Is it too much to ask ?
>Ashes of Creation
>Riot's MMO
>Archeage 2
Which one will be worth wasting my adult life on ?
I just want a good MMO
Is it too much to ask ?
>Ashes of Creation
>Riot's MMO
>Archeage 2
Which one will be worth wasting my adult life on ?
If you wanna play an MMO, just go outside bro LMAO
>LMMOAO
>Vaporware
>Riot's MMO is mostly made by WoW devs and will be a shitty WoW clone
>Trusting Archeage ever
MMO's are dead because 90% of what made them fun and interesting was been usurped by the discord and wiki's. There is no budget or game on earth that can satisfy the loot treadmill shit that modern MMO pigs want and even XIV has given up on trying to release content on a regular schedule and they were the best at it.
MMO's as you know them from anime and your dreams was barely real to begin with and will never exist again. Best to make peace with that.
>There is no budget or game on earth that can satisfy the loot treadmill
That is quite literally the problem with modern MMOs. Get rid of that shit, get rid of iLVLs. get rid of raid/dungeon finder, get rid of flying, get rid all of the conveniences that do nothing but make the world feel empty. Bring back PvP, bring back friction, bring back player drama, bring back exploration, bring back risk and reward, bring back character building, bring back MMORPGs
homie just play ultima outlands
I'm sick of garbage jrpgs i want to be addicted to an MMO again
That indie Runescape/Tibia clone with a forgettable name that was shilled yesterday and got utterly shat on by everyone unironically looked kinda nice to me (I do not care about graphics)
Riot's MMO will at least have a playerbase for a while. Probably worth playing for a few months. It will of course be pozzed as frick though
>Ashes of Creation
Vaporware like all kickstarter MMOs. Overpromises and underdelivers.
>Riot's MMO
Has a chance at being decent. How badly monetization or esports fricks it over remains to be seen.
>Archeage 2
Did you mean "Archeage 20"? Anyone that still expects anything from that is beyond merely naive and in the territory of irredeemably moronic.
>Has a chance at being decent. How badly monetization or esports fricks it over remains to be seen.
Judging by their other games only cosmetics will be monetized
I'm only excited for Archage 2, the gameplay looks really good for an MMO. Hope it doesn't get ruined by greed this time.
>Hope it doesn't get ruined by greed this time.
it will, it's korean.
I just want a MMO with combat that feels as good as Tera's.
>Hope it doesn't get ruined by greed this time.
You poor soul. It will be even worse than the first.
>I just want a MMO with combat that feels as good as Tera's.
bdo too bad the rest of the game is shit
I haven't played it enough for my opinion to truly matter but it didn't put me in a flow state the way Tera did. I think Tera's animations were a masterclass when it came to readability and amount of particle effects (prior to the reaper). BDO looks pretty unreadable and it gets even worse at higher levels.
Yeah I actually spent hours studying TERA's animations. There was a glitch where you can go slow motion and seeing the animations slowed down was honestly breathtaking. Never seen a game like it.
Didn't BDO have slow-mo in the game?
yes it is too much to ask.
>shit
>shit
>shit
come home, white man
Just get a job.
>Ashes of creation
Looks like absolute shit. I have no clue how people can look at that trash and think it looks good or any of the moronic ideas it has. It has a lot of ideas that only sound cool in your head because you embellish them about how cool it could be without actually playing it.
>Riot's MMO
It could be good but we know basically nothing about it. For an MMO to be succesful it needs a ton of money and a big name to draw in a crowd to establish a good population. Riot has both, its just if they drop the ball or not. Hopefully since stuff like LoL is a pvp game it will have decent pvp and open world pvp. If its an mmo with open world pvp without a horrible system like ashes of creations corruption system, thats enough for me to play it.
>Archeage 2
Looks like it will be a game that will at least be fun to get to max but end game will probably just be autism.
The problem is open world pvp mmo attracts a certain kind of player, and that kind of player really likes to make other players miserable. the miserable players leave and the pvper doesn't really ever spend enough money to make up that lost revenue. Just the notion of open pvp is enough to dissuade players who would otherwise spend money.
Did you forget that WoW was open-world PvP, even at it's peak popularity?
Did you forget that was 15 years ago? and the equivalent demographic in 2023 was raised like women, by women
Survival and BRs are extremely popular these days. Don't know why you think the modern generation wouldn't enjoy an MMO w/ open-world PvP
because they have survival and BRs. why would these people with competitive brainworms play a genre were every single instance of world pvp isn't decided by skill but is instead just gear
Because then anyone can win and not just Gregor
Anyone can win with SBMM. Just win the coin flip!
