SotFS generally has a lot more enemies and invaders, it also changed several item locations to make them harder to obtain.
Since you played SotFS first, the original would just be a difficulty-nerfed version of the game to you.
no your wrong Black person, everything is in the base game dlc and everything the only things sots changed was adding 5 enemies to every area and statues to block your path and make durability worse sotfs ruined the whole game and everything they added with it has been in every from software game since
I just replayed both versions back to back to plat both games, and I can safely say the sotfs version is definitely superior, this is coming from a homosexual who preordered ds2 and played it since day one.
It has more content, and the new npc invaders were just fun to battle IMO
How is the original better than sotfs? I've only played sotfs but it's my favourite souls game out of the 3
I never understood this arguement either >more enemies bad
Git gud. The only place it feels obnoxious is the smelter demon area but you can just run through it and not fight smelter if you hate it that much >inb4 muh snow field muh iron cave muh multiplayer sections that i will go through solo because summoning gay
>The only place it feels obnoxious
if you haven't just gotten used to obnoxious enemy placement then you have barely played the series or have a handicap. After demons and dark 1 I just expected there to be bullshit in the rest of the series. I'd walk into an area and think, man this is a really fricked up spot for an ambush. luckily, even in 2 you can still rollspam out of shit. you can't roll spam while fighting as well but you can at least leave danger and fight in a better position.
No, it's just a few complaints were overblown due to Gankerirgins taking some shitty review for granted made by some homosexual e-celeb. Most of the things that were cited in the review were subjective in the first place. Over time, it became a meme to hate it. It's not even a bad game, not even the worst Souls game. There are so many good things it has done and feels a lot more unique compared to other sequels.
People take for granted what Dark Souls 2 experimented with. Like findable Estus Flasks and proper dual wield. It's actually a shame that more of those ideas didn't make it into Dark Souls 3 onwards aka Dragon Eye and central hub design like Majula.
fromcucks freaked out over the feedback over das2, even though most of the negatives were as a result of marketing (not all, calm down spergs), so for some fricking reason none of it made to the sequel and only with elden ring theyre like "ye maybe this was a good idea after all"
No, it's just a few complaints were overblown due to Gankerirgins taking some shitty review for granted made by some homosexual e-celeb. Most of the things that were cited in the review were subjective in the first place. Over time, it became a meme to hate it. It's not even a bad game, not even the worst Souls game. There are so many good things it has done and feels a lot more unique compared to other sequels.
>dude dude dude DaS2 had uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bone shards and estus shards and and it also had a main menu too!
Okay? >DS3 and ER had those too!!!
Your point? >… >… >that means that DaS2 is retroactively good…?
No. >oh 🙁
>that means that DaS2 is retroactively good…?
that's where you're wrong. it's not retroactively good. it WAS always good. DS2 is validated by ER - since its way more like DS2 then DS3.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is actually incorrect. Elden Ring is more like a parody of the Souls format. It borrows a lot from every Souls game but without really standing on it's feet. That is why it has so many swamps and other cliches. That is why it's hard to take it seriously if you have been a fan since DeS/DaS.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it took so much from DS2!!!!!
Really? What? >the golden seed/bone shard system!
That was in DS3 through. >but-
So, it took from both games equally. Go on. >uhhh…. Uhhh…. It has the stone sword keys! Those are kind of vaguely almost maybe sort of like Pharos lock stones…
Okay. So, what is the combat like? >h-huh? Why would you want to compare that?
What is it like. >it’s… >uh… >it’s… just DS3 with a jump button and a crouch button…
Right. What about the move sets? >D-DS3….
Weapon arts? >….ds3…
Frame data? >….
General character movement? >………………………….
Magic system? >………………………………………….
Enemies? >…………………………………………………………..
Thought so. I think we can stop. ER is literally just DS3 open world with a jump button and some standing/idle poise (and that’s a good thing!)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Who are you quoting?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
(You)
>it took so much from DS2!!!!!
Really? What? >the golden seed/bone shard system!
That was in DS3 through. >but-
So, it took from both games equally. Go on. >uhhh…. Uhhh…. It has the stone sword keys! Those are kind of vaguely almost maybe sort of like Pharos lock stones…
Okay. So, what is the combat like? >h-huh? Why would you want to compare that?
What is it like. >it’s… >uh… >it’s… just DS3 with a jump button and a crouch button…
Right. What about the move sets? >D-DS3….
Weapon arts? >….ds3…
Frame data? >….
General character movement? >………………………….
Magic system? >………………………………………….
Enemies? >…………………………………………………………..
Thought so. I think we can stop. ER is literally just DS3 open world with a jump button and some standing/idle poise (and that’s a good thing!)
>Why is this one bad again?
Because the pre-release marketing was a complete lie and the released game did not match anyone's expectations. People have held on to that grudge for 10 years.
>Why is this one bad again?
People who shit on it never actually played DS2 and are influenced by some youtube shitter/streamer/mentally ill discord trannies.
The same as DS3. Half of announced/anticipated features were never in the game, no one holds "grudge" against it. DS2's hatred is completely manufactured by very small and vocal group of morons.
>People who shit on it never actually played DS2 and are influenced by some youtube shitter/streamer/mentally ill discord trannies.
you know if i said the exact same thing back to you >people who defend it have never actually played DS2 and are influenced by some youtube shitter mentally ill discord troony
it would actually be more true
>it would actually be more true
except it doesnt really make sense for someone to defend a game theyve never played, but the inverse happens all the time
why not? if people are so influenced about what some homosexual on twitch or youtube says that they hate a game they never played, why can't the inverse be true? if they see this youtuber as some parasocial relationship why wouldn't they be mad when people make fun of his favorite game?
if i hadn't played DS2 and hated it, but only got my opinion from homosexuals like MauLer, i wouldn't make the effort to post about this game, i would probably just laugh at the thread and ignore it
listen dude, just ignore the games involved here, if you honest to god think people are more likely to a defend a game theyve never played than to shit on a game theyve never played then there is nothing more to be said and this all just comes off as projection
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i think they are equally as likely
i just meant to imply that the mentally ill trannies are the people that defend ds2 on youtube >this all just comes off as projection
right back at you btw if you think the only reason people shit on ds2 is because they haven't played it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i didnt say it in the previous post but since you keep doing it, could you be more terminally online jesus christ. all im talking about here is the disparity between someone defending a game theyve never played before vs someone shitting on a game theyve never played before. just inane shit anyone who isnt emotionally attached can instantly tell
pic related for the last part btw
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you are terminally online
… >IF YOU SHIT ON MY GAME YOU MUST HAVE GOTTEN IT FROM AN ECELEB YOU MUST HAVE THERES NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE FORMED THAT OPINION ON YOUR OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
NTA but wouldn’t this view be the POV of someone who is terminally online? Their inability to comprehend that people play a game and then think it is bad? Instead declaring that the only way someone must not like it is if they heard someone else criticize it online?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
what are you talking about dude, read the conversation homie
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
now that you mention it, it is pretty common for certain types of people like that to think that way
that there is only one possible option why people think something
like trannies saying that the only possible reason to hate trannies is that you secretly want to frick them
>no one holds "grudge" against it
Because DS2 taught them an important lesson about expectations and marketing, but they took it too far in the other direction and are needlessly lenient towards DS3.
