How would you know they aren't? Most of their stuff isn't translated and you haven't read anything that has been. >"In the late imperial periods, with the widespread of commercial printing, Chinese novels also became heavily circulated across East and Southeast Asia;[23][24] it was reported in 1604, several hundreds of titles of Chinese books came through to the port city of Nagasaki alone,[25][26] and throughout the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, estimated over a thousand Chinese titles were imported every year.[27] Their prominence prove to be crucial in the development of literature in these places.[28][24]"
Absolute fricking moron comparison, it's blindingly stupid racism like this that gives rational racism like hating Black folk a bad name.
If I knew it provided said value, sure. The problem is that indieshit isn't worth playing for 10 minutes. Leave the programming to professionals, kids!
I played it like 4 hours and dropped it. It's obviously very front loaded and the amount of actual quality content drops like a rock after you play a few hours.
PoEgays always bring up the price. Post specs. I want to see your 1030-centric machine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
13700K
7900XTX
9 months ago
Anonymous
>budget GPU
9 months ago
Anonymous
Look at you, trying anything you can to save face. Admit it, I beat you. I have a better PC and I have D4 and PoE and I know PoE is better. Just concede.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I have a better PC
Try again, poorgay.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Well then it's my turn to laugh. You paid way too much for that thing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
More like I paid too little.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>130 GB ram
this is just moronic
9 months ago
Anonymous
>can't do math
How does it feel to be so moronic you buy a PC like that just to play Diablo 4?
>just to play Diablo 4
Do you wear the helmet full time?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>math
i accept your concession
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
How does it feel to be so moronic you buy a PC like that just to play Diablo 4?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Dumb anon, he also uses that PC to fap to child porn in his troony discord server.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>current-year flagship nvidia and intel products
my fricking sides
9 months ago
Anonymous
>he should have 4-6 year old gear like me so he can talk about how unoptimized new games are
Dumb anon, he also uses that PC to fap to child porn in his troony discord server.
I don't run linux or complain about telemetry. I have no child porn to hide from Microsoft.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I have no child porn to hide from Microsoft.
Just from everyone else, but not your troony friends working for Microsoft Diversity Hiring department.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're reaching, like the black buck reaches around to stroke your tiny penis while he's invading your guts.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're reaching for your nonexistent dick to fap to images of children. Only to remember your own mental illness caused you to cut it off.
can confirm
everyone i know bought and hated it
and when you tell them they wasted money they call you a poorgay even though they know the game is dogshit
their argument always boils down to
Umm youre a bad person for pirating
ummmm pay taxes much?
people get really buttblasted once they realized they paid the price of a tenga flip for a worthless always online game where you feel like killing yourself while leveling only to arrive at endgame at level 20 and then nothing changes
The fact they have no firm release and beta is basically a month away. they clearly haven't been invested dollars in on talent to improve the game. At best it shows incompetence, at worst it shows fear of D4.
And it's a closed beta, lol. If the game ever gets released it won't be till around christmas 2024 at the absolute best
Bald fricking moron will delay the closed beta and only stream Black person shills and whales will get invites anyway
>What's the controversy with Path of Exiles 2? It seemed like the best isometric ARPG to me
The showcase for the game was incredibly shitty and we don't know if it's because of overtuning, shitty gear, missing skill tree points, or GGG successfully made a game slower than Diablo 2 on purpose.
>we don't know if it's because of overtuning, shitty gear, missing skill tree points, or GGG successfully made a game slower than Diablo 2 on purpose.
Oh I think we know which one it is.
They always undercook the characters they use for these promos and play slowly. I'm not worried about the game playing slow because you can always just play faster.
I AM worried about dodge rolls and low attack speed. There's a lot of good changes here but I think they're fundamentally making the game not for me.
>I AM worried about dodge rolls and low attack speed.
I don't see what's wrong with dodge roll when you can't even play the game currently without having some sort of movement skill equipped and the characters they showed have no attack speed at all so of course they're gonna attack slow.
If you look at the streamers playing the game, the monster density is much lower. You get monsters frequently but they come in packs of 1-5 at most and getting more than 10 monsters in the screen seems to be suicide. What this means is we're getting an isometric souls game where you dodge roll behind large monsters and time your attack animations correctly.
If they can keep it a playable game without turning the entire screen into some sort of unplayable bullet hell, sure, otherwise it's PoE 1 all over again.
Also, get rid of the clutter of useless items and different stats for the same items.
Nobody need to p2w stash pages, putting out broken shit and selling the in-game solution is predatory.
These two simple things will not make them money but it will save me time and make me play their game, otherwise I won't play and I will speak poorly of it, for free, for having the same problem as the first game has.
>slower than Diablo 2 on purpose.
Slow is not bad, zoomers on legalized meth should stay on fortnite.
>Slow is not bad, zoomers on legalized meth should stay on fortnite.
Yes it is you moronic mongoloid PoE was losing players the moment they started slowing down the game and nerfing skills. The game was exciting when you could vaal ground slam and kill the entire screen nobody wants to spend 10 minutes on a map boss or 2 on a white mob maybe D4 is more your tempo so frick off.
Blight was godlike compared to what we had in recent times.
>Slow is not bad, zoomers on legalized meth should stay on fortnite.
Yes it is you moronic mongoloid PoE was losing players the moment they started slowing down the game and nerfing skills. The game was exciting when you could vaal ground slam and kill the entire screen nobody wants to spend 10 minutes on a map boss or 2 on a white mob maybe D4 is more your tempo so frick off.
Why the frick did they rape the game with the vision nonsense when it wasn't going to be one game with two campaigns anymore? morons.
If they want a new player, they have to suit my needs, not yours, you are already mazed and can't get out.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If they want new players they wouldn’t slow the game thats the point of what I’m saying moron the game is not fun when it’s slow.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The game isn't fun if you're just running around and everything dies to 1 hit
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The game isn't fun if you're just running around and everything dies to 1 hit
Yes it is because that’s literally what the past 4-5 years of PoE gameplay has been. They already have a mode for morons that want slow gameplay it’s called ruthless you have zero items, movement skills, gems, currency, and nobody fricking plays it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't mean slow like diablo 2, that was clearly an exaggeration, my only problem is someone dashing through the map with a million projectiles on screen and a billion useless loot on the ground that serves no purpose other than clutter the screen and waste computer resources.
Item filter, a million and a half different clutter resource items, WHY?
Just make the slot count on items be something you need to roll for, not status on items randomized and every bullshit under the sun be some sort of thing which has mandatory tinkering.
If you can't bot something and you can't defraud people or make pennies on the dollar with items, the Chinese won't play the game, so they end up turning the game into some sort of unplayable mess.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>billion useless loot on the ground that serves no purpose other than clutter the screen and waste computer resources.
Item filter, a million and a half different clutter resource items, WHY?
Because the game has a billion different item variations and crafting systems? They already tried experimenting moving loot to rare mobs only and it ended up being one of the worst league in recent history people would rather have loot filters and have loot spreadout than have 3-4 loot pinatas in a map.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>PoE1 skeleton crew with lacklustre leagues >PoE2 completely shits on the game's legacy
mazed homosexual
9 months ago
Anonymous
Rares still drop majority of the loot. They just randomized the loot drops because when the loot was tied to specific Rare monster mods, people started skipping Rare monsters that they knew had shitty loot inside. Now its back to slot machine again with "god-touched" mods having higher chance of dropping more and better stuff.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why not make the stats on the items not be randomized in the first place?
A million currency items in order to make THE PERFECT ITEM, making all that clutter just to sell tabs.
So many tabs, filters for tabs, and then capitalizing on it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Why not make the stats on the items not be randomized in the first place?
Because people like crafting and gambling?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Why not make the stats on the items not be randomized in the first place?
Because then all characters look and play exactly the same in the endgame.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Because then all characters look and play exactly the same in the endgame.
You mean, like it already is?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Play the game before you open your moronic mouth.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, Path of Juggernaut.
People are playing very different things here.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>SSF >Ruthless
People play SSF friendly classes in SSF race? No way!
9 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>no hc
What's impressive about this?
9 months ago
Anonymous
More Juggernauts?
Certainly, I can oblige.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I counted 9 different ascendancies on that page. Seems pretty diverse to me.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>SSF Ruthless >Where the items aren’t randomized because there are no item drops
I don’t think this helps your argument buddy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are not arguing in good faith, if you only see what you want to see, then why bother replying? Nobody will have any valid point to you.
Your argument was: items needed to have different stats on them because otherwise people would all "look and play exactly the same endgame", they already do.
I say the items have different stats on them for a bunch of different currency in order to sell tabs and customizations because those items only serve the purpose of cluttering the stash.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You use an extremely restrictive and punishing game mode as your example. Go ahead and count how many different PoE builds ManletMathil has in his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@Mathilification/videos
9 months ago
Anonymous
More Juggernauts?
Certainly, I can oblige.
Ok, Path of Juggernaut.
People are playing very different things here.
So you agree randomized loot is a good thing right? Because you literally linked a game mode with no randomized item drops.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The crafting and clutter from the regular game is exactly the same.
You drop a random item and there is hundreds of items to adjust that item until it becomes exactly what you want, instead of that, a single stat for an item would be better.
Example: this item can be 400defense or 1000 defense, make it either 1000 or 400 defense all the time, instead of 401 or 999 and then rolling with currency until it becomes 400 and 1000.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You seem really invested in a game you claim you don't play.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you being tsundere, I'm not looking for an anonymous girlfriend(male), thank you.
>we don't know
only morons can't see that the characters people were given to use aren't optimized in any way. they don't want people to breeze through their demos with minimal effort
There are 2 camps of people:
Redditors and GGG who want Elden Ring but isometric
PoE fans who played the game at its prime who want a modern version of it
The latter are most of this board who play ARPGs.
The game looked fantastic. It's just that the zoomzooming zoomers are crying because they weren't immediately teleporting around and one shotting entire screens with low level characters.
How else are you going to make it so that players have to spend real money on stash tabs so they could afford farming for currency items so that they could have access to regret orbs that they could use to fix their build that has become unviable 3/5ths through the campaign, without even the slightest chance of it being effective even against trash in late game? The passive tree is massive on purpose. Everything in Path of Exile is designed around the eventual use of an "optional" premium service.
>No winning is there
Not when the majority of people are literal fricking morons >release too early, game's shit and unfinished like D4, get flamed >take your time to release, morons get impatient, get flamed >don't split the games, morons cry about their zoom-zoom gameplay being gone, get flamed >split the games, morons cry for some reason STILL even though they can have their zoom-zoom game in PoE 1, get flamed
literally no winning when you're dealing with 0 IQ subhumans
They make Poe2 slower, like Poe1 was in the past.
GGG now said, Poe2 will be a standalone Game, so they dont need to make Poe1 slower. Somehow thats a controversy. Or rather, Idiots who dont know anything except running the same Build for years, think thats will be bad. In the End they will play both anyway, league on Poe1 end, the one on Poe2 starts. They try to keep gaming peak high and get some Diabtoddlers with it.
Yes that's how PoE classes always worked. Your class picks what passives you access and the passives power up particular skills.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No? Poe1s classes had the same attributes in poe 2 they dont did you not watch the gameplay walkthrough
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's just two classes for each attribute combination now
Classes have unique systems to them now
That's been in the game ever since they added ascendancies.