There is no SBMM in survival games, Gregor will win every time.
Unless the level gap is large, skill does play a factor into MMO PvP
Modern "MMOs" are barely MMOs to begin with. Who cares what a bunch of gays that need the game to find players for them thinks? MMORPGs are one of the few genres that have not grown ever since gaming exploded into mainstream. I don't think any MMO has even hit 2m subs except WoW.
>Who cares what a bunch of gays that need the game to find players for them thinks?
Devs do. They have to pander to these pepple because they're the only ones still playing mmos.
>MMORPGs are one of the few genres that have not grown ever since gaming exploded into mainstream.
They haven't grown at all. They all copy the same formula from over two decades ago.
>I don't think any MMO has even hit 2m subs except WoW.
Lineage 1, Lineage 2 and Aion had over 2 million at their peak. No idea about XIV since Square doesn't publish their player numbers, but judging from their earnings reports, it's likely that xiv has a few million subs too.
An MMO without world pvp isn't worth playing, it becomes a sterile; boring world without danger. Might as well play a regular multiplayer co-op game at that point, those do a better job at combat and PvE anyway.
imagine being such a wuss
just the way zoomers are. If its not going to remotely entertain the idea of a level playing field, they won't care. These are the same homosexuals who care about tier lists and meta and will complain endlessly about some perceived "balance" issue. You don't want these Black folk playing your game.
theres too many people who are either full time NEETs or crushed by the grind of modern work life for MMOs to ever be remotely balanced again. you will always be left behind unless you are a fricking loser NEET who has no shame about investing 100% of their time and effort into a fake life because theres a lot of other weak homosexuals desperately looking for any escape
its over
Most modern MMOs have weekly caps on progression so you don't need to poopsock in order to compete.
And that makes them shit.
Poopsockers should by right have an advantage. Because if you can't get ahead by spending time on an MMO, the only alternative is that you can only get ahead by spending more money on it, which is always worse.
If you can't put at least 6 hours every day into an MMO, why are you even playing?
Your time is over poopsocker, most devs realized how destructive your behavior is and they'll do anything to prevent you from ruining the game for everyone. You can always go back to vanilla WoW PS's and grind rank 14 again though.
ah, yeah
that's why every single overly casualized MMO fails out the gate
the time of the poopsocker is over!
just ignore that EQ put out an expansion in Oct and is going to release another in fall of this year
90% of players don't poopsock and 99.9% of players don't play EQ.
it doesn't matter, the poopsockers are part of the equation, just like the pvp no lifers
when the game is in lull mode between content updates, the poopsockers and pvpers will continue to play and invest time/money into the machine so the casual can come and go
think of it like a gym, there has to be balance, you cannot just rely on new years resolution gays to keep you alive, but you also can't entirely cater to the powerlifters because they destroy all the equipment
Your gym analogy doesn't really work here, poopsockers demand an extremely grindy time sink or else they run out of content really quickly and complain. Normal players don't want their games to be excessively grindy, since the overwhelming majority of players aren't poopsockers it makes sense to tailor the games for them.
because you give them an extremely grindy timesink that they won't exhaust
it's really simple, older MMOs had this figured out until they decided that "you can do EVERYTHING" was the way to go and now we have shit like WoW and FFXIV stinking up the place
People didn't have alternatives back then, it was either an endless grind or nothing. Now that they have options the masses are flocking around the most sensible games.
It's no wonder that there aren't good MMOs anymore. Hell, the last 5~7 years there have barely been any MMOs at all.
Archeage 2 most likely because it will have e-girls and Korean MMOs have the best gameplay
AoC combat looks ass. idk shit about Riot's MMO but if it's sexy then it might actually be good
>Pyramid scheme fruit seller scam
>Is bleeding developers non stop
>asiatic game that pinky promises it wont be p2w this time like all the other ones before it
I would say the Riot MMO but i doubt it will ever release.
>people are unironically hyped for a tencent mmo
But why?
Yordle butts
hopefully the erp will be good
Desperate hope for a game that's actually a time machine to take them back to the early 2000s.
You already have good mmos on the market. Wow, Lost Ark and Black Desert are pretty decent.
Ashes of creation will die fast. LoL mmo will be woke as hell. I bet half of npcs will be black and not even one cleavage or butt will be allowed. Archage 2 will not have a long lifespan.
