i remember playing D3 when it released. >act 4, heaven >AHHHH SO YOU MADE IT TO MY REALM OF TERRROROROROROROR >BEHOLD! MY TERRORRORRRORR! >YOU WILL NEVER ESCAPE MY AWESOME TERROROROROROR!
i alt+f4'd the moment i killed diablo, uninstalled and didnt touch it until RoS was released.
D3 launch sucked but they turned it around. I have no hope for 4. Their other franchises have produced nothing worth a damn in the interim, they fired/ran out most of their actual talent, and it's a GaaS (aka, updates will focus on player retention and MTX over fun).
OW actually good IP eventho i have no idea wtf the point of OWL was. the game's shit to watch. jeff kaplan left, so just dont fall for 2
ow was good during beta and after release until they focused on esport and forcing ranked rules on quickplay
OW was fine, worth $40
except when they downgraded it and called it 2 while taking away the one I paid for (could they really not have left it and just removed official dedicated servers?)
I never played Warcraft 3 as a kid and bought Reforged a few months ago, after playing the tutorial mission I found out I could play with the old graphics, did that, and never went back. I didn't even particularly hate the new ones but it's so much more colorful and fun, plus I love these little frickers
yeah it's a wonderful game. I sit on the bus on the way home from school and talk about it with other 11 year olds, then we would be like "ok log in and I'll host the game when you get home" etc etc
Very different from every other RTS I've ever played too, I still love Age of Empires II but this one might beat it out one day if I stick with it. I was skeptical about the hero micro at first when I found out Arthas had a little inventory but it's turned out to be completely bearable
I don't get it. I like it, I don't feel I "fell" for anything.
Diablo 2 Resurrected is amazing, this one is amazing too.
I spent 10 years shitting on Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2, so I don't hesitate to call Blizzard out when they are trash, but D2R and D4 are solid.
I'm not sucking their dick, but I'm not going to hate on them for no reason.
>Diablo 2 Resurrected is amazing
kek he doesnt know >tcp/ip >nham
imagine paying blizzard for upgraded textures when project diablo 2 has 60 fps widescreen support without removed features
I literally don't give a frick about LAN, the last time that actually happened was more than 20 years ago. I know removing features is bad, but realistically for me this isn't something I'm going to lose sleep over since it literally doesn't affect me.
It's garbage aimed at normalhomosexuals who play 3 hours a week and never push for anything endgame-related so why even bother designing an endgame. Not worth $7 let alone $70.
I doubt Diablo 1 and 2 were designed to play forever, they never meant them to have an "endgame". Diablo 4 already has more endgame potential than 1 and 2 since they do actually have plans to support the game further with seasons and expansions and whatnot.
>I doubt Diablo 1 and 2 were designed to play forever, they never meant them to have an "endgame".
20 years have passed by, your standards should be adjusted accordingly. Like someone said above, you don't want to go back to the days of running 10k Baal runs in a row.
Not sure what you are trying to say. 10k Baal runs is not something the developers intended either. As I said, Diablo 2 didn't have an "endgame" designed, and it was not mean to play forever. I think the developers are just as much surprised why people keep palying it 10-20 years later.
Expecting that kind of longetivity from Diablo 4 is silly, and not sure what you are expecting them to do aside from what they already have planned.
>As I said, Diablo 2 didn't have an "endgame" designed, and it was not mean to play forever.
No fricking shit. Why is it that 2 decades can pass and nothing in that department has improved? Does D4 have any meaningful endgame to speak of? What the frick are you grinding for once you're done with the campaign?
>I literally don't give a frick about LAN
remember to always stay online for your single player game then LMAO hopefully you dont lose your character to server crash or dc. OH WAIT you're a softcore casual. nvm
doesn't invalidate you at all. YOU MATTER! blizz sells millions of copies to normies like you. they balance and design around trash like you. YOU MATTER LITTLE SNOWFLAKE. continue to ignore the other issues that were brought up too. you dont care right? clean up the blizz daddy's cum around your mouth
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well, I have 54 kids and 28 jobs. The average person doesn't play games for 100 hours so expecting companies to balance games around that is asinine.
11 months ago
Anonymous
asinine is too big a word for dimwit blizzdrone like you. good luck on level 100 tho ROFL
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're just mad because you're a turd worlder that is too poor to experience the best ARPG released during the last 20 years.
>Diablo 2 Resurrected is amazing
kek he doesnt know >tcp/ip >nham
imagine paying blizzard for upgraded textures when project diablo 2 has 60 fps widescreen support without removed features
>banned for dueling
oh sure, let me look up the rule that bans dueling KEK >twitch mod
projecting much? hahahhaa stay mad u got caught for duping or some shitty exploit ur too bad at covering up
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you hostile random people, you get an immediate ban if they report you. Stop being disingenuous because you want random idiots to play your dead mod.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i dont care for the mod. u inserted urself in the conversation when i compared it to D2R with removed features and unfixed bugs that a mod has fix/workarounds for. go back to sucking rod fergusons dick lil bro
It's garbage aimed at normalhomosexuals who play 3 hours a week and never push for anything endgame-related so why even bother designing an endgame. Not worth $7 let alone $70.
Yeah no, d4 is okay at best if you're a normalgay. The story was dogshit but after d3 i wasn't expecting any better and the gameplay is passable and it feels more like d2, endgame is d3 all over again. The game is as mid as it gets.
Its pretty and it feels more like d2 specially while going through the campaign which all a normalhomosexual will ever experience, enough for coomsoomers. Game is in fact MID.
>Diablo 2 Resurrected is amazing
What is the point of this game? You run through the same levels 3 times and then you teleport through the entire content to kill a boss that does nothing so that you can teleport to the boss and kill him slightly faster the next time. Did I miss something? I mean the game must've been great 20 years ago but now it's outdated.
I'm doing my first playthrough as an oldschool whirlwind barbarian, like my first character in Diablo 2 was when I was like 12. I'm having a blast, close to finishing the campaign.
Will make a sorcerer next.
Based, I was also WW Barb. Sucked 30-45 but once I got T3 and some okay gear I started shredding with good Fury regen. I might make Druid or Trap Rogue next. Heard Sorc is in a tough spot and CL sucked so I don't know about playing her anytime soon.
Good decision, don't play Sorc. Even if the builds we have were good deep into endgame, they still all revolve around Frost Nova as our only reliable source of Vuln. Making the exploit glyph not apply vuln for Sorc and Necro is a fricking bizarre decision.
I use a Sorc, mostly lightning, but still roll with Frost Nova. Lightning Spear is a better source of stun/vuln/freeze procs. The tracking is ridiculous and does a good job at knocking out the entire battlefield. I Frost Nova just to control space and get a few extra bits of damage in while waiting on another Lightning Spear or Unstable Currents. What is awful about Sorc is that you pretty much need Nova and Teleport hot keyed, which leaves you to drop one of your other attack types.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you enchant ice shards you delete the screen with frost nova.
You can apply vuln with literally every single cast of ice shards moron
Don't tell me you're taking the barrier acts as frozen talent
Your aoe should already be fricking insane
I've been playing all the D2 mods and they don't even hold a candle to D2R or D4. Most people are really really stupid in the world and this just proves it. Anyone with a higher IQ wouldn't be responding with "you fell for it" that's some low IQ basement logic only found in the depths of pedophile discord channels.
>I spent 10 years shitting on Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2, so I don't hesitate to call Blizzard out when they are trash, but D2R and D4 are solid.
Why do people buy games they think are gonna be shit? I'm not gonna buy Cyberpunk 2077 cause I think the game's shit. Maybe if it comes out on sale I'll get it to check out, but not when it's 60+ >inb4 pirate
Even when I do, again, I'm not gonna pirate a shit game. Why when I have a thousand games, will I get a shit one?
>Why do people buy games they think are gonna be shit? I'm not gonna buy Cyberpunk 2077 cause I think the game's shit.
Because they're supposed to be good! They're supposed to be GOOD! THEY ARE GOOD. You're just a fricktard
I have extremely little faith in Blizzard, after seeing thread and thread, article and article, and testimonies of anons and IRL people say the game is shit. And the few people I do know who played Overwatch a lot, are people I don't respect, and thus, use them as an anti-recommendation
Diablo 4 is 70 dollars, I have 3 decades of ARPG games to play (and a bunch of other games too), why would I spend 70 dollars on a game I think is shit? Now, in 5 years, if it's the price of a sandwich, I might get it. But that's for a gamble.
And I trust Ganker cause this is my home. If it's literally any non-popular game, I follow an anon's recommendations and I never got disappointed. Some guy said to me "hey, I wanna discuss Ghostrunners", I got it for the price of a sub, and it's my GOTY of 2020. He didn't even say anything except that there's this game called Ghostrunners.
>more customization/content
This can be explained by the fact you first played the game when it had already been released for 5 years. It doesn't make it a better game. >more variety in locales*
The locales in Lost Ark are utter shit, cookie cutter pirate/mecha/medieval/literally Gulliver's Island setting. Diablo isn't that good, but it is at least consistent and logical. I can't see how this is a positive for Lost Ark.
the best part about la was every island was its own little thing. Consistency is another word for boring.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Consistency is important when building a world, it's fine to like the saturday morning cartoon style of arpg storytelling but don't pretend that it's the only exciting possible method
>better combat >better and more customization >more and better classes >incredibly amazing raids >decent story with some good characters heroes and villains >cool events like islands n shit full of minigames >hard to get into but great and skilled pvp >a lot of collectibles if you like that stuff
the only real shit problem about lost ark is how to gear up/accesibility and how its linked to real money or a lot and i mean a lot of free time and thats why everyone in the west left that game
This is why every KMMO fails in the west. They need to have better upgrade rates and fundamentally different monetization to be successful, but no localizer seems to have the balls to completely throw out the Kslop progression and implement something sensible.
trying to fit in too hard. Nobody sees what you play anon...
11 months ago
Anonymous
What? I don't like weeb artstyle, it has nothing to do with other people. I was recommended FF14 so many times and I can't do it either because it just looks awful to me.
11 months ago
Anonymous
who defined weeb artstyle and weeb bad? Other people.
As for ff14 i could understand not liking ff14 for gameplay, its early lvls are mmo typical especially mindnumbing boring and i hated that myself but i will never get artstyle issues.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>who defined weeb artstyle and weeb bad? Other people.
I am the other people. I don't like weeb artstyle. Do you get your opinions from other people that this is such an alien concept to you?
11 months ago
Anonymous
No as mentioned i dont let other people dictate what i should like. I dont care about the art style because a game is about gameplay. Good gameplay with kid graphics is better than trash gameplay with grimdark graphics trying to appear adult.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Good gameplay with kid graphics is better than trash gameplay with grimdark graphics trying to appear adult.
I can play a mediocre gameplay game if the artstyle and story is good. I cannot play the best gameplay if the artstyle is shit. I like Witcher 3 but the gameplay (combat) is nothing to write home about.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The rational conclusion to that is watch movies.
Best visuals. Or watch movie versions of games. Why would you play trash gameplay if you dont care about it anyway.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't say trash. I said mediocre. I care about gameplay. But I care about visuals.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Still, i rather watch than grind myself. If the gameplay isnt fun why waste your time on it?
Like i watched uncharted finish cause i got bored of it midgame but wanted to see story to end.
I'd say it was 7/10, but I rolled sorc so it's 6/10 for some of the worst balancing I've seen on AAA game. How can you have a class do literally 1/5th the damage of all the others while also being the squishiest? Even the Black folk got a better compromise with 3/5ths. Genuine moronation.
I’m actually enjoying the game a lot
But the idea that I have to reveal the map and do renown again with seasons genuinely just kills all desire I have to play
Actually, it was because all of my friends were buying it. It isn't even a good co-op game, everything dies in half a second.
I'll never understand this genre.
Very funny watching people spend all day on here and /vg/ seething about the game
It's like they noticed it was popular and well received and the contrarian switch immediately flicked on in their head
This. It's actually insane how much seethe this game causes. Ganker just can't handle the fact that Blizzard released an amazing game. Playing Diablo 4 just makes me realize how terrible shit like Diablo 2 is.
This. It's actually insane how much seethe this game causes. Ganker just can't handle the fact that Blizzard released an amazing game. Playing Diablo 4 just makes me realize how terrible shit like Diablo 2 is.
Nice picture of yourself, turd worlder. Keep seething because you're too poor to play D4. It's so obvious that the people b***hing about it haven't even played it.
Nice picture of yourself, turd worlder. Keep seething because you're too poor to play D4. It's so obvious that the people b***hing about it haven't even played it.
Yeah I can confirm this anon is from some shithole country.
Just went to bed and he’s still posting this as a reply to people in d4 threads.
Well, frick it, first thing I'm gonna do after I press "Post" is to make a coffee and log in to play this "shitty" Diablo for ~5-6 hours how bad it is.
And, no, no amount of hype could convince me to play a bad game 5-6 hours daily, no one is that stupid.
On the other hand, yes, to play this game you have to have access to time and money(one is the same) so I do get why some people are pissed.
Look, if ARPGs are not your thing, I'ts ok, I usually hate Blizz games(played old Warcraft and Starcraft, hated WOW, hated vanilla D2&D3, they cater to lowest common denominator and take all the good ideas, dumb them down, hide it behind shitload of polish.
Now they make risks and actually add something new to the table(even if most of it is rehash of old ideas again, there are some new concepts, at the end of the day, they invented ARPGs so they can do with it what they want, it's their ass on the line).
My point being, this is objectively good game and if you are not into it, nothing will convince you otherwise, but don't look at 3 YouTube opinions of some crazed minmax who do this for the living and they finished everything back in beta and now cry they have nothing to do.
I'm on my first character, lvl.52, still didn't finish campaign, people literally destroy their playtrough because they play some meta game where they have to be first and can't see forest from a tree.
I've been using a PS5 controller about half my playtime. I'm using skills that chain off of enemies so aiming isn't very important. A controller during the bullet hell segments works really well. I really wish Keyboard had WASD movement.
Gameplay's alright. Leveling-wise, I had much more fun with how Last Epoch presented the skill trees. D4's skill sticks leave a lot to be desired.
For how much D4 is price tagged at though, it's trash on top of having a scummy-priced MTX shop. The game needs one more year and an expansion with a Paladin-type class to be worth it with a lot of QOL and features reworked/added.
the entire game got rebalanced into trivial difficulty after RoS patch dropped. the enemies cant even do enough damage to kill if you have enough life regen. Its a complete husk of what it used to be on launch.
As a dad™ I feel the time has come to explain to the virgins on this sub who this game is for : dads. To understand why D4 is a game for dads, and exclusively for dads, you need to understand who dads are :
First of all, by definition, dads are sex-havers. At least once in any case. Many of you won't understand, but once the P goes in the V your interest in endgame mob density is severely reduced.
Second, dads are rich. Dads spend most of their time working, which is why most have only made it half way through caracter creation. Also, kids are very cheap, seeing they eat much less than fully grown humans. This means dads have a LOT of disposable income. So you can understand dads do not care about spending 30$ to play a few days earlier or 25$ for a little wolf hat. This also signals your dad status to other dads.
Thirdly, dads profoundly dislike their spouses and argue with them all the time. Most of them are actually separated (although in a few rare cases they can be in a stable relationship a cool gamer wife / fellow sex-haver). Now what is the theme of D4? Pursuing and killing a mother who got in a disagreement with a dad. We could not relate more.
Finally, dads are nostalgic. They yearn for a time where video games were about having fun, not excel spreadsheets. They don't care that the sorcerer meta is very limited. They are just happy to be casting little bolts of lightning. Unlike you, most of them are not on Adderall and can tolerate a 10 second cooldown.
So in conclusion, please stop with all the dads vs no-lifers endless debates. This game was clearly made for dads. We have so little left, please let us have this one game.
Edit : seeing all the messages from fellow dads™ who are touching grass and tapping ass really warms my heart. The min/maxing nerds must really feel small this morning.
Dad games™
We are such starved part of this market, no one caters for us anymore.
I have to use beefy laptop(shit's would be expensive for kids price=/=performance ratio and you have to buy another one every 2 years).
For me, dad games are as follows:
no Arcanum 2, no real Fallout 3, no real Morrowind 2, no real Planescape 2,
no real BG3, no more intricate point'n'click LucasArts adventures with real humor and mature story, no more complex puzzles to solve, no interesting story to read in my CRPGs.
In last 15 years we got(and, I respect tastes of fellow dads, please, contribute your list, maybe there is something I missed):in no particular order:
The Witcher trilogy(don't want to enter discussion about what past is the best, they all are good on their own way)
System Shock Remake
Diablo 4
RDR2
Fallout Vegas
Civilization(insert number you like)
I would write Disco Elysium but those pink haired monstrosities who think they discovered socialism and the fact that world is not fair took that so I'm ashamed to admit it was a good one,
Liked FF7 when I was kid, FF7 RE is for kids, they got me there.
Will enjoy Broken Roads if time will alow me, same goes for Starfield(on the fence of this one,aint no spaceman).
