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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >throw massive shit at the wall: the mod
    at least it has some kino moments

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's not for balanced gameplay, it's for scratching that 40k itch

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This mod s genuine trash its unbalanced and bloated to hell which makes it super laggy

        Its nothing like 40k like why the frick do all these factions have random bloat and garbage they dont actually use in the lore

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >why the frick do all these factions have random bloat and garbage they dont actually use in the lore

          Most of the things you think they don't use are mostly from the Apocalypse books from around third edition. Check the old chapter approved from 2004 if you don't believe me.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Advanced b8.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >40k
          >consistent lore
          Funny.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If your mod doesn't have literally every single Russ variant, I do NOT want it.
      I need a Russ for every possible situation. Swarms? Got a Russ for it. Heavy tanks? Got a Russ for it. Entrenched infantry? Of you bet your ass we got a Russ for it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      don't care, if you don't like nukes and giant things beating the shit out of each other you are a low test homosexual

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        they could do that without putting in moronic shit like that pic related in

        I think that's all Unifications territory. UA is at least reasonable in its autism.

        or the Salamander daemonettes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          UA doesn't have that in there, that's unification you dipshit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Children so high test

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Hot take but nukes are a good thing because not only are they an option that requires you to re prioritize your targets, but also reduces the amount of superfluous gameplay or tedium through having a deadlocked match. It forces one side to push or one side to act, and prevents turtling.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Strategy game modding is mostly bloatware

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        There literally isn't a bigger meme word in gaming than "bloat"
        >Is...is that OPTIONS??
        >AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME Black personMAAAAAAAN
        End your life.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          if you knew a thing about game design you'd understand what it means

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Bloat is extremely overstated usually. That said, having a bunch of races that are all space marines, chaos space marines, or guard clones is an issue

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's a Warhammer mod anon

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That has been GW's strategy for awhile

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you're playing Ork v Ork, just spam infinite basic slugga and shoota squads in the enemy direction

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's what the AI does to me with their infinite pop
      I'm stretched thin

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Have they added the Nundams and the moronic living saint yet?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think that's all Unifications territory. UA is at least reasonable in its autism.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's typical modder 'tism. If you play it just forget about Children in general and if you really want your chaos fix go for World Eaters. Some of their models are a crapshoot but the newer stuff they're going to release is better by far. Finally going to get my phoenix lords in dawn of war.

        UA doesn't have that in there, that's unification you dipshit.

        Apocalypse doesn't have the same problems as Uni but one nitpick I could never let go of is how they took the perfectly good banshees, gave them a manish figure, and switched their idle animation to something that reminded me of a gorilla. Just a pointless change, especially considering that their model looked lower quality than the relic one.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Everything that is unique to Uni either deserves to be in UA because of them making it as a promise in UA’s name, is from Creative Commons and therefore they do not have a right to deny it to UA, is taken from another mod or game or is fanfic.

          Uni is run by the most corrupt and soulless of dev teams who only made Uni into this bastardized UA clone because they had one petty fight with Cylarne.

          I hope they get what’s coming to them

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            couldnt you just decompile Uni, carve out all the OC and either upload that for use with UA or frankenstein it into UA directly?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Cylarne's a fricking moron that thinks he's clever for posting blurry "teasers" after years of little progress. At best they're all dipshits who are too autistic to stay on the same mod but it's fricking ridiculous to pretend Cylarne's any better.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I never said Cylarne is faultless but that the guy’s like a benign tumor versus Uni being a fricking malignant one

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Meh, I'll accept that anon. I don't get into the drama shit and I'm generally just salty at Cylarne for being a self-absorbed frickwit when all I want to see is the mod. Uni folks aren't much better with their autistic "muh original work, do not steal" speil but I've got a tolerance for it as long as they release shit.

                The Inter-modder drama is all autistic at the end of the day and I can't be arsed to give a shit about it one way or the other.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                For me, Cylarne is inarticulate and autistic but I don’t think he actively means harm.

                The Uni devs consistently have shown themselves to be malicious and bad faith actors who, for all their artistic talent, can’t design or hold consistent to make good design. Say what you will about Ultimate Apocalypse but at least it nails the spectacle and fun over balance philosophy. Unification isn’t even unified because half of the race mods aren’t in and some races are clearly more supported than others

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think Cylarne let the Mandalore vid get into his head and I believe them when they say he was sitting on his hands waiting for them to come up with stuff that he could pimp out for his shitty youtube channel. When I saw a video of his that begins with something like an edited together montage of YouTubers jacking Cylarne off I gave up any hopes for the mod.

                "Artistic" is the wrong way to put it for Uni as like seventy percent of it is just ports from DoW2/3. That makes the whole donut steel shit even more annoying. I can understand on some level Age of the Ring getting mad people steal their shit because some of the models they make aren't even based on something from the movies. But fricking ports? Get real. The Maugan Ra model they've got is actually from a newer member of their team that's churning out a lot of their original stuff.

                I will say I prefer Uni's scale to Apocalypse just because Apocalypse gets to a point where stuff like fielding ground troops feels completely unfeasible, at least for Eldar.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Warekit is an artist, but I think that if a lot of the people who are working on the mod knew just how shitty the people on it were and how they're killing the dawn of war community, they'd leave

                https://www.deviantart.com/warekit

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I will say I prefer Uni's scale to Apocalypse just because Apocalypse gets to a point where stuff like fielding ground troops feels completely unfeasible, at least for Eldar
                This is one of the reasons I switched, plus UA felt like it had a bunch of superfluous shit and wasn't polished (item description missing. Go tell your mama)
                Also say what you will about unification, but they at the very least are transparent about what they're working on, how long it's taking and consistent with development updates. Cylarne going radio silence for months on end only to release a glorified patch that adds basically nothing is the reason I switched over.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think Uni has much more superflous shit in the sense that most of your fights will be space marine on space marine, chaos vs chaos, etc. I feel like most of the time I'm playing against clones, rather than fully realized factions

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I will say I prefer Uni's scale to Apocalypse just because Apocalypse gets to a point where stuff like fielding ground troops feels completely unfeasible, at least for Eldar.
                I personally like that, feels like a proper escalation. As long as you aren't outright turtling you should get plenty of use of ground troops in earlier stages of the game anyway.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Warekit is an artist, but I think that if a lot of the people who are working on the mod knew just how shitty the people on it were and how they're killing the dawn of war community, they'd leave

                https://www.deviantart.com/warekit

                Speaking of warekit...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                explain why weebs aren't 300% worse than furries.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's amazing how many people Uni has already alienated, which they accuse Cylarne of all the time.

                Just yesterday they kicked off Comrade Ork, who was behind the Death Korps mod and disenfranchised the man behind Dawn of War battles because they were mocking his dead mother behind his back.

                And then there's the guy behind the Beastmen mod who was told to essentially frick off because he needed help, but it wasn't space marines or guard.

                Cylarne is just incompetent, but he didn't do this shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I just don't give a shit about modder's high school drama. Looking at it right now it seems like a conversation between two insane people, replete with cries of "You are no longer my brother!" like they're in some kind of Shakespearean play. It's impossible to take seriously. Modding breeds the worst prima donnas but discord turns them into infants.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Are they dyslexic, high or writing in code in that pic?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Doomslayer is both under the age of 18 and brazilian.

                I just don't give a shit about modder's high school drama. Looking at it right now it seems like a conversation between two insane people, replete with cries of "You are no longer my brother!" like they're in some kind of Shakespearean play. It's impossible to take seriously. Modding breeds the worst prima donnas but discord turns them into infants.

                >I just mod for the sake of modding. Never for the fame or money.

                I find this immensely funny because he has a public paypal and criticizes anyone who points it out

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >under the age of 18 and brazilian
                That explains why most of their "mod" looks like it was made by little Timmy's cousin who lives in the sticks. Turns out, it literally is.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kek's paypal is public (I won't link it because I don't want to be accused of doxxing), but on it is his name.

                The dude's a doctor who graduated college in 2008. He's well over 30 but has the mental maturity of a fourteen year old

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is he some sort of moronic ESL like his cronies? The homosexual stinks of butthurt belt, potato and turnip.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Just link it, homie. We shoot people on this forum. Doxxing ain't nothing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This isn't reddit, there's no rules against that shit here unless it's a personal army request.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Personal principle. It's not that hard to find if you look at some old UA posts with 3D models.

                Besides, it's not relevant for to criticize his behavior, just for context. I have no interest in harassing the man, just warning others of his antics.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like you're a personal homosexual to me.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If that's your opinion, so be it

                As much as I dislike the man and his actions, I know where the line is. and I wouldn't even reveal it if not for his upfront hypocrisy (criticizing Cylarne for making money and then having a paypal is its own problem) and duplicity that will the modding scene die.

                There's a reason neither UA nor Uni could make the most popular mods by vote and its because it fractured the community and disenfranchised so many. Where once there was a unified community who all loved the game and would let others use their work with credit, there is now only tribalism, infighting and pettiness, with pride and ego coming before quality.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >adheres to reddit rules
                >reddit spacing
                Go and stay go.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I've never used Reddit

                Kekoulis, however:
                https://www.reddit.com/user/Kekoulis/

                Yes. This prick is a redditor

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                why is someone refusing to dox another so offensive to you?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why does he call using paragraphs reddit spacing?

                I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the shed.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You can't give someone an ultimatum if you don't have leverage over them. It's like squirting a water pistol at the sun.

                Unironically the entire thing is based around power politics, which is ironic given it's a fricking modding community around a decade and a half old game.

                Plebbit troon Black. I will hang you on your own guts.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                A paragraph needs three sentences.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Your English Teacher lied to you. A paragraph just needs to express an idea. It could technically be one sentence if need be. All a sentence consists of is a set of related thoughts and ideas.

