I heard the Dreamcast has some affordable ODE, but the Saturn I’m not sure. Where should I start with this? I’m a pleb who just plugs all my retro shit into an OSSC with a flatscreen
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Why you bought things without doing research? Saturn Odes are expensive as shit especially the one that matters (Satiator)
The lesson here should be . Anyway, I hope you have fun with your new Saturn
It's still the PS3, but Saturn isn't that far off, sadly
>especially the one that matters (Satiator)
Fenrir Duo is superior.
12000¥ what a scam, Saturns in japan are dirty cheap
Got it at Retro Game Camp in Akihabara. Touristy area, touristy prices.
I wanted to buy a console I had no idea about and what to do. I was debating getting a Dreamcast instead but the Saturn seemed cooler. Other consoles I thought of getting were the PCFX or Neo Geo Pocket but those are impossible to find irl anymore.
If you were aware of that, why did you allow yourself to be gouged?
Are you a dumb dumb?
if he is taking a trip to akihabara then thats a trivial amount of money for him anon. not everyone is a poorgay
>I'll slurp up shitty prices and ruin the market because frick you.
die
It's $80. How is that too much for a console?
You paid at least 4 times what you needed to.
Scouring Tokyo would be more fun than going to shitty akiba.
You got scammed and paid the gaijin tax just so you could see some ninja maids handing out fliers while you did it.
Nothing to do with being poor or not. You're dumb.
>what you needed to
I'm not OP, moron. $80 is nothing if you are on a vacation in a foreign country. Why would you waste time trying to save $60
no saturn costs $20, that person is trying to be interesting
Just a quick search on Buyee. Hard-Off and local thrift stores are a lot cheaper
That one doesn't include a controller though.
That’s twice as much as what was already claimed. Why would you post this?
Is literally the first saturn i saw, and is like half of what OP payed for it If you look like 10min anywhere in japan you can buy it for far less
How is a store in akihabara going to make a profit selling them as cheap as places elsewhere? Are you moronic?
They'd make the same profit per unit if they were buying them at the same price as elsewhere (which they probably actually are), but still make a lot more money from volume sold. People wouldn't stop going to akiba if prices were cheaper. More people would go including non-tourists.
So to you:
>Are you moronic?
>a store with huge overhead in a city center can sell products at the same price as anywhere else
You've never ran a business
They could absolutely still make a profit selling at the same prices as elsewhere.
They can get away with charging more so they do, but to state that they have to is false.
Not necessarily, there are various expenses that depend on the area you're in from rent, electric, heat etc, the average pay of employees, factoring of any work done on the consoles. I don't suspect you buy anything if you don't understand this, it's the same sort of idiocy on Ganker when people see pokemon games are "expensive."
You can say they would have smaller margins than shops elsewhere, but we're not talking about proportional profit, just whether they would still be in the black or not.
With the crazy low prices they buy stuff at, they could definitely still be in the black selling stuff for what places outside akiba do.
You can keep trying to explain that the gaijin tax doesn't exist and say it's just a response to rent, heating, and employees, but the gap is too big to be explained by that.
The largest part of the gap is accounted for by people who don't know or care they are being grossly overcharged happily paying the grossly overblown prices.
I'm not a cheap or poor person, but I don't know how you can't feel like the world's biggest sucker paying 4x what you need to for something.
It's not even about the amount. If you paid 25 cents for a 5 cent candy, you should feel stupid.
If I was in a place where it costs 25 cents to sell candy I would gladly pay that. It's the cost of running a business in a tourist trap.
That's why tourist traps have a negative name and image and why people who go to them should be ridiculed.
But you ain't allowed to do that here for fear of being called a seething poorgay.
>but the gap is too big to be explained by that.
No, it's not.
Yes it is.
12000 for a Saturn is fricking outrageous and I can't believe there is anyone here thinking it's justifiable.
I bet they paid 1000 for it and a minimum wagey spent 10 minutes cleaning it and testing it.
Seems reasonable to me. It also guarantees a replacement if yours fails and pays for people to keep the shop open and support the lives of its employees.
Paying out the ass for a warranty on a used device is peak moron.
Buy whatever part you need and fix it yourself if your device breaks.
Also make a charitable donation if you want to give people a better life. Why does that need to be rolled into second-hand video game purchases?
>Also make a charitable donation if you want to give people a better life
It's better to support your local community and see them improve because it will directly improve your life too. Charities are all scams, this is a way of getting something for your value.
>Why does that need to be rolled into second-hand video game purchases?
Why not? Should stores not stand by their sales? You probably don't even stand by your posts, and you do those for free.
Apologies. Didn't realize you were such a saint just helping the destitute in your local community of Akihabara.