>Lost Ark and Black Desert
Lmao
These are the worst fricking excuses for an MMO. The asiaticgrind in these games is unreal. The horrid player retention. gear means literally everything and obliterates any challenge in LA's pve, or BDO's pvp. Fricking shit games that have done innumerable levels of damage to the genre and the goodwill the public had for it.
Wow is troony shit, Lost ark is grindy shit, black desert is dead shit.
In a globalized world full of corporate greed on unfathomable scales, there can be no good MMOs. Japs have some half-decent communities simply due to insularity.
None of those is even a candidate.
Those are the only candidates unless you're thinking about Blue Protocol, Pax Dei and Throne and Liberty which all look pretty shitty.
>Blue Protocol, Pax Dei
Not mmos.
>Throne and Liberty
Reskinned mobile game (lineage 2m) sold to desperate morons. It even has fricking autocombat.
>not mmos.
schizo moment
Pax Dei is a survival game and Blue Protocal is co-op arpg/mmo-lite like PSO2, Warframe, Destiny, Vindictus and the like.
Pax Dei markets itself as a social sandbox MMO and Blue Protocol is instanced but each instance can hold up to 200 players so it's definitely an MMO.
>Pax Dei markets itself as a social sandbox MMO
It doesn't matter what it markets itself as. It's objectively not an mmo based on what they have shown and said about the game.
>Blue Protocol is instanced but each instance can hold up to 200 players so it's definitely an MMO.
Even BR games have 100-200 player maps, but that's beside the point. What content can those 200 people do together? Can they fight each other? Can they raid? Can the game even handle 150+ people doing something at the same time in one place besides chatting and spamming emotes in town?
Modern mmo players hate mmos, and especially open world pvp mmos.
None of those. Wait until I get rich from crypto and deliver the best mmo and best game ever made.
Ni No Kuni Cross Worlds
Guild Wars 1 back when it was released.
Mabinogi has :
>Classless system that encourages you to play everything or anything you want really
>weapons like bows, swords, staves, magic knuckles, giant 2h weapons, chain blades, magic pistols, shurikens, instruments, alchemy tools, and more
>nearly everything you do in the game makes your character stronger
>very diverse builds with the ability to customize how you skills work through reforges, want a bigger AoE sure, want more projectiles, sure, etc
>20 years worth of cosmetics. hairstyles, eyes, mouths, face shapes, hats, outfits, accessories, shoes, capes, wings, glasses, etc
>three races humans giants and elves which all play differently
>aging system, your character can get taller, gain weight if they eat a lot, lose weight if they run a lot
>rebirth system that has a great loop. Level up to gain stats, use ap gained to increase the power of your skills, rebirth to reset your stats except those gained through skills, ie ranking up the smash skill could perma increase your strength by 1
>Mining, fishing, logging, carpentry, tailoring, smithing, alchemy that lets you dupe shit n stuff, pet taming, farming, potion making
>glyph system that lets you buff your allies with a funny picture you make
>make music using the MML language play it for your friends
>ability to write and share books in game
>active player shops
>community that actively dislikes voicechat
>community willing to group up for content
>storyline that isn't forced that focuses on celtic lore
>fantastic music, some of the best https://youtu.be/3rqgul_fEDc
seriously give it a shot. They revamped the tutorial last year so catching up is really easy. There's a guild on /vm/ that is active and plays every day, very social.
how's Mabinogi if I don't want to spend a single dollar, though?
Looks cute but since it's old bloated as hell too
Online gaming in general is dead because the culture of humanity has changed to become very gay and evil. No one likes playing with anyone anymore. troonys, gays, liberals, israelites, Black folk. These people have ruined MMOs forever, but they have also ruined society forever. Cant wait for the nukes to kill them all off so we can start again.
I want an MMO that cares more about being a virtual fantasy world than being a carefully balanced game.
Like how in Morrowind you can create levitation spells or boost your athletics and leap buildings with a single bound. Morrowind should have gone even farther with those kinds of systems, but with less spellcaster supremacy. Maybe make it logarithmic so you start off a pleb but as your stats increase you become a superhero.
My current money is on either Blizzard's upcoming survival MMO that's meant to be like Rust + Valheim, or Zenimax Online Studios' upcoming MMO.
Both are from reputable companies that actually know how to make MMOs, and both have been in development for +5 years at this point.
>Both are from reputable companies that actually know how to make MMOs
>Nu-WoW and ESO
lol
MMOs can't be good. Their very nature is repetitive low quality busy work to lock away necessary items behind timers and grinding to keep the paypigs subbed for as long as possible.
Welcome our 500.000th member, there's not even a million of us willing to play a good mmo.