                The arbitrary 3-5 sentence limit is so high school teachers don't have to put up with a prick who turns in 4 paragraphs each consisting of 5 words or 4 paragraphs across 6 pages. There is no official convention or rule in English that paragraphs must be a specific length or size.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                APA says otherwise.
                https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/academic_writing/paragraphs_and_paragraphing/paragraphing.html
                >Aim for three to five or more sentences per paragraph.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's not official convention. It's just writing advice. They literally admit it:
                >Paragraphs are units of thought with one adequately developed idea. Listed here are some rules of thumb to use when paragraphing. As your writing improves, you'll be able to break these "rules" to meet your own needs. Until then, these suggestions can be helpful.

                Read the sources you provide.

                Anyway, Unification sucks. All show, no substance

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >APA is not official convention, it's just writing advice
                The APA method of writing is required in order to be published in scholarly work in a substantial number of fields.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                go back homosexual

                >Rules is in quotation marks
                >It is expressly said to be rules of thumb, not actual conventions

                Dumbass

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                go back homosexual

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The funniest thing is they are paranoid schizos and whenever you shit on cylarne you get called a unibot, and actual unibots call you a UAgay if you so much as say you're not a fan of their piss daddy. It's like burgerstan politics, except somehow even worse.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                My opinion is Cylarne is just incompetent and kinda cringe, but I can tolerate that, especially because from a design perspective, UA may be a bit unblanced and bloated but it gets the design psychology right, whereas Uni doesn't.

                The matches in UA are more engaging because of the moments of high tensions and the perpetual trying to out-perform your competitors and always being saving up for a unit or research, with little down time or micro.

                The issue with the Uni devs is they can't take criticism and brush it all off, and any dissent or desire for them to change their ways is going to make them ban you because everyone has to suck the dicks of all the artists they have to work on their mod out of fear they'll leave or ban them.

                It's unhealthy.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                UA is one big homogenous bloated turd, uni is all the shit left from dogs and hobos collected from around the street and piled up. The moral is, in the end you get shit either way.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No, it isn't. You're just making shit up
                >I don't want to be accused of doxxing
                Is as fricking believeable as
                >I don't want to reveal my sources.

                Go frick yourself.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I literally told you where my source is. You can put in the leg work

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This thread from a few months ago goes in depth with it

                https://arch.b4k.co/vst/thread/918540/#918540

                This is just more gossipy bullshit without screen caps, first hand posts or videos to support it.
                >two morons don't like each other and one of them said the other was mean
                What a shock

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >without screencaps,first hand posts or videos to support it

                He didn't read the thread

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                "Just yesterday they kicked off Comrade Ork, who was behind the Death Korps mod"
                WTF are you talking about, all he was behind was just the idea of it, nothing more. That guy wasn't even able to do in 1,5 of a year was made in just 2 weeks by two leading mod team members. All he can be credited for is delaying the release thanks to his incompetence. And first of all that fricker deserved it for leaking the mod to his mentally unstable boyfriend.
                You dont know a shit about these two so shut the frick up with your moronic BS

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I found the glowie

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kek sucks rotten leper dicks, and so do you. Frick off and deep strike off a chair.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hahaha, thats all you are capable of? Good then, Im not planning on fricking off or doing the other thing, but as you are already thinking about it feel free to do so meanie 🙂

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Go write another wall of b***hing in nootworld, I dare you. Yoba has a point and you know it, you guys are mega asshats.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Tard-re

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                "Just yesterday they kicked off Comrade Ork, who was behind the Death Korps mod"
                WTF are you talking about, all he was behind was just the idea of it, nothing more. That guy wasn't even able to do in 1,5 of a year was made in just 2 weeks by two leading mod team members. All he can be credited for is delaying the release thanks to his incompetence. And first of all that fricker deserved it for leaking the mod to his mentally unstable boyfriend.
                You dont know a shit about these two so shut the frick up with your moronic BS

                Apparently because of this, the time in question aren't doing anymore standalone mods, so this is really going to kill the modding scene as they keep centralizing everything into Uni and won't give anyone but their ingroup the ability to create what they want.

                Fricking disgraceful

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Also the chaplin model they claim is their's is from Orange blue on tts

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What scares me is that if they get too big for the birches, they may just remove all of the Tabletop Sim models or SFM models because they are too focused on trying to monopolize their assets.

                It is the definition of scumfrickery

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And if you think they couldn't get more degenerate...Felinids...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The contrast between stolen SM model and their actual "creative input" is so obvious it's laughable. I'd hang myself out of shame if I were trooncucklis.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This is one of the major hang ups with Uni: it's not a mod. It's fanfiction which its creators just throw in whatever they think is cool and not what is actually good for gameplay

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Creators is too great a word, those Black folk operate on Tolkien's evil formula: they only steal and pervert others' stuff and never create anything themselves because they can't.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Also Chaos Space Marines now have access to sisters of battle

                Because frick you

                ?t=1372

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Someone should find the giga Black folk responsible and beat them to death.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Just double checked and yep, that's Yor from Spy x Family because frick you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They deserve to be tortured and flayed alive.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Someone should find the giga Black folk responsible and beat them to death.

                Creators is too great a word, those Black folk operate on Tolkien's evil formula: they only steal and pervert others' stuff and never create anything themselves because they can't.

                Jesus christ dude

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No mercy for the heretics.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        My guess would be to make a sub-mod for the Emperors Children that removes or replaces 2B and/or the rest of the anime stuff in it

        >tfw slaaneshi cult is taking over irl
        >tfw inlore slaanesh was was probably just powered up by aeldari and was not in fact created by them
        tfw it might be the same irl
        taint of chaos is truly ever present

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >nunaming
          You are the problem. Commit the final transition.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >nunaming
            i've no clue what that is

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Eldar, don't give credence to GW's copyright homosexualry

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Use Eldar because I refuse to speak Xeno.

                Only superior low gothic

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Their actual eldar names are different as well, that word is 8e bullshit and contradicts actual fluff.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't mind there being multiple verisons of refering to groups.

                Like if the Dark Eldar call themselves "Drukhari" but they have different names to the other races (Ie "Dark Eldar" to humans, "Pointy Pointy Ears" to the Orks, and "Target Practice" to the Necrons)

                My main issue is them not being referred to their offical names from particular prospectives.

                Like the out-of-touch nobility of Terra can use the High Gothic "Astra Militarum" to refer to the Guard, but Guardsmen should be calling themselves the Imperial Guard. Similarly they should call the Eldar the Eldar and "Aeldar" should be used by the Eldar themselves to refer to the entire race.

                Just a personal preference to help with world building

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You're missing the point, DE call themselves "Elsomethingsomething Ynneiais" or something like that. GW tried to plaster fantasy Naggaroth Elves' nickname on them in 8e to avoid confusion with the cult of a similarly called god which they were trying to hype up as it's own faction at the time. Then the management changed and the idea was scrapped, but that ugly name has yet to be retconned back.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They call themselves "Eladrith Ynneas," correct. Appearently their high gothic name is "Aeldarix malum," which is dumb. I would think it would be more interesting if their craftworld and harlequin cousins called them "Drukhari" instead because Dark Eldar view themselves as the sole inheritors of the Eldar Empire, and all their cousins tell them to frick off

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        My guess would be to make a sub-mod for the Emperors Children that removes or replaces 2B and/or the rest of the anime stuff in it

        have these people no idea about how a slaaneshi worshipper is supposed to look like? can't believe that they would just go for shitty 2d women instead of actually making them look like insane everything-addicted maniacs who skin puppies for sexual gratification.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's because kek is a massive weeb/coomer. He threatened to replace the alpharius model with Yor Friar if the discord didn't behave.

          Really I don't think any of them understand chaos. The point of Slaanesh is not just sex and drugs but that its any addiction brought to its natural conclusion until the only way you can achieve what you want is through ever-more extreme and niche circumstances, twisting you into something that would be unrecognizable from "normal" fetishes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's because kek is a massive weeb/coomer. He threatened to replace the alpharius model with Yor Friar if the discord didn't behave.

          Really I don't think any of them understand chaos. The point of Slaanesh is not just sex and drugs but that its any addiction brought to its natural conclusion until the only way you can achieve what you want is through ever-more extreme and niche circumstances, twisting you into something that would be unrecognizable from "normal" fetishes

          not liking the big tiddy sexy slaaneshi commisar
          homosexual levels off the fricking charts over here.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >homosexual levels off the fricking charts over here.
            Says the Slaanesh Worshipper.

            The issue is it's fricking Camilla from Fire Emblem in a comissiar cap and Five from Drakengard 3.

            They are both inappropriate for a Dawn of War overhaul mod which doesn't allow you to turn these off and is a demonstration of Kek's hypocrisy in claiming that no one else can use his "totally original" assets.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              If you want to hate on this Kek or whatever his name is that's fine, but sexy anime tiddy is always appropriate. I'd advise you to stop being a gay, but your willingness to argue against sexy girls in a videogame because they aren't lore-friendly enough or whatever already indicates that you are a lost cause.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                ...I frankly cannot tell if it is a bait or a case of an actual moronation.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Neither, I just think you're a homosexual for complaining about a mod having sexy girls in it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm complaining it clashes with 40k. Slaanesh is meant to be so depraved that it's disturbing.

                If you want to coom, put it elsewhere.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >>If you want to coom, put it elsewhere.
                No. I like it right where it is, thanks.
                is meant to be-
                Slaanesh is meant to be extremes of various sorts, including sensation, pleasure and aesthetics. There isn't one true vision here, and your b***hing about sexy women in a slaaneshi faction just makes you a boring and prudish homosexual.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You don't belong. Go back to your jrpg porn trash and never come back, lest you be beaten to death with a metal dreadnought in a sock.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off homosexual, I've played the DoW games and their mods in the past, I play them now and I will continue to play them well into the future.