Dads, please write your lists, maybe there is something interesting I missed?(don't like sports and racing, I respect it, just not personal preference).
Why if I like it, it's not competition for me, there is no better or worse.
It's how much I like it in a moment.
When it ceases to be entertaining I'll drop it, let it be and come back to it when I got an itch.
Don't you get it, those "10/10"," AAA+" bullshit buzzwords are created by marketing teams, not devs.
Play what you like as much as you like it, mute Reviews on YouTube if you are not sure, don't fall for fancy CGI, don't preorder, stay in your lane(if you like strategy and hate racing, there is no amount of strategy forced into racing that will make you like it).
Look, I came here for a second until my coffee is done and meant to play D4, saw that some people somehow don't like D4 and only reason I see is they either didn't play it or it's not their cup of tea, but why ruin it for 99% of us who like it, play little side quests, then main story, don't look into "how to come to 100 lvl in 8 seconds" or" best endgame build, can clean Hell like hooker your wallet" shit on YouTube..
And I lost couple of hours, and I could play D4, on little free time I had...
> Also, kids are very cheap, seeing they eat much less than fully grown humans.
larping idiot
you constantly got to buy new clothes cause they growing and fund hobbies and other disposable crap.
>you constantly got to buy new clothes cause they growing
you get clothes from passed down from people in your family and then, of course, the bonus grandma knitted clothes. this is assuming you have a normal family which 95% of Gankerirgins obviously don't have
>Now what is the theme of D4? Pursuing and killing a mother who got in a disagreement with a dad. We could not relate more.
But Lilith physically and metaphorically castrates Incelnarius and takes all the money and the house, how is this a dad-approved message?
Any game is a dad game to you. Everything you said doesn't really matter. A dad will play anything. The only reason you got this game is because the marketing hit you.
i have to admit im really butthurt i cant refund it.
i finished the single player campaign once, and i never want to play it ever again.
i honestly didnt have fun for even 5 minutes throughout the whole playthrough.
everything in D4 is designed to be anti-fun, boring, or just waste my time. >i hate the boring, lame-ass, "generator generator generator spender" gimmick. I hate it. its anti-fun bullshit. >i hate the level scaling >i hate the itemisation >i hate the skill "tree". Its more like a skill twig. A few spells per class, with 2-3 +dmg perks. What the frick is this shit. >i hate the lack of music >i hate that there is a "communist-russia grey" filter put over the whole game. I just cant look at it for longer than 5 minutes without falling asleep.
i could go on and on and on, but i just want to even talk about this shit game anymore.
>Spamming Ganker with your repetitive seethe won't refund your money.
but it makes me feel better and my butthurt is smaller.
just block me, because i wont ever stop seething about D4.
>i hate that there is a "communist-russia grey" filter put over the whole game. I just cant look at it for longer than 5 minutes without falling asleep.
Wish someone could make a mod to remove the color grading.
>Wish someone could make a mod to remove the color grading.
that would be like putting a band-aid on an axe wound.
game is just ugly as shit, especially the entire open world.
the only place that didnt look like trash was this 1 dungeon with spider legs coming out of the walls.
The minimum requirement is just that the colors arent identical.
If its all same color value you cant separate it but if its even 0.4999 vs 0.5 you can exagerate it to 0. and 1.
>10 hours before quitting
pretty incredible, really - i saw everything the entire game had to offer during the beta.
you get all the spells after like 2-3 hours, lol.
>what does diablo 2 have that makes it so good and enjoyable compared to 3 and 4?
easy. >D2 has music >no cooldowns >looks fantastic, great art direction >set items >runes >can allocate stat points
at least u didn't fall for >warcraft 3 reforged >diablo 3 >diablo immortal >diablo 2 resurrected
before this. good job OP
What is the problem with these games? I haven't played any of them so I really don't know.
>I fell for it
how??? you knew full well for the past 10 years that d3 was shit and all blizzard cares about is perpetual monetization.
Why was 3 a shit? I'm not denying just sincerely asking, I mean from what you say it makes it sound like previously the franchise was good, does that mean 2 and 1 were better? In that case why was 3 bad in comparison?
Also what is the problem with monetization? Isn't it the quality of the game that matters regardless? How would blizard caring only about monetization hurt the quality of the game? Shouldn't they try to make better games to profit more from it?
>Also what is the problem with monetization? Isn't it the quality of the game that matters regardless? How would blizard caring only about monetization hurt the quality of the game? Shouldn't they try to make better games to profit more from it? >Still me
I mean from a logical point of view if they make bad games it should actually decrease their profits so if they care so much about profits then shouldn't they try to make better games for it?
>What is the problem with these games? I haven't played any of them so I really don't know. >warcraft 3 reforged
Made the original version basically inaccessible through legal means and broke an incredible amount of custom maps (and for the longest time, Rexxar's campaign) for one of the worst graphical "upgrades" in the history of remasters. >diablo 3
Made specifically for argentinian gold farmers at release with auction house being the main focus of every other game mechanic, has an awful, infantile story with moronic retcons and uncharacteristically terrible voice acting, simplified gameplay and itemization to cookie clicker levels. >diablo immortal
come on now >diablo 2 resurrected
Not much wrong with it to be honest, the classic graphics mode is fricky but at least they didn't remove the original from the face of the earth and afaik you can still even play it on bnet. Remastered graphics and cinematics seem kinda lacking to me but they're not terrible unlike reforged.
3 >>Made specifically for argentinian gold farmers at release with auction house being the main focus of every other game mechanic, has an awful, infantile story with moronic retcons and uncharacteristically terrible voice acting, simplified gameplay and itemization to cookie clicker levels.
This was actually somewhat helpful since my first real time with Diablo was D3 Reaper of Souls on PS3. I really enjoyed it. If D4 is at least similar, let alone even more complicated, I think I will really enjoy D4.
I always meant to go back and do another D3 play-through but I just never did for some reason.
I'm having a decent time.
I think D3 was more fun in terms of progression but I guess I'll see how endgame plays out
I just love building characters in games based on items I get
40K Inquisitor, without a doubt, was not good at release, is now.
God damn, I hate how poor kids want to make new Tortanic from Diablo4 and game is really solid, but they destroyed their enjoyment by rushing the end game.
Savor that shit, play some sidequests.
Play Diablo Immortal on your pocket PCs, that's for you. Hey, it's free and you just press a button and it takes you to another "fight bigger than life" spot.
Endgame is called endgame for a reason.
>Still me
Is the game Very bad or something?
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What is the problem with these games? I haven't played any of them so I really don't know.
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Why was 3 a shit? I'm not denying just sincerely asking, I mean from what you say it makes it sound like previously the franchise was good, does that mean 2 and 1 were better? In that case why was 3 bad in comparison?
Also what is the problem with monetization? Isn't it the quality of the game that matters regardless? How would blizard caring only about monetization hurt the quality of the game? Shouldn't they try to make better games to profit more from it?
3 was shit because Disney graphics and RMAH, I got rid of it, but they say that with all those addons game became good, didn't try it so I don't know.
Who knows what will Diablo 4 be like in 10 years, then everyone will shit on 5 and reinstall 4, eating 'memberberries how good it was and how true to the form it was, just like 2...
Why do morons not understand that a game with no MTX gets different kinds of updates than a live service game? Diablo 4 isn't going to magically fix itself in 5 years.
Oh, yes it is, I think you don't get it.
Last Epoch,POE2,WH 40K Inquisitor,that Spartan stuff, Grim Dawn2,Wolcen, shit I don't even know about.
Blizz lost their "word of mouth" long time ago, they'll have to double down to stay relevant,
forget MTX, it's their ass on the line...
Long gone are the days where people paid 10$ monthly just so they can enjoy their games on their battle.net....
They will release so much content for free just to stay out of the bargain bin, let alone pricing 99.99 for Ultimate Ultra edition+MTX...
People don't buy that shit anymore, competition is strong and real.
From that list, only PoE 2 and Last Epoch have a chance of actually making a dent in anything, and still they made more money from the launch than Last Epoch will make in its entire life span.
I actually do expect those games to chip away at D4 though. Merchant's Guild/Circle of Fortune from Last Epoch already sound more interesting than anything we know of that's upcoming in D4, and PoE's Atlas and league mechanic progression in general will take years for D4 to match.
Have you not seen what they've done to WoW and Overwatch?
You're mental if you think several teams working on bite sized content due our every three months can turn a game around the way a dedicated team working on an expansion for two years can. May as well have said
>Guys, Avengers is going to be so good, just give it time!
yep me too
actually a perfect game when I don't feel playing anything but don't want to go outside or do something else
lost my 54 character due to oneshot CC bs and leveling another one
I'm actually having a good time, not a 70$ good, but considering this shit is going to run next 5 years for sure sign me the frick up
How new are you? No seriously, I'm not talking about 4chin specifically, how fricking new are you? Don't you still understand that the average Blizzard player has the mentality of a cuckold? They love being sold ideas instead of products, they love paying the price of a full game for a cosmetic, they love paying months of a first world country's salaries for items with minimal drop chances. Did you see what Blizzard released the last 10 years and said: Hmm these look like a bunch of nice devs that no one is angry against them, I will support them, I will buy their overpriced average game. For anyone with an IQ higher than the current room temperature, anyone who still defends Blizzard is unironically a paid shill, and if you still fall for their lies, you deserve to be part of their target audience.
D4 was a massive fomo trap for gays and hit at the perfect time where all games are total shit to play. Blizzard wins again, im sure once these gays are done playing it they will resub to WoW for heckin hardcore classic!
I won't laugh at you Anon because I almost fell for it. Here's the funny thing, I tried both betas and absolutely disliked it and I know the game isn't for me however I haven't bought a single game since deep rock galactic during last christmas steam sale. Then I have several friends who started playing it and asked me to play with them. 70$ is nothing to me, it's a fricking bottle of decent scotch, I'm an oldgay and have disposable income so when it only takes one click to buy something it takes some self control.
It's not always easy to have, that's why gacha games rack so much money and this fricking industry is riddled with MTX everywhere.
Just remember to ask yourself if you really need or want something before spending money or if you're just making a dumb impulsive decision.
>I won't laugh at you Anon because I almost fell for it. Here's the funny thing, I tried both betas and absolutely disliked it and I know the game isn't for me however
Fricking this. I've not only tried both public betas but I was also able to play the end game beta back in October and hated every minute with this game. However, Blizzard's insane FOMO advertising couple with peer pressure also makes me want to buy it and give it yet another shot. Almost.
i canceled my pre-order after playing the beta.
ive never been so bored out of my mind playing a slasher game.
i simply didnt have fun at all.
not even for a minute.
i pity the people who think this is good, in any way. >like 5 spells per class >graphics worse than D2R >no music >"i need 5 turds from monsters X" secondary quests >every single fricking spell is on a 10 hour cooldown
this is Lost Ark for 70-100$ with an additional 10-15$ season pass, depending if you want the standard or the super-goy season pass edition.
Honestly, I think I could have some fun with this if I was playing with friends but then again, any piece of crap can be enjoyable when you're slaying with a group of dudes. I suspect people that swear by this game haven't tried doing it solo for any length of time.
>any piece of crap can be enjoyable when you're slaying with a group of dudes.
So much this. The reality is you dont need any new game. You can play whatever if its with friends. The problem is merely the trend chasing guys in your group trying to have everyone hop on latest fad with them.
blizzard has made a scientific/biological phenomenon with D4 - they actually created a game that makes people doze off and fall asleep.
im not shitting you - check the reviews. >every single negative review has 1 thing in common: >"i was falling asleep while playing, what the hell?"
i figured it out.
i also was falling asleep after 10-15 minutes of playing the beta.
i just stopped for a minute, and then it hit me. >the grey filters, the flute and violin in the background
these are literally thing a doctor will tell you to look at and listen to, to fall asleep.
its fricking amazing how absolutely hard blizzard fricked this up.
THEY MADE A SLEEP INDUCING GAME BY ACCIDENT, AND DONT EVEN REALIZE THIS.
I know right. You know the game is shit. You know it's fomo. You know you don't like it. You know that at the absolute best it'll get better in a few years of patches and dlcs and seasons but it still won't be great. Still you end up asking yourself "oh frick it why not?"
Its more about do you wanna reward bad behavior? I always think i rather burn money on gacha that give blizz said money. This changes the choice from can you afford it to where do i better put the $70 in?
Don't get me wrong, I hate what Western developpers have become these days and I haven't given money to any of the AAA studios in the past 3 years but gambling for a character/.jpg is hardly good behaviour either.
Its more about do you wanna reward bad behavior? I always think i rather burn money on gacha that give blizz said money. This changes the choice from can you afford it to where do i better put the $70 in?
uhh.... guys....
im playing it right now, and there's no music in the game?
im running around in total silence, sometime i hear a flute for like 1-3 seconds, and thats it.
i got to world tier 4 after 30 something hours and there is just nothing to fricking do
i unlocked all waypoints, finished all strongholds, discovered entire map
and there is just frickall to do, realistically the only content i can do is run nightmare dungeons over and over, thats it, thats all there is to the game now
I can run nightmare dungeons with increasingly higher tiers and find items with higher item power level, thats it
Its not like I spend my life savings on it or anything but I wish i could just refund it out of spite
d4 hasnt even started yet, their live service starts in like a month. nothing to judge yet. unless you are trying to claim seeing cutscenes means you've "beaten" the game lol
>teleport >1 hour cooldown >flame shield, its active 2 seconds >it has 90 hours cooldown >frost nova >50 hour cooldown
hey diablo 4.
can you FRICK OFF and let me have fun? >no
uninstall it is, then.
ill just start up D2R and zip around with 0 cooldown teleport and spam 9000 motherfricking lightning novas (doesnt even exist in D4) because its FRICKING FUN.
>lightning novas (doesnt even exist in D4)
It literally does >waaah my abilities have cooldowns now in this new videogame
You have to grind out armor and passives that reduce them, that's always been the whole deal.
>people hated diablo 3 for introducing moronic ass cooldowns to fricking everything, WoW style >Diablo 4 doubled down on the cooldowns >see, its ok, to make the game playable and fun, you only have to focus on and grind for every single piece of equipment that reduces the "no fun allowed", oops sorry, the "cooldown" meter.
>make cooldown worse than 3 >make uniques and legendaries that bring the cooldowns down to default diablo 3 levels >everyone is ok with it
they literally used foot in the door sales tactics on in game skills and it worked. i applaud how evil blizzard is.
i bought a $500 dota courier at one point... in my 20s.. I spent half that last friday getting my dirty butthole licked out by a 10/10 korean calling me oppa. Really puts things into perspective
Emilio is the only correct choice, and you just outed yourself as a casual for not rerolling. You have forever forfeited any gamer cred you ever had the potential of getting.
Not even shitposting, I bought the early access version, have been playing semi-regularly since, often many hours a day. I'm level 57, haven't finished the campaign yet. But found almost all altars, doing side quests all day which are surprisingly fun.
It doesn't bother or concern me that no life hardcore people are already bored. Season is coming soon, I have no clue what is there to doom and gloom about.
I'm not bullshitting, I'm just doing all the side quests that I come across and try to fully explore and get the altars before moving on to the next.
I'm suspecting that people are skipping the sidequests or something if they are already done with the campaign, or literally nolifing this shit, because I don't understand how you can finish the campaign in 12h if you don't literally just beeline the campaign and ignore everything else.
you do you and its all good to explore the world at your own pace and whatnot. but items are capped at lvl 50 in wt2 and you don't advance to wt3 until you finish the campaign. So best to beeline the campaign and do all the sideshit after that.
I explored the whole map, did every sidequest I could find and ended up finishing the story at your level. Like 55-6. I also spent some time testing out theories on the mechanics so I probably ended the game a little high in level. The game assumes you'll end the game at 40 or so though. Also just letting you know, if you are still exploring, don't. World tier 3 events will get you exploring and while you are in WT1/2 you are exploring a field of nothing. If you are doing dungeons for aspects, don't. Wait til WT3 and do the ones the Tree wants you to do.
I can't do the quests man. They are so poorly written and the gameplay is follow this dude, open these boxes, go across the map and pick this and return it. I can't deal with it. Why can't I just farm the renown through dungeons?
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AAA games have gotten worse but AA/indies have gotten better and the good ones are more plentiful.
>You make a $600m game you dont wanna risk 600m so you make safe zero innovation games. The fun stuff is found in AA not AAA >AAA games have gotten worse but AA/indies have gotten better and the good ones are more plentiful.
What are AAA, AA and AA/Indies games?
AAA, AA, its just budget range term
there is no official lawyer definition of this but roughly if you spend 100m+ you are certainly AAA
while AA are closer around 20m and indies fall sub 5m.
Originally gaming copied the bond credit rating system where AAA refers to best safety trying to win investors as they went big budget and then the term stuck as classification for size.
This sentiment is a hundred times more jaded and bitter than the most dissatisfied posts on this board, the only appropriate reaction to it is pity. No, games are not anywhere near as good as they were from roughly 1995-2005 and the occasional good title can't make up for that.