Keep it up, Good Samaritan.
And stores should absolutely stand by their sales and offer warranties that 99% of their customers will not be able to take advantage of because they live in a different country.
I have come around on this whole paying more thing.
I think I'll go down to my local Super Potato tomorrow and pay 50000 yen for a Sega Saturn tomorrow. I could use the good karma.
>whataboutism
Thank you for conceding.
>buzzword unrelated to anything
>yup I won the argument
lol
The word you were looking for was sarcasm, you goof.
You're riding OP's shitty-price-accepting, tourist-trap-loving dick so hard I really hoped you were him.
Not him but why are you so mad about something that doesn't even affect you lmao
The market being fricked by morons affects me as another participant in the market, moron.
>he doesnt understand economic
don't feel bad, man. not everybody does.
If the market is filled with people who will accept exorbitant prices, will that have no effect on prices overall?
Why is wrong to want people in the market to be informed and discerning?
People that have real jobs would rather pay for convenience than spend hours scouring flea markets in the hopes of maybe saving 5 bucks.
Nice job painting the situation as uncharitably as possible.
The real situation is paying 60 USD (far more in other currencies) more than necessary for an item that can just as easily be found outside of tourist traps.
Saturns are not rare in Japan and don't require scouring to find.
It's a matter of principle.
You shouldn't enjoy being ripped off just because you aren't struggling financially.
Yeah, I bought my American one for $50 over 10 years ago at an overpriced retro game store. That was before Saturn emulation was generally passable let alone good and the only option for games was a mod chip because they were really the expensive part.
I know you think videogames should be dirt cheap, but commodities are weighed and measured by the market, not your headcanon. People want videogames. I was like you at first, but then I realized it's also a good thing. I like that old games are seen as valuable and an investment. You just want them to be worthless and people throw them away like they were doing? So you can get "lel epic game" by dumpster diving? I don't understand your logic here. If you were already in the collecting game before 2016, then you would've had everything you wanted for pennies on the dollar, BUT, if you are new to collecting, then you're a bandwagoner like every other frick who "pushes up the market prices".
>I know you think videogames should be dirt cheap
yes
>but commodities are weighed and measured by the market, not your headcanon
Yes, that's why I'd like participants in the market to not be moronic.
>I like that old games are seen as valuable and an investment
gross
He will be soon, paying those prices. Its like living in california, even if you are not poot it will make you poor
Poors are almost never gays. It's why they're poor
You should already know that but maybe you're stupid
what the frick are you talking about? poorgays aren't gays?
I'm not going to go scouring all over Tokyo just to save a few thousand yen.
I paid 3000 for mine just a few months ago. 12000 is really a scam.
Did you get it online? After perusing Akiba I've concluded you unironically get better prices on Yahoo Japan or just online in general. After "the 'vid" I'm pretty sure all the shop landlords knew filthy 外国人 would come back to Japan and gobble all the retro stuff up. 0/10 would not go to Akiba to look for retro stuff
Yeah online. Even with shipping and customs I still paid half or less than that.
Saroo and pseudo Saturn are cheap, now shit the frick up and go play bug too and Mr. Bones
Not OP, is there a compatibility list for Sarao?
have a nice day moronic subhuman
but it came with a free cr2032!
Odes are pretty much on the cusp of obsolescence for Saturn. Just grab a saroo flashcart. Compatibility is like 90% at this point and improves with every update. It's the cheapest solution and has the best features by far. If you get an ode, you have to pick up a memory/ram expansion cartridge to go with it. Saroo does everything right out of the cart slot, and much faster than anything else.
Thanks for the intro. I'll look into it
That was nice they gave you a battery too, get a fenrir and the psuedo saturn kai cart for the 1+4meg ram expansion and the nice pskai ui. They're on sale right now from china, with the other cart I'd recommend being only $22.
What kind of moron buys something without any sort of clue about it? You're an idiot
>What kind of moron
OP.
why does the saturn have a cartridge slot? When was this ever used?
For 32X games
Saturn: The Nogames Machine
>OSSC
Would an OSSC work well with a Wii? Or should I get a Wii2HDMI?
Would work fine for 480p but it's bad for 480i because deinterlacing sucks wiener on the ossc.
okay, I already have an OSSC 1.6 from 2017, and I have Wii component cables, so perhaps that's enough.
But if Wii2HDMI is better then I'm open to that too
>Want to use discs and ODE
Satiator
>Just want to use ODE
Fenrir
Also have a nice day for contributing to the problem, tourist.
Fenrir ODEs are pretty cheap compared to the competition. Other than that, your options are the MODE or the Satiator. You could get a Pseudo Saturn cart and stack of blank CD-Rs too.