                >Slaanesh is meant to be extremes of various sorts, including sensation, pleasure and aesthetics. There isn't one true vision here, and your b***hing about sexy women in a slaaneshi faction just makes you a boring and prudish homosexual.

                t. a Slaaneshi Cultist

                Every pleasure Slaanesh takes to the most extreme end goal. Slaanesh isn't having orgies with 10s and snorting coke off a Hooker's ass. Slaanesh wants you to have an orgy where the death tool is higher than the amount of participants, the drugs are drawn from stabing yourself in the eye and using the blood mixed with semen to create cocaine, and having music so loud it causes people's eyes to explode.

                It's not that the people are sexy. It's that there is no depravity, no corruption, etc. There's no twist to their sexiness that makes them horrifying to someone who is not already devoted to Slaanesh or so depraved and seeking evermore extreme pleasures that it would appeal to their niche fetish.

                goes to the absolute and most unhealthy extreme.
                That's part of Slaanesh what Slaanesh is, it isn't all of what Slaanesh is as a deity/concept/whatever. The Chaos "Gods" in general are not demons or whatever given a new coat of paint. Khorne is martial pride and honor too, not just mindless bloodlust. Nurgle is acceptance and love in spite of various faults in addition to sloth and decay, Tzeentch is the desire to better oneself and the world one lives in as well as endless Machiavellian scheming. Slaanesh is about genuine fun and pleasure, the desire for new and varied experiences and the will to do the best that one can as well as being some sort of cenobite with OCD. Anyway, the bottom line is that a beautiful, sexually attractive woman who isn't a horrifying monstrosity at the same time fits with what Slaanesh is, it just doesn't necessarily fit with everything that Slaanesh is and that's fine.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The issue is the Chaos Gods need to feed, and so will push their followers into evermore extreme actions. Hence why you "fall" to chaos, because usually it starts with good intentions like martial prowess, trying to cure a disease, trying to outsmart your opponents, etc. That way they get the most power and energy from that action.

                Slaanesh, being the god of excess and pleasure, is like chasing an addiction, seeking evermore stimulation and higher highs that it errodes your sense of taste and your ability to feel things, to the point where you've built up such a tolerance for the basic things that you can no longer find pleasure in it.

                Slaanesh, by her/his/its nature, is NECESSARILY excessive and the most extreme of its experiences as opposed to even mild titillation. To encapsulate what Slaanesh is would include not just minor pleasures like enjoying the food you eat, or finding joy in the things you do, but taking those to the most extreme they can be and reaching for ever more extreme highs. The difference here is that Slaanesh wouldn't be affected by someone who is content with what they have or who has very minimal want for more. Slaanesh is decadence, overindulgence, etc. (Let's not forget that her daemons have a clear Hindu/Buddhist influence for this reason, which teaches you to live in moderation, and whose demons are meant to torture those who indulge instead of being ascetic)

                What you've told me is you don't understand chaos and have a superficial understanding of the philosophy behind it and how the Gods desire to be feed.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >>The Chaos Gods are by nature excessive so therefore all of their followers embody all of those excesses at once.
                Yeah no, this is only the case in really terribly written Black Library books(I.E most of them)and a lot of the really boring new fluff that tries to remove a lot the shades of gray from 40k.

                You do not belong and never will. moronic maggots such as you are tumors that are not meant to survive, and you will be cut and disposed of by the fandom.

                That's nice skip, but you don't actually have the power to do jackshit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In the context of a person actively fighting in Chaos Marine army shades of grey don't really apply, they are clearly corrupted at that point.
                Maybe

                I think that's all Unifications territory. UA is at least reasonable in its autism.

                started out in some beauty or music cult on some hive world but they are sitting in a chaos marine tank now with noise doodads, theres no reason for them to look like that.
                And this is all ignoring the fact that it's a literal Fire Emblem character in a hat, face it these kind of inclusions are just self-fanservice they have nothing to do with 40k.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think that's all Unifications territory. UA is at least reasonable in its autism.

                out in some beauty or music cult on some hive world but they are sitting in a chaos marine tank now with noise doodads, theres no reason for them to look like that.
                Sure there is, remember SIgvald the Magnificent from Warhammer Fantasy? This chick is basically the gender-swapped 40k equivalent of that.

                >>And this is all ignoring the fact that it's a literal Fire Emblem character in a hat, face it these kind of inclusions are just self-fanservice they have nothing to do with 40k.
                I will not deny that fanservice is part of the reason why she's in the mod. It's just not the only reason nor is it completely unjustifiable.

                I have the power to throw you and the likes of you out of my LGS bleeding, screaming and clutching the shattered remains of their illegal printed coomtrash "models". And if cops are called, everyone will testify that I acted in self-defence and subdued a violent psychotic who threatened to stab everyone inside with a knife over a bad dice roll.

                >>I have the power to make impotent internet toughguy threats on-line as I seethe in a pile of my own refuse.
                Fixed.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If it was just threats, there would've been printard zoomers in my store. And there aren't any.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It is just threats, were it not, your ass would be in jail for assault and battery.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not because the lads and family connections have my back. I'd have to kill someone in broad daylight on camera to get in trouble.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                post army dipshit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yours first, then I decide if you deserve any pics.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the one claiming to be boss Black person of some ghetto ass gypsy gamestore

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ur weak gae and admit failure

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It's just not the only reason nor is it completely unjustifiable
                I disagree it's completely unjustifiable. If they want to add cute chicks or coomer material they should create their own and make it for the setting.
                The french witch hunters mod for dark crusade is a great example for how it should be done, the chicks are cute and it still fits the SoB.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's because the person who is behind it and who made most of the models Uni is using for Sisters is actually a dude named Eranthis.

                I think he confirmed he's actually also gay, which is why the mod isn't horny and is much more respectable

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >gays are more respectable than weeb virgins
                color me surprised

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hey the greeks made a whole ass civilization while diddling kids.

                What have weebs accomplished besides disappointing their parents?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Weebs made a whole lot of people want to bash their skull in, in fact, more people than israelites did. That's an achievement of sorts.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You couldn't beat anyone up let alone bash some skulls in, little internet tough guy reddit cuckold, dont even like coomers but just shut the frick up you're embarrasing vst posters as a collective

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Shut up and crawl back into the pussyfree general you came from, brainless weeby eternal virgin.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You are a pathetic scrap of a man who's micropenis causes bombastic violent outbursts online and should go back to Ganker, or preferably get off the internet alltogether until you're in a less bad mental state

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You post frogs, your argument is invalid (and you are probably mentally challenged).

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You are a pathetic scrap of a man who's micropenis causes bombastic violent outbursts online and should go back to Ganker, or preferably get off the internet alltogether until you're in a less bad mental state

                The arguments people get into I swear to God.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Hey the greeks made a whole ass civilization while diddling kids.

                What have weebs accomplished besides disappointing their parents?

                Weebs made a whole lot of people want to bash their skull in, in fact, more people than israelites did. That's an achievement of sorts.

                holy seethe

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >shaking
                Get some sun, buddy

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do so already though

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You couldn't beat anyone up let alone bash some skulls in, little internet tough guy reddit cuckold, dont even like coomers but just shut the frick up you're embarrasing vst posters as a collective

                Do so already though

                ooo he mad

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I have the power to throw you and the likes of you out of my LGS bleeding, screaming and clutching the shattered remains of their illegal printed coomtrash "models". And if cops are called, everyone will testify that I acted in self-defence and subdued a violent psychotic who threatened to stab everyone inside with a knife over a bad dice roll.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You do not belong and never will. moronic maggots such as you are tumors that are not meant to survive, and you will be cut and disposed of by the fandom.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Slaanesh is meant to be extremes of various sorts, including sensation, pleasure and aesthetics. There isn't one true vision here, and your b***hing about sexy women in a slaaneshi faction just makes you a boring and prudish homosexual.

                t. a Slaaneshi Cultist

                Every pleasure Slaanesh takes to the most extreme end goal. Slaanesh isn't having orgies with 10s and snorting coke off a Hooker's ass. Slaanesh wants you to have an orgy where the death tool is higher than the amount of participants, the drugs are drawn from stabing yourself in the eye and using the blood mixed with semen to create cocaine, and having music so loud it causes people's eyes to explode.

                It's not that the people are sexy. It's that there is no depravity, no corruption, etc. There's no twist to their sexiness that makes them horrifying to someone who is not already devoted to Slaanesh or so depraved and seeking evermore extreme pleasures that it would appeal to their niche fetish.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >sexy anime tiddy is always appropriate
                What 0 pussy does to a motherfricker

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Reddit and twitter are over that way. >>>>>
                Go and stay go.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What, and join incels like you at your hangout? Touch grass and get some pussy. If you even can anyway.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            If you want to hate on this Kek or whatever his name is that's fine, but sexy anime tiddy is always appropriate. I'd advise you to stop being a gay, but your willingness to argue against sexy girls in a videogame because they aren't lore-friendly enough or whatever already indicates that you are a lost cause.

            Neither, I just think you're a homosexual for complaining about a mod having sexy girls in it.

            troonykulis defence force is crawling out of his shitscord again. Pathetic.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Speaking of his shitcord, he's fancying himself a king now. He was the one who accused Cylarne of going mad with power because he didn't want them to hijack his mod and he wanted to be involved in producing it.

              >Accuse your opponents of everything you are guilty of

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Whats stopping anyone from just doing the same rips and using the same mods that Uni is made from to make something else?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In theory nothing, but if you upload to moddb, nexus, mediafire, etc. they could flag you.

                Moddb is the site where they have all their connections, which is why they're being astroturfed heavily there.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Flag you for what?
                If I make a mod with ripped models from Space Marine, and combine some assets from the Armageddon Legion and Inquisition mods what does that have to do with Uni? I'm not doing anything with Uni.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Despite not creating the Inquisition Daemon Hunters or Steel Legion Mods, the Uni devs still claim ownership because they're apart of the group that Thudmeizer put together and he's been involved with pretty much everything.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Thats not Slaneesh, Thats vanilla coomer bait. Where is my futa dicked commissar with mouths on the base of the shaft?