Its you. Get a life. You cant do the same thing every day for your whole life and contain the same passion and enjoyment all the way through. Diversify. Im 27 and have been gaming since i was 3. Still love it and can look forward to new games.
One thing that is undeniable, is that theres more shit to filter through now, buts thats more of a quantity issue.
I have not played any game for more than 5 years by now, maybe even 10.
That was the impression I got from the final games I played which I had only played after a while without playing and that was after a while with the games losing any fun they had, there was no enjoyment in them at all, I didn't get anything to look forward to in games then and still don't now. Maybe that was for the best though.
I put around 300 hours into D3 RoS and it was pretty fun so I can't comment on how bad it was. I recently got D2R and have been having a blast too bad it doesn't have a proper endgame but the latest update provided a new viable build after 20+ years though.
i’m tired of laughing at subhuman morons like you who keep propping up this dogshit industry by paying them your hard earned money for predatory, exploitative garbage like this. i’m just tired of you at this point. have a nice day
This is the only game that I know of that is actual "it gets good after 60 hours" because you finally unlock tier 4 and can do challenging content when you run nightmare dungeon 10+ levels above you. But holy shit the story and the side quests are awful.
>can do challenging content
But the game gets easier when you first get into WT4 since you get access to the gear that your class was clearly designed around. Then it gets harder again when the fricked up armor scaling starts kicks in.
It doesn't get easier if you decide to do nightmares 10+ levels above yours. If you ask me what is the point since +3 is the best for leveling, I don't play it to level up. I play it to have challenge.
>can do challenging content
But the game gets easier when you first get into WT4 since you get access to the gear that your class was clearly designed around. Then it gets harder again when the fricked up armor scaling starts kicks in.
Im level 62 and the game is absolutely fricking unfun dogshit. POE is miles ahead where you can actually progress and get insanely powerful and smash shit. Here I just feel like im never gaining anything im just using ice shards and frost nova from level one. The build variet is fricking trash. There are like 3 builds max on each class and only 1 is good out of those. After the story ends the game is so fricking stale and unfun, they nerfed item drop and xp gain. I would start a second class already but im stuck grinding 1 hour for a level and i dont even feel like qnything changes. Dropped til blizzard fixes end game.
It's a MMO. You're supposed to grind your ass off for the smallest gains possible or pay your way with the battlepass but that's not implemented yet. People that think it isn't going to be filled with exp and magic find boosts out the wazoo are delusional.
Same here as a 62 Sorc. Just grinding away on Nighmare activities. The difficulty has stayed the same constantly. No fun period after getting a major power boost, everything just seems to keep up with you. I also have yet to see a Unique drop, which is fricking awful because the game has been advertising them to me since level 1 and I still only have the ring from Lilith.
>buyer's remorse
You poorgays keep saying the same thing. Oh noes. I spent $100! That's no money! I understand if it takes you 8 months of saving up your GBP, but this is a couple of hours work. I have no remorse for the money I've spent like I have none for the ants I step on.
>like I have none for the ants I step on.
I'm the any who will step on you through plagues and geat waves until you die and grovel in pain and misery and announce me Lord
>like I have none for the ants I step on.
I'm the any who will step on you through plagues and geat waves until you die and grovel in pain and misery and announce me Lord
To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.
I learned my lesson to never ever give money, or my time again in Blizzard. Meanwhile you are here flaunting your corporate battlenet account with only 1 contact in your friends list, your supervisor as if that's gonna prove you are not a shill, lmao. You can have a nice day tomorrow and no one will miss you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't use social features in games. That's my brother, who I help out when he gets stuck. I'm 42 and too old for social media shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>no friends >diablo only
looks organic lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
See
I don't use social features in games. That's my brother, who I help out when he gets stuck. I'm 42 and too old for social media shit.
And what Blizzard game was ever worth playing outside of the Diablo series? Hint: none.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No starcraft? No overwatch? I don't play those games but they are really popular. Since it is activision-blizzard no, warzone? That's fun even if I rarely touch it now. I mainly just resent having to have multiple launchers on PC.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Blizzard is known for making mediocre entries in established genres, letting normies flock to it, and destroying the genre. No more heroes-based FPSes due to Overwatch. No more MMOs due to WoW. No more RTS due to *craft. The exception is Diablo, where they captured lightning in a bottle with 2, dropped the ball completely with 3, and seem to have a direction with 4 that's pretty good so far.
11 months ago
Anonymous
My ass. Diablo 3's been great for years now and D4 is undoing the goodwill from the D3 course correction.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Diablo 3 was a chore. I just started playing it in December, and Torment is ungodly boring. But I get to do it over and over so I can unlock maybe some difficulty!
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, you're also describing Diablo 2.
11 months ago
Anonymous
d3 will never be good simply because of the cain death "scene"
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Oh no my heckin meme man.
What a dumb thing to get hung up on in a series with terrible writing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>defending this design
11 months ago
Anonymous
Did they say what happened to the d3 protags?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The barbarian got a job as a mall Santa.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just Crusader/Johanna who gets killed by Lilith brained bandits and succeeded by her girlfriend who inherits her name and then the scoundrel follower runs a town.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>all powerful nephilim gets got by some bandits
lol?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Devils look WEIRD that's GAY
Yeah, I'll defend the weird demon fae looking like a weird fairy.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I miss my weird Sean Connery/Jimmy Stewart hybrid.
But Diablo 2 is a shit game. It was good when it came out because there was nothing better. D4 is miles ahead of D2. D2 has no content. You are literally farming a shit mob with unique skin named Baal or Andariel over and over so you can farm them faster. That is the content. D4 has dungeons with proper mechanics and uber Lilith also has actual mechanics unlike D2 uber boss pinnacle mechanic is to switch to a bow and hit him once with it so he doesn't selfheal as you punch him down.
The content in D2 is limited in the quest/dungeon aspect, but the loot aspect is top notch, which is where D4 is lacking (but it can get better). Diablo games (if 1 and 2 are any indication) aren't really meant for the cutscene-loving quest heavy RPG crowd, but the autistically dedicated loot hunters. It's meant to be technical. When you start weighing it down with heavy story (which I admit D4 has problems with) and all this questing, you take away from the core.
Anon, you're also describing Diablo 2.
It's not as bad as 3 with, what, 6 difficulty levels where it's functionally impossible to die. Also, 3 is painful to look at. It's like Jackson Pollock shit on my screen.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>but the loot aspect is top notch
The idea is cool but the execution is not. You will never see ber or whatever in your life. Things like enigma should be deleted from the game or the teleport should be given a cooldown. But it doesn't matter anyway, the loot system could be the best thing ever but there is no content to use it on. By the time you start building anything cool you don't need it anymore. I beat Baal in 40 seconds. No I beat him in 20 seconds. I beat him in 3 seconds. Okay, whatever. Give me an actual content, one that people don't want to just teleport through to punch a loot pinata at the end, and then we can talk. The game has cool mechanics but they are wasted on no content. Beat the campaign 3 times but this time you need elemental resists and elemental pierce and watch for the enchanted that blow up. Wow, so amazing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Again, it's not for people who want new monsters and shit. It's for people who want bigger numbers. It's a min/max game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>6 difficulty levels where it's functionally impossible to die.
Someone doesn't play Seasonal Hardcore.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But Diablo 2 is a shit game. It was good when it came out because there was nothing better. D4 is miles ahead of D2. D2 has no content. You are literally farming a shit mob with unique skin named Baal or Andariel over and over so you can farm them faster. That is the content. D4 has dungeons with proper mechanics and uber Lilith also has actual mechanics unlike D2 uber boss pinnacle mechanic is to switch to a bow and hit him once with it so he doesn't selfheal as you punch him down.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Starcraft was a pretty good RTS 25 years ago. Warcraft 3 was a really good RTS 20 years ago. Starcraft 2 was a decent RTS 13 years ago. Overwatch is a bad TF2 clone.
Frick no, the whole issue would be resolved by shedding the whole imprinting mechanic and allowing an imprinted aspect to be extracted as many times as needed.
Extracting infinitely or enchanting it from codex infinitely is the same thing but the 2nd option is better because there is no way to accidentally lose the affix.
It's different because if you imprint something on the codex then it is available on all characters, meaning that you're effectively levelling up the codex with your suggestion. This game does not need an additional meta progression system.
>This game does not need an additional meta progression system.
I would say it does because from 60 onward I have nothing to look for except maybe paragon but paragon is just tedious slow grind too. This would alleviate some of it by having multiple systems you level at the same time. And your idea is no different because I can just imprint the gear and pick it up with my alt anyway so it doesn't matter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>from 60 onward I have nothing to look for except maybe paragon
So then every other character you get to level 60 can automatically have their aspects maxed out? This would not create more of a grind after 60, but less of one. >your idea is no different because I can just imprint the gear and pick it up with my alt anyway
Once they're in the same level bracket, and assuming that the aspect you imprinted is eligible for their class. If you put it straight to codex you have access to super powerful legendaries at level 1. It's not the same thing at all lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
>So then every other character you get to level 60 can automatically have their aspects maxed out?
I can count with my fingers how many times I had a perfect affix drop. Maybe twice? And it drops for my class so it's not like I can level up my alt codex powers. >If you put it straight to codex you have access to super powerful legendaries at level 1.
Your idea allows for this too but why does it even matter anyway? Are you going to have an alt of the same class? Because the affixes you drop are for the active class you play. If so, why would it be a problem? You already beat the game as necromancer dude, you should be given the choice to play a necromancer alt with the best version of the necromancer affixes, yes. You have to still drop good loot and enchant it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>perfect affix drop
I'm not saying it will literally be perfect, but it would be significantly better than what is allowed at base. >And it drops for my class so it's not like I can level up my alt codex powers >Are you going to have an alt of the same class? >Affixes you drop are for the active class you play
There are codexs that drop for all classes and you can still drop loot for other classes. >Your idea allows for this too
No it doesn't, because nothing legendary is going to be usable at level 1 due to the restrictions inherent to the system >If you beat the game as a necromancer, you should be given the choice to play a necromancer alt with the best affixes
You can literally do this already, provided that you saved your gear while levelling. The game also already provides 10 free levels to alts through renown, the experience is extremely easy. I feel like you haven't actually played an alt and are just speaking your ideals.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>There are codexs that drop for all classes and you can still drop loot for other classes.
But they are rare and it would be good to have something from the system shared too. >No it doesn't, because nothing legendary is going to be usable at level 1 due to the restrictions inherent to the system
If I have unlimited affix transfer I take the affix and put it to lv1 item. It's the same gymnastics with same hops but it's an inventory item instead of a menu. >You can literally do this already, provided that you saved your gear while levelling. The game also already provides 10 free levels to alts through renown, the experience is extremely easy. I feel like you haven't actually played an alt and are just speaking your ideals.
Reading comprehension? I was reacting to your "legendary at level 1" complaint not that something is or isn't in the game.
Except if someone enjoyed previous ones for what they were. But if you like D4 you're way better off just playing retail wow since D4 is just a shittier version of it.
Seriously, here is your saving grace, Blizzard. Make items worth getting. You have to reset everyone's progress. Make items worth getting. Make them tradeable and add more uniques with better affixes. You have to completely revamp how the game is played. The combat is fun, but the items are the worst there has been. They're all worthless, throwaway garbage. There is no trading for OP GG gear like there should be. There should be a currency or a bartering system. Hell, I wouldn't even be opposed to you selling currency like Runescape sells bonds for gold. You have to make items drop for every character regardless of their class, and you have to have target farming.
The game is basically shit because the underlying foundation is shit and there's nothing anyone can do. It's so casualized and made for consoles that it's a lost cause. Don't even waste your time.
Most of the shills (for mud huts, I guess?) haven't. They come here and talk about how shitty the game is. If you ask for proof of purchase, they're like "lol not a goyslop consoomer paypiggie," which means they're turd worlders mad about the price.
I was super critical after the 3 betas and about all the open world stuff before as well. Diablo is alongside with Souls my favourite genre / game of all time. Especially 2 has a special place in my heart and it will never be the same again as back then. Sentiment wise. D2R is great and I’ve played it since launch but it’s getting tiresome.
I’ve to say I’m absolutely loving D4. It’s an awesome game and I’m having a blast all the time, also the launch was pretty decent.
>impales lilith with spear >turns arround >lilith uses no u >its super effective! >litlith impales tyrael with same spear >unlike lilith cant shake it off
His mind was raped when he was imprisoned in hell. His headcanon was he could come home if only he destroyed his creation so he just sat in a room jerking off on his own paintings.
I watched a cinema without any real context and it seemed to be basically this. It seemed really forced. Lilith is cute so I will play her game anyways.
There is no endgame.
This is even worse than d3 at launch imo because while that at launch also didn't have proper endgame at least it was next to impossible at the highest difficulty so you had that to keep your playing.
Unlike d3 however I don't expect d4 to ever improve because all the talent have left the company so there is no a soul left in there that can actually fix this.
Did you kill uber Lilith? That is currently the endgame goal. Yes, there should be more bosses like Duriel and Andariel, but there is a goal for you unlike in D2 which has nothing but farming shit glorified mobs so you can farm them faster.
Why can I not play Paladin? Is it because Blizzard wants it in the expansion so that people will buy the expansion? Basically the most popular class is left out so that people have to buy the expansion? What if Blizzard had just blown everybody's minds by making Paladin included from the beginning? No, that's way too virtuous.
The earth dries up and withers,
the world languishes and withers,
the heavens languish with the earth.
5 The earth is defiled by its people;
they have disobeyed the laws,
violated the statutes
and broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse consumes the earth;
its people must bear their guilt.
Nah, Calypso had this creepy sexiness and the psycho makeup that made her seem like she lived on the outskirts of town and everyone avoided her. Taissa seems like a witch that would be like the respected village mother.
Prava is the kind of character you love to hate, because even if they're awful they're a true believer and utterly devoted to whatever bullshit they've decided. Inarius is annoying because he's a waffler.
Both are still somehow better written characters than Lilith.
So was Inarius getting stabbed by his own spear the >A spear of light piercing hatred's heart
Part of the prophecy?
Lilith did mention him having always been full of hate, or something like that.
I hope she does. I can see Rathma thinking his daddy who hates him is closer hatred than his big mommy who loves him. So I doubt she is hatred is hatred in that story, so I think you're right that if it's not Inarius it's probably Mephisto and not Lilith.
It doesn't matter when demons can respawn. Mephisto even wanted to be captured to the soulstone I'd say. Blizzard always writes this complete nonsense type of tweest.
I'm level 45, doing Act V
I shouldnt craft any legos right? its probably too early to spend those resources
can I start crafting them around level 50 WT3?
Just don't make lego rings. You get shit armor and weapons regularly and have a good amount of materials on hand. Rings and amulet materials are a little more scarce and should be saved for major power gains.
>brokebrained dead inside homosexuals play the game 120 hours a day >wow it's boring and I'm sick of it
Gaming discourse is absolutely saturated with these clowns. Yes, there can be a gaming discourse. D4 is without a doubt the best looking and best feeling ARPG ever released. Leave itemization for the dopamine monkeys to cry over. You can't speedrun films or real literature but you can speedrun games, and it's something this medium has to take into account because it's choking the life out of it.
Not him but D4 is objectively an 8/10 game at least. Ganker just hates everything Blizzard even if it's good. This shithole still hates D2R because of the character selection screen you spend 1 second looking at.
>Ganker just hates everything Blizzard even if it's good.
Explain people saying Diablo 2 Resurrected is good, D3 post-2014 is good, and Immortal's campaign is perfectly fine but the rest sucks.
wow you posted a picture. You're delusional if you don't think D4 looks good, feels good, and sounds good. Yeah builds are railroaded, enemy variety isn't where I want it to be, and the new itemization systems takes some getting used to but "dogshit" and "worst blizzard game" is just memeposting
>>Fell for it
Huh? How? >Campaign is good >Campaign and side content is more gameplay time than most games >$70, cost of a new game >Well worth the gameplay hours per dollar
The only people who fell for the meme are the ones who were b***hing about it being a live service game and then that it ended up being a bad live service game.
As a single player campaign game it was great and the best Diablo.
But nothing is happening. Oh no I am so sad a Black person I saw on the screen for 30 seconds was turned into a demon. Oh no they are going to summon Andariel cities will burn jk she is dead in 5 seconds lmao. Look there is this badass angel and demon mommy oh well here is cool cutscene of humans fighting demons and then complete moronation killing the angel in a cinematic instead of us doing something. Oh no we lost the soulstone but wait I am the hero I can fight Lilith in hell sure that works. Oh this 15 years old chink? Let her decide what to do with prime evil trapped in a pokeball.
Oh, when I say things happening I only mean the parts in the end. I get that you think they're moronic too, but it's not as bland as the whole rest of the game before that.
game is good, endgame is as good/bad as the genre allows I.E: kill shit a million times to get better gear to kill the same shit a million times but faster.
its always been like this, anybody that complains about the endgame is a tourist
it's literally just poe and mmo shitters complaining about the endgame cycle. diablo was always meant to be a "finish story a couple times and drop it" game in my eyes, not this endless seasonal grind garbage
...but you don't get better gear. That's literally the fricking point. You're not crafting better gear, you're not trading for better gear, and better gear doesn't drop from more difficult enemies.