Because they were presumably using new management staff for the game (hence the B team meme), they ended up completely blowing out their scope, it's telling that after trying to make a game with entirely new mocapped animations, every game since then has mostly just used old animations and rigs from their previous games or spent multiple games developing them.
The game is shuffled together from unfinished and placeholder assets that were downgraded heavily, with unpolished and incomplete animations for experimental gameplay.
It's not completely terrible, I came off it thinking that it just kind of averaged out the quality of DaS1 even if that average is mostly dragged down by Izalith.
People shit on DaS3 all the time, it's in competition with DaS2 for being the worst souls game.
DaS2 gets shit for being a barely salvaged passion project, and DaS3 gets shit for being the lamest shuffled together stretch of cornercutting in the series.
Miyazaki also did not even want to make DaS3. Bamco forced him to do it. Miyazaki generally doesn’t do sequels unless he has to. The only ones he has worked on are AC4 and DaS3 IIRC and AC4 was early in his career.
hello schizo
you do realize that only you keep dilating about >muh bamco forced x
because it's nonsense and only 1 deranged schizo (you) believes this shit
>my first post in this thread >get called a schizo
Okay whatever. I’m not arguing with someone that clearly has a mental illness.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the one with the ripped open stinkditch (you) is mentally ill
nice cope, you samegayging schizo
Are troons still trying to trick people into playing dark souls 2?
the schizo is still at it yes
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
im getting a distinct feeling you might not be too mentally stable
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He’s a fricking nut case. He calls me a schizo for pointing out that Miyazaki has said in interviews that he doesn’t like making sequels and didn’t want to make Dark Souls 3. Somehow he takes this as endorsement of Dark Souls 2, which I don’t even like, but to this tweaked out moron anyone that’s not shitting actively shitting on DaS 2 must like it and is therefore an enemy and part of some weird discord conspiracy. Nobody can ever have any discussion about these games because these mentally ill morons sperg out.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What is a miyazaki?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The director of Demon’s Souls, Dark Souls 1, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What does that have to do with a ds2 grooming thread?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The original post I was responding to was talking about Dark Souls 3. It’s also weird to assume that some secret cabal of trannies is trying to groom people with Dark Souls 2 threads. Unless you have hard evidence of this you’re just proving that you’re obsessing about trannies and projecting that out onto the board.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ds2 grooming
wait lemme get this straight, you personally hate das2 so much that you think people who have something (anything?) positive to say about it are trannies because, of course everyone who disagrees with you is a troony?
please say sike, this kind of mental moronation is too draining
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Being baited into playing this dogshit is like getting raped so he’s right
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>wait lemme get this straight, you personally hate das2 so much that you
Nope
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
then what? youre indifferent towards it but everyone not wanting to holocaust the developers is still a troony?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then nothing sister.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
then what's your spergout about? just temporary psychosis?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What are you talking about?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i think you know what im talking about, i promise i wont groom you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>i promise i wont groom you
Weird thing to say in a Ganker thread tbh.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
well you started it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Whomst?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He’s a fricking nut case. He calls me a schizo for pointing out that Miyazaki has said in interviews that he doesn’t like making sequels and didn’t want to make Dark Souls 3. Somehow he takes this as endorsement of Dark Souls 2, which I don’t even like, but to this tweaked out moron anyone that’s not shitting actively shitting on DaS 2 must like it and is therefore an enemy and part of some weird discord conspiracy. Nobody can ever have any discussion about these games because these mentally ill morons sperg out.
>Miyazaki has said in interviews that he doesn’t like making sequels and didn’t want to make Dark Souls 3.
nice ripped dick looney troon samegay and schizo headcanon being passed as interviews KEK
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The only schizo here is you. You’re unhinged and obsessed with trannies.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>looney troon confirms xe is doing the 4G+PC posting at the same time samegay combo
holy shit EXPOSED
LMAO
>Why is this one bad again?
People who shit on it never actually played DS2 and are influenced by some youtube shitter/streamer/mentally ill discord trannies.
The same as DS3. Half of announced/anticipated features were never in the game, no one holds "grudge" against it. DS2's hatred is completely manufactured by very small and vocal group of morons.
Classic example >3 years afterwards
Dark souls 2 was in the literal peak of demo and bullshot lying about graphics. It baited absolutely nobody over the age of 10
that downgrade in lightning was pretty egregious not gonna lie, its actually pretty high up there for pre-release bullshit for me alongside bioshock infinite, but unlike bioshit i still loved the game
There's some cringe stuff about SotfS but anyone making too big of a deal of the difference is being dramatic. I wouldn't recommend anyone to not simply get SotfS if deciding between the two.
It's both of those things. The game takes too much influence from BB combat despite not being BB. And the fact it's linear as frick. Like what is even the appeal of Dark Souls if the combat isn't it's own and it's exploration sucks?
Personally I found a lot of areas in DS 3 to be “THAT part” of the game. I hate the cathedral. I hate the swamp. I hate Irithyl city and dungeon. I hate Lothric castle. I just don’t find the areas and enemies in them fun or interesting. Especially Irithyl.
I also don't like how fast the games have gotten, but it really is mostly the linearity. I keep trying to replay it but every time I hit around the Cathedral I just lose all interest and stop playing.
But yeah, I've just come to accept that Fromsoft will never go back to making a game like Demon's Souls or King's Field. I still enjoy their games but I've had to get my methodical dungeon crawling fix elsewhere for many years now.
There are several things that annoy me.
I hate how they removed spell charges and went back to FP, how they limited items, I hate how I need to bring ashes to the ''base'' to be able to buy new items, I hate how you can't find spells in chesty and on bodes anymore, or maybe you can but I forgot (all these things affect my challenge runs and new playthroughs), rolling seems so fake bt that's probably because of graphics, the sound your weapon makes when hitting an enemy sounds like a water splash, I fricking hated enemy metamorphosis which seems to be pretty common in DS3, and I really hate the lightshow. Just swing 15 times at me, I don't need bright collors and enemy screaming at me.
Op here (real) I didn't play SotFS (because the original was cheaper) so that might be reason like some pointed out. Also I had no idea about the marketing thing could be a legit reason. But I really found the game beautiful. The environments and all that was way better than Dark Souls Remastered I feel like. The game was actually really pretty.
