I just played this for the first time and it's good and all, and when it came out it might have been revolutionary, but what the frick is up with people acting like it ressurected their long-lost loved one? It's not THAT good.
It's only /slightly/ better than RE5, yet nobody speaks about RE5 even close to the same manner as RE4.
nintendo kids who owned a gamecube had very few good games to play as usual so yeah its overrated by them, same with ocarina and whatever shit there was on n64
That's what I've been thinking, or more specifically that it was nostalgia-goggles.
Reading the /glowing/ comments about the game, they almost always mention how much they played it 'when they were a kid'.
You don't actually realize how truly overrated RE4 is until you play Dead Space 2 and the Remake.
In my opinion, you actually need the experience of playing RE4 (2005) before both of these. Because the jarring realization that all the tension I felt in my first playthrough was superficial, and that this game is ABSURDLY simple, when I beat the opening village fight in like 30 seconds (it felt like) was crazy. It almost broke my mind. I literally just ran away from villagers, shot at their slow walking faces, kicked all of them, and then repeated until I got a grenade and blew up the bunch that was chasing me. It was unbelievable to me. But it didn't truly set in until I remembered an anon a long time ago that said DS2 is better than RE4 and it's not even a question, so I downloaded and played DS2 recently and...holy frick, even if you disagree about gameplay (which would be ridiculous because it mogs RE4R unbelievably there too) The PACING is so fricking superior it feels like butter going through the game. After every chapter in my first time playing RE4, id feel bored and like putting down the game, but in Dead Space 2, Im literally needing to consciously tell myself "I'll stop at the next save point" and then I get there and move forward and have to tell myself that again.
RE4 isn't just overrated. I legitimately think it's a shit game now. After all my experiences with TPS games as of late. It has simply been FAR surpassed. And no, I wouldn't even say by its own Series, because I think the Remake is shit too now.
Dead Space 2 would not exist without RE4 you complete homosexual. It basically innovated the entire TPS genre
>It basically innovated the entire TPS genre
Lol. No it didn't. One single camera change doesn't = innovation. Genuinely as moronic as pretending the first game to go 3rd person was innovative. Somebody would have brought Over the Shoulder to fruition eventually. None of the ACTUAL gameplay parts of RE4 actually carried on to most games. Yes Dead Space is clearly the outlier that's inspired by it, but I don't give a frick about the original, if the successor is infinitely better. Nobody is making an argument about RE4's existence. Only unironic pathetic midwits that can't actually make a case for or articulate why something as good essentially refer to "OMG is influential or innovative" Things that actually have NOTHKNG to do with gameplay, but people's perception of that game instead.
ESPECIALLY when you consider the abundance of games that did things first that were forgotten in place of Nintendo games because people are unironic bots and endlessly want to prop up their favourite popular well known iconic games because it makes them feel better to affirm the recognizable.
have a nice day moron.
>DUDE SOMEONE ELSE WOULD'VE DONE IT BUT UHHHHH THEY DIDNT!
Not reading the rest of your moronic meltdown.
>No argument
>Doesn't even have the capacity to articulate something actually about the game without referring to arbitrary perceptions.
Don't care. Feel whatever way you want. I'm right in the end. Go jerk yourself off about how right you actually felt while making no argument.
So innovating an entire genre =/= innovation? You really need me to explain why RE4 is good? Because it controls smoothly, is very replayable, has a beloved campy action story that is still remembered fondly, has tight pacing, runs well, has engaging gameplay, revitalized its own already legendary series, looked amazing, and it invented an entirely NEW GENRE of fricking video games. The same genre that you are creaming your pants over because someone else was inspired by how fricking good it was
>Because it controls smoothly
The camera is the opposite of smooth tbh.
I like fixed cameras, don't get me wrong, but I feel like RE4 wasn't supposed to feel like a fixed camera, but it functioned better if you didn't move it too much.
This is gaming's equivalent of "The Beatles weren't even that influential"
>"The Beatles weren't even that influential"
Do you consider kpop 'influential'? They make billions a year. But only women like kpop.
Likewise, only women like The Beatles. They are practically the historical kpop fad.
I have no idea how influential kpop is because there isn't 50 years of musical influence to be seen after the fact.
If you listen to music that's influenced by The Beatles, you gay or a woman.