            Do you even degeneracy?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Nundams and the moronic living saint yet
      who
      i have not been following 40k

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nundams are the Paragon Warsuits, which unfortunately kinda have to be included because Sisters desperately need elite heavy infantry

        The living saint models are the ones he supposedly made for Ultimate Apocalypse and repurposed for Uni, though if you look at the Veteran Mod from 2017, which is from before he really began to make content, it has those living saints models, so I'm guess he ripped it from the Eranthis Project and claimed it as his own

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing like spamming enough inquisition stormtroopers for the game to crash giving you the moral victory

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frick kitchen sink mods when are we getting Horus Kino?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There’s the age of technology mod

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick Horus Tantrum shits and get me the Unification of Terra mod with a Campaign and voiced cutscenes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why isn't there a 2nd and 11th legion?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        All records expunged

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No one actually knows... And it is forbidden to discuss such things.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because both of those legions are supposed to be imagined by players. Make you're own space marine legion and stuff

        >throw massive shit at the wall: the mod
        at least it has some kino moments

        That's every mod ever, the point is to add way more content. Though I hope they finally removed those fricking trex sounds, I value my ears

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >hit slugga boyz with orbital strike
    >they take 5% damage and get knocked back
    fluffcrunchative dissonance

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does Titanium Wars let me use the Sisters of Battle in the campaign?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry.
        Specifically TW for Dark Crusade.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, no

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Well thats gay

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i want discord divas to leave

    that is all.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone know of a reskin/modelswap for Dark Crusade that turn the Word Bearers in the campaign into the Thousand Sons?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    whats the best/easiest way to spite the uni devs? they seem irritable and deserving of such

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Join the discord server and find out, lets see what you can do

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      My guess would be to make a sub-mod for the Emperors Children that removes or replaces 2B and/or the rest of the anime stuff in it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        There's too much puke to cut out, you'd be better off taking the isolated pieces of non-shit content and grafting them onto a non-shittily coded faction that troon hands never touched.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        There's too much puke to cut out, you'd be better off taking the isolated pieces of non-shit content and grafting them onto a non-shittily coded faction that troon hands never touched.

        Pretty much this. Steal the good stuff and reupload it where it can't be taken down
        Maybe even take a page from game pirates and use torrents or hosting compressed pieces on mediafire/uptobox/pixeldrain and using filecrypt to track them.
        Even publishers can't keep this stuff down, the modding team will only be able to seethe about it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >mediafire/uptobox/pixeldrain
          All will potentially delete your stuff. So far russian hosts has been the safest (Yandex.Disk and MailRu something).
          They've become even safer nowadays.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Cloud drives are perfectly safe, you can handwave them off as your personal backups. Nobody can prove that those access links you hand out are being used for nefarious purposes.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, allow me to phrase it the other way.
              Things indeed will not be deleted. You will also most likely retain the right to download whatever you have uploaded for yourself.
              However, you won't be able to share this stuff with anyone else; for copyrighted stuff downloads for other people would most likely be blocked.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They won't because the guys running them don't give half a shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I personally got them blocked on MediaFire, and I didn't even get that much downloads.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's a hosting, not a cloud storage service.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ugh, frick. I haven't noticed you've switched the theme to the clouds. I was talking about hostings all along.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just straight up steal all their assets and reupload it on another site from Serbia or some shit.
      Make a custom faction comprised solely of stolen Unification assets.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Literally just say UA is better, leave a bad review, or using their shit in another mod.

      My guess would be to make a sub-mod for the Emperors Children that removes or replaces 2B and/or the rest of the anime stuff in it

      Technically that's what Echo of Heresy is, but their issue is it's got no polish and crashes because it's built on the same version bloodline uses

      [...]
      Pretty much this. Steal the good stuff and reupload it where it can't be taken down
      Maybe even take a page from game pirates and use torrents or hosting compressed pieces on mediafire/uptobox/pixeldrain and using filecrypt to track them.
      Even publishers can't keep this stuff down, the modding team will only be able to seethe about it.

      Mediafire won't work. Doomslayer uploaded the old mod betas there and they had their discord flag him en masse.

      Does anyone know of a reskin/modelswap for Dark Crusade that turn the Word Bearers in the campaign into the Thousand Sons?

      You can't really do it effectively, but you could lead the advance sp/dxp files paths to lead to Thousand Sons instead.

      >DUDE MODDER DRAMA
      see this is why i don't interact with these homosexuals and just play their mods, also dowpro is the best one for me as it's the closest to an actual good RTS experience and not DUDE MILLION PRETTY UNITS spamfest, closely followed by firestorm for striving to be similar to tabletop

      I wish it were so simple as having the creative freedom for people to have a bunch of assets that they let anyone use like in the good old days of Dawn of War modding. But if there's only a handful of modders with the knowledge and skills and they refuse to let anyone else use their assets, it will lead to the death of modding for all.

      Kek's already got his talons in both DOW Pro and Firestorm, as well as several DOWII projects.

      Look at the creator of the Beastmen mod, UA, the Death Korps Mod, etc. which he has screwed over. If he really is only doing this for fun like he claims, then he wouldn't be trying to climb to the top of the status hierarchy and then push the ladder down to prevent anyone else from rising up.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kek's already got his talons in both DOW Pro and Firestorm, as well as several DOWII projects.

        Hollow4thewat has a tight leash on him though, he is one of the few able to tell any dow modder to go suck a dick and not fall for the coomer meme

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >back when relicnews was still on, managed to expose cylarnes moronic antics and overall incompetence
          >cylarne sends his goons after him, to the point of doxxing him behind the scenes- does not give a shit
          >managed to expose the scam the russians were about to pull off with the warhammer 40K eternal war game they were doing behind the scenes when in reality they were showing devianart screenshots to get dow modders and public hooked in
          >russians attempt to doxx him, again does not give a shit
          >manages to hold off kekoulis coomer troon shit telling him to frick off
          >kekoulis is so fed up with him he will try to pull some shitty drama
          >probably he will send people after him
          >again, he will not give a shit
          >he only wants to mod dowpro and have replays to watch so he can keep going

          i-is this hollow4thewat being based b-bros??

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Is there any evidence of the Cylarne thing, or...?

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >DUDE MODDER DRAMA
    see this is why i don't interact with these homosexuals and just play their mods, also dowpro is the best one for me as it's the closest to an actual good RTS experience and not DUDE MILLION PRETTY UNITS spamfest, closely followed by firestorm for striving to be similar to tabletop

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a mod for Dark Crusade that adds in SoB and preferably not much else.
    I don't care for these giant bloat mods.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Witch Hunters had a mod for Dark Crusade, but no campaign mod as far as I am aware

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think there are some that add DC's campaign to SS, and at least one that removes aircraft and weird balance changes. Should give you the desired result.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Soulstorm always felt so cheap with its in-game engine intro and Sisters of Battle that look out of place next to any other faction

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Try Titanium Wars in Dark Crusades Campaign
    >First mission, rush and destory the Tau HQ as Orks
    >Game doesn't end
    >Check objectives
    >TW changes the win condition from HQ to Annihilation
    I love spending half an hour chasing around the enemy while they build single buildings all over the map, its fricking fantastic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just wait till you do the strongholds.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Strongholds are untakable without the forward base bonus, but once you get it and enough HG units to hold off the first waves while you build and tech up, it becomes a matter of time. Shit's especially hilarious with necrons, you can get an unlimited army that takes up zero capacity by reinforcing your HG warriors and immortals and then resurrecting the casualties, creating entire new squads.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, its amazing how much better Soulstorm is with Campaign Bases installed

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have some questions about DoW1/2 modding if any anons can answer them, I don't want to go on a discord to ask
    What is the maximum number of factions the games support?
    Do any of the campaigns support co-op?
    Can you triggers in skirmish maps?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >What is the maximum number of factions the games support?
      No race limit is hard coded as far as I am aware, but the largest roster any mod has is with Echo of Heresy
      >Do any of the campaigns support co-op
      My knowledge of Dawn of War II is limited but Dawn of War I does not
      >Can you triggers in skirmish maps?
      I don't know what this is asking but it's going to involve SCAR coding

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Triggers as in what? Large destructible structures like that tunnel collapse in vanilla DoW2 tutorial? That should be possible, it's all base game content that the worldbuilder processes, mod content is where you start to get issues. If you want to make ambient AI ene.ies appear, I don't really know if that's possible, but it could use the FFA/TFFA or campaign "cpu fighting cpu" mechanics from Retribution intro and exterminatus escape missions as a base.

        Aren't triggers pretty commonplace terminology for anyone who has touched a map editor

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Triggers as in what? Large destructible structures like that tunnel collapse in vanilla DoW2 tutorial? That should be possible, it's all base game content that the worldbuilder processes, mod content is where you start to get issues. If you want to make ambient AI ene.ies appear, I don't really know if that's possible, but it could use the FFA/TFFA or campaign "cpu fighting cpu" mechanics from Retribution intro and exterminatus escape missions as a base.

        Sorry I should have been more specific, by triggers in skirmish maps I mean something like Aoe2 mp scenarios or Wc3 customs but loaded through the skirmish interface.
        I think I played a CoH mod (which is the same engine as DoW I think) once and that had some stuff happen in a skimirsh map but I can't remember exactly.
        Thanks for answers

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Could it be scripted AI? There are some maps on workshop that have it, rather than basic skirmish one.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Triggers as in what? Large destructible structures like that tunnel collapse in vanilla DoW2 tutorial? That should be possible, it's all base game content that the worldbuilder processes, mod content is where you start to get issues. If you want to make ambient AI ene.ies appear, I don't really know if that's possible, but it could use the FFA/TFFA or campaign "cpu fighting cpu" mechanics from Retribution intro and exterminatus escape missions as a base.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      IIrc most of the modding knowledge about Dawn of War 2 was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. There used to be some pretty impressive mods, like Space Hulk one and others even added basebuilding. Elite Mod can't figure out how to add more races to the UI in army painter/faction select other than using that weird commander trick they did for Ordo Malleus. They also don't care about adding new factions anyway.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dawn of War II definitely is inferior from a modding perspective anyway because the game has far less the way of ability to add new things because of its different engine and design philosophy.