9 months ago
Anonymous
PoE 2 characters all share the same passive tree. monk and shadow start in the same spot, etc. The differences are in ascendancy classes and the pseudo gem tree they showed which lets you automatically unlock themed skill gems but still find or buy gems that are off-theme.
Yeah I'm actually confused by the class thing. I thought the point of skill gems is that skills aren't tied to any one character and are universal. But it seems they are now?
>unique systems
Like what? They always had unique subclasses that had their own skill trees unless you count the very first years of the game when ascendancies didn't exist.
That's what that anon meant, anon-kun. PoE already had "classes." You could just (badly) cross-class them through the Sphere Grid to the other side/another classes Sphere Grid.
They just changed this up to where "classes" are a little more hard delinated now to where people don't make a mess of "builds" because of it.
A former independent developer, the studio was acquired by Chinese tech company Tencent in May 2018, after the Chinese company had published the studio's sole title, Path of Exile, in China (excluding Hong Kong and Macau)
Thick odour of burned wood camouflaging the horrible smell of crusty armpits and genitals. Thats how you smell like if you've been stuck in a tent for months in the army. Smell of burned logs sticks to your clothes and hard.
>8 button slow gameplay
This is the best thing that can happen to PoE. Actual gameplay with actual depths instead of mashing one button for hundreds of hours.
You have no right to cry about "muh 1 button gameplay", you have a whole genre about pressing million buttons and you want to infest our cookie clicker with extremely simplified version of the above?
It's a mobile-tier F2P game that plays like a gacha. At this point, they also "borrowed" a few ideas from D4 and even lifted a few visual cues from Grim Dawn. Basically it's a turd. I can see why Crate woke up and are now gearing up for war. D4 failed, PoE is hemorrhaging. The arpg pussy is wide open to get fricked.
But it looks better than PoE, has better animations and isn't a F2P gacha. Unfortunately your mazed addictions carry no weight against reality. It's a chink game now. That is what it is. No amount of crying, huffing, fantasies and stomping of feet will change the fact that Crate have decided to make more GD. Enjoy your paid stash and failed crafting, kid.
lel
poe2 already is way more polished than d4 >gacha
poe has no gacha mechanics
>poe has no gacha mechanics
The crafting is pure gacha. This game is also owned by the Chinese and has change since then. So why lie on the internet?
PathofMath is that you?
>PathofMath is that you?
Yes, it is I, PathofMess, I mean Math. Nobody in the entire world but me thinks any of this, right? I mean everybody likes scammy always online games with F2P monetization, innit. Yeah, I'm the only one who hates that shit, so like and subscribe to my channel, bro.
I thought I was PathofMath? Now I'm the mazed guy? Make up your mind you sad clown. Being mazed is a common expression on people who have an online gambling addiction. Meaning you are so fricking desperate to have something, anything, as a retort that you create imaginary shadow puppets. Listen, son. D4 is flopping and the big PoE 2 reveal showed they droppped the ball so hard it split the concrete at the convention just now. Hard enough that it woke Crate because they can smell blood. That is as things are today. I'm sure the next guy who laughs at you will also be "the mazed guy" and one other that and...
You're a clown. A mazed, desperately addicted always online clown. Over F2P cash shop gacha cancer. Take a bow. GGG are pretty much done because this was going to be the thing that saved them. And it aint looking good. Like at all.
seems like a pretty abysmal convention. can't even watch the streamed stuff at the event because there are no screens for it? you have to watch on your phone/tablet while sitting inside the convention center like a moron
>seems like a pretty abysmal convention. can't even watch the streamed stuff at the event because there are no screens for it?
Are you blind? All the streamed stuff happens on the big screen right behind the streamer.
Beta in a year, and you've got a new league in like 3 months, don't worry bro. Its best to get a lot of your learning out of the way now and just play.
so chris willy is and isn't working on poe1 while working on poe2, poe2 isn't poe 4.0 but actually a new game and still poe1 isn't going away? something frickin' stinks
Tencent boosted their budget immensely.
The two games can share a lot of assets and mechanics.
They have a ton of technical experience that makes creating new leagues easy.
>Tencent boosted their budget immensely.
that has me a bit worried honestly
Chris isn't working on PoE 2.
leagues and leagues ago he specifically said he'd be letting go of spearheading league development to go work on poe2 and he's been real touch and go with language talking directly about who's directing what and when
1/3 of new PoE 2 monsters in the gameplay were just PoE 1 monsters with new textures and new animations. They're doing the same shit Elden Ring was doing and just grab old monsters from their old games and give them a new coat of paint and skillsets. Ziz video in the jungle had the giant grabs from PoE1 Act 6 with new roll attack, good old Blood Monkeys from Act 2, Vaal Temple had the golems from Delve, Mathils prison area had Sanctums giant zombies.
It started as just 4.0, the scope grew too large to integrate everything from the old game. Chris isn't really working on it, Jonathan is and doesn't even pay attention to what's going on in poe1
Looks like mediocre combat, punishing new player experience, paid QoL updates, Guide required to play, ugly armor design, 60-400 dollar seasonal armor sets and more PoE gays not registering that their game is boring as frick.
>Paying money to unlock stash tabs
Sorry but PoEtards will never ever win this argument, your game is infinitely more p2w.
9 months ago
Anonymous
PoE has more stash tabs for free than Diablo 4.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Thats because D4 cant give people more since the game tries to be a psuedo mmo and for some reason seeing anyone else out in the open causes you to load their entire stash.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>needs more than half a stash tab
gitgud
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, we know Diablo 4
But it looks better than PoE, has better animations and isn't a F2P gacha. Unfortunately your mazed addictions carry no weight against reality. It's a chink game now. That is what it is. No amount of crying, huffing, fantasies and stomping of feet will change the fact that Crate have decided to make more GD. Enjoy your paid stash and failed crafting, kid.
[...] >poe has no gacha mechanics
The crafting is pure gacha. This game is also owned by the Chinese and has change since then. So why lie on the internet?
[...] >PathofMath is that you?
Yes, it is I, PathofMess, I mean Math. Nobody in the entire world but me thinks any of this, right? I mean everybody likes scammy always online games with F2P monetization, innit. Yeah, I'm the only one who hates that shit, so like and subscribe to my channel, bro.
What a bunch of mazed idiots, lol
is dogshit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I just dont know why you would design this to begin with
9 months ago
Anonymous
Rhykker thinks this is leftover code from Diablo 3, because they tried giving extra stashes back then but it made the game laggy as frick.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wouldn't surprise me, saves them a lot of time with creating a network infrastructure and implementing it into battle.net.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It probably is. Same engine as D3 just with 10 years of iteration.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Rhykker thinks this is leftover code from Diablo 3, because they tried giving extra stashes back then but it made the game laggy as frick.
why the frick would they do this
blizz are moronic
9 months ago
Anonymous
>singular company "are" X
I fricking hate europeans.
9 months ago
Anonymous
[the collective developers of blizzard] are moronic
9 months ago
Anonymous
Had you said that, it wouldn't be gay. But Blizzard is a company. Blizzard are not a company.
9 months ago
Anonymous
i was inferring it by using the word are
learn to read context, european
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm an American. We invented the english language.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>loading entire stash
Did blizzard hire a malaysian software company to program diablo4? Seeing how they can't immediately hotfix this with their team of programmers working at the HQ, it makes me think they're contacting some 3rd party in a foreign country and it takes more time than you'd expect to solve simple issues.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Considering their season 1 patch introduced bugs they already patched out, I assume everyone working on this is a moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's just laziness. My guess is they have a character class which they use for the user playing his own character. Which has the stash as a property. I don't know why in this case the stash doesn't load on demand either but again, laziness.
They then use the same character class for all other players in the vicinity.
Yes yes and Diablo Immortal is not P2W, the devs promised and we all know we can trust what Blizzard says.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know anything about Overwatch 2, because Diablo is the only good thing Blizzard made.
>Paying to boost your pass for more access faster
You...need to hit the level prerequisite. You'll manually unlock the tiers long before. The first ashes are t8, which is probably 15 minutes of grinding, but you can't use them until 43. You're moronic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't know anything about Overwatch 2, because Diablo is the only good thing Blizzard made.
Blizzard advertised OW2 with "Huge PVE mode with hundreds of missions!"
Then they released OW2 without the PvE saying that its coming.
Recently they announced PvE is cancelled.
true but most league mechanics which take place outside of maps usually feel shit because you rarely get to do the mechanic. so while sentinel was basically just juiced up standard you got to use your bots every map and it was fun. but shit like crucible and kalandra where they're outside the map AND shit makes it so much worse
If it makes you feel any better, leagues like Sanctum are a fluke since someone confirmed today there are only 8 devs working on PoE1 and its leagues anymore for about the past 2 years or so now.
>and what the final product looks like
It looks like 10 boring acts you have to repeat and following guides to know which of the 1500 bubbles you are going to cookie cut as people pretend you can make something unique.
>looks kinda cool might try it depends on the price
The game is free. Like a heroin dealer the first sample is free and when you're hopelessly hook, thats where they start showing you convenient stash tabs that make your collected stuff look prettier on the screen with less clicking involved.
rest in piss >slow dogshit combat >gold and auction house >free respec >dodge rolls >cooldowns
They are going agaisnt every core tenet of the game to please the blizzard and fromsoftware audience
Man you are so fricking deluded.
Its so obvious from everything so far.
They have split up PoE from PoE 2 in order to be able to make PoE 2 completely different. That includes an auction house, yes
>PoE2 should be about fearing white mobs. White mobs should take off half of your health per hit and stunlock you. And Rare mobs? They should be gods. Life Regen rare mob will be the strongest enemy in the game. If you die then you'll just have to git gud and clear everything again. Or farm gold. This is PoE2.
>PoE2 should be about fearing white mobs. White mobs should take off half of your health per hit and stunlock you. And Rare mobs? They should be gods. Life Regen rare mob will be the strongest enemy in the game. If you die then you'll just have to git gud and clear everything again. Or farm gold. This is PoE2.
>PoE1? Never played it. Lol.
The demo was obviously overtuned to make people play slower. Christ, you guys are such sissies.
Did you not see how slow the damn roll was?
No it for sure will be slow combat, screen-clearing is completely gone. Why would a screen cleaner use a fricking dodge roll
All of the skillgems everyone ware using were unsupported or with one supportget.
They have also confirmed there are passives boosting the roll.
I know you're here just to shitpost but get a grip.
they said supports don't give damage and if they do it comes at the expense of something else
so the damage isn't even going to be much better
some random on quin's stream said he found a gg mace and autoattacked through the demo (because he could no longer use any of the monk skill gems because it wasn't a quarterstaff)
that's moronic
9 months ago
Anonymous
>skill gems have weapon type limitations
Whoah. Did you even play PoE1?
9 months ago
Anonymous
don't be moronic. melee skills are weapon specific now not a selection of weapons
9 months ago
Anonymous
>source: my ass
9 months ago
Anonymous
don't be moronic. melee skills are weapon specific now not a selection of weapons
Did both of you forget some skills already have weapon limitations? Slams don't work on swords. Cleave doesn't work on Maces.
9 months ago
Anonymous
t. Ranny
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you here if you haven't even played the game?
9 months ago
Anonymous
yes but now they're for one weapon only..