>I don't like this franchise, I like an unrelated franchise
Terrific insight cheers lad. And I like RE classic (so up to 4, arguably) and found Dead Space boring as frick because it's just a super easy shooter in a dull aesthetic that makes you repeat the game half way through.
This guy's right. Dead space is cool and all but by the middle of the game you're really fed up with the same necromorphs coming out of ventilation shafts. RE4 always throw something new at you despite the game being super long.
>always throw something new at you
Like what?
play the game and you'll see
Well, you have shield humans, ranged humans, dogs, invisible enemies, metal humans, blind humans.
Yes, there's a lot of /little/ variation in enemies. Nothing drastic, I felt. Certainly not enough to say it's dramatically more than DS2.
Stupid homosexual.
You know what, you're right (I have played DS2 but not RE4R).
I was trying to give it some credit since it might have been revolutionary when it came it, but it really is kinda stale. It feels like a shooting gallery.
Having finished it, I was thinking about re-playing it for NG+ but, really thinking about it, I find myself have to force myself to want to do so. I actually don't want to re-play it at all. It's boring.
I'm not a zoomer; my parents never bought video games for me as a child. I have money to buy it myself now.
Sorry not all of us live your Americana life.
RE4 literally turned RE into a normie-bait, attracting the CoD audiences.
It's a great game, far better than RE5 and up.
Crapcom was doing very bad business decisions in the early 2000s, namely making all the RE games of the era NGC exclusive.
Had the execs not gone against Mikami's wishes soon after RE4's release and released it on PS2 as well, this game would've faced the same fate as the REmake1: been a neat hidden gem that only HC fans silly enough to buy a Gamecube got to play.
>You don't actually realize how truly overrated RE4 is until you play Dead Space 2 and the Remake.
Imagine unironically believing this, zoom zoom.
Dead Shit was always crap, and the DEmake butchers every single thing.
nostalgia is a hell of a drug didn’t become a popular phrase for no reason
Bullshit. Most older games are just better. I played many old games of the in the last years I've never experienced in my youth and I had to admit that most of the are much, much better than modern games.
JAPANESE games are better.
Most 'classic' games are Japanese.
Just play modern Japanese games and you'll get the same experience as playing retro games.
I played mostly western games in the last years. Baldurs Gate 1/2, Jedi Outcast, Deus Ex, Utlima VII, etc.
All of them were better than their modern counterparts.
Those games are all entirely different than their modern counterparts, it's an apples to oranges comparison. Except Ultima, I have no idea what a modern Ultima game is like.
Yes, modern western games are trash, but that's what reviewers wanted so that's what we got.
That's why Japanese games died and western trash thrives: reviewers.
I don't know if you were around for it but back in the 2010s they REALLY dictated what types of games get made.
https://www.siliconera.com/acquire-developers-on-how-a-cancelled-way-of-the-samurai-5-led-to-katanakami/
'Saito: “It was around 2015, the release of the Steam version of Way of the Samurai 4 on PC. The PC version, based on the console version and aimed towards overseas audience, only received a metascore of 72, and personally even I felt that the time for the series had come to an end'.
if you're listing Jedi Outcast over Dark Forces II, or even listing Ultima VII or Deus Ex at all. you didnt have high standards in the first place.
Wow you don't get the same impact from a game after playing the subsequent 20 years of games released since then that's crazy
I'm happy the industry is creatively dead so zoomerturds won't ever discover how it feels to pass a technological breakthrough in video games.
I forgot: RE4 isn't even scary. A common complaint I hear against RE5 is that it's not scary, but RE4 is not scary either.
So, really thinking about it, RE5 IS better than RE4 (only, MAYBE, the setting of RE4 is better).
none of the resident evil games are scary. They're way too goofy and over the top to be taken seriously. Village for example gave us the lamesty werewolves in media history.
I played RE4 for the first time and it was instantly my number 1 shooter. Never played a action game with such a good pacing.
Same goes for the RE4 Remake. I played 4 play throughs right after I bought it at the release
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> they almost always mention how much they played it 'when they were a kid'.
RE4 is genuenly one of the best games ever made and if you didn't notice the things it did almost perfectly then you shouldn't be one of those people that shoild have an opinion.
just because you and others are capable of making posts here doesn't mean that your words have any value
i am sure that there is at least one moron friendly youtube video that goes over all the mechanics of the game and why it is so good while having a temple run video in the corner that you can watch
give it a try, you gorilla monkey
RE5 is a refined version of RE4.
