. Would've been 100 times more enjoyable to play if she had some huge fricking slam on E instead of a shield. Still absolutely love her as a character and HoYo seems to be of the same opinion.
Bro your C4?
Does it even count? The radius is ridiculous.
It's the single highest scaling instance of damage in Noelle's kit, and is buffed while her burst is active so you want to make sure it explodes during her burst
It's too complicated and not in the fun way. The explosion must be somehow timed while in burst considering that it has knockback on swings and it means that you will stop just to run closer to enemies. Also doesn't work well if you want to go wild with her charged attack.
Her burst is up basically all the time, and bigger enemies like mitachurls and lawachurls will be up in your face regardless, it'll work very well against them
The point still stands though. If only they gave her some kind of chargeable slash like Heizou has.
Just use Heizou then?
Already, lad.
Noelle's kit is great though, everything synergizes well with her def scaling. And she's been bugged with the Husk set which works perfectly with her
Check out Xinyan for an example of a shitty kit
>roll Itto in 14 rolls
>roll Redhorn later in one 10 (really something like 13 due to previous weapon banner rolls)
>build Xinyan with redhorn instead
I will probably still run Itto at some point when I get Gorou constellations because the based moron is fun to me. Noelle is still great though even if I don’t use her and I like seeing the Noelle fanatics crush content with her. Game needs a musclegirl oni too if they ever add Inazuma filler characters
There are already an oni girl in ZZZ, even though without muscles.
I’ll probably try ZZZ at some point, but I still have my hopes&copes for Genshin.
They couldn't even give the "muscle guy" muscles
But at the very least Noelle canonically has moron strength
>regret picking Raiden
Smoothbrains
>Start playing
>Do a bunch of quests
>Decide to check out the gacha store
>There's an option for new players with a guaranteed knight girl
>"You need 9700 more primogems to purchase"
What the frick is this shit? I got like 300 in 2 hours of playing. Every other game would shower you in a bunch of free rolls when you start.
Incorrect, you need 1600 primogems which is 10 pulls, because you can only do 10 pulls on that banner, as it refunds 2 rolls.
You only need 8 actually. It has a discount if you're new and they give you 20 rolls to roll on it
Are you sure you're not illiterate? You only need 10 rolls to get Noelle, which is 1600 primos. Incredibly easy to get as a new player if you actually play the game
You need to be mentally damaged to play a game like this. Do yourself a favour and uninstall and play a real game. Not a singleplayer MMO chinese slotmachine.
sorry bro, just finished getting sucked off. wanna say that again?
You forgot your sheldon image, you deranged homosexual.
9700? I think maybe you read something like 970 or something. Also 2 hours would have been enough to do at least 20 rolls. Go play 2K or something you illiterate Black person.
I'm pretty sure the game gives you 10 summons for hitting adventure rank 10.
I tried playing BoTW again after thousands of hours of genshin and I just can't do it
The silky smooth 25fps, the textures that look like they belong on an N64 game, the white fog always on screen, everything is just so ugly, genshin took the visual concept and actually executed it correctly, why couldn't nintendo do it?
Not to mention the gameplay, botw's biggest problem was that you're expected to play it for a long time but link basically doesn't gain any abilities at all throughout that time, but genshin's character gacha system and team building variety just solved that problem entirely
botw was really good for its time but theres ultimately no point to playing it now, when genshin has a chinese japanese and arab region with 50 different enemy types, zelda would feel like a tech demo, only thing it has is its superior physics system if you're really into that
What do you guys think of my new Keq team? c0 but with Mistsplitter, still suck at the rotation but it’s tricky for me
https://streamable.com/dencx9
I gotta say, the weekly requests don't have nearly the amount of soul as the Inazuma ones.
I got all the checkmarks here, all the chests from the treasure room, did the quest for deactivating all the devices, and have all the dendroculi.
Anything else big I'm missing?
The luxurious chest in Akademiya.
I know I'm missing chests, I probably won't be able to find them all until I get the compass.
Mostly wanted to know about other stuff like the Foolish Fatuus quest that's big but also easy to miss.
Kill the group of shroomboar near the ruins of dahri to activate a world quest. Also there’s a common chest in Port of Ormos on a roof of a building near where Dori was in the story quest that also starts a world quest.
Oh and the riddles on the notice board next to the adventurer guild leads to a world quest too.
Did you get to 20/23 quests? That’s the current limit not counting ones unlocked by daily commissions.
Also 572 total chests is the max. So you could be like me and have all that stuff but still be missing 50 chests.
So uh....
is the Switch version of Genshin Impact just fricking cancelled at this point or what? I was actually looking forward to GI on my Switch
Sony paid for console exclusivity, it really is as simple as that
>implying the Shitch could even run Genshin
LOL
Kokochads won.
>only dicky and hebe on top
>hags are trash tier
Based
I honestly don't understand why you'd play this rubbish when games like Breath of the WIld exist and with Tears of the Kingdom coming out, we can finally all forget this nightmare called Genshin Impact ever existed.
If you are playing Genshin Impact currently then you are contributing towards the death of video games,
>when games like Breath of the WIld exist
I thought it's already settled that Genshin is better than BOTW
Not even close. Gameplay is more fun in botw and the content is not locked behind a slot machine. Try harder to shill, wumao
Combat is locked behind weapons that break after 5 swings lmao
L M A O
I don't like that system either but I'll take that over gameplay locked behind gambling real life money any day of the week
>content is locked behind a slot machine
You never actually played the game, aren't you
Of course they haven't, they been parroting the same shitty points for 2 years now. It's mental illness
Look at him go!
>Just spend $500 for a 50/50 chance to unlock the character you want bro!
$500 makes it 100% brainlet-kun.
That does not make it any more appealing wumao
>spend 0$
>save primos for characters I actually want
>still have 50/50 and guarantees
Whaling is only for people who want every single 5* and constellations to make a braindead easy game even more braindead.
>Not wanting every single 5*
>Wanting to grind for years just to do so
Fricking moron mentality wumao
>grind for years
Play the fricking game before shitposting about it. You can guarantee every character by saving a few months in advance, and that's assuming you are losing every single 50/50 and always reaching 90 pity anyway, which is not likely to happen.
It takes too long. Grinding commissions is fricking BORING. 1 Fricking roll takes you 2 FRICKING days worth of dailies. FRICK YOU AND FRICK THIS GAME
You get events almost every two weeks and there are story quests, world quests, exploration primos etc. Play the fricking game.
I did and it is shit.
What, you genshintards didnt expect someone who played the game for extended periods and still think that it is shit?
Nah, because I played for months I know the exact problem this shit game have and knows how this shit encourages mindless consumerism
I will now play a real game instead of wasting time on this trash, as I had fully understood the core of this shit game and the purpose of it
you get primos, but damn the amount they give is smaller than the amount people need
How many do you need? Enouigh to C6R5 every 5 star? Characters are much higher value puls in Genshin compared to other gachas
>What, you genshintards didnt expect someone who played the game for extended periods and still think that it is shit?
I could believe you if you didn't act like dailies are literally the only way to get primos for F2P players. I don't even 100% clear or anything and still get enough for every character I want.
>C6R5
Well shit, you are in for some trouble.
C6 requires you to roll a character 6 times which can be anything from 540~1080 rolls, you won't get this as F2P on a single banner for sure.
By R5 I assume you mean a 4* star weapon? That's where I can't really count it properly because there are multiple of them in banners, even if the minimum would be 50 rolls. If it's not a 4* weapon, well good fricking luck because it's at least double or even triple the amount of rolls you need for a character.
>By R5 I assume you mean a 4* star weapon?
