I beat Dark Souls for the first time last night, it wasn't that difficult. Why is this parroted as one of the hardest games ever made?
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I beat Dark Souls for the first time last night, it wasn't that difficult.
idk it kicked my ass pretty hard though. really fun game. i should give dark souls 2 another try as i got bored by the time i got to the castle with the giga elephants guarding it
The initial learning curve was a bit rough but once I started to play slow there were only a few areas that gave me any serious trouble. The archers in Anor Londo and the wheel skeletons in the Catacombs come to mind.
>the wheel skeletons in the Catacombs
I both love and hate those homies like you wouldn't believe
>mfw being low health in the painted world, finding a secret door, and seeing two wheel skellies burst through it as it's barely faded straight into my already fractured ass
I ended up missing the Painted World on my first playthrough, the Crestfallen Warrior only mentioned something about curling into a ball in NG+ and it took me forever to figure out how to reach the bird nest. Dumb wheel skeletons sure were a surprise... Especially since the frickers hit even harder than on a fresh save file.
There were plenty of difficult games, the ones that
mentioned are just a few. Hell I remember people shitting themselves over Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 despite that game being the most accessible entry.
eh, skip it. Go to DS3 - it's the best of the trilogy in terms of pure gameplay.
I played DS2 last and didn't really have fun the entire way through and glad it was over. came back to it a year later and for some reason it clicked and now it's my favorite DS game
>beat the game for the first time in 2024
you didn't beat the game
At the time it was released there weren't many difficult games coming out
Catherine, La Mulana, Isaac, Super Meat Boy were all released the same year and are all significantly harder. I'd even say games like Uncharted on their highest difficulties are harder. Terraria was also released the same year and had harder boss fights
Dark souls can be easy or hard just by chance with how you decide to approach the game where as something like smb will be the same level of difficulty for everyone
I found smb to be much easier than dark souls
Unless you play like an absolute moron I have no idea how you'd ever find SMB easier.
SMB demands more precision and higher reflexes in pretty much any scenario that isn't SL1 fist only
The fact that the punishment for dying in smb is so small it’s practically non existent is reason enough for it to be considered easier
and dark souls wasnt one of them either
sweaty try hard
>and dark souls wasnt one of them either
Name 10 harder games from 2011.
You didn't beat the game.
you gotta play with no magic, shields, ranged, op weapons, op armor, items besides estus, kindling, or summoning.
>Why is this parroted as one of the hardest games ever made
game "journos" being shit at games and people that dont play Souls parroting them.
>play game blind
>no issues at all
>'bro you didnt beat it! You goota actively handicap yourself bro!!
Because people back then were playing piss easy AAA games, I imagine they were trying out DS1 after playing skyrim and were shocked at how "le hard xDD" it was and how it didn't hand hold etc.
Marketing
Came out at the peak of casualization
People who are bad at video games
It was back in the day.
The only bosses I struggled with were Ornstein and Smough
>he didn't play the unpatched 2011 console version
didn't beat the game
What are the main notable differences between the launch/initial version and Remastered? I've been curious about this.
there are yt videos about that
Then type what those videos say
no
ok
npcs have more aggro range and drop a lot less souls. bosses dont drop homeward bones. that's basically it
I played it unpatched my first playthrough and it had more soul and more challenge. It was kinda bullshit at moments but I don’t care, I still prefer it
A couple differences I remember from unpatched:
>silver knight sword had electricity hit effect, idk if it actually did lightning damage
>lightning seemed even more powerful in unpatched
>ghosts and skeletons don’t drop souls
>lower soul gain in general
>non-respawning enemies aren’t guaranteed to drop their items
>dark wood grain ring worked if you were under 50% equip load instead of 25%
>couldn’t purchase twinkling titanite anywhere, among other limitations to what you could buy
>semi-invisible enemy npcs in darkroot garden would respawn upon reloading and couldn’t be locked onto
>boss death displays “you defeated” instead of “victory achieved” (even after patch, the x360 version still said you defeated tho)
>amazingly, the performance in blightown was even worse pre-patch
>killing ornstein would make him immediately drop the Leo ring, even if smough still lived; I think you could farm Leo rings this way
>fewer bosses dropped humanity and homeward bones
>I think there was a difference in how severing boss tails and collecting their items worked, but I don’t remember for sure
>load screens would sometimes display the wrong item descriptions; e.g. it would show miracle “seek guidance” but display the description for “lightning spear”
Some boss weapons were also way more powerful, in particular the crystal ring shield. When patched it went from stupidly strong if a bit unwieldy to being pretty bad.