        The engine for CoH/DoW needed to be much more flexible and therefore much more moddable

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >most of the modding knowledge about Dawn of War 2 was lost in the Dark Age of Technology
        What happened exactly? Sites go down?
        I feel like a lot of Aoe1/2 modding knowledge and content will be lost when the Heaven sites go down. It will even worse than when CnCDen went down.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Most of it went down with Relic I'm presuming.

          For Dawn of War 1 you need a copy of Dark Crusade (non-steam version), a copy of 3DSmax2008, and to set up multiple tools correctly, all of which is not easily done

          God only knows what Dawn of War II is like

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >UA AI bumrushes my base and flattens me after a few minutes without fail
    Does the AI get more resourses or something because this is some frickin bullshit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just gimp the ai in the control panel bro

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I already switched to Titanium Wars.
        It plays a lot nicer, except the campaign is slow as frick now.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I already switched to Titanium Wars.
      It plays a lot nicer, except the campaign is slow as frick now.

      The AI gets more resources based on the difficulty and more health. In the AI control panel, there is a way to stop it from bum rushing you unprovoked, though.

      Every Dawn of War mod has this issue because it's built into the base game

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Tabletop and video games are obviously very different. Especially in case of 40k. 40k isn't really a wargame mainly. GW is mostly concerned with selling models and paints and wargame is simply an excuse to do something with the models. Smashing them on the table with your friend while drinking beer is the way to go, it's worthless for any other more serious and tactical approach. And GW doesn't really care, wargame is just a P2W gacha for them. As such tabletop game itself is completely bloated mess, similarly to Unification and UA, because they keep adding redundant overpowered units even if they aren't actually needed.

    So when modders try to include everything from tabletop into DoW, it's a fricking mess as well. And balance and good design is more important here, since Dawn of War is actually a game mainly and army painter is only a minor gimmick, contrary to the tabletop where most of the fun is in the assembling, sculpting, kitbashing and painting units, while playing itself is of tertiary concern. But even discarding that, tabletop has more similar design to the likes of Total War, where you are building an army before the battle and not during it, which also makes it a bit easier to comprehend all this bloat. UA/Unification allows everyone to build everything during one battle, which makes it all feel even more bloated and messy than it is in tabletop.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So I was thinking, if hypothetical DoW4 were to be made with the intent of porting most of this bloat, it could feature some prebattle army customization mechanic. Say you want to play Deldar. Instead of simply selecting Deldar army like in DoW1/2/3 you would be able to select few of their components. Haemonculi Covens, Wych Cults, Kabals, Harlequins and Corsairs. Each would unlock buildings and units depending on what you include into the army. This could be a nice compromise between bloat and game design and should make it easier to balance and understand the game since there would be always only limited amount of bloat during the battle.

      And if not in DoW4 then in some mod, if the UI and engine would allow this, though I doubt it would.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Each would unlock buildings and units depending on what you include into the army. This could be a nice compromise between bloat and game design and should make it easier to balance and understand the game since there would be always only limited amount of bloat during the battle.
        >And if not in DoW4 then in some mod, if the UI and engine would allow this, though I doubt it would.

        Yes and no. This is technically what Uni is trying to do, by having branching options based on which tech you choose. (Hence the Emperor's Children Mod, etc.)

        The issue is in terms of game design is The Paradox of Choice, and the more options like that you have, the less satisfied you are with any of them, and there is a dominate strategy for higher tier players as one being marginally better than the rest means you will always take that one.

        Most of the time it has players feel as if their decision is arbitrary and not as engaging as if they were just allowed to access everything

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, I feel that being able to build units during a conflict better represents the expanding nature of a conflict as it escalates over time and each side throws more kill-y things at each other, like they would in 40k.

      In that sense, I actually think something like UA represents the setting the best: big, messy, not always balanced but always a spectacle if nothing else

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Virgin Uni: You can field a two russes because of muh balance

    Chad UA: You can field all the russ variants you want and all the baneblade variants you want

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Crucible mod any good?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's basically the "Unification approved Ultimate Apocalypse" where they uncoditionally suck Kek's dick and shit on base UA, giving him credit for models he didn't create.

      It also has the issue of locking units behind doctrines they don't fit in or just throwing random shit at the wall. It's hard to avoid the feeling that it's just to keep a select group in charge and screwing over the any upstarts who aren't in line with their methods.

      Also if Cylarne had a spine he'd use the crucible to say that UA has a right to the models in uni because it violates the agreement he set up

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "Death of an artstyle" really describes Unification doesn't it? Watch the morons on discord coom themselves over this shit
    >oh muh leman russ
    >oh muh pruhmurch

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it doesn't fit with anything else and you know that voice acting will be absolutely horrendous.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's fine? The worst things about it are the hair and fur, but the armor itself seems okay.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's very low quality and off-model, like an abysmally bad knockoff action figure from aliexpress.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, you're overselling it. Aside from height, it matches up reasonably well with his art. Weapons are dumb looking though.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't, "vaguely segmented plates with rivets" is too much of a stretch. By the way, ALL art is decanonized by the actual physical model, that is the only real appearance, and those homosexual-Black person troons failed to make anything remotely like it.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I'd say they did a decent job of capturing the finer details of the armor, (especially the legs) considering it's an RTS unit and not supposed to be all that detailed. It's more the moronic fur that looks like ass in the Dawn of War engine that bothers me.
              >By the way, ALL art is decanonized by the actual physical model
              Anon that's just being pedantic. Especially considering the model is nearly identical to that art.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't, it's literally just a crappy anime texture plastered over a poorly made out of proportion 3d dummy. The geometry of every single bit is wrong. There are no redeeming qualities to their shit, and playing troony's advocate just to annoy people with your blindness is not a good idea.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fricking get over yourself anon. Every post I made I complained about some element of the thing and if someone not getting your autism over "geometry" is too much for you then you're just an overly sensitive nitwit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I would criticize its proportions. Pauldrons are too small. Back pack needs to be higher up and bigger,most of his chest decals are textures when having a physical model would be more appropriates for most of the decals, etc.

                Also that fur effect just looks bad

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fair. I agree with pretty much all of that, though I will say I'm fine with some of the proportional changes as the terminator-esque shoulder pads in the original seem a little silly looking to me. The fur is a complete abomination and reminds me of their original, awful Lion El'Johnson model.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think the new Lion El Johnson model is also by Joazz but edited slightly, hence the better quality.

                The issue I have with Primarchs in Dawn of War is that they're severely underpowered. Angron in canon crushed a warhound titan by grabbing its foot when it stomped him, and they should be game enders in their own right.

                Plus most of the primarchs are missing or dead, so it not only gives an unfair advantage to certain factions, but also is basically massacring lore. UA had Angron, sure, but he was your game ender, and given how in lore he almost single handedly destroyed Armageddon, it's justified.

                For what is supposed to be the more 'balanced" mod, uni is just fan service which has its novelty wear off after a few matches when you realize the spectacle isn't supported by the gameplay

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Technically space marines shouldn't be able to incur the casualties they can in vanilla Dawn of War, so I've really never minded the lore reasoning behind stuff in it. Plus if it's that much of a problem you can just deactivate them in the options and only use them if you want a Horus Heresy era battle.
                >Plus most of the primarchs are missing or dead, so it not only gives an unfair advantage to certain factions
                Nah dude. Primarchs are somewhere around relic units like Khaine or a Daemon prince in terms of survivability and with enough focus firing, you can just melt the suckers. Their primary use is the buffs that can help your infantry against higher tier units IMO, but they're hardly irreplaceable, especially given that you're often losing one of your late-game units to get them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I would also cite it as an issue who they're presented in tabletop if that helps.

                Sanguinius solo'd not only Kabandah but thousands of space marines single-handedly in the Siege of Terra. The canonical level of strength of the primarchs mean they should be lords of war that basically could single-handedly destroy battles, even apocalypse-level battles.

                It just feels cheap to make them basically on the level of a baneblade

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is that fricking WC3R Arthas's head?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I have seen the actual primarch models up close, and this puke is uncanny valley as frick.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Absolute travesty. And those morons could get any of the printcuck 3dshit, pay someone with actual talent to make textures for it, and maybe it wouldn't have looked like a bucket of puke. But of course that would prevent them from plastering DONUTSTEEL all over it, so they shit out ugly trash again.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Does he have a Scottish accent though?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Looks fricking horrendous.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's not as bad as their old Guilliman Model

        Like seriously, what the frick?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >troony 8e "model" instead of FW kino
          Their shit taste and trooned out onions-filled mind is the root of everything wrong with their product.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I was more concerned with the armies that go doen to his kneecaps, tiny legs, and low-resolution textures on everything but the face

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The problem is not with the 8e model, it's that it looks like it was done by a child.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              8e trash looks like it was made by a child, which is very likely the case.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He looks like a random Ultramarine captain. They shouldn't add Primarchs at all if this is how they are going to model them.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Titans and named characters don't belong in Dawn of War skirmish/multiplayer. Any mod that adds them is shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Titans
      They belong because they're essentially just a giant vehicle and no one is ever going to afford them
      >Named Characters
      I really hate when they are included because I like the idea of factions being able to be used by anyone, and having more than one named character on a battlefield is just stupid

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >those clipping, unanimated, open palm hands
    I HATE this shit they do every fricking time, it looks mega ugly. Take a note from official models? Book, make that hand pre-cupped if you can't be arsed to properly rig and animate its fingers.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Limitation of the fact that these people aren't professional 3D animators, regardless of what they tell you

      I have seen the actual primarch models up close, and this puke is uncanny valley as frick.