>source: my ass
watch the animation panel
9 months ago
Anonymous
>both
Learn to read ESL.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There are a lot of specific weapon skills in poe, hell daggers and claws even have their own unique shit.
but why would you show that? it was so slow it made the game look bad. why don't they show that then say "here's a more thought out build to show off this harder area" and show us a character that actually has support gems and auras and rare items
Because they want to show off the game more clearly instead of running around like a headless chicken.
They might also still have more work to do to make everything look good at higher speeds.
They did that last time as well, that's why we got the 3.15 frickening because Chris said "We made the demo punishing as hell and got lots of positive feedback, so we're making the real game like that, buy our supporter packs lmao". That is absolutely how the actual game is going to play.
>White mobs should take off half of your health per hit and stunlock you.
What your describing is just PoE1 and that's why you never ever stand still in that game.
Its pretty obvious they're going assets first-balance later approach. In the demo that one coast map anchor fattie Rare was basically unkillable with Hinder Aura and self-regen.
I looks good but they all do in these trailers. I have absolutely no doubt that most of the skills shown won't be useful outside of the first 60 or so levels and the game will devolve into a speed clear meta just like PoE1.
>gold >autoloot gold >no item drop fixes >duelist gone >slayer gone >melee even more dogshit >10 minute boss fight every area >yet another auctionhouse
poedrones on suicide watch
>Finally an ARPG that isn't about alpha striking and spamming the same abilities over and over >Must use actual movesets and more active skills alongside defensive options and poise system >homosexuals b***h and moan because muh Dark Souls
Yes, Dark Souls plays great so it's normal that other ARPGs take some mechanics from it
I liked Path of Exile when I played it but it always gave me a headache because of its graphics. It looks like there's a light haze over it or something? Is it bloom? I don't know. The PoE2 trailer seems to have the same sort of haze going on. Is there a way to turn that off?
I thought it was going to kill Diablo 4 but it literally looks exactly like Diablo 4 but won't come out for another couple years.
Over a year just for a CLOSED beta.
crafting yourself is a waste of time and currency almost every single time
someone else has done it and is already selling it
they nerfed crafting so much that the normies cant even do it anymore
best part of everything is that ggg is so far disconnected from the playerbase they yet again copied the current diablo game
they will get so many whales to shell out for mtx over and over
Every time I see someone complaining about GGG I immediately think it's a shill operation to get them to sell the remaining percentage they own to the Chinese.
Most likely. Apparently Quin talked to some guy who tested the PoE 2 demo, he found a mace that just allowed him to destroy the content with basic auto-attacks.
In other words the builds in the demo are shit and most likely you can break the game as easily as PoE 1 once you get access to all gear and skill points.
poebros after the news i installed diablo 4
i actually like it more than poe now
all that money spend on mtx and clown lootboxes gone
its time to come how anons
I've been playing Grim Dawn since those devs announced new stuff is in the works. Haven't played a POE league since Archnemesis and every new league confirms my lack of interest in current state poe.
>PoE2 will fix the content bloat and speedclear meta >Support gems are finally support gems instead of stacking damage >Universal movement skill >Gold instead of a gorillion currency types
PoE is finally healing
He said since they couldnt launch PoE 2 this year they moved back people to PoE 1 and pushed the launch back to next year so the leagues up until PoE 2 should be way better
COVID is just an excuse by developers that never play tested their shit (see: DICE, Battlefield 2042) during it because "muh connection bad" (which is valid, but come the frick on: a lot of developer houses are in areas with decent enough internet)
PoE2 shouldn't require a 50+gig download for every build. So remote working shouldn't be a stumbling block.
there's no chance it won't be much faster. the characters in the demos have like no skills, passives, gear, or anything
and they're committing to having very minimal cooldown bullshit on skills besides ones that are exceedingly strong and impactful so at baseline it'll be 10x faster paced that diablo 4
Why do you morons keep parroting this bullshit when there is no evidence its true?
They are showcasing us slow gameplay for a reason.Thats what they want the game to be like
the characters don't even have 3 links and no gear. go play poe through poe right now with 2 links and no gear and it won't feel much different than poe2 demos look
it's supposed to showcase some of the new systems and interactions, graphics and environment and character art/animations etc. if they gave everyone a 1 button screen clearing braindead average poe build there would be nothing new to see and people would question why they're even going through the effort of making another game
9 months ago
Anonymous
yeah that's why i said do one demo like that. then give us a demo with a character who isn't wheelchair bound trying to traverse a set of stairs
First of all, they said support gems DO NOT increase damage.
Second of all, why not show some more realistic gameplay, instead of everything they showed us being even slower than fkin D4
what do you think they were doing for last few years? constantly slowing down. Cutting everything they could. Ruthless is their prototype. No items, no loot, no zoom, controlled power level, hard game. That will increase RMT to cosmic levels.
played PoE for like 100 hours (meaning i don't give a shit about it)
and PoE 2 looks great so far, looking forward to playing it especially since i skipped D4. all the changes i've seen are cool
I found it quite desparate how they do nothing but mention diablo during the event
last words before the announcement were literally "d4 bad"
then constant "jabs" at d4, as if poe system and ideas are all better and perfect
it's like a little brother that can't overshadow his older brother, no matter how much he tries
D4 shitters invading the chat and spamming "This is trash D4 is better" certainly didn't help. Why aren't you playing your overpriced broken game instead of shitposting here and in the chat of PoE?
I'm so fricking angry bros. Path of Exile 2 seems what Diablo IV should have been and there's no fucing justification for Blizzard doing or being surpassed by a bunch of free to play game made by kiwis.
I mean, what the frick happened? How did they get so fricking good?
I like how blizzdrones suddenly memoryhole Blizzard having chink dick up their ass.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Probably in reference to a game I don't play.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Chinks make up the majority of Blizzard games population you can’t even hop on a wow server without the an addon because it’s filled chinese character spam. It’s all projection if you ask me.
>game company decides how much shit you have to collect and how much space you have for storage >also offers to sell you more space
Man, don't do that.
I have a problem with this as well. >Make poorly optimized stash >We fixed it, but there is a cost to you for it
They would make more money just charging 10 bucks for the game.
The controversy is that the game is so fricking good and people so exited to play it, that the idea that they have to play D4 instead (cause they only play the newest thing) horrifies them. That's why they demand the devs to release the game, because D4 is so bad. But to be honest, D4 and POE2 have completely different intended audiences.
This is the biggest goym thinking. The game is now designed with inconveniences to sell you the solution. Why are GGG dick suckers so hungry for f2p scam tactics?
Your brain is literally broken, I guess. PoE is cheaper overall, and ENTIRELY FREE if you want to just start playing. Lol, there is not a single scenario where D4 is better.
keep paying for what? you can buy like 1 quad tab and the currency and map tabs and that's plenty for the average player. only 0.01% of the playerbase does any of the actual endgame so there's never a need to buy more
most of the people in this thread haven't made it to t16 maps
All I can read out of PoE fanboy posts is a tantrum. Nobody but the biggest cum slurpers are excited for what's to come. Spare us with yet another cope post.
poe >increase stat >damage go up >various way to make that damage interact with different effects
diablo 4 >increase stat >lucky hit: 5% chance for damage to go up for 0.8 seconds while the enemy is vulnerable and frozen and stunned on the first full moon of the year that falls on a tuesday while wearing a hat
It's two entirely different games, POE is not a bad game, but the way they built the monetization within it made it somewhat predatory, that is the only thing I disagree with, it is an awesome game overall.
>Have you ever bought microtransactions in PoE
No but I wish I had, that's the fricking problem. I had to throw shit away and micromanage my stash all the time, it was like playing fricking tarkov without edge of darkness. >how many hours did you have clocked when you did?
I quit the game on a occultist roll during crucible, probably 150 hours in, I rushed the campaign and went straight to maps, I was doing t12 and t14 maps when I quit.
I followed a damage-over-time build I copied on the internet.
I couldn't go as fast as other people that basically ran through exploding every thing on the screen, I killed shit, but I couldn't see shit at some point, I was always behind, when I played alone I could solo t10, when I tried to go higher I got off-screened by random shit even with max resists, defensives, all set right.
it's not the stats being difficult to understand, it's that they're not fun to engage with. they both don't feel impactful and don't feel significant. there's a reason the only stats people seek are the ones with no conditions or consistent conditions. like damage reduction%, vulnerable damage%, crit damage% etc
I always seek the crowd control condition for my damage, because that's 99.999% of what I do.
>D4 Devs are just talking shit about their game for shits and giggles!
Keep coping troony
Except that isn't what they said. The game doesn't crash when you see other players, moron.
it does happen, go to a world boss with a lot of people there and the game starts lagging to shit. seems to have gotten worse in season 1 too
The lag is dependent on something else, because if you switch instances, it can be fine. I saw one with a ping of 100+ earlier today, but the other 20 or so I checked were all low.
>The lag is dependent on something else, because if you switch instances, it can be fine.
The blizzard dev specifically said its because of Stash tabs. Are you suggesting your precious Blizzard devs are lying? Holy cope, Blizztroony!
The blizzard dev says they had trouble adding extra tabs because of that. They didn't say it was lagging out the game currently. Every instance is going to have 10-12 people. Why is one out of a frickton lagging out? Is that the only one where everyone has their stashes full? Think before you post.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The blizzard dev says they had trouble adding extra tabs because of that.
That by itself is a major frickup that you're trying to deny exists. Cope, troony.
Holy shit it's Halo Infinite all over again. The UI is too powerful, the devs can no longer control it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The blizzard dev says they had trouble adding extra tabs because of that.
That by itself is a major frickup that you're trying to deny exists. Cope, troony.
>Game doesn’t have any meaningful fricking trading >You still load other peoples inventory
You cannot make this shit up.
>The blizzard dev says they had trouble adding extra tabs because of that.
That by itself is a major frickup that you're trying to deny exists. Cope, troony.
It is, but that's not what we were talking about. And I'll stick my big troony wiener in your ass and make you a lady.
Blizzdrones hate PoEgays because they got the real successor to D2. PoEgays hate blizzdrones because they view them as subhumans with battered wife syndrome.
Every IT company I know experienced increased productivity during Covid as people couldn't spend 4 hours a day gossiping.
>Last Epoch taking ages
I don't get it. what's happening? they are already reworking the campaign's chapters before even releasing it? by the time they finish reworking the whole game, chapter 1 will be obsolete again and they'll start reworking it too? release planned for 2054.
1. Poe2 looks exactly like Poe1, which is very mediocre
2. Poe2 gameplay looks exactly like Poe1 gameplay which means it's full of instadeaths and autistic spell descriptions
Conclusion: They only call this version 2 because they are risk averse and the only safe way to iterate on Poe1 is to make a new game. They had no intention of actually making a new game, they just want to be able to introduce a gold economy and add some long needed things that Poe1 players would ragequit on.
>2. Poe2 gameplay looks exactly like Poe1 gameplay
Confirmed to never have played PoE 1. PoE 2 ironically looks something closer to Grim Dawn or Nioh 2. PoE 1 looks like a japanese bullet hell shmup where the entire screen is fireballs.
You're comparing trailer gameplay of POE 2 to actual gameplay of POE 1 though. Look at any POE 1 trailer, they showcase much slower gameplay than what it actually is.
how does this not look identical to Poe1? the graphics are 10% nicer but they didnt even bother to copy the D4 map which is infinitely superior to having a gray blurry jpeg overlayed on top of your entire screen all game long
>how does this not look identical to Poe1?
