He's talking about magnesis vs ultrahand. In totk can pick up almost anything. In botw it has to be metal, one of the few things link can physically pick up himself like barrels and small rocks, or you have to knock it around with stasis. This difference is really clear with breaking crates for arrows. In botw you can just toss metal ones in the air and get them for free. But wooden ones either have to be smashed by a metal object, hit with a weapon (using durability), or their contents scattered everywhere with a bomb.
It's pretty lame that stasis was removed probably because it trivializes the one major mechanic they added. Oh you have a battery powered hover bike? I can go further riding this rock.
You've never seen videos of people traveling across the map by launching objects with stasis? You wouldn't need vehicles with batteries if you could just fling for free.
You've never seen videos of people traveling across the map by launching objects with stasis? You wouldn't need vehicles with batteries if you could just fling for free.
We're not talking about wind bombing. Stasis launching doesn't require any skill at all. I'm pretty sure every single person who has ever played the game has done it. It's the most immediately obvious application of it.
>I can go further riding this rock.
Thats not true, the hoverbike has infinite airtime thanks to Recall.
When you compare Recall and Ascend to their counterparts Stasis and Cryonis, I think Recall and Ascend are straight up improvements over those two abilities. Stasis has some interesting applications sure, but Recall has wacky tech in equal measure and then more.
The gliders and balloons do disappear WAY too fricking fast. Infuriatingly so. I wish they wouldn't have done that and just let the battery be the only limit.
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The battery is not the only limit though. There are a dozen different ways to extend your creations life.
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>The battery is not the only limit though.
I know, I wish that it was. I wish that nothing ever disappeared arbitrarily. Gliders vanishing out from under you mid-flight is fricking stupid.
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as someone doing a no teleport playthough they are still OP, you can launch from a sky island, drop a stone bird, and glide across the entire map on like 3 stone birds
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I want to glide across the entire map on ONE stone bird. Honestly, I wouldn't even be mad if they just nerfed the glide distance and made them fall faster sooner so you had to keep fans powered up to get serious distance. Making them disappear is such a shitty, lazy, band-aid-tier cop-out when they could have found ways to balance it without doing that.
12 months ago
Anonymous
it would just be broken to be able to do that at the start of the game, but i would like if you could upgrade them somehow by the end of the game, maybe DLC will add it
I'm interested on no teleport, is there any chasms with water under them?
i havent gone down every entrance yet but i think there was one that i came across, no teleport is a lot of fun though, i mainly use balloons to get out of the depths but i got stuck down there at the start of my playthrough for like 5 hours lol
12 months ago
Anonymous
No teleport sounds really fun, I'll try it on my second run now that I know there's ascend spots in the Depths
12 months ago
Anonymous
it is, makes you enjoy the places you visit more because you know it might be a while before you are back, enjoy your second playthrough!
How do you get out of the depths? When I started out I was trying to avoid teleporting, not as a hard rule, just as something to generally try and do since I found botw more enjoyable that way. And then I went to the depths. I even tried climbing shit to get up near the ceiling to ascend but it didn't work. I know there are some spots that are made specifically for ascending out. Do you just go across the map to one of those every time?
the ascend towers are pretty rare, i got stuck down there with 1 battery early game and it was one of the funnest parts of the game for me because it was such a struggle to escape
i eventually found a yiga fort that had a hot air balloon and had to finagle it near the top of a chasm and just float up, now that i have autobuild i just have a super rocket hot airballoon build that i pull out whenever i need to get out of there
>it would just be broken to be able to do that at the start of the game
That's why you shorten the un-powered glide distance and make them sink faster. That balances it so that you have to have a lot of battery to go really far and once the battery shuts off you start sinking quickly.
yea that might work, only problem is you could still infinitely recall your stonebird ship and get across the map very easily as well, similar to how you can with the hoverbike but better
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>only problem is you could still infinitely recall your stonebird ship and get across the map very easily as well
Yeah but like you pointed out you can already do that in other ways so who cares?