>all that was way better than Dark Souls Remastered
i am forever glad that i own the old version of ds1
and mad that they took it down for the shitty remaster
fricking fromsoft homosexuals
It had good build variety and the best fashion souls, so it scratched rpg autism itch better than the others.
That’s the only good thing I can say about it
>get sotfs thinking it'll be a heavily remixed version of 2 >statues everywhere >3 enemies swapped places >5 more enemies added to each mob >weapons break near instantly now >refund game since I mercifully got the game right after steam introduced refunds
I don't know what the point of the game was on pc when vanilla still exists.
I don’t recall weapon durability being a major issue with sotfs, earlier it was absolutely busted as it was tied to frame rate, weapons could be broken in a couple swings
>reads "I don't recall" >reads "earlier it was busted" >thinks it doesn't mean what it means >is in awe of the ability for someone to read words
At least you're self aware, credit where it’s due.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon is saying he doesn't recall durability issues in softs, but did recall them in the original...it's two different games, what is wrong with you? Seriously wtf lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he didn't recall them in the game that went an entire year with the framerate durability issue unpatched implying he didn't even play the game he's claiming he's recalling
lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just admit that you sperged out because you either didn't bother reading the whole post or just misread it. Embarrassing display
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>just admit that he talked about the original game that he never aactually mentioned that only had this issue when it was modified to run at a higher framerate than intended rather than the game that you were specifically talking about that had this glitch for an entire year
You're literally moronic.
Another anon here. >I don’t recall weapon durability being a major issue with sotfs >sotfs
He knows that the problem existed in original, but he doesn't remember if it was a problem in SOTFS. Am I missing something here, or is this yet another method of shitposting?
He didn't recall it because he didn't play the game within one year of it being released & I responded the way I did to humorously point out that he literally described the very thing I experienced having bought it 2 months after release. That was the beginning & end of that exchange. Then some other anon had a meltdown that I made light of this silly situation trying & failing to pull a big brained gotcha on me & utterly failing with each attempt.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You know it takes a special kind of special to double-down in your spergery on an anonymous forum where you have no "reputation" or anything to lose. You could just say sorry or more realistically ignore the post/close the tab, but instead we're treated with this unhinged shitfling because you got your ego bruised
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you're ego got bruised by btfoing my moronic projected arguments the original anon you responded to didn't make
That's definitely what happened anon, you have a very lucid reading of what just took place. Sure there's not a lick of evidence for even a single one of your claims from the first reply to this one but in your mind it's real & you're definitely not just coping & seething with this post.
You're very smart.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Keep going, it's amusing to read
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I was being totally sincere with that post anon, I have nothing further to add to it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I was being totally sincere with that post anon, I have nothing further to add to it.
you're both fricking moronic for arguing this long over this stupid shit lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Another anon here. >I don’t recall weapon durability being a major issue with sotfs >sotfs
He knows that the problem existed in original, but he doesn't remember if it was a problem in SOTFS. Am I missing something here, or is this yet another method of shitposting?
I don’t recall weapon durability being a major issue with sotfs, earlier it was absolutely busted as it was tied to frame rate, weapons could be broken in a couple swings
SotfS is when they actually FIXED the 60 fps durability bug
I actually still had DaS2 in my library. It was just even further down than I had expected.
Speaking of PTDE though. Kind of bullshit that I have to buy Remastered. Why is that not free to people who own PTDE?
they offered a big discount instead, then they decided to remove it when they thought a 10 year old game should never be cheap again
even bethesda isn't this greedy
>Why is this one bad again?
soul memory, adaptability, shittiest bosses in the franchise, disjointed areas, obnoxious ganks, way too many environmental hazards, etc.
it's still better than ds3 though, I had more fun with it
I hated this sort of half assed Nexus meets an attempt at DS1 world connectivity, do one or the other don't try and marry the two concepts together.
The area layouts ranged from inoffensive, to plain bad compared to DS1. Even DS3 had areas that looped around and connected to themselves in some way. There was some ok areas visually, but outweighed by the downright unpleasant areas.
I really hated the lack of an 8 way run, the deadzones that it has. The slower, more deliberate pace of combat wasn't fun either.
DS2 was the only souls game with a fair and balanced pvp, everything was viable and the pvp scene wasn't plagued by metagays because soul level filtered them. It's objectively a fun game but it's hated because pvpers scream the loudest.
The reason you see people shitting on DS2 is because of pvpers, the same people who run the same exact minmaxed build in DS3 with mismatched armor and that one miracle that prevents oneshots.
>DS2 pvp >Soul Memory
Ignoring that shit mechanic, it was definitely not balanced when everyone ran some RoBFlynn build, and your hyperarmor came way too late in your attack with UGS and Great weapons. You had builds where Straight Swords and Katanas dealt more damage with two R1s than great weapons.
>weapon matchmaking
Kill an opponent, stay at same matchmaking bracket >soul memory
Kill an opponent and farm an enemy for souls to replenish consumables, get pushed into a SM bracket because of it
You are moronic if you think the former is worse than the latter
People considered it bad because no one here ever actually goes back and replays games. They just talk from memory and the general direction of the board.
I haven’t played since launch and it was really bad at launch. Shrine of Amana was such fricking bullshit when the game came out. I won’t comment on if it got better after patches and the DLC but the original launch version of Dark Souls 2 was fricking garbage.
i agree that spell charges are superior, not for any nostalgic reasons but for gameplay reasons. ds1 (and ds2 until the very end if you refrain from using healing gems) has a limited supply of estus charges and a limited supply of spell slots, you can "sacrifice" spell slots to get more casts out of the spell you really like. its all fine and dandy for the spellcaster, and it also doesnt interfere with the gameplay of someone who doesnt care for magic. but when you divide the estus if healing and mana restoring, suddenly the character that has no/limited use for mana says "frick this" and allocates all his charges to estus, making ds3 and elden ring arguably easier and more survivable than ds2 with unlimited life gems (especially since drinking estus & healing both doesnt lock you in place and is very quick, almost instant, healing)
I just beat Dark Souls II again a few days ago and I get where the hate comes from, there are a solid list of positives (lifegems, power stancing, weapon and armor variety, great cast of NPCs, etc.) but the game is punctuated by so much miserable awful shit
>worst boss runbacks in the history of the Fromsoft library, you will genuinely never find a runback as disgustingly bad as Memory of the Old Iron King or Iron Passage or Dark Chasm of Old in any other game >EVERY optional DLC area is poorly cobbled-together Super Dark Souls Maker slop with piss-poor rewards and shitty bosses >a lot of the bosses in general are forgettable at best and pure slop at worst, with gems like Prowling Magus or Covetous Demon right at the bottom and most of the others hanging around squarely in the "mediocre" tier with the very infrequent Ivory King or Sinh to pop off on >ADP isn't as much of a problem as the haters make it out to be, but there are still a lot of moments and attacks that will frick you unfairly (Pursuer shield bash, Frozen Reindeer headbutt is the most obvious, spear movesets in general, Imperfect ground pound, etc.) and a noticeable amount of shitty hitboxes >4 lord souls and le Cycle crap is incredibly dull and uninteresting shit and takes away from the vastly more engaging Drangleic plot, which generally gets pretty snuffed over the course of the game >main story progression feels stunted, you frick around killing le four lord souls (Old Iron King and Lost Sinner suck dick) and then you go to some rando forest and there's the end of the game
I think it's an interesting game, and there's a lot of individual parts to like about it, but it's not good. I wish that DS2 discussion could be less focused on BTFOing the haters or vice versa, but alas.