>elite mobs do drop gear more often
But it's the same fricking gear. It's not BETTER. There is only one tier of item in the game, and that is "Legendary", and all you do is have an infinite amount of them funneled into your inventory until maybe you eventually get one that says "+5% Damage, +1 to <One of the three skills your class uses>" and that's the best item you will ever have because that's the best it can possibly be.
You can't roll or craft special or perfect gear for your build, and you can't sell or trade anything you have to someone who might want it. Also, there's no special or unique gear with unique or build-enabling properties. There's no discovering interactions to create new ways to play skills, and there's no way to make your "build" (Just you choosing 1 of 3 skills to use) different.
Is this a meme? Are you people just pretending to be this moronic?
>You can't roll or craft special or perfect gear for your build
But you can. You can roll different stats. >you can't sell or trade anything you have to someone who might want it
But you can. There are entire websites dedicated to this.
Also legendaries are primarily for affixes. If they have good stats that's a nice bonus. But you can always transfer the affix to a rare with good stats and make it a legendary.
I like it and I don't give a flying frick about Ganker going completely schizo over it. I played the beta test slam, liked it, bought it, and now I like it more. Simple.
One of you meme-posting shills who have dedicated your entire life to trying to shitpost about how much you love this game:
Drop the jokes for a second and tell me for real, what exactly are you DOING in it? You've finished the campaign, you've got your gear, so now what? You play the same level-scaled endgame dungeons over and over for a few paragon points that don't matter because content scales to you anyway? You can't sell or trade gear to people for profit, bosses don't drop unique or special items so you don't have a reason to farm them, and there's no cosmetics or challenges to earn.
So what exactly are you planning on spending the rest of your life doing in this game?
>You've finished the campaign, you've got your gear, so now what? You play the same level-scaled endgame dungeons over and over for a few paragon points that don't matter because content scales to you anyway? You can't sell or trade gear to people for profit, bosses don't drop unique or special items so you don't have a reason to farm them, and there's no cosmetics or challenges to earn.
I dropped it after campaign completion but what's your point? You understand the gameplay loop of every hack and slack is just doing the same shit over and over on differing difficulties, right?
>You understand the gameplay loop of every hack and slack is just doing the same shit over and over on differing difficulties, right?
Anon. You play games to chase things you can do in those games. We're not fricking having some philosophical discussion about "lol it's just pixels in a video game it's not real". Within the context of the game you payed 100 FRICKING DOLLARS TO PLAY, you can't even find the most basic of things to actually chase or work towards to keep you playing because none exist.
The average ARPG loop actually has fricking things for you do to. It has goals to chase, items to work for, bosses to farm and craft gear in order to power up to overcome. But Diablo, a 100 FRICKING DOLLAR GAME, literally doesn't even have the most basic form of that. In fact, it actually has negative amounts of that, because there isn't anything unique, powerful, or otherwise worthwhile to even put your time into in the game to begin with.
You can beat the campaign and all the content in the game exactly the same with a level 1 "bad build" as you can with a level 100 "good build".
i know you don't play the game and parrot opinions from Ganker so i'll let you in on this one secret: uniques >you can beat the campaign as a level 100
thank you for proving yourself to be full of shit
>The average ARPG loop actually has fricking things for you do to. It has goals to chase, items to work for, bosses to farm and craft gear in order to power up to overcome.
But, anon, D4 has all of that besides crafting (which is just a slot machine in POE and useless in D3). It's okay to not like it. I've aged out of the gameplay loop of these types of games. But the loop is there and the same as every other game in its genre.
>besides crafting (which is just a slot machine in POE
First, it's not a slot machine, because one of the major parts of PoE crafting is making your rolls as deterministic as possible.
But second, saying "Well, you know it doesn't have any actual gear crafting, but come on that's not really needed! You can just...transfer a skill mod to another piece of gear! That's basically the same! LOL!" is the most meme garbage nonsense anyone has ever pretended to think.
Pretending you don't play it while you defend it is not a covert way to shill. You're still trying to sell the product.
>Reddit spacing >Creating strawmen arguments for others and "beating" them >Fervently defending PoE
D4 may be shit but it's still better than PoE
11 months ago
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It's Runescape all over again. Thirdies are attacking D4 because it costs their yearly salary. PoE is free, so it's automatically the flagship game of their village.
11 months ago
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>flagship game of their village
11 months ago
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I thought the blizzcuck cope was path of exile actually takes more money than diabo 4 costs in stash tabs to play
why do you post so much and say so little? we all know you don't own the game because the shit you spew isn't even accurate about endgame.
Agter you finish the campeign several very important things happen, but clearly you don't know because you're a moron tourist.
I'm convinced Blizzard devs and hired underlings are mostly comprised of new people zoomers who never even played or only understand D2 in a microcosm.
This thread is stuffed with morons trying to convince themselves not to spend 70 dollars, they're literally inside their own heads and virtually foaming at the mouth with hysteria over it. They literally cannot mentally cope that other people are having a blast with the game lmao.
We get it You're poor and 70 dollars will unironicly ruin you. We can tell because you're about to develop a clinical condition over it.
>doing campaign (level 50 char) shit takes forever to kill >shit doesn't record so i can't upload to jewtube >level up alt to record again (level 28) >zone its level 36
where did the scaling go?
I haven't given Blizzard any money since I heard Diablo 3 would have a damn in-game shop for real money, taking away the entire point of the whole game in talking with your friends about what item drops you got.
I still think it's hilarious that you fight Duriel, and the wanderer is like >Kills Duriel in a random back alley >Was that a lesser evil? >Oh well whatever, who knows
Meanwhile Lorath was flipping out about Andariel being summoned
>YOU HAVE SLAIN A LESSER EVIL >QUEST XP REWARD >QUEST GOLD REWARD
Soulless. What about 3 scrolls of id, a worthless rare, a stamina pot and the reward being you having killed a cool boss and surviving?
Not only did I fall for it and bought it.
I am now playing the damn thing and every session there comes a point where I'm thinking I would rather be playing PoE right now.
What kind of fricked up game did Blizzard create that is addicting and unbearable at the same time
I didn't find anything addicting about this game--quite the opposite actually. Every second I spent playing this, I felt like shutting it off and/or going to sleep. I tried to get addicted to it but it just made me want to play D2. I'm sure it would have been better with a party but solo is terrible.
>500 replies for this slop
Yearly reminder Blizzard will never stop their scummy business practices because paypiggies like OP exist and are the cancer destroying gaming
>this game sucks >haven't played or bought, but take my word for it >sirs, play PoE. it's free and my shit covered streets are filled with discussion of the needful that can be done in it
Ironic, since PoE shilling is almost non existent on Ganker while your slop got an aggressive paid for 1 week non-stop spam campaign, no doubt partly pajeet as well
I definitely am a pajeet. A pajeet with a 4090. I shit in the streets and live better than you, who has to b***h about people buying games he can't afford. Do the needful and send me bobs and vagena.
You're still playing slop my man, not sure what that simple statement got you so riled up. There are $70 games worth their money, D4 is not one of them, shit-for-brains. Why are you still here? Done with your 10-hour campaign thus the game already?
Who paid $70 for Diablo 4? They must be slightly less poor than you. >Play Time : 1 day 7 hours 20 minutes
Not bad considering I'm not even close to done.
Blizz me once, shame on Blizzard
Blizz me twice... won't get fooled again
Play the new game
Same as the old game!
at least u didn't fall for
>warcraft 3 reforged
>diablo 3
>diablo immortal
>diablo 2 resurrected
before this. good job OP
2R and 3 are good.
Immortal is fine if you just play the campaign once and then run away as fast as you can.
immortal is free. Literally better choice than paying for d4.
Diablo 3 at least got saved by RoS
Reforged really showed they didn't give the slightest shit about their games being good
>war3 reforged
Last chance to unfrick some parts of war3 and THIS is what we've got.
I fell for d3, that was last time
i remember playing D3 when it released.
>act 4, heaven
>AHHHH SO YOU MADE IT TO MY REALM OF TERRROROROROROROR
>BEHOLD! MY TERRORRORRRORR!
>YOU WILL NEVER ESCAPE MY AWESOME TERROROROROROR!
i alt+f4'd the moment i killed diablo, uninstalled and didnt touch it until RoS was released.
D3 launch sucked but they turned it around. I have no hope for 4. Their other franchises have produced nothing worth a damn in the interim, they fired/ran out most of their actual talent, and it's a GaaS (aka, updates will focus on player retention and MTX over fun).
I fell for Overwatch.
OW actually good IP eventho i have no idea wtf the point of OWL was. the game's shit to watch. jeff kaplan left, so just dont fall for 2
ow was good during beta and after release until they focused on esport and forcing ranked rules on quickplay
OW was unironically good from the May it launched until June when they added "Competitive"
OW was fine, worth $40
except when they downgraded it and called it 2 while taking away the one I paid for (could they really not have left it and just removed official dedicated servers?)
I never played Warcraft 3 as a kid and bought Reforged a few months ago, after playing the tutorial mission I found out I could play with the old graphics, did that, and never went back. I didn't even particularly hate the new ones but it's so much more colorful and fun, plus I love these little frickers
yeah it's a wonderful game. I sit on the bus on the way home from school and talk about it with other 11 year olds, then we would be like "ok log in and I'll host the game when you get home" etc etc
Very different from every other RTS I've ever played too, I still love Age of Empires II but this one might beat it out one day if I stick with it. I was skeptical about the hero micro at first when I found out Arthas had a little inventory but it's turned out to be completely bearable
I'm a broodwar player through and through so I don't really enjoy the 1v1 aspect of wc3, but I put about 10 years into its custom games.
Honestly I got like 1000 hours out of D3 before I moved over to PoE. Didn't last 2 days in D4.
what's wrong with Diablo 2 Resurrected?
My last straw was Diablo 3. Thankfully I got my moneys worth back from the RMAH by botting.
I'm so pleased with myself whenever I see these threads from brainlets with no intelligence or willpower like OP.
D2R is good though.
Coincidentally it wasn't made by Blizzard.
Diablo 3 was fun af 11 years ago. Specially couch co-op with your friends.
d2r is good despite it being pozzed(cause it's basically the original with some tweeking) , and diablo 3 with the DLCs is a good game.
dead rogue
Heh, loser. I bet you were peer-pressured into drinking orange juice too.
I don't get it. I like it, I don't feel I "fell" for anything.
Diablo 2 Resurrected is amazing, this one is amazing too.
I spent 10 years shitting on Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2, so I don't hesitate to call Blizzard out when they are trash, but D2R and D4 are solid.
>Sucking blizzard dick this hard
Stop
I'm not sucking their dick, but I'm not going to hate on them for no reason.
I literally don't give a frick about LAN, the last time that actually happened was more than 20 years ago. I know removing features is bad, but realistically for me this isn't something I'm going to lose sleep over since it literally doesn't affect me.
I doubt Diablo 1 and 2 were designed to play forever, they never meant them to have an "endgame". Diablo 4 already has more endgame potential than 1 and 2 since they do actually have plans to support the game further with seasons and expansions and whatnot.
>I doubt Diablo 1 and 2 were designed to play forever, they never meant them to have an "endgame".
20 years have passed by, your standards should be adjusted accordingly. Like someone said above, you don't want to go back to the days of running 10k Baal runs in a row.
Not sure what you are trying to say. 10k Baal runs is not something the developers intended either. As I said, Diablo 2 didn't have an "endgame" designed, and it was not mean to play forever. I think the developers are just as much surprised why people keep palying it 10-20 years later.
Expecting that kind of longetivity from Diablo 4 is silly, and not sure what you are expecting them to do aside from what they already have planned.
>As I said, Diablo 2 didn't have an "endgame" designed, and it was not mean to play forever.
No fricking shit. Why is it that 2 decades can pass and nothing in that department has improved? Does D4 have any meaningful endgame to speak of? What the frick are you grinding for once you're done with the campaign?
>I literally don't give a frick about LAN
remember to always stay online for your single player game then LMAO hopefully you dont lose your character to server crash or dc. OH WAIT you're a softcore casual. nvm
Ahh OK being a softcore casual surely invalidates me completely (not).
doesn't invalidate you at all. YOU MATTER! blizz sells millions of copies to normies like you. they balance and design around trash like you. YOU MATTER LITTLE SNOWFLAKE. continue to ignore the other issues that were brought up too. you dont care right? clean up the blizz daddy's cum around your mouth
Well, I have 54 kids and 28 jobs. The average person doesn't play games for 100 hours so expecting companies to balance games around that is asinine.
asinine is too big a word for dimwit blizzdrone like you. good luck on level 100 tho ROFL
You're just mad because you're a turd worlder that is too poor to experience the best ARPG released during the last 20 years.
>Diablo 2 Resurrected is amazing
kek he doesnt know
>tcp/ip
>nham
imagine paying blizzard for upgraded textures when project diablo 2 has 60 fps widescreen support without removed features
>PD2
>banned for dueling
Trash
always the autists that get banned and say "I DINDU NUFFIN"
>always the autists
D2 has always been for autists by autists. Frick off with your shitty twitch mod.
>banned for dueling
oh sure, let me look up the rule that bans dueling KEK
>twitch mod
projecting much? hahahhaa stay mad u got caught for duping or some shitty exploit ur too bad at covering up
If you hostile random people, you get an immediate ban if they report you. Stop being disingenuous because you want random idiots to play your dead mod.
i dont care for the mod. u inserted urself in the conversation when i compared it to D2R with removed features and unfixed bugs that a mod has fix/workarounds for. go back to sucking rod fergusons dick lil bro
It's garbage aimed at normalhomosexuals who play 3 hours a week and never push for anything endgame-related so why even bother designing an endgame. Not worth $7 let alone $70.
>0.0001$ has been deposited into your account.
Cmon, admit it, you don't have time or money to enjoy it properly,
you watched 2 YouTube clips and now you shit on it.
Play it for 20 hours and then opinionate this thread.
>inb4 shill
Go frick yourself, you are that neo-Blizz e-sport,SC2 Korea, WOW, Heartstone, MW2.0 enjoyer that made me hate Blizz in the first place.
>d4
>solid
>sc2
>trash
get this casual frick outta here
I'm with you, man. D2r recaptured alot of nostalgia for me. Currently enjoying D4.
Yeah no, d4 is okay at best if you're a normalgay. The story was dogshit but after d3 i wasn't expecting any better and the gameplay is passable and it feels more like d2, endgame is d3 all over again. The game is as mid as it gets.
then why are people rating it a 10/10 moron
Doesn't this game have an 86 on metacritic? Even journalists think it's mid. That's lower than D3's score.
Its pretty and it feels more like d2 specially while going through the campaign which all a normalhomosexual will ever experience, enough for coomsoomers. Game is in fact MID.
>Diablo 2 Resurrected is amazing
What is the point of this game? You run through the same levels 3 times and then you teleport through the entire content to kill a boss that does nothing so that you can teleport to the boss and kill him slightly faster the next time. Did I miss something? I mean the game must've been great 20 years ago but now it's outdated.
Ignore the shitposters and do your thing, bloomeranon. This board hates video games and the people who play them. What level and class are you?
I'm doing my first playthrough as an oldschool whirlwind barbarian, like my first character in Diablo 2 was when I was like 12. I'm having a blast, close to finishing the campaign.
Will make a sorcerer next.
Based, I was also WW Barb. Sucked 30-45 but once I got T3 and some okay gear I started shredding with good Fury regen. I might make Druid or Trap Rogue next. Heard Sorc is in a tough spot and CL sucked so I don't know about playing her anytime soon.
Good decision, don't play Sorc. Even if the builds we have were good deep into endgame, they still all revolve around Frost Nova as our only reliable source of Vuln. Making the exploit glyph not apply vuln for Sorc and Necro is a fricking bizarre decision.
I use a Sorc, mostly lightning, but still roll with Frost Nova. Lightning Spear is a better source of stun/vuln/freeze procs. The tracking is ridiculous and does a good job at knocking out the entire battlefield. I Frost Nova just to control space and get a few extra bits of damage in while waiting on another Lightning Spear or Unstable Currents. What is awful about Sorc is that you pretty much need Nova and Teleport hot keyed, which leaves you to drop one of your other attack types.
If you enchant ice shards you delete the screen with frost nova.
You can apply vuln with literally every single cast of ice shards moron
Don't tell me you're taking the barrier acts as frozen talent
Your aoe should already be fricking insane
I play firewall because I play HC.
I pirated D2R and deleted it after killing Diablo. I would have felt bad about paying money for this tbh.
This. Initially I hated D4 because the level scaling is lame but now that I get how nightmare dungeons don't scale im fine.
I've been playing all the D2 mods and they don't even hold a candle to D2R or D4. Most people are really really stupid in the world and this just proves it. Anyone with a higher IQ wouldn't be responding with "you fell for it" that's some low IQ basement logic only found in the depths of pedophile discord channels.