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i think from the devs perspective, most people dont know how to build a hoverbike out of the box, but most people would be able to put a fan and a control stick on a stone bird and boom they can fly to gerudo desert right when they start the game
i just think you should be able to upgrade its degradation rate and eventually have it never disappear
I'm surprised balloons last long enough to get out. That was what I tried first to get out and, in addition to struggling to find anything to put the thing on so I could ride it up, it also burned out so fast that I just gave up and looked for somewhere to ascend.
some of the chasm holes out are higher up than others, so some need you to have the rocket boost to escape. the one i first escaped from was particulary super high up, and i didnt have rockets, so i had to do some crazy recall tricks to get it near the mouth so it wouldn't disappear
once i could slap rockets on them though, and use autobuild, it wasnt an issue
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I'm surprised balloons last long enough to get out. That was what I tried first to get out and, in addition to struggling to find anything to put the thing on so I could ride it up, it also burned out so fast that I just gave up and looked for somewhere to ascend.
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>it would just be broken to be able to do that at the start of the game
That's why you shorten the un-powered glide distance and make them sink faster. That balances it so that you have to have a lot of battery to go really far and once the battery shuts off you start sinking quickly.
12 months ago
Anonymous
I'm interested on no teleport, is there any chasms with water under them?
12 months ago
Anonymous
How do you get out of the depths? When I started out I was trying to avoid teleporting, not as a hard rule, just as something to generally try and do since I found botw more enjoyable that way. And then I went to the depths. I even tried climbing shit to get up near the ceiling to ascend but it didn't work. I know there are some spots that are made specifically for ascending out. Do you just go across the map to one of those every time?
12 months ago
Anonymous
There are towers that you can use ascend on if you're trying to avoid teleporting.
They're giant and go all the way to the ceiling. They also have torches on them and zen rock garden stuff like below light roots.
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>I know there are some spots that are made specifically for ascending out.
I'm aware. But they're super far apart. While botw was more fun to play with teleporting, the depths makes me think totk would just be tedious that way.
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Anonymous
Bro distance in the Depths is trivial with a good vehicle and they literally throw zonai parts at you every 50 feet
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without* teleporting
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The depths are where I've spent the majority of my time in. Takes longer to fill out the map (I still haven't), has lots of stuff to find, and most importantly it's where you farm good materials like zonanite, bombs, muddle bud, puffshrooms, etc.
I'd just build a 4 fan hovercart and go between them, it wouldn't be tedious at all. I'd use it as an opportunity to get all my depths materials.
The gliders and balloons do disappear WAY too fricking fast. Infuriatingly so. I wish they wouldn't have done that and just let the battery be the only limit.
They should honestly patch the wings and balloons to last longer. There is no good reason for them to be so short lived when fans get to do the same thing for 10 times as long.
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The worst part is that you can still make flying machines that go forever like
[...]
Inferior technology
so all they're doing is limiting options for no reason.
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>There is no good reason for them to be so short lived when fans get to do the same thing for 10 times as long.
Wings and balloons do their shit without the use of batteries. The travel durability was done to act as a limiter thanks to that ability of theirs. A balanced thing that Nintendo could have done was to tie travel durability to your battery length.
12 months ago
Anonymous
Easy. If it's using battery it lasts forever. That way bare wings and balloons using campfires still aren't infinite but you can make planes and flame emitter powered balloons that don't disappear in two minutes.
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>Easy. If it's using battery it lasts forever.
Not quite as balanced as what I suggested because you can use this for the zonai hovering platforms and pretty much permananently have high ground over everything. By tying their travel durability to how much battery you've aquired this makes those sorts of structures not ridiculously outclassed by 2 fans and a steering stick.
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I mean lasts forever as in doesn't despawn. Basically if the whole device is using power, so like a wing with fans and a steering stick on it, then the parts don't despawn. But if it's not, like a wing that you're just standing on or a balloon powered by a campfire, then it would act like it does currently (although still extend both of their durations).
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>I mean lasts forever as in doesn't despawn.
I know what you mean.
A non despawning floating platform is busted OP because those things never use battery power to stay afloat.
Shit, just put a zonai head on this with some beam emitters and some fans and you just slowly creep above hyrule lazering everyone, only stopping (still up in the air) to recharge your batteries.