      The Unification issue is that they don't do human anatomy very well nor do they do animation well, hence why most things are just modifications of preexisting materials

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And those things are why they should be dismantled and forever boycotted from the modding community. Narcissistic, inept morons monopolising everything would kill it if not eradicated.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          My ideal solution would be for them not to stop modding, but to just let other people use their assets and not act as gatekeepers.

          It's become an elitist group of buttholes who look down upon everyone else, not realizing that most modders start out just combining other people's assets to get used to the engine anyway

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They are just so harmful that letting them keep modding at all is out of the question. These maggots must be crushed, universally ostracised and thrown out, then prevented from ever coming back. Every mod hosting site must permanently blacklist them and their affiliates.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That's a bit extreme. Again the issue is they've snatched up all the modding veterans for themselves so excommunicating isn't going to do much but kill the modding scene and make it so they're sympathetic in the public's eyes as the "little man fighting against the censorious websites" as opposed to them being the censorious ones themselves

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Then give those veterans an ultimatum: expose and denounce unihomosexuals or suffer with them. It's a very simple solution based on the nature of their vipers' nest. You'll be surprised how fast the cult falls apart, everyone will be sharing stories of being bullied by troonkulis and his toxic goons. Those people are longing for a way out, even if they don't openly admit it. They will happily de-propreitize every single bit and crawl back to those they betrayed, begging for forgiveness and swearing they'll never do parlorgayging again.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You can't give someone an ultimatum if you don't have leverage over them. It's like squirting a water pistol at the sun.

                Unironically the entire thing is based around power politics, which is ironic given it's a fricking modding community around a decade and a half old game.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else think the Inquisition Daemonhunters are underpowered, or do i just need to git gud

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Both, but assassin spam works generally well.

      They were supposed to get a Psi-Titan but the Uni team left. The model used is by a man named Mauritos.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    how's Redux? I just want a vanilla+ mod that makes the game look and play a bit better. Anything like that?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I hear it was abandoned and is now more just Dawn of War I with Dawn of War's II interface, but I haven't played much of it

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imo it's better to try and start a new parallel modding community
    Make a new site for it with discussion only about coding/scripting/mapping/art/design/sound only and nothing else.
    Collect articles, dead forum posts, tutorials, video, resources anything really and have it all in one place.
    Could benefit from being about RTS games in general and not just DoW
    Could also just be a modding thread on here but /vst/ doesn't allow generals and it would insta die on /vg/

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It will probably fall to typical forum/plebbit/shitscord drama, unless someone with strong principles gets to admin the damn thing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Strong principles
        Just pay a Filipino on fiverr monthly to do it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Except a hired jannie can be bribed.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All this drama and seething around 40k mods made by talentless hacks, meanwhile Fantasychad modders make more progress in months than 40kid modders do in years.
    https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-old-realms/articles#articlesbrowse

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Video games, anyone?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Video games.

      This digression started because some schizo is paranoid of the accursed Redditor

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The longer I live the more I am sure that modding RTS games should be banned

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone know the answer?

    [...]

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Theoretically yes, practically no. Also frick off with your gridhomosexualry, this is not your game.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It was just an example to get the question across. I wouldn't actually want to implement it as a grid if I didn't have to but since you said it's not practical anyway oh well.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It was just an example to get the question across. I wouldn't actually want to implement it as a grid if I didn't have to but since you said it's not practical anyway oh well.

      Theoretically yes, practically no. Also frick off with your gridhomosexualry, this is not your game.

      Modding campaign is much, MUCH harder because of the amount of SCAR coding (Scripting At Relic, uses mostly C++ from what I've been told), and the wonkiness of the UI
      It's possible but it's a long and tedious process.s I don't like campaign anyway as it seems too tedious and repetitive.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I HATE DESECRATORS OF NURGLE
    I HATE DECEIVERS OF TZEENTCH
    I HATE DEBASERS OF SLAANESH
    I HATE BLOOD SLAUGHTERERS OF KHORNE

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Blood Slaughters of Khorne

      They are technically a different unit. The ones of Khorne are called "Slaughterfiends"

      I only know this because I have the old Apocalypse books

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Decide to try out the campaign with Crucible
    >Play IG, as all alpha men do
    >First battle is against Sisters
    >Flamers perfectly counter guard infantry
    >Actually everything counters guard infantry
    >But flamers especially
    >They get elite anti-vehicle infantry
    >Melt my Chimeras and Hellhounds
    >Takes far too long to reach tech level 3 to get Leman Russ tanks
    >Only way to hold them off is with waves of conscripts
    >Only reason they don't A move my base is because they're too busy killing my Guardsmen
    Frick you prostitutes, I'm busting out the chemical weapons. You made me do this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Stop playing moronic bloat mods, install TW and be happy forever.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Decide to try out the campaign with Crucible
        >Play IG, as all alpha men do
        >First battle is against Sisters
        >Flamers perfectly counter guard infantry
        >Actually everything counters guard infantry
        >But flamers especially
        >They get elite anti-vehicle infantry
        >Melt my Chimeras and Hellhounds
        >Takes far too long to reach tech level 3 to get Leman Russ tanks
        >Only way to hold them off is with waves of conscripts
        >Only reason they don't A move my base is because they're too busy killing my Guardsmen
        Frick you prostitutes, I'm busting out the chemical weapons. You made me do this.

        Titanum Wars is probably going to have the best campaign, but it begs the question why would you play Soulstorm for the campaign?

        Just install Dark Crusade with Titanum Wars and never worry about that shit because it's infinitely better

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What's so good about TW's campaign?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It more that Dark Crusade has the best campaign and Titanum Wars is probably the best mod for Dawn of War. (Aside from Dawn of War Third Generation, which does have a campaign, but isn't as good at making all the races on the same footing.)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Play IG, as all alpha men do

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        spess muhreen fanboy hands made this image.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Space Marines are shit too.
          Only homosexuals and sailors play the Imperium.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            chaos/xenos/both fanboy hands typed this post and possibly made the image that started this argument too.
            I will cover all the bases here if I have to, you motherfricker.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Your Imperium is dying and your "God Emperor" is nothing more than a puppet/wienersleeve for Chaos.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The Imperium has already won, the Emperor has buttfricked chaoscucks all the way, and is poised to eradicate their "deities" entirely. He is literally the all-powerful plot device that chaoscucks pretend to be.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The Emperor got assfricked by Horus after half of his sons turned to Chaos and now he's stuck with a fricking tube up his ass in a golden wheelchair for 10000 years.
                Everyday Chaos, the Tyranids, and the WAAAGH gets stronger.
                You lost.
                The Imperium is fricked.
                Look at me ripping your cuck Emperor off his shiny toilet.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You know everything you said is untrue. He erased Horus from existence, just like how He will erase your false gods. All aliens are declining, and it is a matter of a century or two at most for the Imperium to kill the last xeno. We won and you are doomed. Face it, and stop denying the truth. You are simping for a bad guy NPC faction that only exists for Imperial protagonists to beat up for XP, loot and respect points.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Try harder. The galaxy belongs to the Emperor and you there's nothing you can do about it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Tell him to get off his thrown and take it then bootlicker.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why would He go out of comfy neet heaven basement when you impotent weaklings are failing to take anything from Him already? That's too much honour and recognition for you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Alright lets play a fun game.
                It's called "Raise your hand if the head of your faction can wipe their own ass and feed themselves".
                Lets see, Chaos has their hands up, so do both Eldars, and the Orks and Tau too, why, even the Tyranids have their appendages raised.
                But who doesn't have their hands up?
                Oh well would you look at that, its the Imperium.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, and the Imperium still fricks you over.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah giving all the Boyz free loot and a fight is really fricking us over.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The only "loot" you're getting is nid acid in your Black person face, and then a bullet once you've outlived your usefulness and the Imperium eradicates your fungal colony. Greenshits are as doomed as chaosgays or t*ucucks are.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think the Norn Queens can actually wipe their own asses or feed themselves

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Necrons don't have asses

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I never said Necrons.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Chaos has no head, and the self-proclaimed pretender has no arms altogether. Eldar and orks don't even have pretenders, so lack even a semblance of an ass to wipe. T*u have a dead leader killed by the Imperium, now replaced with a hologram. The Emperor can wipe, but doesn't need to because he makes the shit disappear with psychic powers before it even reaches the butthole. You keep failing like the stupid, impotent cuck you are, just like your NPC "faction" of beating dummies.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Chaos has no head
                Khorne and Tzeentch have arms and can wipe. Slaanesh and Nurgle have arms but refuse to wipe. The Eldar has Eldrad and Dark Eldar Vect. Orks have Ghazkull. Tau are lead by several Etherials.

                The only "loot" you're getting is nid acid in your Black person face, and then a bullet once you've outlived your usefulness and the Imperium eradicates your fungal colony. Greenshits are as doomed as chaosgays or t*ucucks are.

                Is that why you still haven't managed to kill Ghazkull yet?
                Lets not forget, even if you somehow kill all the Boyz in the galaxy, Tuska Daemon Killa is still in the Warp, and Trazyn has severl Krork in his collection, once they escape you're back to square one.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >and Trazyn has severl Krork in his collection
                This new Necron lore with its pocket dimensions is such an unforgivable bullshit...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Warp entities that aren't even really sapient can't have hands, so you're full of shit on that account. Kinda important guys in two of the countless independent factions are not leaders of the Eldar, they're Imperial governor tier at best. Ghaz is an easily controllable asset ready to be removed as soon as there is no use for him. And you're terribly wrong on another account, there are no "several ethereals", only the blueberry pope whom the Imperium killed while he cried and ran and shat his pants like a b***h. Your other "argument" is just as stupid, spores are prevented by burning everything and using mycocide chems, that's how orks are cleansed permanently from systems all the time. And Tuska is a disembodied ghost, neither he nor his orks have any physical form left. Again, you are just as doomed as every other temporary inconvenience to the Imperium. Oh, and there are no "trazyns", shove that troony nulore up your ass and go back to your shitscord, wardcrons are non-canon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >T-that lore d-d-d-doesn't count becasuse I-I-I don't like it!
                Man, shut the frick up nerd.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Accepting troonylore is low test, you're the onions sucking nerd here. Now get lost and cry to your top about those mean Imperiumgays bullying you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you talking about trannies?
                Nobody brought them up homie.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you talking about trannies?
                Nobody brought them up homie.