Ziz spends 2 minutes killing one unique monster in the map. If he tries to mob more monsters together he gets stunlocked to death if theres more than 10 monsters on the screen. Meanwhile in PoE 1:
Its pretty obvious you haven't played a single minute of PoE 1.
9 months ago
Anonymous
he is playing campaign mode with a totally new build in their alpha. By the time Poe2 is out and he is in endgame it will be the exact same thing
Not really, thats Act 3. PoE 1 Act 3 you're already way faster than this. Imagine if the tiny red bugs in the slums could mob you and stunlock you to death.
9 months ago
Anonymous
nobody that is new to the game is faster than this in act 3 and the only reason anyone is faster is because of mobility spells and researched builds which he Ziz obviously wasnt able to do. Also I have no idea why ppl say that this is a soulslike when I havent seen him dash a single time
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Also I have no idea why ppl say that this is a soulslike when I havent seen him dash a single time
Thats why he keeps dying. Mathil also dies extremely fast but starts doing better when he starts playing the game like Nioh instead of like PoE 1.
Grim Dawn looks like garbage and plays like garbage so you are right there. Nioh2 is an incredibly complex souls like third person over the shoulder action rpg which is nothing like Poe2.
Poe2 will also be bullet hell because their fanbase likes it. Their trailers obviously dont show that because it removes the fantasy of imagining a better game
wishful thinking at its peak. If GGG were capable of making a good game they would have made it in Poe1. Their item and spell descriptions are still autistic and nonsensical, their economy is all broken, they have one-button gameplay where you only ever use one spell and your entire build is around one spell. They fixed none of that throughout the entire lifespan of Poe1. But Poe2 will be the great soulslike action rpg you always wanted, sure bro. Suddenly all the devs at GGG are swapped out for people who give a shit and life is good all of a sudden
Well going by GGG's linked in, alot of the staff at the company now are actually new people and I imagine it's only the ancient old ones working on poe1
that's good but the main problem is Chris himself who says insane things like "hey, I believe really hard end bosses shouldnt drop better quality items than random mobs. Every creep in the game should drop every item in the game!"
yeah little clown boy, so true. When I beat a hard boss I love it when nothing drops. You should become a game designer like Chris
9 months ago
Anonymous
You and the same clown people are arguing people need to waltz through the map in the shortest amount of time possible, if you want the experience of killing a boss to be the same as a white mob, why not get the same odds at loot as well? >wahhh it's too slow >wahhhh I can't customize the item to minute detail for it to he the best item ver
The "I have more money" argument just doesn't hold weight when you use it for dumb frick things like a 4090. You need someone to manage your wealth for you or it won't end well.
The "I have more money" argument just doesn't hold weight when you use it for dumb frick things like a 4090. You need someone to manage your wealth for you or it won't end well.
Poorgays always say that. >you could have spent that money on this, this, and this! you're not spending it wisely!
But I can also spend it there, and save money, and enjoy life. I'm not so poor that a 4090 is in any way a major purchase.
Why are you blizztrannies always like this?
Post the video of the indian village with people getting served slop. It's so original!
>I'm not so poor that a 4090 is in any way a major purchase.
Not saying it is. What I'm saying is that it's indicative of an impulsive person who isn't good at managing money. It's not about a single purchase, it's about your habits.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I buy a good PC. It lasts me a couple of years, and I replace what isn't useful anymore.
>mass reply
Blizzard troony is losing it. I'm sorry that new footage of a superior game is upsetting you.
The controversy, ignoring Gankerdiot ShazamBlack folk, is:
>oh shit I wasted a hundred fricking bucks on Diablo 4, time to dig in and double down
>wasted
>down to $0.50/hr for the ultimate edition and still playing
Sounds like a great value to me.
>This book is good because it has more pages!
If it has a lot of pages and you can't put it down, it's good.
I guess chinks are masters of literature by that metric.
I wouldn't know. I'm not a weeb.
How would you know they aren't? Most of their stuff isn't translated and you haven't read anything that has been.
>"In the late imperial periods, with the widespread of commercial printing, Chinese novels also became heavily circulated across East and Southeast Asia;[23][24] it was reported in 1604, several hundreds of titles of Chinese books came through to the port city of Nagasaki alone,[25][26] and throughout the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, estimated over a thousand Chinese titles were imported every year.[27] Their prominence prove to be crucial in the development of literature in these places.[28][24]"
Absolute fricking moron comparison, it's blindingly stupid racism like this that gives rational racism like hating Black folk a bad name.
You don't pay for games based on time spent playing, moron.
But if I play the game enough where the price is $1 per hour spent or less, it's a good value. They don't even pay you pajeets that much to shill PoE.
So you'd happily pay $100 for a pixelshit indie game you play for 100 hours? You think that's good value?
If I knew it provided said value, sure. The problem is that indieshit isn't worth playing for 10 minutes. Leave the programming to professionals, kids!
kys homosexual. What a gay way to think.
Imagine paying 50c per hour to play diabslob kek
It'll probably be 2c or less by the time I'm done.
I played it like 4 hours and dropped it. It's obviously very front loaded and the amount of actual quality content drops like a rock after you play a few hours.
I hate the start of it. Post-60 is where I'm having fun.
Well, obviously PoE fans can't be trannies, because HRT and surgery cost money, which they don't have.
>Well, obviously PoE fans can't be trannies, because HRT and surgery cost money, which they don't have.
>If you don't get tricked into spending $110 dollars on Blizzard's game you're poor
You're embarrassed and it's okay, but don't lash out.
PoEgays always bring up the price. Post specs. I want to see your 1030-centric machine.
13700K
7900XTX
>budget GPU
Look at you, trying anything you can to save face. Admit it, I beat you. I have a better PC and I have D4 and PoE and I know PoE is better. Just concede.
>I have a better PC
Try again, poorgay.
Well then it's my turn to laugh. You paid way too much for that thing.
More like I paid too little.
>130 GB ram
this is just moronic
>can't do math
>just to play Diablo 4
Do you wear the helmet full time?
>math
i accept your concession
How does it feel to be so moronic you buy a PC like that just to play Diablo 4?
Dumb anon, he also uses that PC to fap to child porn in his troony discord server.
>current-year flagship nvidia and intel products
my fricking sides
>he should have 4-6 year old gear like me so he can talk about how unoptimized new games are
I don't run linux or complain about telemetry. I have no child porn to hide from Microsoft.
>I have no child porn to hide from Microsoft.
Just from everyone else, but not your troony friends working for Microsoft Diversity Hiring department.
You're reaching, like the black buck reaches around to stroke your tiny penis while he's invading your guts.
You're reaching for your nonexistent dick to fap to images of children. Only to remember your own mental illness caused you to cut it off.
Live murder on Ganker
>screenfetch
>windows
not cool
can confirm
everyone i know bought and hated it
and when you tell them they wasted money they call you a poorgay even though they know the game is dogshit
their argument always boils down to
Umm youre a bad person for pirating
ummmm pay taxes much?
people get really buttblasted once they realized they paid the price of a tenga flip for a worthless always online game where you feel like killing yourself while leveling only to arrive at endgame at level 20 and then nothing changes
normies really are incredible. they fall for marketing then defend their purchase even though they know the game sucks
Big names sell better than good games.
No zoom zoom braindead gameplay. The autists are seething. They can stay in poe1 tho
it'll be back within 2 years tops
The fact they have no firm release and beta is basically a month away. they clearly haven't been invested dollars in on talent to improve the game. At best it shows incompetence, at worst it shows fear of D4.
>beta is basically a month away.
... its in 2024
And it's a closed beta, lol. If the game ever gets released it won't be till around christmas 2024 at the absolute best
Bald fricking moron will delay the closed beta and only stream Black person shills and whales will get invites anyway
>and beta is basically a month away.
Its year 2023. Beta is a year away.
Unironically blizztrannies falseflagging
game looks like pile of shit (D4), support games don't give damage, 0 flask sustain
>rollslop
>best
kek moron
lul
the rollslop is pretty damning
it's finally truly finally over
>What's the controversy with Path of Exiles 2? It seemed like the best isometric ARPG to me
The showcase for the game was incredibly shitty and we don't know if it's because of overtuning, shitty gear, missing skill tree points, or GGG successfully made a game slower than Diablo 2 on purpose.
>we don't know if it's because of overtuning, shitty gear, missing skill tree points, or GGG successfully made a game slower than Diablo 2 on purpose.
Oh I think we know which one it is.
They always undercook the characters they use for these promos and play slowly. I'm not worried about the game playing slow because you can always just play faster.
I AM worried about dodge rolls and low attack speed. There's a lot of good changes here but I think they're fundamentally making the game not for me.
>I AM worried about dodge rolls and low attack speed.
I don't see what's wrong with dodge roll when you can't even play the game currently without having some sort of movement skill equipped and the characters they showed have no attack speed at all so of course they're gonna attack slow.
If you look at the streamers playing the game, the monster density is much lower. You get monsters frequently but they come in packs of 1-5 at most and getting more than 10 monsters in the screen seems to be suicide. What this means is we're getting an isometric souls game where you dodge roll behind large monsters and time your attack animations correctly.
If they can keep it a playable game without turning the entire screen into some sort of unplayable bullet hell, sure, otherwise it's PoE 1 all over again.
Also, get rid of the clutter of useless items and different stats for the same items.
Nobody need to p2w stash pages, putting out broken shit and selling the in-game solution is predatory.
These two simple things will not make them money but it will save me time and make me play their game, otherwise I won't play and I will speak poorly of it, for free, for having the same problem as the first game has.
>slower than Diablo 2 on purpose.
Slow is not bad, zoomers on legalized meth should stay on fortnite.
they literally cant turn off delve, metamorph, fragments, blight,delirium
poe has too many endgame systems and its clunky
>Slow is not bad, zoomers on legalized meth should stay on fortnite.
Yes it is you moronic mongoloid PoE was losing players the moment they started slowing down the game and nerfing skills. The game was exciting when you could vaal ground slam and kill the entire screen nobody wants to spend 10 minutes on a map boss or 2 on a white mob maybe D4 is more your tempo so frick off.
>that filename
You need to go back
Remember when they said Blight almost killed the game? If only they knew how good they still had it
Blight was godlike compared to what we had in recent times.
Why the frick did they rape the game with the vision nonsense when it wasn't going to be one game with two campaigns anymore? morons.
Baldo thought it was going to be until he finally capitulated, many cases in game development of this.
I don't play diablo 4, if you want a asiatic bullet hell game go play touhou Black personhomosexual.
And its clear you don’t play poe either otherwise you wouldn’t have such moronic opinions.
If they want a new player, they have to suit my needs, not yours, you are already mazed and can't get out.
If they want new players they wouldn’t slow the game thats the point of what I’m saying moron the game is not fun when it’s slow.
The game isn't fun if you're just running around and everything dies to 1 hit
>The game isn't fun if you're just running around and everything dies to 1 hit
Yes it is because that’s literally what the past 4-5 years of PoE gameplay has been. They already have a mode for morons that want slow gameplay it’s called ruthless you have zero items, movement skills, gems, currency, and nobody fricking plays it.
I don't mean slow like diablo 2, that was clearly an exaggeration, my only problem is someone dashing through the map with a million projectiles on screen and a billion useless loot on the ground that serves no purpose other than clutter the screen and waste computer resources.