>I spent 10 years shitting on Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2, so I don't hesitate to call Blizzard out when they are trash, but D2R and D4 are solid.
Why do people buy games they think are gonna be shit? I'm not gonna buy Cyberpunk 2077 cause I think the game's shit. Maybe if it comes out on sale I'll get it to check out, but not when it's 60+
>inb4 pirate
Even when I do, again, I'm not gonna pirate a shit game. Why when I have a thousand games, will I get a shit one?
>Why do people buy games they think are gonna be shit? I'm not gonna buy Cyberpunk 2077 cause I think the game's shit.
Because they're supposed to be good! They're supposed to be GOOD! THEY ARE GOOD. You're just a fricktard
I have extremely little faith in Blizzard, after seeing thread and thread, article and article, and testimonies of anons and IRL people say the game is shit. And the few people I do know who played Overwatch a lot, are people I don't respect, and thus, use them as an anti-recommendation
Diablo 4 is 70 dollars, I have 3 decades of ARPG games to play (and a bunch of other games too), why would I spend 70 dollars on a game I think is shit? Now, in 5 years, if it's the price of a sandwich, I might get it. But that's for a gamble.
This board thinks D2R is shit but everywhere outside of Ganker that plays D2 thinks it's good. It's the same with D4.
And I trust Ganker cause this is my home. If it's literally any non-popular game, I follow an anon's recommendations and I never got disappointed. Some guy said to me "hey, I wanna discuss Ghostrunners", I got it for the price of a sub, and it's my GOTY of 2020. He didn't even say anything except that there's this game called Ghostrunners.
It's the best ARPG on the market right now, though. It mogs D2 in basically every way. No one wants to run 10,000 baal runs in 2023.
Lost Ark is a better ARPG in every way than D4. You're just yet another "ARPG fan" who only plays diablo. Like "MMO fans" who only play wow.
Explain how?
Plays better, more customization, more content in general, more variety in locals.
The only thing D4 does better is cinematic story telling. Full stop.
>more customization/content
This can be explained by the fact you first played the game when it had already been released for 5 years. It doesn't make it a better game.
>more variety in locales*
The locales in Lost Ark are utter shit, cookie cutter pirate/mecha/medieval/literally Gulliver's Island setting. Diablo isn't that good, but it is at least consistent and logical. I can't see how this is a positive for Lost Ark.
>logical instead of fun
lame
the best part about la was every island was its own little thing. Consistency is another word for boring.
Consistency is important when building a world, it's fine to like the saturday morning cartoon style of arpg storytelling but don't pretend that it's the only exciting possible method
>better combat
>better and more customization
>more and better classes
>incredibly amazing raids
>decent story with some good characters heroes and villains
>cool events like islands n shit full of minigames
>hard to get into but great and skilled pvp
>a lot of collectibles if you like that stuff
the only real shit problem about lost ark is how to gear up/accesibility and how its linked to real money or a lot and i mean a lot of free time and thats why everyone in the west left that game
This is why every KMMO fails in the west. They need to have better upgrade rates and fundamentally different monetization to be successful, but no localizer seems to have the balls to completely throw out the Kslop progression and implement something sensible.
The joke is they made it worse in west than it was in korea. Amazon cant help itself not squeezing paypigs dry.
Weeb artstyle sadly disqualifies it for me automatically. It could be the best game in universe but if it has weeb design, I can't play it.
trying to fit in too hard. Nobody sees what you play anon...
What? I don't like weeb artstyle, it has nothing to do with other people. I was recommended FF14 so many times and I can't do it either because it just looks awful to me.
who defined weeb artstyle and weeb bad? Other people.
As for ff14 i could understand not liking ff14 for gameplay, its early lvls are mmo typical especially mindnumbing boring and i hated that myself but i will never get artstyle issues.
>who defined weeb artstyle and weeb bad? Other people.
I am the other people. I don't like weeb artstyle. Do you get your opinions from other people that this is such an alien concept to you?
No as mentioned i dont let other people dictate what i should like. I dont care about the art style because a game is about gameplay. Good gameplay with kid graphics is better than trash gameplay with grimdark graphics trying to appear adult.
>Good gameplay with kid graphics is better than trash gameplay with grimdark graphics trying to appear adult.
I can play a mediocre gameplay game if the artstyle and story is good. I cannot play the best gameplay if the artstyle is shit. I like Witcher 3 but the gameplay (combat) is nothing to write home about.
The rational conclusion to that is watch movies.
Best visuals. Or watch movie versions of games. Why would you play trash gameplay if you dont care about it anyway.
I didn't say trash. I said mediocre. I care about gameplay. But I care about visuals.
Still, i rather watch than grind myself. If the gameplay isnt fun why waste your time on it?
Like i watched uncharted finish cause i got bored of it midgame but wanted to see story to end.
I'd say it was 7/10, but I rolled sorc so it's 6/10 for some of the worst balancing I've seen on AAA game. How can you have a class do literally 1/5th the damage of all the others while also being the squishiest? Even the Black folk got a better compromise with 3/5ths. Genuine moronation.
>I fell for it
how??? you knew full well for the past 10 years that d3 was shit and all blizzard cares about is perpetual monetization.
these silly webms I recorded ages ago are getting a frickton of mileage because of how fricking awful d4 turned out to be
Looks moronic
Every high level character of these kind of games look stupid.
>spin to win
you didn't beat the game
Is this supposed to be good? D4 is way better than this garbage.
>that moronic long jump
SOUL
thank you for saving me $40
You totally missed the point, paid Blizzshill. That game is awesome. Look at that armor and glow
I used to like D2 but after playing D4, I can't go back to that boring jank.
i never played the original d2. im not blinded with rose-tinted boomilennial goggles like you
Is that D2 or 3?
Terrible
they don't like the webms dahnald
This is peak gameplay and I don't care what anyone says
I’m actually enjoying the game a lot
But the idea that I have to reveal the map and do renown again with seasons genuinely just kills all desire I have to play
I don't even like ARPGs, why the frick did I buy this game.
Some streamer or youtuber probably programmed you to buy it.
Actually, it was because all of my friends were buying it. It isn't even a good co-op game, everything dies in half a second.
I'll never understand this genre.
Very funny watching people spend all day on here and /vg/ seething about the game
It's like they noticed it was popular and well received and the contrarian switch immediately flicked on in their head
This. It's actually insane how much seethe this game causes. Ganker just can't handle the fact that Blizzard released an amazing game. Playing Diablo 4 just makes me realize how terrible shit like Diablo 2 is.
Were it $20, Ganker would swear it's GotC.
Nice picture of yourself, turd worlder. Keep seething because you're too poor to play D4. It's so obvious that the people b***hing about it haven't even played it.
Yeah I can confirm this anon is from some shithole country.
Just went to bed and he’s still posting this as a reply to people in d4 threads.
Well, frick it, first thing I'm gonna do after I press "Post" is to make a coffee and log in to play this "shitty" Diablo for ~5-6 hours how bad it is.
And, no, no amount of hype could convince me to play a bad game 5-6 hours daily, no one is that stupid.
On the other hand, yes, to play this game you have to have access to time and money(one is the same) so I do get why some people are pissed.
Look, if ARPGs are not your thing, I'ts ok, I usually hate Blizz games(played old Warcraft and Starcraft, hated WOW, hated vanilla D2&D3, they cater to lowest common denominator and take all the good ideas, dumb them down, hide it behind shitload of polish.
Now they make risks and actually add something new to the table(even if most of it is rehash of old ideas again, there are some new concepts, at the end of the day, they invented ARPGs so they can do with it what they want, it's their ass on the line).
My point being, this is objectively good game and if you are not into it, nothing will convince you otherwise, but don't look at 3 YouTube opinions of some crazed minmax who do this for the living and they finished everything back in beta and now cry they have nothing to do.
I'm on my first character, lvl.52, still didn't finish campaign, people literally destroy their playtrough because they play some meta game where they have to be first and can't see forest from a tree.
Just finished the campaign here.
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You're basically saying poojeets have more money than you.
X-Box controls...
Your opinion discarded, you don't even get how this game is played.
I play it on PC with a controller. It's way more comfy than your carpal tunnel sim.
Imagine using the same button to both move and attack.
Playing this shit on a mouse is a nightmare.
I've been using a PS5 controller about half my playtime. I'm using skills that chain off of enemies so aiming isn't very important. A controller during the bullet hell segments works really well. I really wish Keyboard had WASD movement.
I only use the mouse to scrap all the shit in the inventory.
BTW.
Barb, controller,90.000 gold, no red dust, int & wis in low hundreds, you didn't even start to play the game.
Oh, I know. I'm looking forward to grinding, but I don't have much time to play outside of the weekends.
>reddit spacing
Gameplay's alright. Leveling-wise, I had much more fun with how Last Epoch presented the skill trees. D4's skill sticks leave a lot to be desired.
For how much D4 is price tagged at though, it's trash on top of having a scummy-priced MTX shop. The game needs one more year and an expansion with a Paladin-type class to be worth it with a lot of QOL and features reworked/added.
All the buzz got me to try Diablo 3. I don't get what people were so mad about.
because its a completely different game than on release
I'm playing the campaign on normal. It can't be that different since they didn't change its contents.
the entire game got rebalanced into trivial difficulty after RoS patch dropped. the enemies cant even do enough damage to kill if you have enough life regen. Its a complete husk of what it used to be on launch.
As a dad™ I feel the time has come to explain to the virgins on this sub who this game is for : dads. To understand why D4 is a game for dads, and exclusively for dads, you need to understand who dads are :
First of all, by definition, dads are sex-havers. At least once in any case. Many of you won't understand, but once the P goes in the V your interest in endgame mob density is severely reduced.
Second, dads are rich. Dads spend most of their time working, which is why most have only made it half way through caracter creation. Also, kids are very cheap, seeing they eat much less than fully grown humans. This means dads have a LOT of disposable income. So you can understand dads do not care about spending 30$ to play a few days earlier or 25$ for a little wolf hat. This also signals your dad status to other dads.
Thirdly, dads profoundly dislike their spouses and argue with them all the time. Most of them are actually separated (although in a few rare cases they can be in a stable relationship a cool gamer wife / fellow sex-haver). Now what is the theme of D4? Pursuing and killing a mother who got in a disagreement with a dad. We could not relate more.
Finally, dads are nostalgic. They yearn for a time where video games were about having fun, not excel spreadsheets. They don't care that the sorcerer meta is very limited. They are just happy to be casting little bolts of lightning. Unlike you, most of them are not on Adderall and can tolerate a 10 second cooldown.
So in conclusion, please stop with all the dads vs no-lifers endless debates. This game was clearly made for dads. We have so little left, please let us have this one game.
Edit : seeing all the messages from fellow dads™ who are touching grass and tapping ass really warms my heart. The min/maxing nerds must really feel small this morning.
/thread to end all threads
Dad games™
We are such starved part of this market, no one caters for us anymore.
I have to use beefy laptop(shit's would be expensive for kids price=/=performance ratio and you have to buy another one every 2 years).
For me, dad games are as follows:
no Arcanum 2, no real Fallout 3, no real Morrowind 2, no real Planescape 2,
no real BG3, no more intricate point'n'click LucasArts adventures with real humor and mature story, no more complex puzzles to solve, no interesting story to read in my CRPGs.
In last 15 years we got(and, I respect tastes of fellow dads, please, contribute your list, maybe there is something I missed):in no particular order:
The Witcher trilogy(don't want to enter discussion about what past is the best, they all are good on their own way)
System Shock Remake
Diablo 4
RDR2
Fallout Vegas
Civilization(insert number you like)
I would write Disco Elysium but those pink haired monstrosities who think they discovered socialism and the fact that world is not fair took that so I'm ashamed to admit it was a good one,
Liked FF7 when I was kid, FF7 RE is for kids, they got me there.
Will enjoy Broken Roads if time will alow me, same goes for Starfield(on the fence of this one,aint no spaceman).
Dads, please write your lists, maybe there is something interesting I missed?(don't like sports and racing, I respect it, just not personal preference).
You have to admit that Diablo 4 is a tier below all of those games you listed even if you're in love with it.
Why if I like it, it's not competition for me, there is no better or worse.
It's how much I like it in a moment.
When it ceases to be entertaining I'll drop it, let it be and come back to it when I got an itch.
Don't you get it, those "10/10"," AAA+" bullshit buzzwords are created by marketing teams, not devs.
Play what you like as much as you like it, mute Reviews on YouTube if you are not sure, don't fall for fancy CGI, don't preorder, stay in your lane(if you like strategy and hate racing, there is no amount of strategy forced into racing that will make you like it).
Look, I came here for a second until my coffee is done and meant to play D4, saw that some people somehow don't like D4 and only reason I see is they either didn't play it or it's not their cup of tea, but why ruin it for 99% of us who like it, play little side quests, then main story, don't look into "how to come to 100 lvl in 8 seconds" or" best endgame build, can clean Hell like hooker your wallet" shit on YouTube..
And I lost couple of hours, and I could play D4, on little free time I had...
People not liking something shouldn't ruin your enjoyment of a game unless you don't actually like it and are coping.
> Also, kids are very cheap, seeing they eat much less than fully grown humans.
larping idiot
you constantly got to buy new clothes cause they growing and fund hobbies and other disposable crap.
>he doesnt wear clothes after his older sister
>you constantly got to buy new clothes cause they growing
you get clothes from passed down from people in your family and then, of course, the bonus grandma knitted clothes. this is assuming you have a normal family which 95% of Gankerirgins obviously don't have
What poorgay region are you from?
You got to have new clothes to live comfortable in school and not get shat on. Hand me downs aint cutting it.
>Now what is the theme of D4? Pursuing and killing a mother who got in a disagreement with a dad. We could not relate more.
But Lilith physically and metaphorically castrates Incelnarius and takes all the money and the house, how is this a dad-approved message?
>physically and metaphorically castrates
>how is this a dad-approved message
I can't imagine why
Any game is a dad game to you. Everything you said doesn't really matter. A dad will play anything. The only reason you got this game is because the marketing hit you.
Don't give us your trash opinion.
A real dad would be stupid to pick a time consuming game. You get off work you spend time with your wife and kid(s), fix shit around the house, take care of the cars of the household and after all that you get 60 to 90 mns of "me" time where you could play stuff but the "me" time can be interrupted at any moment by a toddler puking or your kid being sick or your wife asking for something.
Diablo is a game for nerds, with seasons and all that battlepass shit. It was always a serie for turbo autists with no life and certainly not dads.
t. real dad©
Lilith killing Inarius is an allegory of women backstabing their husbands, taking away children and alimony
Bravo Kojima
>Pursuing and killing a mother who got in a disagreement with a dad. We could not relate more.
post was gay until this point, then it became based
still not playing it, but I do relate
Seek a psychologist
>actually paying for Ganker gold so you can edit posts
What happened?
i have to admit im really butthurt i cant refund it.
i finished the single player campaign once, and i never want to play it ever again.
i honestly didnt have fun for even 5 minutes throughout the whole playthrough.
everything in D4 is designed to be anti-fun, boring, or just waste my time.
>i hate the boring, lame-ass, "generator generator generator spender" gimmick. I hate it. its anti-fun bullshit.
>i hate the level scaling
>i hate the itemisation
>i hate the skill "tree". Its more like a skill twig. A few spells per class, with 2-3 +dmg perks. What the frick is this shit.
>i hate the lack of music
>i hate that there is a "communist-russia grey" filter put over the whole game. I just cant look at it for longer than 5 minutes without falling asleep.
i could go on and on and on, but i just want to even talk about this shit game anymore.
Im dissapointed, and pissed off.
Ill just uninstall it and replay D2R again.
You've posted this copypasta before. I read it a week ago. Are these threads just filled with the same 4 butthurt idiots seething?
>he actually types his replies and doesnt use copy/paste
newbie.
So that's a yes? Spamming Ganker with your repetitive seethe won't refund your money.
>Spamming Ganker with your repetitive seethe won't refund your money.
but it makes me feel better and my butthurt is smaller.
just block me, because i wont ever stop seething about D4.
>i hate that there is a "communist-russia grey" filter put over the whole game. I just cant look at it for longer than 5 minutes without falling asleep.
Wish someone could make a mod to remove the color grading.
>Wish someone could make a mod to remove the color grading.
that would be like putting a band-aid on an axe wound.
game is just ugly as shit, especially the entire open world.
the only place that didnt look like trash was this 1 dungeon with spider legs coming out of the walls.
Maybe it's over-correction?
Even if people didn't like the style, Diablo 3 was really pretty.
reshade should be able to do that.
Its a general tool to tweak visuals.
That said game is boring af. Luckily i played beta and 10h is all i could stomach before quitting.
Reshade can only do so much for a game with little color to begin with.
The minimum requirement is just that the colors arent identical.
If its all same color value you cant separate it but if its even 0.4999 vs 0.5 you can exagerate it to 0. and 1.
>10 hours before quitting
pretty incredible, really - i saw everything the entire game had to offer during the beta.
you get all the spells after like 2-3 hours, lol.
what the frick was blizzard thinking with this?