                Women, please, you're both hideous.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >thinking Emperor do not ascend beyond need of eat and defecate
                Chaosboy... You...

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Frick you, I'm gonna play the Red Army battling demons in Space and nothing can stop me. Frick Kriegers though, I'll give you that

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          So you're a Vostroyan fan then?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Vostroyans are actual Russians, commie zogbots are Valhallans.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              What part of soviet russia does the hatred of orks represent?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Their civil war/WW2 founding myths. Especially the later with its "cataclysmic repelled invasion" thing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And they can relate to overwhelming bureaucracy

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That would be Pretorians and their endless loicense hell.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In the grim darkness of the far future, their is only loicenses

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the answer is always waves of conscripts

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, does anyone have any proof why any of these people are buttholes besides
    >dude trust me

    I played Ultimate Apocalypse and it was boring as frick, with matchs so lopsided there was no point to them; that, and Chaos sucked absolute shit in it.

    Unification, at least, lets me play World Eater and Thousand Sons and their daemons actually seem pretty decent, so I prefer it so far.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This thread from a few months ago goes in depth with it

      https://arch.b4k.co/vst/thread/918540/#918540

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ahahahahahahahaha
    Luv me grot gun karts
    simple as

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Don't give them ideas. Kek will add it to Unification

      He looks like a random Ultramarine captain. They shouldn't add Primarchs at all if this is how they are going to model them.

      Primarchs should be game enders in their own right. They shouldn't just be a late game unit, but something treated with gravitas that makes the game completely change by their mere presence.

      The way Uni does Primarchs not only being modeled poorly but haphazardly included makes the entire thing feel weak

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >8troony map
    Nothing, because it's not canon. Your shitmaris "army" is getting retconned out and your action figures are getting confiscated and smashed.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It is canon, it's just he doesn't like it so he is saying it's not.

    It's like how we pretend the Star Wars Sequels don't exist

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      For Star Wars there are literally Legends. For Legends fans Sequels do not exist.
      For Warhammer, the lore is so fricked up you can do anything you want and call it a canon as long as other players won't kick you out of the game. Or as long as GW won't sue your butt.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It isn't canon, it's Gathering Storm spinoff timeline, which is pretty much its own setting at this point.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I forgot what this tab was and opened it and thought I was on /tg/ until I scrolled all the way up

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You VILL buy ze resin and you VILL be happy!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Similar levels of salt, slightly more toxic, but with less bad actors because we all hate GW

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    whats the best mod if i just want to have a fun time compstomping with friends?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ultimate Apocalypse is a fun mess, but desync errors are probably going to happen.

      Note also that having your own banners and badges can do that too.

      Crucible is technically a more competitive version of it but makes some really dumb design decisions.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >YOU GET VOLKITE
    >YOU GET VOLKITE

    >EVERYONE GETS VOLKITE

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I love Orks. You can just fricking snowball if the enemy isn't on top of you.

    It's a great representation of the lore

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't like how AI orks spam so many vehicles and higher tier units instead of having more slugga and shoota boy heavy armies

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ayoo. Why does crucible needs like a dozen titans and shit when most of them look like your first blender project and do exactly the same thing.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why was Soulstorm so hated? I can't even remember.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Buggy
      Flying Units
      Poor design of new factions
      Buggy
      Campaign map is on "multiple planets" but it's more or less the same amount of space as the Dark Crusade campaign and thus feels really cramped and shitty.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw there is still no good Heresy era mod to play

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What smells has he got feeding through the nose tube

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If only GW wasn't so cheap that we couldn't get more animation of this quality

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Technically the assets are all there for the most part with the Mk III and MK IV space marines having models. I think Heresy Angron is even in Eternal Confrontation

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm working on one, but it will be months before I can release it.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God look how shit the Ynnari is. It's like they just threw a bunch of assets into a blender and called it a race

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's unification and crucible in nutshell. There's a time to just stop and modders will never understand it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's like they just threw a bunch of assets into a blender and called it a race
      So it's lore accurate then?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's not, because in real fluff they don't exist. Going with 8e troonylore is the final nail in uBlack folk' coffin.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Which mods work best with the campaign? I prefer having some context for my skirmish matches.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Which game? The strongholds mod is probably what you're looking for with Soulstorm

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >unit has ability called "TELEPORT"
    >when used it just makes them fly over to the location

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's an issue with the game because SBPs of a unit uses the same function. Really teleport and jump has the same functionality, it's just that jump has something between jump_setup and jump_breakdown, usually jump_goup and jump_down

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So, there no Horus Herest stuff in Unification Mod, is there? It's all bait?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Primarchs and volkites on everything.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's all bait?
      Always has been

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    reading through this thread has shown me that all major mods have discord drama nonsense
    so what mod is worth my time? give me a rundown on them
    ultimate apocalypse
    Unification
    or Titanium wars

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >ultimate apocalypse
      Never gonna update again. You're stuck with crucible for better or worse.
      >Unification
      lol
      >Titanium wars
      Try it for yourself. It's slightly more vanilla compared to ua or crucible but it is also not.
      Fun stronghold missions.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        what happened to UA?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Drama, what else. Discord troons from uni de facto took over with crucible so you will get more and more cancer from uni over time.
          We will die from the old age before any update from the original ua dev releases, he's been teasing random models since forever now and nothing came out of it so far and probably nothing ever will.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >uni took over ua
            so are they going to turn itinto uni 2: electric bogaloo?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's the Crucible, which is a separate mod, but is a UA clone

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I recommend UA because it definitely has higher highs despite the jank

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          See this thread

          This thread from a few months ago goes in depth with it

          https://arch.b4k.co/vst/thread/918540/#918540

          Basically Frag and Cylarne had a misunderstand, Kekoulis decided to make the situation worse by convincing the Thudmeizer team to secede and blacklist the UA team from everything, and now the people working on UA are inexperienced modders who, while passionate, aren't able to pump out content like how Uni does

          Ironically enough, the Crucible is basically Kek's attempt to break his terms by having a UA proxy, which breaks the terms of the original agree they had with Cylarne.

          Titanium Wars is good for campaign, but is more vanilla and is much older than the other two with older assets. It's not on Moddb because of old drama involving the tyranid team.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            its always damn drama and pitiful drama at that.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Kekoulis started modding Dawn of War in 2017 because he wanted to do the Emperor's Children mod.

              It's quite fitting he's grown into a prideful, vain butthole blinded by his own personal desires over what is good for the community overall

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The virgin modders BTFO by the chad youtuber

    ?t=47

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Discord was a mistake
    It combines the all the worst aspects of Ganker, reddit, twitter and old apps like vent/teamspeak
    Concentrated cancer
    It must be destroyed completely

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      My biggest issue is that it's complete garbage to navigate. Old forums were usually nicely organized and it was easy to find what you wanted. On discord everything is on those long never ending chats and it's a fricking cancer. I hate how every mod page now redirects you to fricking discord.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Don't hate the platform when the issue is with the userbase.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The issue is both

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I like elements of it but it's ass in how it's trying to do everything. It's horrible to navigate and it's ridiculous it's 2022 and you STILL CAN'T EXPORT CHATS.

      Modding is so moronic now. It could be moronic in the past, I dealt with a primadonna in fricking M2 back in 2007 but they seem to be everywhere now.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Primadonna is the perfect word for this shit. A bunch artists get too big for their birches and go solo only to realize they aren't as good at their jobs as they think they are

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This video shows everything wrong with Unification.

    Chaos Space Marines with made up units.

    Named characters who have no right being together or all being on the same side at once.

    Units in factions they don't belong in

    Joazz's models being claimed as their own

    I hate it with a passion. They murdered Ultimate Apocalypse for this shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that you are sperging over Unification for months on this board, while shilling for another and similar garbage bloatmod is pathetic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because UA at least knew it fricking was. Uni is fricking bipolar and has no idea what's appropriate and so throws a bunch of shit that doesn't belong into a blender to make one big pile of crap with no continuity or idea of what it should be.

        Everyone knows UA is broken and not very well balanced, but I'll be damned if it wasn't a fun broken mess that knew its strengths and played into them.

        Uni doesn't know what the hell it's doing because it's a bunch of mods strapped together with duct tape and no consistency.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Because UA at least knew it fricking was.
          Cylarne taking credit for a bunch of shit he didn't make?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Cylarne taking credit for a bunch of shit he didn't make?

            Not only that, Cylarne used to aproach said mod devs so they would join them or get hounded because "muh god complex"

            See Cylarne vs GrOrc posted at warforge as an example of how the moron behaves - he has been doing that for years back at Relic News.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I was talking about from a design standpoint, not from a creator standpoint. The design of UA plays into its strengths and actually improves the gameplay of Dawn of War through a lot of Quality-of-life improvements like auto-healing buildings, more armor types, etc.

            Also I would say that Uni is worse for that just because at least UA is in the creative commons whereas Uni is "OC donut steel" when most of it isn't original creations or based on an IP they don't have the rights to.

            >Cylarne taking credit for a bunch of shit he didn't make?

            Not only that, Cylarne used to aproach said mod devs so they would join them or get hounded because "muh god complex"

            See Cylarne vs GrOrc posted at warforge as an example of how the moron behaves - he has been doing that for years back at Relic News.