RE5 has horrible pacing.
Example.
Lol
Lmao even
Re5 is a shittier re4 with far worse gunplay that is nothing but a greatest hits of copied re4 set pieces chapter agree chapter with added co-op to shut the Black folk and self hating whites crying racism at the reveal trailer. The game could and should have been so much more. It's literally 1/3 the length of re4 as well. And again, every single bit of re5 is just "member re4?" because it was a huge transition from SD to HD and Capcom basically just copied what worked, almost too much. There is literally nothing Re5 has over 4 outside of coop. Everything in 5 is a copied segment from 4.
>with far worse gunplay
The gunplay is one of the things that is infinitely better.
>Everything in 5 is a copied segment from 4.
With better mechanics, which is what I meant by a 'refined version of RE4'.
It's not as revolutionary as RE4 but, if you don't consider their release dates, RE5 is a RE-FIN'D version of RE4. I mean, you literally wrote about how RE5 is just a re-fined version of RE4.
No, Re5 has forced and awful cover mechanics. Re5 has an awful zoomed our camera in corridors. Re5 gunplay, especially shotguns, does not have the oomph that re4 does. All of the balancing is different. The enemies are different and far worse to actually fight. You are sincerely a moron. No wonder you like Re5 more.
>Re5 has forced and awful cover mechanics.
moron who didnt play RE4 AT FRICKING ALL
Literally ones segment in re4 has cover mechanics and it's when ganado throw dynamite at you in 1-2 in the warehouse
the last segment of merc island had you taking cover against dudes that shot RPGs at you.
frick off.
>Re5 has forced and awful cover mechanics
Forced? I never used them.
>especially shotguns, does not have the oomph that re4 does
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The guns are more proportionate in RE5. Yes, the 9mm pistols feel weak, maybe as they should, but the Magnum revolver feels MUCH better than it does in RE4.
In RE4, the magnum revolver feels weak.
And no, just because it copies the set prices doesn't make it refined. The village 1-1 copy is worse. The El Gigantes are worse. The del lago copy is worse. The island escalation (boat) is worse. The regenerator copy (bug ohko enemy) is worse. The chainsaw majini are worse than the chainsaw ganado (except on pro they are kino)
They are mechanically better.
Africa justy looks ugly compared to the gothic atmosphere of 4. Plus its a buggy mess.
>doesn't mean that your words have any value
I've heard this exact phrase uttered by droning morons so many times. I wonder if you guys read the same argument pamphlet or something.
Remake is far better
also filtered
Baby's first RE game. It's pretty good but it killed survival horror forever, I wonder how the series would have turned out if REmake released on the PS2 instead of the Gamecube.
RE7 and RE2 Remake were both leaning more towards horror than action if that's your complaint, seems like the series is swapping back and forth now. But RE was always half horror and half action movie
Any sacred cow game is good because It just is, ok? You just had to be there, it was so influential. No, I haven't actually played it.
this is a bait thread but I decided to play through re4 again last week with the hdproject mod after trying out remake and had a blast now im making my way through separate ways while waiting for the remake one to be cracked.
https://www.re4hd.com/?page_id=9303
Ew, a commie.
sounds like someone needs to take their meds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism
'The collaborative development of free software like the Linux operating system and applications such as OpenOffice clearly approximate an informational anarchist communism. Moreover, for anarchists it is precisely the logic of expropriation and electronic piracy that enables a radical political extension of the cultural ideals of the free manipulation, circulation and use of information associated with the "hacker ethic" (Himanen 2001). The space of illegality created by P2P (peer-to-peer) file-sharing opens up the possibility, not only of the open circulation of freely-given information and software as it is on the Internet today, but also of conscious copyright violation. The Internet, then, enables not only communist relations around information, but also the militant contamination and erosion of non-communist regimes of knowledge—a technological "weapon" to equalise access to information, eating away at intellectual property rights by rendering them unenforceable'.
oh you were upset about the piracy I thought you were a deranged schizo but no you're just pretending to be moronic ok nevermind my mistake
Selfish mother fricker.
>you only like RE4 because of nostalgia
>it isn't as good as [game that released when I was 17]