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Context?
Big monster found its way to all human colonies. They found 2 ways to combat this problem before it becomes apocalyptic.
1. Revive its natural predator Jurassic Park style, and let nature take its course
2. Unleash an experimental virus that targets that monster and hope that it doesn't mutate or jump to other species
All companions in Starfield get mad if you choose option 1.
Release COVID
jfc
You just have to choose the vaccine over the horse dewormer, anon. Trust the science.
that would have been a better fit for mass effect
>only two "choices"
typical Bethesda writing
I've never played Starfield but to be fair reviving a billion giant mongoose to kill the billion man-eating giant snakes or whatever seems equally stupid
Sure, but in the game this method was already tested before and it worked flawlessly. So it has more scientific backing than the virus. Which makes the companions' negative reactions extra moronic.
Those animals are also entirely loyal and docile to humans, can perform labor as work animals and even act as an emergency food source. The microbe shit that "probably" won't mutate is dumb as frick.
so its basically
>coyotes are eating our chicken
>do we get super hunting dogs
>or release rabies
very cool
Well the coyotes in this case are eating (You) too but yeah.
Ok, hear me out
What if we put rabies in our super hunting dogs, then release them into the wild?
Probably would give you huge approval because not only are you trusting the science behind the virus but you're also eventually gonna rebirth a species that will then inherently have said science built into it
By "chicken" you mean "destroying entire cities"? Do you get kicks out of pretending to be medically moronic?
>futuristic space age civilization
>gets wrecked by weird insect things the size of a motorcycle
African Black folk with WW2-era weapons mounted on a Hilux manage to poach Rhinos and just frick with wildlife in general no problem. How come these space fricks with their laser rifles, rail guns, armored exploration vehicles, and low orbit weapons platforms can't deal?
>How come these space fricks with their laser rifles, rail guns, armored exploration vehicles, and low orbit weapons platforms can't deal?
Because bethesda writers
Terramorphs only appear on human settled worlds and usually in high population zones because they are heatleeches so all that orbital shit would just be fricking your habitable planets and people into oblivion
Put a bounty on the things and watch thousands of space rednecks grab their rail-shotguns, jump on their space four-wheelers and solve the problem for you.
I just find it very hard to believe that a generic insect melee monster is a legitimate threat to an organized and armed future space city. Humans were fantastic at eradicating dangerous predators back when our only ranged options were slinging stones. Unless these things have unlocked the mysteries of gunpowder, I'm just not buying it.
they should have ripped off prey (2017)
They also have mind control powers and some can turn invisible
homie just shoot them from really far away. Being able to move at the speed of car and kill things from a great distance are really, absurdly powerful weapons.
>some can turn invisible
Use your futuristic infrared goggles, space sonar, or any motion tracking apparatus. Or dust the hunting grounds with a fine coat of flour before you roll out. Turning invisible is a shit-tier power.
Kinda hard to “shoot them from really far away” when they actively show up in your major population areas full of people to get mind controlled
those space fricks with their laser rifles, rail guns, armored exploration vehicles, and low orbit weapons platforms can't even deal with ashta
ashta are basically just wolves that spit, there's no reason an entire settlement on planet bank robbery and homosexual space cowboys are scared of them and constantly on the lookout, or that a giant one is just an urban legend no one has ever confirmed until you walk into one within throwing distance of the walls
starfield doesn't make sense even by bethesdas low standards, all you can do is ignore it or make fun of it
To be fair, Ashta are a problem for the Freestar Collective. They build their homes out of sticks
They also had giant mechs, which are so powerful, they are banned, yet apparently were useless against ashta.
Bethesda's writing is actually worse than fanfic tier.
And not only is said natural predator not aggressive to humans, they kill scary monster at all stages of its life.
The writers just consider the actual science to be wrong and get mad when you don't trust theirs
This issue extends to the entire game. You're forced into this group that all basically have the same beliefs. You have to have them as companions, you have to do what they think is right, you have to feel bad if one of them dies, you can only romance people in this group. I can't have a character act in my choosing and then be forced to have him grieve over this random prostitute when she dies like in
>You have to have them as companions, you have to do what they think is right, you have to feel bad if one of them dies, you can only romance people in this group.