I agree with all negatives you pointed out and I still think it's the best Dark Souls game. I'd even go further and say lifegems are an active net-negative to the game and you'll probably have more fun if you ignore their existence entirely.
anyone citing this guy critiquing the launch version of the game because it was heckin' not realistic enough is a certified non-thinking npc in my book
dark souls 2 was known for being too easy when it came out beat the entire game without leveling adapability or life gems literally didn't even know about them.
e-girlng at all the people who never played it because it had the best pvp of the series
>I legit had more fun with this than Dark Souls Remastered. Why is this one bad again?
People who said the DLC were the best parts of the game were not lying. From my first playthrough of this this, the dlc portions are the only thing I remember about the experience
What makes DS2 pvp better than other games? It felt clunky to me, poise was in a worse state than DS3 or ER. Fast weapons were king, and there was this very badly done bit where people slide backwards after getting hit. The only good I can remember is making ripostes a grab instead of an instant attack.
>What makes DS2 pvp better than other games?
Nothing. Sisters have a few catch phrases to signal. >best pvp >tried something new
If you see either of these it's a sister thread.
When I was rat broing, i would transform into a rat statue and I set up the dungeon where I turned off the light to the exit and lowered the bridge into the room the rats come out of the wall to attack you. I would wait for them to cross the bridge to run up behind them and backstab them.
I'm playing it :^)
[...]
I've been replaying dark souls games and it's an absolute blast, and I'm determined to get to NG++ to get all the achievements
It's like 3 or 4 troons it isnt like they are some huge unheard voice. They've been trying to trick anons into playing their grooming game for 10 years with no takers.
Imagine if Mormonism was about grooming people. That's the sisters in a cracked eggshell.
It's like 3 or 4 troons it isnt like they are some huge unheard voice. They've been trying to trick anons into playing their grooming game for 10 years with no takers.
Imagine if Mormonism was about grooming people. That's the sisters in a cracked eggshell.
i think its really funny one or two people are both so opposed to people liking a game they dont like and also so obsessed with trannies that they have facilitated a conspiracy theory in which trannies are mudding their favourite hobby, video games. im like 5% sympathetic to your schizophrenia but the problem is the other 95% which makes you sound like a raving fricking lunatic who belongs in an insane asylum (re-institute those btw, 2nd term regan was a mistake)
we used to be a country that would lock away the criminally insane but now we let them roam the street because they a society's victim? i say frick them, frick Black folk, and god bless every dark souls game that doesn't end in a 3
I had a lot of fun with DS2, it's probably the game I have the highest total playtime ever outside of MMOs (1000+ hours), mostly because I found the pvp and the metagame of it fun. That being said, it failed to really create an immersive, interconnected world like DS1 had, and its story really seemed disjointed and messy, likely due to having a troubled development and a lot of things changing midstream, and the game overall just being unfinished compared to the original intention.
I like it for what it is, but it does feel like a failure compared to the other fromsoft games.
Most of Ganker is newbies who only played the shitty unbalanced SotFS version
How is the original better than sotfs? I've only played sotfs but it's my favourite souls game out of the 3
SotFS generally has a lot more enemies and invaders, it also changed several item locations to make them harder to obtain.
Since you played SotFS first, the original would just be a difficulty-nerfed version of the game to you.
It's not. There's just 1 anon who constantly obsesses over it and insists that DS2 is actually worse. It's not.
SotfS is a massive upgrade.
Anyone saying Vanilla is better is being disingenuous.
It's also funny they say Scholar is bad cause all it did was make everything a gank, when Vanilla had MORE ganks than SotfS
no your wrong Black person, everything is in the base game dlc and everything the only things sots changed was adding 5 enemies to every area and statues to block your path and make durability worse sotfs ruined the whole game and everything they added with it has been in every from software game since
Vanilla isn't better. It's just a meme spread around for some weird ass reason
I just replayed both versions back to back to plat both games, and I can safely say the sotfs version is definitely superior, this is coming from a homosexual who preordered ds2 and played it since day one.
It has more content, and the new npc invaders were just fun to battle IMO
If you can believe im no-life enough to be the same person, that's what I suspected and I trust a homosexual like you because he is like me
I never understood this arguement either
>more enemies bad
Git gud. The only place it feels obnoxious is the smelter demon area but you can just run through it and not fight smelter if you hate it that much
>inb4 muh snow field muh iron cave muh multiplayer sections that i will go through solo because summoning gay
>The only place it feels obnoxious
if you haven't just gotten used to obnoxious enemy placement then you have barely played the series or have a handicap. After demons and dark 1 I just expected there to be bullshit in the rest of the series. I'd walk into an area and think, man this is a really fricked up spot for an ambush. luckily, even in 2 you can still rollspam out of shit. you can't roll spam while fighting as well but you can at least leave danger and fight in a better position.
>Why is this one bad again?
Soul memory is a sin and an affront to game design.
Scholars is way better than the original version.
Frick you, 30k (lowest possible) SM runs are fun.
I never even played the DLC edition because the base game was so shitty.
No, it's just a few complaints were overblown due to Gankerirgins taking some shitty review for granted made by some homosexual e-celeb. Most of the things that were cited in the review were subjective in the first place. Over time, it became a meme to hate it. It's not even a bad game, not even the worst Souls game. There are so many good things it has done and feels a lot more unique compared to other sequels.
Black person do you want me to start posting webms? Do I STILL have to do this after all these years?
People take for granted what Dark Souls 2 experimented with. Like findable Estus Flasks and proper dual wield. It's actually a shame that more of those ideas didn't make it into Dark Souls 3 onwards aka Dragon Eye and central hub design like Majula.
fromcucks freaked out over the feedback over das2, even though most of the negatives were as a result of marketing (not all, calm down spergs), so for some fricking reason none of it made to the sequel and only with elden ring theyre like "ye maybe this was a good idea after all"
>dude dude dude DaS2 had uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bone shards and estus shards and and it also had a main menu too!
Okay?