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Anonymous
Do those things depsawn? I thought they were already a means of infinite height and air time if you were patient enough to deal with them. I thought that's why they cost 100 zoanite to conjure via autobuild.
12 months ago
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Yeah, they despawn. Yeah, it's lame.
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Well, considering I never bothered much with them despite thinking they lasted forever, I don't think it would break the game too much if they were permanent. They're so incredibly slow and their steep cost means that if you can afford to autobuild with them you could also afford a boatload of rockets, fans, etc.
12 months ago
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>rendering 90+ percent of the game's enemies moot by way of not having any means to fight you isn't gamebreaking
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Skipping combat is completely trivial anyway.
12 months ago
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It only does that if you're willing to spend real life years traversing the map on a box that moves slower than walking or farm up so much zoanite for autobuilding them that it would have been faster and easier to just play normally.
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Anon, you don't get it. At all. >build device with fans, wheels emitters, cannons, and the heads to orient those emitters and cannons. >steer platform to ground and swap the fans out for wheels to use as a buggy, it's now faster than just floating in air >swap back to fans when you're going to assault monster forces/farm lynel weapons/kill taluses/ etc.
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That still seems like significantly more effort than it's worth. You'd have to get/make a new one every time you entered a shrine or wanted to fast travel. And getting in and out of the depths with it would be a b***h, too.
When everything short of boss monsters already crumbles before the might of the puffshroom korok sword, that doesn't come across as especially game breaking.
>The fans disappear after a while too
This is straight up a lie, I've flown through the depths for upwards of an hour and they don't go away, only rockets, ballons and wings do
This combined with the gerudo outfit suggests to me that there is a gay with some sway at nintendo but that there is also one or more person who disapproves. They still got their gay hat, and in fact it's even more homosexual than the gerudo outfit. But the gerudo outfit itself was removed even when almost every other outfit, including amiibo ones, was retained. And it was downgraded to a side quest that never involves the player wearing it.
Anons it's called a joke outfit, the Gerudo outfit had a bunch of jokes in game surrounding it and the whole thing about the CeCe hat being the quest reward is a joke about CeCe being so conceited she thinks her stupid ugly hat is a good reward for your efforts
I want to like recall, and if stasis were retained along with it, I wouldn't have any issue with it. But I don't like that it's a total replacement. I used stasis so much more than recall. And even in situations where I use both, stasis was more fun.
When an octorok is shooting at you from far enough away that a parried projectile won't reach them before they've gone back underwater, you can use both stasis and recall to still kill them without having to use an arrow and bow durability. With stasis you froze the octorok right as it shot and then quickly parried to hit it while it was still frozen. With recall you just recall the rock back at it. You don't even have to time the recall since it freezes time while you aim it. It's so much less interesting and satisfying.
100% agree. Neither game's moment to moment gameplay is particularly engaging, and BotW just had better atmosphere and required less linear focus, so you could just spend time soaking in the atmosphere/world more. I pretty much never spend time trying to traverse TotK's world when flight options are so easily accessible
This combined with the gerudo outfit suggests to me that there is a gay with some sway at nintendo but that there is also one or more person who disapproves. They still got their gay hat, and in fact it's even more homosexual than the gerudo outfit. But the gerudo outfit itself was removed even when almost every other outfit, including amiibo ones, was retained. And it was downgraded to a side quest that never involves the player wearing it.
Of course it's better. The entire world was designed with the abilities in mind. The new game lets you cheese too many things because the devs didn't realize how busted new abilities would be in the old world.
>No caves >Less memorable side quests >No ascend, Recall, or Fuse >No themed dungeons
I actually love BotW but I prefer TotK a few times over, basically a 8 out of 10 vs a 9 out of 10 for me, I don't think either game is perfect tho, no game is
I've actually forgotten 80% of breath of the wild, even before totk came out.
It was nice exploring but kind of forgettable otherwise, the ganon beast form was cool I guess.
Totk did just about everything better.
