Palworld devs copied a frickton of pokemon for their creatures, whether just ripping off the general concept/design or actually copying assets.
It's been a source of drama for about a week now.
The hilarious thing about this narrative is that Game Freak has the resources to expand it's team and has had plenty of time to do so. This problem has been going on for well over a decade. This isn't some small developer that was thrust into success on an early access and has to decide whether to invest in exanding it's team when they've only got one game to stand on and might not last long enough for that investment to pay off.
Pokemon is one of the biggest juggernauts in the gaming industry but Game Freak has been content to just rake in the cash because as their games get lazier and lazier they still keep making record sales since everyone buys the new pokemon game regardless, sucks on pokeballs, and then complains after the fact.
The Pokemon Company is so amazing, I can't believe god plagiarised dogs equines birds and turtles off them and populated our world with them. Nintendo needs to sue the pope now.
>datamines >reveals old placeholder art for lunaris
palworld could sue the guy for revealing company information
but he doesn't realize that, just like that moron that tried to hide pokemon mod behind a paywall.
fricking morons all of them.
>just like that moron that tried to hide pokemon mod behind a paywall.
holy grifting
and then they literally try to accuse palworld of the same crime they themselves are committing
They already are. A recent survey of AAA game devs revealed that the majority of them are already using AI tools in their workflow, or are working on developing & implementing them. The big guys obviously aren't just going to use the free shit online, they're going to train their own models on whatever their "style" is.
Man, and i'm losing any opportunities i had to ever design creatures to literal npcs with a magic art machine that do nothing but copy already existing pokepaldigimons
The pal is legitimately closer to this thing than the mewtwo mega the twittard is comparing it to. I'm not even sure you can consider the black thing even a copy of the mewtwo considering the obvious differences it has.
I remember there was a period of time where LoL or Dota 2 would release a new champion and then the other game would release a similar looking champion. Nobody cared as much as pokegays do now
I remember there was a period of time where LoL or Dota 2 would release a new champion and then the other game would release a similar looking champion. Nobody cared as much as pokegays do now
>Come on Ganker >Literally more than half the board is Palworld filled with HEHEHAHA TENDIES BWHAHAHA >Wow, did you reply to me? This is literally rape, how sensitive are you?
It really is a strange coincidence that so many animals on Earth have fur, four legs, two eyes, a nose, and a tail. Like, what are the odds of that? Cmon, that shit was on purpose.
>scaled to fit
wow so he shrunk or enlarged the model... that definitely changes the shape and structure of the model. do these morons not realize the palworld devs could have literally just taken a pokemon model and change the size themselves
you do understand what scaling a model means, right? he admitted to scaling the models because if you rip the palworld model and the pokemon model they'll be different sizes because the palworld creature is bigger or something. but it still has the same shape and design. nowhere does he say "yea i faked everything and they actually aren't rip offs and it's all a lie." you are actually really stupid it seems
Are you blind or moronic? It's clearly an accurate mesh of the Pokemon, resized for comparison. He's saying it's not "exactly" the same down to every polygon, but it doesn't have to be to be considered plagiarism.
he literally says its uniformly.
can you not read?
if a take a picture of mario, and scale it uniformally smaller, that doesnt mean it isnt mario.
now if i made his hat taller, his feet massive, torso nearly non existant, hands feakisly different sizes, etc, then it would be scaled non uniformaly, and u could get to a point that even in court it may not hold up.
but if its purely all at the same proportions, just smaller/larger all together? then yeah, thats fine.
(I also prefer the palworld versions 75% of the time)
>nintendies defending a liar just to feel outraged
I cant imagine being such a worthless piece of shit for cartoon animals and a billion dollar company
you do understand what scaling a model means, right? he admitted to scaling the models because if you rip the palworld model and the pokemon model they'll be different sizes because the palworld creature is bigger or something. but it still has the same shape and design. nowhere does he say "yea i faked everything and they actually aren't rip offs and it's all a lie." you are actually really stupid it seems
>"if someone deliberately withheld the facts, you should probably trust everything they say"
Remind me to never get lost in a shopping mall with you, or we might starve to death.
so you're just a dumb shill who doesn't understand scaling then, got it. thank you for the conversation sar
4 months ago
Anonymous
>morons like you jump down his throat over split hairs like "THE MESH ISNT THE SAME SIZE" >that means he lied about everything
have a nice day
No, no, it's you who doesn't have a shred of critical thinking. >he thinks scaling is LITERALLY scaling >why would someone go on the internet and lie?
How do you turbo hyper autistic morons even manage to stay alive?
that wasnt withholding the facts.
If i said "i was well dressed at the party", and someone says they hated my top hat, and i respond with, "well technically the hat was barely off in color from the rest of the outfit" thats not withholding the facts, thats just someone trying to nitpick, and im just barely trying to entertain their counter argument, when in reality theres no need to, because it doesnt change the events stated.
Even if he didnt withhold evidence, im not going to just believe him. but your argument is just as stupid in this case.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm not going to blindly believe the obvious liar who tried to trick people into believing him >believes that whatever that guy said is true, because it's convenient to his own arguments
Again, how do you manage to stay alive while being this brain dead?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Looks like you're sucking on your own balls.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>absolutely mind broken
Go be autogynephilic somewhere else, fraggot
4 months ago
Anonymous
you clearly didnt read what i just wrote, i said i wouldnt believe him either.
also, you claim he lied, but cant provide evidence.
the best you guys have, is twisting his words.
im not believing either of you. if you want me to believe your side, stop twisting words, and provide evidence. attacking his character doesnt mean he did or didnt lie. because the reason of a lie isnt what ppl are interested in, but if the artists did, or did not rip the assets, which is unrelated to this guy.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>"if someone lied, you should not question what they say after"
literal npc behavior >provide evidence
The guy lied, He dig his own grave and lost all credibility and good faith.
Shouldn't have lied in the first place, anon.
4 months ago
Anonymous
show m proof he lied. (he may have, im just saying, fricking prove it, instead of repeating bullshit)
It's been 3 days since the asset theft accusations were admitted to be fake and there are STILL tendies clinging to it in every thread. You can't make this shit up bruh.
because you guys dont know what "scaling uniformly" means... if you understood what that meant, u would feel moronic.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>show proof >pls proof >give me proof
Are you sure you want proof, which is plenty posted itt alone or are you just trying to damage control?
Honestly, that guy should just delete his profile.
He will never be a famous influencer now
it's over for him
lmao
lol
4 months ago
Anonymous
>believe what he said
What is there to disbelieve you gigantic moron? You can see with your own eyes that the mesh matches the Pokemon and the ripoff.
Are you blind or moronic? It's clearly an accurate mesh of the Pokemon, resized for comparison. He's saying it's not "exactly" the same down to every polygon, but it doesn't have to be to be considered plagiarism.
So I guess the dude issued an apology and made himself look like a massive liar despite not doing anything wrong... for no reason whatsoever? That's what we're going with?
he didn't make himself look like a massive liar. he just didn't say he scaled the model. which literally does not affect the main point in the slightest. if i took the bokoblin model from botw, scaled it down to a mini version, and changed the red to green, that wouldn't make it magically ok because the model is scaled down lmfao
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about him issuing an apology. That made him look like a massive liar and if he didn't actually do anything but scale the models then it was a dumb move to apologise for it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
you've quite literally seen in this thread how palworld shills will latch onto any tiny thing to try and disprove it. like how someone will completely ignore your well-made argument because you made a typo somewhere. apologizing doesn't change the original point at all, stop focusing on it
4 months ago
Anonymous
>affect the main point in the slightest
what main point tho? that they are ripped models? that they are 1:1? Just similar?
Dude was obfuscating the models trying to present them in a way that would make people think they are same as pokemon models. That's why scaling matters. He basically used it maliciously. But obviously not only scaling. Way he presented his "evidence" was like that. His phrasing. All of it.
Fact is - they are different models with different proportions different topology and different rigs.
But instead people are going around saying it's same models with stolen pokemon meshes and rigs
4 months ago
Anonymous
What are you fricking babbling about you schizo
He overlayed the meshes and scaled them to the same size for comparison, so you can see the obvious rip yourself. That's it. The bickering over words is just twatter politics.
4 months ago
Anonymous
that's not how you compare models if you are honest dumbass
he should've done SIDE BY SIDE comparison with topology clearly visible. Instead on obfuscated models by merging them.
What are you not understanding?
Again they are DIFFERENT MODELS with DIFFERENT TOPOLOGY and DIFFERENT RIGS
nothing is ripped
4 months ago
Anonymous
You know what, that's a good point. I didn't consider that scaling the models would allow him to obfuscate the meshes in that manner.
4 months ago
Anonymous
People act as if because uniform scaling does not change the mesh it isn't done arbitrary. Twitter user CHOSE to scale it in a specific way without ever mentioning it or explaining why he scaled it this way and not another way.
It's all clear frickery with a clear goal to troll people. He doesn't give a frick about accuracy or he would never recorded low res twitter videos.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I kinda dismissed the criticisms cause I too argued that scaling the models doesn't change the model. This whole debate turning into a culture war schtick with everybody trying to "own" eachother didn't help me budge on my opinion.
I gave the guy too much credit, but it makes sense that he'd be deceptive in that way. After all he's only doing it to attack them over a weird moral outrage, not to earnestly prove guilt.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I hope you liked and subscribe to him and venmoed him money.
Because getting clout and being le epic ecelebrity on twitter is the only thing these morons care about.
Remember, if you're on social media, only the weirdos you'd avoid irl are the ones who are eager to be seen as virtuous.
That gay probably jerks off to pokemon gore or some shit, 100%,
4 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair I think this post he made is also a lie. He doesn't give a frick about animals. He did it only to troll people and to create more drama.
he didn't make himself look like a massive liar. he just didn't say he scaled the model. which literally does not affect the main point in the slightest. if i took the bokoblin model from botw, scaled it down to a mini version, and changed the red to green, that wouldn't make it magically ok because the model is scaled down lmfao
dumb frick
4 months ago
Anonymous
why didn't he say that he scaled the model to fit his argument?
seems pretty dishonunest
4 months ago
Anonymous
run out of responses on the script, shill?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Because it's fricking irrelevant to anyone with a brain, but then braindead twitter troons like you made a big deal about it so he apologized.
but if you have to change the size of something to fit, isn't that just proof that it's not the same model?
4 months ago
Anonymous
here's your final (you). thanks for playing, shill
4 months ago
Anonymous
just say you have no argument instead of acting like a petulant child.
this is an 18+ board after all.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Because it's fricking irrelevant to anyone with a brain, but then braindead twitter troons like you made a big deal about it so he apologized.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Because he didn't realise that he was talking to 80 iq third worlders who don't understand modeling.
>durr but the pal is bigger how they copy???
4 months ago
Anonymous
>who don't understand modeling.
So if we're going on the assumption that they're stealing models from pokemon, why would there be a need for the model itself to be rescaled individually when all that would happen using the unreal engine?
there's just too many hoops you have to jump through to even get to that conclusion.
the guy even admitted to omitting information
I don't know what else to tell you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>why is there a need to slightly change your stolen assets to avoid a lawsuit
Tell me how you manage to breathe while being so moronic
4 months ago
Anonymous
>stolen assets
look at the date of this trailer
if the assets were stolen wouldn't nintendo have cracked down on it 2 years ago?
>Tell me how you manage to breathe while being so moronic
Why, do you need help breathing?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>half the shit in the trailer isn't even there anymore
damn thats crazier than the 'muh ripoffs' shit
>copy and paste model >shrink it >IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE ITS SMALLER
You frick your sister and your mother?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Black person the animals chosen as scale model dont even have the same standing animation
He had to shrink it down and hide it and he still failed
But you blind bucks cant even see it
4 months ago
Anonymous
The standing animation doesn't change the model from being the same. The models shouldn't even be able to overlap.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>tails are different >ears are different >feet are different >proportions are different >they overlap
because its four legged animal everything with 4 legs overlap
4 months ago
Anonymous
>leg meets the body at the same point >Tail meets the butt at the same point >Head is attached to the body at the same point
It goes beyond "well they're both dogs", it has the same limb length and everything just individual parts have been edited.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao where the frick do you think the tail connects to, moron? Palworld infringed copyright because they didn't redesign the common spinal structure of all vertebrae?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>your legs meets the body at the same point >Your Head is attached to the body at the same point
Wow you need to sue other humans for copying you
4 months ago
Anonymous
>basic body anatomy >literally copy nintendo
4 months ago
Anonymous
Nintendo, hire this man as a lawyer he has this case dead to rights!
If only Nintendos lawyers were as competent as he is
Are you blind or moronic? It's clearly an accurate mesh of the Pokemon, resized for comparison. He's saying it's not "exactly" the same down to every polygon, but it doesn't have to be to be considered plagiarism.
>but it doesn't have to be to be considered plagiarism.
uh yes, yes it does. that's the entire point of plagiarism. if the art deviates from the original, than that becomes it's own original art. you may not like it, but that's just how it works.
please fricking learn a thing or two before speaking you stupid little zoomie c**t.
>if the art deviates from the original, than that becomes it's own original art. you may not like it, but that's just how it works
That is literally not how it works you moronic 12 year old mutt. If someone made mickey mouse with slightly bigger ears and blue pants Disney would have sued them to the ground. At least before he became public domain.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>If someone made mickey mouse with slightly bigger ears and blue pants
Yes that's literally how it works except it's not as simple as you put it. With enough differences, it becomes its own.
Also these palworld monsters are much different than just slightly bigger ears and blue pants.
Its funny because you probably see knock offs everywhere you go but you don't say "wtf plagiarism!!"
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes I do, especially when it's as glaringly obvious as palworld.
Also Micket Mouse isn't public domain you absolute fricking moron, Steamboat Willie is. You can't even argue using facts. So go frick off and don't bother replying back to me dumb c**t.
Sorry timmy, I don't keep exact notes on pedoisraelite media bullshit. But just like this guy's "apology," it has nothing to do with the point. Keep seething little homosexual.
4 months ago
Anonymous
now i see. you got me anon, i fell for your bait. nobody can be as moronic as you made yourself out to be.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Also Micket Mouse isn't public domain you absolute fricking moron, Steamboat Willie is. You can't even argue using facts. So go frick off and don't bother replying back to me dumb c**t.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Literally everything about him except for the gloves and grating ass voice are public domain, and I doubt the gloves are worth a case from Disney, because if they lose precedence they're fricked.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes that's correct. Literally everything about Steamboat Willie is public domain.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Nevermind. The gloves are fine too. The voice is all they have left.
he literally says its uniformly.
can you not read?
if a take a picture of mario, and scale it uniformally smaller, that doesnt mean it isnt mario.
now if i made his hat taller, his feet massive, torso nearly non existant, hands feakisly different sizes, etc, then it would be scaled non uniformaly, and u could get to a point that even in court it may not hold up.
but if its purely all at the same proportions, just smaller/larger all together? then yeah, thats fine.
(I also prefer the palworld versions 75% of the time)
can you not read? he literally says for not being precise enough in the explanation, which has lead to ppl misunderstanding.
if i said someone handed me a dollar, and someone says "no it was a dollar and 1 penny" big fricking deal, fine, sorry, its $1.01
that doesnt mean hes apologising for making up the story, hes apologizing for not mentioning something thats extremely minor, and not really relevant, but for those trying to pick fights.