>DS3 and ER had those too!!!
Your point?
>…
>…
>that means that DaS2 is retroactively good…?
No.
>oh 🙁
You argue like a 12 year old.
I am a DaS2 fan
fricks wrong with you, make an actual argument or dont post at all
No man I agree with you the fact that a couple of systems from DaS2 got iterated on and used in the later games makes the game good now 😀
reading comprehension giving some issues too, i see
you argue like someone with massive hog
>that means that DaS2 is retroactively good…?
that's where you're wrong. it's not retroactively good. it WAS always good. DS2 is validated by ER - since its way more like DS2 then DS3.
This is actually incorrect. Elden Ring is more like a parody of the Souls format. It borrows a lot from every Souls game but without really standing on it's feet. That is why it has so many swamps and other cliches. That is why it's hard to take it seriously if you have been a fan since DeS/DaS.
>it took so much from DS2!!!!!
Really? What?
>the golden seed/bone shard system!
That was in DS3 through.
>but-
So, it took from both games equally. Go on.
>uhhh…. Uhhh…. It has the stone sword keys! Those are kind of vaguely almost maybe sort of like Pharos lock stones…
Okay. So, what is the combat like?
>h-huh? Why would you want to compare that?
What is it like.
>it’s…
>uh…
>it’s… just DS3 with a jump button and a crouch button…
Right. What about the move sets?
>D-DS3….
Weapon arts?
>….ds3…
Frame data?
>….
General character movement?
>………………………….
Magic system?
>………………………………………….
Enemies?
>…………………………………………………………..
Thought so. I think we can stop. ER is literally just DS3 open world with a jump button and some standing/idle poise (and that’s a good thing!)
Who are you quoting?
(You)
Absolutely btfo all DaS2gays, good work
Dark Souls II is better than Dark Souls Remastered legitimately. III is no good, hopefully IIII is better.
OP here, i forgot to mention i am trans btw
>Why is this one bad again?
Because the pre-release marketing was a complete lie and the released game did not match anyone's expectations. People have held on to that grudge for 10 years.
>Why is this one bad again?
People who shit on it never actually played DS2 and are influenced by some youtube shitter/streamer/mentally ill discord trannies.
The same as DS3. Half of announced/anticipated features were never in the game, no one holds "grudge" against it. DS2's hatred is completely manufactured by very small and vocal group of morons.
>People who shit on it never actually played DS2 and are influenced by some youtube shitter/streamer/mentally ill discord trannies.
you know if i said the exact same thing back to you
>people who defend it have never actually played DS2 and are influenced by some youtube shitter mentally ill discord troony
it would actually be more true
>it would actually be more true
except it doesnt really make sense for someone to defend a game theyve never played, but the inverse happens all the time
why not? if people are so influenced about what some homosexual on twitch or youtube says that they hate a game they never played, why can't the inverse be true? if they see this youtuber as some parasocial relationship why wouldn't they be mad when people make fun of his favorite game?
if i hadn't played DS2 and hated it, but only got my opinion from homosexuals like MauLer, i wouldn't make the effort to post about this game, i would probably just laugh at the thread and ignore it
listen dude, just ignore the games involved here, if you honest to god think people are more likely to a defend a game theyve never played than to shit on a game theyve never played then there is nothing more to be said and this all just comes off as projection
i think they are equally as likely
i just meant to imply that the mentally ill trannies are the people that defend ds2 on youtube
>this all just comes off as projection
right back at you btw if you think the only reason people shit on ds2 is because they haven't played it
i didnt say it in the previous post but since you keep doing it, could you be more terminally online jesus christ. all im talking about here is the disparity between someone defending a game theyve never played before vs someone shitting on a game theyve never played before. just inane shit anyone who isnt emotionally attached can instantly tell
pic related for the last part btw
>you are terminally online
…
>IF YOU SHIT ON MY GAME YOU MUST HAVE GOTTEN IT FROM AN ECELEB YOU MUST HAVE THERES NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE FORMED THAT OPINION ON YOUR OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
NTA but wouldn’t this view be the POV of someone who is terminally online? Their inability to comprehend that people play a game and then think it is bad? Instead declaring that the only way someone must not like it is if they heard someone else criticize it online?
what are you talking about dude, read the conversation homie
now that you mention it, it is pretty common for certain types of people like that to think that way
that there is only one possible option why people think something
like trannies saying that the only possible reason to hate trannies is that you secretly want to frick them
How many times must you be proven wrong?
okay here you go to prove you wrong too, i played the games myself
ds2 sucks
Cope seethe dialate
how am i coping and seething?
you people are the ones constantly angry that fromsoft games get away from the things you love and get more rollsloppy
>no one holds "grudge" against it
Because DS2 taught them an important lesson about expectations and marketing, but they took it too far in the other direction and are needlessly lenient towards DS3.
Because they were presumably using new management staff for the game (hence the B team meme), they ended up completely blowing out their scope, it's telling that after trying to make a game with entirely new mocapped animations, every game since then has mostly just used old animations and rigs from their previous games or spent multiple games developing them.
The game is shuffled together from unfinished and placeholder assets that were downgraded heavily, with unpolished and incomplete animations for experimental gameplay.
It's not completely terrible, I came off it thinking that it just kind of averaged out the quality of DaS1 even if that average is mostly dragged down by Izalith.
People shit on DaS3 all the time, it's in competition with DaS2 for being the worst souls game.
DaS2 gets shit for being a barely salvaged passion project, and DaS3 gets shit for being the lamest shuffled together stretch of cornercutting in the series.
Miyazaki also did not even want to make DaS3. Bamco forced him to do it. Miyazaki generally doesn’t do sequels unless he has to. The only ones he has worked on are AC4 and DaS3 IIRC and AC4 was early in his career.
hello schizo
you do realize that only you keep dilating about
>muh bamco forced x
because it's nonsense and only 1 deranged schizo (you) believes this shit
>my first post in this thread
>get called a schizo
Okay whatever. I’m not arguing with someone that clearly has a mental illness.
the one with the ripped open stinkditch (you) is mentally ill
nice cope, you samegayging schizo
the schizo is still at it yes
im getting a distinct feeling you might not be too mentally stable
He’s a fricking nut case. He calls me a schizo for pointing out that Miyazaki has said in interviews that he doesn’t like making sequels and didn’t want to make Dark Souls 3. Somehow he takes this as endorsement of Dark Souls 2, which I don’t even like, but to this tweaked out moron anyone that’s not shitting actively shitting on DaS 2 must like it and is therefore an enemy and part of some weird discord conspiracy. Nobody can ever have any discussion about these games because these mentally ill morons sperg out.
What is a miyazaki?
The director of Demon’s Souls, Dark Souls 1, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring.
What does that have to do with a ds2 grooming thread?