Ok, what does diablo 2 have that makes it so good and enjoyable compared to 3 and 4?
>what does diablo 2 have that makes it so good and enjoyable compared to 3 and 4?
easy.
>D2 has music
>no cooldowns
>looks fantastic, great art direction
>set items
>runes
>can allocate stat points
No one wants to do 100,000 baal runs
ok? then dont?
If that's all that's missing then why didn't they put these features in the D3 and D4?
>Still me
Is the game Very bad or something?
What is the problem with these games? I haven't played any of them so I really don't know.
Why was 3 a shit? I'm not denying just sincerely asking, I mean from what you say it makes it sound like previously the franchise was good, does that mean 2 and 1 were better? In that case why was 3 bad in comparison?
Also what is the problem with monetization? Isn't it the quality of the game that matters regardless? How would blizard caring only about monetization hurt the quality of the game? Shouldn't they try to make better games to profit more from it?
>Also what is the problem with monetization? Isn't it the quality of the game that matters regardless? How would blizard caring only about monetization hurt the quality of the game? Shouldn't they try to make better games to profit more from it?
>Still me
I mean from a logical point of view if they make bad games it should actually decrease their profits so if they care so much about profits then shouldn't they try to make better games for it?
>if they care so much about profits then shouldn't they try to make better games for it?
Since when are 6 year olds allowed here?
I'm 27 years old, but I haven't played any games for a long time, so I'm not really up to date with what's been happening.
>Still me
I mean if the game is bad doesn't that just mean that people won't play it and will go to some other better game instead?
>Also what is the problem with monetization?
Skews priorities on updates.
>What is the problem with these games? I haven't played any of them so I really don't know.
>warcraft 3 reforged
Made the original version basically inaccessible through legal means and broke an incredible amount of custom maps (and for the longest time, Rexxar's campaign) for one of the worst graphical "upgrades" in the history of remasters.
>diablo 3
Made specifically for argentinian gold farmers at release with auction house being the main focus of every other game mechanic, has an awful, infantile story with moronic retcons and uncharacteristically terrible voice acting, simplified gameplay and itemization to cookie clicker levels.
>diablo immortal
come on now
>diablo 2 resurrected
Not much wrong with it to be honest, the classic graphics mode is fricky but at least they didn't remove the original from the face of the earth and afaik you can still even play it on bnet. Remastered graphics and cinematics seem kinda lacking to me but they're not terrible unlike reforged.
>with moronic retcons
What retcons?
Doesn't anyone have an answer for this?
>has an awful, infantile story with moronic retcon
What is horrible and infantile about the story and what moronic retcons were there?
3
>>Made specifically for argentinian gold farmers at release with auction house being the main focus of every other game mechanic, has an awful, infantile story with moronic retcons and uncharacteristically terrible voice acting, simplified gameplay and itemization to cookie clicker levels.
This was actually somewhat helpful since my first real time with Diablo was D3 Reaper of Souls on PS3. I really enjoyed it. If D4 is at least similar, let alone even more complicated, I think I will really enjoy D4.
I always meant to go back and do another D3 play-through but I just never did for some reason.
Game takes a nosedive after the campaign
I'm having a decent time.
I think D3 was more fun in terms of progression but I guess I'll see how endgame plays out
I just love building characters in games based on items I get
Recommend me ARPGs to play
I've played
>D1/D2/D3
>Grim Dawn
>PoE
>Throne of Darkness
>Titan Quest
>Tower of Kalemonvo
>Lost Ark
Anything besides D4?
wolcen is quite good, if a bit janky at times
it even works without internet
Lost Epoch, Wolcen, if you're a 40k gay I heard that Inquisitor game is okay-ish.
Last Epoch
Which have you liked the most?
D2 by far, but I'm old enough to have appreciated it on release so it might be the nostalgia. I didn't play D2R, just the original + LoD
40K Inquisitor, without a doubt, was not good at release, is now.
God damn, I hate how poor kids want to make new Tortanic from Diablo4 and game is really solid, but they destroyed their enjoyment by rushing the end game.
Savor that shit, play some sidequests.
Play Diablo Immortal on your pocket PCs, that's for you. Hey, it's free and you just press a button and it takes you to another "fight bigger than life" spot.
Endgame is called endgame for a reason.
3 was shit because Disney graphics and RMAH, I got rid of it, but they say that with all those addons game became good, didn't try it so I don't know.
Who knows what will Diablo 4 be like in 10 years, then everyone will shit on 5 and reinstall 4, eating 'memberberries how good it was and how true to the form it was, just like 2...
rmah was the only good think about d3. Lots of people got $100+ bnet money out of it which made other games free purchases.
Why do morons not understand that a game with no MTX gets different kinds of updates than a live service game? Diablo 4 isn't going to magically fix itself in 5 years.
So, we'll play and whales will pay.
Oh, yes it is, I think you don't get it.
Last Epoch,POE2,WH 40K Inquisitor,that Spartan stuff, Grim Dawn2,Wolcen, shit I don't even know about.
Blizz lost their "word of mouth" long time ago, they'll have to double down to stay relevant,
forget MTX, it's their ass on the line...
Long gone are the days where people paid 10$ monthly just so they can enjoy their games on their battle.net....
They will release so much content for free just to stay out of the bargain bin, let alone pricing 99.99 for Ultimate Ultra edition+MTX...
People don't buy that shit anymore, competition is strong and real.
From that list, only PoE 2 and Last Epoch have a chance of actually making a dent in anything, and still they made more money from the launch than Last Epoch will make in its entire life span.
I actually do expect those games to chip away at D4 though. Merchant's Guild/Circle of Fortune from Last Epoch already sound more interesting than anything we know of that's upcoming in D4, and PoE's Atlas and league mechanic progression in general will take years for D4 to match.
Have you not seen what they've done to WoW and Overwatch?
You're mental if you think several teams working on bite sized content due our every three months can turn a game around the way a dedicated team working on an expansion for two years can. May as well have said
>Guys, Avengers is going to be so good, just give it time!
Absolutely moronic.
you sound like a homosexual
I expected a good time mostly during the campaign and I got it. I was on copium about the end game even though i had suspicions.
But looking at blizzard's campaign completion stats, and I guess I see why they didn't put so much end-game activities pre season 1.
I don't think this game is catered to people who play ARPGs exlusively really.
yep me too
actually a perfect game when I don't feel playing anything but don't want to go outside or do something else
lost my 54 character due to oneshot CC bs and leveling another one
I'm actually having a good time, not a 70$ good, but considering this shit is going to run next 5 years for sure sign me the frick up
How new are you? No seriously, I'm not talking about 4chin specifically, how fricking new are you? Don't you still understand that the average Blizzard player has the mentality of a cuckold? They love being sold ideas instead of products, they love paying the price of a full game for a cosmetic, they love paying months of a first world country's salaries for items with minimal drop chances. Did you see what Blizzard released the last 10 years and said: Hmm these look like a bunch of nice devs that no one is angry against them, I will support them, I will buy their overpriced average game. For anyone with an IQ higher than the current room temperature, anyone who still defends Blizzard is unironically a paid shill, and if you still fall for their lies, you deserve to be part of their target audience.
D4 was a massive fomo trap for gays and hit at the perfect time where all games are total shit to play. Blizzard wins again, im sure once these gays are done playing it they will resub to WoW for heckin hardcore classic!
I won't laugh at you Anon because I almost fell for it. Here's the funny thing, I tried both betas and absolutely disliked it and I know the game isn't for me however I haven't bought a single game since deep rock galactic during last christmas steam sale. Then I have several friends who started playing it and asked me to play with them. 70$ is nothing to me, it's a fricking bottle of decent scotch, I'm an oldgay and have disposable income so when it only takes one click to buy something it takes some self control.
It's not always easy to have, that's why gacha games rack so much money and this fricking industry is riddled with MTX everywhere.
Just remember to ask yourself if you really need or want something before spending money or if you're just making a dumb impulsive decision.
>I won't laugh at you Anon because I almost fell for it. Here's the funny thing, I tried both betas and absolutely disliked it and I know the game isn't for me however
Fricking this. I've not only tried both public betas but I was also able to play the end game beta back in October and hated every minute with this game. However, Blizzard's insane FOMO advertising couple with peer pressure also makes me want to buy it and give it yet another shot. Almost.
i canceled my pre-order after playing the beta.
ive never been so bored out of my mind playing a slasher game.
i simply didnt have fun at all.
not even for a minute.
i pity the people who think this is good, in any way.
>like 5 spells per class
>graphics worse than D2R
>no music
>"i need 5 turds from monsters X" secondary quests
>every single fricking spell is on a 10 hour cooldown
this is Lost Ark for 70-100$ with an additional 10-15$ season pass, depending if you want the standard or the super-goy season pass edition.
people who buy this need to rethink their lives.
Honestly, I think I could have some fun with this if I was playing with friends but then again, any piece of crap can be enjoyable when you're slaying with a group of dudes. I suspect people that swear by this game haven't tried doing it solo for any length of time.
>any piece of crap can be enjoyable when you're slaying with a group of dudes.
So much this. The reality is you dont need any new game. You can play whatever if its with friends. The problem is merely the trend chasing guys in your group trying to have everyone hop on latest fad with them.
blizzard has made a scientific/biological phenomenon with D4 - they actually created a game that makes people doze off and fall asleep.
im not shitting you - check the reviews.
>every single negative review has 1 thing in common:
>"i was falling asleep while playing, what the hell?"
i figured it out.
i also was falling asleep after 10-15 minutes of playing the beta.
i just stopped for a minute, and then it hit me.
>the grey filters, the flute and violin in the background
these are literally thing a doctor will tell you to look at and listen to, to fall asleep.
its fricking amazing how absolutely hard blizzard fricked this up.
THEY MADE A SLEEP INDUCING GAME BY ACCIDENT, AND DONT EVEN REALIZE THIS.
I know right. You know the game is shit. You know it's fomo. You know you don't like it. You know that at the absolute best it'll get better in a few years of patches and dlcs and seasons but it still won't be great. Still you end up asking yourself "oh frick it why not?"
Don't get me wrong, I hate what Western developpers have become these days and I haven't given money to any of the AAA studios in the past 3 years but gambling for a character/.jpg is hardly good behaviour either.
honestly i never paid much into gacha either i just find the thought process helps me stop giving money cause im already primed to not pay for gacha.
Works for you, but on this very board I've seen people spend over 2k$ to get their Jeanne alter :^)
Its more about do you wanna reward bad behavior? I always think i rather burn money on gacha that give blizz said money. This changes the choice from can you afford it to where do i better put the $70 in?
still not buying diablo 4
uhh.... guys....
im playing it right now, and there's no music in the game?
im running around in total silence, sometime i hear a flute for like 1-3 seconds, and thats it.
is the music bugged or something?
where is it?
Yeah there should be music. Its kind of....eastern european? Mongolian?
Maybe turn it off and on again.
i got to world tier 4 after 30 something hours and there is just nothing to fricking do
i unlocked all waypoints, finished all strongholds, discovered entire map
and there is just frickall to do, realistically the only content i can do is run nightmare dungeons over and over, thats it, thats all there is to the game now
I can run nightmare dungeons with increasingly higher tiers and find items with higher item power level, thats it
Its not like I spend my life savings on it or anything but I wish i could just refund it out of spite
d4 hasnt even started yet, their live service starts in like a month. nothing to judge yet. unless you are trying to claim seeing cutscenes means you've "beaten" the game lol
D2R was fun from minute one and seasons hadn't even started yet. If a game is good, you don't need to keep making excuses for it.
Same here
how do I get a gf like this?
Rock concerts, or medieval graveyards
I literally have the same looking character
actually everyone who has a girl necro made it to look like that, dat gothic vibe is just above the rest
>actually everyone who has a girl necro made it to look like that
Different face but yes. Same hairstyle, ashen skin.
>teleport
>1 hour cooldown
>flame shield, its active 2 seconds
>it has 90 hours cooldown
>frost nova
>50 hour cooldown
hey diablo 4.
can you FRICK OFF and let me have fun?
>no
uninstall it is, then.
ill just start up D2R and zip around with 0 cooldown teleport and spam 9000 motherfricking lightning novas (doesnt even exist in D4) because its FRICKING FUN.
>lightning novas (doesnt even exist in D4)
It literally does
>waaah my abilities have cooldowns now in this new videogame
You have to grind out armor and passives that reduce them, that's always been the whole deal.
>people hated diablo 3 for introducing moronic ass cooldowns to fricking everything, WoW style
>Diablo 4 doubled down on the cooldowns
>see, its ok, to make the game playable and fun, you only have to focus on and grind for every single piece of equipment that reduces the "no fun allowed", oops sorry, the "cooldown" meter.
>make cooldown worse than 3
>make uniques and legendaries that bring the cooldowns down to default diablo 3 levels
>everyone is ok with it
they literally used foot in the door sales tactics on in game skills and it worked. i applaud how evil blizzard is.
millenials be like
>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY FIRE
Yes.
what's wrong with it
>no cooldowns
>no generator generator generator bullshit
looks like a 10/10 game, ill take it.
get more ar
>zoomers have disposable income
>zoomers playing a game that last more than 20 min
okay
>most every skill sucks in d4
>fIx uR bUiLd n0oB
>no ar in d2
>REEEE THIS IS STUPID WHY CAN'T I MELEE
>minion
>debuff animation up until he lands a hit
You're not fooling me
Ugly miserable fatty spotted. Go back to pumping off to some NTR betabitch
reduced to a mind broken name caller LOL i accept your concession
sure, if the shit eaters are not so delusional as to deny valid criticisms. sure. but funny you bring up the concept of "think", shit eater
If the shit tastes delicious and is fun to play, does it really matter if it's shit? Something to think about.
played every Diablo game since I was 6 with my dad. I maxed out Rogue and now starting my Druid.
I'm still having a blast playing Diablo with my wife
i bought a $500 dota courier at one point... in my 20s.. I spent half that last friday getting my dirty butthole licked out by a 10/10 korean calling me oppa. Really puts things into perspective
zoomer tears are delishyz
>Hazade
>not Emilio
You were never going to make it, because you never even gave yourself the chance to do so.
emilio is a plebbitor meme
durga is what anons choose
I didn't care because frick rerolling
Emilio is the only correct choice, and you just outed yourself as a casual for not rerolling. You have forever forfeited any gamer cred you ever had the potential of getting.
didn't read
durga = bro
the only excuse for buying d4 is being a casual who takes months to get to max level. You have only yourself to blame
Not even shitposting, I bought the early access version, have been playing semi-regularly since, often many hours a day. I'm level 57, haven't finished the campaign yet. But found almost all altars, doing side quests all day which are surprisingly fun.
It doesn't bother or concern me that no life hardcore people are already bored. Season is coming soon, I have no clue what is there to doom and gloom about.
>57
>didnt finish 12h campaign you reach at lvl42
bullshiting or doing the 3 repeatable events in which case even more insane
I'm not bullshitting, I'm just doing all the side quests that I come across and try to fully explore and get the altars before moving on to the next.
I'm suspecting that people are skipping the sidequests or something if they are already done with the campaign, or literally nolifing this shit, because I don't understand how you can finish the campaign in 12h if you don't literally just beeline the campaign and ignore everything else.
you do you and its all good to explore the world at your own pace and whatnot. but items are capped at lvl 50 in wt2 and you don't advance to wt3 until you finish the campaign. So best to beeline the campaign and do all the sideshit after that.
I explored the whole map, did every sidequest I could find and ended up finishing the story at your level. Like 55-6. I also spent some time testing out theories on the mechanics so I probably ended the game a little high in level. The game assumes you'll end the game at 40 or so though. Also just letting you know, if you are still exploring, don't. World tier 3 events will get you exploring and while you are in WT1/2 you are exploring a field of nothing. If you are doing dungeons for aspects, don't. Wait til WT3 and do the ones the Tree wants you to do.
I can't do the quests man. They are so poorly written and the gameplay is follow this dude, open these boxes, go across the map and pick this and return it. I can't deal with it. Why can't I just farm the renown through dungeons?
Is it just me or have all games in general become less and less enjoyable as time goes by?
its not just you
theres no innovation in big titles and you always feel like you played that game a thousand times already
You make a $600m game you dont wanna risk 600m so you make safe zero innovation games. The fun stuff is found in AA not AAA
examples of good AA games?
last game i liked was Everspace 2.
Its a space shooter arpg so kinda related to thread topic. What i really liked was the flight controls.
that game's been on my radar
I didn't play the other one, but from what i read I'd like it. think ill get it, thanks
they have a free demo so you can try that for free first. Personally never heard of it before either but then got convinced by playing their demo.
>You make a $600m game you dont wanna risk 600m so you make safe zero innovation games. The fun stuff is found in AA not AAA
>AAA games have gotten worse but AA/indies have gotten better and the good ones are more plentiful.
What are AAA, AA and AA/Indies games?
AAA, AA, its just budget range term
there is no official lawyer definition of this but roughly if you spend 100m+ you are certainly AAA
while AA are closer around 20m and indies fall sub 5m.