And for all that there's a gimmick start where they're all dead. So just start right over if you get that RNG. What the frick.
man I fricking hate how Lin and Heller become literal nonentities after the opening, they're both better than all of the constellationkeks
Lin's kinda cringe though
>can't romance Lin
I am still fricking mad
They just chilled at my outpost, maintaining shit
>You have to have them as companions
No you're not, I didn't even start the main quest until 100+ hours. It absolutely does ruin the game but let's not pretend it's mandatory.
>I want these places as barren as my womb
>Trust the science
Is that a shop?
I fricking wish it was
>it could take decades
It would take at least a decade to test the microbe probably 2.
are you telling me this nightmarish thing is prey
....to this giraffe thing?
I don't know about that other anon but this one is cute. I'll gladly have it as a pet.
would you pet she?
Yes
>highly advanced spacefaring civilization has problems with big melee bugs
Just fricking shoot them, lmao. Fricking third world humans living in shitholes populated by predators don't have these issues. Just fricking shoot them with your guns until they learn to stay away. And if they're too dumb to learn, track them to their nests and burn that shit to the ground. Why do you need some overwrought microbe plan for this? Fricking shoot the fricker.
>Just fricking shoot them, lmao
>noooo they are like super fast and telepathic and suuuperr scaryy!! never mind we have literal handheld railgun technology or ships that could float in the atmosphere and blow them up with 300mm canons!
Yeah. They're also completely domesticated. Zero threat to humans. Imagine a pet cow that protects you from coked up grizzly bears.
They’re supposed to kill the larval stage but it doesn’t make a lot of sense when you think about it.
These alien animals look like dogshit.
Fire whatever homosexual director or marketer thought this looked good- because I know sure as shit it wasn't the art team responcible. How the shit is the Aceles supposed to kill and eat a Terramorph with fricking HOOOOOOOVES??????
The Terramorph also looks fricking dumb. The idea a large grizzly-bear sized animal was introduced to colonial space and is just shitting and gibbing everybody and it's just "so fricking dangerous omgz hackerzmaxors" is dumb and gay. If they actually wanted to do a hard sci-fi "introduced species" plot it would have been some kind of creature that literally eats anything, reproduces constantly, and is maybe about as big as a large rat or a small dog.
Literally just copy Aphids:
-Female gives live birth to females that are born pregnant in order to proliferate as quickly as possible in times of plenty. Literally has 4 wombs to facilitate this process.
-When available food becomes scarce females lay fertilized eggs that are mostly male. The males are raised carefully and once matured: fricked relentlessly until they die.
-Pregnant mothers then lay another clutch of eggs that will be wing-bearing females (and a couple extra males) that will fly off to colonize other places.
-Zero defense mechanism. Can lactate an extremely sweet and delicious liquid to placate and endear organisms to it, but that's it.
they're painfully uninspired. Looks like a legally distinct "not the giger xenomorph honest" from some derivative sci-fi shooter from 2003.
they eat their larvae
>Revive its natural predator Jurassic Park style, and let nature take its course
Dumb as frick and won't even solve the problem. Predators don't even hunt their prey to extinction moron and you're introducing potentially huge consequences to every ecosystem that you introduce them to.
>Unleash an experimental virus that targets that monster and hope that it doesn't mutate or jump to other species
A disease jumping from a species on earth is extremely rare. Basically the only time it happens is for predator/prey. Even for humans basically the only MAMALS that it happens for are livestock that we live around constantly and whose shit/piss farmers are exposed to in extremely high concentrations.
The virus is objectively the correct choice here and you only don't like it because the word virus is scary and you're a moron.
The existence of the choice at all in the first place is even more fricking moronic though because in real life you'd just shoot them or bomb them and then they'd die because they're the size of a car.
>SAFE AND EFFECTIVE
It has been nearly 5 years and you're still trapped in 2019
1. They're the natural predators of the prey moron. The ecosystem will already be balanced
2. By the sound of things they aren't saturating each ecosystem with the predators given that the solution is supposedly going to take decades. If it is going to take decades, what do you think the predators will be doing during that time? Fricking photosynthesising? No they'll be fricking up whatever ecosystem they've been injected into or starving. It's a moronic plan that introduces massive risk and doesn't even solve the problem
You have a total misunderstanding of the situation. The predator species is extinct. That's what fricked up MUH ECOSYSTEM in the first place and allowed the "prey" species to turn into human-murdering psycholizards.
Don't try and reason with morons.
He clearly doesn't understand what anyone is trying to explain to him.