The original post I was responding to was talking about Dark Souls 3. It’s also weird to assume that some secret cabal of trannies is trying to groom people with Dark Souls 2 threads. Unless you have hard evidence of this you’re just proving that you’re obsessing about trannies and projecting that out onto the board.
>ds2 grooming
wait lemme get this straight, you personally hate das2 so much that you think people who have something (anything?) positive to say about it are trannies because, of course everyone who disagrees with you is a troony?
please say sike, this kind of mental moronation is too draining
Being baited into playing this dogshit is like getting raped so he’s right
>wait lemme get this straight, you personally hate das2 so much that you
Nope
then what? youre indifferent towards it but everyone not wanting to holocaust the developers is still a troony?
Then nothing sister.
then what's your spergout about? just temporary psychosis?
What are you talking about?
i think you know what im talking about, i promise i wont groom you
>i promise i wont groom you
Weird thing to say in a Ganker thread tbh.
well you started it
Whomst?
>Miyazaki has said in interviews that he doesn’t like making sequels and didn’t want to make Dark Souls 3.
nice ripped dick looney troon samegay and schizo headcanon being passed as interviews KEK
The only schizo here is you. You’re unhinged and obsessed with trannies.
>looney troon confirms xe is doing the 4G+PC posting at the same time samegay combo
holy shit EXPOSED
LMAO
whens the last time you saw the sun
care to elaborate
?si=dk9bYsxskUzrgMyM
It’s a YouTube meme
Classic example
>3 years afterwards
Dark souls 2 was in the literal peak of demo and bullshot lying about graphics. It baited absolutely nobody over the age of 10
that downgrade in lightning was pretty egregious not gonna lie, its actually pretty high up there for pre-release bullshit for me alongside bioshock infinite, but unlike bioshit i still loved the game
>lightning
lighting*
There's some cringe stuff about SotfS but anyone making too big of a deal of the difference is being dramatic. I wouldn't recommend anyone to not simply get SotfS if deciding between the two.
all rollslop is dogshit, II is the least bad of all of them
It's a very soulful and interesting game
turns out Ganker is full of moronic homosexuals who knew
We've made this thread 17,324 times and we've become increasingly proficient at it.
>2 > 1 >> 3
or
>1 > 2 >> 3
is also acceptable. do NOT bother responding if you do NOT agree
What's everybody's biggest problem with 3? For me, it's the speed of combat rather than linearity. I miss pre-BB fromslop
It's both of those things. The game takes too much influence from BB combat despite not being BB. And the fact it's linear as frick. Like what is even the appeal of Dark Souls if the combat isn't it's own and it's exploration sucks?
Personally I found a lot of areas in DS 3 to be “THAT part” of the game. I hate the cathedral. I hate the swamp. I hate Irithyl city and dungeon. I hate Lothric castle. I just don’t find the areas and enemies in them fun or interesting. Especially Irithyl.
I also don't like how fast the games have gotten, but it really is mostly the linearity. I keep trying to replay it but every time I hit around the Cathedral I just lose all interest and stop playing.
But yeah, I've just come to accept that Fromsoft will never go back to making a game like Demon's Souls or King's Field. I still enjoy their games but I've had to get my methodical dungeon crawling fix elsewhere for many years now.
There are several things that annoy me.
I hate how they removed spell charges and went back to FP, how they limited items, I hate how I need to bring ashes to the ''base'' to be able to buy new items, I hate how you can't find spells in chesty and on bodes anymore, or maybe you can but I forgot (all these things affect my challenge runs and new playthroughs), rolling seems so fake bt that's probably because of graphics, the sound your weapon makes when hitting an enemy sounds like a water splash, I fricking hated enemy metamorphosis which seems to be pretty common in DS3, and I really hate the lightshow. Just swing 15 times at me, I don't need bright collors and enemy screaming at me.
Late reply but thanks for this post, it reminds me of both how bad das3 is and how blind as a bat I am when focusing on just the surface level details
(of course by bad I mean by fromsoftware standards, it's still a better game than 90% of triple-A out there)
3 > 1 > 2
actual correct answer coming through
>1 >>>>>>>> 3 >>>> 2
I agree with 1 > 2 >> 3. Ds3 is overly linear and I thought the "remember ds1???" stuff was lame overall.
Demon's Souls my beloved > Elden Ring = Sekiro > rest (never played 'em so frick 'em)
Don't (You) me.
as long as >> 3
We can get along, anon. 3 is meh at best. Slave Knight Gael redeems 3 slightly but he's at the very fricking end.
this ds2 shitposting has gotten out of hand when people matter of factly and nironically talk about how 2 is better than 3
The only 3 has going for it is that it has smoother gameplay. Its the same reason why eldenbabs dont try the older souls games...including 3.
fricking casuals in this thread.
Nice.
Have you done any challenge runs and, if you did, what was your fav?
not really, it's mostly pvp.
i think on my playstation i got the no bonfire ring.
good fun to see how large the world really is.
y tho
honestly, the pvp was the best fun i had playing games in 20 years.
quake 3 being a close second.
Because its terrible.
Op here (real) I didn't play SotFS (because the original was cheaper) so that might be reason like some pointed out. Also I had no idea about the marketing thing could be a legit reason. But I really found the game beautiful. The environments and all that was way better than Dark Souls Remastered I feel like. The game was actually really pretty.
>all that was way better than Dark Souls Remastered
i am forever glad that i own the old version of ds1
and mad that they took it down for the shitty remaster
fricking fromsoft homosexuals
why is the remaster shitty
It's based on ds2
what does that mean
Do you spy read english fluently?
why cant you just give a clear answer on why the remaster is shitty, is this one of those "muh soul" things that you cant put into words or what
>why cant you just give a clear answer
I did.
so the latter?
im so tired of low iq troglodytes, possibly brown, shitting up this board with their worthless unga bunga
You'd have to read the replay chain.
severe graphix downgrade
can't grief noobs that just started playing the game unless you do some very specific things, due to matchmaking changes
It had good build variety and the best fashion souls, so it scratched rpg autism itch better than the others.
That’s the only good thing I can say about it
>get sotfs thinking it'll be a heavily remixed version of 2
>statues everywhere
>3 enemies swapped places
>5 more enemies added to each mob
>weapons break near instantly now
>refund game since I mercifully got the game right after steam introduced refunds
I don't know what the point of the game was on pc when vanilla still exists.
I don’t recall weapon durability being a major issue with sotfs, earlier it was absolutely busted as it was tied to frame rate, weapons could be broken in a couple swings
>I don't recall
>*proceeds to recall within the very same sentence*
Not him but you should've probably finished reading that sentence you absolute buffoon
>just because he accurately described the thing he didn't recall doesn't mean he recalled it
Don't ever (you) me again moron.