When people say R5 in relation to a 5 star character, they mean that 5 star character's signature 5 star weapon at max refines
That's probably the hardest thing possible and absolutely not worth it imo. Get a R5 4* or run the signature weapon at R1
>dailies are not the only primo source
haha you mean the chests that gives 2 primos? Or the occasional events that gives a few hundreds if you did everything correctly?Lmao having a job is probably more efficient
this, working a few hours per day for about 2 weeks and whaling would probably allow you to clear 12 abyss faster than f2p could do lmao
the best weapon in gacha game is the classic green american cash
>american dolla going to shit
>ching chong kneel to it either way
the one and only weapon valid in genshin, work a few hours, whale top tier character/weapon, farm artifacts for a week(enough for whales), another week for mats, finish the endgame
>farm artifacts for a week(enough for whales)
farming artifacts, especially in a short time frame, is less about money and more about having severe autism.
A week worth of resin should be enough to have "useable" artifacts for whales. Sure you won't get decent substats but it does the job that would probably take f2poors months, weapons are also a big factor. Mats for ascension/talents is probably the only thing that could take you longer as a whale, since you won't have much choice unless you are whaling for resin, but you might as well whale for Rank up weapons at that point
Or don't be an impulsive moron who wants everything and play the game.
I didnt mention anything on the matter. Just a difference of how powerful a whale can get while spending his time on something more "productive", call it minmaxing your actual progress in the game if you like
There is no real need to point out whales can get powerful faster, that's the whole point of throwing money at gacha.
But honestly it's also not worth it because again, the game is very easy outside of Abyss floor 12, and that's if you want a 36* run.
Once again, the point isnt just stating the obvious but that whaling is preferable to f2poors if you spend the time work2whale instead of taking forever to achieve the same via f2p, you get done before f2poors and free more time in the long run
Or you could spend absolutely nothing and simply play the game for longer, or drop it without regret if you don't like it.
>subject yourself to longer sessions of daily/artifact grinding
you are joking, right?I mean, I wasn't counting the main story quests if thats what you meant, that would take its fair amount of time as either whale or f2p but lets be real, whales that minmax their time played/time freed are the ones that know how to enjoy the game
If I counted only the time spent in grinding for mats or artifacts, I wouldn't have 1/20 of my currrent playtime. Shit takes like 10 minutes per day.
Chests have various tiers, the higher ones can give 5, 10, 20 primos. But there is a frickton to find so it's hardly an issue.
Then we have recurring in-game events + web events, and let's not forget story quests and world quests.
You keep showing you hardly played the game.
dailies only provide 1800 primos a month. each new version comes with anywhere from 8k to 12k give or take worth of exploration, quest, and event primos.
That's a 5 star every 6 months
a guaranteed 5 star under absolute worst case double max pity conditions is ~25k primos. we get a new version released every 1.5-2 months, and a new character release about as often. if you're staying up to date on all the exploration and events you're getting every character you want to get. and if you aren't actually playing the game then what are you even doing here complaining about it for?
Genshitter cope is fricking insane. Do you realise how moronic you sound? have a nice day
seething after being proven wrong is not an argument, incel anon.
wasn't that anon, just pointing out how that's a free 5 star every 6 months for 10-15 minutes of your time a day
>treat the game like a job and you'll get thrown a few crumbs
How about just play a different game you fricking obsessed c**t
15 minutes a day is nothing, you morons spend more time arguing here than I do playing Genshin
I don't want to commit myself to playing a slot machine 15 minutes a day just for features that other games offer up front. KYS.
>features that other games offer up front.
name a single free game that gives you all the best characters up front at no time or money cost and has actual gameplay and exploration like genshin.
breath of the wild
>free game
>"noooo but I can emulate it!"
>free game
>demands you to play it 15 minutes daily
time is money, friend
And you're wasting your time shitposting on Gankers
I'm not shitposting I think this game is harmful and a huge waste of time and money. It has no place on Ganker
I have never spend money on genshin and its still fun. Its a good game, chud
>you are contributing towards the death of video games,
That would be westerners and big asset managers
How many western devs make gacha games?
Say what you want about games like Fortnite, but at least nothing is locked behind a paywall aside from cosmetics
>How many western devs make gacha games?
>he doesn't know
Neither is anything in Genshin if you roll and save responsibly.
Genshin doesn't have trannies, gays or Black folk in it so I'd say it's a more positive influence on the gaming sphere than literally any western game released in the last few years.
Good post!
Amerimutts malding because someone insulted their gods (Black folk).
This
have a nice day Chang.
Genshin doesn't have tra-
I can hate all the things you mentioned and still hate israelites. This gayme is porn for virgin homosexuals who are terminally addicted to fricking anime girls and think spending money on their wifu will simulate a real relationship. The game sounds like only fans anime shit. Ill stick with games that are not pay to win.
It's fine to dislike the business model but personally i don't have any issue with it, games like MH are fun but i don't like that they're over so quickly and your progress gets reset every 1-2 years when a new one comes out.
Meanwhile Genshin's model allows it to be continuously updated for many years (the current plan is 10 at minimum) with an annual budget of $200m+, so it's not like there's no upsides to it.
The p2w is also fairly unintrusive in Genshin given that it has no pvp or leaderboards, all content can be cleared f2p and getting 5-star characters of your choosing is still totally doable if you have the restraint to save ingame currency for a bit.
>the p2w is fairly unintrusive
>lol just do daily quests and grind this single player mmo mindlessly for months for the chance to get the character of your choice if you're lucky
yeah, no thanks.
I wouldn't consider 5 minutes per day a "grind" but sure it's not gonna appeal to everyone.
>if you're lucky
This is incorrect though, unlike many other gachas, Genshin has a robust pity system that allows you to guarantee getting a character you want.
Don't bother trying to reason with him. It's just one of these Amerimutt midwits who reactively seethes at anything without Black folk or israeli influence
Of course the chink seething about Black folk and israelites is most definitely a reasonable guy. Very well adjusted and not mentally ill you people are.
Too add: the gacha system is predictable and with enough primos saved for doing quests and events, you'll have, well, practically a 100% chance of getting the characters you want. Also, the game has a huge community of leakers, so they help you decide who to pick literally months in advance. I started playing late February and I got Raiden the moment her banner came out because the pulls were predictable. And then I got Yelan... then Kokomi...
>pulls were predictable
Pity I assume
For characters it works like this:
The 90th roll is guaranteed to be a 5*, and you have a 50% chance it's the banner character. The second 5* pull is always guarnateed instead.
Meaning that 180 rolls = 100% chance to get a featured character, but you never really reach this number because there is soft pity at 75~ so in reality it's more like 150ish assuming you have the worst luck in the world and lose every single 50/50.
I played BOTW five years ago
Reminder to not take the sheldonschizo seriously as he defends tower of fantasy despite his shitting on GI and its fans all day.
This homosexual might be even worse than barry from the final fantasy threads
Just slogging through the aranara quests.
>unlocks their village
>quest branches out
>follow one branch
>shit branches even more
>do another primary branch
>that branches out as well
And I have yet to unlock sumeru's weekly requests and bounties.
FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Take it slow that shits permanent anyway and kino
I admit that I love 'em wacky little forest guys
They're great. A shame most of Ganker hates them for some reason
Because they're tied to a questline where you have to read
Well it was pretty annoying to read some meaningless shit for a good half of the quest, but overall it was decent and Aranaras make better mascot than Paimon does.
I LOVE MY WIFE LUMINE.
You guys need to stop responding to the schizos
>Aranakin: FRICK SANDBlack folk
Made for Raiden's big sword.
Moterfricker just leak her already you homosexuals
>70-80
maybe I'm moronic but aren't all energy costs 40 60 80? There is no 70.
Xiao's is 70
huh I have no characters with 70 or 90 so i had no idea. Hope Kusanali is 70. My 80 energy traveler takes fricking forever with 175% ER.
Dendro traveler needs like 250ER
fuggg, just gonna have to wait for kusa then & play them off each other.
Nilou has 70. Yae and Ei are 90
There's no reason for Yae's burst to cost 90
Nevertheless, she charges it pretty quickly.