A few other changes that I remember.
>Curse effect can stack, halving your hp each time
>Message indicating how to remove curse did not exist
>Undead merchant in aqueduct did not sell purging stones
>Level up menu did not show souls required for level up
>Humanity did not increase item drop rates
>Lower drop rates in general
>Dusk of Oolacile's skirt had stupidly high stats for some reason
>You could sell prism stones to Frampt for 100 souls despite being able to buy them for 10
>Crystal Ring Shield was probably the best weapon but got nerfed hard
>Strong magic shield made you invincible
>No warps to the depths, undead parish, painted world, tomb of the giants and duke's archives
>Couldn't parry out of a block
>He used flasks, weapons and armor
You didn't beat the game
>beat DS1 remastered on PC
>didn't bother with original DS1 and just continue up to ER
anon... i don't feel so good
Idk I first beat the game back in 2012 I think, and I remember getting fricked pretty bad back then. I've never played a game like that before and just getting through undead burg was suffering.
I get that if you played similar games before that it could be pretty easy, I for instance played Bloodborne for the first time like 2 months ago, and aside from learning how to use controller in the beginning it was absurdly easy to me because I finished every other From game several times.
Self imposed limit. Try a fat roll low vigor run. Weapon? Crossbow obviously.
This was the cod era. Kids had forgotten about arcades and PC's and had grown up on incredibly easy games where losing some progress was among the hardest things you could do.
>I beat dark souls
>most likely upgraded, played offline, and used the halberd
You didn't beat dark souls.
>this game was ez with over a decades worth of wiki entries for me to follow
Americans are fat, slow and stupid so every game that is not dumbed down seems difficult to them.
Dark Souls being the hardest game ever is mostly a meme
It was pretty difficult for it's time and it did birth the whole "souls like genre", but even in comparison to later from software game it's not too hard
You're 13 years late to the party, beat Sekiro on Ng+7 with DB/-KC and then come here to boast.
t. 14 year olds with no sense of self-worth other than the idea that they play hard videogames
Name one achievement in your life on par with that homosexual
>inb4 deflection
Having a job, getting married and having children
>Oh boy can't wait to make shekels for Mr. Goldberg
>Oh boy can't wait to dedicate 80% of my paycheck to frivolous woman nonsense each week
>Oh boy can't wait to have my spawn steal everything I own when I die
Lol
Yeah I'll take beating Malenia fists only at RL1 thanks
>empty insult
And you call others pathetic.
we are in a board about video games so yes, here i will feel superior about it, cope harder
because the people that claim is hard have never played any action game before and are also brain dead
The game isn't "hard" in terms of mechanical skill, it's just punishing of thoughtless and careless play. The moronic journalists who we unfortunately allow to form the narratives surrounding games didn't care enough to distinguish the difference.
It was zoomer's first experience with a game that demands you actually learn how to play it.
99% of NES games are harder than Dark Souls
>99% of NES games are harder than Dark Souls
Factually true, but this comment really makes no sense and misses the point.
I started a new playthrough last week and it's kind of crazy to me that I can throw down a sign for Quelaag and still get summoned within a couple minutes.
People tend to want to replay good games
So you fell for the "le hard prepare to die" marketing. Don't worry even fromsoft fell for it and now they only care about making hard games and not good ones
It's not a hard game. I was saying this back in 2011 when it came out. It's simply a game with no easy mode and no hand holding 2 hour tutorial so it filtered a lot of plebs at the time. The game was simply a moderately challenging game that demanded a bit of patience and a some observation skills from the player. The whole "OMG IT'S SO HARD" thing was a meme. The marketing team also ran with it and released then "Prepare to Die" edition. israelitetubers made a bunch of death compilations of them dying like morons. It's just a big fricking meme. It influenced Fromsoft to make their games harder and harder and I think this was a mistake. Instead of "tough but fair" encounters the goal seems to be "lol let's crush the players" now with shit like Malenia.
>harder and harder and I think this was a mistake.
I agree with this. They learned the wrong lessons from its success and it shows in the sequels. Pity they sell imo.
>tough but fair
DS1 is anything but fair and if you don't think Malenia is fair you're a drooling moron
The most moronic post I have read in a long while. Congrats anon.