I Agree that BotW was more soulful, both gameplay wise (the world is bigger but now feel like a small theme park because you can just build everything and shoot you in the sky from the towers) and storywise (the world was more mysterious and coherent with a ruined silent land you have to rediscover). TotK feel like a bizzarre mod that retroactively ruin BotW. Totk is technically good and still a good game, but for me is not better than botw, it's just rework botw at the price of worldbuilding coherence and feeling of adventure. Im Botw exploring was an adventure, here is a pure "lol build this shit"
>Sometimes less is more
That's true but for BotW that only works if you literally only compare it to TotK.
If you compare it to the rest of the franchise it is the definition of quantity over quality. They are both very bloated repetitive games.
Both have more game mechanics than the rest of the series combined. Totk has a dozen more than botw and about a hundred more quests and points of interest too. I spent all day yesterday doing unique quest after unique quest. Not one korok, shrine or temple involved. Even though those are great too.
MM actually changed the core gameplay with the time/schedule mechanic and only took 1 year to make.
TikTok is just 150 more shrines with rejected HL2 puzzles and garbage garry's mod.
Depths are a total waste of time with just red vomit, zonaite and reskinned enemies, Sky is 5% of the map and every sky area has 1 shrine, the biggest being the tutorial.
Literal reheated slop with sprinkles on top, they were too lazy to even try making a new batch of slop.
It is the better game. TotK’s gmod+ stuff is impressive, but they literally sacrificed everything else for it. Nothing feels like a natural expansion of BotW’s mechanics or systems. BotW had a clear vision of what it wanted to be as exploration game with light survival mechanics and many ways to interact with the natural world not artificially placed constructs.
>They withheld 6 years of live-service updates for BoTW and released it as a $70 game.
You guys are almost worse than mobile/gachagays. I hate all of you for buying ToTK.
played it the past two weeks, it's pretty fun. feels like an expansion upon stuff from Wind Waker, another good one.
>Can only move items if they're metal or you spend weapon durability on it
Literally none of that is true.
He's talking about magnesis vs ultrahand. In totk can pick up almost anything. In botw it has to be metal, one of the few things link can physically pick up himself like barrels and small rocks, or you have to knock it around with stasis. This difference is really clear with breaking crates for arrows. In botw you can just toss metal ones in the air and get them for free. But wooden ones either have to be smashed by a metal object, hit with a weapon (using durability), or their contents scattered everywhere with a bomb.
>magnesis
Oh shit, I literally forgot it worked that way in BotW.
It's pretty lame that stasis was removed probably because it trivializes the one major mechanic they added. Oh you have a battery powered hover bike? I can go further riding this rock.
>because it trivializes the one major mechanic they added.
????
Stasis launching would often be more convenient than the vehicle construction.
Inferior technology
You've never seen videos of people traveling across the map by launching objects with stasis? You wouldn't need vehicles with batteries if you could just fling for free.
>high skill moves replacing low skill moves
No.
We're not talking about wind bombing. Stasis launching doesn't require any skill at all. I'm pretty sure every single person who has ever played the game has done it. It's the most immediately obvious application of it.
>I can go further riding this rock.
Thats not true, the hoverbike has infinite airtime thanks to Recall.
When you compare Recall and Ascend to their counterparts Stasis and Cryonis, I think Recall and Ascend are straight up improvements over those two abilities. Stasis has some interesting applications sure, but Recall has wacky tech in equal measure and then more.
>infinite airtime thanks to Recall.
The fans disappear after a while too, but it takes like at least 15-30 minutes real time.
I feel like the birds disappear a little too fast.
Yeah, makes it not fun. Did Nintendo really think people wouldn't make something like a hoverbike?
The gliders and balloons do disappear WAY too fricking fast. Infuriatingly so. I wish they wouldn't have done that and just let the battery be the only limit.
The battery is not the only limit though. There are a dozen different ways to extend your creations life.
>The battery is not the only limit though.