The intent was probably to make her play better with Raiden but Raiden is very good without Yae taking up another team slot.
At least Dendro makes Yae's burst hit really hard now.
The intent was actually to sell you her C1. It'd the only constellation that buffs her burst other than +3 levels, and all of her other constellations buff her totems instead
They upped her energy cost to create a problem and sold you the solution
Yeah I just run her with Raiden like
said. Not many people actually like it though and I'm in the minority that do.
Xiao, Yelan, Kokomi, and Itto have 70.
Raiden and Yae have 90
Roll for Nilou
She needs to have an exposed navel and then maybe I will consider. Why does Dori have one but not her?
Adding as a cute roll. I won't skip another Yoimiya situation.
So the saplings have grown and I picked them all. What's next?
Visit it outside the dream world, then go find Varsha and convince her to go there.
reminder that all genshin posters are skinny asians, probably chinese, treat them like how'd you treat a roach
He's back
I love waiting 20 fricking minutes for this puppet jackass to stand up while I'm already on a timer.
No kidding. Trying to 3-star this floor is less a skill challenge and more an optimization metric for how good your artifacts are for maximum burst damage.
I fricking hate Maguu Kenki so much. I didn't even feel satisfaction after rolling into him with 30k+ spins (boosted by Mona and Elegy lmao) just to humiliate him with Xinyan.
Why do they do this? Maguu Kenki Artificially steals time with its fricking start up and second phase transformations
after having the deal with the Ruin Serpent who spends 90% of the time underground Maguu Kenki looks like a fricking godsend
you can build energy even while he's invlunerable
burst check
I'll take Magu Kenki over the Ruin Serpent any day
I don't care, I don't even do floor 12
Why are the Inazuma samurais joining forces with a Sumeru dancer and a mushroom?? There's no logic or coherency in thatgkaxj4
Why did they do it?
this game is always getting shilled. so sell me. Can I beat this game? I don't want to play an endless grind fest, I want end credits. Is the story good? Can I beat this game without spending a penny? Why would you spend money on this game?
There is no ending yet. The game is continuously being updated with new content. You can play and beat everything currently available for free. You only spend if you want to make the game easier or there's an available character you want to get immediately and didn't save enough free currency to guarantee getting them. It's recommended to never spend real money and just quit if you don't enjoy the game.
No, no and no. You would spend money on the game to gamble getting characters which have different movesets, talents, etc and you need duplicated to level them up further to make them actually useful.
Thank you, so the game is too good to be true, and pay to win trash. Ill stick with D3 or monster hunter for my treadmill games. breath of the wild is better then this shit game on default because of its pay to "frick my wifu" strategy. Shit is weak.
>pay to win trash
its a single player game and no character needs constellations or 'level them up' to finish the game. Its a very easy game and the only reason to spend money is to get a specific character you want right now instead of later.
>and you need duplicated to level them up further to make them actually useful.
Why do you feel the need to lie like this? You can already disparage the game for having gacha elements without doing so.
Not one 5-star in the game needs constellations to become useful, they're just whalebait for people who wanna flex their wallets by making their characters far more powerful than they need to be.
Decided to try this game and reroll for Ganyu but Ive been cucked by Diluc on her banner.... twice
uninstall while you can. shit game.
I cant tell if building Keq and Fischl for damage or EM is better these days with dendro.
You need both
That's a pretty surefire way to suck at both. "Damage" builds only work if you put EVERYTHING to damage. Consider the difference between a 70-90% CR/200-250% CD and a 15-25% CR, 80-100% CD. At the lower range, because of the exponential growth between the two you may as well not even have crit at all. And Crit builds still need ATK to function. If you build damage you literally do not have room for any significant amount of EM.
That's fine for Vape/Melt (and maybe quicken). You'll probably run ~100 EM on those, just taking whichever stats you couldn't get to go perfectly into crit, and then any external EM you can get on top of that. For hyperbloom/taser though, you need to stack all the EM or else forget it. The only saving grace is depending on your team comp, you can get away with having only one character with EM who triggers reactions while the others can still be DPS builds.
Aggravate works with crit. I don't know the formula, but I've heard other people say you want 200 EM and the rest balanced between ATK, CR, CD
Yeah I mentioned that as quicken. Basically you gear for aggravate the same way you would for vape/melt. As far as I can tell though it's not nearly as good as those though. There's a long cooldown between aggravate procs and the damage probably isn't going to be as big (depends largely on the character and attack that procs it).
Considering Electro+Dendro gives you Aggravate, you just can add Hydro to get Hyperbloom as well, at which point you will probably treat Aggravate as a nice bonus on top of the blooms instead of your main damage and just stack EM.
Which Seelie should I pick bros?
Purple or green
>accidentally took the pill by picking the new seelies introduced each event
it's over
>How's your Genshin adventure going bros?
I used all my primo for Kokomi. I still don't have her. Only 10 days left and I'm rolling when I have 160 primo. I'm scared, imo it's the last time for her to be in a banner.
Bro, your wallet?
>I'm scared, imo it's the last time for her to be in a banner.
This is her third appearance and she's showed up every 4 patches calm your shit
Well, eventually they will have to slow down with the shilling, like they did with Child.
>about to lose her title as the only hydro hag
Yelan is useless in 2 weeks
I can't roll Candace anyway because she's on Cyno. I have to wait for her to pop from standard or be on another banner I want. Besides the likelihood I turn Candace into a full on DPS with a staff of Homa and then run her with Yelan is incredibly high anyway.
Are you ready bros?
20 rolls for anni omg i can't wait!
Yes. I'm going to rake in a lot of (you)s over the anniversary rewards, and the desert is probably my 2nd most excited area we are going to get other than maybe Sneznhaya or Fontaine if it's kinda urban.
How bad could the 2nd anniversary be?
>lost 50/50 to fricking diluc
I just want fish where the frick am I gonna find those primos somehow there seem to be less chests than in fricking china
>Got Ganyu
>Got C1 Ganyu
>C6 Xingqiu
>Like C8 Sucrose
>No Dori
>Last banner got like C10 Diona and C4 Collei and a Zhongli spook and no Fischl when I only needed one more to finally C6 her
3.0 has been a fricking blowup for me I probably won't get Kusanali at this rate.
>Rolling for 4 stars
I want to frick the midget israelite. Simple as.
>mfw guaranteed to get Kusanali
>have enough to get both Nilou and Kusanali
>on coinflip to see if I can MAYBE win it and save some rolls
It's after these two and Scaradouche that it calms down just a bit and then it's Dehya.
>he doesn't line it up with Monday so he can do it and the weekly bosses all in one go
Not gonna make it bro.
Fontaine is the next region right?
Most likely. It goes in order of the regions shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAlKhARUcoY. I'm more excited for Natlan though so Fontaine has to win me over a lot.
>STOP INSULTING MY MASTERS!!
>Y-YOU MUST BE A CHINK IF YOU DONT LET RABBIS EAT YOUR CHILDRENS FORESKIN!!!
Uh bros
https://twitter.com/dorontabi/status/1569935985986932736
long live the king
saw this earlier today in pixiv, holy shit he's good
>That new BotW trailer looked nice too
I love nintendo commercials, as if you need to buy botw after Genshin
I'm convinced whatever they have in the new botw, Genshin will copy in some way. The floating islands will probably be Fontaine airships or something
Celestia at least. Those floating islands are already in the sky box.
Collei has a really nice butt for a hebe
It looks like she's wearing a thong under her spats.
She probably just started puberty and is experimenting
>imagine playing a mobile game on a PC
>imagine playing a adventure game with m+kb
DPS | Sub DPS | Utility Support | Survival Support
Does Hu Tao really have to be C1?
Not really but not always being out of stamina helps a lot.
Yelan won and I will continue skipping Kazuha.