They probably could have. Alternatively if I were in their shoes to create models, I might have just copied some designs just for reference anyway. No point reinventing the wheel if the animations and such work for them. I won't say there's a standard way of making 3D models but many artists tend to make them in quite similar ways.
>Design aside, whats the deal with the liars?
People lie because everyone has realized in a world full of idiots that forgot the most important rule of the net: People lie on the internet and make shit up for fun.
You can push whatever narrative you want if you lie, because everyone will just listen and believe.
while theres still no proof, the argument that was originally told about the models wasnt a lie though.
Its still scaled uniformly. but theres plenty of other evidence to suggest this isnt a direct rip of the models.
either way, ppl b***hing about him "making it up" isnt really that true.
Fricking journalists >I resized the model to fit it in the tweet but the meshes are the same (LITERALLY what the homosexual was talking about)
Insert journalists >TWITTER USER ADMITS HE FAKED THE ENTIRE THING
Im genuinely annoyed Im even commenting on this moronic pokemon model "controversy" but I hate journalists and their deceptive fricking lies so much.
>Shouldn't they check if the game models are really the same? Shouldn't they do some investigating and use editor tools to figure things out? But hey, it's easier to rely on an X comment and run with it. That's not very professional, especially for the big gaming news sites.
The absolute irony of this paragraph, holy shit.
Idiot didn't even understand that news sites have one purpose: Generating clicks, which means to generate sensationalism. That is 100% professional if you are a news writer
What actually happened was some guy made a few model comparisons to show how closely multiple Pals align with Pokémon, someone spun this saying that the comparisons were filled with misinfo because the person making those comparisons admitted that they had to scale the models, accusing them of having an agenda, which in turn made people spin around that the comparisons are fabricated altogether, and now a bunch of people are running with that even though scaling the models doesn't actually matter, and several other model comparisons/opinions from other modelers have openly stated that it is no coincidence that the models are that close.
No no
Comparisons WERE filled with misinfo. Every new post made by him created MORE AND MORE confusion because of how they were presented and worded.
Saying he was spreading misinfo is 100% accurate.
He did indeed have an agenda.
Scaling DOES matter. >and several other model comparisons/opinions from other modelers have openly stated that it is no coincidence that the models are that close
my dude
most of them FAILED to even PROVE that "models are close"
Obviously it's not a coincidence lmao devs are ripping off pokemon designs and fuse different pokemon elements together. None of that is relevant to x user who started spreading misinfo. He didn't even compare actual similar model. His 1st post was either wolf or cat (that's not even in the game)
We lie and grift the shit out of everyone and everything now because it is easy and we need money to survive.
People who cant create successful businesses or have no marketable skills will always go this route and tons of capable people are getting burnt out wage slaving when you can just lay in bed and make Tweets and reaction videos for 2-10k a month if you go viral enough times.
It's not plagiarism and nothing will ever happen to palworld legally but if you don't think they did a "copy my homework but just slightly change it bro" on a majority of their designs I refuse to believe you have eyes. It's so blatantly obvious
Who cares who did it first? Even if that's true it's completely irrelevant. There are models in palworld that are 99% identical to the Pokemon they copy but with elongated claws instead of puppy paw pads or whatever the frick. You Black folk are dumb as hell. You're just as bad as the nintendies that you hate
>W-who cares who did it first? >I-It's like pokemon >W-well okay maybe it's from digimon but they based it off pokemon >Well e-even if pokemon took ideas from digimon they still stole the stolen idea from pokemon.
>Tendies big "haha I got you now!" moment is an unused placeholder that is not even in the game, only accessible by combing the files with a find tooth comb, purposely looking for ANY sort of proof for your argument
homie it's literally just an unused asset, it's not part of the current game. I'll level with you honestly and it was most likely worked on, but probably canned for maybe being too similar to Mewtwo so the dev team didn't want to risk it and took it out. It does not show up in the game.
I get it. There’s creatures. Thats where the similarities end. Pokemon is a turn based rpg and palworld is an open world survival sandbox. I don’t see the comparison.
Almost every review I’ve seen mentions pokemon yet this game seems like Ark more than anything. I just don’t see the value in comparing to pokemon. I love pokemon. I just don’t understand why we can’t let these games be their own thing.
The theme of Palworld is a dark humor parody of Pokemon specifically, even though gameplay-wise they are completely different. So it's definitely worth talking in reviews for an audience that might be curious about a Pokemon game, but they can do not so PG things, as well as inform the audience that the gameplay is NOT Pokemon at all.
There’s elemental powers that you can use by capturing the animal with said power, which is different to how most games do elemental stuff, in most games you play as the character that commands that element or there’s some magic system for it. Come on, it’s like you’re trying to not see how this game was inspired by pokemon, even the UI of the pokem… I mean pals looks just like legends Arceus, these are the most Pokémon looking non pokemon I’ve seen, maybe you agree that pokemon mystery dungeon isn’t actually pokemon either because it’s not the classic turn based formula, pokemon unite isn’t technically pokemon either, but come on. We know it’s pokemon
palworld devs could take the guy to court for data intrustion, since the model cannot be found anywhere through normal gameplay
but they're probably too busy hiring bodyguards to protect from crazy fanatics
What gets me is that these fanatics didn't think the company would lawyer up before publishing the game to see if they were breaking any laws or infringing on Pokemon.
This is a model from Warlords of Draenor, a WoW expansion released in 2014. Years later, Lycanroc was added in Sun and Moon in 2016 with extremely similar proportions and features such as four legs, a tail and sharp teeth. Of course I know that's just because they're both wolves, but according to cultists accusing Palworld of theft this is proof that they "stole" the model to make Lycanroc. So Blizzard should sue Game Freak, right? It's the same situation.
The similarities are undeniable. The vast majority being because they're based on the same animal, but that wasn't an excuse for Palworld so it's not an excuse for Pokemon! Sue 'em to hell, Blizzard!
This is a model from Warlords of Draenor, a WoW expansion released in 2014. Years later, Lycanroc was added in Sun and Moon in 2016 with extremely similar proportions and features such as four legs, a tail and sharp teeth. Of course I know that's just because they're both wolves, but according to cultists accusing Palworld of theft this is proof that they "stole" the model to make Lycanroc. So Blizzard should sue Game Freak, right? It's the same situation.
Thirdies are grasping hard, must suck not getting Pokemon and needed the counterfeit version.
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Thirdies are grasping hard, must suck not getting Pokemon and needed the counterfeit version.
sir, you are dumb perhaps? all pokemon games can be emulated, even scarlet/violet run better on PC than on switch, Scarlet Violet 4k 60fps 🙂 courtesy of Nintendo's shit hardware
Hot take here. Both Direhowl and Lycanroc Dawn are lame designs an neither should have been added to their respective games without more design work. "A wolf but it's just a wolf" is boring as frick. At least try to make him look rocky or elemental. Or in Direhowl's case do anything with him besides boring type. The edgy Looney Tunes Lycanroc is cool and can stay.
What I really don't fricking get is why becoming huge is dyanamax while becoming huge with a new form is gigantamax, shouldn't it be the other way around because that they call gigantamax is dynamic
>Palworld design that they left in the data
So in other words, not in the actual game. This could be a design they decided was too similar and opted not to use.
>Take one of the most iconic designs in science fiction >Elongate the head >Remove the tail and put it on the back of the head
Dude original character!
It's been 3 days since the asset theft accusations were admitted to be fake and there are STILL tendies clinging to it in every thread. You can't make this shit up bruh.
>believe what he said
What is there to disbelieve you gigantic moron? You can see with your own eyes that the mesh matches the Pokemon and the ripoff.
>everyone knows he lied because he admitted it after not getting enough clout on twatter
How can you furries be so gullible and autistic at the same time?
Get off your knees dude, you're taking Nintendo's dick so deep down your throat that I'm surprised you haven't suffocated. Impressive deepthroating skills aside, this is embarrassing that you're going this far to defend a billion dollar corpo that hates you.
Are you just malding and replying to everyone no matter what? The palworld models have a completely different structure to the ripped pokemon ones so you it's not possible to create them via just scaling the pokemon models up
>ERMMMMM DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT LE SCALING IS HE LE LICHERULLY OVERLAYED THEM, OVERLAYING MEANS HE'S RIGHT >NOOOO DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE HECKIN' CATTERINO'S LEGS AND PAWS AND TORSO AND MANES BEING DIFFERENT SHAPES THEY CHEATED THEY CHEATED THEY CHEATEEEEEEEEEEED SUE THEM NOW NOW NOOOOOOW
You homosexuals are so infantile it's pathetic. I sure hope you're at least getting paid to post like this 24/7/365, this is fricking goofy ass, miserable behavior.
who here says you dont know what scaling is? link the post. i bet youre going to link to a post talking about uniformly scaling.
and no, the other additions on the pals isnt part of the argument youre strawmaning. no one gives a shit if they copied pokemon or not. just that its moronic to say hes lying on no evidence. (he can be stupidly wrong, w/o intentionally lying)
>show proof >pls proof >give me proof
Are you sure you want proof, which is plenty posted itt alone or are you just trying to damage control?
Honestly, that guy should just delete his profile.
He will never be a famous influencer now
it's over for him
lmao
lol
seen the whole thread, and each copy of his post proves your statement wrong.
Explain how UNIFORMALLY SCALING is "making it up"/"Lying".
otherwise, gtfo
>ERMMMM SCALING
homie don't run away from the overlayed shit, anyone can take two seconds to see they have different topology.
Get a new cope troonoid.
run away from it? wtf u talking about. i never said they do or do not have different topology. i never said the guy is accurate or even telling the truth in his eyes.
im saying the argument is using false evidence.
you guys keep making up my arguments, instead of what im saying, and are doing it to him too. id hate to see how you interact with ppl in the real world.
Is it marketers or are people pretending to be moronic or what? Wario doesn't have the same proportions as Mario no matter how you scale him down, you have to directly change his proportions.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You could not miss the point any harder dude. This gotta be bait bruh, there's no way.
4 months ago
Anonymous
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Thirdies are grasping hard, must suck not getting Pokemon and needed the counterfeit version.
Black person these palshits dont even have the same feet or ears as pokemon but fricking dogs that walk on 4 legs makes you think >OHHHHHH theyre all the same scale
Because you're a fricking moron
4 months ago
Anonymous
Reported for posting dog dicks.
4 months ago
Anonymous
hes genderfluid chud
4 months ago
Anonymous
>...butt fricking dogs...
Definitely a nintendont post
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Wario doesn't have the same proportions as Mario no matter how you scale him down, you have to directly change his proportions.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Those dont even look remotely alike, what am I supposed to be seeing here?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>what am I supposed to be seeing here?
that they are different models, both based on real life animal proportions
4 months ago
Anonymous
So why does the non dog parts not line up? You can't own the dog form. Any spike anime hair styled dog is going to look similar. Tails don't match, tufts don't match, just the dog parts are similar because it's a fricking dog and not a bird
4 months ago
Anonymous
Since you seem to be a little slow, let's do an experiment.
Take two people, put them in separate rooms and tell them to make 3D models of a dog.
What are the chances all the "dog parts" are identical? How would two people not seeing what the other one is doing make the head to body ratio the same, legs be the same length, space between the legs be the same, length of the body be the same, height be the same etc?
There are 3 answers:
1. One model was made first, copied and had "non-dog parts" edited
2. One model was made first, used as reference end traced, with new "non-dog parts" being added in place of the old ones
3. They used the same 2D reference, which in Pokemon's case was the concept art
Can you grasp it a bit more now?
4 months ago
Anonymous
why does it matter? you do not need to compare models to see which pokemon they were ripping off.
Model comparison was done solely to check if they stole the models. When it became obvious that models and rigs are not stolen the twitter gay which everybody is quoting decided to start a misinfo campaign by presenting the models in an obfuscating way without much information or clear side by side comparison with topology and rigs visible.
Nintendo does not indeed own dogs, cartoon dogs, spiky hair or even pokemon-like artstyle. They don't even own parts of the designs.
All shit's done in palworld (as far as we know) was legal.
4 months ago
Anonymous
kek even ignoring the Vegeta hair this is absurd
4 months ago
Anonymous
if you cut it in half that is clearly shadow the hedgehog, sega should sue
Wario is literally a parody of Mario, yes. But if another company created him they would probably still get sued. And the irony is that he's more different from Mario than pals are from the mons they ripped off.
>the topology is different >no guys, its totally the same u cant prove anything waaaaaaaah >proceeds to claim that pokemon invented animals thus anyone making an animal with elemental powers is a pokemon rip off
Thank god i wasnt born autistic.
>making up arguments >doing it to him too
b***h you wouldn't even know what "strawman" means if it slapped you and fricked your mother kek
What I posted is exactly what you troon freaks have been crying about and why you felt the need to respond to begin with since I made fun of you for it.
That twitter troony is wrong, you tourist trannies are wrong, you're getting dabbed on and there's nothing you can do about it.
Don't even bother responding, I'm closing the thread, hiding it and deleting it from my history so I won't ever see your mentally ill shill consoomer troony response.
SCD (seethe, cope, dilate)
you must be the type of person who thinks the monty hall problem is a 50-50.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Doesn't matter which door I open, behind every single one, I will find you sucking on balls.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>BRO Y DONT U JUST BELIEVE SOMEONE WHO WILLINGLY TRIED TO MANIPULATE THE PERCEPTION OF THE FACTS FOR HIS OWN GAIN?
Truth be told, i just reasonably despise homosexuals. They're disgusting.
Let's leave it at that.
>making up arguments >doing it to him too
b***h you wouldn't even know what "strawman" means if it slapped you and fricked your mother kek
What I posted is exactly what you troon freaks have been crying about and why you felt the need to respond to begin with since I made fun of you for it.
That twitter troony is wrong, you tourist trannies are wrong, you're getting dabbed on and there's nothing you can do about it.
Don't even bother responding, I'm closing the thread, hiding it and deleting it from my history so I won't ever see your mentally ill shill consoomer troony response.
SCD (seethe, cope, dilate)
>UUUUUHM LIKE NO? UR WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO?! WHAT PROOF! LMAO IM BLIND
anon, your damage control is obvious
You keep being unreasonable and honestly lacking common sense and critical thinking
These things alone would be proof, you're arguing in bad faith or to push your narrative or brand any opposing voice and opinion as not being credible.
Honestly, your only answer will be: >OMG LIKE UR CRAZY IDK ANYTHING UR TALKING ABOUT
P*ketards will never recover from this
Even gamefreak wants the franchise dead thats why they keep feeding you the slop they do
you have no self-respect
delete your social media, tie a rope around your neck and jump in front of a train
>icant prove it
k
u may want to work on your social skills, theyre worse than my spelling and grammar.
this post
run away from it? wtf u talking about. i never said they do or do not have different topology. i never said the guy is accurate or even telling the truth in his eyes.
im saying the argument is using false evidence.
you guys keep making up my arguments, instead of what im saying, and are doing it to him too. id hate to see how you interact with ppl in the real world.
should help you understand the basic argument being presented... maybe... maybe youll still reinterpret it into something unrelated again.
>the topology is different >no guys, its totally the same u cant prove anything waaaaaaaah >proceeds to claim that pokemon invented animals thus anyone making an animal with elemental powers is a pokemon rip off
Thank god i wasnt born autistic.
If you have to fake your evidence to "prove" that something happened... then it didn't happen. If they really stole models you could just line them up as-is without having to scale limbs and shit to make them "match".