Item filter, a million and a half different clutter resource items, WHY?
Just make the slot count on items be something you need to roll for, not status on items randomized and every bullshit under the sun be some sort of thing which has mandatory tinkering.
If you can't bot something and you can't defraud people or make pennies on the dollar with items, the Chinese won't play the game, so they end up turning the game into some sort of unplayable mess.
>billion useless loot on the ground that serves no purpose other than clutter the screen and waste computer resources.
Item filter, a million and a half different clutter resource items, WHY?
Because the game has a billion different item variations and crafting systems? They already tried experimenting moving loot to rare mobs only and it ended up being one of the worst league in recent history people would rather have loot filters and have loot spreadout than have 3-4 loot pinatas in a map.
mazed homosexual
Rares still drop majority of the loot. They just randomized the loot drops because when the loot was tied to specific Rare monster mods, people started skipping Rare monsters that they knew had shitty loot inside. Now its back to slot machine again with "god-touched" mods having higher chance of dropping more and better stuff.
Why not make the stats on the items not be randomized in the first place?
A million currency items in order to make THE PERFECT ITEM, making all that clutter just to sell tabs.
So many tabs, filters for tabs, and then capitalizing on it.
>Why not make the stats on the items not be randomized in the first place?
Because people like crafting and gambling?
>Why not make the stats on the items not be randomized in the first place?
Because then all characters look and play exactly the same in the endgame.
>Because then all characters look and play exactly the same in the endgame.
You mean, like it already is?
Play the game before you open your moronic mouth.
Ok, Path of Juggernaut.
People are playing very different things here.
>SSF
>Ruthless
People play SSF friendly classes in SSF race? No way!
I accept your concession.
>no hc
What's impressive about this?
More Juggernauts?
Certainly, I can oblige.
I counted 9 different ascendancies on that page. Seems pretty diverse to me.
>SSF Ruthless
>Where the items aren’t randomized because there are no item drops
I don’t think this helps your argument buddy.
You are not arguing in good faith, if you only see what you want to see, then why bother replying? Nobody will have any valid point to you.
Your argument was: items needed to have different stats on them because otherwise people would all "look and play exactly the same endgame", they already do.
I say the items have different stats on them for a bunch of different currency in order to sell tabs and customizations because those items only serve the purpose of cluttering the stash.
You use an extremely restrictive and punishing game mode as your example. Go ahead and count how many different PoE builds ManletMathil has in his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@Mathilification/videos
So you agree randomized loot is a good thing right? Because you literally linked a game mode with no randomized item drops.
The crafting and clutter from the regular game is exactly the same.
You drop a random item and there is hundreds of items to adjust that item until it becomes exactly what you want, instead of that, a single stat for an item would be better.
Example: this item can be 400defense or 1000 defense, make it either 1000 or 400 defense all the time, instead of 401 or 999 and then rolling with currency until it becomes 400 and 1000.
You seem really invested in a game you claim you don't play.
Why are you being tsundere, I'm not looking for an anonymous girlfriend(male), thank you.
jesus christ what are they fricking stupid? you don't even need safety training to tell you not to do this, its just BASIC COMMON SENSE
>anally rammed to death by BIG HOT metal rod
Taking a flaming hot metal rod in the butt must be one of the worst ways to die
>unplayable
>bullet hell
moron
>we don't know
only morons can't see that the characters people were given to use aren't optimized in any way. they don't want people to breeze through their demos with minimal effort
Everyone is complaining about the speed but no one really knows what to expect
GGG and Reddit want PoE to be slower so there's a lot of pressure on the brakes
There are 2 camps of people:
Redditors and GGG who want Elden Ring but isometric
PoE fans who played the game at its prime who want a modern version of it
The latter are most of this board who play ARPGs.
The game looked fantastic. It's just that the zoomzooming zoomers are crying because they weren't immediately teleporting around and one shotting entire screens with low level characters.
What is wrong with there being a dedicated dodge? Nearly everyone uses dash, whirling blades, or flame dash so it's not changing much.
>WHY IS THE GAME TAKING SO LONG
>WTF WHY DID THEY RELEASE A HALF COMPLETE GAME
No winning is there
maybe they could develop the game faster than 6 years if they put less than 240 skill gems and 1500 passives in their bloated dumpsterfire
How else are you going to make it so that players have to spend real money on stash tabs so they could afford farming for currency items so that they could have access to regret orbs that they could use to fix their build that has become unviable 3/5ths through the campaign, without even the slightest chance of it being effective even against trash in late game? The passive tree is massive on purpose. Everything in Path of Exile is designed around the eventual use of an "optional" premium service.
>No winning is there
Not when the majority of people are literal fricking morons
>release too early, game's shit and unfinished like D4, get flamed
>take your time to release, morons get impatient, get flamed
>don't split the games, morons cry about their zoom-zoom gameplay being gone, get flamed
>split the games, morons cry for some reason STILL even though they can have their zoom-zoom game in PoE 1, get flamed
literally no winning when you're dealing with 0 IQ subhumans
They make Poe2 slower, like Poe1 was in the past.
GGG now said, Poe2 will be a standalone Game, so they dont need to make Poe1 slower. Somehow thats a controversy. Or rather, Idiots who dont know anything except running the same Build for years, think thats will be bad. In the End they will play both anyway, league on Poe1 end, the one on Poe2 starts. They try to keep gaming peak high and get some Diabtoddlers with it.
watch poe2 become the zoom zoom game we love in 4+ years
>They try to keep gaming peak high and get some Diabtoddlers with it.
They'd have to release at least this year to capitalize on D4, but I doubt that.
MOMY
What's the controversy
>gold.
>autoloot gold
>Boss HP indicator stays on the top of the screen like in d4
As you can see, it is fricking over.
Wait the game now has classes???
The game always had classes. It's just that any class could use any skill, but weaker than classes that were specialized.
No i meant as in diablo classes, classes with unique skills as seen with the gruid in the trailer
Also 6 player coop nani
You can still use every skill with every class.
Apparently the stats do differ a lot depending on which class you choose
Yes that's how PoE classes always worked. Your class picks what passives you access and the passives power up particular skills.
No? Poe1s classes had the same attributes in poe 2 they dont did you not watch the gameplay walkthrough
It's just two classes for each attribute combination now
That's been in the game ever since they added ascendancies.
PoE 2 characters all share the same passive tree. monk and shadow start in the same spot, etc. The differences are in ascendancy classes and the pseudo gem tree they showed which lets you automatically unlock themed skill gems but still find or buy gems that are off-theme.
Yeah I'm actually confused by the class thing. I thought the point of skill gems is that skills aren't tied to any one character and are universal. But it seems they are now?
Means max party size is 6 instead of 4 now
Classes have unique systems to them now
>unique systems
Like what? They always had unique subclasses that had their own skill trees unless you count the very first years of the game when ascendancies didn't exist.
the unique systems come from passive skills, not the class itself. killing palm generating a power charge can be used by anyone.
Max party size was always 6
That's what that anon meant, anon-kun. PoE already had "classes." You could just (badly) cross-class them through the Sphere Grid to the other side/another classes Sphere Grid.
They just changed this up to where "classes" are a little more hard delinated now to where people don't make a mess of "builds" because of it.
diablo can fricking get lost
the amount of content poe2 already has is leagues ahead of diablo 4 (pun intended)
Diablo 3 and 4 are just gateways into the genre that most players never get past.
Surely there will be some full moron FOMO season pass like kirac's vault pass.
Play your daily maps gamer!!
diablo bros how do we win this? I am thinking we call it goyslop and the some Ganker buzzwords like souless or something
>music is still this very orchestral didgeridoo sounding shit
hell yeah the ost of poe 1 is unironically so good
A former independent developer, the studio was acquired by Chinese tech company Tencent in May 2018, after the Chinese company had published the studio's sole title, Path of Exile, in China (excluding Hong Kong and Macau)
SHE'S BACK REEEEE
Alva a cute though
She's a time traveler so they could just bring her back without any big 3D model updates.
Imagine the smell.
Thick odour of burned wood camouflaging the horrible smell of crusty armpits and genitals. Thats how you smell like if you've been stuck in a tent for months in the army. Smell of burned logs sticks to your clothes and hard.
makes sense since we're at the location we've been traveling to when doing incursions
how long will we have to wait for viable builds to come out?
When you make them
I hope we can make the roll do damage for Kirk Fan Club memes
i'm moronic anon, i can only follow a build
>Gold
>2 seperate games
>8 button slow gameplay
no on in their right mind will want to play poe1 anon
going through the slog that is the campaign
>8 button slow gameplay
This is the best thing that can happen to PoE. Actual gameplay with actual depths instead of mashing one button for hundreds of hours.
how is that good
i don't want to play the piano
Black person, spamming flasks and skills in PoE1 was infinitely more like playing the piano than 2 is going to be.
I just want to Flicker Strike through the whole game
And you still will be able to do just that. In PoE 1.
Unless this is your video
You have no right to cry about "muh 1 button gameplay", you have a whole genre about pressing million buttons and you want to infest our cookie clicker with extremely simplified version of the above?
rolling away build will be op
It's a mobile-tier F2P game that plays like a gacha. At this point, they also "borrowed" a few ideas from D4 and even lifted a few visual cues from Grim Dawn. Basically it's a turd. I can see why Crate woke up and are now gearing up for war. D4 failed, PoE is hemorrhaging. The arpg pussy is wide open to get fricked.
lel
poe2 already is way more polished than d4
>gacha
poe has no gacha mechanics
Ignore that anon, he's either moronic or a really bad troll.
suck a dick
thats not a gacha mechanic you dont get an op weapon or something
Yeah true, it was the closest thing I could think he was talking about though.
I mean there are cosmetic lootboxes, but you cant get dupes from those.
PathofMath is that you?
Grim Dawn will never dominate as long as it looks like a game from 3 generations ago.
It's also getting really boring around the time you hit Fort Ikon
But it looks better than PoE, has better animations and isn't a F2P gacha. Unfortunately your mazed addictions carry no weight against reality. It's a chink game now. That is what it is. No amount of crying, huffing, fantasies and stomping of feet will change the fact that Crate have decided to make more GD. Enjoy your paid stash and failed crafting, kid.
>poe has no gacha mechanics
The crafting is pure gacha. This game is also owned by the Chinese and has change since then. So why lie on the internet?
>PathofMath is that you?
Yes, it is I, PathofMess, I mean Math. Nobody in the entire world but me thinks any of this, right? I mean everybody likes scammy always online games with F2P monetization, innit. Yeah, I'm the only one who hates that shit, so like and subscribe to my channel, bro.
What a bunch of mazed idiots, lol
>mazed
here comes the mazed schizo who spends his free time in threads about a game he never played
I thought I was PathofMath? Now I'm the mazed guy? Make up your mind you sad clown. Being mazed is a common expression on people who have an online gambling addiction. Meaning you are so fricking desperate to have something, anything, as a retort that you create imaginary shadow puppets. Listen, son. D4 is flopping and the big PoE 2 reveal showed they droppped the ball so hard it split the concrete at the convention just now. Hard enough that it woke Crate because they can smell blood. That is as things are today. I'm sure the next guy who laughs at you will also be "the mazed guy" and one other that and...
You're a clown. A mazed, desperately addicted always online clown. Over F2P cash shop gacha cancer. Take a bow. GGG are pretty much done because this was going to be the thing that saved them. And it aint looking good. Like at all.