You're the moron. DS1 is the textbook definition of unfair. 90% of the deaths and overall struggle in the game is due to either shitty trap deaths or the game just not explaining shit to you.
Compare to Malenia who can be staggered with hyperarmor occasionally to prevent R1 spam, clear telegraphs, etc. The one thing that could be considered unfair is Waterfowl but that's less unfair and more using your brain to figure out how to dodge/minimize damage from it, unlike in DS1 where you'll die to a trap and then just know to avoid it next time so it's ultimately just a waste of time.
Not to say DS1 is a bad game. It's morons like you who emphasize and put "LE HARD BUT FAIR" on some pinnacle of difficulty design as if it's the only thing you should be considering (and you can't even get the definition right). Sometimes being unfair and shitty is fine depending on what you're aiming for.
morons thinking that just because the game punishes you for being a moron or being ass is the hardest shit ever.
You guys ever wonder why the cover for Dark Souls 1 has a guy wearing armor from Dark Souls 2, wielding a sword from Dark Souls 3, surrounded by armors from Demon's Souls?
It's Artorias going into the abyss so it's long before the events of DS1.
That looks nothing like Artorias.
Nah it's him. It's his sword and shield and he's famous for being left-handed too.
Looks more like going into New Londo without curses
Is he walking toward or away from us?? The sword is in his left hand
its supposed to be artorias
now do as I did and immediately play Scholar of the First Sin.
that's when they embraced the difficult meme.
also to the DS2 team, 'difficult' means
>put down a shitload of hazards
>put in groups of enemies scripted so they can't be pulled a few at a time
>Go for it lol
Never played DS2. This screams post O&S part of DS though and I absolutely hated those isolated islands of bullshit.
>muh slippery crystals
>This screams post O&S part of DS though and I absolutely hated those isolated islands of bullshit.
Filtered. Last half of Dark Souls 1 is the crème de la crème of souls content. Filtered millions.
>Last half of Dark Souls 1 is the crème de la crème of souls content.
Said nobody, ever, other than you for contrarian points.
People who say "the last half of Dark Souls 1 is bad" are moronic NPCs that repeat shit they hear. You and your family are worthless little plebs.
If your whole schtick is "the rest says it is bad, so I'm going to claim it is good", with no thought given to the matter, then you're simply a posturing asshat, kiddo.
>Last half of Dark Souls 1 is the crème
Bamco please.
>pic related
moron.
Filtered.
Can you actually elaborate and give us your reasoning in its defense, or do you hide behind petty Ganker rhetoric? Deflections and "le filtered" retorts aren't actual arguments, they're cowardice.
You were filtered. What is there to elaborate on?
What shitty death traps from DS1 are you referring to?
Do people really consider DS2 much harder than DS1? For me they are about the same. For me Bloodborne is where the game started getting actually hard. And then DS3 was a bit easier than Bloodborne, but then ER came out and it's the hardest Fromsoft game to date.
Mainstream AAA games were mostly trending towards casualization when Dark Souls came out. Dark Souls was popular enough to be influential and thus AAA games started becoming more challenging again (or at least gave the option). Also there weren't as many indie games back then. Also Fromsoft's games have become more and more challenging in order to keep veterans engaged.
It's a good marketing ploy
>Why is this parroted as one of the hardest games ever made?
I've wondered this before, given it's less difficult than the average of many "old" games. 33% zoomers and others who have never played actually hard games, 33% average streamer plebs, and 33% memes. Nowadays it's enough not to have difficulty options for something to get called IMPOSSIBLE. It's pretty funny.
the only thing that made dark souls difficult was the framerate on ps3
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It was difficult like 12 years ago
you're just too good
can i suck your dick?
I don't know why either. It wasn't that Dark Souls was punishingly difficult, it was that it respected the player's intelligence and expected them to be paying attention to what was happening on the screen. That's literally it.
test.
DS1 difficulty is outdated the modern souls games are much faster and harder with bosses who have multiple phases it's not 2011.
I really wish the difficulty meme would go the frick away. Every criticism about these games seem to be based around this in some way when it was never what made the games appealing in the first place.
It just feels good to play a game that lets you explore and use some critical thinking to overcome challenges and uncover a story without holding your hand like you're in a theme park utterly unable to use your brain without the games help. Fromsoft manages to do this while creating interesting worlds that you want to explore and decent boss fights that give you a sense of scale and accomplishment after you beat it.