Saturn has my favorite version of Tomb Raider. Purely for nostalgic reasons. Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2 are great rail shooters, and I like Nights Into Dreams. Also, the English translations of Bulk Slash, Policenauts and J. B. Harold: Blue Chicago Blues are fun.
Lot of seething poorgays on here
Lot of Americans showing why the American retro game market is so convenient and wonderful to participate in, as well.
I'll never understand this shit. I'm a poorgay and love selling my stuff at a high price to people with money to waste. Both of us win. They get convenience and I get paid.
Kind of like those people who are subscribed to those stupid grocery service things where they deliver specific groceries to make meals out of for five times the price of just going to the grocery store 5 minutes down the road.
>Saturn with an OSSC
Bad idea. Saturn games are constantly switching between 240p and 480i, and a lot of games have their main gameplay in 480i.
So you're gonna want a scaler that has a framebuffer and good deinterlacing. GBS-C is perfect for Saturn gaming.
what about a retrotink 5x?
Playing video games is one of the cheapest hobbies in the universe. You can buy a game for $20 and get dozens of hours of entertainment out of it but poorgays will still whine and complain like it's some kind of financial holocaust.
It becomes very easy to tell who is unemployed in these threads.
Oohh a japan saturn. Its wonderful.
Its incredible that they figured out how to make white plastic that doesnt turn yellow.
They didn't.
Most of them are yellow.
OP paid that premium unyellowed price that eludes us poorgays and causes us to seethe.
Don't you dare say he was overcharged.
I see no reason at all to buy these other than the fps ports and shmup ports but I've been told the former weren't that great for it so I can't make an excuse to buy this other than the console design always looks cool for sega and that's not a good enough reason
Saturns really cost less than $50? And people are telling OP payed too much for his $80?
This made me interested in getting one. Whats the best place to buy them when you dont live in nipland? Ebay or is there a dedicated site for it? And will it play US games?
Yea, OP got a good deal actually. It looks practically brand new. Don't let it ever see direct sunlight.
Stuff that's never seen sunlight can yellow too.
My theory is that it is heat cycling in general that does it more than UV.
Seems plausible, light use will probably help it retain its non yellowed condition.
>There's a non-ruined market somewhere? How can I ruin it ASAP?
Glad I already got my 2000 "junk" Saturn that works perfectly.
2000 yen
Imagine being this poor that $50 is an issue for you
Imagine being so American that you need every market to be as shitty as yours because you're an uninformed, undiscerning moron who inflates the value of nostalgia far beyond a reasonable level.
Imagine getting this angry over a trivial amount of money. Why aren't you worried about the other thousands of dollars he wasted by going to a tourist trap that overprices everything? The convenience of the purchase was worth overpaying. It would cost him more to waste time.
If had read the thread I did say he should be ridiculed for going to a tourist trap.
Akiba is a meme and he is a baka gaijin.
Also it's not a trivial thing because OP is one of thousands on a conveyer belt of morons rolling into Japan and filling suitcases with a bunch of overpriced shit.
It has and will continue to have a big impact on prices overall.
It's already basically over. The prices in Japan aren't even good anymore anywhere. They just look preferable to the absolute insanity of the American market.
Soon they'll be the same and it didn't need to be this way so quickly.
/vr/ getting this uppity and preachy about a $78 saturn in good shape is comical. Pretending this has any impact on the market as a whole is exactly what one should expect from Ganker pearl clutching concern trolls.
>thousands of foreigners buying up stock at high prices has no impact on the market
aight bud
You will never be japanese
>b-but in my head!
Anyway, yen is at an all time low again, time to import.
It's been happening insanely slowly, you're simply late to this and are feeling sore about this because you read someone bought a saturn for $15 in 2002 and are upset you can't find that deal today.
I bought one for 2000 yen in 2020.
I have most of what I want.
Just think the sentiment of
>being ripped off is good and if you disagree you're a poorgay
is odd.
Anyhow, carry on.
why do you care so much? why should electronics have a degrading value despite a decreasing supply and raising demand?
It's inevitable, I agree. It doesn't need to happen so fricking fast though.
>he
>him
>I'm totally en tee ay and not just OP trying desperately to defend myself for getting scammed
>i-it's t-totally a waste of time to sit on a train and go to a better town with better food and everything costing half as much I l-like it when I leave the store and all the Japanese employees laugh at me for being moronic, h-heh...
>everyone on Ganker is the same person
>giving a shit about $50
Seething poorgay
>Nooo how dare you show interest in the Saturn!!!! You aren't allowed to buy one unless you got it at launch in '95
moron
who are you quoting?
just buy them on discs bro