>Stop talking about games I don't personally like! STOP IT!
>can't even distinguish between two anons
Stopped reading there. Keep seething projecting homosexual.
hang on crate announced something? grim dawn owns
>crafting
KEK nobody crafts in poe besides the 1% morons min maxing
>freeze works on bosses now too
HELL YEA
Freeze works on everything that's not a player with freeze immunity. Just most high-end bosses have a minimum action speed.
TEMPLARCHADS WW@?!?
>finally not an old dude
Right by your side
>taste flames
seems like a pretty abysmal convention. can't even watch the streamed stuff at the event because there are no screens for it? you have to watch on your phone/tablet while sitting inside the convention center like a moron
>seems like a pretty abysmal convention. can't even watch the streamed stuff at the event because there are no screens for it?
Are you blind? All the streamed stuff happens on the big screen right behind the streamer.
wait i just started getting into path of exile 1 and a sequel is about to come out? FRICK
its due in 2+ years anon you have time
Beta in a year, and you've got a new league in like 3 months, don't worry bro. Its best to get a lot of your learning out of the way now and just play.
Next league comes out next month.
I meant to type weeks not months, thats my bad, its pretty late.
Downloading poe then
so chris willy is and isn't working on poe1 while working on poe2, poe2 isn't poe 4.0 but actually a new game and still poe1 isn't going away? something frickin' stinks
yep and Ruthless will never influence the main game or take any dev time oh btw here's a sequel that plays like Ruthless 2.0 just a coincidence 😉
Tencent boosted their budget immensely.
The two games can share a lot of assets and mechanics.
They have a ton of technical experience that makes creating new leagues easy.
>Tencent boosted their budget immensely.
that has me a bit worried honestly
leagues and leagues ago he specifically said he'd be letting go of spearheading league development to go work on poe2 and he's been real touch and go with language talking directly about who's directing what and when
it sounds like chris was interfering with what the designers wanted and they let him make ruthless to keep him occupied
very worrying
Chris isn't working on PoE 2.
1/3 of new PoE 2 monsters in the gameplay were just PoE 1 monsters with new textures and new animations. They're doing the same shit Elden Ring was doing and just grab old monsters from their old games and give them a new coat of paint and skillsets. Ziz video in the jungle had the giant grabs from PoE1 Act 6 with new roll attack, good old Blood Monkeys from Act 2, Vaal Temple had the golems from Delve, Mathils prison area had Sanctums giant zombies.
Man that prison looked dope though, awesome design.
It started as just 4.0, the scope grew too large to integrate everything from the old game. Chris isn't really working on it, Jonathan is and doesn't even pay attention to what's going on in poe1
>reservation overhauled
>f ree fireball
He died. How can you free him?
this is cool free spells
Thats for n00bs that cant manage mana or use flasks and dont want to attack with a staff.
moron
Looks like mediocre combat, punishing new player experience, paid QoL updates, Guide required to play, ugly armor design, 60-400 dollar seasonal armor sets and more PoE gays not registering that their game is boring as frick.
But enough about Diablo 4.
Same game really. PoE was never good.
Except there's no paid mechanical shit in Diablo 4.
>this is what blizztrannies really believe
lol
>same game
English, spic?
You have to pay 70 upfront and theres a Season Pass on top in D4.
Season pass is all cosmetic. No paid mechanical shit.
>SMOLDERING ASHES
>free
>Paying to boost your pass for more access faster
>Paying money to unlock stash tabs
Sorry but PoEtards will never ever win this argument, your game is infinitely more p2w.
PoE has more stash tabs for free than Diablo 4.
Thats because D4 cant give people more since the game tries to be a psuedo mmo and for some reason seeing anyone else out in the open causes you to load their entire stash.
>needs more than half a stash tab
gitgud
Yes, we know Diablo 4
is dogshit.
I just dont know why you would design this to begin with
Rhykker thinks this is leftover code from Diablo 3, because they tried giving extra stashes back then but it made the game laggy as frick.
Wouldn't surprise me, saves them a lot of time with creating a network infrastructure and implementing it into battle.net.
It probably is. Same engine as D3 just with 10 years of iteration.
why the frick would they do this
blizz are moronic
>singular company "are" X
I fricking hate europeans.
[the collective developers of blizzard] are moronic
Had you said that, it wouldn't be gay. But Blizzard is a company. Blizzard are not a company.
i was inferring it by using the word are
learn to read context, european
I'm an American. We invented the english language.
>loading entire stash
Did blizzard hire a malaysian software company to program diablo4? Seeing how they can't immediately hotfix this with their team of programmers working at the HQ, it makes me think they're contacting some 3rd party in a foreign country and it takes more time than you'd expect to solve simple issues.
Considering their season 1 patch introduced bugs they already patched out, I assume everyone working on this is a moron.
It's just laziness. My guess is they have a character class which they use for the user playing his own character. Which has the stash as a property. I don't know why in this case the stash doesn't load on demand either but again, laziness.
They then use the same character class for all other players in the vicinity.
>Xp boost
>not P2W
Ok, Blizztroony.
It's free, you dipshit.
Yes yes and Diablo Immortal is not P2W, the devs promised and we all know we can trust what Blizzard says.
I don't know anything about Overwatch 2, because Diablo is the only good thing Blizzard made.
You...need to hit the level prerequisite. You'll manually unlock the tiers long before. The first ashes are t8, which is probably 15 minutes of grinding, but you can't use them until 43. You're moronic.
>I don't know anything about Overwatch 2, because Diablo is the only good thing Blizzard made.
Blizzard advertised OW2 with "Huge PVE mode with hundreds of missions!"
Then they released OW2 without the PvE saying that its coming.
Recently they announced PvE is cancelled.
the new league looks pretty fricking bad
i can't play pseudo standard again for the third time in 4 leagues...
Buy diablo 4
Bro all leagues are pseudo standard. They're always a gimmick or activity added on top of regular PoE I have no idea why you expect otherwise.
true but most league mechanics which take place outside of maps usually feel shit because you rarely get to do the mechanic. so while sentinel was basically just juiced up standard you got to use your bots every map and it was fun. but shit like crucible and kalandra where they're outside the map AND shit makes it so much worse
If it makes you feel any better, leagues like Sanctum are a fluke since someone confirmed today there are only 8 devs working on PoE1 and its leagues anymore for about the past 2 years or so now.
Sanctum was pretty wild but yes
In 2 years time when the game comes out D4 will have its first expansion out already
This greasy nerd managed to make PoE into his Hearthstone Battleground autobattler garbage.
How does he do it?
looks kinda cool might try it depends on the price and what the final product looks like
its free*
>and what the final product looks like
It looks like 10 boring acts you have to repeat and following guides to know which of the 1500 bubbles you are going to cookie cut as people pretend you can make something unique.
sounds like an low IQ issue tbh
Well yes, PoE players are pretty dumb.
>an low IQ issue
Indeed.
>looks kinda cool might try it depends on the price
The game is free. Like a heroin dealer the first sample is free and when you're hopelessly hook, thats where they start showing you convenient stash tabs that make your collected stuff look prettier on the screen with less clicking involved.
rest in piss
>slow dogshit combat
>gold and auction house
>free respec
>dodge rolls
>cooldowns
They are going agaisnt every core tenet of the game to please the blizzard and fromsoftware audience
I think you're mistaking this thread with a diablo one.
>gold
Only used for buying stuff from vendors and is untradeable so it's whatever.
>auction house
When did they say this?
Man you are so fricking deluded.
Its so obvious from everything so far.
They have split up PoE from PoE 2 in order to be able to make PoE 2 completely different. That includes an auction house, yes
>making shit up
Damn, you're really mazed.
Yea bro they added gold just so you can be able to trade with vendors easily
Sounds great
It looked great though, dynamic, varied Souls ARPG mechanics are great and it shows how improved PoE2 is
wow it actually might be fun to play now.
people who played it says it feels like shit
>thread about PoE
>ends up talking more about Diablo
kek every time
only a few autists give a frick about your slotmachine Chris
>2024
>PoE2 should be about fearing white mobs. White mobs should take off half of your health per hit and stunlock you. And Rare mobs? They should be gods. Life Regen rare mob will be the strongest enemy in the game. If you die then you'll just have to git gud and clear everything again. Or farm gold. This is PoE2.
>PoE1? Never played it. Lol.
why did chris let this moron take over poe2
Jesus christ this is the vibes they really give.That entire hour of PoE 2 just pissed me off so hard.
Atleast they are letting me keep playing PoE 1
The demo was obviously overtuned to make people play slower. Christ, you guys are such sissies.
Did you not see how slow the damn roll was?
No it for sure will be slow combat, screen-clearing is completely gone. Why would a screen cleaner use a fricking dodge roll
All of the skillgems everyone ware using were unsupported or with one supportget.
They have also confirmed there are passives boosting the roll.
I know you're here just to shitpost but get a grip.
they said supports don't give damage and if they do it comes at the expense of something else
so the damage isn't even going to be much better
some random on quin's stream said he found a gg mace and autoattacked through the demo (because he could no longer use any of the monk skill gems because it wasn't a quarterstaff)
that's moronic
>skill gems have weapon type limitations
Whoah. Did you even play PoE1?
don't be moronic. melee skills are weapon specific now not a selection of weapons
>source: my ass
Did both of you forget some skills already have weapon limitations? Slams don't work on swords. Cleave doesn't work on Maces.
t. Ranny
Why are you here if you haven't even played the game?
yes but now they're for one weapon only..
watch the animation panel
>both
Learn to read ESL.
There are a lot of specific weapon skills in poe, hell daggers and claws even have their own unique shit.
but why would you show that? it was so slow it made the game look bad. why don't they show that then say "here's a more thought out build to show off this harder area" and show us a character that actually has support gems and auras and rare items
Because they want to show off the game more clearly instead of running around like a headless chicken.
They might also still have more work to do to make everything look good at higher speeds.
They did that last time as well, that's why we got the 3.15 frickening because Chris said "We made the demo punishing as hell and got lots of positive feedback, so we're making the real game like that, buy our supporter packs lmao". That is absolutely how the actual game is going to play.
>White mobs should take off half of your health per hit and stunlock you.
What your describing is just PoE1 and that's why you never ever stand still in that game.
Watch Preach's segment of him playing PoE2 and tell me that shit is okay. It was like someone trying to do a 100% deli map with a shit build.
Its pretty obvious they're going assets first-balance later approach. In the demo that one coast map anchor fattie Rare was basically unkillable with Hinder Aura and self-regen.
is he half chinese?
I looks good but they all do in these trailers. I have absolutely no doubt that most of the skills shown won't be useful outside of the first 60 or so levels and the game will devolve into a speed clear meta just like PoE1.
It's literally a reskinned Diablo but shittier for 3rd worlders to play for free lmao!
>gold
>autoloot gold
>no item drop fixes
>duelist gone
>slayer gone
>melee even more dogshit
>10 minute boss fight every area
>yet another auctionhouse
poedrones on suicide watch
Looks sluggish and boring just like D4.
>Finally an ARPG that isn't about alpha striking and spamming the same abilities over and over
>Must use actual movesets and more active skills alongside defensive options and poise system
>homosexuals b***h and moan because muh Dark Souls
Yes, Dark Souls plays great so it's normal that other ARPGs take some mechanics from it
>CLOSED beta in June, 2024 (11 months away)
>standalone even tho claimed otherwise all these years since announcement
poekeks?