Originally gaming copied the bond credit rating system where AAA refers to best safety trying to win investors as they went big budget and then the term stuck as classification for size.
Can someone tell me some big AAA games that failed to make their money back so I can laugh really hard when I'm stonerd? Thank you.
Bioshock Infinite.
Anthem.
Kingdoms of Amalur is probably the best example because it almost bankrupted an entire US State.
It's absolutely you. Games have been much better in 2017-2023 than they were from 2008-2015 on the whole.
AAA games have gotten worse but AA/indies have gotten better and the good ones are more plentiful.
its you, been gaming on my own hardware since 1986 and theres more, more variety and more better. you homosexuals are just depressive.
This sentiment is a hundred times more jaded and bitter than the most dissatisfied posts on this board, the only appropriate reaction to it is pity. No, games are not anywhere near as good as they were from roughly 1995-2005 and the occasional good title can't make up for that.
Its you. Get a life. You cant do the same thing every day for your whole life and contain the same passion and enjoyment all the way through. Diversify. Im 27 and have been gaming since i was 3. Still love it and can look forward to new games.
One thing that is undeniable, is that theres more shit to filter through now, buts thats more of a quantity issue.
I have not played any game for more than 5 years by now, maybe even 10.
That was the impression I got from the final games I played which I had only played after a while without playing and that was after a while with the games losing any fun they had, there was no enjoyment in them at all, I didn't get anything to look forward to in games then and still don't now. Maybe that was for the best though.
I just beat the Butcher solo. I'm very proud of that moment.
Say something nice
nice, always fun when he shows up even when you can facetank him the trophy is the biggest dissapoint though
Lmao, Imagine being proud of defeating a game character.
Lvl77, full reknown, nmd 51and cant wait to play later. Need a bigger stash though.
I put around 300 hours into D3 RoS and it was pretty fun so I can't comment on how bad it was. I recently got D2R and have been having a blast too bad it doesn't have a proper endgame but the latest update provided a new viable build after 20+ years though.
I fell for it too and I'm having a blast playing with my wife
i’m tired of laughing at subhuman morons like you who keep propping up this dogshit industry by paying them your hard earned money for predatory, exploitative garbage like this. i’m just tired of you at this point. have a nice day
This is the only game that I know of that is actual "it gets good after 60 hours" because you finally unlock tier 4 and can do challenging content when you run nightmare dungeon 10+ levels above you. But holy shit the story and the side quests are awful.
right is perfect though
That's not a fair comparison but a brutal mogging
But the stuff after the story sucks.
It doesn't get easier if you decide to do nightmares 10+ levels above yours. If you ask me what is the point since +3 is the best for leveling, I don't play it to level up. I play it to have challenge.
>can do challenging content
But the game gets easier when you first get into WT4 since you get access to the gear that your class was clearly designed around. Then it gets harder again when the fricked up armor scaling starts kicks in.
I haven't played these games so I don't get it, what do you mean by this image, and which one in the image is the worst?
>t. never played everquest
60 hours is short in comparison.
Im level 62 and the game is absolutely fricking unfun dogshit. POE is miles ahead where you can actually progress and get insanely powerful and smash shit. Here I just feel like im never gaining anything im just using ice shards and frost nova from level one. The build variet is fricking trash. There are like 3 builds max on each class and only 1 is good out of those. After the story ends the game is so fricking stale and unfun, they nerfed item drop and xp gain. I would start a second class already but im stuck grinding 1 hour for a level and i dont even feel like qnything changes. Dropped til blizzard fixes end game.
It's a MMO. You're supposed to grind your ass off for the smallest gains possible or pay your way with the battlepass but that's not implemented yet. People that think it isn't going to be filled with exp and magic find boosts out the wazoo are delusional.
Same here as a 62 Sorc. Just grinding away on Nighmare activities. The difficulty has stayed the same constantly. No fun period after getting a major power boost, everything just seems to keep up with you. I also have yet to see a Unique drop, which is fricking awful because the game has been advertising them to me since level 1 and I still only have the ring from Lilith.
Game needs a lot of work, Blizztrannies! The list of items needing reworking is growing pretty large!!
>Can't make hyper specific builds centered around one or two abilities but rather have to take a bit of everything to remain viable
Aaaand it's back to PoE for me
So did I im ashamed to say. Even if I avoided all the warcraft and other shit since diablo 3
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA you fricking moron
you'll fall for the next one too cattle.
>samegayging this hard
buyer's remorse kicking in hard for d4gays
>buyer's remorse
You poorgays keep saying the same thing. Oh noes. I spent $100! That's no money! I understand if it takes you 8 months of saving up your GBP, but this is a couple of hours work. I have no remorse for the money I've spent like I have none for the ants I step on.
>like I have none for the ants I step on.
I'm the any who will step on you through plagues and geat waves until you die and grovel in pain and misery and announce me Lord
To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.
>the moment the blizzshill is hurt he starts about his poorgay cope
Like clockwork.
Post proof of purchase.
He doesn't have one because people that hate on D4 haven't actually played it. Not even memeing--that's the case 95% of the time on Ganker.
I know this. The response is always "like I'd spend half my yearly income of 8000343290432 rupees on it."
Nice automated response only mere seconds after you got called out, Mr Shillstein.
So you don't own it. Here's mine.
I learned my lesson to never ever give money, or my time again in Blizzard. Meanwhile you are here flaunting your corporate battlenet account with only 1 contact in your friends list, your supervisor as if that's gonna prove you are not a shill, lmao. You can have a nice day tomorrow and no one will miss you.
I don't use social features in games. That's my brother, who I help out when he gets stuck. I'm 42 and too old for social media shit.
>no friends
>diablo only
looks organic lmao
See
And what Blizzard game was ever worth playing outside of the Diablo series? Hint: none.
No starcraft? No overwatch? I don't play those games but they are really popular. Since it is activision-blizzard no, warzone? That's fun even if I rarely touch it now. I mainly just resent having to have multiple launchers on PC.
Blizzard is known for making mediocre entries in established genres, letting normies flock to it, and destroying the genre. No more heroes-based FPSes due to Overwatch. No more MMOs due to WoW. No more RTS due to *craft. The exception is Diablo, where they captured lightning in a bottle with 2, dropped the ball completely with 3, and seem to have a direction with 4 that's pretty good so far.
My ass. Diablo 3's been great for years now and D4 is undoing the goodwill from the D3 course correction.
Diablo 3 was a chore. I just started playing it in December, and Torment is ungodly boring. But I get to do it over and over so I can unlock maybe some difficulty!
Anon, you're also describing Diablo 2.
d3 will never be good simply because of the cain death "scene"
>Oh no my heckin meme man.
What a dumb thing to get hung up on in a series with terrible writing.
>defending this design
Did they say what happened to the d3 protags?
The barbarian got a job as a mall Santa.
Just Crusader/Johanna who gets killed by Lilith brained bandits and succeeded by her girlfriend who inherits her name and then the scoundrel follower runs a town.
>all powerful nephilim gets got by some bandits
lol?
>Devils look WEIRD that's GAY
Yeah, I'll defend the weird demon fae looking like a weird fairy.
I miss my weird Sean Connery/Jimmy Stewart hybrid.
The content in D2 is limited in the quest/dungeon aspect, but the loot aspect is top notch, which is where D4 is lacking (but it can get better). Diablo games (if 1 and 2 are any indication) aren't really meant for the cutscene-loving quest heavy RPG crowd, but the autistically dedicated loot hunters. It's meant to be technical. When you start weighing it down with heavy story (which I admit D4 has problems with) and all this questing, you take away from the core.
It's not as bad as 3 with, what, 6 difficulty levels where it's functionally impossible to die. Also, 3 is painful to look at. It's like Jackson Pollock shit on my screen.
>but the loot aspect is top notch
The idea is cool but the execution is not. You will never see ber or whatever in your life. Things like enigma should be deleted from the game or the teleport should be given a cooldown. But it doesn't matter anyway, the loot system could be the best thing ever but there is no content to use it on. By the time you start building anything cool you don't need it anymore. I beat Baal in 40 seconds. No I beat him in 20 seconds. I beat him in 3 seconds. Okay, whatever. Give me an actual content, one that people don't want to just teleport through to punch a loot pinata at the end, and then we can talk. The game has cool mechanics but they are wasted on no content. Beat the campaign 3 times but this time you need elemental resists and elemental pierce and watch for the enchanted that blow up. Wow, so amazing.
Again, it's not for people who want new monsters and shit. It's for people who want bigger numbers. It's a min/max game.
>6 difficulty levels where it's functionally impossible to die.
Someone doesn't play Seasonal Hardcore.
But Diablo 2 is a shit game. It was good when it came out because there was nothing better. D4 is miles ahead of D2. D2 has no content. You are literally farming a shit mob with unique skin named Baal or Andariel over and over so you can farm them faster. That is the content. D4 has dungeons with proper mechanics and uber Lilith also has actual mechanics unlike D2 uber boss pinnacle mechanic is to switch to a bow and hit him once with it so he doesn't selfheal as you punch him down.
Starcraft was a pretty good RTS 25 years ago. Warcraft 3 was a really good RTS 20 years ago. Starcraft 2 was a decent RTS 13 years ago. Overwatch is a bad TF2 clone.
Remove Vuln in its entirety
Extracting an aspect adds it to the codex
There game fixed
Extracting aspect should add it to the codex with the strength at which it was extracted or at least improve the codex stats.
Frick no, the whole issue would be resolved by shedding the whole imprinting mechanic and allowing an imprinted aspect to be extracted as many times as needed.
Extracting infinitely or enchanting it from codex infinitely is the same thing but the 2nd option is better because there is no way to accidentally lose the affix.
It's different because if you imprint something on the codex then it is available on all characters, meaning that you're effectively levelling up the codex with your suggestion. This game does not need an additional meta progression system.
>This game does not need an additional meta progression system.
I would say it does because from 60 onward I have nothing to look for except maybe paragon but paragon is just tedious slow grind too. This would alleviate some of it by having multiple systems you level at the same time. And your idea is no different because I can just imprint the gear and pick it up with my alt anyway so it doesn't matter.
>from 60 onward I have nothing to look for except maybe paragon
So then every other character you get to level 60 can automatically have their aspects maxed out? This would not create more of a grind after 60, but less of one.
>your idea is no different because I can just imprint the gear and pick it up with my alt anyway
Once they're in the same level bracket, and assuming that the aspect you imprinted is eligible for their class. If you put it straight to codex you have access to super powerful legendaries at level 1. It's not the same thing at all lol
>So then every other character you get to level 60 can automatically have their aspects maxed out?
I can count with my fingers how many times I had a perfect affix drop. Maybe twice? And it drops for my class so it's not like I can level up my alt codex powers.
>If you put it straight to codex you have access to super powerful legendaries at level 1.
Your idea allows for this too but why does it even matter anyway? Are you going to have an alt of the same class? Because the affixes you drop are for the active class you play. If so, why would it be a problem? You already beat the game as necromancer dude, you should be given the choice to play a necromancer alt with the best version of the necromancer affixes, yes. You have to still drop good loot and enchant it.
>perfect affix drop
I'm not saying it will literally be perfect, but it would be significantly better than what is allowed at base.
>And it drops for my class so it's not like I can level up my alt codex powers
>Are you going to have an alt of the same class?
>Affixes you drop are for the active class you play
There are codexs that drop for all classes and you can still drop loot for other classes.
>Your idea allows for this too
No it doesn't, because nothing legendary is going to be usable at level 1 due to the restrictions inherent to the system
>If you beat the game as a necromancer, you should be given the choice to play a necromancer alt with the best affixes
You can literally do this already, provided that you saved your gear while levelling. The game also already provides 10 free levels to alts through renown, the experience is extremely easy. I feel like you haven't actually played an alt and are just speaking your ideals.
>There are codexs that drop for all classes and you can still drop loot for other classes.
But they are rare and it would be good to have something from the system shared too.
>No it doesn't, because nothing legendary is going to be usable at level 1 due to the restrictions inherent to the system
If I have unlimited affix transfer I take the affix and put it to lv1 item. It's the same gymnastics with same hops but it's an inventory item instead of a menu.
>You can literally do this already, provided that you saved your gear while levelling. The game also already provides 10 free levels to alts through renown, the experience is extremely easy. I feel like you haven't actually played an alt and are just speaking your ideals.
Reading comprehension? I was reacting to your "legendary at level 1" complaint not that something is or isn't in the game.
The game is and plays like a worse, more barebones version of retail WoW, except almost completely single player.
That's still better than every other Diablo. This series has always been crap.
Except if someone enjoyed previous ones for what they were. But if you like D4 you're way better off just playing retail wow since D4 is just a shittier version of it.
>start new character
>option to skip campaign
don't you get a bunch of extra exp from the campaign quests? Why would I want to do that
no, main story barely gives XP
It takes a frick long time and has no value when you could be getting renown
You can start farming legendaries through the tree of whispers right away. It gives you more XP and better loot than the campaign.
Diablows
how is lost ark any better
you literally have sets that you roll to upgrade with paid currency
you are sick
the bosses and the gameplay is better.
p2w is a different matter.
Seriously, here is your saving grace, Blizzard. Make items worth getting. You have to reset everyone's progress. Make items worth getting. Make them tradeable and add more uniques with better affixes. You have to completely revamp how the game is played. The combat is fun, but the items are the worst there has been. They're all worthless, throwaway garbage. There is no trading for OP GG gear like there should be. There should be a currency or a bartering system. Hell, I wouldn't even be opposed to you selling currency like Runescape sells bonds for gold. You have to make items drop for every character regardless of their class, and you have to have target farming.
The game is basically shit because the underlying foundation is shit and there's nothing anyone can do. It's so casualized and made for consoles that it's a lost cause. Don't even waste your time.
You didn't even play the game.
Most of the shills (for mud huts, I guess?) haven't. They come here and talk about how shitty the game is. If you ask for proof of purchase, they're like "lol not a goyslop consoomer paypiggie," which means they're turd worlders mad about the price.
I played the game. It's fricking dogshit
I didn't buy it.
I was super critical after the 3 betas and about all the open world stuff before as well. Diablo is alongside with Souls my favourite genre / game of all time. Especially 2 has a special place in my heart and it will never be the same again as back then. Sentiment wise. D2R is great and I’ve played it since launch but it’s getting tiresome.
I’ve to say I’m absolutely loving D4. It’s an awesome game and I’m having a blast all the time, also the launch was pretty decent.
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>SAVE ME, TYRAEL SAMAAAAAA!!!!!
What happened?
killed by lillith, like you didn't see that from 100km away
>impales lilith with spear
>turns arround
>lilith uses no u
>its super effective!
>litlith impales tyrael with same spear
>unlike lilith cant shake it off
It was a critical of course and of course lilith was in her homeland Hell
He pierced her in her barren womb. She pierced him through the heart. Why? Because he didn't actually want to kill her. It's 2deep4u lore.
Maybe if he wasn't such a whiny baby and didn't kill Rathma Lilith wouldn't have hated him so much.
His mind was raped when he was imprisoned in hell. His headcanon was he could come home if only he destroyed his creation so he just sat in a room jerking off on his own paintings.
Urinal is worst angel. Bring back Tyrael. I have a hunch he will appear in the future dlc
>can't shake it off
She's dumber than a dog with brain damage, but I love her so much.
She's not dumb she's a Mastermind.
I watched a cinema without any real context and it seemed to be basically this. It seemed really forced. Lilith is cute so I will play her game anyways.
>The entire Angiris Council watching from heaven as Inarius begs them to save his faithless ass.
When an angel dies the crystal shits out a new one.
There is no endgame.
This is even worse than d3 at launch imo because while that at launch also didn't have proper endgame at least it was next to impossible at the highest difficulty so you had that to keep your playing.
Unlike d3 however I don't expect d4 to ever improve because all the talent have left the company so there is no a soul left in there that can actually fix this.
Thank you for saying the right thing
Did you kill uber Lilith? That is currently the endgame goal. Yes, there should be more bosses like Duriel and Andariel, but there is a goal for you unlike in D2 which has nothing but farming shit glorified mobs so you can farm them faster.
Why can I not play Paladin? Is it because Blizzard wants it in the expansion so that people will buy the expansion? Basically the most popular class is left out so that people have to buy the expansion? What if Blizzard had just blown everybody's minds by making Paladin included from the beginning? No, that's way too virtuous.
So what happens during Seasons? Is there a leaderboard or is it all a waste of everyone's time, doing everything all over again for no reason?
Is a leaderboard not also a massive waste of time
It's competition, which is very fun for me, because I got Number 2 Crusader once without farming Paragon on another class
Dude, it's like Blizzard and Blizzardshills just DO NOT GET IT. THEY HAVE RUINED THIS FRANCHISE HOLY FRICK
The earth dries up and withers,
the world languishes and withers,
the heavens languish with the earth.
5 The earth is defiled by its people;
they have disobeyed the laws,
violated the statutes
and broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse consumes the earth;
its people must bear their guilt.
>6 Therefore a curse consumes the earth;
>its people must bear their guilt.