He's permabenched
Based, but you confuse me. Did you roll for a 4* and then just not like him?
Why did everyone suddenly decide "Yeah, Ganyu's not good anymore"
She's never at the top anymore.
The truth is she never was that great. It's just that early on we really had nothing better. Her two main uses are mobbing freeze which is subject to abyss actually having rooms you can vacuum with Venti, or melt, which is awkward to play at best. It's not that she's weak, she just isn't... all that fantastic to play?
holy shit moronic f2p gays that cant build characte correctly
Ganyu remains the most broken char so far. I dont see anyone shooting for 70k without any reactions (amos bow obviously). There are better chars for AOE or single target dps (Yoimiya), but mechanics wise Ganyu remains wiht best attack and ult.
>gets surpassed by ayaka
70k without any reactions
takes 3+ second to charge
so actually you're doing 23k generously speaking
all this time you can't switch to your other characters or generate energy or that number goes further down
meanwhile Yelan does 20k per second off field, also without reactions, with a free bow, Ganyu's only advantage here being AOE (surprisingly not that often relevant)
They stopped making fights where morgana teams rape everything for free, and melt Ganyu teams use supports that would give either higher damage or easier rotations on other teams
Abyss is now boss-focused so Ganyu can't freeze em. Ganyu also has the problem of not doing high DPS in short windows which most bosses who have invincibility periods counter. Also before anyone brings it up, melt-Ganyu is a meme and terribly clunky to play.
Thanks for the explanation. It's true, I've been struggling with her in floor 12 in terms of time lately, I should try a different approach.
She's still good, Ayaka is just better for Abyss 9 out of 10 times. As most "tier lists" for abyss are solely based on clear speed, Ayakas frontloaded burst is practically unbeatable at C0 and Ganyu has fallen off in favor of it because the only "fast" burst Ganyu has is in Melt setups and as
said, the characters she needs for that do better in other teams.
It's a shame too, in beta for 3.0 Burning was a great reactions that opened up completely different Melt team options for Ganyu but they nerfed it for whatever reason. It didn't even make Ganyu stronger, it just gave her Melt setup more options.
Wtf kuckqing mains told me that Eula was bad and useless
She is merely ok. Great at C6, but generally i dont use her since her top damage is lower than say Raiden damage, and while own dps is decent, not amazing and best requires use of food. Others just do more and easier.
Casually shitting out over 500k damage at C0 with just the final explosion of her burst seems pretty decent to me, her only problem is that it's backloaded in a game that heavily shills front loaded damage, but plenty of mains have worked around that and can 36 star the Abyss with her no problems
KQM just have an irrational hate boner for her for some reason
>Casually shitting out over 500k damage at C0 with just the final explosion
she doesnt
I have her at C2 and with her banner claymore. Its possible to stuck phys debuff massively with raiden (or any electro for that matter) in eam, but even at -140 phys def (electro, team debuffs, food) and good artifacts you`ll generally hit for 250k or so.
more is possible only in Abyss with bennet buff maybe. Raiden does way more way easier without need to cycle charges of E, debuff enemies etc.
>C2R1
>250k burst
Suddenly I feel a lot better about my Poortombed Cope-silver
my eula is c0 and deals around 300k burst at times, is that decent? How much would she improve if I got 1 or 2 constellations
300k is solid for a C0 Eula. C1 is effectively an unconditional 30% physical damage bonus when using her burst and will crank those numbers up a decent bit. C2 doesn't make a difference for her burst at all, just more of a QoL for overworld stuff imo
>scales that well with constellations
any other 5* that does that with its first constellation?
As far as C1s go? Yelan gets an extra charge on her skill, which is both QoL and more skill and burst damage, not to mention lower energy requirements
Itto starts off with full stacks for his special charge attack
Ganyu gets a smaller cryo damage bonus
>abyss
moron
>nooooo doesn't count!
C0 Eula mains have been nuking Masanori for over 1 million for over half a year now. No I won't spoon feed you
And lets not pretend Eula's burst is actually usable outside of the Abyss in the first place
She'll have sex with you if you promise to die afterwards.
She's 14
Out of 2.
i'll accept if the sex is what kills me
Loombutt
Love me Yelan
Love me Hu Tao
Love me Zhong the Dong
Love me China
simple as
I AM GOING TO TURN THIS FRICKING DYKE STRAIGHT WITH A SEX MARATHON!!!!!!!
She only interested in animals
Same. Tough mercenary brown girl is for sex.
I have no idea what the frick I am doing. My world level is too high and my characters don't do shit for damage. I don't know what to upgrade for the biggest boost in damage.
When a temp character joins me for a quest, they deal a sweet 500 basic attack dmg, while I do 150, even though they are both lvl40 with a lvl40 weapon. I don't have jack for artefacts
Post a picture of what characters you have available.
There you go
My team should be Xiangling, Bennet, Xingqui and some random other, but I dunno if I'm just undergeared or doing something wrong with swapping and combos. Also I have nothing but 3* weapons basically.
My goal would be to continue the the main quest to unlock Inazuma and get "The Catch" for Xiangling, but the quest is too high level for me
So the big issue is you're running the national team in the overworld which is a big mistake. National team (Bennett, XQ, Xiangling) are only good in spiral abyss and boss battles really.
Use Xingqui, Fischl, Barbara (level her up) and probably Noelle or Traveller as the main DPS.
The game works on one principle which is that you need to do elemental reactions to kill things quickly. Switch between characters frequently. Do your E and your Q then switch out (unless it's like Noelle's Q where you have to hit things).
One of the best Elemental reactions you have access to in the overworld is Electro charge where you hit an enemy with Electro and Hydro which causes continuous damage.
Having Barbara on your team will mean you don't need food anymore, can heal through most damage and can punch above your weight.
I've actually been using Noelle as my main DPS, she's my most leveled char having Whiteblind as a decent weapon.
I'll try Barbara I guess, I don't really need healing with Noelle. But as far as elem reactions go... I use Xingqui and Fischl's E, that does maybe 300 dmg, and that's it for 20 seconds, then I just resume hitting for 100 with Noelle
>National team (Bennett, XQ, Xiangling) are only good in spiral abyss and boss battles really.
How so? You lack skills useful for exploration but they do everything else. Damage, healing, protection, and particle generation.
not that guy but sometimes shit dies so fast you don't get your bursts back in time but also who the frick cares? shit's dead
Overworld mobs die too quickly to justify the burst, and national doesn't do much AOE without burst. If you get Kazuha or Sucrose though, national overworld with anemo on flex can be pretty good.
It's just my opinion. But Bennet's healing is very good at low AR and investment because it's reliant on ER. It also cannot heal to 100%. Compounded this makes exploration with him a big difficult. XQ is fine for exploration. Xiangling too. But both run into the same issues in low level exploration which is you probably just don't have enough ER built to reliably use the best parts of their kit every fight.
Up to around level 50 or even 60 I find Barbara and Noelle much better to run since their E's provide so much overworld utility. They also follow the character around and are not stuck in one spot like Bennet's Q which can be more forgiving.
I think for people struggling with levelling you want characters that are comfortable to play and have good effects rather than efficient but uncomfortable characters to work with.
Of course this completely changes when you're ar45 and are clearing 5star artifact domains. Then you can basically run whatever you want on overworld teams.
>Bennet's healing is very good at low AR
I meant isn't very good.
Bennett generates a ton of energy though and Barbara with Noelle generate none.
I'm not sure it's very comfortable to do this because you have to keep him on field for the energy generation. Remember people at this level probably don't even have fav or sac weapons so energy generation can be difficult.
I think that it's best to focus on quick switching and characters who can drop a very effective E down which does a lot so they can understand reactions etc.
Can a new player sit there spamming Bennett's e over and over until Q is up? I mean sure. But it's probably not as effective as slapping on Barb's E and getting the heal which is really what you're after rather than Bennett's attack buff.