I liked Path of Exile when I played it but it always gave me a headache because of its graphics. It looks like there's a light haze over it or something? Is it bloom? I don't know. The PoE2 trailer seems to have the same sort of haze going on. Is there a way to turn that off?
I thought it was going to kill Diablo 4 but it literally looks exactly like Diablo 4 but won't come out for another couple years.
Over a year just for a CLOSED beta.
Blizztrannies are on full damage control
>most popular poe streamer
>4 feet tall
>manlet
average australian ""male""
he's also gay but a lot of people don't seem to realize
>Even more of a manlet than Quin
Damn, poor guy.
all top poe streamers are giga short
>quin, mal, ziz, steel, alk
MANLET GAME
>most popular poe streamer
Quin?
that is a women
Never seen D4bucks this shook.
GLorious innit
crafting yourself is a waste of time and currency almost every single time
someone else has done it and is already selling it
they nerfed crafting so much that the normies cant even do it anymore
Why does chris want a bunch of casuals in the game suddenly
>suddenly
PoE 2 already filtered casuals from Ganker and it hasn't released yet. I think this counts as a win.
>gem cutting is a skill tree
poechads it was supposed to be our time!
best part of everything is that ggg is so far disconnected from the playerbase they yet again copied the current diablo game
they will get so many whales to shell out for mtx over and over
Every time I see someone complaining about GGG I immediately think it's a shill operation to get them to sell the remaining percentage they own to the Chinese.
THEY FXED WEAÜPN SWAPPING
>weapon swapping and weapon set specific talent tree
we got loadouts basically
I imagine there is gonna be something absurdly stupid with it, movement skills or something gonna go haywire.
oh i hope so
meme builds are gonna have a field time
Most likely. Apparently Quin talked to some guy who tested the PoE 2 demo, he found a mace that just allowed him to destroy the content with basic auto-attacks.
In other words the builds in the demo are shit and most likely you can break the game as easily as PoE 1 once you get access to all gear and skill points.
Only skill points from skill books can be used to swap between weapon sets.
"We try to avoid cooldowns cause we hate when combat feels like waiting for your next skill" wow the d4 devs could learn alot from these guys
poebros after the news i installed diablo 4
i actually like it more than poe now
all that money spend on mtx and clown lootboxes gone
its time to come how anons
bait
I've been playing Grim Dawn since those devs announced new stuff is in the works. Haven't played a POE league since Archnemesis and every new league confirms my lack of interest in current state poe.
The rollslop is the absolute final nail in the coffin.
Nobody is forcing you to spam roll like it's Dark Souls 3.
no cooldown, already conditioned
So basically you have a monkey brain that preempitvely dodges instead of reactionally.
Rolling looks like it slows you down quite a bit too, so its actually a defensive tool.
All of GGG's customers watched in real time while they destroyed their first game. Why would you play the sequel?
>at least poe mobile looks good and isn't also a dumpster fire
poe mobile
They did the devs dirty on this, made it look like a god damn dumpster fire.
>blizz release mobile diablo
>"that's not a game"
>GGG release their own mobile PoE
>it's a Powerpoint slideshow
grim
Isn't it only 8 developers on this? Makes sense it looks like shit when it's probably never coming out due to that.
>PoE2 will fix the content bloat and speedclear meta
>Support gems are finally support gems instead of stacking damage
>Universal movement skill
>Gold instead of a gorillion currency types
PoE is finally healing
The crafting currencies are still there.
unironically
the beta is a year out and it already looks more polished, has more content than diablo4 currently
someone post the picture of wojak covered in shit and crawling, i need it
you can call me a blizzdrone or whatever just post it
Did yall see that PoE dev say that basically for the last year and a half the PoE 1 team has consisted of 8 people
Most of GGG were working on PoE 2
makes sense considering
He said since they couldnt launch PoE 2 this year they moved back people to PoE 1 and pushed the launch back to next year so the leagues up until PoE 2 should be way better
i hope so
Its a miracle we got Sanctum league being as good as it was with only 8 people.
>Most of GGG were working on PoE 2
Then why is it taking them 6 years?
Scope creep probably. Also i doubt most of GGG was working on PoE 2 for the past 4 years
Covid happened, remember? They're kiwis, so they got fricked extra hard.
Every IT company I know experienced increased productivity during Covid as people couldn't spend 4 hours a day gossiping.
COVID is just an excuse by developers that never play tested their shit (see: DICE, Battlefield 2042) during it because "muh connection bad" (which is valid, but come the frick on: a lot of developer houses are in areas with decent enough internet)
PoE2 shouldn't require a 50+gig download for every build. So remote working shouldn't be a stumbling block.
Because it will be released in 2028
what's with arpg devs and slow gameplay? why can't they let us zoom?
you never played poe1 the first couple years did you
actually my account is from 2011 and after trying it then (because it was slow and janky) i didn't play it again until synthesis
Diablo 4 lets you zoom.
But does it let you zoom out?
In context, I was assuming you meant zoom zoom through millions of enemies quickly. The zoom level seems fine at 4k, though.
there's no chance it won't be much faster. the characters in the demos have like no skills, passives, gear, or anything
and they're committing to having very minimal cooldown bullshit on skills besides ones that are exceedingly strong and impactful so at baseline it'll be 10x faster paced that diablo 4
Why do you morons keep parroting this bullshit when there is no evidence its true?
They are showcasing us slow gameplay for a reason.Thats what they want the game to be like
the characters don't even have 3 links and no gear. go play poe through poe right now with 2 links and no gear and it won't feel much different than poe2 demos look
but why is that what they showed us? do one demo like that, sure, but don't make everything we see cripple gameplay
it's supposed to showcase some of the new systems and interactions, graphics and environment and character art/animations etc. if they gave everyone a 1 button screen clearing braindead average poe build there would be nothing new to see and people would question why they're even going through the effort of making another game
yeah that's why i said do one demo like that. then give us a demo with a character who isn't wheelchair bound trying to traverse a set of stairs
They want to show new systems and have people look at pretty graphics, unironically.
First of all, they said support gems DO NOT increase damage.
Second of all, why not show some more realistic gameplay, instead of everything they showed us being even slower than fkin D4
what do you think they were doing for last few years? constantly slowing down. Cutting everything they could. Ruthless is their prototype. No items, no loot, no zoom, controlled power level, hard game. That will increase RMT to cosmic levels.
ahahahahah fricking poe shills on suicide
played PoE for like 100 hours (meaning i don't give a shit about it)
and PoE 2 looks great so far, looking forward to playing it especially since i skipped D4. all the changes i've seen are cool
Itll take a couple weeks for streamers to figure out the best builds
>new poe game
>people immediately start shit talking blizzard and thinking "lmao BLIZZKEKS need to LOOK at THIS"
you morons really can't get their names of your mouths, so desperate for PoE to be good when it's always been trash
>start shit talking blizzard
>start
Anon
I found it quite desparate how they do nothing but mention diablo during the event
last words before the announcement were literally "d4 bad"
then constant "jabs" at d4, as if poe system and ideas are all better and perfect
it's like a little brother that can't overshadow his older brother, no matter how much he tries
D4 shitters invading the chat and spamming "This is trash D4 is better" certainly didn't help. Why aren't you playing your overpriced broken game instead of shitposting here and in the chat of PoE?
>he says as poebabs do nothing but seethe at d4 all day every day, on all videos and social medias
hilarious
The people seething at d4 are the morons who bought it
>last words before the announcement were literally "d4 bad"
It was twitch streamer who said that
I'm so fricking angry bros. Path of Exile 2 seems what Diablo IV should have been and there's no fucing justification for Blizzard doing or being surpassed by a bunch of free to play game made by kiwis.
I mean, what the frick happened? How did they get so fricking good?
>Path of Exile 2 seems what Diablo IV should have been
what do you mean? vaporware?
Blizzard only started D4 after the phones incident and it is clear with most of the technical issues they didn't know what the hell they're doing.
>poe is f2p guys
>you can play the entire campaign for free
>you can play the entire endgame for free
>you can play casually for free
"free to play"
Yes?
you're mazed
paying $100 for a few stash tabs in poe feels like more impactful and engaging content than paying $100 for diablo 4
It's only $70 if you don't want battle pass cosmetics.
>only $70
that is 70 dollerinos too much
So spend a few thousand on your free game and support china.
blizzdrone cope
I know. You won't actually spend any money because you're poor.
Your soul is being corrupted and you don't even recognize it.
I like how blizzdrones suddenly memoryhole Blizzard having chink dick up their ass.
Probably in reference to a game I don't play.
Chinks make up the majority of Blizzard games population you can’t even hop on a wow server without the an addon because it’s filled chinese character spam. It’s all projection if you ask me.
i would rather support china than californians
the battlepass is like 90% of the content of the seasons
seasonal content is free, battlepass is only cosmetic
>game company decides how much shit you have to collect and how much space you have for storage
>also offers to sell you more space
Man, don't do that.
they hate you because you speak truth.
I have a problem with this as well.
>Make poorly optimized stash
>We fixed it, but there is a cost to you for it
They would make more money just charging 10 bucks for the game.
don't need that to beat the game.
By the time you feel the need to buy any of those you'd have spent more time playing it than Diablo 4 before droppping that game.
Only thing sad about PoE2 being separate is that 1 will now be forever stuck with links being tied to gear
>they revealed movement abilities except the roll
owari
The controversy is that the game is so fricking good and people so exited to play it, that the idea that they have to play D4 instead (cause they only play the newest thing) horrifies them. That's why they demand the devs to release the game, because D4 is so bad. But to be honest, D4 and POE2 have completely different intended audiences.
>diablo 4
>pay upfront then wait for patches to improve the game
>poe
>free to play but you have to start and keep paying to have a good experience
gee i wonder which is better
>poe
>completely free trial
>decide if you want to actually pay for stash tabs and continue playing the game well into endgame
>d4
>pay $90 and no refunds
The free game with the option to opt in, definitely. Definitely better than the $100 base game with $25 cash shop items and full battle pass.
This is the biggest goym thinking. The game is now designed with inconveniences to sell you the solution. Why are GGG dick suckers so hungry for f2p scam tactics?
Your brain is literally broken, I guess. PoE is cheaper overall, and ENTIRELY FREE if you want to just start playing. Lol, there is not a single scenario where D4 is better.
keep paying for what? you can buy like 1 quad tab and the currency and map tabs and that's plenty for the average player. only 0.01% of the playerbase does any of the actual endgame so there's never a need to buy more
most of the people in this thread haven't made it to t16 maps
Day one for me.
The controversy is that you're a shill frick that needs to hang himself.
>PoE1 skeleton crew with lacklustre leagues
>PoE2 completely shits on the game's legacy
If you don't have a lvl 100 hardcore character you aren't allowed to post ITT
>ugly ass game with scummy predatory f2p monetization and super overpriced mtx shit
vs
>complete package that's gonna go on sale for 20$ in a year
>2 more weeks, it'll be on sale
>complete package
The game doesn’t even have resistances that work or more than 2 pinnacle bosses.
Either a lack of reading comprehension, cope, blatant moronation, or you are frightened by reality that you got played by a f2p title.
Keep showing those problematic white male PoE-fans whats up, sister! Hellz yeah feminism!