>show proof >pls proof >give me proof
Are you sure you want proof, which is plenty posted itt alone or are you just trying to damage control?
Honestly, that guy should just delete his profile.
He will never be a famous influencer now
it's over for him
lmao
lol
can you link to actual proof? and not him saying "scaling uniformly"?
It's been 3 days since the asset theft accusations were admitted to be fake and there are STILL tendies clinging to it in every thread. You can't make this shit up bruh.
>clickbait headline and israelitetuber spouting total bullshit
Wow that proves everything.
>Misreport an admission of copying that didn't happen >Report this with a grass Donphan header
"Journalists" should better having never done any original work themselves.
they just spammed to death every threads about it screaming it was a ripoff of their precious Bloodborn and how it was obviously very very very very inferior.
Fromsoft fans are too busy arguing over which Dark Souls is the one true king to care about Soulslikes, which is why Niohgays act like attention-starved children and Twinkgays behave the exact same way.
That being said outside of Ganker things are indeed rather civil. For fanbase other than tendies that is, they act the exact same way everywhere.
Dude how are you not understanding what's being said? They didn't LITERALLY accuse it of the crime of plagiarism. They complained about how similar it was but there was no call for From to take legal action over "stolen models".
Palworld got more threads in a single day than both of those games combined have ever had and every single Palworld thread has been talking about Pokemon.
The craziest thing is that there are like 50 games that genuinely did steal Pokemon's gameplay but they gave them a free pass while freaking out about Palworld which has Ark's gameplay. Nothing about this makes sense.
the real issue with palworld isn't that they copied design themes of pokemon, it's that the resemblance of a few pals to pokemon raises the question of "Did they steal assets in the form of pokemon models rather than make the models entirely from scratch?" Simply changing the design wouldn't be enough to avoid legal trouble if they straight up stole the pokemon models. This is known as derivative work and its illegal.
>Did you see this guy's comparison of Pinkachu and Pikachu? I think they might have plagiarised the design >Actually that's been debunked, he admitted that he scaled it to make the comparison which means he completely faked it and nothing was plagiarised
At this point I don't care if they copied them or not. And I'm not gonna defend Palworld because it looks like a lazy Ark clone. But I hope people "borrow" more creative inspiration from Gamefreak and Nintendo. They deserve it for being lazy pricks.
I do not give a FRICK if the designs aren't original. Pokemon designs haven't been original since inception, they just were once pleasant to look at, and a lot of the designs in Palworld are pretty pleasant.
THE GAME IS FRICKING BORING ASS EARLY ACCESS SHIT THOUGH.
This bring me back to the genshin day >Zelda invented grassy field >Zelda invented swimming >Zelda invented stamina >Zelda invented grass burning >Zelda invented parachute
What a fricking clown show
Umm... Pokemon bros? Lycanroc's design got stolen AGAIN!
To clarify, this is a joke and it was not stolen. I have to clarify so that braindead Pokemon fans don't take it seriously and start agreeing with it and spamming that Minecraft stole from Pokemon. Yes, they are that stupid.
>gaise gaise if something is clearly similar to a concept that already existed before its literally plagiarism
No surprise coming from the people that probably took sonic ocs too seriously and still do
How did Temtem get away with "stealing" Bulbasaur and Chimchar's models for two of their starters? I mean, they have similar proportions and colors so that means they MUST have stole them, so where was the freakout from tendies?
You're just trolling at this point if you think they look identical to Pokemon. Since when does Pokemon have a plain orange monkey, a gemstone tortoise and whatever the frick that thing on the right is supposed to be.
In no shape or form do they look anything like the other monkey. They did their own design. Being a red monkey isn't copying. Being the same design is,.
4 months ago
Anonymous
sorry hes literally copying the orange monkey
Nintendo needs to sue
4 months ago
Anonymous
they're investigating now
only two more weeks!
4 months ago
Anonymous
"investigating" so that people like the idiots here stop sending them emails about how much they LOVE sucking GameFreak's wiener and that there's this evil EVIL game out there trying to tread upon that wiener's territory
such cuckery to fight and defend a business that just wants your money lel
Because while the concept is similar the design itself is original.
Palworld copies the design wholesale, and in some cases even seems to use the same assets just slightly edited.
What about Japan loving hooded archers don't you understand? Do you really struggle to imagine how 2 developers might come up with the same idea but ending up with two different but similar concepts?
They put the least amount of effort into their fake Pokemon. Like holy shit, is it really hard to CHANGE THE COLOR? How about make it based on a different animal. It's really fricking clear they wanted to be Rated R Pokemon.
Palworld might as well be a huge fricking mod, game isn't finished and you idiots just paid the creators millions to run off with.
>bushi
HOLY SHIT GAMEFREAK INVENTED FEUDAL JAPAN
I think it's really funny that pokegays are so ineffective in talking about copyright because there's so many of them, and so inevitably the majority is moronic
You have 2-3 cases where it looks really sketchy, like primarina and the cat face one, but people spam the most meaningless vapid comparisons so those cases keep hidden lmao
If he really likes the game then why tf would he even throw shade at it?
Zoomer cult mentality. You can't have nuanced opinions, only utter worship or condemnation. Like when they boycott product because someone involved said they don't wanna murder blumpf.
Because you can enjoy the game for how it plays and still be intellectually honest and admit a frickton of designs are based on specific pokemon.
Not everyone explaining the blatant similarities is defending GF, that's just the strawman you have created in your head so you can ignore reality.
No it didn't. SMT did it first, which copied it from a porn game, and there was a game in development that did it BEFORE anyone did it (Wizardry 4, kinda of a stretch but eh...)
If Nintendo had anything Palworld woulda never released and you assclowns know it, the devs for this are Japanese so they know better than anyone that Japan is guilty before innocent so when you begin development of a game that looks even slightly like Pokemon, you make DAMN FRICKING SURE Nintendo can't sue the living crap out of you.
In the world of intellectual property, Palworld did nothing wrong
Yes. The dev team is Japanese and have been open with Nintendo during development. The frick you think, they're making something that looks like Pokemon in Japan where your ass is guilty first before anything
It's not that you're guilty until proven innocent in Japan, they won't suck your balls like that, it's more like they won't even charge you unless they are CERTAIN that it will stick.
Injunctions sure as frick do.
Because even if Nintendo sues now and wins, what are their damages? How are they going to prove Palworld somehow caused them to lose money?
Looks like someone saw the Amber Heard trial and just decided to extrapolate that shit.
Copyright infringement doesn't have to involve loss of revenue, if someone is making money with shit you created and registered then that's all you need to stop them.
Also, stop saying "Nintendo" you fricking morons, Nintendo only owns publishing rights, the Pokemon franchise is owned by The Pokemon Company, Gamefreak and Creatures Inc.
Yeah, key word there: stop them. Not claim non-existent damages.
If they wanted to stop them, they would have done so before it released, and not after it made 10 million sales
>If they wanted to stop them, they would have done so before it released, and not after it made 10 million sales
You're so stupid. You are supposed to let them make all those sales so you can claim their money as compensation. Suing a dirt poor company does not get them money.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Compensation... for what?
Compensation compensates for loss.
What did Nintendo lose? Do they have a recently released Pokemon game with a substandard number of sales?
No?
I guess they didn't lose anything.
4 months ago
Anonymous
this
Palworld doesn't hurt Pokemon, the world is big enough for both to exist. Look at the sale for Scarlet/Violet despite being so shit
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Compensation... for what?
I'm not an experience, ivy league graduate, 7-figure income lawyer. Why would you ask anyone that. They are the experts who find the reasons and write documents, not me.
Not him, but copyright as long as it's registered has presumed damages of like 150k per infringement, and israelite lawyers would dissect the game and claim each pal is a separate infringement so it'd be like 15m plus punitive damages.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's in the US.
4 months ago
Anonymous
True, in japan it's 50k plus ten years in a work camp.
Who said anything about damages? Nintendo and their subsidiaries are mostly known for issuing C&D and DMCA claims, they rarely claim actual damages, most of the time when they get paid is because of lawsuit costs, not for damages, the only time I know of that they actually got damages was with that guy who was selling roms.
4 months ago
Anonymous
So where's the C&D? Game's out and already made bank. Game was in development for 3 years.
>in the eyes of the law
That's not what the twitter comparisons are talking about. They're simply pointing out the obvious theft. Whether Nintendo does anything about it doesn't change the fact that it happened.
>If Palworld plagiarise, it would have never released
Absolutely factual post
But p*ketards don't know anything besides jerking off to blue fish dog and humanoid bunny so of course they have no idea how game releases work >game studio has to get the game approved for release >people, publisher platforms, government, etcetera check for any possible infringements >only if it gets the green light it can get released >p*kelard unironically believe you just make game and release it everywhere
If Nintendo had anything Palworld woulda never released and you assclowns know it, the devs for this are Japanese so they know better than anyone that Japan is guilty before innocent so when you begin development of a game that looks even slightly like Pokemon, you make DAMN FRICKING SURE Nintendo can't sue the living crap out of you.
In the world of intellectual property, Palworld did nothing wrong
>stolen assets
look at the date of this trailer
if the assets were stolen wouldn't nintendo have cracked down on it 2 years ago?
>Tell me how you manage to breathe while being so moronic
Why, do you need help breathing?
Amazing.
The "HE LIED" cope got thoroughly btfo in this thread, so they immediately move to the next moronic shilling tactic in the script. Is the gift card payout the same or does it gradually go down, sirs?
I am looking forward to making fun of Tendies for all time after this. 3 months from now no one will give a shit about this drama, but I will be posting @Nintendo every time there's a [element] [creature] from now on.
You should probably clarify that you're only talking about the head because I thought you were shitposting at first since the body is nothing alike at all. But damn the hair, head shape and those weird sticky out parts on the cheeks are extremely similar at the very least.
The head clearly is, if you open them in Blender I guarantee you that the tris are all in the exact same place, in fact, someone already proved that the blue snake thing essentially uses a stretched out version of Serperior's gen 7 model and Primarina's hair.
And I know a shitton of you don't get it because you don't know jack shit about 3D modelling, but the probability of making two separate models from scratch and them being virtually the same is practically impossible, even Creatures Inc. themselves couldn't do it when they remade all the Battle Revolution assets for X and Y, it's an inherent thing to 3D modelling, you'll always end up with stuff in different places and configurations, the idea that Creatures and Palworld somehow created these extremely similar models by mere accident is asinine.
It feels like people are fricking brainwashed into talking about this game and defending it. The game itself is nothing special. There’s something weird about this.
>There’s something weird about this.
yeah, people don't like liars that's all
game is full of bugs and pathfinding is shit-tier
still fun game for early access
>draw a human being >make hands attach to arms >arms attach to torso >frick... i plagiarized gamefreak because they made pokemon trainers and those a human beings
bros wtf man
how do i not plagiarize nientendu?
>be military man >deployed in the incendiary unit >trained to handle a flame thrower >can't use flame thrower anymore because pokemon has a move called flame thrower >Sergeant scared for his life that the TPC suits will come knocking at the door any second now
broos its over
>make human being >make it wear a gucci red shirt, have a proud personality, always say "tsk tsk tsk" before every sentence, black hair, blue eyes, round face, 5ft9, sandals >see another game developer take the exact same character, paste it over, tweak some lines, and change the name >this is ok
im a part of palworld nation but you fricking morons who don't know what scaling means need to have a nice day, i dont know if you are moronic underage homosexuals or are legit fricking stupid. all that twitter dude did was scale the model to match the luxray model to show the similarities. you are a subhuman if you say that twitter homosexual "lied"
>I'm totally a Palworld fan like you guys but can't you agree that they copied from Pokemon and Game Freak should sue them and take the game off steam?
Nice try.
If anything they copied ARK and replaced the dinosaurs with creatures similar to Pokemon. I don't see how this is a bad thing, Pokemon didn't invent monsters. Pokemon didn't even invent monsters in a slightly anime style, that belongs to Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior etc.
>be unreasonable and blind >clearly futile to keep arguing in circles >move to other shit >OMG FRICKING SHILLS WHY DONT THEY WANT TO ARGUE ME ANYMORE WHEN I SAY THEY'RE WRONG THEY ARE LITERALLY CHANGING THE SUBJECT WTF GAMEFREAK SUE THEM!!!!
Don't care about plagiarism and never did. They could be 1 to 1 copies of pokemon straight up and I wouldn't give a frick.
Pokemon/Gamefreak apologists deserve as much shit as they can get, they happily accepted getting shit shoved down their throat for 2 decades at this point.
The fact that a pokemon-knock off made their game infinitely more fun and entertaining in 7 years with a shit budget and one of the modelers being a literal gunaboo kid, than gamefreak has since silver and gold genuinely makes me smile.
Murder is illegal, but you don't see me giving a shit when the pedophile is murdered by someone else.
>search pokemon on steam >hundreds of results none of them named pokemon
wtf??
If there's no pokemon games on pc then it was just a matter of time someone took over the mantle.
These people are so fricking moronic, gamefreak/the pokemon company and palword's devs (pocketpair) are both Japanese companies.
Japan has no concept of fair use in their legal system, this doesn't even need to go through international courts, if they had ANY legal case to sue, they would have already.
Hell I remember when Temtem first came out in Early Access and people were saying the same things and asking why Nintendo didn't shut them down.
They can't. You can't copyright game mechanics and Temtem is far closer to Pokemon double battles than anything Palworld has done. Hell Coromon looks near identical to a GBA Pokemon game. Otherwise clone games wouldn't exist and we would only have one game per genre, which would be a very sad world to live in.
Granted, some Pals do look somewhat similar to some Pokemon, but only so far as to call a wolf a wolf and a dragon a dragon. IMO, a lot of Pokemon designs are pretty lazy in that a dog evolves into a bigger dog. If Nintendo can prove that Palworld did copy their models, then they have a case, but given that they hadn't taken the game down long ago when we have known about it for years now is rather telling. Nintendo is not really in the habit of letting a game go in development for years that may have infringed on their designs. They would have filed a cease and desist motion long ago. They have filed such motions against fan games for far less.
For instance, a lot of us say Grizzbolt looks like Electabuzz, but just as many people call it Totoro. Being inspired by what came before isn't a crime.
I call Palworld inspired by Pokemon, but plagiarism isn't what I first thought when I saw the game, but apparently that isn't what some people elsewhere on the Internet are screaming about, one of my friends was saying this and I respectfully disagree.
Drawing fake Pokemon is a pastime that many of us did as kids. Pokemon sucking balls, that kind of thing. Hell one artist even got his fake Pokemon featured in Temtem as one of the monsters there.
>they would have a case
Nope.
I'll tell you straight up and go tell that to the twitter freaks.
The scope and overall state (those are very important words) of Palworld, cannot be considered a rip-off, plagiarized or copy of Pokemon.
Granted some Pal designs share some similarities with a handful of Pokemon, but if sharing similarities, even if blatant, would be enough to take a piece of art down, then you would have the porn you consume 24/7.
I correct myself;
Then you would NOT have the porn you so religiously consume and think about all day due to being a mentally ill and autistic furry degenerate.
If you keep stealing EVERY Fricking design idea from another game its literally plagiarism. We know where they got their design ideas from nobody is fooling anyone with this shit.
Pokémon has been an unchanging constant in many people's lives ever since they were children. Like eating Mom's veggie soup, it's comforting and brings us back to a simpler time.