I know, I wish that it was. I wish that nothing ever disappeared arbitrarily. Gliders vanishing out from under you mid-flight is fricking stupid.
as someone doing a no teleport playthough they are still OP, you can launch from a sky island, drop a stone bird, and glide across the entire map on like 3 stone birds
I want to glide across the entire map on ONE stone bird. Honestly, I wouldn't even be mad if they just nerfed the glide distance and made them fall faster sooner so you had to keep fans powered up to get serious distance. Making them disappear is such a shitty, lazy, band-aid-tier cop-out when they could have found ways to balance it without doing that.
it would just be broken to be able to do that at the start of the game, but i would like if you could upgrade them somehow by the end of the game, maybe DLC will add it
i havent gone down every entrance yet but i think there was one that i came across, no teleport is a lot of fun though, i mainly use balloons to get out of the depths but i got stuck down there at the start of my playthrough for like 5 hours lol
No teleport sounds really fun, I'll try it on my second run now that I know there's ascend spots in the Depths
it is, makes you enjoy the places you visit more because you know it might be a while before you are back, enjoy your second playthrough!
the ascend towers are pretty rare, i got stuck down there with 1 battery early game and it was one of the funnest parts of the game for me because it was such a struggle to escape
i eventually found a yiga fort that had a hot air balloon and had to finagle it near the top of a chasm and just float up, now that i have autobuild i just have a super rocket hot airballoon build that i pull out whenever i need to get out of there
yea that might work, only problem is you could still infinitely recall your stonebird ship and get across the map very easily as well, similar to how you can with the hoverbike but better
>only problem is you could still infinitely recall your stonebird ship and get across the map very easily as well
Yeah but like you pointed out you can already do that in other ways so who cares?
i think from the devs perspective, most people dont know how to build a hoverbike out of the box, but most people would be able to put a fan and a control stick on a stone bird and boom they can fly to gerudo desert right when they start the game
i just think you should be able to upgrade its degradation rate and eventually have it never disappear
some of the chasm holes out are higher up than others, so some need you to have the rocket boost to escape. the one i first escaped from was particulary super high up, and i didnt have rockets, so i had to do some crazy recall tricks to get it near the mouth so it wouldn't disappear
once i could slap rockets on them though, and use autobuild, it wasnt an issue
I'm surprised balloons last long enough to get out. That was what I tried first to get out and, in addition to struggling to find anything to put the thing on so I could ride it up, it also burned out so fast that I just gave up and looked for somewhere to ascend.
>it would just be broken to be able to do that at the start of the game
That's why you shorten the un-powered glide distance and make them sink faster. That balances it so that you have to have a lot of battery to go really far and once the battery shuts off you start sinking quickly.
I'm interested on no teleport, is there any chasms with water under them?
How do you get out of the depths? When I started out I was trying to avoid teleporting, not as a hard rule, just as something to generally try and do since I found botw more enjoyable that way. And then I went to the depths. I even tried climbing shit to get up near the ceiling to ascend but it didn't work. I know there are some spots that are made specifically for ascending out. Do you just go across the map to one of those every time?
There are towers that you can use ascend on if you're trying to avoid teleporting.
They're giant and go all the way to the ceiling. They also have torches on them and zen rock garden stuff like below light roots.
>I know there are some spots that are made specifically for ascending out.
I'm aware. But they're super far apart. While botw was more fun to play with teleporting, the depths makes me think totk would just be tedious that way.
Bro distance in the Depths is trivial with a good vehicle and they literally throw zonai parts at you every 50 feet
without* teleporting
The depths are where I've spent the majority of my time in. Takes longer to fill out the map (I still haven't), has lots of stuff to find, and most importantly it's where you farm good materials like zonanite, bombs, muddle bud, puffshrooms, etc.
I'd just build a 4 fan hovercart and go between them, it wouldn't be tedious at all. I'd use it as an opportunity to get all my depths materials.
They should honestly patch the wings and balloons to last longer. There is no good reason for them to be so short lived when fans get to do the same thing for 10 times as long.
The worst part is that you can still make flying machines that go forever like
so all they're doing is limiting options for no reason.
>There is no good reason for them to be so short lived when fans get to do the same thing for 10 times as long.
Wings and balloons do their shit without the use of batteries. The travel durability was done to act as a limiter thanks to that ability of theirs. A balanced thing that Nintendo could have done was to tie travel durability to your battery length.