The other issue is that Bennett's Q doesn't follow you around. On open world this can sometimes be an issue where as Barbara doesn't really face this problem.
Of course if you aren't struggling at this level then Bennett is fine. But if lower level players are struggling then I definitely recommend running Barbara until you're comfortable and levelled enough.
XQ can also heal, though it's not as effective as Barbara when you aren't fighting.
>XQ can heal
I wouldn't rely on XQ for healing at all. Especially at low levels when you probably don't have much max HP built on him anyway. Meanwhile Barbara provides great healing at low levels. I would honestly recommend running Barbara and XQ on the same team for the max HP increase from the new hydro resonance buff at low AR levels on open world.
Then either fischl for her E. Or Beidou if you've got her as the main driver. And finally a flex slot. So for Fischl maybe Noelle or another better onfield driver. Or for Beidou either an onfield driver or using Beidou as onfield, running another off field or anemo support.
At lower levels this will carry you pretty far throughout the early open world and the story with minimal investment.
But I wouldn't recommend using XQ on his own for healing or Bennett for healing because the investment just isn't there to really make use of either of those aspects for the characters when you're using blue weapons and artifacts.
How can anyone be THIS bad at a fricking mobile game? It looks like you read everything about the game before even playing it yourself like a b***hass zoomer you are and you can't even then play it. Why don't people play video games themselves anymore? Use your fricking brains, don't read from the internet what you should do, play the fricking game yourself. You can watch those 3 hour video essays after you have finished the game if you have to waste your time.
If I read shit that's because the game is unfun as frick, enemies being orange and taking 10 minutes to kill medium ones.
I don't know shit about national teams and whatnot, I just like spears and Xiangling is my only one, and having my only other pyro, Bennet, to heal and have the x2 pyro bonus is obvious, then I like Xingqui and I also figure I can do fire+water combo shit, although I don't really see much damage coming from it.
I also just unlocked them, I was pretty much using Noelle alone before and clearly need more to progress.
Hell, I don't even like any of these chars, I wish I just had Beidou cuz hot
You probably need to level up talents and weapons. Artifact farming is for endgame, focus on the stuff that gives you additional damage without RNG.
Level up Xiangling and Xingqiu burst and skill should give you a lot of damage. Also try to put some energy recharge artifacts so you can burst more often.
There's also no shame in lowering your world level. I did them when Inazuma first came and I did fine.
Also this is a chinese game. Nearly everything relies on levels. Level of your characters, talent levels, weapon levels and so on. If you are mismatched with enemy levels they get a damage reduction.
For instance hitting a level 90 enemy with a level 70 character means they get a 20% or something damage reduction.
If you're not doing enough damage it's because your level is too low, your weapon level is too low or you haven't levelled artifacts and talents.
Focus on Levels, then weapons, then talents, then artifacts.
Levels, weapons and talents are not random are just straight upgrades. Artifact is a gacha in itself and is all random so don't waste resin on it until last.
Put blues, whites, purples whatever artifacts into the characters you're using. Level those artifacts even if they're shit to max.
When you get good gold artifacts you can funnel the old levelled artifacts into the new ones to use their xp. You don't waste much xp doing this either.
At your level the big issue is deciding what characters to level up. Xiangling, Xingqui, Diona, Fischl and Bennett are all worth levelling all the way to 90 and investing in their talents so don't think you're wasting resources levelling those characters. They're used in most good teams at higher levels.
Level up your weapons though. Even the 2 or 3 star ones.
Noelle is pretty based. She heals and damages. Barbara and Fischl will make things really easy for you. You switch to Barb hit e, switch to fischl, hit e then switch back to noelle and unga bunga. They will do damage from off field.
You can also shove XingQui into that comp for 25% extra hp which helps barbara's healing and gives you another off field damage source from XQ's Q which is a great ultimate ability.
>Noelle is pretty based. She heals and damages.
as long as she's C6
C6 makes her good even at end game stuff. But at level 50ish most characters are good. Especially Noelle because she's forgiving with her shield and ability to hit relatively hard with very little investment.
C6 Noelle is basically fem Itto though.
Guess I just need to lvl blue weapons, thanks
Looks sweet, thanks! This world level stuff forced on you is quite awful design
If that's all you've got it's not a big deal to level them up. Some good Blue tier weapons to level and refine are Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers which is used in the end game. You can put that on Barbara or Kokomi if you ever get her. You can give 40% attack to a character with it when you switch to that character from whoever is using thrilling tales.
Harbinger of Dawn is a blue weapon and one of the best swords you can use even up to late level. Don't feel bad levelling this.
Debate Club is almost a staple of levelling. It's one of the best two hander weapons levelling up to 90. Worth investing in.
There aren't many good blue spears so choose whatever but feel free to dump it when you get some purple weapons.
For bows, Raven bow is all right levelling up. So is Slingshot.
Those would be my blue weapon recommendations for you to level.
Its been so long since I just struggled through the early game all I can give you is a chart someone else made.
This is a great chart. Wish I'd had it when levelling.
You have many endgame, burst/artifact-reliant characters, but it's extremely inefficient to farm artifacts at your world level. Xingqiu and Xiangling both suck until you can use their bursts reliably. The uptime on Fischl's off-field damage goes from 50% to 100% if you have enough energy recharge to burst on cooldown.
Try Noelle, Traveler, Fischl, Bennett. Traveler will provide energy for Noelle's burst, and geo resonance gives you lots of buffs while you're shielded. Fischl will provide off-field damage while Noelle is hitting shit, and Bennett is generically good. Like other anons have said, make sure to level up everything.
>Cyno and Venti up at the same time
>50/50
>only got 77 wishes saved up
frick
Neither are good
Save for Nahdia, nipah!
not a pedo, sorry
I will, but first I have to roll her for neat little blooms even if they do 2k damage a pop because she's cute enough.
She better have some fun skills, how long until leaks
considering she's coming in 3.2 I expect leaks about her kit as soon as 3.1 drops
Oh jesus I went on /gig/ to check for anything and it's full of autistic Excel-posters saying Nahida will be shit because her burst needs 80 energy or something. I don't understand those number gays
/gig/ is literally full of fat ugly women posters who post pictures of their nasty veganas as memes it's disgusting
I don't think women would be that autistic about numbers and Abyss optimizing. What a sweaty, stinky place worrying about something you spend thirty minutes on twice a month
abyss stuff is just popularity shit for femcel posters
/gig/ is just for avatarhomosexualry and Abyss autism, you're better off going r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks if you want leaks tbh
same here, I want them both
I hope that'll be the same case as when Eula and Albedo got their first reruns and end up being lucky in getting them both with only like 60 wishes
Venti is a has been
Zhongli is a god turned bourgeoisie moocher.
Another advice I can give to new players is to farm a set of Viridiscent Venerer artifacts and put them on your anemo user and also a Noblesse Oblige set and put them on someone who's not a main damage dealer. Even at purple quality +0 they'll provide substantial buffs just through their 4-set mechanic.
Boys can't be real
What is the first thing that pops into your mind when you see Yelan?
Only genshin character other then Shenhe to make me do a double take everytime. Rosaria was also one, but hers is a tragic tale.
I seriously hope the Cryo Archon is oversized even in comparison to them.
breasts
Her, Kazuha, Raiden and Dendro Traveler all make a good foursome
Overposted hag
Wasted potential
>Personality-wise essentially a female James Bond
>family has mystical connections causing her to have an interest in the Abyss
>marketing sells her as a trite femdom queen and her participation in story quests boils down to Qixing lapdog
Unfortunate
Yelan is hagkino.
quit the game with barely any primos left over, I can't come back for a new unit... such is the life
Bros, I love Collei so much. I want to protect and hug and fug her.
She's 12
Genpedos are sick in the head
>YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE
>WELCOME WELCOME
I like Sumeru, but anticipating the desert more than i did jungle. I hope their Sandstorm mechanic works well.