Emil go to bed
>Predators don't even hunt their prey to extinction
Except they can and they do if the population of predators isn't native or from certain circumstances have overpopulation and get reintroduced to a normal population of prey.
>Sam and Andreja support the predator choice if they are present when you make it
>only get mad after the quest line is done
EEEEMMMMMMIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLL
lol I never even found this questline
Sarah and Barret prefer the microbe solution, and will dislike the aceles option because they say that it might take decades for the effect to happen, and they don't want to wait that long with the Terrormorphs running wild. Andreja and Sam prefer the aceles option, because they are scared of the microbe either not working or spreading to other stuff.
Starfield is a fricking garbage ass game, but it's completely untrue that "all companions in Starfield get mad if you choose option 1."
>Andreja and Sam prefer the aceles option, because they are scared of the microbe either not working or spreading to other stuff.
Bro, Andreja reacts negatively and lectures you over the dinosaurs too. What are you even talking about?
Okay, someone in this thread is lying through their teeth. And we need to find out who.
>And we need to find out who.
It's the guy claiming that they all prefer the same thing. You can find several articles that goes against his narrative and supports what I wrote here
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/should-choose-aceles-microbes-starfield/
>If you choose Microbes, some of your companions, like Sarah and Barrett, will “like” your decision although I’m still not exactly sure why.
>On the other hand, if you go the route of the Aceles, they’ll “dislike” your call because actually letting nature take its course might take decades. It’s worth mentioning that both Sam and Andreja prefer this choice
https://www.eurogamer.net/starfield-pick-microbe-or-aceles-achilles-consequences-9352
>This means you can get some easy 'likes' to boost your affinity with Sarah, and Barrett in particular, as long as you pick the microbe option.
>Andreja and Sam seem to favour the aceles option, but this can vary depending on how high their affinity is with you.
I don't know what kind of pathetic moron that other guy is, because there's 1000 things about Starfield that you can complain about, so it doesn't even make sense to start making up shit.
>Trust the game journos over releasing the shitposters into the wild to sort it out
No, I will not.
I actually played the game and it's even more moronic. When you pick the option, there is a popup that Andreja DISLIKES microbe option, but when you actually talk to her, she states that she LIKES that option. That's why tards here can't even agree on this.
it's funny to me that this could be easily solved by playing the game and checking but no one wants to touch the thing with a ten-foot pole
I don't feel like reinstalling it any time soon, not until CK has been out for a good while anyway
I'm the guy who made this post
and on my first playthrough, Sarah disliked the aceles option for me. On my second rushed story playthrough, Andreja disliked the microbe option. Pic related.
Andreja likes the choice when you make it and after the quest line is complete she’ll sorta investigate why you made the choice. She’s a curious little shit
Does she still lack co-pilot voice lines?
No? I’ve heard her get all excited when I pop enemy system with my big beams
Finally I can play again
>Bro, Andreja reacts negatively and lectures you over the dinosaurs too. What are you even talking about?
What are YOU talking about? There's a difference between someone going "uhh, I don't know.. maybe..." because she's written to be indecisive, versus you literally getting the official "Andreja disliked that" message.
>"uhh, I don't know.. maybe..."
Damn, that's a really balanced companion endorsement between the options...
With each passing day, Andreja keeps getting more and more based. A shame he's a filthy space muslim. Ah well, nobody's perfect.
Haven't played beyond the prologue but I did some Googling and most articles imply that companions like the microbe option but dislike the Aceles option. There are plenty of posts online talking about how moronic it is:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/5904837854431868215/?ctp=2
"you'd think at least some companions would be "mmmm.. love me some Aceles fajitas... " or something?"
https://game8.co/games/Starfield/archives/425281
Deploying the Aceles is the safest route - Morally good companions will dislike this choice.
They need to be wiped out quickly with the microbe - Morally good companions will like this choice.
https://www.dualshockers.com/starfield-aceles-or-microbe-choice-guide/
Also, most of your companions will not be happy with deploying Aceles while emphasizing their fears of a potential Terrormorph attack.
>terrormorphs
how lame
Bethesda has always been illusion of choice when it comes to this shit
sarah, sarah its me, its me, goku
>Fallout 76’s awful launched
>Starfield’s writing suck ass and gameplay is also boring
If the next Elder Scroll doesn’t deliver, Bethesda might unironically lose crash and burn because there’s no way in hell can they recover from that.