Easy. If it's using battery it lasts forever. That way bare wings and balloons using campfires still aren't infinite but you can make planes and flame emitter powered balloons that don't disappear in two minutes.
>Easy. If it's using battery it lasts forever.
Not quite as balanced as what I suggested because you can use this for the zonai hovering platforms and pretty much permananently have high ground over everything. By tying their travel durability to how much battery you've aquired this makes those sorts of structures not ridiculously outclassed by 2 fans and a steering stick.
I mean lasts forever as in doesn't despawn. Basically if the whole device is using power, so like a wing with fans and a steering stick on it, then the parts don't despawn. But if it's not, like a wing that you're just standing on or a balloon powered by a campfire, then it would act like it does currently (although still extend both of their durations).
>I mean lasts forever as in doesn't despawn.
I know what you mean.
A non despawning floating platform is busted OP because those things never use battery power to stay afloat.
Shit, just put a zonai head on this with some beam emitters and some fans and you just slowly creep above hyrule lazering everyone, only stopping (still up in the air) to recharge your batteries.
Do those things depsawn? I thought they were already a means of infinite height and air time if you were patient enough to deal with them. I thought that's why they cost 100 zoanite to conjure via autobuild.
Yeah, they despawn. Yeah, it's lame.
Well, considering I never bothered much with them despite thinking they lasted forever, I don't think it would break the game too much if they were permanent. They're so incredibly slow and their steep cost means that if you can afford to autobuild with them you could also afford a boatload of rockets, fans, etc.
>rendering 90+ percent of the game's enemies moot by way of not having any means to fight you isn't gamebreaking
Skipping combat is completely trivial anyway.
It only does that if you're willing to spend real life years traversing the map on a box that moves slower than walking or farm up so much zoanite for autobuilding them that it would have been faster and easier to just play normally.
Anon, you don't get it. At all.
>build device with fans, wheels emitters, cannons, and the heads to orient those emitters and cannons.
>steer platform to ground and swap the fans out for wheels to use as a buggy, it's now faster than just floating in air
>swap back to fans when you're going to assault monster forces/farm lynel weapons/kill taluses/ etc.
That still seems like significantly more effort than it's worth. You'd have to get/make a new one every time you entered a shrine or wanted to fast travel. And getting in and out of the depths with it would be a b***h, too.
When everything short of boss monsters already crumbles before the might of the puffshroom korok sword, that doesn't come across as especially game breaking.
>The fans disappear after a while too
This is straight up a lie, I've flown through the depths for upwards of an hour and they don't go away, only rockets, ballons and wings do
Anons it's called a joke outfit, the Gerudo outfit had a bunch of jokes in game surrounding it and the whole thing about the CeCe hat being the quest reward is a joke about CeCe being so conceited she thinks her stupid ugly hat is a good reward for your efforts
>This is straight up a lie
Dilate troony.
Must literally be an hour+ because I've dicked around for a long time on a single hover bike and this hasn't happened to me once
I want to like recall, and if stasis were retained along with it, I wouldn't have any issue with it. But I don't like that it's a total replacement. I used stasis so much more than recall. And even in situations where I use both, stasis was more fun.
When an octorok is shooting at you from far enough away that a parried projectile won't reach them before they've gone back underwater, you can use both stasis and recall to still kill them without having to use an arrow and bow durability. With stasis you froze the octorok right as it shot and then quickly parried to hit it while it was still frozen. With recall you just recall the rock back at it. You don't even have to time the recall since it freezes time while you aim it. It's so much less interesting and satisfying.
I agree, BotW was too big as it was.
zelda cycle
>Sometimes less is more
True, which is a good part of why pre-BotW Zelda is better.
If only the item throwing was in botw.
BOTW was comfier
100% agree. Neither game's moment to moment gameplay is particularly engaging, and BotW just had better atmosphere and required less linear focus, so you could just spend time soaking in the atmosphere/world more. I pretty much never spend time trying to traverse TotK's world when flight options are so easily accessible
>But anon, look at this amazing sidequest
This combined with the gerudo outfit suggests to me that there is a gay with some sway at nintendo but that there is also one or more person who disapproves. They still got their gay hat, and in fact it's even more homosexual than the gerudo outfit. But the gerudo outfit itself was removed even when almost every other outfit, including amiibo ones, was retained. And it was downgraded to a side quest that never involves the player wearing it.