Accepting that Game Freak has been sabotaging the games to fleece the fanbase for a quick buck is like accepting that Mom's veggie soup was from a can the whole time. It ruins that comfort, that fantasy.
That's why ever since Sword & Shield, the narrative has been that Game Freak are overworked / TPC is mean to them :'( (even though GF owns TPC) / it's impossible to make a quality game when you have so many creatures / a whole bunch of other excuses.
But then Palworld came and completely destroyed all the common arguments in Pokémon's defense. It's a low budget game, done in a dev cycle comparable to pokemon (at least 3 years but there was a full engine switch st some point, Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet had ~3 year dev cycles), and it looks great, runs great and plays great. It respects the player and doesn't need to rely on flashy style-over-substance gimmicks to sell itself. In 2024, Pokemon is pretty much sucking its own balls.
They have no argument anymore and are going through the stages of grief:
Denial - "Yeah this game is just throwaway shovelware, nobody will buy it"
Anger - "Why are millions of people buying this? You're horrible plagiarism / ai / crypto supporters!"
Bargaining - "Daddy Nintendo send Pocketpair to the principal's office and have them EXPELLED!!"
Are you homosexuals seriously implying that Nintendo wouldn't have tried to end Palworld from the first trailer? It's Tear Ring Saga all over again and they sure as hell wouldn't want that shit to happen again.
So unless the laws changed to Disney's level they really, really, can't do shit beyond asking to modify some Pals if at all unless they prove that the models are 1:1 theirs
>lawsuit lawsuit lawsuit
Thank you moronic shills for tacitly admitting that the assets are ripped, since you can't even discuss that point anymore and have to fixate on legal shit
>if at all unless they prove that the models are 1:1 theirs
homie, can you read? They would have to prove that its literally and factually theirs without even a 00000.00001% of mistake, they also tried to get rid of Tear Ring Saga from the moment it was announced so they got three whole years to do that with Palworld but now, after three fricking years, when the game got updates about its status almost yearly they will do something? >T-they needed the data!
Boy, Nintendo is paranoid as frick with their IPs so they must/could (whatever you want) have filed a complaint at any court from the very start to get an order and force them to show their models at the slightest suspicion
I don't really give a frick about plagiarism, design whatever Palmon just shows The Pokemon Company needs to step the frick up, break free from its Nintendo chains and come to proper gaming hardware already
Nintendo always has hardware 2 gens behind feels like, their games are so ugly they could be run on shit from 2012.
>be gamefreak >do the same game for 30 years >decide to just shit out the bare minimum >hopefully the game bombs so you change contracts with nintendo and are allowed to develop something else >p*keautists still buy it >still forced to shit out pokeslop >can't even outsource the development because of the franchise being what carries the whole company
Honestly, i don't even blame Gamefreak, i blame the p*ketards who buy literally anything
I stopped buying after Black/White, after that it was the occasional difficulty romhack, then other games. I can't stand how shit Pokemon has gotten, how have the games gotten UGLIER bro Colosseum looked better than Scarlet/Violet
Yesterday I played a pokémon music playlist in the background while racing around on my mount and it felt absolutely amazing. My childhood pokémon-adventure dream come true.
"I want to be the very BEST! Like no one ever was... <dun dun duddunnn>"
I also love that the double-jump deer is in this game, just like in Elden Ring. I loved the open world exploration from Elden Ring and I always wanted that game to have different types of mounts like dragons and giant birds, but here they are in Palworld, sucking on my balls.
>the designs don't look alike >okay they look alike in these tweets but the guy lied >okay the guy didn't lie but the designs weren't stolen >okay they were stolen but that's a good thing
Paljeets shitting themselves
this is the strawmanniest strawman I've ever seen
you'd think if there'd be anything against the law that gamefreak would pounce, like they did with the guy who put the palworld pokemon mod behind a paywall.
>okay they were stolen but they aren't prosecuted yet
Anon, today is validating that the pals are pokemon fusions, tomorrow you're going to demand from us to call you a woman.
Pokemon should honestly just die already. Even its creators want to be freed from its autistic clutches.
>okay they were stolen but d-dilate
The last whimpers of dying shills
>guy announces to the world he wants to steal your shit >3 years pass >get shit stolen >everyone is talking about it >just say you're looking into it
Your only option in life is to dilate.
can you not? There are creatures that some are blatant ripoffs of popular Pokemon, it features a system where you fight other creatures with your creatures, and you even catch, collect, and "train" your creatures.
The whole game seems fairly derivative in my opinion. It's a worse Pokemon, a worse Fortnite, and a worse Ark from everything I've seen.
Have you take a look at 'pals' ? They're all a copy of pokemons.
Even in the 'idea', they all follow the scheme of pokemons.
Fan art is only bad when it's done by ai. you dumb moron.
We're speaking legally here.
Fanart is tolerated by companies, but purely legally speaking, every fanartist infringes upon copyright, especially the porn ones.
But the porn is always overlooked because >muh pp
But some game is the same genre gets called plagiarism because >OMG THEY HAVE A DINOSAUR THAT BREATHES AIR
lmao
4 months ago
Anonymous
fanart is only tolerated to the point where the fanartist start demanding money/patreon bucks for the fanart/fangame
4 months ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't know
Just check patreon for the fartist that earn the most money in the adult catergories
spoiler; they all do fanart of the newest thing and have been doing it for decades almost
4 months ago
Anonymous
Insomniacovrlrd was ceased and desisted out of making pokemon porn for pay. So, he had to design his own not!pokemon to keep making money. Nintendo is ruthless and will get you if you achieve enough notoriety as long as they have the law to back them ip.
Anon, today is validating that the pals are pokemon fusions, tomorrow you're going to demand from us to call you a woman.
Pokemon should honestly just die already. Even its creators want to be freed from its autistic clutches.
Pajeet is a stereotypical indian name like Nigel is an English (country) name and John is an American name . Basically, they are being called an indian in relation to (megative) indian stereotypes. Such as astro turfing agents and scammers.
> Company founded by crypto-bro silently drops game after a few trailers over a couple of years > Just an above average game that is an improved version of ark with pokemon knock-offs > Sells millions in a couple of days and poke-gays project and seethe about getting the same game for a decade
how did gamefreak fumble such an easy bag?
>plagiarism is fine and a-ok if porn does it
fanart is legally considered plagiarism
selling any work containing protected IPs if you're not the IP holder, is copyright and distribution infringement btw
He's right though
Purely legally speaking i.e. how the ones accusing god of plagiarising pokemon have been doing, using even seemingly derivative names, tittles, etcetera that are reminiscing of a unique IP, is plagiarism, so they should be sued by basetendo.
the number of people so lacking in basic common sense to not understand that rescaling a model doesn't change its topography is fricking astounding
i get that this is a culture war thing now so people will take whatever "win" they can get, but please, you're making yourselves look like fricking morons.
>apply the same logic p*ketards use to what their precious furry porn generator has stolen >they suddenly become blind
hmmmmmm
dbbros, they cant keep getting away with this
I'm ostensibly on palworld's side even though I think it's a generic FOTM trend-chasing slop game, because I don't believe in intellectual property or copyright and I don't wanna see TPC trample over them.
>TFW this whole controversy is proof tendies are as braindead moronic as snoys >TFW wish all console warriors would frick right on off wih their moronic bullshit.
All fanboys are moronic. The only gaymurs that are even remotely intelligent or have an opinion that's worth listening to is idorts because they've played a bit of everything and know the positives and negatives or different gaming spaces
>be me >buy palworld >play it for a few day >t8 comes out >drop palworld >have fun mocking tendoslaves for being absolutely ignorant about copyright
i despise furries so much it's unreal
Who cares? I would never mistake it for Mewtwo or official Pokemon nor would anyone else. Nintendo has had nothing stolen from them, no one has lost any money, and there has been literally zero harm done of any kind whatsoever.
Literally what the frick are you homosexuals b***hing about? Stop treating Nintendo as a religion just because you played Pokemon when you were still in elementary school.
It's easy to rouse nintenbots, just release a game that does what Nintendon't. Watch them blameshift and say "NOOO IT'S THE POKEMON COMPANY BLAH BLAH" yeah but.. they have to make the games run on Nintendon't shitty hardware from 2016
Why do people need to defend either pokemon or palworld
Like who cares, no one has any stake in those games. People posting on twitter and here didn't make them
They're just products
Why didn't just shut them down over the last two years when they published trailers and gameplay? They didn't care then and you people think they have the case now?
>posts two different monsters
>"omg literally the same guy"
>autistic furry nsfw account
pottery
Also when was the last time Gamefreak acknowledged Mega Evolutions? Maybe Mewtwo’s Final Smash in Smash?
I don't get it
Palworld devs copied a frickton of pokemon for their creatures, whether just ripping off the general concept/design or actually copying assets.
It's been a source of drama for about a week now.
Even if there was definitive evidence of stealing assets, who gives a shit? Pokemon is worth over 100 billion.
Honestly, they could've put more effort into changing it.
>paying lazy devs for an unfinished game
>
lazy devs for an unfinished game
this "unfinished game" is better than every pokemon game i've ever played. frick game freak
The hilarious thing about this narrative is that Game Freak has the resources to expand it's team and has had plenty of time to do so. This problem has been going on for well over a decade. This isn't some small developer that was thrust into success on an early access and has to decide whether to invest in exanding it's team when they've only got one game to stand on and might not last long enough for that investment to pay off.
Pokemon is one of the biggest juggernauts in the gaming industry but Game Freak has been content to just rake in the cash because as their games get lazier and lazier they still keep making record sales since everyone buys the new pokemon game regardless, sucks on pokeballs, and then complains after the fact.
The Pokemon Company is so amazing, I can't believe god plagiarised dogs equines birds and turtles off them and populated our world with them. Nintendo needs to sue the pope now.
whoever made this image is a moron because these are clearly a ripoff of mega heracross and salamance
imma keep it a buck fitty with you, the Palworld designs are straight up better in most cases.
>datamines
>reveals old placeholder art for lunaris
palworld could sue the guy for revealing company information
but he doesn't realize that, just like that moron that tried to hide pokemon mod behind a paywall.
fricking morons all of them.
Left: Snatchmon
Right: Frieza
>old placeholder art for lunaris
it's a different Pal
>just like that moron that tried to hide pokemon mod behind a paywall.
holy grifting
and then they literally try to accuse palworld of the same crime they themselves are committing
This kinda looks like Cresentmon or one of its preforms from Digimon.
>An entire, complete model is placeholder art
sex with robots
>palworld could sue the guy for revealing company information
Could Pokétards embarrass themselves even more than they already have?
wow guys i cant believe pokemon has PLAGIARISED digimon
cancel tpc
they use ai btw
and hate the gays
10 years from now everyone will be using AI
They already are. A recent survey of AAA game devs revealed that the majority of them are already using AI tools in their workflow, or are working on developing & implementing them. The big guys obviously aren't just going to use the free shit online, they're going to train their own models on whatever their "style" is.
Man, and i'm losing any opportunities i had to ever design creatures to literal npcs with a magic art machine that do nothing but copy already existing pokepaldigimons
Isn't that the armor suit Mewtwo wore in the movie?
ENTER
BROOOO NOOO
you cant post this
what if TPC comes knocking on your door, Anon?
wtf
Toriyama? Sue POKEMON
Bro, toriyama should literally sue Wu Cheng’en
WTF NINTENDO SUE DRAGON BALL PLEASE
Seriously, did dragon ball really invent head-tail? There must be some mythological creatures look like this, right?
The pal is legitimately closer to this thing than the mewtwo mega the twittard is comparing it to. I'm not even sure you can consider the black thing even a copy of the mewtwo considering the obvious differences it has.
Pokemon copied Freeza
More accurately, they copied Giegue from Mother
No it was Frieza it always was Frieza since the original Mewtwo.
Mewtwo is a ripoff of Frieza but Mega Mewtwo Y is a ripoff of Giegue
>b-but muh nip convenience store kid we can pit this on!!!!!
>t. chang publisher
it doesn't stop until Beijing is cratered
Unironically an improvement
I remember there was a period of time where LoL or Dota 2 would release a new champion and then the other game would release a similar looking champion. Nobody cared as much as pokegays do now
this shit has been going on since time immemorial, hell look at golden age capeshit
tendies are deranged, actual cult
>Come on Ganker
>Literally more than half the board is Palworld filled with HEHEHAHA TENDIES BWHAHAHA
>Wow, did you reply to me? This is literally rape, how sensitive are you?
>steal from the homosexuals
>give to the people
I KNEEL BEFORE POCKETPAIR
It really is a strange coincidence that so many animals on Earth have fur, four legs, two eyes, a nose, and a tail. Like, what are the odds of that? Cmon, that shit was on purpose.
Design aside, whats the deal with the liars?
>scaled to fit
wow so he shrunk or enlarged the model... that definitely changes the shape and structure of the model. do these morons not realize the palworld devs could have literally just taken a pokemon model and change the size themselves
He literally confessed to it you stupid frick. You don't have to keep defending an admitted liar.
do you know what scaling is????
>nintendies defending a liar just to feel outraged
I cant imagine being such a worthless piece of shit for cartoon animals and a billion dollar company
You are genuinely moronic
Yes (You) are
you do understand what scaling a model means, right? he admitted to scaling the models because if you rip the palworld model and the pokemon model they'll be different sizes because the palworld creature is bigger or something. but it still has the same shape and design. nowhere does he say "yea i faked everything and they actually aren't rip offs and it's all a lie." you are actually really stupid it seems
>"if someone deliberately withheld the facts, you should probably trust everything they say"
Remind me to never get lost in a shopping mall with you, or we might starve to death.
so you're just a dumb shill who doesn't understand scaling then, got it. thank you for the conversation sar
No, no, it's you who doesn't have a shred of critical thinking.
>he thinks scaling is LITERALLY scaling
>why would someone go on the internet and lie?
How do you turbo hyper autistic morons even manage to stay alive?
>morons like you jump down his throat over split hairs like "THE MESH ISNT THE SAME SIZE"
>that means he lied about everything
have a nice day
that wasnt withholding the facts.
If i said "i was well dressed at the party", and someone says they hated my top hat, and i respond with, "well technically the hat was barely off in color from the rest of the outfit" thats not withholding the facts, thats just someone trying to nitpick, and im just barely trying to entertain their counter argument, when in reality theres no need to, because it doesnt change the events stated.
Even if he didnt withhold evidence, im not going to just believe him. but your argument is just as stupid in this case.
>I'm not going to blindly believe the obvious liar who tried to trick people into believing him
>believes that whatever that guy said is true, because it's convenient to his own arguments
Again, how do you manage to stay alive while being this brain dead?
Looks like you're sucking on your own balls.
>absolutely mind broken
Go be autogynephilic somewhere else, fraggot
you clearly didnt read what i just wrote, i said i wouldnt believe him either.
also, you claim he lied, but cant provide evidence.
the best you guys have, is twisting his words.
im not believing either of you. if you want me to believe your side, stop twisting words, and provide evidence. attacking his character doesnt mean he did or didnt lie. because the reason of a lie isnt what ppl are interested in, but if the artists did, or did not rip the assets, which is unrelated to this guy.
>"if someone lied, you should not question what they say after"
literal npc behavior
>provide evidence
The guy lied, He dig his own grave and lost all credibility and good faith.