All I can read out of PoE fanboy posts is a tantrum. Nobody but the biggest cum slurpers are excited for what's to come. Spare us with yet another cope post.
>t.
You don't get to see PoE 2 coming out, you have joined 41% long before then.
5 reskinned grey tilesets and 10 "builds" for 20$ a year?
what a steal
Diablo IV will be on steam by the end of the year, it will probably get a Christmas discount of at least 20%.
>complete package
kek, some people might miss that part, but I didn't.
>blizzdrones and that one mazed gay ITT
Christ, this is sad.
Post specs, poorgay.
I won't. What are you gonna do now? Cry?
>chrisdrones and all estrogen pills
lmfao
>closed beta
>in two thousand fricking twenty four
dead in the water
poe
>increase stat
>damage go up
>various way to make that damage interact with different effects
diablo 4
>increase stat
>lucky hit: 5% chance for damage to go up for 0.8 seconds while the enemy is vulnerable and frozen and stunned on the first full moon of the year that falls on a tuesday while wearing a hat
It's two entirely different games, POE is not a bad game, but the way they built the monetization within it made it somewhat predatory, that is the only thing I disagree with, it is an awesome game overall.
Honest question.
Have you ever bought microtransactions in PoE, and if so, how many hours did you have clocked when you did?
>Have you ever bought microtransactions in PoE
No but I wish I had, that's the fricking problem. I had to throw shit away and micromanage my stash all the time, it was like playing fricking tarkov without edge of darkness.
>how many hours did you have clocked when you did?
I quit the game on a occultist roll during crucible, probably 150 hours in, I rushed the campaign and went straight to maps, I was doing t12 and t14 maps when I quit.
I followed a damage-over-time build I copied on the internet.
I couldn't go as fast as other people that basically ran through exploding every thing on the screen, I killed shit, but I couldn't see shit at some point, I was always behind, when I played alone I could solo t10, when I tried to go higher I got off-screened by random shit even with max resists, defensives, all set right.
So much worse than paying 70 bucks for an "MMO" that bricks your PC when another player walks in your screen because he has items in his stash tabs.
Things that didn't happen for $500, Aaron Rodgers.
>D4 Devs are just talking shit about their game for shits and giggles!
Keep coping troony
it does happen, go to a world boss with a lot of people there and the game starts lagging to shit. seems to have gotten worse in season 1 too
Oh, other anon said it bricked your pc.
forgot to mention the diablo 4 example has a 20 second cooldown as well
Stats are so hard to understand. 🙁
it's not the stats being difficult to understand, it's that they're not fun to engage with. they both don't feel impactful and don't feel significant. there's a reason the only stats people seek are the ones with no conditions or consistent conditions. like damage reduction%, vulnerable damage%, crit damage% etc
I always seek the crowd control condition for my damage, because that's 99.999% of what I do.
Except that isn't what they said. The game doesn't crash when you see other players, moron.
The lag is dependent on something else, because if you switch instances, it can be fine. I saw one with a ping of 100+ earlier today, but the other 20 or so I checked were all low.
>The lag is dependent on something else, because if you switch instances, it can be fine.
The blizzard dev specifically said its because of Stash tabs. Are you suggesting your precious Blizzard devs are lying? Holy cope, Blizztroony!
The blizzard dev says they had trouble adding extra tabs because of that. They didn't say it was lagging out the game currently. Every instance is going to have 10-12 people. Why is one out of a frickton lagging out? Is that the only one where everyone has their stashes full? Think before you post.
>The blizzard dev says they had trouble adding extra tabs because of that.
That by itself is a major frickup that you're trying to deny exists. Cope, troony.
Holy shit it's Halo Infinite all over again. The UI is too powerful, the devs can no longer control it.
>Game doesn’t have any meaningful fricking trading
>You still load other peoples inventory
You cannot make this shit up.
>posts pic confirming what I said
It is, but that's not what we were talking about. And I'll stick my big troony wiener in your ass and make you a lady.
Only trannies are D4 fans, thats a fact.
midwit take stolen from youtube videos hahaha
GOOD MORNING SIR
still on a melty after yesterdays keynot? chris is really btfoing you
SIR
Streamers at exilecon currently fake their enthusiasm until they are home and in safety. This reveal is going to get torn apart in two weeks tops.
>2 more weeks
I feel like there's a hate between fans of Diablo with Path of Exile. How so?
Aside from same genre.
Blizzdrones hate PoEgays because they got the real successor to D2. PoEgays hate blizzdrones because they view them as subhumans with battered wife syndrome.
>anecdote
The real successor to D2 was Borderlands, and it always has been.
I stand corrected. My bad.
>D4 released too early
>PoE is killing itself
>Last Epoch taking ages
>Wolcen, what happened to it?
This genre is doomed.
Grim Dawn expansion pack 3 was teased, the genre is saved.
>grim yawn
does grim dawn have builds that aren't just auto-attacking with procs yet? i played it a long time ago but got kinda bored before finishing it
>Last Epoch taking ages
I don't get it. what's happening? they are already reworking the campaign's chapters before even releasing it? by the time they finish reworking the whole game, chapter 1 will be obsolete again and they'll start reworking it too? release planned for 2054.
>What's the controversy with Path of Exiles 2?
>4.8k thumbs up
>48 thumbs down
all in your head OP
all in your head
Only homies that PAID to play a free game are mad
Two facts:
1. Poe2 looks exactly like Poe1, which is very mediocre
2. Poe2 gameplay looks exactly like Poe1 gameplay which means it's full of instadeaths and autistic spell descriptions
Conclusion: They only call this version 2 because they are risk averse and the only safe way to iterate on Poe1 is to make a new game. They had no intention of actually making a new game, they just want to be able to introduce a gold economy and add some long needed things that Poe1 players would ragequit on.
>Two facts:
>posts false statements
What did he mean by this?
>2. Poe2 gameplay looks exactly like Poe1 gameplay
Confirmed to never have played PoE 1. PoE 2 ironically looks something closer to Grim Dawn or Nioh 2. PoE 1 looks like a japanese bullet hell shmup where the entire screen is fireballs.
You're comparing trailer gameplay of POE 2 to actual gameplay of POE 1 though. Look at any POE 1 trailer, they showcase much slower gameplay than what it actually is.
>You're comparing trailer gameplay
Frick off troony.
how does this not look identical to Poe1? the graphics are 10% nicer but they didnt even bother to copy the D4 map which is infinitely superior to having a gray blurry jpeg overlayed on top of your entire screen all game long
Thank at least for confirming you're baiting.
>copy the D4 map which is infinitely superior
Oh my god I didn't think these levels of wtf were possible. What's wrong with you?
so tiresome to debate fanboys, just dont respond if you have no arguments
>how does this not look identical to Poe1?
Ziz spends 2 minutes killing one unique monster in the map. If he tries to mob more monsters together he gets stunlocked to death if theres more than 10 monsters on the screen. Meanwhile in PoE 1:
Its pretty obvious you haven't played a single minute of PoE 1.
he is playing campaign mode with a totally new build in their alpha. By the time Poe2 is out and he is in endgame it will be the exact same thing
This is pretty much exactly what POE1 early acts look like when you don't know the game well yet.
Not really, thats Act 3. PoE 1 Act 3 you're already way faster than this. Imagine if the tiny red bugs in the slums could mob you and stunlock you to death.
nobody that is new to the game is faster than this in act 3 and the only reason anyone is faster is because of mobility spells and researched builds which he Ziz obviously wasnt able to do. Also I have no idea why ppl say that this is a soulslike when I havent seen him dash a single time
>Also I have no idea why ppl say that this is a soulslike when I havent seen him dash a single time
Thats why he keeps dying. Mathil also dies extremely fast but starts doing better when he starts playing the game like Nioh instead of like PoE 1.
Grim Dawn looks like garbage and plays like garbage so you are right there. Nioh2 is an incredibly complex souls like third person over the shoulder action rpg which is nothing like Poe2.
Poe2 will also be bullet hell because their fanbase likes it. Their trailers obviously dont show that because it removes the fantasy of imagining a better game
?
what controversy?
have a nice day SWIFTLY, op
PoE2 probably will be the best
PoE as it is now isn't though
It looks literally like the ARPG I've been wanting my whole life. PoE sucks. Diablo 2 3 and 4 suck. Diablo 1 was the only good one.
PoE2 is basically top down Dark Souls with procedural generated items and maps and shit.
wishful thinking at its peak. If GGG were capable of making a good game they would have made it in Poe1. Their item and spell descriptions are still autistic and nonsensical, their economy is all broken, they have one-button gameplay where you only ever use one spell and your entire build is around one spell. They fixed none of that throughout the entire lifespan of Poe1. But Poe2 will be the great soulslike action rpg you always wanted, sure bro. Suddenly all the devs at GGG are swapped out for people who give a shit and life is good all of a sudden
Well going by GGG's linked in, alot of the staff at the company now are actually new people and I imagine it's only the ancient old ones working on poe1
that's good but the main problem is Chris himself who says insane things like "hey, I believe really hard end bosses shouldnt drop better quality items than random mobs. Every creep in the game should drop every item in the game!"
He is right about that.
yeah little clown boy, so true. When I beat a hard boss I love it when nothing drops. You should become a game designer like Chris
You and the same clown people are arguing people need to waltz through the map in the shortest amount of time possible, if you want the experience of killing a boss to be the same as a white mob, why not get the same odds at loot as well?
>wahhh it's too slow
>wahhhh I can't customize the item to minute detail for it to he the best item ver
Chris isn't working on 2
>moron spends more than 3 grand on his cpu + gpu just because it's intel and nvidia
>poorgay spends $8 and a handful of cheetos on his CPU and GPU because that's all he can afford
The "I have more money" argument just doesn't hold weight when you use it for dumb frick things like a 4090. You need someone to manage your wealth for you or it won't end well.
Why are you blizztrannies always like this?
I'm still in shock. How could they frick up so hard?
Frick up what?
The game.
How?
You just lost.
Poorgays always say that.
>you could have spent that money on this, this, and this! you're not spending it wisely!
But I can also spend it there, and save money, and enjoy life. I'm not so poor that a 4090 is in any way a major purchase.
Post the video of the indian village with people getting served slop. It's so original!
>I'm not so poor that a 4090 is in any way a major purchase.
Not saying it is. What I'm saying is that it's indicative of an impulsive person who isn't good at managing money. It's not about a single purchase, it's about your habits.
I buy a good PC. It lasts me a couple of years, and I replace what isn't useful anymore.
That's not a mass reply. Lurk moar.
>mass reply
Blizzard troony is losing it. I'm sorry that new footage of a superior game is upsetting you.
The only controversy is that the beta will start in June 2024. So release might end up being Q1 2025.
>Q1
Anon it's only a closed beta. They still need closed beta 2, open beta 1, open beta 2 and supporter early access before release.
June 2024 - Closed beta 1
September 2024 - Closed beta 2
December 2024 - Open beta 1
March 2025 - 7 day early access, then full release
PoE 3.0 (10 Acts) patch was closed beta for the entire beta cycle of 6 months.
I think the game looked cool.
Gameplay looked like shit. That said, things might change when people get to try the beta and make proper builds.
arpgs are all equally dogshit
>arpgs are all equally dogshit
Titan Quest used to be good... before the expansions.
more excited for new league than poe 2
I'm no PoE expert (only in act 3) but I think 2 looks great. People who know what they're talking about may feel differently.