Genuinely at awe of your IQ
>reads "I don't recall"
>reads "earlier it was busted"
>thinks it doesn't mean what it means
>is in awe of the ability for someone to read words
At least you're self aware, credit where it’s due.
Anon is saying he doesn't recall durability issues in softs, but did recall them in the original...it's two different games, what is wrong with you? Seriously wtf lmao
>he didn't recall them in the game that went an entire year with the framerate durability issue unpatched implying he didn't even play the game he's claiming he's recalling
lol
Just admit that you sperged out because you either didn't bother reading the whole post or just misread it. Embarrassing display
>just admit that he talked about the original game that he never aactually mentioned that only had this issue when it was modified to run at a higher framerate than intended rather than the game that you were specifically talking about that had this glitch for an entire year
You're literally moronic.
He didn't recall it because he didn't play the game within one year of it being released & I responded the way I did to humorously point out that he literally described the very thing I experienced having bought it 2 months after release. That was the beginning & end of that exchange. Then some other anon had a meltdown that I made light of this silly situation trying & failing to pull a big brained gotcha on me & utterly failing with each attempt.
You know it takes a special kind of special to double-down in your spergery on an anonymous forum where you have no "reputation" or anything to lose. You could just say sorry or more realistically ignore the post/close the tab, but instead we're treated with this unhinged shitfling because you got your ego bruised
>you're ego got bruised by btfoing my moronic projected arguments the original anon you responded to didn't make
That's definitely what happened anon, you have a very lucid reading of what just took place. Sure there's not a lick of evidence for even a single one of your claims from the first reply to this one but in your mind it's real & you're definitely not just coping & seething with this post.
You're very smart.
Keep going, it's amusing to read
I was being totally sincere with that post anon, I have nothing further to add to it.
you're both fricking moronic for arguing this long over this stupid shit lmao
Another anon here.
>I don’t recall weapon durability being a major issue with sotfs
>sotfs
He knows that the problem existed in original, but he doesn't remember if it was a problem in SOTFS. Am I missing something here, or is this yet another method of shitposting?
SotfS is when they actually FIXED the 60 fps durability bug
is magic good/fun in ds2?
Nothing Is good or fun in DaS2
>checking my steam library
>I only find sotfs
Was my non-sotfs copy deleted from my library?
I still have PTDE in my library so I doubt it.
I actually still had DaS2 in my library. It was just even further down than I had expected.
Speaking of PTDE though. Kind of bullshit that I have to buy Remastered. Why is that not free to people who own PTDE?
Because Bamco is an butthole publisher.
they offered a big discount instead, then they decided to remove it when they thought a 10 year old game should never be cheap again
even bethesda isn't this greedy
>big discount
It wasn't that big.
by itself it wasn't but It stacked with sales
>Why is this one bad again?
soul memory, adaptability, shittiest bosses in the franchise, disjointed areas, obnoxious ganks, way too many environmental hazards, etc.
it's still better than ds3 though, I had more fun with it
I’m sorry about your brain damage
So you actually consider this the best Dark Souls game?
No since I only played Dark Souls Remastered and Dark Souls 2 for now.
Kek. I guarantee you are going to hate 3 so you can just admit right now you think 2 is the best
I hated this sort of half assed Nexus meets an attempt at DS1 world connectivity, do one or the other don't try and marry the two concepts together.
The area layouts ranged from inoffensive, to plain bad compared to DS1. Even DS3 had areas that looped around and connected to themselves in some way. There was some ok areas visually, but outweighed by the downright unpleasant areas.
I really hated the lack of an 8 way run, the deadzones that it has. The slower, more deliberate pace of combat wasn't fun either.
DS2 was the only souls game with a fair and balanced pvp, everything was viable and the pvp scene wasn't plagued by metagays because soul level filtered them. It's objectively a fun game but it's hated because pvpers scream the loudest.
The reason you see people shitting on DS2 is because of pvpers, the same people who run the same exact minmaxed build in DS3 with mismatched armor and that one miracle that prevents oneshots.
>DS2 pvp
>Soul Memory
Ignoring that shit mechanic, it was definitely not balanced when everyone ran some RoBFlynn build, and your hyperarmor came way too late in your attack with UGS and Great weapons. You had builds where Straight Swords and Katanas dealt more damage with two R1s than great weapons.
congrats you have le autism
Are troons still trying to trick people into playing dark souls 2?
Yep. Same sistercord as usual.
>shit on das2 for having soul memory
>turn around and praise das3 for implementing weapon matchmaking, which is infinitely worse
How does it feel being moronic?
>weapon matchmaking
Kill an opponent, stay at same matchmaking bracket
>soul memory
Kill an opponent and farm an enemy for souls to replenish consumables, get pushed into a SM bracket because of it
You are moronic if you think the former is worse than the latter
People considered it bad because no one here ever actually goes back and replays games. They just talk from memory and the general direction of the board.
I haven’t played since launch and it was really bad at launch. Shrine of Amana was such fricking bullshit when the game came out. I won’t comment on if it got better after patches and the DLC but the original launch version of Dark Souls 2 was fricking garbage.
>ds2
>shrine of amana was so bad on release that they had to nerf it
>sotfs
>revert the nerf
what did they mean by this
They reverted it? I haven’t played SOTFS so I won’t comment on it. I remember getting sniped across the level by those fricking mages and raging.
all Souls games had shit parts, 2 had the most out of them all, but I still had fun playing it
I won't lie though, 2 feels awkward as frick after playing 3 and Elden Ring
No level design
Idiotic bosses with no movesets
No memorable music
Handles like you wearing a horse wiener buttplug
Soulslop threads are always an entertaining read, just like the monster hunter threads
>had to samegay because nobody agrees
jej
I've yet to see someone claim ER is like DS2, and not turn out they were from Syria.
Weird af pull, but it's ture.