Third time the charm I hope.
>he forgot Fallout 4
Anon, Starfield WAS the third timed charmed one.
Fallout 4 is good tho
Not in the writing department by leagues, it was a dumbed down, streamlined RPG and had middling gun play at best. If you wanted rust/minecraft/Ark but fallout paint job then sure, it was good, but for any metric the average person would buy a Bethesda or a fallout game for then no, it was quite bad.
>but for any metric the average person would buy a Bethesda or a fallout game for then no, it was quite bad
more people are still playing than the rest of the franchise combined on steam alone
that includes fallout 76
just how delusional are you?
I might have phrased that poorly, but I'm also not talking about sales or player count. My point being, it's a dumbed down version of previous Bethesda games with decent gunplay... for a Bethesda game that is. Otherwise, it does not even reach mediocre if you compared it to contemporary FPS's or melee titles. My contention was with the phrase "but Fallout 4 was good". It is an okay fallout themed rust/ark/the forest/minecraft - alike but in all the categories you'd be expecting to score it just by virtue of what it is, a mainline entry in the RPG series called Fallout made by Bethesda Game Studios, it is quite bad.
>If the next Elder Scroll doesn’t deliver, Bethesda might unironically lose crash and burn
Damn, well at least they've got until 2030 at the soonest before that happens
>TES 6?
>Who said TES6?
>Look best I can do is Fallout 5
heh
I hate to say this... but I think it has to be said. I think I enjoyed Mass Effect Andromeda more than Starfield. Please don't hate me. I'll leave the thread now.
for all it's faults, MEA doesn't expect you to walk for kilometers across barren landscapes
You act like the astronauts were bored
I wouldn't be bored if I could do donuts on the fricking moon
But the astronauts weren't bored up there with all the literal nothing on the moon, so why are you bored with Planets in Starfield when they provide even more than was on the moon like raider bases to loot and shoot? The truth is gamers are now so entitled to feeling "entertained" by their games that even exploring and entire other planet can't keep their attention anymore.
>expecting your expensive entertainment product to be entertaining is being entitled
The absolute state of corporate bootlicks
>But the astronauts weren't bored up there with all the literal nothing on the moon
Because the astronauts were literally making history and walking on the fricking moon, on a place that literally has no atmosphere and would kill them instantly if they for some reason took off their helmets or their suits malfunctioned.
Starfield is a VIDEO GAME. A videogame where you do nothing but walk around empty landscapes and find the same copy-pasted outposts with the same copy-pasted variants of "spaceman with gun" for you to pew pew at. It's mindnumbingly boring.
I can't remember what movie I was watching but I really enjoyed a scene where these dudes were driving those across the moons surface as they were shooting at each other. I was hoping to get something like that in Starfield... but there was nothing like that in Starfield.
Ad Astra
Andromeda is a better game than Starfield.
I agree I also did.
>hey, snap out of it!
>medicine check
doesn't attempt any medical interventions like even basic resus
The majority of these are genuinely awful, especially the "persuasion" dialogue, but I don't get what's wrong with the Diana/spite and beer dialogues, I'm prolly missing a lot of context
SARAH, IT'S ME, CITIZEN
>AY c**t GOT ANY PETROL?!
Abboposting was the best shit Starfield gave anyone.
YOUR VITALS YOU BLOODY b***h BASTERAD GET THOSE BOBS MOVING SAR
laugh at them
Explain this.
that's a lot of fractions for something that has been quantified as mostly negative
Almost every single name on there is a literal who. Some nobody they paid to give the game a 10. Yeah there a few notable sources but you could count them on one hand.
Rating, awards, critics, and video game news site are all subject to AAA money.
This is nothing new and it's been this way for a long time now.
And it works quite well most of the time. Use your brain.
A couple of those are false advertising if you fact check
>techmundo
>ign brasil
>ign japan
>ign espana
>areajugones
>ppe.pl
>generacionxbox
>somosxbox
>alfabetajuega
really scraping the bottom of the barrel to find those 10/10 scores. i like that they used ign three times, but not the 7/10 score that the the american ign gave them.
>blood everywhere
>Your vitals are.... no no no no nooo
Fricking kek literal ESL
for me it was telling a greedy merchant that you are imagining him wearing a tiny little hat
Less binary choices in RPGs please.
None of the companions are good but is Sarah Morgan the worst one?