Shouldn't have lied in the first place, anon.
show m proof he lied. (he may have, im just saying, fricking prove it, instead of repeating bullshit)
because you guys dont know what "scaling uniformly" means... if you understood what that meant, u would feel moronic.
>show proof
>pls proof
>give me proof
Are you sure you want proof, which is plenty posted itt alone or are you just trying to damage control?
Honestly, that guy should just delete his profile.
He will never be a famous influencer now
it's over for him
lmao
lol
>believe what he said
What is there to disbelieve you gigantic moron? You can see with your own eyes that the mesh matches the Pokemon and the ripoff.
So I guess the dude issued an apology and made himself look like a massive liar despite not doing anything wrong... for no reason whatsoever? That's what we're going with?
he didn't make himself look like a massive liar. he just didn't say he scaled the model. which literally does not affect the main point in the slightest. if i took the bokoblin model from botw, scaled it down to a mini version, and changed the red to green, that wouldn't make it magically ok because the model is scaled down lmfao
I'm talking about him issuing an apology. That made him look like a massive liar and if he didn't actually do anything but scale the models then it was a dumb move to apologise for it.
you've quite literally seen in this thread how palworld shills will latch onto any tiny thing to try and disprove it. like how someone will completely ignore your well-made argument because you made a typo somewhere. apologizing doesn't change the original point at all, stop focusing on it
>affect the main point in the slightest
what main point tho? that they are ripped models? that they are 1:1? Just similar?
Dude was obfuscating the models trying to present them in a way that would make people think they are same as pokemon models. That's why scaling matters. He basically used it maliciously. But obviously not only scaling. Way he presented his "evidence" was like that. His phrasing. All of it.
Fact is - they are different models with different proportions different topology and different rigs.
But instead people are going around saying it's same models with stolen pokemon meshes and rigs
What are you fricking babbling about you schizo
He overlayed the meshes and scaled them to the same size for comparison, so you can see the obvious rip yourself. That's it. The bickering over words is just twatter politics.
that's not how you compare models if you are honest dumbass
he should've done SIDE BY SIDE comparison with topology clearly visible. Instead on obfuscated models by merging them.
What are you not understanding?
Again they are DIFFERENT MODELS with DIFFERENT TOPOLOGY and DIFFERENT RIGS
nothing is ripped
You know what, that's a good point. I didn't consider that scaling the models would allow him to obfuscate the meshes in that manner.
People act as if because uniform scaling does not change the mesh it isn't done arbitrary. Twitter user CHOSE to scale it in a specific way without ever mentioning it or explaining why he scaled it this way and not another way.
It's all clear frickery with a clear goal to troll people. He doesn't give a frick about accuracy or he would never recorded low res twitter videos.
I kinda dismissed the criticisms cause I too argued that scaling the models doesn't change the model. This whole debate turning into a culture war schtick with everybody trying to "own" eachother didn't help me budge on my opinion.
I gave the guy too much credit, but it makes sense that he'd be deceptive in that way. After all he's only doing it to attack them over a weird moral outrage, not to earnestly prove guilt.
I hope you liked and subscribe to him and venmoed him money.
Because getting clout and being le epic ecelebrity on twitter is the only thing these morons care about.
Remember, if you're on social media, only the weirdos you'd avoid irl are the ones who are eager to be seen as virtuous.
That gay probably jerks off to pokemon gore or some shit, 100%,
To be fair I think this post he made is also a lie. He doesn't give a frick about animals. He did it only to troll people and to create more drama.
>UGH THEY ARE THE SAME IF YOU CHANGE THEIR SIZE
fricking
inbred
dumbass
refer to this
dumb frick
why didn't he say that he scaled the model to fit his argument?
seems pretty dishonunest
run out of responses on the script, shill?
but if you have to change the size of something to fit, isn't that just proof that it's not the same model?
here's your final (you). thanks for playing, shill
just say you have no argument instead of acting like a petulant child.
this is an 18+ board after all.
Because it's fricking irrelevant to anyone with a brain, but then braindead twitter troons like you made a big deal about it so he apologized.
Because he didn't realise that he was talking to 80 iq third worlders who don't understand modeling.
>durr but the pal is bigger how they copy???
>who don't understand modeling.
So if we're going on the assumption that they're stealing models from pokemon, why would there be a need for the model itself to be rescaled individually when all that would happen using the unreal engine?
there's just too many hoops you have to jump through to even get to that conclusion.
the guy even admitted to omitting information
I don't know what else to tell you.
>why is there a need to slightly change your stolen assets to avoid a lawsuit
Tell me how you manage to breathe while being so moronic
>stolen assets
look at the date of this trailer
if the assets were stolen wouldn't nintendo have cracked down on it 2 years ago?
>Tell me how you manage to breathe while being so moronic
Why, do you need help breathing?
>half the shit in the trailer isn't even there anymore
damn thats crazier than the 'muh ripoffs' shit
>copy and paste model
>shrink it
>IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE ITS SMALLER
You frick your sister and your mother?
Black person the animals chosen as scale model dont even have the same standing animation
He had to shrink it down and hide it and he still failed
But you blind bucks cant even see it
The standing animation doesn't change the model from being the same. The models shouldn't even be able to overlap.
>tails are different
>ears are different
>feet are different
>proportions are different
>they overlap
because its four legged animal everything with 4 legs overlap
>leg meets the body at the same point
>Tail meets the butt at the same point
>Head is attached to the body at the same point
It goes beyond "well they're both dogs", it has the same limb length and everything just individual parts have been edited.
Lmao where the frick do you think the tail connects to, moron? Palworld infringed copyright because they didn't redesign the common spinal structure of all vertebrae?
>your legs meets the body at the same point
>Your Head is attached to the body at the same point
Wow you need to sue other humans for copying you
>basic body anatomy
>literally copy nintendo
Nintendo, hire this man as a lawyer he has this case dead to rights!
If only Nintendos lawyers were as competent as he is
Are you blind or moronic? It's clearly an accurate mesh of the Pokemon, resized for comparison. He's saying it's not "exactly" the same down to every polygon, but it doesn't have to be to be considered plagiarism.
>but it doesn't have to be to be considered plagiarism.
uh yes, yes it does. that's the entire point of plagiarism. if the art deviates from the original, than that becomes it's own original art. you may not like it, but that's just how it works.
please fricking learn a thing or two before speaking you stupid little zoomie c**t.
>if the art deviates from the original, than that becomes it's own original art. you may not like it, but that's just how it works
That is literally not how it works you moronic 12 year old mutt. If someone made mickey mouse with slightly bigger ears and blue pants Disney would have sued them to the ground. At least before he became public domain.
>If someone made mickey mouse with slightly bigger ears and blue pants
Yes that's literally how it works except it's not as simple as you put it. With enough differences, it becomes its own.
Also these palworld monsters are much different than just slightly bigger ears and blue pants.
Its funny because you probably see knock offs everywhere you go but you don't say "wtf plagiarism!!"
Yes I do, especially when it's as glaringly obvious as palworld.
Sorry timmy, I don't keep exact notes on pedoisraelite media bullshit. But just like this guy's "apology," it has nothing to do with the point. Keep seething little homosexual.
now i see. you got me anon, i fell for your bait. nobody can be as moronic as you made yourself out to be.
Also Micket Mouse isn't public domain you absolute fricking moron, Steamboat Willie is. You can't even argue using facts. So go frick off and don't bother replying back to me dumb c**t.
Literally everything about him except for the gloves and grating ass voice are public domain, and I doubt the gloves are worth a case from Disney, because if they lose precedence they're fricked.
Yes that's correct. Literally everything about Steamboat Willie is public domain.
Nevermind. The gloves are fine too. The voice is all they have left.
>watches one htroonyguy video and thinks he's an expert on plagiarism
he literally says its uniformly.
can you not read?
if a take a picture of mario, and scale it uniformally smaller, that doesnt mean it isnt mario.
now if i made his hat taller, his feet massive, torso nearly non existant, hands feakisly different sizes, etc, then it would be scaled non uniformaly, and u could get to a point that even in court it may not hold up.
but if its purely all at the same proportions, just smaller/larger all together? then yeah, thats fine.
(I also prefer the palworld versions 75% of the time)
So what's he saying sorry for then? Since you think he did nothing wrong.
can you not read? he literally says for not being precise enough in the explanation, which has lead to ppl misunderstanding.
if i said someone handed me a dollar, and someone says "no it was a dollar and 1 penny" big fricking deal, fine, sorry, its $1.01
that doesnt mean hes apologising for making up the story, hes apologizing for not mentioning something thats extremely minor, and not really relevant, but for those trying to pick fights.
>Apologizes for being right
Fricking moron. Choked from the pressure, what a b***h.
Rescaling a model is not editing, it's just making it bigger or smaller, it's still the same model with the same mesh.
you have no way of knowing if he edited them or not
lmao
cute skirillchu
They probably could have. Alternatively if I were in their shoes to create models, I might have just copied some designs just for reference anyway. No point reinventing the wheel if the animations and such work for them. I won't say there's a standard way of making 3D models but many artists tend to make them in quite similar ways.
>Design aside, whats the deal with the liars?
People lie because everyone has realized in a world full of idiots that forgot the most important rule of the net: People lie on the internet and make shit up for fun.
You can push whatever narrative you want if you lie, because everyone will just listen and believe.
while theres still no proof, the argument that was originally told about the models wasnt a lie though.
Its still scaled uniformly. but theres plenty of other evidence to suggest this isnt a direct rip of the models.
either way, ppl b***hing about him "making it up" isnt really that true.
>liars
Did you read that fricking article?
Fricking journalists
>I resized the model to fit it in the tweet but the meshes are the same (LITERALLY what the homosexual was talking about)
Insert journalists
>TWITTER USER ADMITS HE FAKED THE ENTIRE THING
Im genuinely annoyed Im even commenting on this moronic pokemon model "controversy" but I hate journalists and their deceptive fricking lies so much.
>but the meshes are the same
You can literally see in the pic that they aren't
Sure which is why I dont believe the moron who posted the meshes thing.
But he hasnt admitted hes lying.
Thats just homosexual journalists making shit up
Frick this gay earth and how fricking dumb everyone in it is
>Shouldn't they check if the game models are really the same? Shouldn't they do some investigating and use editor tools to figure things out? But hey, it's easier to rely on an X comment and run with it. That's not very professional, especially for the big gaming news sites.
The absolute irony of this paragraph, holy shit.
Idiot didn't even understand that news sites have one purpose: Generating clicks, which means to generate sensationalism. That is 100% professional if you are a news writer
What actually happened was some guy made a few model comparisons to show how closely multiple Pals align with Pokémon, someone spun this saying that the comparisons were filled with misinfo because the person making those comparisons admitted that they had to scale the models, accusing them of having an agenda, which in turn made people spin around that the comparisons are fabricated altogether, and now a bunch of people are running with that even though scaling the models doesn't actually matter, and several other model comparisons/opinions from other modelers have openly stated that it is no coincidence that the models are that close.
No no
Comparisons WERE filled with misinfo. Every new post made by him created MORE AND MORE confusion because of how they were presented and worded.
Saying he was spreading misinfo is 100% accurate.
He did indeed have an agenda.
Scaling DOES matter.
>and several other model comparisons/opinions from other modelers have openly stated that it is no coincidence that the models are that close
my dude
most of them FAILED to even PROVE that "models are close"
Obviously it's not a coincidence lmao devs are ripping off pokemon designs and fuse different pokemon elements together. None of that is relevant to x user who started spreading misinfo. He didn't even compare actual similar model. His 1st post was either wolf or cat (that's not even in the game)
We lie and grift the shit out of everyone and everything now because it is easy and we need money to survive.
People who cant create successful businesses or have no marketable skills will always go this route and tons of capable people are getting burnt out wage slaving when you can just lay in bed and make Tweets and reaction videos for 2-10k a month if you go viral enough times.
>umm havent you heard of cheshire cat lol? pokemon didnt invent sharp teeth and eyes!
Yep pokemon stole kamineko
WOW you sure showed me you dumb shit
This one is the biggest cope I've ever seen
>almost the exact same texture
>SO YOU'RE SAYING GAMEFREAK INVENTED CATS??
See
moron. That face didn't come from Pokemon.
WHOA IT SEEMS GAMEFREAK DID NOT INVENT SERRATED TEETH AS I CLEARLY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT
>he can't see the obvious copypaste of the pokemon's face compared to the other cats
Face blindness is a hallmark of autism
>literally the exact same texture
>SO YOU'RE SAYING GAME FREAK INVENTED TEETH!?
It's not plagiarism and nothing will ever happen to palworld legally but if you don't think they did a "copy my homework but just slightly change it bro" on a majority of their designs I refuse to believe you have eyes. It's so blatantly obvious
Actually, Pokemon stole from Digimon.
Who cares who did it first? Even if that's true it's completely irrelevant. There are models in palworld that are 99% identical to the Pokemon they copy but with elongated claws instead of puppy paw pads or whatever the frick. You Black folk are dumb as hell. You're just as bad as the nintendies that you hate
>W-who cares who did it first?
>I-It's like pokemon
>W-well okay maybe it's from digimon but they based it off pokemon
>Well e-even if pokemon took ideas from digimon they still stole the stolen idea from pokemon.
Ok well I concept your non argument concession I guess lmao. Take your fricking meds man god damn
You're tugging my fricking weiner.
You say this as if Pokemon isn't insanely derivative itself.
Give 10 examples.
let's start with the -mon part, shall we, ballsucker?
>Game Freak didn't invent the word "monster"
Woah, what a discovery! I'm already on my way to the police with your tip!
All the 120 original pokemon
Creative original games like Palworld are saving gaming. Derivative trash like recent Pokemon are killing gaming.
>Tendies big "haha I got you now!" moment is an unused placeholder that is not even in the game, only accessible by combing the files with a find tooth comb, purposely looking for ANY sort of proof for your argument
Really, Tendies?
Wait what do you mean it's not in the game?
homie it's literally just an unused asset, it's not part of the current game. I'll level with you honestly and it was most likely worked on, but probably canned for maybe being too similar to Mewtwo so the dev team didn't want to risk it and took it out. It does not show up in the game.
Oh. Aight well still.
They should've deleted the entire file then.
How about you delete your entire life.
I get it. There’s creatures. Thats where the similarities end. Pokemon is a turn based rpg and palworld is an open world survival sandbox. I don’t see the comparison.
Almost every review I’ve seen mentions pokemon yet this game seems like Ark more than anything. I just don’t see the value in comparing to pokemon. I love pokemon. I just don’t understand why we can’t let these games be their own thing.
The theme of Palworld is a dark humor parody of Pokemon specifically, even though gameplay-wise they are completely different. So it's definitely worth talking in reviews for an audience that might be curious about a Pokemon game, but they can do not so PG things, as well as inform the audience that the gameplay is NOT Pokemon at all.
There’s elemental powers that you can use by capturing the animal with said power, which is different to how most games do elemental stuff, in most games you play as the character that commands that element or there’s some magic system for it. Come on, it’s like you’re trying to not see how this game was inspired by pokemon, even the UI of the pokem… I mean pals looks just like legends Arceus, these are the most Pokémon looking non pokemon I’ve seen, maybe you agree that pokemon mystery dungeon isn’t actually pokemon either because it’s not the classic turn based formula, pokemon unite isn’t technically pokemon either, but come on. We know it’s pokemon
palworld devs could take the guy to court for data intrustion, since the model cannot be found anywhere through normal gameplay
but they're probably too busy hiring bodyguards to protect from crazy fanatics
Japanese companies will actually sue for copyright infringement for dataming too, I don't know how successful they'd be though
even more confusing is they're trying to use pokemon's own bootleg freiza as their example
What gets me is that these fanatics didn't think the company would lawyer up before publishing the game to see if they were breaking any laws or infringing on Pokemon.