Also, will there be quicksands?
The only environmental hazard I want is Candice's salty sweat showers.
Still?
Sac Sword and 4pc Noblesse Oblige. Use them to apply dendro so you can do reactions.
for hyperbloom you want the dendro shred set
Why is the music so good?
The musician they got is insanely ambitious. He studied Russian symphonic classics and decided he wants to become the most famous Chinese composer.
>not posting the best theme
They knew this song was mad good since there's a teapot music disc in plain sight when you get to Port Ormos.
For me, it's phase 3 of Azdaha's theme.
>withering zone with a dendroculus next to a daily I did fake 100%'s Ashavan Realm
Nice.
>Still playing this shit in current year
Enjoy your unskippable bland dialog and story telling, your daily chores, your underwhelming 'puzzles' and most of all enjoy farming artifacts for months for a single character
The only correct way to experience Genshin is through Koikatsu and even then
I will, thanks bro!
Post them, your koikatsu hebes and dicky
threadly reminder that genshin is a baby game that you can solo with c0r1, if you are having problems 36*ing with a full team then try equipping artifacts
Still ar45, not going any higher
c2 kazoo is carrying, I'm doing the aranara questline. May take a break from that to deal with the archon quest considering how long that is.
Skipping Cyno.
You're just wasting resources for no reason by not going higher man, what are you doing
I'm lazy
It really doesn't become harder tho, just level it up man
I'M
GONNA
BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>concludes her dance
>gardens across the world explode
I’ve been rolling for Ganyu because I thought she was a good main dps and lost the 50/50. If she’s fallen off as a main dps then which upcoming banner should I use the guarantee on? My only 5 star is a c1 Mona
They hardly, if ever, nerf a character so she will do her DPS, but there are now stronger characters.
Ganyu is a great DPS. She is outclassed by some other DPS particularly Ayaka since Mihoyo loves that character and has built a bunch of new characters around her.
Ganyu though just shines on her own. She can shit out a lot of AoE damage with just charged shots.
If you're a new player you can roll on anyone right now and it won't be a bad choice.
Kokomi will make your levelling life easy because you just heal through everything.
Ganyu will nuke everything and effortlessly deal with most abyss floors.
Or you can wait for the newer characters. Nilou seems like she will be niche. Cyno is an on field electro dps. We don't know if he will be good or not. Kusanali will almost certainly be meta since all the archons are. Most people are saving for her.
Think about what you're struggling with and what you think would fix it. Healing, more damage, dendro reactions etc.
But at the moment you can't really go wrong no matter who you roll for.
>Kokomi will make your levelling life easy because you just heal through everything.
Though I wouldn't recommend rolling her only for healing because you simply don't need a 5* healer in this game. But she is good with Ganyu because Hydro application easily enables freeze.
>you simply don't need a 5* healer in this game
Almost every metric has shown this is false. This may have been the case a year ago. But it just isn't anymore. Nearly everyone who made that case against Kokomi even Mtashed the commander in chief of Kokomi hate, has retracted nearly all his criticism since Kokomi has been shown as meta in every Spiral Abyss for the last 6 months.
The point isn't Kokomi heals, she provides a bunch of other stuff on top of that. You might find a character who can do one or two of the things Kokomi can do but certainly there isn't someone who can roll all of those advantages into one character.
There is really no issue in rolling on Kokomi for new players. In fact especially for them.
>caring about what ecelebs and the "meta" says
XQ is on Ganyu banner right now and anon said he has Mona. He absolutely doesn't need Kokomi.
As great as Kokomi is, for new players I would definitely say Ganyu offers more than she does because MHY has designed everything to be about DPS.
You'll progress and clear stuff far faster with Ganyu than you will with Kokomi honestly. You'll also manage to clear more of Abyss with Ganyu than with Kokomi.
This is all just assuming you have to pick one or the other and you are new. Kokomi is definitely amazing for what she offers but by herself she isn't THAT great while Ganyu actually is amazing by herself.
>Ganyu offers more
I didn't say she didn't. She probably does. But it depends on where your weakness in your roster lies. But my point is that you can't go wrong pulling on either on them. Arguably Kokomi has more long lasting reasons to pull on her since she's core to Ayaka freeze and will likely be core for Dendro hyper bloom reaction teams in the future.
Ganyu meanwhile probably doesn't have that future proofing but she's a great character who will carry your account just as much.
But otherwise I totally agree with you.
>caring about what excelebs and the "meta" says
Yes. Caring about the meta to see what characters are useful in the only endgame genshin has is important. In addition when one of the people arguably most at fault for the hatred of Kokomi in the game, changes his tune it's worth noting.
>he has Mona
Mona is not a Kokomi replacement. It's the other way around.
>XQ is on Ganyu banner.
He's on both banners...
>Caring about the meta to see what characters are useful in the only endgame genshin has is important.
But you should also turn your brain on and figure out why a character is used, and assume supports will always see more usage because your teams are 1 main DPS + 3 supports, and you need two teams for Abyss.
Assuming he has no other 5* outside Mona right now, the obvious choice would be getting Ganyu for DPS, not another fricking Hydro support especially when he has a chance to roll XQ while wishing for Ganyu.
Kokomi is good, but I don't like suggesting her or even Zhong to new players both on an interest level and on a muh numbers level. It might be harder to stay interested if your first big 5* is a healer or shielder instead of a neat DPS.
I've never considered that. I guess it could be the case. Although when I was mid way like AR 25 to 30 and really struggling with enemies I would have loved a Zhong or Kokomi to carry my team through.
But I can totally see that argument.
You still have a point. I got Qiqi'd on Zhong's banner and never dropped her throughout all of that early exploration even when I got hit by Zhong later on his first run and I only leveled+used him later with Albedo. Although Childe riptiding groups of mobs carried a lot of that interest before the geos.
Sauce, pretty please
Cosplayer is Byoru.
you don't need to roll on kokomi, but you do need to grab hydro characters since almost every good team comp needs at least 1 but there's only 2 4-stars
XQ being on kokomi's banner means you can potentially grab 2 hydros
Yeah this is pretty much my point. Ganyu is a great character and works nearly everywhere as a DPS. Kokomi though has futureproofing because she's one of the best Hydro appliers in the game which will always be useful.
You can't go wrong on either banner imo.
The fact it's full of amazing 4 stars really helps too. Theses are the banners I'd be rolling on a bunch if I just started.
I'm not sure I agree. Mono Hydro is a very powerful team. You're likely to pull sucrose on the banner which is basically one of the best pulls for it. You can drive teams with Kokomi pretty well which is why Sukokomon uses her as a driver.
You seem to think I'm saying Ganyu is a worse pull than Kokomi. But I'm not. I'm saying both are good pulls and you can pull on either banner and get a 5 star that will carry your account. Kokomi arguably having more long term usage because of her jack of all trades kit.
What would a mono hydro look like? XQ, Mona, Kokomi and Barbara until I can get a good hydro dps? I guess Mona would be main dps in that until I land a replacement?
Don't listen to the gay. A mono Hydro team is not worth pullying Kokomi right now when you could have Ganyu and play freeze.
That said, relevant Hydro units are Yelan, Xingqiu, Kokomi and Tartaglia. Mona doesn't really find much use if she cannot get a reaction out of her burst.
So mono hydro is Kokomi as the driver, Yelan, XQ and Kazuha or Sucrose. People forget but Kokomi actually deals reasonable damage on her burst. But it requires building for it with a specific artifact set that isn't great to farm for. But she can do it. She's used this way in Sukokomon too which run Kokomi as a driver with Sucrose, Fischl and Xiangling.
That's a good choice. Ganyu is a great character and she'll carry your account for sure.
For you if you did pull Kokomi I'd run her, Mona, XQ and Sucrose.