Spell Charges > FP
>number
>:O
>number with a graphical effect
>:~~*(
Yes, number > blue bar
>get 10 spell plo spaces spell ports
>use them to get 200 soul arrows or 100 evil orbs or whatever
>get 100 fp
>cast soul arrow 10 times instead of 9
i agree that spell charges are superior, not for any nostalgic reasons but for gameplay reasons. ds1 (and ds2 until the very end if you refrain from using healing gems) has a limited supply of estus charges and a limited supply of spell slots, you can "sacrifice" spell slots to get more casts out of the spell you really like. its all fine and dandy for the spellcaster, and it also doesnt interfere with the gameplay of someone who doesnt care for magic. but when you divide the estus if healing and mana restoring, suddenly the character that has no/limited use for mana says "frick this" and allocates all his charges to estus, making ds3 and elden ring arguably easier and more survivable than ds2 with unlimited life gems (especially since drinking estus & healing both doesnt lock you in place and is very quick, almost instant, healing)
Dragonir threads are just sad now
Hes talking about the mad russian
>He
You're not fooling anyone, schizo
I just beat Dark Souls II again a few days ago and I get where the hate comes from, there are a solid list of positives (lifegems, power stancing, weapon and armor variety, great cast of NPCs, etc.) but the game is punctuated by so much miserable awful shit
>worst boss runbacks in the history of the Fromsoft library, you will genuinely never find a runback as disgustingly bad as Memory of the Old Iron King or Iron Passage or Dark Chasm of Old in any other game
>EVERY optional DLC area is poorly cobbled-together Super Dark Souls Maker slop with piss-poor rewards and shitty bosses
>a lot of the bosses in general are forgettable at best and pure slop at worst, with gems like Prowling Magus or Covetous Demon right at the bottom and most of the others hanging around squarely in the "mediocre" tier with the very infrequent Ivory King or Sinh to pop off on
>ADP isn't as much of a problem as the haters make it out to be, but there are still a lot of moments and attacks that will frick you unfairly (Pursuer shield bash, Frozen Reindeer headbutt is the most obvious, spear movesets in general, Imperfect ground pound, etc.) and a noticeable amount of shitty hitboxes
>4 lord souls and le Cycle crap is incredibly dull and uninteresting shit and takes away from the vastly more engaging Drangleic plot, which generally gets pretty snuffed over the course of the game
>main story progression feels stunted, you frick around killing le four lord souls (Old Iron King and Lost Sinner suck dick) and then you go to some rando forest and there's the end of the game
I think it's an interesting game, and there's a lot of individual parts to like about it, but it's not good. I wish that DS2 discussion could be less focused on BTFOing the haters or vice versa, but alas.
>just beat Dark Souls II again a few days ago and
This is how you know it's a trooncord shitposting thread. No one plays ds2.
>newbie subhuman that is barely older than 18
Discord getting mad again!
I agree with all negatives you pointed out and I still think it's the best Dark Souls game. I'd even go further and say lifegems are an active net-negative to the game and you'll probably have more fun if you ignore their existence entirely.
>slits dark souls 2's throat
Such an overrated gay with awful takes.
anyone citing this guy critiquing the launch version of the game because it was heckin' not realistic enough is a certified non-thinking npc in my book
The epitome of a midwit
>regurgitating youtuber opinions
lel
He is right though.
Half of the critique is invalid to SOTFS and the other half is autism unrelated to actual gameplay. So no he's not really right
Cope discordtroon.
>Guardian Ape and Owl (Father) are harder
Uh, no.
dark souls 2 was known for being too easy when it came out beat the entire game without leveling adapability or life gems literally didn't even know about them.
e-girlng at all the people who never played it because it had the best pvp of the series
>I legit had more fun with this than Dark Souls Remastered. Why is this one bad again?
People who said the DLC were the best parts of the game were not lying. From my first playthrough of this this, the dlc portions are the only thing I remember about the experience
>playing any version of das2
Shiggydiggy
What makes DS2 pvp better than other games? It felt clunky to me, poise was in a worse state than DS3 or ER. Fast weapons were king, and there was this very badly done bit where people slide backwards after getting hit. The only good I can remember is making ripostes a grab instead of an instant attack.
>What makes DS2 pvp better than other games?
Nothing. Sisters have a few catch phrases to signal.
>best pvp
>tried something new
If you see either of these it's a sister thread.
Covenants
When I was rat broing, i would transform into a rat statue and I set up the dungeon where I turned off the light to the exit and lowered the bridge into the room the rats come out of the wall to attack you. I would wait for them to cross the bridge to run up behind them and backstab them.
>Sisters
Certified schizo post
This just means he is upsetting you, not that he is wrong or schizo
>he
You're still not fooling anyone, schizo
You appear to be unstable sister
It's still ds2 so it is to be avoided.
>das2 is shit no matter what
>nooooo youre a troony if you disagree with me!
i wonder if self-awareness was ever a thing that popped into your radar
>it says in das2 grooming thread #764187532
thanks for proving my point son
You not being self aware is your own problem sis
>I just killed the queen yesterday
lol no one plays dark souls 2
I'm playing it :^)
I've been replaying dark souls games and it's an absolute blast, and I'm determined to get to NG++ to get all the achievements
Last I played was in December with a hexxing Roaring Halberd/Blacksteel Katana build.
based
I might replay the game again soon. I have good memories of it despite only playing it for the first time a few years ago.
Why did you stop saying dragonirian all the time, schizo? Even when you talk about him (obsessed) you keep calling him dragonir or the dragon guy
Look how noided it's getting lol
lol
He's cracking under the pressure. Talk about unstable.
this schizobabble is becoming so nonsensical that a quick "touch grass" invocation is required
Lololololol looks like the meltdown has started
Still having conversations with yourself, schizo? How boring and predictable.
I’ve realized that DS2troons are like FO3troons; completely delusional and belligerent
It's like 3 or 4 troons it isnt like they are some huge unheard voice. They've been trying to trick anons into playing their grooming game for 10 years with no takers.
Imagine if Mormonism was about grooming people. That's the sisters in a cracked eggshell.
i think its really funny one or two people are both so opposed to people liking a game they dont like and also so obsessed with trannies that they have facilitated a conspiracy theory in which trannies are mudding their favourite hobby, video games. im like 5% sympathetic to your schizophrenia but the problem is the other 95% which makes you sound like a raving fricking lunatic who belongs in an insane asylum (re-institute those btw, 2nd term regan was a mistake)
>I think it’s really funny-
This is never said by someone who isn’t mad 😀
>Seething schizo doesn't even understand the concept of fun
u mad bro?
>seething schizo
Ohohoho… a hehehehehehehe… ahAHAHAHHAHAHA *snicker* sorry, anon! I… I’m hahahahha… I’m NOT THAT ANON! AHEHEHEHEHHEHEHE
I know you are, but what am I?
227pbp
>:D
mad detected :DD
>reinstate state-run mental asylums
I am 100% with you, reagan fricked us all over by closing them down.
we used to be a country that would lock away the criminally insane but now we let them roam the street because they a society's victim? i say frick them, frick Black folk, and god bless every dark souls game that doesn't end in a 3
I kneel
Cheers.
>i think its really funny
Always means seething
People cannot appreciate sovlfvl kino of this caliber
I had a lot of fun with DS2, it's probably the game I have the highest total playtime ever outside of MMOs (1000+ hours), mostly because I found the pvp and the metagame of it fun. That being said, it failed to really create an immersive, interconnected world like DS1 had, and its story really seemed disjointed and messy, likely due to having a troubled development and a lot of things changing midstream, and the game overall just being unfinished compared to the original intention.
I like it for what it is, but it does feel like a failure compared to the other fromsoft games.
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