>smug anime girl face used to discredit tendies
This will age well.
That looks sick as hell and will go on my team the day they add it in. Any other datamined pals?
This is a model from Warlords of Draenor, a WoW expansion released in 2014. Years later, Lycanroc was added in Sun and Moon in 2016 with extremely similar proportions and features such as four legs, a tail and sharp teeth. Of course I know that's just because they're both wolves, but according to cultists accusing Palworld of theft this is proof that they "stole" the model to make Lycanroc. So Blizzard should sue Game Freak, right? It's the same situation.
You're a moronic shitskin thirdie and will die before touching a woman.
The similarities are undeniable. The vast majority being because they're based on the same animal, but that wasn't an excuse for Palworld so it's not an excuse for Pokemon! Sue 'em to hell, Blizzard!
Thirdies are grasping hard, must suck not getting Pokemon and needed the counterfeit version.
>not getting Pokemon
Wut? Every one can get Pokémon. It's easily pirated and emulated. Every version. Every boring ass version
this.
sir, you are dumb perhaps? all pokemon games can be emulated, even scarlet/violet run better on PC than on switch, Scarlet Violet 4k 60fps 🙂 courtesy of Nintendo's shit hardware
>implying anyone wants to play Scarlet/Violet in the first place
kek
Hot take here. Both Direhowl and Lycanroc Dawn are lame designs an neither should have been added to their respective games without more design work. "A wolf but it's just a wolf" is boring as frick. At least try to make him look rocky or elemental. Or in Direhowl's case do anything with him besides boring type. The edgy Looney Tunes Lycanroc is cool and can stay.
Weird how tendie subhumans accused you of being a thirde.
Your English is actually pretty good.
I hope they add this as Lunaris Noct or something
Don't care
palworld is fun and pokemon is stale shit
>stretch something until it fits
Wow wtf thieves
>in the data
>IE, not in the game
>OH MY GOD THEY'RE STEALING
lmao
maybe it's a reference design?
damn bro they're desperate.
Pokemaniacs have no response to this.
nobody defends gigantamax stuff. but nice try trying to derail the thread, shill
dynamaxing is literally "scaling uniformly".
hes not derailing anything, hes leading by a literal example.
scaling w/o doing so uniformly is a massive deal, but hes not saying hes doing that, and no ones showing evidence of him doing that.
>nobody defends gigantamax stuff.
I do.
I don't even like Pokemon but it was great for giantess porn and created a new generation of size fetishists
What I really don't fricking get is why becoming huge is dyanamax while becoming huge with a new form is gigantamax, shouldn't it be the other way around because that they call gigantamax is dynamic
Mewtwo is literally just a Frieza knockoff to begin with.
>Palworld design that they left in the data
So in other words, not in the actual game. This could be a design they decided was too similar and opted not to use.
And the one on the right is a Giygas clone.
Boy do you sure like shit stirring however
I will never play the games but I watched the cartoon religiously for some reason.
>Vegeta's OG voice actor
>Duo from Gundam Wing
>Double D from Ed Edd and Eddy
Funstuff
Paleworld is not possible. There's something demonic about it. They must be cheating.
Absolutely nefarious. I can feel it in my bones.
>Take one of the most iconic designs in science fiction
>Elongate the head
>Remove the tail and put it on the back of the head
Dude original character!
>bipedal creature with forward facing eyes
It's been done a million fricking times, I'm sick of it
Fricking stole Frieza's design!!
>that they left in the data
So it's not in the game? then there's nothing to complain about, frickoff.
>pokemon invented embryos
It's been 3 days since the asset theft accusations were admitted to be fake and there are STILL tendies clinging to it in every thread. You can't make this shit up bruh.
I can't tell if I hate this guy more, the moist guy or xqc
>everyone knows he lied because he admitted it after not getting enough clout on twatter
How can you furries be so gullible and autistic at the same time?
>Steal Pokemon model
>Scale it to fit your knock off game
>Guy investigates by scaling it back
What's the problem here?
"scaling" doesn't completely change the polygon structure of the model
genuine ballsucker post
Get off your knees dude, you're taking Nintendo's dick so deep down your throat that I'm surprised you haven't suffocated. Impressive deepthroating skills aside, this is embarrassing that you're going this far to defend a billion dollar corpo that hates you.
Are you just malding and replying to everyone no matter what? The palworld models have a completely different structure to the ripped pokemon ones so you it's not possible to create them via just scaling the pokemon models up
Maybe if you got those balls out of your mouth, you could think a little more clearly and wouldn't make such moronic posts.
The frick? How do you know that he scaled it?
>Disgusted with palworld because of glorifies animal abuse
>compare pal with pokemon
Not making any sense.
not that I agree with the tendietroons on anything but there are degrees of difference here
aha, that's what the trap is good for
i never tried it
I got a mod that lets you put buildings closer to each other so now I have a bunch of them hanging over a fire shit is SO CASH
>homosexual reactst to proof
Why not just post the proof without the homosexual?
If you are citing a YouTuber as a source of reputable information, your defense is not a good one.
>ERMMMMM DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT LE SCALING IS HE LE LICHERULLY OVERLAYED THEM, OVERLAYING MEANS HE'S RIGHT
>NOOOO DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE HECKIN' CATTERINO'S LEGS AND PAWS AND TORSO AND MANES BEING DIFFERENT SHAPES THEY CHEATED THEY CHEATED THEY CHEATEEEEEEEEEEED SUE THEM NOW NOW NOOOOOOW
You homosexuals are so infantile it's pathetic. I sure hope you're at least getting paid to post like this 24/7/365, this is fricking goofy ass, miserable behavior.
who here says you dont know what scaling is? link the post. i bet youre going to link to a post talking about uniformly scaling.
and no, the other additions on the pals isnt part of the argument youre strawmaning. no one gives a shit if they copied pokemon or not. just that its moronic to say hes lying on no evidence. (he can be stupidly wrong, w/o intentionally lying)
seen the whole thread, and each copy of his post proves your statement wrong.
Explain how UNIFORMALLY SCALING is "making it up"/"Lying".
otherwise, gtfo
>ERMMMM SCALING
homie don't run away from the overlayed shit, anyone can take two seconds to see they have different topology.
Get a new cope troonoid.
run away from it? wtf u talking about. i never said they do or do not have different topology. i never said the guy is accurate or even telling the truth in his eyes.
im saying the argument is using false evidence.
you guys keep making up my arguments, instead of what im saying, and are doing it to him too. id hate to see how you interact with ppl in the real world.
now scale down mario and wario "uniformly" and overlay them
wow, they have the same proportions
this means wario IS mario
Is it marketers or are people pretending to be moronic or what? Wario doesn't have the same proportions as Mario no matter how you scale him down, you have to directly change his proportions.
You could not miss the point any harder dude. This gotta be bait bruh, there's no way.
Black person these palshits dont even have the same feet or ears as pokemon but fricking dogs that walk on 4 legs makes you think
>OHHHHHH theyre all the same scale
Because you're a fricking moron
Reported for posting dog dicks.
hes genderfluid chud
>...butt fricking dogs...
Definitely a nintendont post
>Wario doesn't have the same proportions as Mario no matter how you scale him down, you have to directly change his proportions.
Those dont even look remotely alike, what am I supposed to be seeing here?
>what am I supposed to be seeing here?
that they are different models, both based on real life animal proportions
So why does the non dog parts not line up? You can't own the dog form. Any spike anime hair styled dog is going to look similar. Tails don't match, tufts don't match, just the dog parts are similar because it's a fricking dog and not a bird
Since you seem to be a little slow, let's do an experiment.
Take two people, put them in separate rooms and tell them to make 3D models of a dog.
What are the chances all the "dog parts" are identical? How would two people not seeing what the other one is doing make the head to body ratio the same, legs be the same length, space between the legs be the same, length of the body be the same, height be the same etc?
There are 3 answers:
1. One model was made first, copied and had "non-dog parts" edited
2. One model was made first, used as reference end traced, with new "non-dog parts" being added in place of the old ones
3. They used the same 2D reference, which in Pokemon's case was the concept art
Can you grasp it a bit more now?
why does it matter? you do not need to compare models to see which pokemon they were ripping off.
Model comparison was done solely to check if they stole the models. When it became obvious that models and rigs are not stolen the twitter gay which everybody is quoting decided to start a misinfo campaign by presenting the models in an obfuscating way without much information or clear side by side comparison with topology and rigs visible.
Nintendo does not indeed own dogs, cartoon dogs, spiky hair or even pokemon-like artstyle. They don't even own parts of the designs.
All shit's done in palworld (as far as we know) was legal.
kek even ignoring the Vegeta hair this is absurd
if you cut it in half that is clearly shadow the hedgehog, sega should sue
Wario is literally a parody of Mario, yes. But if another company created him they would probably still get sued. And the irony is that he's more different from Mario than pals are from the mons they ripped off.
They were too lazy to even change Mario's name outside of the first letter being flipped outside down! Blatant plagiarism much???
you must be the type of person who thinks the monty hall problem is a 50-50.
Doesn't matter which door I open, behind every single one, I will find you sucking on balls.
>BRO Y DONT U JUST BELIEVE SOMEONE WHO WILLINGLY TRIED TO MANIPULATE THE PERCEPTION OF THE FACTS FOR HIS OWN GAIN?
Truth be told, i just reasonably despise homosexuals. They're disgusting.
Let's leave it at that.
>making up arguments
>doing it to him too
b***h you wouldn't even know what "strawman" means if it slapped you and fricked your mother kek
What I posted is exactly what you troon freaks have been crying about and why you felt the need to respond to begin with since I made fun of you for it.
That twitter troony is wrong, you tourist trannies are wrong, you're getting dabbed on and there's nothing you can do about it.
Don't even bother responding, I'm closing the thread, hiding it and deleting it from my history so I won't ever see your mentally ill shill consoomer troony response.
SCD (seethe, cope, dilate)
>UUUUUHM LIKE NO? UR WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO?! WHAT PROOF! LMAO IM BLIND
anon, your damage control is obvious
You keep being unreasonable and honestly lacking common sense and critical thinking
These things alone would be proof, you're arguing in bad faith or to push your narrative or brand any opposing voice and opinion as not being credible.
Honestly, your only answer will be:
>OMG LIKE UR CRAZY IDK ANYTHING UR TALKING ABOUT
P*ketards will never recover from this
Even gamefreak wants the franchise dead thats why they keep feeding you the slop they do
you have no self-respect
delete your social media, tie a rope around your neck and jump in front of a train
>icant prove it
k
u may want to work on your social skills, theyre worse than my spelling and grammar.
this post
should help you understand the basic argument being presented... maybe... maybe youll still reinterpret it into something unrelated again.
>the topology is different
>no guys, its totally the same u cant prove anything waaaaaaaah
>proceeds to claim that pokemon invented animals thus anyone making an animal with elemental powers is a pokemon rip off
Thank god i wasnt born autistic.
wtf i hate bootlegs now
>George Lucas invented aliens
If you have to fake your evidence to "prove" that something happened... then it didn't happen. If they really stole models you could just line them up as-is without having to scale limbs and shit to make them "match".
you sounds like
can you link to actual proof? and not him saying "scaling uniformly"?
looks like a Bulbasaur to me
or one of those big ones, like Bulbasaur's dad or whatever.
>clickbait headline and israelitetuber spouting total bullshit
Wow that proves everything.
>Misreport an admission of copying that didn't happen
>Report this with a grass Donphan header
"Journalists" should better having never done any original work themselves.
>Donphan
Ever heard of a mammoth?
Do Pokemon uncles really?
>Fromsoft fans being civil about Lies of P
I mean, I didn't see them fabricating evidence to accuse it of a crime. They may not have liked it but they didn't claim it stole assets.
they just spammed to death every threads about it screaming it was a ripoff of their precious Bloodborn and how it was obviously very very very very inferior.
Okay? No one said they had to like it. If Pokemon fans merely disliked Palworld that'd be one thing, but they're outright accusing it of stealing.
Fromsoft fans are too busy arguing over which Dark Souls is the one true king to care about Soulslikes, which is why Niohgays act like attention-starved children and Twinkgays behave the exact same way.
That being said outside of Ganker things are indeed rather civil. For fanbase other than tendies that is, they act the exact same way everywhere.
same shit. Every single threads or tweets were crying about it. As if "vaguely victorian era" was invented by FromSoftware
Dude how are you not understanding what's being said? They didn't LITERALLY accuse it of the crime of plagiarism. They complained about how similar it was but there was no call for From to take legal action over "stolen models".
>Every single threads or tweets were crying about it
nobody cares dude, nobody cares
it's just that...nobody cares
The comic is japanese it's probably a different sort of fanbase over there
Palworld got more threads in a single day than both of those games combined have ever had and every single Palworld thread has been talking about Pokemon.
The craziest thing is that there are like 50 games that genuinely did steal Pokemon's gameplay but they gave them a free pass while freaking out about Palworld which has Ark's gameplay. Nothing about this makes sense.
>there will never be another WoFF
i liked that game
too bad the story was cringe and i couldn't get the earth monster anymore
the real issue with palworld isn't that they copied design themes of pokemon, it's that the resemblance of a few pals to pokemon raises the question of "Did they steal assets in the form of pokemon models rather than make the models entirely from scratch?" Simply changing the design wouldn't be enough to avoid legal trouble if they straight up stole the pokemon models. This is known as derivative work and its illegal.
>Did you see this guy's comparison of Pinkachu and Pikachu? I think they might have plagiarised the design
>Actually that's been debunked, he admitted that he scaled it to make the comparison which means he completely faked it and nothing was plagiarised
>more made up evidence this time of something that isn't even a pal or a model
good one
Now use the actual Palworld model of the Pikachu knockoff.
>make your own fake ripoff instead of using one of the so-called 'blatant' copies palworld has
seems like a sound argument
sex with pinkachu
Ganker only thinks palworld didn't copy pokemon because it's the contrarian opinion to the popular one that it did
I bet you asked you mom to suck your balls when you were drunk one time.
if you ask these same people if undertale copied earthbound it'd be a resounding yes
At this point I don't care if they copied them or not. And I'm not gonna defend Palworld because it looks like a lazy Ark clone. But I hope people "borrow" more creative inspiration from Gamefreak and Nintendo. They deserve it for being lazy pricks.
I do not give a FRICK if the designs aren't original. Pokemon designs haven't been original since inception, they just were once pleasant to look at, and a lot of the designs in Palworld are pretty pleasant.
THE GAME IS FRICKING BORING ASS EARLY ACCESS SHIT THOUGH.
Can they frick themselves using their protruding heads (or whatever you call them)?
Looks like any 80s and 90s anime enemy, which pokemon was inspired by for mewtwo
Nintendo! Sue Akira toriyama!!!
This bring me back to the genshin day
>Zelda invented grassy field
>Zelda invented swimming
>Zelda invented stamina
>Zelda invented grass burning
>Zelda invented parachute
What a fricking clown show
Genshin won
Umm... Pokemon bros? Lycanroc's design got stolen AGAIN!