It's pretty braindead. You run everyone's E and Q with Sucrose being last, then switch out to Kokomi, Q for damage then when her Q runs out, slap down E to cover for the other character while you need to build energy, then repeat.
A well build Kokomi can shit out 10k+ normals without crit. Also she's dogshit easy to build for because you just want HP and ER stats on any set you build for her since she doesn't use crit. You can also funnel stats with crit to other characters as off pieces from wherever you're farming, either Tenacity for freeze enabling/support or Clam for driver Kokomi.
You can see someone running mono hydro in this clip someone posted above.
Thanks for the advice. I think I’m gonna push for Ganyu since I have Mona and she doesn’t do enough to be a good main dps. The question becomes who do I use as a healer since I only have 4 star options. I have a c2 Dori, c5 Barbara, c0 Noelle. I heard shields are good since Ganyu wants to sit in her burst but Noelle seems like the weakest option at c0.
No idea how Dori is for healing but probably better than Barbara as she also gives energy. As for shielding the only really good options are Zhongli and Diona and if you lack either I wouldn't worry too much about it for now,.
Noelle can shield and heal but she needs quite some investment to be decent at healing but her shield has really poor uptime, wouldn't recommend unless you really like her (at C6 she can also be a really good DPS).
>The question becomes who do I use as a healer since I only have 4 star options. I have a c2 Dori, c5 Barbara, c0 Noelle. I heard shields are good since Ganyu wants to sit in her burst but Noelle seems like the weakest option at c0.
A good support option for Ganyu is Diona because:
>her E is a shield, it inflicts Cryo, makes you move faster and generates 3 cryo particles(in case you don't know, particles of your own element recharge your energy much faster)
>her Q doubles as damage and healing AoE
>having two cryo characters will give you +15% crit rate on enemies affected by cryo
But for now you might want both Barbara and Noelle.
Noelle is technically a healer too but you need to attack her to regenerate HP stealing field time from Ganyu.
She's still a good main DPS. You should ignore tier lists for Abyss of all fricking things, especially if you are just starting out and have like no 5* to begin with. As far as Cryo DPS goes, she's second best and the gap between her and Ayaka is only really noticable when being ann esport gay in Abyss.
If you like any of the upcoming ones just roll and try to make them work. Your roster will be a bit behind anyway. Otherwise you can go for 5* supports first and then just build your way backwards (like if you want to skip straight to dendro archon or something). We're in a weird spot where they're rerunning more even when dropping new banners usually so you should have plenty of choice, but maybe too much.
Tried playing on my samsung s10 but couldn't run faster than like 15 fps. Seems like I would have liked it, though.
I liked Genshin even though the designs are rather mediocre but I'm just really tired of the quest grind and the 'login to claim your daily reward!' bullshit, wish Nintendo wasn't stuck in the last century.
Stop stealing, gay!
>he doesn't know
Leave him alone, he wants to have incest sex with his sister
Bros... Why did they make Collei so rapeable?
Why does a traumatized rape victim show off so much skin?
She's in the midst of puberty
have you ever actually met a rape victim? 90% of the time they turn into hyperbawds because of it. it warps their whole brain and makes them want to be raped again and again and again, wearing more revealing clothing and putting themselves in situations where men will take advantage. many victims even seek out their rapist to frick him again, imagining themselves as "taking back power"
tl;dr women are insane and moronic
I work in a psych ward and promise you this isn't remotely true
Yeah, thankfully I don’t know any rape victims but I thought it was pretty well documented that they wear very conservative shit like heavy sweaters. Then again I got this knowledge from silent hill 2.
There was this one patient who constantly felt unclean that she bathed 5 times a day and scrubbed until she started bleeding, mind you this is a more extreme case but there were plenty of people who ended up with lifelong depression and substance abuse with history of sexual abuse
This is rich coming from a basement dweller on Ganker's board for video games
>This is rich coming from a basement dweller on Ganker's board for video games
projecting incel LARPer confirmed lmao.
Goddamn, that’s pretty frickin bad. Yeah, thankfully, I don’t know anyone who went through that, and hopefully I never will.
>i work with the 0.01% literally psychotic population and muh anecdote
try interacting with the general population sometime, moron. every single loose girl you ever meet (like 20% of the entire female population) has a rape story.
I've been using Xiao in the world for almost a year, he's become another Kazuha in my team. They need to start adding more characters with fun movement
Based Xiao enjoyer. I never see anyone talk about him, probably less than any other 5 star. He needs more love.
>I never see anyone talk about him
popular characters fall under three categories
1. this character is top tier powerful in the meta
2. i want to frick this character
3. i want to be this character
xiao as a gay emo twink with middle of the road dps doesn't really fall under any of these for the vast majority of players. there's nothing wrong with xiao, he's just kind of whatever.
>there's nothing wrong with xiao,
there absolutely is, his autistic jumping gameplay is annoying and ever sane player switches off him after a while just because its moronic
>He doesn't like going edgelord pogo mode and spamming jump until everything is dead
>autistic jumping gameplay
as opposed to kazuha who does the same thing just not as frequently but everyone loves and considers t0 meta support/subdps?
yes, Kazuha jump is actually cool and gathers enemies
Xiao is autistic and nauseating
He isn't a bad dps either, its just that he has no proper "meta" around it and this makes the metagay mad. He is good on its own and versatile. Could also be his spam dive combat but I like to believe its metagays seething as usual
memes aside, do people actually play these games? i thought they were just an excuse for hentai waifus
You can literally scroll up and read posts about people talking about the gameplay in the game
The game is cool but honestly it's very easy outside of one last floor of an entirely optional DPS challenge. And even that is not difficult but requires you to build characters properly as opposed to throw whatever you have and shit on everything like you do in the overworld.
I mean this one is more like a normal adventure game. Usually gachas are just some kind of gay autobattler that you "play" on a phone. Now other developers are hopping on the bandwagon trying to make their own open world game with gacha slapped on
See that mountain? You can climb it
Unfortunately yes
what do you mean by "these games"? genshin is only one game and there isn't another f2p mobile game remotely like it. it plays like a huge single player open world exploration game.
What's your favorite hub town? Mine is Mondstadt.
>visually pleasing
>all of the most important shops are in one area, minimizing the need to run around constantly
>minimizing the need to run around constantly
I know the feel. That's why whenever I want to use things like crafting, forging, adventurer's guild etc. I teleport to Mondstadt even if you could do it in any other town.
I just go to whatever town is the closest to where I am, or to my teapot. Can't really decide which one is the nicest visually
Who here managed to play the game and get everything they wanted without paying because they aren't lucklets?
I buy Welkins, much better use of my entertainment shekels than buying games on Steam that I'll never play
>he wastes more than 0$ for entertainment
A McBurger a month is chump change
If it's more than literally 0 you are tarded.
ok poorgay
>only justification ever is "y-you are poor"
moronic. Enjoy your sunk cost
He pays a sub fee for a single player game. He is a special person, go easy on him
If $5 is too much for a game you pay daily, you're destitute, possibly a favela monkey
Everyone who is rich are that way because they're frugal with their money. And of course, their children inherit their fortunes and piss it all away cause they weren't frugal.
You aren't getting rich by saving $5 a month
Excuse me? If he saves $5 a month for 50 years he’d have $3,000! That’s THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!
By then those $3000 would be worth like $400
You invest your money into things like property. The earlier you do that, the better.
I already own a 100 acre farm, I'm good thanks
I'm that $5 a month will help anon with a $60k down payment
You're low IQ and intellectually dishonest. Think harder, and you'll understand why billionaires value frugality in all aspects of their lives.
Worrying about spending $5 a month on a hobby isn't being frugal, that's just poverty
>worrying
Nobody is worried, we just think you are moronic.
>He calls a chinese slot machine a hobby to cope for the fact that he's subbing to a single player game
ahahahaahahahaahahahahaahaha
Are you unironically trying to push billionaire grindset bullshit?