            He is a moron, but that warforge post seems to indicate he approached GrOrc in good faith more or less.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >UA is in the creative commons
              No, it isn't

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                My point is that you can use the assets from UA in your own mod with proper credit, which is at least de facto creative commons

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Has that always been the case? I though it was prohibitive.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's in the terms and conditions of UA, and alot of assets from UA have appeared in other mods like the Imperator Titan.

                Hell even Warsmith used UA assets despite him not wanting UA to use his shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It's in the terms and conditions of UA
                I did not know that. That is praiseworthy. I retract my original retort. (

                >UA is in the creative commons
                No, it isn't

                )

                Honestly, in modding community that was the very default code of conduct until the very last decade, when some homosexuals decided that mods should be sold and copyrighted like the rest of the stuff.
                Until that day everyone just took whatever they wanted. If you've gave the honest credit, you were respected. If you did not - you usually became the laughing stock. Everything was rather normal and natural, and nowadays it is complete chaos.

                Yes I hate this shit. There's nothing more laughable than "modder's rights." It has ruined the Elder Scrolls modding community in many ways. It's the reason they have no modpacks or notable installer tools, and modding from a fresh install is a laborious clusterfrick. Frick Arthmoor in particular. I hope that guy dies.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, in modding community that was the very default code of conduct until the very last decade, when some homosexuals decided that mods should be sold and copyrighted like the rest of the stuff.
                Until that day everyone just took whatever they wanted. If you've gave the honest credit, you were respected. If you did not - you usually became the laughing stock. Everything was rather normal and natural, and nowadays it is complete chaos.

                GrOrc got in trouble with titanum wars because he implemented Tyranids wholesale without giving credit and despite the creators of the Tyranids mod being fine with it so long as they got an installer. (This is why both Uni and UA requires you install Tyranids)

                The fact that Moddb made it so he couldn't host the download on their site is used as precedent by Uni so that you can't use their assets, which is going to get them in legal trouble if GW ever finds out they're de facto declaring they own the stuff from an IP which is not their's. Hence why I don't want them to kill the modding community

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It's the reason they have no modpacks or notable installer tools
                What the frick are you talking about?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, in modding community that was the very default code of conduct until the very last decade, when some homosexuals decided that mods should be sold and copyrighted like the rest of the stuff.
                Until that day everyone just took whatever they wanted. If you've gave the honest credit, you were respected. If you did not - you usually became the laughing stock. Everything was rather normal and natural, and nowadays it is complete chaos.

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Uni's update is out. What did they do this time?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bloat, what else.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nope. It's worse

        I am in physical pain

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          To explain further: the mod is a fricking mess on this release

          Fricking Eternal Confrontation is better

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          what the frick is that?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It is meant to be Lotara Sarrin who not only is meant to be conservatively dressed to make you underestimate her, but has normal fricking arms and not massive breasts or thigh highs

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's the tip of the iceberg. Fatal Scar Errors for multiple races, requirements on buildings that don't exist and functions that don't work. Addon symbols for units with no addons, etc.

                It's a rushed, horrible mess of random bullshit thrown together almost entirely based on the creator's whims.

                Let's not forget how ugly the new nurgling models are (not in a good way), or how all the named characters not taken from other games looks like shit.

                Cylarne didn't call these people incompetent, but he should have. They left UA for this shit

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                More shit: a certain necron instantly crashes the game viewing him the army painter, yor forgar is in the game just because, there's a race called "pepsi" in the game files

                This is not professional. It is a bunch of artists who know nothing of game design

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                YOU CAN'T PLAY DEATH KORPS, YNNARI, OR CHAOS BECAUSE OF FATAL SCAR ERRORS

                THERE ARE MISSING TEXTURES AND MISSING MODELS EVERYWHERE

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                More bullshit:

                Fulgrim still has the watermark on his texture. So much for "ALL THIS CONTENT BELONGS TO US AND US ALONE"

                The teeth on zhufor's face doesn't fit the rest of his face

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And now cloud is fricking up guard in Elite in the exact same way. These people are not merely unprofessional idiots, they find some twisted and sick pleasure in ruining things entrusted to them.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Already has been confirmed by a dev to be a little joke. A new more conservative model is coming next patch.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You don't have devs, only shit eaters and schizos. Go back to your troonscord, or better yet, nuke "your" stolen trainwreck of a mod and return common assets to the people whom they fricking belong to. You deserve to be hanged from the balls until dead for all of your "little jokes" you homosexual ass worms, you absolute rotten maggots.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The entire mod is a little joke, ruined because it is following rule of cool over consistency or professional quality results.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                More like rule of coom in this particular sorry case.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I hate it so much. 40k is meant to be a setting where sex isn't usually done for pleasure but is dry and passionless because of the need for manpower. People don't have sex for love in 40k, they do it because there's a million things trying to kill and the closest thing you have to human affection comes from the bureaucratic mandate that you need 10 kids for the war machine,

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Grimderp and TTS have you severe brainrot. Stop getting your fluff from tertiary sources.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This is your brain on Sigmarxism

                Most of the human population is on hiveworlds, were they live in cramped and unclean conditions. And no, I don't get my fluff from tertiary sources as I have read a lot of the lore, it's just the setting has a very different tone than what most mods go for and I don't get the feeling of "grimdark" or hopelessness from them. It's rather disappointing

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You are a grimderp nomodels underage cuck who gets his fluff from tertiary homosexuals. You belong in the noose.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I mean I have several thousand models comprising of Chaos Space Marines, Necrons, Deathwatch, Death Guard, Orks, Dark Eldar, Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Tau, Tyranids, and Renegade Guard, not including my WFB miniatures. I am passionate about the setting

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                haha same

                fricking gay

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Post models or eat my turds and 41% ys TTScel.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This is your brain on Sigmarxism

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                One of the more famous book characters is literally a hooker

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If you mean Alizabeth Bequin, she was a pleasure girl for the elites on a world where a Slaaneshi cult was in control, which is not exactly average for the setting. (I'm assuming you're not referring to Ian Watson's Inquisitor because Jesus Christ.)

                I'm not saying sex doesn't happen at all in the setting, just that there is a huge disparity in the upper classes and the average human of the imperium. House Glaw isn't exactly "average." It's very likely that the corrupt aristocracy of several worlds are having sex for pleasure, but I'd imagine several guard regiments could live and die never seeing a woman.

                Tonally, sex serves to show how depraved certain cults and characters are more often then to serve any genuine human connection, which a "pleasure girl' doesn't serve and is more a means to an end.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You even get the Gregor novels' plot wrong, and it's fricking basic b***h entry level fluff. Stop embarrassing yourself.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I'd imagine several guard regiments could live and die never seeing a woman.
                Just shut the FRICK up already SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP GET OUT OF MY HOBBY

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Vostroyan Firstborn definitely has members in that camp

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They have mixed regiments, there is official art of female Vostroyans. Why do lorelets insist so much on btfoing themselves this bad?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >troonylore
              >troonymod
              It rhymes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          AHAUHAUHAUAHUAH

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus, they really did need Cylarne to tardwrangle them

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            AHAUHAUHAUAHUAH

            It's even worse

            They have no ability to have any discretion at what to include and just throw all their shit into a blender

            We need a /vst/ edition of of Uni that's trimmed down and sane. Doesn't even need to balanced or anything just not moronic and full of literal anime characters. Can be hhosted like pirated games

            It's worse. Sisters are full coomer at this point. 2B faces on the default sisters, the canoness has a new head that makes her look younger, etc.

            For reference, the models of the living saints predate the ones that Kek says is his property, as you can see in the veteran mod

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              What's the point of adding her anyway. She's a spaceship captain from 30k.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fan favorite character

                Obsession with named characters

                Because frick lore and we do what we want?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Remember: canon is flexible when COOM is on our minds!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Alright this post made me kek

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Don't get me started on the model they used for the outsider, who is canonically male, as they gave him the most overly sexualized design

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We need a /vst/ edition of of Uni that's trimmed down and sane. Doesn't even need to balanced or anything just not moronic and full of literal anime characters. Can be hhosted like pirated games

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Looking at the Uni models for the Necrons, I've realized a lot of them are just from Gladius.

    What a fricking joke.

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What's the DoW2 equivalent to this mod?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is this shit still worth playing? has the fps been fixed? i used to frick around with UA many years ago but as soon as there's too many units on the map it drops to like 2 fps and becomes unplayable even if u have strong hardware

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i haven't played this mod since the last version but i can safely say that this shit isn't worth it anymore
      these posts will tell you what you need to know

      That's the tip of the iceberg. Fatal Scar Errors for multiple races, requirements on buildings that don't exist and functions that don't work. Addon symbols for units with no addons, etc.

      It's a rushed, horrible mess of random bullshit thrown together almost entirely based on the creator's whims.

      Let's not forget how ugly the new nurgling models are (not in a good way), or how all the named characters not taken from other games looks like shit.

      Cylarne didn't call these people incompetent, but he should have. They left UA for this shit

      More shit: a certain necron instantly crashes the game viewing him the army painter, yor forgar is in the game just because, there's a race called "pepsi" in the game files

      This is not professional. It is a bunch of artists who know nothing of game design

      YOU CAN'T PLAY DEATH KORPS, YNNARI, OR CHAOS BECAUSE OF FATAL SCAR ERRORS

      THERE ARE MISSING TEXTURES AND MISSING MODELS EVERYWHERE

      nobody wins

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Those are all issues with Uni, not UA (which does have it's own issues, just not those).

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You need to have a 4gb patch installed or the engine can't handle it. From there it's a mixture of the app's 32 bit processor and your specs. It runs fine on my 2070 for reference.

      The engine is more likely to crash from complex events and fx than it is from models alone if you have the processor installed.

      Also to increase framerate after install, I recommend (assuming you installed it properly), the shortcuts in autoexec like shift-f6 to manually increase the framerate

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