To clarify, this is a joke and it was not stolen. I have to clarify so that braindead Pokemon fans don't take it seriously and start agreeing with it and spamming that Minecraft stole from Pokemon. Yes, they are that stupid.
were you expecting a lul or a kek for this moronic post
>pokemon invented moving the base of friezas tail
>be 3d artist
>take sphere
>make an oval
>oh my god im litcherally plagiarism whoever invented spheres
>sue myself
Palpoos won't admit it, but they know there is legitimacy to the coming lawsuit.
surprised you can use a keyboard when you've got Nintendo's multiple ballsacks in your mouth. impressive.
>noooooooo you can't point out an obvious asset rip you must be on the company's payroll
The fricking irony of fiverr jeets saying this
>gaise gaise if something is clearly similar to a concept that already existed before its literally plagiarism
No surprise coming from the people that probably took sonic ocs too seriously and still do
How did Temtem get away with "stealing" Bulbasaur and Chimchar's models for two of their starters? I mean, they have similar proportions and colors so that means they MUST have stole them, so where was the freakout from tendies?
Yooooo wtf is that a fire monkey?
POKEMON DID IT FIRST!
P L A G I A R I S M!
Notice how they look nothing like Pokemon and how Palworld's models look so much like the pokemon down to the fricking color schemes and behavior.
??? You have have a brain tumor or something, they all look like Pokemon to me.
You're just trolling at this point if you think they look identical to Pokemon. Since when does Pokemon have a plain orange monkey, a gemstone tortoise and whatever the frick that thing on the right is supposed to be.
Try again
In no shape or form do they look anything like the other monkey. They did their own design. Being a red monkey isn't copying. Being the same design is,.
sorry hes literally copying the orange monkey
Nintendo needs to sue
they're investigating now
only two more weeks!
"investigating" so that people like the idiots here stop sending them emails about how much they LOVE sucking GameFreak's wiener and that there's this evil EVIL game out there trying to tread upon that wiener's territory
such cuckery to fight and defend a business that just wants your money lel
You're just trolling at this point if you don't think they look identical to Pokemon.
> Since when does Pokemon have a plain orange monkey,
Chimchair
>a gemstone tortoise
Terapagos
Do you even know the game you are shilling for?
damn, a purple dog! must suck balls!
Bruh that's literally Chimchar from Wish lmao.
>Even more blatant ripoff with evolutions
>nuh uh they look nothing alike
>there color scheme dont match
This is bait right?
Because while the concept is similar the design itself is original.
Palworld copies the design wholesale, and in some cases even seems to use the same assets just slightly edited.
Come the frick on bro, that's an insane stretch. If you have to stretch this much then that means the design is just original.
Yeah this one is just pathetic, especially since it's clearly inspired primarily by decky-duey
What about Japan loving hooded archers don't you understand? Do you really struggle to imagine how 2 developers might come up with the same idea but ending up with two different but similar concepts?
American reading comprehension everyone.
>nintendo created wolves, dinosaurs, blobfish, lizards, lions, snakes and chinky hats
>Pokémon invented wolves
>Pokémon invented 2 color pants and mohawks
>Pokémon invented ronin
>Pokémon invented dinosaurs and flowers
>Pokémon invented mudskippers
>Pokémon invented lions
>Pokémon invented serpentine dragons
They put the least amount of effort into their fake Pokemon. Like holy shit, is it really hard to CHANGE THE COLOR? How about make it based on a different animal. It's really fricking clear they wanted to be Rated R Pokemon.
Palworld might as well be a huge fricking mod, game isn't finished and you idiots just paid the creators millions to run off with.
A samurai in baggy pants is in no way similar to a bird man and a creature with three heads.
completely sincere and without irony, the palworld designs are way fricking better
>bushi
HOLY SHIT GAMEFREAK INVENTED FEUDAL JAPAN
I think it's really funny that pokegays are so ineffective in talking about copyright because there's so many of them, and so inevitably the majority is moronic
You have 2-3 cases where it looks really sketchy, like primarina and the cat face one, but people spam the most meaningless vapid comparisons so those cases keep hidden lmao
>see this pal that looks like a ronin? it's actually a mix of two pokemon, not a ronin
>Asian drama
*yawns*
>ChinkPokomon looking ahh
If he really likes the game then why tf would he even throw shade at it?
You can criticize things that you enjoy.
You're in the half of the population with no internal monologue, aren't you?
Furries should be shot on sight though
And you're with the half of the population that's sucking on my balls.
Zoomer cult mentality. You can't have nuanced opinions, only utter worship or condemnation. Like when they boycott product because someone involved said they don't wanna murder blumpf.
Because you can enjoy the game for how it plays and still be intellectually honest and admit a frickton of designs are based on specific pokemon.
Not everyone explaining the blatant similarities is defending GF, that's just the strawman you have created in your head so you can ignore reality.
>are based on specific pokemon.
how many different iterations of a dog does pokemon have?
electric dog
fire dog
earth dog
ball dog
Raccoon dog.
Dog dog
Dog dog but red
Dog dog but red if it were a shitbull
Old dog
Candle dog
Dead dog
La muchaco dog
No, no, anon, you don't get it
the last dog is DLC so it don't count
So Game Freak plagiarised itself seven times, got it. Game Freak should sue Game Freak for that!
>mabostiff
>literally a mastiff
>but with eyebrows
omg how original
This proves both Pokemon fans and Palworld homos are insufferable c**ts
Pokemon literally revolutionized the gaming industry, though. palworld (gayworld) wouldn't even exist without Nintendo.
>halo invented fps
No it didn't. SMT did it first, which copied it from a porn game, and there was a game in development that did it BEFORE anyone did it (Wizardry 4, kinda of a stretch but eh...)
>"If you enjoy the game stop complaining about it"
Palworld gays are honestly a cult at this point.
Left one hotter so
If Nintendo had anything Palworld woulda never released and you assclowns know it, the devs for this are Japanese so they know better than anyone that Japan is guilty before innocent so when you begin development of a game that looks even slightly like Pokemon, you make DAMN FRICKING SURE Nintendo can't sue the living crap out of you.
In the world of intellectual property, Palworld did nothing wrong
>he thinks court cases happen in a day
Nintendo has known about Palworld for 3 years. The game would not have hit early access if Nintendo had anything.
>Nintendo has been digging through Palworld's assets for 3 years
?
Yes. The dev team is Japanese and have been open with Nintendo during development. The frick you think, they're making something that looks like Pokemon in Japan where your ass is guilty first before anything
It's not that you're guilty until proven innocent in Japan, they won't suck your balls like that, it's more like they won't even charge you unless they are CERTAIN that it will stick.
>It's been three years but the lawsuit-happy company will do it any day now
nintendo's lawyers aren't gonna keep my balls out of your mouth, anon
Injunctions sure as frick do.
Because even if Nintendo sues now and wins, what are their damages? How are they going to prove Palworld somehow caused them to lose money?
Why the frick would you ask me this. I'm not Nintendo's million dollar lawyer who can come up with a whole bunch of bullshit and make it work.
Bullshit court cases happen all the fricking time.
Looks like someone saw the Amber Heard trial and just decided to extrapolate that shit.
Copyright infringement doesn't have to involve loss of revenue, if someone is making money with shit you created and registered then that's all you need to stop them.
Also, stop saying "Nintendo" you fricking morons, Nintendo only owns publishing rights, the Pokemon franchise is owned by The Pokemon Company, Gamefreak and Creatures Inc.
Yeah, key word there: stop them. Not claim non-existent damages.
If they wanted to stop them, they would have done so before it released, and not after it made 10 million sales
>If they wanted to stop them, they would have done so before it released, and not after it made 10 million sales
You're so stupid. You are supposed to let them make all those sales so you can claim their money as compensation. Suing a dirt poor company does not get them money.
Compensation... for what?
Compensation compensates for loss.
What did Nintendo lose? Do they have a recently released Pokemon game with a substandard number of sales?
No?
I guess they didn't lose anything.
this
Palworld doesn't hurt Pokemon, the world is big enough for both to exist. Look at the sale for Scarlet/Violet despite being so shit
>Compensation... for what?
I'm not an experience, ivy league graduate, 7-figure income lawyer. Why would you ask anyone that. They are the experts who find the reasons and write documents, not me.
Not him, but copyright as long as it's registered has presumed damages of like 150k per infringement, and israelite lawyers would dissect the game and claim each pal is a separate infringement so it'd be like 15m plus punitive damages.
That's in the US.
True, in japan it's 50k plus ten years in a work camp.
Who said anything about damages? Nintendo and their subsidiaries are mostly known for issuing C&D and DMCA claims, they rarely claim actual damages, most of the time when they get paid is because of lawsuit costs, not for damages, the only time I know of that they actually got damages was with that guy who was selling roms.
So where's the C&D? Game's out and already made bank. Game was in development for 3 years.
>if you don't press charges against someone for punching you, then they didn't punch you
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
Why are you responding to me just so prove how much of an idiot you are? You should go disappoint your parents some more instead.
>deflecting
Now picture an apple
Now picture yourself making a point.
>can't picture an apple
>but you can picture my balls in your mouth
>can't picture an apple
I mean in the eyes of the law yes, if you don't press charges or file a police report/document the incident then you never got punched.
>in the eyes of the law
That's not what the twitter comparisons are talking about. They're simply pointing out the obvious theft. Whether Nintendo does anything about it doesn't change the fact that it happened.
>If Palworld plagiarise, it would have never released
Absolutely factual post
But p*ketards don't know anything besides jerking off to blue fish dog and humanoid bunny so of course they have no idea how game releases work
>game studio has to get the game approved for release
>people, publisher platforms, government, etcetera check for any possible infringements
>only if it gets the green light it can get released
>p*kelard unironically believe you just make game and release it everywhere
Amazing.
The "HE LIED" cope got thoroughly btfo in this thread, so they immediately move to the next moronic shilling tactic in the script. Is the gift card payout the same or does it gradually go down, sirs?
>SHILL SHILL SHILL
>YOU GOT BTFO BECAUSE I SAY SO
you're being too obvious
lurk moar, newbie
>accusations of lying stop only to be followed by multiple postings of muh prerelease lawsuit cope
Nothing suspicious here
What accusations? He literally admitted it. It's not an accusation, it's a confession.
He explained scaling to underage twittershits like you. Nothing he showed was a lie.
I am looking forward to making fun of Tendies for all time after this. 3 months from now no one will give a shit about this drama, but I will be posting @Nintendo every time there's a [element] [creature] from now on.
Palworld won.
>be nintendo
>shit out trillions of ai generated fantasy animal models
>copyright them all
>now nobody can make anything anymore
btw, all orange birds belong to me.
>lets swap the ears and add a duck bill
You should probably clarify that you're only talking about the head because I thought you were shitposting at first since the body is nothing alike at all. But damn the hair, head shape and those weird sticky out parts on the cheeks are extremely similar at the very least.
the only thing similar is the thing on their cheeks
You don't see the hair, eyebrows and head shape?
He doesn't see it because he's a troll
Anon it's closer to a dragon quest slime you actual blind moron
woah... it's the exact same model...
it's over for us Palsisters
The head clearly is, if you open them in Blender I guarantee you that the tris are all in the exact same place, in fact, someone already proved that the blue snake thing essentially uses a stretched out version of Serperior's gen 7 model and Primarina's hair.
And I know a shitton of you don't get it because you don't know jack shit about 3D modelling, but the probability of making two separate models from scratch and them being virtually the same is practically impossible, even Creatures Inc. themselves couldn't do it when they remade all the Battle Revolution assets for X and Y, it's an inherent thing to 3D modelling, you'll always end up with stuff in different places and configurations, the idea that Creatures and Palworld somehow created these extremely similar models by mere accident is asinine.
The head shape is identical, yeah. All their designs are frankensteins like these.
Oh shit this one's actually pretty bad.
Are you trolling or maybe blind? Are you really not able to see how they copy pokemon creature design?
Bad for Palworld I mean. That's the first case I see where they clearly copied and pasted a model outright, which is grounds for a legal reaming.
It feels like people are fricking brainwashed into talking about this game and defending it. The game itself is nothing special. There’s something weird about this.
what's weird is you sucking my balls without permission
>There’s something weird about this.
yeah, people don't like liars that's all
game is full of bugs and pathfinding is shit-tier
still fun game for early access
I don't like Palworld or Pokémon.
Palworld clearly bases a large number of its designs off Pokémon.
This is not immoral, but it is lazy.
The only thing worse than being a PalWorld hater is being called a Pokémon fan.
>draw a human being
>make hands attach to arms
>arms attach to torso
>frick... i plagiarized gamefreak because they made pokemon trainers and those a human beings
bros wtf man
how do i not plagiarize nientendu?
>draw an ice cream cone with a face
OH THE HORRORS OF PLAGIARISM
>be military man
>deployed in the incendiary unit
>trained to handle a flame thrower
>can't use flame thrower anymore because pokemon has a move called flame thrower
>Sergeant scared for his life that the TPC suits will come knocking at the door any second now
broos its over
>make human being
>make it wear a gucci red shirt, have a proud personality, always say "tsk tsk tsk" before every sentence, black hair, blue eyes, round face, 5ft9, sandals
>see another game developer take the exact same character, paste it over, tweak some lines, and change the name
>this is ok
Both look like derivative designs of giegue/giygas from mother 1
Underrated, he gotta bring this to Shigesato Itoi’s attention
im a part of palworld nation but you fricking morons who don't know what scaling means need to have a nice day, i dont know if you are moronic underage homosexuals or are legit fricking stupid. all that twitter dude did was scale the model to match the luxray model to show the similarities. you are a subhuman if you say that twitter homosexual "lied"
If I scale your model up so my balls can fit in your mouth, is that plagiarism?
>I'm totally a Palworld fan like you guys but can't you agree that they copied from Pokemon and Game Freak should sue them and take the game off steam?
Nice try.
If anything they copied ARK and replaced the dinosaurs with creatures similar to Pokemon. I don't see how this is a bad thing, Pokemon didn't invent monsters. Pokemon didn't even invent monsters in a slightly anime style, that belongs to Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior etc.
>creatures similar to Pokemon
Asset flips of Pokemon.
>be unreasonable and blind
>clearly futile to keep arguing in circles
>move to other shit
>OMG FRICKING SHILLS WHY DONT THEY WANT TO ARGUE ME ANYMORE WHEN I SAY THEY'RE WRONG THEY ARE LITERALLY CHANGING THE SUBJECT WTF GAMEFREAK SUE THEM!!!!
What is the gameplay-loop of Palworld?
capture pals, breed them to get better traits, use pals in combat against other pal-tamers
then capture female pal-tamers and breed them
You just know
Ark early game, Pokemon exploring combat middle game and factorio late game.
Don't care about plagiarism and never did. They could be 1 to 1 copies of pokemon straight up and I wouldn't give a frick.
Pokemon/Gamefreak apologists deserve as much shit as they can get, they happily accepted getting shit shoved down their throat for 2 decades at this point.
The fact that a pokemon-knock off made their game infinitely more fun and entertaining in 7 years with a shit budget and one of the modelers being a literal gunaboo kid, than gamefreak has since silver and gold genuinely makes me smile.
