I have yet to see a compelling reason for why the mere concept or introduction of aliens is acceptable for fantasy games.
I have yet to see a compelling reason for why the mere concept or introduction of aliens is acceptable for fantasy games.
I have yet to see a compelling reason for why the mere concept or introduction of aliens is acceptable for fantasy games.
Why not?
I have yet to see a compelling reason for why it's unacceptable
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Because
What's the problem with that?
Isn't Hero's of Might and Magic also similar with how demons were basically aliens?
Might and Magic is Science Fantasy through and through, it goes beyond just Inferno Town
True, and the angels from the Castle town were andriods.
It's been part of the genre since 1933's Conan story Tower of the Elephant featuring the alien Yag-kotha, predating the release of the Hobbit.
You're that autist who had a melty over the existence of science fantasy games, aren't you?
Here's a compelling reason for you.
Me on the left.
wait is the alien prego?
fantasy doesn't mean dnd core rules book
That was a fantastic addition it was done well
It suits the fantasy setting because of the stargazer/astrologer stuff.
Why not, creatures from the stars coming down to earth is really cool.
scifi makes fantasy better as long as it isnt hard sci fi
>he presumes events in these games aren't real at strange junctures
Reminder that the term xeno is used towards other humans.
What you exactly mean are space aliens, and those, too, were in fantasy.
Lunarians, for instance, Christianty through eldritch lens, the entire Cthulhu Mythos, literally any "plane" of existence, etc.
Yeah, it really fricked Warcraft over in the long run with space demon orcs
Nah. It's just that Blizzard rotted away and/or got corrupted, like numerous other things in reality, at the moment.
I can't believe I see this one on 4ch. Shit, I was playing this in 97th I think
you make it sound like this is a personal affront to you.
on what planet are aliens not acceptable for fantasy games?
aliens are no different than angels/demons or other extra planar beings.
Angels and demons don't do anal probing though
>demons don't do anal probing though
you sure about that
Anal stuff maybe, but not probing
>Hey! What's is it you're trying to put into my ass?!
>Uuuhhhh.... It's a, umm... a probe? Yeah. We're probing you, this is purely for scientific purposes. What, did you think we were some dumb demons or what, lol?
You gullible fool.
The answer is literally in the name you absolute moron.
IMO Elden Ring didn’t get cosmic enough. If Bloodborne was more Lovecraft horror with dimensions and nightmare realms, ER should have expanded on the stars and outer gods or various ethereal beings. Astel is tied to a long extensive quest which is fine but otherwise completely unrelated to the main game. The Alabaster Lords are aliens but theres like 3 of them in the entire world. The Fallingstar Beasts are just juvenile Astels and then you have Elden Beast. A Shardbearer or an entire dungeon should have taken place on another planet somehow or they should have really dived into what the Numen are. Sucks cause the DLC is just gonna be the player transported to the past to fight Godwyn.
>IMO Elden Ring didn’t get cosmic enough
Agree and disagree. On the one hand, I was frustrated by how little of it there was compared to the other standard fantasy stuff, bit on the other, only hinting at it makes it more mysterious and compelling. You wouldn't care as much about the Alabaster/ Onyx Lords if they showed up all the time: when I first saw one step out of a portal in a metro pocked field, my mind was blown. Hard to recreate that if you overuse the enemy. There's probably a way to explore that side of things more without overdoing it, but it would be a tightrope act to get it right.
>Sucks cause the DLC is just gonna be the player transported to the past to fight Godwyn
Yeah, that's the safe and predictable path they'd take: probably a quest where you use a Black Knife to kill him, and set the game's events in motion. Kind of like going back in time and killing Manus in DaS. We'll still probably get some more ayys in the DLC, though.
Doing an Artorias of the Abyss would signal that From is creatively bankrupt and you shouldn't buy anything fantasy themed they release after Elden Ring.
I really hope that the fact that the DLC is taking so fricking long means that it will be a true expansion instead of a couple of areas. If it's suitably large, then one of the components being a AoTA rehash wouldn't be intolerable.
Creatively bankrupt, as you say, but tolerable.
They're not going to announce it until after ACVI, though, which is insane.
It'll still take place on the inevitable DLC island/pocket dimension/time paradox that is physically and narratively disconnected from the main game.
>Cover shows the Erdtree taken over by Deathblight
>Hurr durr set in the past
morons
Promo art means jack shit.
>Cover shows the Erdtree taken over by Deathblight
Speculation. Also, doesn't make much sense narratively. The presence of Miquella on Torrent implies it's set in the past, and Godwyn as Prince of Death was barely able to interact with the world outside of a few Basilisks and Deathroots: the entire point of Fia's quest would be nullified by Godwyn poisoning the Erdtree.