She kept screeching at me for doing anything remotely fun in the game.
Example when pick pocket someone she kept yelling at me while the Black guy didn't mind as much.
So she's the Lawful Stupid one?
I like that she says she won't judge your actions when you first meet her
she adopts a child in her sidequest and then immediately abandon's her to follow you to the unity if she lives that long. the way the game portrays her makes her an actual piece of shit person.
And she knows it.
Emil wrote the main quest for Skyrim. Everyone hated Delphine so fricking much they'd gladly side with a dragon just barely keeping his murderous impulses in check just to spite her. So he made her a companion this time with a British accent (annoying) even more preachy (annoying), demanding (annoying), and writes the story like we're supposed to care about her despite being given no tangible reasons to (annoying).
Emil doesn't "not listen to the fans". He hears them, gets pissed off and doubles down on all the things they hated because he hates them and their "whining". He's said before he sees the people who play RPGs as moronic children who don't care about your story and just want to rip it apart. So why would he do anything but spite those people?
>Emil doesn't "not listen to the fans". He hears them, gets pissed off and doubles down on all the things they hated
oh boy I can't wait to see what he has up his sleeve for tes6
>Emil doesn't "not listen to the fans". He hears them, gets pissed off and doubles down on all the things they hated because he hates them and their "whining".
I mean hey, at least they didn't make the protagonist voiced this time.
Barely.
>British accent (annoying
Good morning sirs, pleasings do not redeem the toilets
poos aren't the only ones that find you annoying, nige
Then why did he kill her off?
To remove any chance of you having the satisfaction of doing it yourself.
Is he the worst writer of all time?
Even Hanburger Helper can write better quests and characters.
zombie panic is more fun than starfield
Many games are more fun than starfield
I don't know why, but in Starfield I just want to kick every character in the face, even the player character. It's like a primal urge to bully them. Skyrim or Fallout npcs never bothered me as much. I guess it's the writing.
1. [Medicine] Your vitals are...No...OH NO NO NO SARAHgayS WE GOT TOO wienerY
You got me anon
> Game made for boomers.
> Millennizooms lose their mind on Youtube.
> Still sells gangbusters.
Many hearty keks were had.
> Still sells gangbusters.
Because "gamers" are moronic cattle. The fact that they love Oblivion despite it being one of Todd's biggest lies and severe cancer that introduced DLC into gaming should tell you all you need to know.
>Still sells gangbusters
Starfield is on Game Pass. That's going to be 90% of people playing, not buying. Make sure you don't confuse copies shipped, copies sold, and copies played.
Nobody actually played this shit game
I'm playing it, slowly, interrupted by intermittent crashes.
>[Medicine[
>oh nononononono
kek wtf
>MURSHIDABAD MEDICAL COLLEGE AND HOSPITAL
I literally tried so hard to give this game a chance, I even wrote down a list of shit I was planning to mod, but after 100hrs of trudging through mediocre (at best) shit and knowing there was 6months until the creation kit... all I can say is frick Bethesda. It boggles my mind they decided to waste years making a complete non-game with zero worthwhile story to tell. At least I don't have to give a shit about waiting for the next Elder Scrolls game so that's a plus. These useless Black folk are dead to me.
>I even wrote down a list of shit I was planning to mod
just curious, but would you mind sharing a short version of it?
I don't have it anymore but the majority of it was things like economy fix, proper reputation systems and scaling rewards to make the game more of a sandbox since they completely fricked that up.
>it's a fricking medicine check to check their pulse and then say "OH NONONONONONO"
why?
SARAH ARE YOU OKAY
ARE YOU OKAY
ARE YOU OKAY, SARAH?
Is there a diana porn
>technology allows people to survive in the harshest aliens conditions
>nobody bothered building such habitats on Earth
sasuga bethesda
Every character in this game is so fricking lifeless, so mediocre. That's worse than being shit, it's to be as close as a living being can be to nothing. Wallpaper dressing. Imagine being a rung below Preston Garvey.
Did you know that Larian brought forward the release of Baldur Gate 3 so as not to release it at the same time as Starfield.
lmao, if they had known...
>boot up Starfield after a few months
>add Sarah to my party
>kill everyone in the city
>tell Sarah's asiaticface to frick off
>tfw I put 135.5 hours into this game
I enjoyed it (Though it is very flawed and I can see why it got so much backlash)
>I enjoyed it