You didn't beat the game
Of course it's better. The entire world was designed with the abilities in mind. The new game lets you cheese too many things because the devs didn't realize how busted new abilities would be in the old world.
>No caves
>Less memorable side quests
>No ascend, Recall, or Fuse
>No themed dungeons
I actually love BotW but I prefer TotK a few times over, basically a 8 out of 10 vs a 9 out of 10 for me, I don't think either game is perfect tho, no game is
Should have read his post he literally said he loved botw lol
Typical snoynig strategy of pretending to like the game to seem more reasonable. This should be obvious anon.
hey Chat GPT write me an essay on why Zelda doesnt need good combat
Shit you should try playing the four zelda games then, you'll love them.
I've actually forgotten 80% of breath of the wild, even before totk came out.
It was nice exploring but kind of forgettable otherwise, the ganon beast form was cool I guess.
Totk did just about everything better.
>all that rust, dirt, and cracks on the master sword
The signs were all there.
You like wieners better too, what’s your point?
I agree
Ascend is possibly the most fun mechanic in the series. Endlessly addictive.
I Agree that BotW was more soulful, both gameplay wise (the world is bigger but now feel like a small theme park because you can just build everything and shoot you in the sky from the towers) and storywise (the world was more mysterious and coherent with a ruined silent land you have to rediscover). TotK feel like a bizzarre mod that retroactively ruin BotW. Totk is technically good and still a good game, but for me is not better than botw, it's just rework botw at the price of worldbuilding coherence and feeling of adventure. Im Botw exploring was an adventure, here is a pure "lol build this shit"
moron post.
But no one cares what you think.
I don't believe you played the game. I rarely built anything.
>botw is more soulful
>t. guy with no soul
kino
>Sometimes less is more
That's true but for BotW that only works if you literally only compare it to TotK.
If you compare it to the rest of the franchise it is the definition of quantity over quality. They are both very bloated repetitive games.
Both have more game mechanics than the rest of the series combined. Totk has a dozen more than botw and about a hundred more quests and points of interest too. I spent all day yesterday doing unique quest after unique quest. Not one korok, shrine or temple involved. Even though those are great too.
Sometimes, doing the same 3 things 100 fricking times in a row with no change in difficilty means you're playing Ubisoft tier slop.
The jump from SS to BOTW was huge.
The jump from BOTW to TOTK is like a fricking 1.11 balace patch.
>2.5x is a patch
If only literally any other dev could do that.
>the jump ALTTP and OOT was huge
>the jump from OOT to MM was like a 1.11 balance patch
MM actually changed the core gameplay with the time/schedule mechanic and only took 1 year to make.
TikTok is just 150 more shrines with rejected HL2 puzzles and garbage garry's mod.
Depths are a total waste of time with just red vomit, zonaite and reskinned enemies, Sky is 5% of the map and every sky area has 1 shrine, the biggest being the tutorial.
Literal reheated slop with sprinkles on top, they were too lazy to even try making a new batch of slop.
you've posted this same webm, and same shit copy past opinion multiple times now, no one cares or agrees with you
Facts don't change, even if you get upset.
>game doesn't even have the same physics tools and people think there's no difference between totk and botw
Nu contrarionism
It is the better game. TotK’s gmod+ stuff is impressive, but they literally sacrificed everything else for it. Nothing feels like a natural expansion of BotW’s mechanics or systems. BotW had a clear vision of what it wanted to be as exploration game with light survival mechanics and many ways to interact with the natural world not artificially placed constructs.
>literally sacrificed everything else for it.
Such as?
>They withheld 6 years of live-service updates for BoTW and released it as a $70 game.
You guys are almost worse than mobile/gachagays. I hate all of you for buying ToTK.
The only thing totk has over botw are the new enemies, caves/wells, and the monster control crew sidequest. Totk should've been an expansion.