The DLC is set in the spirit world. The greattree used to exist there, with its roots peeking from over the ground in the material realm and giving birth to dragons. Marika used the Elden ring to destroy the tree and turn it upside down.
Source?
I would eat my hat if the DLC expanded on and affected the main story. But From always plays it safe. You will end up in the past or in another dimension, fighting Erdtree Knight Flail or meeting Young Godfrey to collect the roots of the Erdtree so Miquellas long lost sister can make a new painting and the final boss will look like Manus.
>IMO Elden Ring didn’t get cosmic enough
Prerelease the meme was that aliens would be a massive reveal in the second half and that the whole game was secretly scifi
Laser swords, exploring a derelict UFO and stuff
I never bothered to play it but I'm guessing this doesn't happen
Not only are there no remnants of flying saucers, you won't understand the plot even after beating the game.
I was pushing this hard on Ganker. Miyazaki always said he wanted to do sci-fi, and the hints were there that Elden Ring would have elements that weren't traditionally fantasy.
Disappointing.
Lovecraft
>ancient peoples of literally every single culture obsessed with the sky
>many of them have complex astrological systems of thought
>convinced the stars and planets influence events on earth if not outright control them
>sometimes asteroids fall to earth and are assumed to either be stars, divine beings, or the iron from them becomes revered (Aztec iron knives, the Graal)
>sometimes they "attack" cities (Qingyang)
>many of the gods are said to either be or live among the stars
Honestly it makes a load of sense. The ancient aliens guys are almost right, but they're too wrapped up in the idea of ayy lmaos and flesh and blood greys in flying saucers rather than the more ethereal, godlike air these cultures saw the stars with.
Aztecs had the whole end of the world sacrifices to the sun thing, right? Easily cosmic horror.
God damn I fricking hate ancient alien bullshit so much.
>buhhh all the ancient people knew about stars and shit and had myths about them, how could they all figure out stars without ayy lmaos helping, obviously people were braindead morons until the modern era
my Black person they looked up
why do you insist on sounding like a Black person
>cosmic horror isn't fantasy
Fantasy is called fantasy because the dramatic universe is built around that narrative. This meant that ANYTHING could be implemented into a fantasy setting, just use a fantasy narrative to justify it.
Dragons could easily be fricking aliens, but under the fantasy setting, they are called Dragons, gods, or whatever.
Astel is the creature from the void, from the stars (fantasy setting), you are calling it an Alien (sci fi setting).
What's next? We can't travel through dimensions or time travel? We can't have something like energy beams because those would be lasers?
I agree. Frick planets and frick aliens.
Astel looks fricking dope, how can anyone see that design and think "NO GET THIS BADASS THING OUT OF MY GAME"
There is literally no reason that Fantasy stories can't have aliens. Fantasy =/= Tolkien ripoff
That said Valinor is the equivalent of an offworld orbital colony.
i've yet to see a compelling reason for why from decided to lock astel's clone grab to a second fight that has nothing to do with his initial climatic encounter
If people in your fantasy setting have a decent understanding of what stars and planets are, I don't see why it'd be weird.
It'd automatically make the setting more interesting that one where people are still believing in their version of the biblical cosmology.
Where is bottom half from?
Genrebending in a way that makes complete sense in the games lore is utter kino
It could be completely hamfisted like the fantasy elements in Destiny, but in ER sci fi is implemented excellently
you're an idiot OP.. If this is your thought process, you will never accomplish anything of value in your life.
smt should've won
snk brainrotted the media
It's fantasy, that's already a compelling reason
You're free to do whatever you want instead of copying Tolkien or whatever
Because if it's like Rayman 2 it begins with everyone getting their shit kicked in by Aliens because as it turns out Guns > Magic
Granted the ending implies God kicked everyone's collective asses
Why shouldn't it be?
Plus, sci-fi and fantasy have been intermingling for pretty much as long as those genres have been around.
Aliens don't exist in real life
PROOFS?
seen any latelly?
yeah, they're all over in asia bro
I wonder what she's up to these days
honestly that webm is the only good content that she ever produced so who really cares lol..
Creatures from beyond is practically baby’s first fantasy twist
What are the baby's second, third, fourth and fifth fantasy twists?
Ancient aliens
Aliens are actually demons
Humans are the aliens
Aliens are amongus
"what if magic medieval dudes stumbled on scifi stuff" has been rehashed in the genre for half a century at this point, get over it zoomy