They make shitty games because they denied Christ
you pip
Diablo is a boomer game leave our boomer games alone, zoomers.
Told you it was going to be shit, yet you chose to believe in goyslop. That's entirely on you.
I used to be addicted to Diablo 3 and I'm skipping Diablo 4. 'Playing' these games is like working for free.
Who was more annoying, Inarius or Prava?
Inarius, because Prava was sexo. Also, Inarius stabbed demon mommy.
>Prava was sexo
Really? I think you're the only person who thinks that.
The darkie chicks (Taissa as well) were pretty hot, especially with the accent factored in.
Taissa was fine. But Prava...?
Sexy baldie.
How the frick did she survive the demons piling up on her in hell? Did they decide alive Prava is worse for humanity than dead Prava?
Her plot armor had an immunity bubble.
>Prava survived that
>Donan was killed because a spooky skeleton grabbed his arm
Sick Jojo reference. That's cap.
>literally just Calypso from PotC 3
Nah, Calypso had this creepy sexiness and the psycho makeup that made her seem like she lived on the outskirts of town and everyone avoided her. Taissa seems like a witch that would be like the respected village mother.
Prava is the kind of character you love to hate, because even if they're awful they're a true believer and utterly devoted to whatever bullshit they've decided. Inarius is annoying because he's a waffler.
Both are still somehow better written characters than Lilith.
Hey, frick you. Lilith is the best.
So was Inarius getting stabbed by his own spear the
>A spear of light piercing hatred's heart
Part of the prophecy?
Lilith did mention him having always been full of hate, or something like that.
That's kind of how I interpreted it, but MC mentioned her being wounded as well. I see her coming back as an ally in future content.
She definitely wasn't stabbed in the heart though. He might have been.
I hope she does. I can see Rathma thinking his daddy who hates him is closer hatred than his big mommy who loves him. So I doubt she is hatred is hatred in that story, so I think you're right that if it's not Inarius it's probably Mephisto and not Lilith.
That or Tyrael will show up later to stab Mephisto. I doubt Blizzard has even decided yet.
It doesn't matter when demons can respawn. Mephisto even wanted to be captured to the soulstone I'd say. Blizzard always writes this complete nonsense type of tweest.
I just want my demon mommy sexo.
Can I find an active clan in Diablo 4? Anyone link me or tell me the name or who I can request?
I'm level 45, doing Act V
I shouldnt craft any legos right? its probably too early to spend those resources
can I start crafting them around level 50 WT3?
Just don't make lego rings. You get shit armor and weapons regularly and have a good amount of materials on hand. Rings and amulet materials are a little more scarce and should be saved for major power gains.
cheers anon!
>brokebrained dead inside homosexuals play the game 120 hours a day
>wow it's boring and I'm sick of it
Gaming discourse is absolutely saturated with these clowns. Yes, there can be a gaming discourse. D4 is without a doubt the best looking and best feeling ARPG ever released. Leave itemization for the dopamine monkeys to cry over. You can't speedrun films or real literature but you can speedrun games, and it's something this medium has to take into account because it's choking the life out of it.
shill less obvious blizzdrone.
Not him but D4 is objectively an 8/10 game at least. Ganker just hates everything Blizzard even if it's good. This shithole still hates D2R because of the character selection screen you spend 1 second looking at.
>Ganker just hates everything Blizzard even if it's good.
Explain people saying Diablo 2 Resurrected is good, D3 post-2014 is good, and Immortal's campaign is perfectly fine but the rest sucks.
wow you posted a picture. You're delusional if you don't think D4 looks good, feels good, and sounds good. Yeah builds are railroaded, enemy variety isn't where I want it to be, and the new itemization systems takes some getting used to but "dogshit" and "worst blizzard game" is just memeposting
wow you posted a shitpost
its worse even compared to immortal which is free. Cope & seethe homosexual
le hyperbolic internet man
How tiresome
autobiographies dont belong here homosexual
There was an attempt
I'd switch D3 with D4.
Nothing will ever beat how scummy D3 launched with it's RMAH and all the shit Jay Wilson was spitting out of his mouth.
rmah made players rich, it was a lottery system so it doesnt get hate cause there is nothing to hate when you pulled $300+ out of it.
D4 in contrast is money going to blizz only. Zero benefit towards you as the player.
Nah frick you, they added a rmah to the game it doesn't get worse than that.
I just called my bank and disputed the charge
Path of Exile is free.
Bro.
Fell for what? It's a solid and fun ARPG.
I fell for it but managed to sell my copy
Going to pick up FFX/X-2 HD and XII Zodiac Age instead
>>Fell for it
Huh? How?
>Campaign is good
>Campaign and side content is more gameplay time than most games
>$70, cost of a new game
>Well worth the gameplay hours per dollar
The only people who fell for the meme are the ones who were b***hing about it being a live service game and then that it ended up being a bad live service game.
As a single player campaign game it was great and the best Diablo.
>Campaign is good
I wish this was true.
The parts where anything is happening are good. Falls flat by chasing Elias for 4 acts though. Dude was a 1 act villain.
But nothing is happening. Oh no I am so sad a Black person I saw on the screen for 30 seconds was turned into a demon. Oh no they are going to summon Andariel cities will burn jk she is dead in 5 seconds lmao. Look there is this badass angel and demon mommy oh well here is cool cutscene of humans fighting demons and then complete moronation killing the angel in a cinematic instead of us doing something. Oh no we lost the soulstone but wait I am the hero I can fight Lilith in hell sure that works. Oh this 15 years old chink? Let her decide what to do with prime evil trapped in a pokeball.
Oh, when I say things happening I only mean the parts in the end. I get that you think they're moronic too, but it's not as bland as the whole rest of the game before that.
This whole chain started on "campaign is good" and now it's "oh the 1% of the campaign is good". Sure.
You are all missing the key thing about Diablo 4, which is that I want Lilith to whisper things to me while she steps on me.
game is good, endgame is as good/bad as the genre allows I.E: kill shit a million times to get better gear to kill the same shit a million times but faster.
its always been like this, anybody that complains about the endgame is a tourist
it's literally just poe and mmo shitters complaining about the endgame cycle. diablo was always meant to be a "finish story a couple times and drop it" game in my eyes, not this endless seasonal grind garbage
>kill shit a million times to get better gear
...but you don't get better gear. That's literally the fricking point. You're not crafting better gear, you're not trading for better gear, and better gear doesn't drop from more difficult enemies.
elite mobs do drop gear more often, what do you mean?
>elite mobs do drop gear more often
But it's the same fricking gear. It's not BETTER. There is only one tier of item in the game, and that is "Legendary", and all you do is have an infinite amount of them funneled into your inventory until maybe you eventually get one that says "+5% Damage, +1 to <One of the three skills your class uses>" and that's the best item you will ever have because that's the best it can possibly be.
You can't roll or craft special or perfect gear for your build, and you can't sell or trade anything you have to someone who might want it. Also, there's no special or unique gear with unique or build-enabling properties. There's no discovering interactions to create new ways to play skills, and there's no way to make your "build" (Just you choosing 1 of 3 skills to use) different.
Is this a meme? Are you people just pretending to be this moronic?
>it's not an improvement if it's the same stat names! ignore the numbers!
schizo moment
>You can't roll or craft special or perfect gear for your build
But you can. You can roll different stats.
>you can't sell or trade anything you have to someone who might want it
But you can. There are entire websites dedicated to this.
Also legendaries are primarily for affixes. If they have good stats that's a nice bonus. But you can always transfer the affix to a rare with good stats and make it a legendary.
Smart puzzles for smart gamers
I like it and I don't give a flying frick about Ganker going completely schizo over it. I played the beta test slam, liked it, bought it, and now I like it more. Simple.
One of you meme-posting shills who have dedicated your entire life to trying to shitpost about how much you love this game:
Drop the jokes for a second and tell me for real, what exactly are you DOING in it? You've finished the campaign, you've got your gear, so now what? You play the same level-scaled endgame dungeons over and over for a few paragon points that don't matter because content scales to you anyway? You can't sell or trade gear to people for profit, bosses don't drop unique or special items so you don't have a reason to farm them, and there's no cosmetics or challenges to earn.
So what exactly are you planning on spending the rest of your life doing in this game?
>wordswordswords
i'm playing a video game, what else do you want me to say?
>You've finished the campaign, you've got your gear, so now what? You play the same level-scaled endgame dungeons over and over for a few paragon points that don't matter because content scales to you anyway? You can't sell or trade gear to people for profit, bosses don't drop unique or special items so you don't have a reason to farm them, and there's no cosmetics or challenges to earn.
I dropped it after campaign completion but what's your point? You understand the gameplay loop of every hack and slack is just doing the same shit over and over on differing difficulties, right?
>You understand the gameplay loop of every hack and slack is just doing the same shit over and over on differing difficulties, right?
Anon. You play games to chase things you can do in those games. We're not fricking having some philosophical discussion about "lol it's just pixels in a video game it's not real". Within the context of the game you payed 100 FRICKING DOLLARS TO PLAY, you can't even find the most basic of things to actually chase or work towards to keep you playing because none exist.
The average ARPG loop actually has fricking things for you do to. It has goals to chase, items to work for, bosses to farm and craft gear in order to power up to overcome. But Diablo, a 100 FRICKING DOLLAR GAME, literally doesn't even have the most basic form of that. In fact, it actually has negative amounts of that, because there isn't anything unique, powerful, or otherwise worthwhile to even put your time into in the game to begin with.
You can beat the campaign and all the content in the game exactly the same with a level 1 "bad build" as you can with a level 100 "good build".
i know you don't play the game and parrot opinions from Ganker so i'll let you in on this one secret: uniques
>you can beat the campaign as a level 100
thank you for proving yourself to be full of shit
>The average ARPG loop actually has fricking things for you do to. It has goals to chase, items to work for, bosses to farm and craft gear in order to power up to overcome.
But, anon, D4 has all of that besides crafting (which is just a slot machine in POE and useless in D3). It's okay to not like it. I've aged out of the gameplay loop of these types of games. But the loop is there and the same as every other game in its genre.
>besides crafting (which is just a slot machine in POE
First, it's not a slot machine, because one of the major parts of PoE crafting is making your rolls as deterministic as possible.
But second, saying "Well, you know it doesn't have any actual gear crafting, but come on that's not really needed! You can just...transfer a skill mod to another piece of gear! That's basically the same! LOL!" is the most meme garbage nonsense anyone has ever pretended to think.
Pretending you don't play it while you defend it is not a covert way to shill. You're still trying to sell the product.
>Reddit spacing
>Creating strawmen arguments for others and "beating" them
>Fervently defending PoE
D4 may be shit but it's still better than PoE
It's Runescape all over again. Thirdies are attacking D4 because it costs their yearly salary. PoE is free, so it's automatically the flagship game of their village.
>flagship game of their village
I thought the blizzcuck cope was path of exile actually takes more money than diabo 4 costs in stash tabs to play
why do you post so much and say so little? we all know you don't own the game because the shit you spew isn't even accurate about endgame.
Agter you finish the campeign several very important things happen, but clearly you don't know because you're a moron tourist.
>several very important things happen
You mean the enemies get a little bit tougher but still scale to your level. Yes, very important.
I make a new character and play a new build just like in Diablo 2. End game dungeons don't scale, either. You select the difficulty.
>and play a new build
A what?
was this one of you
Corpse Bows are fricking bullshit tbh
>always off-camera
>virtually silent
>can do at least half your health in one hit with no warning
Same
Quit after reaching WT3
No real engaging content
The hunt for +%damage really is not enjoyable here
>No real engaging content
Beat capstone WT4 at 50 then if it's so easy.
I'm convinced Blizzard devs and hired underlings are mostly comprised of new people zoomers who never even played or only understand D2 in a microcosm.
Pretty much. Blizzard understands how the online defense force shit works.
>make the game a semi-mmo
>no global/lfg chat or group finder
what did Blizzard designers mean by this?
someone could say a forbidden word, better ban all talk
Even weirder because it's a live service game.
>Saving Diablo for DLC
I get it. Reasonable enough.
>Also saving HNIC Tyrael for DLC
Unacceptable.
>Buying any Blizzard game at launch in 2023
lol, some people do just deserve to get scammed out of their money.
FOTM dont feel bad about it
This thread is stuffed with morons trying to convince themselves not to spend 70 dollars, they're literally inside their own heads and virtually foaming at the mouth with hysteria over it. They literally cannot mentally cope that other people are having a blast with the game lmao.
We get it You're poor and 70 dollars will unironicly ruin you. We can tell because you're about to develop a clinical condition over it.
back to the kosby suite with you
kotick needs his dick cleaned
>btw diablo 3 wont lag like d2 did cause its using the new anti-lag technology =D
Gave me chuckle, internet was still naive. I miss it.
I spent $20 in April on D2R + D3 and $70 on TotK. Don't see why I should buy D3: Worse Edition for $70.
>doing campaign (level 50 char) shit takes forever to kill
>shit doesn't record so i can't upload to jewtube
>level up alt to record again (level 28)
>zone its level 36
where did the scaling go?
scaling is only up not down
its even shittier than expected
I haven't given Blizzard any money since I heard Diablo 3 would have a damn in-game shop for real money, taking away the entire point of the whole game in talking with your friends about what item drops you got.
is pic related diablo 4 or a different game?
no that's poe
ah, you're in luck. i know what poe means, you meant to write "that's path of exile". thanks
Was it autism?
just reminding you that if you're trying to help it's not good to use abbreviations, thanks tho
H-he's fast.
Would Imperius have easily defeated Lilith if he wasn't busy laughing at Inarius?
Imperius jobbed to fem-diablo, my dude
Fem-Diablo was 7 Prime Evil Dragon balls in one. She was basically Captain Planet.
For a cuck who loves to pretend to be tough, he sure seems to enjoy just sitting watching Hell do whatever it wants.
>The greatest warrior in all of creation
>Jobs in 10 seconds to Diablo
>Only shows up in RoS to steal your kills
0:16, that hip movement, they didn't make this a woman did they?
D3 is just world of warcraft, change my mind
Considering WoW was just Diablo 2 in a bigass multiplayer instance with slightly more defined rules, I can't.
>Hey bro, you wanna play werewolf? That's okay, just spec into poison damage
Rabies is a rancid meme that needed to die all the way back in D2, yet Blizzshart doubled down on it.
I still think it's hilarious that you fight Duriel, and the wanderer is like
>Kills Duriel in a random back alley
>Was that a lesser evil?
>Oh well whatever, who knows
Meanwhile Lorath was flipping out about Andariel being summoned
>Duriel didn't say "Looking for Lilith?" as he popped out of the ground
Missed opportunity right there
>no idea who that was
>eh who cares
>YOU HAVE SLAIN A LESSER EVIL
>QUEST XP REWARD
>QUEST GOLD REWARD
Soulless. What about 3 scrolls of id, a worthless rare, a stamina pot and the reward being you having killed a cool boss and surviving?
I like how there's just no setup or anything for him either, he's just there in the cuck pits under Caldeum.
Andariel needed a host to be summoned and a bunch of setup and whatnot, Duriel is just there already.
>Souls style in Diablo universe
..That would be pure kino.
After a point, my dood was raping all the bosses without using potions. He's slowly turning into Goku.
Not only did I fall for it and bought it.
I am now playing the damn thing and every session there comes a point where I'm thinking I would rather be playing PoE right now.
What kind of fricked up game did Blizzard create that is addicting and unbearable at the same time
>keeps playing the game despite wanting to play poe
then play poe? what's the issue?
Don't try to reason with addicts
has to play it now or he admits he got scammed
I didn't find anything addicting about this game--quite the opposite actually. Every second I spent playing this, I felt like shutting it off and/or going to sleep. I tried to get addicted to it but it just made me want to play D2. I'm sure it would have been better with a party but solo is terrible.
>500 replies for this slop
Yearly reminder Blizzard will never stop their scummy business practices because paypiggies like OP exist and are the cancer destroying gaming
>this game sucks
>haven't played or bought, but take my word for it
>sirs, play PoE. it's free and my shit covered streets are filled with discussion of the needful that can be done in it
poe seems to be living rent free
>which is good since all my rupees are spent on internet service so i can ask for bobs and vagena
Ironic, since PoE shilling is almost non existent on Ganker while your slop got an aggressive paid for 1 week non-stop spam campaign, no doubt partly pajeet as well
I definitely am a pajeet. A pajeet with a 4090. I shit in the streets and live better than you, who has to b***h about people buying games he can't afford. Do the needful and send me bobs and vagena.
You're still playing slop my man, not sure what that simple statement got you so riled up. There are $70 games worth their money, D4 is not one of them, shit-for-brains. Why are you still here? Done with your 10-hour campaign thus the game already?
Who paid $70 for Diablo 4? They must be slightly less poor than you.
>Play Time : 1 day 7 hours 20 minutes
Not bad considering I'm not even close to done.
D3's Male Wizard has the same voice actor as Alucard.
I personally don't feel as bad because this was my very first (and last) blizzard game. Never touching anything from this shitty company again.