Murder is illegal, but you don't see me giving a shit when the pedophile is murdered by someone else.
w-w-w-wWHAT?! THis shit... is NOT okay.. @nintendo @nintendoamerica @gamefreak_info DO SOMETHING
The whole pokemon thing is moronic. Game is literally Ark but the taming is straight forward and you don't die the second you try exploring.
I like it. Torpor felt ass and some servers had tame/hatch times so long you needed to give up on your life to compete
Ark is literally about catching dinosaurs and pokemon has dinosaurs, so that rip off will be sued, palworld shill
My uncle works at TPC.
>2 different looking creatures
OMG THEY'RE THE SAME SUE THEM
>post a picture of a pitbull and a cane corso
THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BREED
>search pokemon on steam
>hundreds of results none of them named pokemon
wtf??
If there's no pokemon games on pc then it was just a matter of time someone took over the mantle.
Pokegays seething about palworld until the 25th hour
These people are so fricking moronic, gamefreak/the pokemon company and palword's devs (pocketpair) are both Japanese companies.
Japan has no concept of fair use in their legal system, this doesn't even need to go through international courts, if they had ANY legal case to sue, they would have already.
>OFFICIAL NINTENDO ANNOUNCEMENT
It's over.
Hell I remember when Temtem first came out in Early Access and people were saying the same things and asking why Nintendo didn't shut them down.
They can't. You can't copyright game mechanics and Temtem is far closer to Pokemon double battles than anything Palworld has done. Hell Coromon looks near identical to a GBA Pokemon game. Otherwise clone games wouldn't exist and we would only have one game per genre, which would be a very sad world to live in.
Granted, some Pals do look somewhat similar to some Pokemon, but only so far as to call a wolf a wolf and a dragon a dragon. IMO, a lot of Pokemon designs are pretty lazy in that a dog evolves into a bigger dog. If Nintendo can prove that Palworld did copy their models, then they have a case, but given that they hadn't taken the game down long ago when we have known about it for years now is rather telling. Nintendo is not really in the habit of letting a game go in development for years that may have infringed on their designs. They would have filed a cease and desist motion long ago. They have filed such motions against fan games for far less.
For instance, a lot of us say Grizzbolt looks like Electabuzz, but just as many people call it Totoro. Being inspired by what came before isn't a crime.
I call Palworld inspired by Pokemon, but plagiarism isn't what I first thought when I saw the game, but apparently that isn't what some people elsewhere on the Internet are screaming about, one of my friends was saying this and I respectfully disagree.
Drawing fake Pokemon is a pastime that many of us did as kids. Pokemon sucking balls, that kind of thing. Hell one artist even got his fake Pokemon featured in Temtem as one of the monsters there.
>january 25
Nintendo went after a Pokémon Mod for the game within 4 hours of it being released. Nintendo’s legal department acts swiftly.
>they would have a case
Nope.
I'll tell you straight up and go tell that to the twitter freaks.
The scope and overall state (those are very important words) of Palworld, cannot be considered a rip-off, plagiarized or copy of Pokemon.
Granted some Pal designs share some similarities with a handful of Pokemon, but if sharing similarities, even if blatant, would be enough to take a piece of art down, then you would have the porn you consume 24/7.
I correct myself;
Then you would NOT have the porn you so religiously consume and think about all day due to being a mentally ill and autistic furry degenerate.
If you keep stealing EVERY Fricking design idea from another game its literally plagiarism. We know where they got their design ideas from nobody is fooling anyone with this shit.
my homie there is literally a green cinderace in the game
Don't mind me, just plagiarised voltorb come get me nintendo
I can't believe that pokemon plagiarized Poland Ball like that
Pokémon has been an unchanging constant in many people's lives ever since they were children. Like eating Mom's veggie soup, it's comforting and brings us back to a simpler time.
Accepting that Game Freak has been sabotaging the games to fleece the fanbase for a quick buck is like accepting that Mom's veggie soup was from a can the whole time. It ruins that comfort, that fantasy.
That's why ever since Sword & Shield, the narrative has been that Game Freak are overworked / TPC is mean to them :'( (even though GF owns TPC) / it's impossible to make a quality game when you have so many creatures / a whole bunch of other excuses.
But then Palworld came and completely destroyed all the common arguments in Pokémon's defense. It's a low budget game, done in a dev cycle comparable to pokemon (at least 3 years but there was a full engine switch st some point, Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet had ~3 year dev cycles), and it looks great, runs great and plays great. It respects the player and doesn't need to rely on flashy style-over-substance gimmicks to sell itself. In 2024, Pokemon is pretty much sucking its own balls.
They have no argument anymore and are going through the stages of grief:
Denial - "Yeah this game is just throwaway shovelware, nobody will buy it"
Anger - "Why are millions of people buying this? You're horrible plagiarism / ai / crypto supporters!"
Bargaining - "Daddy Nintendo send Pocketpair to the principal's office and have them EXPELLED!!"
Are you homosexuals seriously implying that Nintendo wouldn't have tried to end Palworld from the first trailer? It's Tear Ring Saga all over again and they sure as hell wouldn't want that shit to happen again.
So unless the laws changed to Disney's level they really, really, can't do shit beyond asking to modify some Pals if at all unless they prove that the models are 1:1 theirs
>lawsuit lawsuit lawsuit
Thank you moronic shills for tacitly admitting that the assets are ripped, since you can't even discuss that point anymore and have to fixate on legal shit
>If they ripped the models they'd be sued
>HAHAHAHA YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT THEY ARE RIPPED HAHAHA
Not agreeing with your moronic claim, just pointing out your fixation on it since you can't disprove what people can see with their own fricking eyes.
>if at all unless they prove that the models are 1:1 theirs
homie, can you read? They would have to prove that its literally and factually theirs without even a 00000.00001% of mistake, they also tried to get rid of Tear Ring Saga from the moment it was announced so they got three whole years to do that with Palworld but now, after three fricking years, when the game got updates about its status almost yearly they will do something?
>T-they needed the data!
Boy, Nintendo is paranoid as frick with their IPs so they must/could (whatever you want) have filed a complaint at any court from the very start to get an order and force them to show their models at the slightest suspicion
I don't really give a frick about plagiarism, design whatever Palmon just shows The Pokemon Company needs to step the frick up, break free from its Nintendo chains and come to proper gaming hardware already
Nintendo always has hardware 2 gens behind feels like, their games are so ugly they could be run on shit from 2012.
PalWorld is ballin
no one really cares if palworld stole nintendo designs, if anything it makes it even better.
>be gamefreak
>do the same game for 30 years
>decide to just shit out the bare minimum
>hopefully the game bombs so you change contracts with nintendo and are allowed to develop something else
>p*keautists still buy it
>still forced to shit out pokeslop
>can't even outsource the development because of the franchise being what carries the whole company
Honestly, i don't even blame Gamefreak, i blame the p*ketards who buy literally anything
I stopped buying after Black/White, after that it was the occasional difficulty romhack, then other games. I can't stand how shit Pokemon has gotten, how have the games gotten UGLIER bro Colosseum looked better than Scarlet/Violet
They literally outsourced the development of BDSP. That's why it's on Unity, because that's the engine ILCA knows how to use.
>People are so fed up with Game Freak incompetence they defend a shitty ARK clone
You sure showed them. Pokémon will still sell billions copies btw.
Yesterday I played a pokémon music playlist in the background while racing around on my mount and it felt absolutely amazing. My childhood pokémon-adventure dream come true.
"I want to be the very BEST! Like no one ever was... <dun dun duddunnn>"
I also love that the double-jump deer is in this game, just like in Elden Ring. I loved the open world exploration from Elden Ring and I always wanted that game to have different types of mounts like dragons and giant birds, but here they are in Palworld, sucking on my balls.
>the designs don't look alike
>okay they look alike in these tweets but the guy lied
>okay the guy didn't lie but the designs weren't stolen
>okay they were stolen but that's a good thing
Paljeets shitting themselves
this is the strawmanniest strawman I've ever seen
you'd think if there'd be anything against the law that gamefreak would pounce, like they did with the guy who put the palworld pokemon mod behind a paywall.
>okay they were stolen but they aren't prosecuted yet
>okay they were stolen but d-dilate
The last whimpers of dying shills
>guy announces to the world he wants to steal your shit
>3 years pass
>get shit stolen
>everyone is talking about it
>just say you're looking into it
Your only option in life is to dilate.
can you not? There are creatures that some are blatant ripoffs of popular Pokemon, it features a system where you fight other creatures with your creatures, and you even catch, collect, and "train" your creatures.
The whole game seems fairly derivative in my opinion. It's a worse Pokemon, a worse Fortnite, and a worse Ark from everything I've seen.
Have you take a look at 'pals' ? They're all a copy of pokemons.
Even in the 'idea', they all follow the scheme of pokemons.
It's shocking.
You can't copyright ideas, sherlock.
We're speaking legally here.
Fanart is tolerated by companies, but purely legally speaking, every fanartist infringes upon copyright, especially the porn ones.
But the porn is always overlooked because
>muh pp
But some game is the same genre gets called plagiarism because
>OMG THEY HAVE A DINOSAUR THAT BREATHES AIR
lmao
fanart is only tolerated to the point where the fanartist start demanding money/patreon bucks for the fanart/fangame
>he doesn't know
Just check patreon for the fartist that earn the most money in the adult catergories
spoiler; they all do fanart of the newest thing and have been doing it for decades almost
Insomniacovrlrd was ceased and desisted out of making pokemon porn for pay. So, he had to design his own not!pokemon to keep making money. Nintendo is ruthless and will get you if you achieve enough notoriety as long as they have the law to back them ip.
Pokemon had three years to do something. Takuro Mizobe said have already cleared all legal reviews and no action has been taken so far.
> blatant rip-offs
> copy of pokemons
shitty but seemingly legal 3rd-world ones, and?
> fairly derivative
better than rehashing the same game with worse performance imo
> worse pokemon
only similarity it shares is the same gimmick and barely any story
> worse fortnite
would not really compare a survival game with a battle royal but sure, why not
> worse ark
KEK YOU CANT BE SERIOUS
Whole game rips off other games ideas and makes it a better "Pokemon" game by default compared to the shit we've been getting
you making it sound like its a crime to steal basic ideas and mechanics when every game or media has done that in some way
Anon, today is validating that the pals are pokemon fusions, tomorrow you're going to demand from us to call you a woman.
Pokemon should honestly just die already. Even its creators want to be freed from its autistic clutches.
Wtf is this shitty dumb term “pajeet”? And why do I keep seeing it everywhere on here?
please do the needful sir
Pajeet is a stereotypical indian name like Nigel is an English (country) name and John is an American name . Basically, they are being called an indian in relation to (megative) indian stereotypes. Such as astro turfing agents and scammers.
>and John is an American name
yea, that's probably changed by now.
We Tyrones now (only due to overrepresentation, it should be Juan)
Those are different designs
> Company founded by crypto-bro silently drops game after a few trailers over a couple of years
> Just an above average game that is an improved version of ark with pokemon knock-offs
> Sells millions in a couple of days and poke-gays project and seethe about getting the same game for a decade
how did gamefreak fumble such an easy bag?
legally distinct....lol. They aren't even trying to hide it.
>plagiarism is fine and a-ok if porn does it
fanart is legally considered plagiarism
selling any work containing protected IPs if you're not the IP holder, is copyright and distribution infringement btw
Fan art is only bad when it's done by ai. you dumb moron.
>Lewtwo
Hypocrisy is so easy
moron? hes not selling his twitter name for others to buy
>i-it's okay if you d-do it for f-free
A crime is a crime.
moron.
pokemon and palworld both start with a P, and have the same number of letters I noticed. Coincidence? Guess the lawyers will figure that one out.
He's right though
Purely legally speaking i.e. how the ones accusing god of plagiarising pokemon have been doing, using even seemingly derivative names, tittles, etcetera that are reminiscing of a unique IP, is plagiarism, so they should be sued by basetendo.
based palchads not giving a single frick about nintendo
nintendo lives rent free in their heads.
the number of people so lacking in basic common sense to not understand that rescaling a model doesn't change its topography is fricking astounding
i get that this is a culture war thing now so people will take whatever "win" they can get, but please, you're making yourselves look like fricking morons.
Like Game Freak did with Pokeballs?
balls?
Yes, they changed the scale. Still stolen though right?
Like those two things between your girlfriend's legs.
Ghostbusters did it first
>apply the same logic p*ketards use to what their precious furry porn generator has stolen
>they suddenly become blind
hmmmmmm
dbbros, they cant keep getting away with this
Are you on the palworld side or the pokemon side? I can't tell.
I'm ostensibly on palworld's side even though I think it's a generic FOTM trend-chasing slop game, because I don't believe in intellectual property or copyright and I don't wanna see TPC trample over them.
>take monster design
>improve it 100 times by removing its moronic handle
Honestly based.
Nintendo explain yourselves right fricking now.
>DOG USED GROWL
>DOG USED BITE
>DOG USED CRUNCH
wowww Nintendo can you EXPLAIN yourself??? ripping off history is really low
>TFW this whole controversy is proof tendies are as braindead moronic as snoys
>TFW wish all console warriors would frick right on off wih their moronic bullshit.
All fanboys are moronic. The only gaymurs that are even remotely intelligent or have an opinion that's worth listening to is idorts because they've played a bit of everything and know the positives and negatives or different gaming spaces
Tbh Mewtwo was always a Frieza clone. Early Pokemon art was heavily inspired from Toriyama.
Fitting, the series plays like early DQ games
>be me
>buy palworld
>play it for a few day
>t8 comes out
>drop palworld
>have fun mocking tendoslaves for being absolutely ignorant about copyright
i despise furries so much it's unreal
HOLY FRICKING SHIT!! LOOK AT THIS EVERYONE!
WTFFFF
>try to mislead
>admit to having lied
>YOO WTF WHY ARENT U BELIEVING HIM WHO ADMITTED TO LYING? FRICKING SHILL
Who cares? I would never mistake it for Mewtwo or official Pokemon nor would anyone else. Nintendo has had nothing stolen from them, no one has lost any money, and there has been literally zero harm done of any kind whatsoever.
Literally what the frick are you homosexuals b***hing about? Stop treating Nintendo as a religion just because you played Pokemon when you were still in elementary school.
This game has fricking mind broken so many cucks, it's beautiful
It's easy to rouse nintenbots, just release a game that does what Nintendon't. Watch them blameshift and say "NOOO IT'S THE POKEMON COMPANY BLAH BLAH" yeah but.. they have to make the games run on Nintendon't shitty hardware from 2016
Tbh i think a lot of Sonygays are also pretending to be offended because they can't play it, it will calm down once they get their port.
>it will calm down once they get their port.
I thought Phill wanted it to be an exclusive, oh right he's pulling a Sega...
Only "exclusive" to Xbox on consoles because they allow early access.
Maxing this shit out took an eternity.
I heard the frozen horse is the best flying mount, where do you get it?
Mountains on top right?
What level?
Tendies are subhumans
Why do people need to defend either pokemon or palworld
Like who cares, no one has any stake in those games. People posting on twitter and here didn't make them
They're just products
Looks cooler and isn’t in the actual game. What’s the issue?
Why didn't just shut them down over the last two years when they published trailers and gameplay? They didn't care then and you people think they have the case now?
Palworld has better designs than Pokemon. There are far more appealing designs than In the average pokemon generation
if they take designs from a game and improve it they arent stealing