That's usually what poorgays do to make themselves feel better
Jeff Bezos drive an Accord, he's totaly just like me fr!
I didn't get C1 Yelan but otherwise yeah
Hebes
Lick hebes
Lick hebes where
Everywhere. Especially Collei's back and dicky
>that team
completely soulless
3/4 of those characters were considered shit on release, and overload is still considered a meme reaction
4/4 of those characters were memed BEFORE release, and considered 11/10 god meta immediately after actually using them.
Xiangling was meta even in the CBT
>overload is still considered a meme reaction
It's a shame Overload is still treated like it was on launch where the main reason people hate it is because of the knockback, not the damage it does. As someone that's been running Yoimiya+Fischl a lot lately, it's definitely underrated and the knockback even when mobs aren't immune is grossly exaggerated in how bad it is. Vape is obviously still going to be better but the difference isn't as big as people think assuming you have some EM on Yoimiya in the first place.
Juggling enemies with Yoimiya + Fischl is fun
Guys, guys there’s a new amazing leak. The dendro archon is a support.
Frick, the leakers are serious dumbasses that this is all they had.
Okay, what timed event should I be rushing now to not miss stuff?
I am doing the treasure hunt in Sumeru, finished 2nd one.
Am I gonna make it? It states it has only 6 treasure areas, so should be doable within 3 days?
All the current running events are completely unlocked so you can complete them all in like 30 minutes.
They are all surprisingly quick
You can do the treasure hunting and combat event in like an hour
the treasure areas take maybe 5-10 minutes apiece depending on how casual you are and how much of the map and waypoints you already have unlocked. the combat event can be done in ~30 minutes total? i forget how long the timers are but I think they're 3-4 minutes each.
>gays saying you can get every character as f2p
>not mentioning that you'd have to wait years for reruns
>the amount of possible obtainable primogems doesn't even add up unless you get an entire banner every 40 pulls or something like that
I like GI but holy shit gachagays are beyond deluded, I will just assume its SEAnigs since they love gachas so much
>the amount of possible obtainable primogems doesn't even add up
If you count dailies+events+exploration+quests, yes, it does add up. Also every character you want =/= every character.
>you should pay to get all characters
yup, beyond deluded
To get them faster*
But you don't need all characters and only half of them are 5*
you going to pay to get all the weapons too even though you'll likely only use 4 of them? lmao. I guess you'd lose all your money in some tcg because you gotta have every single card too
Not gonna pay anything but yes, being able to use evey possible weapon, character would be way better
>tcg
false equivalence, card games are for gays anyways
lmao you're so dumb
>gacha dicksucker calls me dumb
I accept your concession
>seething xir copes with being BTFO by namecalling, flipping the table and claiming victory
lol
>gachagay cope
indeed I accept your concession
>entering a thread about a game xir is already angry about
>getting xir's festering fecal-smelling axe wound obliterated
>screeching, coping and dilating in response
clockwork
lmao i'm f2p with 130 rolls saved right now because I'm not a collect everything autist like you
If you hate it so much why even enter a thread about it
Because I can like a game without liking the slot machine in it?
Seethe and dilate troony
>troony
no thanks I dont wanna be a woman
>need between up tp 160 pulls to get a 5*
>on average between 70 and 140
>all possible freemogems in between banners barely cover them
it doesn't
Again it's enough to get characters you want but not ALL characters on every single banner. Also you are assuming worst case scenario.
>worst case scenario
worst case is max pity yet I gave the average, one of them being in case you failed 50/50. Once again, even if you never failed 50/50, its not enough to cover them
if you go into it with the mindset you must get everything then you're moronic anyway
>>gays saying you can get every character as f2p
starting now? you won't get every character within the next 1.5-2 years. i've been playing since day 1 and spent zero dollars, and have every single character except for tignhari because I just didn't like him and also because he's on the standard banner and I'll get him eventually without spending my precious primo hoard.
FRICK YOU!
I'm building Rosaria.
Rosaria is pretty good, build her
If I'm using Rosaria as ayaka sub dps what artifact set should I use? Some people say Blizz or Eosf for damage but wouldn't noblesse be better for buffing?
It's a 20% atk buff, if you don't have enother Noblesse user on the team it's worth using
Does rosaria do a lot of damage that I'm sacrificing a lot to run noblesse? Or is her damage kind of eh and it's not a big loss do you think?
She does a decent bit of damage, but nothing too crazy if you aren't melting
Personally I'd just use whatever has better substats
she's ok, don't listen to tiergays
no frick YOU, I'm going to build Kaeya and you can't stop me
They brough in the big guns
One more day and you get that chest.
If you want to try all character that badly, may I remind you the existence of Grasscutter?
>kuki as a trial character
>no dendro support
Why would they do this to her?
i forgot how shinobu even plays. wasn't she basically electro barbara?
She was Electro Qiqi with better uptime on her healing, then Dendro came out and turned her into a hyperbloom carry
genshin looks better than botw yes but its ALL style no substance
also pedo game
>pedo game
there's not even a hint of pedophilia in this game, and if you see pedophilia in this game it's because you are a pedophile.
>pedo game
one of the few redeemable qualities, and may I remind you zelda has you running around with link dressing like a bawd
So, is Genshin fun as a F2P game without any cash injection? Or it's like Skylanders, where you cant do big chunk of stuff without spending money or getting real lucky?
you can do everything in this game as f2p except perhaps the last floors of the spiral abyss, which is an optional monthly minmax dps arena for a handful of free primogems.
Abyss can be 36* as F2P but you need to be properly geared with weapons, artifacts and a solid rotation.
I think you would struggle to find even a handful of totally f2p players who have ever 36* the abyss, let alone do it consistently.
f2p have been consistently 36 starring the Abyss for well over a year now, it only gets easier the longer you play
>f2p have been consistently 36 starring the Abyss for well over a year now
yea like four of them.
More like 4 million. Abyss isn't very hard
36 star abyss clear rate is less than 1% of active players. it takes months of autistic artifact grinding to gear two parties to the point where you can do it, and this is a very casual game where the almost total majority of players simply don't care about that.
You don't need top tier artifacts to clear the Abyss
show us your f2p mediocre artifact 36 star abyss clear team
You at very least need the correct main stats and usable substats.
That's not al that hard to get after a while. And it's even easier now because you can just farm Emblem for most characters and throw the bad artifacts into the new strongbox
Just farm Emblem for Xingqiu and you'll get Crimson Witch artifacts for Hu Tao for free
>inb4 doesn't count
>a bunch of out of context character sheets
post an actual screenshot of your 36 star clear with these teams you lying moron.
I cleared it even faster with stronger characters since then, I posted it earlier in this thread
But just for you I'll do it again in 2 days
Probably has more than what you think and way less than what the other anon thinks. The difference between gacha characters and starting characters is vast so I expect full f2p players to take more time farming for better artifacts to compensate. The game itself isnt hard and its mostly about numbers and minmaxing
It depends on which characters they have.
Assume that national(Xiangling, Xingqiu and Bennett) can carry at least one team, that leaves 2 main DPS chars and 3 more supports that aren't exactly so hard to get.
You can do everything in the game as f2p, including the last floors of the Abyss
If you want to perfect clear those last floors there are plenty of guides for f2ps
Its fun depending what you are looking for, story, combat, exploration is decent, dailies and artifact farming are objectively boring. You can enjoy stuff without ever pulling anything but the game does get better the more characters you have given they allow you to try new combinations and combat styles
Should I get Viridescent Hunt for Yoimiya from the BP?
She kinda lacks AoE.
R5 Rust is her 2nd BIS, not far behind Thundering Pulse
For AoE pair her with Fischl
I have no 5 star weapon, at all.
I currently run her with Hamayumi.
>36 star the abyss first time
I'm proud of myself bwos.
Good job Noelle bro